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Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Dick Morris and  Eileen McGann :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Nuts at ACORN Could Cause Obama's Fall
by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
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As Obama lengthens his lead, the Republicans are praying that the election becomes close enough for the Democrats to steal. But meanwhile, ACORN, the radical community group, is becoming an embarrassment for Obama. It is not as if its shenanigans are likely to tip the result, with the Democrats so far ahead. But as it is raided by the FBI in state after state (11 so far), it is becoming identified as the electoral equivalent of Greenpeace, extremists who will stop at nothing to get their way.

What makes ACORN particularly embarrassing for Obama is that he used to be one of them. He served as general counsel for ACORN in Illinois, channeled millions to the organization from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (whose funds he distributed) and has lately spent $800,000 of his campaign money to subsidize the group’s activities. For this emolument, ACORN has registered voters 15 times over, canvassed the graveyards for votes and prepared to commit electoral fraud on a massive scale.

With friends like this, Obama doesn’t need enemies. As their radical activities make headlines every day, Obama’s intimate involvement with these radicals becomes more and more of a political liability.

The other Obama scandals have no topical relevance. The Rev. Wright no longer spews hatred from the pulpit and has apparently been persuaded to stay away from media interviews. William Ayers is likewise making himself scarce, and the Obama/Ayers relationship, whatever it may have been, is clearly in the past.

Rezko is facing sentencing in his own corruption case, but isn’t likely to turn on the one man who may acquire the power to pardon him.

But, as Election Day approaches and early balloting proceeds in many states, ACORN’s tactics will get more and more media attention. As election officials discover ACORN frauds, the association will become more injurious to Obama, particularly when it is his own campaign that is funding many of the fraudulent activities.

At the very least, the negative publicity ACORN will attract will paint Obama as a radical with questionable judgment. At the most, it might cause voters to wonder if he is not himself involved in electoral fraud.

The recent book by Wall Street Journal editor John Fund, Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy, discusses the prevalence of voter fraud, made newly possible by lax enforcement of laws requiring identification to vote. As Fund indicates, the motor/voter laws have encouraged waves of new voters, many of them ineligible to participate. Let us remember that eight of the Sept. 11 hijackers were registered to vote!

So ACORN is the gift that will keep on giving as its activities attract attention while Election Day nears.

But are these McCain attacks on Obama going to work? Clearly they have not so far. Obama has lower negatives than McCain and his unfavorable rating has not risen despite the avalanche of attack advertising to which he has been subjected. Possibly, voters are just inured to the attacks and disregard them. But more likely they are just distracted by the financial meltdown all around them. We have never had a presidential race, since 1944, where the contest was not the most important news in the four weeks before the election. (In 1944, the war overshadowed the election, much to the frustration of the Republican candidate, Thomas E. Dewey.) The candidates seem unable to get a word in edgewise as the financial news dominates. People follow the Dow Jones more than the Gallup, Rasmussen or Zogby polls.

If the presidential race remains an afterthought, crowded out by the financial news, Obama will waltz into the White House by a comfortable margin. But if the stock market stops its gyrations for a while and no new household name/corporation or bank goes broke, the negatives against Obama will compel attention at last.

And then the race may close swiftly and dramatically.

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Dick Morris, a former political adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and President Bill Clinton, is the author of Condi vs. Hillary: The Next Great Presidential Race. To get all of Dick Morris’s and Eileen McGann’s columns for free by email, go to www.dickmorris.com
 
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What is your Source?
Al and MSARM,

I don't want to be in the position of defending Mr. Bush myself. However, I would just like to know the source for the statement "billions lost to corruption." Did it come from DailyKos or another left-wing outlet? If the claim came from a reputable source, then I would like to know that.

Ties with ACORN
For all of you libs that keep repeating that John McCain spoke at an ACORN dinner, please google it. He spoke before an asembly of 20 or so groups. A number of Acorn members just happened to be present at the time. It in no way comes close to Obama's associations. As ACORN's Lawyer, as a teacher for them, or in funneling millions to Acorn from DC ..and last but not least paying them over $800,000 to GET OUT THE VOTE for him ... are they earning their money yet? If you're going to comment on something ... get your facts straight. Don't put your lousy spin on a topic and call it fact. Thank you!

Al
With all due respect I'm not sure you're listening carefully. Most conservative media-types aren't spending a whole lot of time defending Bush and what he's done to the conservative movement. But as someone who voted for Bush twice I agree with your general premise and share your frustration.

USSA
United Socialst States of America

Bush Corruption?
Al. I think we would all appreciate knowing your source for the statement "billions lost to corruption." And if you're talking about the current financial crisis, that was caused by the Democrats (ala Frank and Dodd) attempting to fulfill their socialist agenda without trying to legally get the votes in Congress. This is no matter of conjecture, this is fact. There were, admittedly, other factors at work, but the sub-prime mortgage issue was paramount.

Carla
You do not have to show ID to vote in many states. That would be racial so the claim is.And we could not have that.

Bush and Conservative Media at fault
Bush being the worst president by throwing America and the GOP under the track is at fault. The conservative commentators with their spin, instead of putting Bush in check for growing the largest federal government, trillion dollar debt and counting, billions lost to corruption, are accomplices to this debacle. These rich commentators should give their money back for propping up the Bush administration even when things were getting worse and worse. No character and courage when Bush went against every conservative principle. What is that?!?! Pure clowning in my book.

ACORN IN THE WHITE HOUSE___SEE IT

*
http://www.roadsassy.com/2008/10/11/caught-on-tapeobama-pro mising-acorn-that-
they-will-help-shape-his-policies-in-the-white-house/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG29uP3mvUc

Obama Live and in person at the big A C O R N Rally Nov07 plotting Nov 4Th and worse; Nov5th! Something everyone should view before election day !
Obama is a Liar and a Theif; in his own Words.
And where is CNN,NBC,ABC,CBS etc,etc, busy electing him!

This will be the first time in history the media was blatantly, and without excuse in the tank for one candidate and suppressed literally volumes of information.
Don’t let the Media choose our next President. Vote Truth.

Or just vote for the Plumber. He’s got the real story.

ACORN will be KRACKED!
"As Obama lengthens his lead, the Republicans are praying that the election becomes close enough for the Democrats to steal."

Is this Correct? I don't get it?

The Republicans are going to win!

Don
Your picture is glum, however it is likely correct. Obama and his disciples will destroy a great nation if they attain power. I intend to remain defiant and I intend to survive. The people in this nation have a history of prevailing against their enemies and have been willing to die for that in which they believe. I promise you that Obama's thugs do not have the moral fortitude to prevail, actually I don't think they have any morals at all. Times will be increditly difficult, however this country and its people have experienced difficult times before. The enemy is in trouble because without taxpayer assistance they cannot afford their bottles, pacifiers, and diapers so let not your heart be troubled.

America: nice while it lasted
Obama's money-man, Tony "the fixer" Rezko, is now in jail and singing to the federal prosecutor. That may destroy Obama, if the prosecutor gets the goods before Obama fires him on January 21.

Obama would be done for if he hadn't had buddies hit Indonesia last summer to scour clean any records showing he was an Indonesian citizen, through his adoption by Lolo Soetoro in 1966.

And I'm still waiting for that Kenyan birth certificate...

Oh, well, America was nice while it lasted.

America: 7/4/1776 - 1/19/2009
Amerika: 1/20/2009 - the Revolution

Read the devastating "Obama Timeline" at:
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

"What Obama would do..." at:
http://www.colony14.net/id35.html

and "Obama's 95% tax cut lie" at:
http://www.colony14.net/id52.html

Carla
Suppose you live in a house with 5 others. Your absentee registration and voting form comes. One of your roomates knows your ssan. he/she can vote in your name and you don't know till you go to vote. Or what if someone steals your mail. If it comes at the same time as other mail, you also could have your vote mis-used. Don't say it can't happen.

Dear Carla, let me explain
It's wide-spread fraud, to register DEMOCRAT voters that way.

The FRAUD label and the CORRUPT label will stick to guess who? All Democrats; above all Obama.

This is corruption, on Obama's side. Added to a raft of other ugly stains on his (ugh) reputation.

rock the vote
if i register to vote 1000 times i can only vote once....we all know that so what's the fuss you need id anyway...............where's the beef

1.3 MILLION error rate: very small %?
MY OPINIONS ONLY
Quoting from an article re: interview with ACORN spokesman Charles Jackson:
"He said the error rate of the 1.3 million
voters registered was"a very small percentage."
You can figure the errors weren't in McCain's favor.JOHN MCCAIN WOULD NEED TO GET ABOUT 1.3 1/2 MILION VOTES JUST TO CATCH UP WITH THE ERRORS: Not all will be discovered before 4 Nov.

I don't know if McCain was aware of that statement (HIS CAMP SHOULD HAVE BEEN), so I dumbfounded that McCain did not show the OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT OF VOTER-REGISTRATION FRAUD GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
And Obama responded with a case he represented
ACORN ON!
Obama and ACORN have been tied together since
the early 90s. He said he'd work alonside ACORN; he'd ran Project Vote voter-registration
before being elected to office in Ill. Said
ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, as I
have read reported. He (unpaid) trained them.

He paid CSI..VERY VERY CLOSE TIES TO ACORN..
over $800,000 for 'advance work' when the
AVERAGE he paid for such was under $600.

VOTER-REGISTRATION FRAUD HAS BECOME AN AGGESSIVE STAGE IV CANCER I FEAR THIS ELECTION VOTING PROCESS WILL SUCCUMB TO.
So, who's in this election?
McCain vs Obama, MSM, ACORN, the highest amount of campaign contributions in HISTORY; add to that HAMAS, THE COMMUNIST PARTY, IRAN, THE PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY; all pulling for him
(and I'd expect other unnamed ones.) I cannot
believe those MULTI-millions all came from just
America/Americans.

What REALLY galls me is that Barack Hussein
Obama, aka, Barry Soetoro HAS NEVER SHOWN A VALID U.S. BIRTH CERTIFICATE! I got mine because
Carnival Cruise required it. The POTUS REQUIRES
LESS? I THINK NOT. I COULD NEVER VOTE FOR
SOMEONE WHO I DON'T KNOW FOR POSTIVE FACT IS
ELIGIBLE (CITIZENSHIP) FOR THE POTUS.

Poor Dan is in deep denial


Sorry, Dan--

The damage is done. In case you don't recall in 2006;

When our candidate spoke -- there were no FBI agents busting that joint. There were few if any videos of fraud perps showing up on TV in the evenings. You're posting a non-sequitur, Pal.

McCain palling with ACORN
McCain has too short a memory.
There he was in 2006 as KEYNOTE speaker at ACORN rally singing their praises! Palling around with them!
Just google it up, and you can see the tape.

Sorry McCain fans. Your candidate is a hypocrite.

ACORN- the party nut platter
I have paid some attention to ACORN for the past three presidential elections and am gratified to see them-FINALLY- getting the attention they deserve. ACORN operatives vandalized the cars of republicans outside the local office of the Republican party in the town where I lived during the last election- I KNOW what these people are. Now, so does everyone else.

The only way ACORN brings Obama down is highlighting the "empty suit's" poor judgement in the company he keeps.

john in IL


Hey, pardner:

I'm glad McCain prased ACORN long ago; way before they tried to rig a presidential election. That's what this is all about: Corruption in the Democrat Party.

Lincoln was right: You cannot fool all of the people all of the time!

McCain Has Praised ACORN !!

Speaking of McCain's supposed displeasure for ACORN, check out his congratulatory speech at an ACORN 2006 rally at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9wy2MI1NI

Most audience members are wearing ACORN T-shirts.

McCain must think that most Americans are stupid, but those are just the Republicans.

Any organization, like ACORN, that pays workers to register thousands of voters is bound to have some fraudulent names. That doesn't mean that it is a Democratic or Republican con game. It's just reality.

Obama's birth certificate
Phillip Berg has filed a lawsuit in August accusing B. Hussein O. of a forged Hawaiian birth certificate, claiming that B. Hussein was actually born in Kenya. If so, that would make BHO constitutionally inelgibile to be President. I understand Democrats are trying to squash the lawsuit. Why? If Obama's birth certificate is not a forgery, why not produce it for examination? I understand that when his mother, pregnant attempted to board an airplane, the airline refused to let her travel because she was close to term. She did travel to Hawaii after B. Hussein was born. WHY DON'T WE HEAR ABOUT THIS IN THE NEWS?

Hunter in CA-- how droll!


Just a snip from your booby-prize winning post here:

"Thanks, McCain for tonight defusing both the Acorn and Ayers issues--"

Uh, ugh, Hunter. You have it @ss-backward. Those issues were brought up before an audience of possibly 60 million who viewed the debate. HARDLY "defusing," rather LIGHTING a fuse; it can't be buried in page 40B of your local fishwraps by the leftist media. BTW;

I noted that every time McCain scored a direct hit at Obambi, Bob Sheeter, the commie-lib moderator interrupted with;

"OK, Let's move to a new subject,"

--A weasel running interference for Obama right in the faces of all those millions watching! He did it a number of times, just as McCain was sticking it to your embarrassed Messiah.

But anyway; ACORN is exposed, and Ayers is now publicly denounced, both as an America-hating terrorist bombardier, and as Obama's mentor and homeboy.

The people are aware now. Just in time for the Obama gang to race for the tall grass. McCain will win the election; sit on that one!





Under the Table Socialism
I've been reading a lot of posts here blaming the Republicans and George Bush for the financial crisis with no proof. The connection here eludes me and many other people who vehemently disagree with this view; including those at the Wall Street Journal (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122411797796038903.html).

Neither the Repubicans nor the "greedy" bankers were the cause of our current crisis. The causes lie directly at the feet of Sen. Chris Dodd and the Democrats, and Sen. Obama was an exceedingly willing participant. At peril to our entire economy, they have achieved their dream by "under the table" socialism.

Another Smoke Screen
Listening to Obama and his supporters justify registration fraud as non-consequential (because fraudulent registrations will not result in fraudulent votes) is in fact a smoke screen. By focusing on the "Mickey Mouse" examples, they want us to look away from the possibility that identity theft votes and multiple-voting could occur as a result of fraudulent registrations. Are we willing to allow our votes to be nullified this way?

OHIO--VOTER FRAUD
200,000--thats right--200,000 new voter registrations are being 'hidden' from local election boards by the democratic attorney general, jennifer bruener so they can't be verified as legitamite or fraudulent. jennifer breuner was 'ordered' by a Federal Judge that she had until this Friday to verify these registrations--she has appealed this order. This democrat politician thinks she's above the law and that voter fraud benefiting the democrat party, her party, justifies the illegal practice of voter fraud by b.H.obamas ACORN accomplices. The democratic government in Ohio is an illustration of what the total democratic control of our American Government will be if b.H.obama is elected. No different from the election process in the countries of our enemies.

kellerwwwww


You seem like an intelligent fellow.

Explain how you involved the Catholic Church in that diatribe, if you can.

VOTER ID

.....JEFF ...

.....The reason why we do not have voter ID is because the Democrats do not want it and fight it every step of the way ...their opposition to voter ID is in their platform .....COLOSSUS

MCCAIN IS LIKE A ONE PUNCH FIGHTER

.....The old one-two is a left jab followed by a right cross ...the right cross is the knock out punch ...McCain has the left jab but he doesn't deliver the right cross ...

.....McCain had a big fat softball sitting on a tee and he didn't swing at it ...sure he mentioned Acorn but he didn't point out that they are under investigation in 14 States for voter fraud and that Obama gave them 800K out of his campaign money to get out the vote ...

.....He didn't mention how he worked with Acorn agitators to pressure banks into making unsound loans .....Obama is as slippery as a snake but McCain makes it too easy for him .....COLOSSUS

Protest the Media Event Oct 21
It is time we demand the truth from the MSM!

Join our "Protest the Media" Event on Oct. 21.

Check it out: http://www.protestthemedia.com

Help by spreading the word.

Big Government
Almost every problem we face in this country today can be attributed to big government. Big government now runs amok.

So, while the choices are not so good, you can either pick the socialist Obama, who is pledging even bigger government, or McCain who has fought to curb government growth.

We MUST stop the growth of government. Government is killing our economy and drastically eroding our rights and liberties. Stop it now, or we face depression and possibly another American revolution.

Who Registered The 8 Terrorists?
Has the U.S. Senate Ethics Committee investigated if ACORN was involved with the 8 terrorists from the Middle East who bombed the twin towers on 911 and killed 3,000 Americans? And, have they starte an investigation to find out how the members learned how to register fraudulent votes since Obama was their admitted teacher?

Citizens Demand Investigations
It is the duty of every American citizen to demand that the U.S. Senate Ethics Committee and Federal Election Commission and law enforcement investgiate the activities of Barack obama who wants the steering wheel so he can step on the gas without a map into a new direction which will CHANGE the way America "distributes the wealth" which could be a one way ticket to the world of socialism, but what he didn't say is that he's been distributing the wealth to himself and his shady anti-American friends. Support Judicial Watch and demand that the Ethics Committee follow through on their complaint that alleges Obama obtained a "special treatment" loan through Northern Trust that saved him $125,000 in interest, although the American homeowners couldn't afford to buy homes and had to cough up the entire amount by allegedly abusing his position as U.S. Senator, and he stated in the Final Debate that he cares about homeowners. He does care about home ownership, his own!

Dick and Eillen
I see your predictions but would like to add a word of optimism, a glass half full perspective about America. The American people see something that could very well be to radical even for ther liberal views and vote McCain. Its a neck and neck race and I'm surprise with your expertise you dont see that. God forbid your wright.
Dr. John Ebaugh

ACORN & OBAMA by Jeff Schrembs
For every one of ACORNS "successful" voter FRAUD, that actuallys gets cast and I predict that there will be MILLIONS this year, it takes away TWO VOTES from AMERICAN CITIZENS (who voted differently).
How so, you ask?
Let's examine shall we?
Let's say that there are (2) two candidates named A and B. ACORN wants B to win so they do a false registration (first step in the massive FRAUD) and then have the false applicant actually vote for B.
Then an AMERICAN CITIZEN actually wants A to win so they vote, LEGALLY, for A as is their RIGHT!
However since B got (1) one illegal vote from ACORN it actually "voided" the American Citizen's vote for A. Thus it will take ANOTHER American Citizen, voting for A, to have the same "net effect" of candidate A having "one vote more than candidate B.
ACORN, like many "win by any means necessary" EXTREMISTS, know that this "math" (sadly)...works to their advantage.
Furthermore it is VERY RARE for their to be votes cast and afterward there to be extensive "checks and balances". I equate this to the "movie theater" syndrome of "once your ticket is torn (i.e. ballot cast) no one questions why you are there".
My response is that WHY is it not MANDATORY in all 50 states for there to be CONFIRMATION of United States Citizenship? WHY?
Only Arizona requires this!
If we can go around the World, and within $50 from an ATM and it be "recorded" instantly, you mean to tell me that we can't (within a 4 year election cycle) come up with a VERIFICATION SYSTEM NATIONWIDE?
COME ON!
First we can't protect our own Borders and now our Votes are ELIMINATED/MARGINALIZED by ILLEGALS, FRAUD, etc.?
How do you swallow an Elephant? One bite at a time.
How do you lose this great Country? One right at a time.
Nuff said.
NOSTRADAMUSLIVES by Jeffrey Schrembs

The breakdown of society....
When you have a phrase like “the breakdown of society” in our deeply divided country…

It is something the conservatives grieve and do everything in their power to oppose…

It is something the Democrats celebrate and high five each other over…

Since Woodstock Democrats have been basically a bunch of out of control adolescents who never grow up with cans of spray paint running around vandalizing everything in the country…

I can’t prove any of this really happened but everyone who lived thorough it saw it happen…
ACORN vandalizes our election process with spray paint because its fun…

Traditional family spray painted…
Local police authority and criminal justice spray painted…
Honoring military success spray painted…
Church authority and church history spray painted…
Ten Commandments spray painted…
US history with patriotism spray painted…
Wanting the US to be the greatest country spray painted…
The English language spray painted…
The arts spray painted…
Popular music spray painted…
Hollywood spray painted…
Stand up comedy spray painted…
Sex spray painted…
Boys wearing different clothes than girls spray painted…
Education spray painted…
Network news and newspapers spray painted…
Bill Clinton spray painted the Supreme Court by appointing Ruth Ginsburg…
The every law spray painted by ACLU lawlessness…
Logging spray painted…
Mining spray painted…
Manufacturing industries spray painted…
Oil drilling and refineries spray painted…
Nuclear power spray painted…
Abiding by a contract spray painted…
Mortgages spray painted…
Wall street and free markets spray painted…
Y’all can finish this I’m getting bored…

BUT! The Obama Ayers Connection...
IS STILL RELEVANT! Because Obama still shares his radical views and his radical agenda, even if he's thrown Ayers himself under the campaign bus with Wright and Rezco.

What's REALLY DANGEROUS about Obama's relationship with Ayers is not that Ayer's was a violent terrorist in the 60's and 70's, and they were later associates, but that they share the same Socialist/anti-capitalist worldview and the same anti-American agenda.

Obama's other associations with ACORN, WRIGHT, Khalidi, Odinga, al-Mansour and others like them all underscore that point.

toddy.townhall.com
I posted the Social Policy Magazine Article with some commentary, the one by Toni Foulkes. He states that Obama has worked with ACORN since 1992. But read it yourself, I posted a link to the original article as well.

voter registration...radical idea?
As McCain so eloquently put it in the debate tonight when defending the sickos screaming TERRORIST and KILL HIM about Obama, and McPalin did nothing to quell such dangerous rhetoric...you get a bunch of people involved there's bound to be some fringe elements. Just as in ACORN - a few bad apples to not a conspiracy make.

Thanks, McCain for tonight defusing both the Acorn and Ayers issues you've been trying (to no effect) to use against Obama. Time's running out, but maybe you can come up with one last, erratic, embarassing way to make your poll numbers drop even faster. Brilliant!

a little bit of insurance....
Acorn is Obama's insurance policy. Obama has never won an election fair-and-square. He won his state senate seat by disqualifying the opponent, he won his U.S. seat by having his media surrogates force open the 'closed' child custody files of his opponent (7 of 9's husband), and he won the Dem primary by disqualifying Michigan and Florida votes.....now how can he possibly win the big kahuna- A presidential election? Well, he can't without a little help from his squirrely friends.....

ACORN = GESTAPO
ACORN is to Obama as Gestapo was to Hitler. It's a marxist thug group, like BAMN or LaRacist/LaRAza for the Mexicans. I'm fascinated by how the Mexican gangs are flying under the radar so well, but they're another huge source of voter fraud that is going un-investigated.

I think it's time for european-americans to face the facts - this election is a sham, voting is heartbreakingly stupid when your vote has already been stolen by Senor Micky Mouse and his Democrat friends.

The only way to clean up the corruption is to establish a European -American Homeland on the North American Continent. Our illegitimate anti-european racist government is bogus , our political class is a pack of traitors. Let's repudiate the national debt and start fresh, restore the Constitution, get out from under the boot-heels of liberal fascist judges.

THREE STRIKES YOU'RE OUT!!
OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 Betcha, Dogonit!!!

McCain tried to hug Michele Obama after the debate. I guess he was confused, after all his eratic behavior.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2008 + DEMOCRATIC SENATE = IT'S OVER FOR GOP





Acorn: What I'd like to ask Obama
Obama made a comment that we need to take a scalpel to government programs that do not work. Since Acorn receives money from the government and they are under investigation in what..at least 15 states for voter fraud, The questions I would like to ask Obama. So Senator is this one of the programs that you consider does not work? I certainly consider it a failure. Since he donated 800,000 to Acorn I'm guessing he must think that Fraud is good.

Obama Wins 3rd Debate
Hey Obama wins 3 debate...

Dole II says Wash Up Ayers of no importance.. so why did he spend so much saliva and money on those commercials.

It is the economy.. dummy!

Wrong again Morris
You said Hillary would be our next President. The single mom vote would propell her to the White House. You were wrong then, and you are wrong now. Democrats who are criminals or assoicate with criminals become even more popular with their constituents. They love OJ, Maron Barry, William Jefferson, Edwin Edwards, Michael Vick, on and on. When a celebrity or politician is in deep with the law, Democrat voters feel very comfortable with them. Obama's Acorn connection will gain him votes.

William
Don't put words into my mouth. Slavery is, by its very nature wrong. But do you realize that there were countries in Europe who had white slaves? So ya, it happened, it was not a good thing, but it no longer exists in the U.S.

Segregation was a natural outgrowth from slavery and was, in my view, a continuing degradation for blacks. But let me remind you that for some of the groups immigrating to the US in the early 1900's, they too suffered humiliation. For example, Italian children of dark color were thought to be stupid. Fortunately for those children, their parents were able to forge ahead and educate them. The same was not true for blacks during segregation.

Ok, so segregation was disassemble for the most part but nothing really changed for black children. And what really influenced this bad outcome for these kids were the fatherless families that began to grow like a cancerous tumor.

And that hasn't changed. As a matter of fact the percentage of fatherless black families has increased leaving the burden of raising children and working or going on welfare.

It is quite a conundrum as there is no concrete way to make a man want to invest in his family,his children. But as long as this continues, the future for so many of these kids is bleak.

So now, there are my thoughts. I won't change one word of what I wrote before because I believe that there are single parent families who do have children who are respectful and hard working. Some of the single Mom's that I know work full time jobs. For one, her and her two boys are a team and I can see and listen to them to know that they 'll be fine.

Bill Cosby's words were potent. Get an education and get a job. And basically, stop asking for someone to hand that to you.

Why ACORN?
Has anyone figured out why ACORN is so necessary that it receives a stipend from our tax dollars? It's actually insane! Even now, after ACORN's government allocation was supposedly cut out of the "Bail-Out " package, hidden in it is a benefit for ACORN in every new mortgage issued that amounts to about $420. of taxpayor money.
Why? Why? Didn't people wanting to participate in the voting process register on their own volition before ACORN came on the scene? Look what's happening to the voting process because of ACORN and bogus registrations.

RE: William-NJ
Warren Buffet knows HOW to make money. That doesn't mean he can run a government. And, if he could, who'd need to elect a President? I suppose you do know that the Congress institutes the bills that spend money, or cuts/modifies programs. The President is the last person to sign a bill that's come through Congressional due diligence. With enough votes, Congress can override a President. Therefore, a President is not the ultimate answer in lots of cases. So, don't hang your hat on Buffet. Obama's a name dropper, anyway.
In the end,Buffet's very rich because Buffet has always been for Buffet.

"I HAD A DREAM" ______OBAMAS "CHANGE"
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Barack Obama is a fraud and a liar.
_Schooled and Educated politically in the most corrupt City State of this Nation, who’s second Governor___In- A -Row, RODNEY BLAGOJEVICH, is on his way to Jail.
Barack Obama’s Friend and supporter Gov. Rod Blagojevich, is now being Filleted by Barack Obama’s other long time Friend, personal political fundraiser and backdoor real estate agent, Shylock TONY REZKO, who was just sentenced to 26 years in the big house for being an enemy of the state is making sure of that! 26 years is a longtime, and you know sometimes friends, especially these kind, just don’t matter. And the FBI sees it the same way. Bye Bye Rod its not been nice Knowing YOU!

Does anyone see a pattern here, or is it just us Chicagoans. Coming from a city where every good and service sold has a 20-Percent Corruption Fee attached, and has to deal with South Side politicians, Obamas hood,(although northside east or west,it makes no difference), who would rather install their next of kin to vacated posts, then have free and fair elections.

Its hard to see HOW the rest of the country believes this kind of Political Sewage means “CHANGE”___from the political Shylocks in Washington who Killed this Economy.
Do you think the “ALL BARACK ALL THE TIME, NO QUESTIONS News Media has something to do with it. Nah!

Barack Obama, A C O R N and his completely Corrupt Friends do not = “CHANGE” !

GET IT !______Not Equal “CHANGE”

REPEAL “CHANGE” 08

William in NJ
You go cry, schmuck. I got my investments out of this rathole and protected from the U.S. Government. You go right ahead and elect your little Affirmative Action candidate and enjoy the party. Hope your 401K has something left in it, cuz your wallet sure as hell won't after the Dems get finished taking everything you've got to pay off one of their "victims." I'll get you haven't paid your fair share yet! Don't worry, the Dems will make sure you pay and pay and pay and then inflate the rest out of existence. Enjoy.

william
slavery ended over 140 years ago. Johnson's great society put an end to segregation 45 years ago.

So exactly when are blacks going to climb off their cross of being a victim 24/7/365 and take charge of their lives.

For those who see themselves as victims will always remain victims.

But johnson's great society pummped $44 trillion in entitlements to offset the effects of segregation and poverty . Why shouldn't america expect blacks to take charge of their own lives

Instead blacks have taken up residence on the dims plantation of entitlement and have come to bbelieve they are second class citizens and will always be failures as their dim masters don't want them to ever leave their protection.

But the dims have not only enabled failure but have taught blacks to hate america. But with a myriad of social problems it seems blacks are more than content to live off dim handouts and keep for for the party of failure rather than take charge of their own lives.

Perhaps you can explain why every ethnic group in america including illegals can finds success in the land of opportunity but blacks remain abject failures

Ah hell,
Just give it to Obambi. Give him his super majority in congress too. Turn over the whole government to the bastards in the Democrat Party. Let's watch President Barry stand there mouthing his empty platitudes and his pie in the sky rhetoric while all around him America goes into hyperinflation. Let's let the schmucks in Congress get the blame for the most painful and devastating economic contraction in American history. All Obama's idiotic promises will die on the vine; his ridiculous "hope and change" nonsense become so much manure. The Democrat Party deserves to run this nation right now cuz there's nothing they can do to prevent us grinding down into the dust for a while. This is going to be hard, painful and awful and let's let them have all the credit for it since they want it so bad.

Here, little Demmmies, come get your just desserts. RULE America now, you bastards.

William Reponse to your list (edited)
Do blacks have the right to be angry? That depends on what you're talking about. For example...so many blacks were angry about Katrina. As Bill Cosby said: "You don't want to be like them? So finish your education and get a job." Ditto from me.

And Mr.Wright said God Dam* America to Obama for 20...twenty...years. I'd say that was quite a goodly amount of time for conditioning, don't you?

Some day, blacks, just like the Italians, Polish, Irish, and so forth before them, are going to figure out that Bill Cosby had it right.

ACORN IN THE WHITE HOUSE___SEE IT
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http://www.roadsassy.com/2008/10/11/caught-on-tapeobama-pro mising-acorn-that-
they-will-help-shape-his-policies-in-the-white-house/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG29uP3mvUc

Obama and A C O R N in person ploting Nov 4Th and worse; Nov5th! Something everyone should view before election day !
Obama is a Liar and a Theif; in his own Words.
And where is CNN,NBC,ABC,CBS etc,etc, busy electing him!

This will be the first time in history the media was blatantly and without excuse in the tank for one candidate and suppressed literally volumes of information.
Don’t let the Media choose our next President. Vote Truth.

Or just vote for the Plumber. He’s got the real story.

John McCain Praises ACORN

Did you see the video of John McCain speaking at the ACORN sponsored rally in 2006, where he commends the organization's leadership?

McCain is such a L-O-S-E-R. He brings up Obama's ties to ACORN, Bill Ayers, etc., just to get Americans attention away from the real and tragic issues like the economy, our security, etc.

See the MSNBC-TV story with McCain speaking at the ACORN rally where he takes the podium about 3:30 into the piece. You can fast-forward the video.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#27188343

John McCain: unfit to lead!

Community Organizer = William Ayers
The only "experience" Obama claimed to have, which he has told us repeatedly, is that of Community Organizer. That gives McCain a wide opening to ask exactly what his connection with William Ayers was during his "community organizing" days. It's not a last-minute desperate ploy. It is legitimate and if the mainstream media hadn't been busy campaigning for Obama they would have dug into his socialist past a long time ago and exposed it for all Americans to see and judge for themselves.

Left Dangle Pt 2
I agree you guys should have won it this year. The GOP messed up bad. We had a communication-challenged Pres and a republican Congress spending money and acting like Dems. But could you jagoffs run a normal American-loving liberal (assuming there is such a thing – which I don’t)? No. You have to run a socialist, dirty-pooling, half-breed, race card playing Chicago scumbag. He won’t win LA. Hillary, as much as I can’t stand her, would have won in a landslide but this guy – no way. The God and gun clinging crowd will be out in force Nov 4th. And it won’t be because we are all racists – it’ll be because he suks.

You being a lib and all I am not the least surprised that you would say a win is a win because you guys will do anything to win – even cheat. You’ve been trying since at least JFK in 1960.

And finally you’re statement about my unmitigated gall is typical of libtards. You think you’re smarter than me, that your better than me, and that your opinions are more informed and more important than mine. News Flash: They’re not!!!

eastlake joe
Believe me,I know Miz Hillary like a book. I have followed closely the Clinton's crime spree for almost twenty years.

If she did anything to help stop Obama,it would be for herself,not for country. Still,if Obama went down,she wouldn't have to wait four or eight years. If he was judged ineligible,she could step in now.


Left dangle Pt 1
No need to scream LD, remember your blood pressure. I’ve got a tip for you libdrools: your yelling doesn’t make me hear you any better. You’re still wrong about that. Your guy won’t win and no amount of screaming will change that.

Thank you for that little lesson on the Electoral College Leftie. Like most libs you probably thought you had to educate me – you moron.

Your contention that this entire nation and everything wrong with it was screwed up in 6 years is hysterical. You always manage to illustrate your lack of a grasp on reality when you post. Never mind that a) POTUS doesn’t control most things – it is Congress that does, and you ignore b) the fact that Dims have controlled the Legislative branch over 80% of the time over the last 60 years and effed everything up since at least the Great Society, instead you believe that GOPers messed up everything in 6 years? That is laughable and clearly demonstrates your inability to think critically.

You see cons will admit that our guys screwed up – will you admit to Dim malfeasance? Answer: NO! The GOP did not do this alone. You guys cannot see what is clearly right in front of your face. How else can you explain your statement that GOP controlled SCOTUS (not ussc bonehead)? That is a joke. None of these putz’s in DC give a crap about me and you. It’s too bad your knowledge of history doesn’t go back past 2000. You would already know that everything the messiah believes in has been tried and has failed. One of these days we’re all gonna quit working a go on the dole – just like you. What’s the point of working hard if the fruits are just gonna be sent to deadbeats like you?

WFalicoff
Socialized medicine, social welfare, trying to subvert the registration process, Little or no concern for human life except where it advances his cause. That could describe any socialist government, sadly it describes O'blameless.

Left Dangle Pt.1
No need to scream LD, remember your blood pressure. I’ve got a tip for you libdrools: your yelling doesn’t make me hear you any better. You’re still wrong about that. Your guy won’t win and no amount of screaming will change that.

Thank you for that little lesson on the Electoral College Leftie. Like most libs you probably thought you had to educate me – you moron.

Your contention that this entire nation and everything wrong with it was screwed up in 6 years is hysterical. You always manage to illustrate your lack of a grasp on reality when you post. Never mind that a) POTUS doesn’t control most things – it is Congress that does, and you ignore b) the fact that Dims have controlled the Legislative branch over 80% of the time over the last 60 years and effed everything up since at least the Great Society, instead you believe that GOPers messed up everything in 6 years? That is laughable and clearly demonstrates your inability to think critically.

You see cons will admit that our guys screwed up – will you admit to Dim malfeasance? Answer: NO! The GOP did not do this alone. You guys cannot see what is clearly right in front of your face. How else can you explain your statement that GOP controlled SCOTUS (not ussc bonehead)? That is a joke. None of these putz’s in DC give a crap about me and you. It’s too bad your knowledge of history doesn’t go back past 2000. You would already know that everything the messiah believes in has been tried and has failed. One of these days we’re all gonna quit working a go on the dole – just like you. What’s the point of working hard if the fruits are just gonna be sent to deadbeats like you?

eastlake joe and rowly
Assuming Obama is elected on November 4, unless he dies sometime between November 5 of this year and January 20, 2017, I don't see how Hillary Clinton ever becomes president. Unless both Obama AND Biden are greased between November 5 and Inauguration Day of next year, as long as ONE still lives even if the other one doesn't make it to be sworn in, the survivor isn't ABOUT to nominate Hillary Clinton to fill the vacant vice-presidency for the first Obama term; he would be the world's biggest fool to do so, and I think even Biden and Obama have JUST ENOUGH functioning brain cells that this won't happen.

If Obama serves two terms, even though Biden all but certainly wouldn't try to succeed him in 2016, I think it's EXTREMELY unlikely Hillary would try by then, given that she'd be almost 70 - and the Clinton White House years would be so long past by then that she'd be almost as much ancient history as the Roman Empire. And as Lolo1 said to me when I myself suggested this possibility several weeks ago, women do not handle OLD well.

And in 2012? If Obama's term is such an acknowledged disaster even in the minds of DEMOCRATS that Obama either would decide not to seek re-nomination or else would be defeated for it, it STILL doesn't help Hillary, as I can't imagine after four years of such an acknowledgedly bad presidency that the American people in 2012 would want to replace one Democrat with another. Also, Hillary as a Senator would all but certainly have signed off by her Senate votes on the very Obama policies that would have produced the disaster, so if Obama fails, he all but certainly takes her WITH him.

Ret. Geek
Anyone who remembers Kruchev in the 60s will not or should not be surprised about any of this. He said that the USSR did not have to defeat us on the battle field. They would defeat us from within. Might have been the 60s but here it comes if we don't stop it!

WFalicoff do you agree with Democrats

Liberal Democrats will NOT be silenced

Liberal Democrats are saying Barack Obama committed voter fraud.

"As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. "We the people" expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected. However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this has not been the case.

We believe that the The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn't happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts.

We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for "dinners," etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party."



http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

Bobbit II
Insulting language does nothing to convince the other party of your views. This much I assume we can all agree on.

I would need to go back and read William's comments before I could make a cogent statement as to his positions and etiquette.

With regard to the Acorn article all I am asking you to do is to read the "other side" of the story to get some perspective. What is mentioned in this article is that ACORN is obligated to report all the applications they receive, even the ones from Donald Duck, etc. The information that is being chided in the media came from ACORN. They were not trying to hide anything. They must send even the "bogus" applications to the authorities.

Unlike you I do not consider Obama to be a socialist. Also I think this political word is poorly used and too often misused to describe politicians, governments and ideologies. I do not know who is "ready day one" to be President of the United States. It appears to me that McCain does not have the skill set (he is emotionally unstable) needed to be President. It remains to be seen if Obama can meet the requirements of this most difficult job. Bush was clearly not up for this job and neither was the members of the cabinet he chose to support him.

Tom Hayden explains hatred for Gov Palin

Obama associate and supporter, Tom Hayden explains why the Barack Obama camp, Marxists, Socialists and othe nefarious Obama supporters, are attacking Sarah Palin.
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By Tom Hayden
Progressives for Obama

"September 13, 2008 - A principle reason for Progressives For Obama is so that we can say things that the Obama campaign cannot or will not say.

This is one of those times.

Sarah Palin is a mortal threat to the possibility of Obama winning. The reason is simple: if she can add a couple of points to McCain from defecting white women and the newly-energized right wing religious base without losing more independent votes, McCain pulls ahead in some key states."

Who is Tom Hayden?
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The Former SDS president Tom Hayden.

Michael Klonsky (former blogger on the Barack Obama official website) remembers Hayden plotting to spread nails on a highway; another SDS leader recalls Hayden encouraging activists to firebomb police cars.

Tom Hayden's former wife:
"I would think that if you understood what Communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees, that we would someday become communists."
Jane Fonda


Obama's Racist Mentor
Jeremiah Wright - Carefully Chosen Mentor

Jeremiah Wright was carefully chosen by Barack Obama to 'Mentor' him and be his spiritual guide.

Mentor Wright baptized Barack Obama, baptized the Obama children and performed the marriage ceremony betwee Barack and Michelle.

On December 4, 2007, Wright was named as a member of the Barack Obama campaign's newly created African American Religious Leadership Committee.

Who is Jeremiah Wright?
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1) Considers the U.S. to be a nation rife with racism and disrimination.
"Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!... We [Americans] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God."

2) Blames American racism for provoking the 9/11 attacks.
"In the 21st century, says Wright, "white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns."

3) Embraces black separatism theology and socialism.
Prior to the controversy sparked (in early 2008) by Wright's racially charged statements and by Wright's reference to Cone's influence on his thinking, the website of Wright's church identified Cone's writings as required reading for parishioners who wished to more thoroughly understand the church's theology and mission.

Mentor Wright became famous for 'God Damn America'.

ACORN IN THE WHITE HOUSE___SEE IT
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http://www.roadsassy.com/2008/10/11/caught-on-tapeobama-pro mising-acorn-that-
they-will-help-shape-his-policies-in-the-white-house/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG29uP3mvUc

Obama and A C O R N in person ploting Nov 4Th and worse; Nov5th! Something everyone should view before election day !
Obama is a Liar and a Theif; in his own Words.
And where is CNN,NBC,ABC,CBS etc,etc, busy electing him!

This will be the first time in history the media was blatantly and without excuse in the tank for one candidate and suppressed literally volumes of information.
Don’t let the Media choose our next President. Vote Truth.

Or just vote for the Plumber. He’s got the real story.

Obama's Communist Mentor

Frank Marshall Davis - Barrack Obama Mentor

When Barack Obama was about 10 years old his maternal grandfather thought that Obama needed a black man as a role model for his grandson - he chose Frank Marshall Davis.

1) Communist writer and poet (1905-1987)

2) Dedicated supporter of the Soviet Union and enemy of America.

Frank Marshall Davis (1905-1987) was a black poet and writer (he wrote for the Honolulu Record, a Communist newspaper), and a known member of the Soviet-controlled Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

Davis was identified unequivocally as a CPUSA member in a 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities to the Legislature of the Territory of Hawaii (CSALTH), which, along with HUAC, also charged that Davis was affiliated with a number of communist-front organizations.

Davis penned many poems during his lifetime. One of them, titled "To the Red Army," hailed the Soviet revolution and condemned the "rich industrialists" in Washington DC and London who allegedly wanted Hitler and the Nazis to "wipe Communism from the globe."

Davis also wrote poems deriding traditional Christianity. In some of these compositions, Davis called Christ "a Dixie Ni**er" who was nothing more than "another New White Hope"; he derided Christians as hypocrites "who buy righteousness like groceries"; and he spoke of Africans being killed with a "Christian gun" by missionaries following "the religion of Sweet Jesus," rather than by a spear.


Obama Appreciates ACORN

Project Vote is the voter-mobilization arm of ACORN. Its professed purpose is to carry out "non-partisan" voter registration drives; to counsel voters on their rights; and to litigate on behalf of voting rights -- focusing on the rights of the poor and the "disenfranchised."

In the 2004 and 2006 election cycles, Project Vote and ACORN ran nationwide voter mobilization drives that were marred by allegations of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams.

Their canvassers were caught or accused of filing registrations in duplicate, filing them for deceased or imaginary people or, in some cases, destroying large numbers of Republican registrations.

From April to November of 1992, Obama served as the Director of “Illinois Project VOTE,” which registered approximately 150,000 mostly poor, mostly Democratic voters in Chicago’s Cook County before that year’s presidential election.

"I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work." — Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, November 2007.


Obama and Alice Palmer

During the Cold War, Palmer supported the Soviet Union and spoke against the United States.

In the 1980s she served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group (and which was an affiliate of the World Peace Council, an international Soviet front).

In the mid-1990s, Palmer attended a number of political meetings at the Chicago-area home of her friends and ideological allies, former Weatherman terrorists Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn.

At those gatherings, Palmer developed a friendly relationship with another attendee, a young aspiring politician named Barack Obama.

As Palmer prepared to leave the state senate and run for the US Congress, she hand-picked Barack Obama as the person she most wanted to fill her newly vacated senate seat.

Toward that end, she introduced Obama to party elders and donors as her preferred successor, and helped him gather the signatures required for getting his name placed on the ballot.

Alice Palmer was defeated in the Congressional race and asked Barack Obama to withdraw from the race for her former seat.

Obama refused to withdraw so she ran against him and gathered the necessary signatures on her petition.

Obama promptly challenged the legitimacy of those signatures and charged Palmer with fraud.

A subsequent investigation found that a number of the names on Palmer’s signature list were invalid, thus she was knocked off the ballot.

“I liked Alice Palmer a lot, I thought she was a good public servant." Barack Obama
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Barack Obama will discard anyone when he is finished using them. I wonder how he would have treated her if he didn't like her?

Obama and Michael Klonsky

There is an old Spanish saying.
“Tell me who you walk with, and I will tell you WHO YOU ARE!”

"I chose my friends carefully." Barack Obama, Dreams of My Father

Did Barack Obama chose the choose the bloggers on his Campaign Website with as carefully?

Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist, a leader of the New Communist Movement.

Michael Klonsky, whose disgust for mainstream politics led him to launch a new, Maoist Communist Party in the 1970s, today supports Barack Obama so enthusiastically that until recently he was blogging on the Illinois senator’s Official campaign website.

“My own support for Obama is not a reflection of a radically changed attitude toward the Democratic Party, rather, it’s a recognition that the Obama campaign has become a rallying point for young activists and offers hope for rebuilding the civil rights and antiwar coalitions that have potential to become a real critical force in society.” Michael Klonsky.

Michael Klonsky is the former leader of SDS - Students for a Democratic Society.

Obama and Tim Wheeler

Tim Wheeler is a National Board member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and has been a key figure in the party's Baltimore chapter since the early 1970s. From 1991 to 2003 he was editor of the CPUSA newspaper People's Weekly World, and he currently serves as the publication's national political correspondent.

In 2008 Wheeler became a prominent figure in Barack Obama’s presidential campaign.

He helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for the candidate, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the Obama campaign website.

Rowly
Have you ever looked to see what hitlery's thesis in college was on? This little move of O'blameless is right up her ole' alley!! She might exact some revenge on him to some small scale but mark my words, as sure as she has said she won't run again, as soon as O'blameless's term or terms are up,(if he wins) she will be there to pick up the reins and continue the socialist rule.

ACORN IN THE WHITE HOUSE___SEE IT
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http://www.roadsassy.com/2008/10/11/caught-on-tapeobama-pro mising-acorn-that-
they-will-help-shape-his-policies-in-the-white-house/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG29uP3mvUc

Obama and A C O R N in person plotting Nov 4Th and worse; Nov 5th! Something everyone should view before election day !
Obama is a Liar and a Theif ; in his own Words.
And where is CNN,NBC,ABC,CBS etc,etc, busy electing him!
This will be the first campaign in history that the media has blatantly supported one candidate and suppressed literally volumes of information.

Retired Greek
I have little in common with the views of the Communist Party other than we both agree Bush's Presidency was/is a disaster. Also I agree with the comments you "quote" (supposedly from Sam Webb) with regard to the issues of Supreme Court appointments. I think Roberts and Alito, although highly intelligent, were not good appointments. My main reason for voting against McCain is the issue of the Supreme Court appointments. McCain, along with many commentators, says he wants to appoint "strict constructionist" judges like Scalia. Apparently, he doesn't even know that Scalia is not a believer in this judicial philosophy. Scalia has said he is "not a strict constructionist and no-one ought to be" and has called this philosophy "a degraded form of textualism that brings the whole philosophy into disrepute". Justice Thomas is also not a supporter of this philosophy (I believe he is an originalist). Neither of these justices are "strict constructionist". Frankly, I don't think much of either Scalia or Thomas but at least I know what their judicial philosophy is based on, unlike the poorly informed Senator McCain.

It seems you would like to connect Obama to the American Communist Party because one of their leader's is hoping Obama will win the election (assuming the words you quote are in fact accurate). Nice try but I don't buy the connection.

Joycey
Ever since Obama beat out Hillary,I have always believed she would exact some revenge. Not overtly so her fingerprints won't show,but pass on some information she may have gleaned with the aid of Bill and their old 'War Room'.

I will keep my fingers crossed that she still has at least one small decent bone in her body and will do her bit to save us from this predator and his army.


Huh?
"But, as Election Day approaches and early balloting proceeds in many states, ACORN’s tactics will get more and more media attention."

Just what media have you been watching, Dick?

A more likely scenario:
Any attempts to point out the obvious association between The Messiah and ACORN will be said to be "tinged with racism" by the media, who will then lament the depths to which the McCain camp has sunk while imploring the benighted masses to "stick to the issues."

Hillary Stand Up For Your Country.
Hillary this could be your greatest hour. If you love this country stand up. You know what OBAMA is going to do. You have had a taste of his political machine. He will crumble our economy. He is too far to the left. Hillary stand up. If you love this country stand up now. Do not support him.

What about Barney Frank
What about Franklin Raines. These men need to spend the rest of their lives in prison.

WFalicy
I did not address that comment about NY to you but I am sure Willie will appreciate you sticking up for him.

I have been reading insulting comments from lefties like William ever since I found this site. I am sick of it. I wanted to give him a taste of his own medicine. William has been on this thread spewing his bile and handing out insults from the beginning. It is typical of libs like you to correct me while your ilk does far worse. What have you to say to William?

If you had read my post correctly you would see that I was born and raised in NY so I know of what I speak. Do not pretend to tell me what I know or do not know. Your little story was nice but totally irrelevant. I am not like your friend – I lived it. Obviously I was bloviating and one hundred percent of NY’ers are not that way but a vast majority are. You are apparently one of the exceptions.

Regarding ACORN and any article you site I could just as easily site an article that contradicts it. The fact of the matter is Democrats have a long history of trying to steal elections no matter how hard you protest. The truth is Obama is not qualified to be POTUS, has questionable associations, and wants to TAKE from the haves and give to the have-nots which is anti-American and socialist on its face. McCain is not my favorite but at least he is not a socialist.


NO ACORNS in the Whitehouse.
I heard him say ACORN was going to be involved with his whole canidacy. I think these people will have his right ear in the whitehouse. He cannot distance himself from these people there is too much evidence out there.

William
You wrote: "FYI
I am From NYC bread and schooled"

Enough said. What amazes us is that you sound proud of it.

By the way, what is "NYC bread?" I don't think our deli carries that.

ACORN ????
CHUCK COLSON AND G GORDON LIDDY WENT TO PRISON OVER WATER GATE,AND THEY WERE GOOD MEN,SO WHAT ABOUT THE RADICAL ACORNS!

WFalicoff do you agree with Sam Webb 2

Report to the Communist Party USA National Committee, July 7, 2007


"Many comrades in discussions and by email gave me ideas and suggestions that I believe give the report more depth and range. I want to thank the comrades who took time out to convey their thinking.

Thus, despite its weakened position, the Bush administration with the assist of the Republicans in Congress continues to be the main obstacle to social progress and to a speedy exit from Iraq. In a parliamentary system, Bush would have had to voluntarily resign or be forced to resign.

While Bush will soon be history, we will have to live with U.S. Supreme Court for much longer – a court that Bush has tilted to the extreme right with the additions of Alito and Roberts last year.

Enlisting Democrats to support antiwar legislation has to go hand-in-hand with a sustained effort to peel away significant numbers of congressional Republicans from Bush’s war policy.

House Majority leader Nancy Pelosi said at the Take Back America conference that “the ‘biggest ethical challenge is the war in Iraq … (and) the new direction cannot be complete until we bring the troops home.”

In response to a group of communists whose manifesto militantly proclaimed that they wanted to attain their goal without stopping at intermediate stages and without any compromises, Frederick Engels wrote, “What childish innocence it is to present impatience as a theoretically convincing argument.”

Thus, the fact that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed are ready to exit Iraq, that Bush is becoming isolated in his own Party, and that Republicans are beginning to breakaway from Bush’s war strategy should be welcomed."
Sam Webb National Chair, Communist Party USA

Bobbit
I lived in the New York City area until I was 23 year. I not only lived in other states but other countries as well. Unlike you however I never thought I was the "smartest person in the world". Your criticism of New Yorkers can equally be applied to many Americans who literally know nothing about the rest of the world. The other day one of scientists who work in my building ranted on about "socialist" Europe. His proof of the failure of the "European system" was the unemployment rate in France. He claimed it was 21.5% last year. The only problem with this is that the real figure was 7.5%. Further, many European countries had lower unemployment rates than the US. The truth is we all need a little more humility and respect for others both as New Yorkers and Americans. I suggest you start listening carefully to a wide range of views. If we are to get out of the economic mess we are in we are going to have to work together. This means we have to stop demonizing and insulting everyone else who does not agree with us.

With regard to the issue of ACORN (the subject of this commentary) it is non issue as the article I point to a few comments above clearly shows. Read the entire article and then tell me why I am wrong.

WFalicoff do you agree with Sam Webb

"...Moreover, it is ready to strike the first and absolutely necessary blow in a few weeks, that is, to elect Barack Obama and bigger majorities in the House and Senate by a landslide..."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/27/2008 17:43

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"..marxism also says that state is an arena of struggle.

While the ruling class employs the state apparatus, including violence when necessary, to impose its interests on society, a united working class and people can successfully resist these measures from within as well as outside state structures.

This was done in the 1930s and in so doing, secured important victories for the nation’s working class and its allies.

It was also done in the 1960s and in doing so brought down the system of legal segregation. And we see it again today in the incredible efforts of millions of working people of all races and nationalities and their allies to elect Barack Obama and larger Democratic Party Congressional majorities in November.

Indeed, it is a task that takes on even greater significance given the financial storm that is shaking our country."

Author: Sam Webb, National Chair,
Communist Party USA
First published 09/23/2008 17:20



eastlake joe
Yeah...willie boy is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. That's apparent.

WFalicoff #155
Are you kidding with that stuff?

ROFLMAO!

You guys are pathetic.

william
You know I'm from NY too and just like you I thought I was the smartest person in the world and the rest of the country was made up of dumb hicks.

Then I lived in a number of states before landing in CA. You know what I found out?

I found out New Yorkers don't know jack sh!t about life in real America and that their opinions of theselves is blown way out of proportion. Just like yours!

You might want to try getting out of that hellhole once in a while (NJ is even lower - even NY'ers make fun of it), getting off your high horse, and shutting TFU. God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason boy!

LeftAngled
Not if he's being investigated for aiding and abbetting voter fraud! You might want to change your name to right angled now and avoid the rush later!

Lone
That's all you got? Salon.com and wikipedia?

ROFLMAO. You guys are pathetic.

Another view of ACORN
"The Republican Voter Fraud Hoax" see
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2008/oct /13/election-acorn-voter-fraud

One example of Republican dirty tricks from the past.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/01/opinion/01tue3.html

When the dust clears from this election and assuming Obama wins (personally I hope he does) I guess it will be the Republicans turn to whine and claim foul that the election was rigged. So far there is more proof of tampering by Republicans in this election than from the Democrats. The issue of ACORN is much to do about nothing.

justa workin stiff

If you can calm your 'Bush Derangement Syndrome' long enough to focus.

Here is a simple task for you, Refute this or at least explain it.
---------------------
he Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is a grassroots political organization.

ACORN invited Obama to help train its staff. Moreover, Obama eventually would sit on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which gave a number of sizable grants to ACORN.

In April 2007 The Nation reported, “Today Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side [of Chicago].”

1) ACORN is the largest radical group in America, with 175,000 dues-paying member families, and more than 850 chapters in 70 US cities.

2) ACORN is implicated in numerous reports of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams during the 2004 election.

In September 2008 the Board of Elections in Cuyahoga County, Ohio accused ACORN's paid workers, who had been tasked with registering as many pro-Democrat voters as possible, of submitting fraudulent voter-registration cards.

According to the Board, ACORN workers had commonly turned in separate cards with duplicate names but different addresses or different birth dates. Other cards listed people living at an address that was not a residence.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Attorney's office in Michigan indicated that it might prosecute ACORN for similar voter-registration scams in that state.

who put the acorn in barack's brain.
spongebob squarepants!!!!!

spongebob must be a racist....

All those western PA whiteys must be racists.

they cling to thier guns and religion too.

They all must be racists!!!!!

anyone who isn't a democrat must be a racist!

LOL!!!!!! When Pres. John McCain takes his oath he will heal those who can be healed, but no one can heal the reverse racism that barack has spread throughout this country and beyond.

Get a grip folks and see obama for what he is.

Rowly
You know, willie was probably one of those outsiders that caused ALL the trouble at Kent. He's probably quite proud of that as it's about as close as he got to attending!

William
I understand your wife has loved a number of Latins.

Guess you're not so smart after all eh?

Left Angle et al

I know Liberals and Democrats have a great deal of trouble focusing and you are the rule rather than the exception.

I want to help you out, the article is about:
'The Nuts at ACORN Could Cause Obama's Fall'.

You can help Obama out by refuting that. Not by changing the subject.

"I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work." — Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, November 2007.

Refute that statement with facts - it would really help Barack Obama.

BTW, you still haven't answered my questions.

C all F by his/her full name
Thats' F.D. Up to you!

StandingHisGround
I never did get to Prager's column yesterday. It was my birthday and a friend took me to lunch. I have to admit,I missed Rush and posting. I will be glad when the election is over,so my life will get back to normal (and boring )!

Summers has a way with words. I enjoy her posts. Also,many others,including yours.

THE TONE
why is it the tone on this blog has deteriorated to the partisan my dog is better than your dog blather?
IN the above nearly 100 reader posts almost 100% have "facts" that have already been shown false by numerous sources.

Folks it's going to boil down to this...money matters ..the money in people's pockets. Acorn isn't going to matetr becuase the voter fraud issue has DEEP roots that cover both sides of the asile in mulch...even in this election season the Republican's have been noted sending out absentee ballot information in several key states with bogus return address envelopes nd tehy seem to always ome from historically democratic districts....no one believes either side isn't cheating and in the long run it just doesn't matter anymore.
Both would make good presidents, especially after these last 8 years (anyone who still thinks GWB has been even an average president is smiply not all there).
For me the clincher is the same one that Chris Buckley and several others have listed. Palin is simply not ready.

bobott: A WIN IS A WIN
As long as Sen Obama secures the 270 electoral college votes to WIN the potus..I dont give a darn what the polls say and I have total confidence he is going to do it.

whats amazing to me is that repubs/cons controlled the federal govt for 6 years, the white house, u.s. congress and the ussc with bush holding the veto pen over dems for the last two years, you completley screwed up the country in the process and now you want and think you deserve 4 more years to govern? OF ALL THE UNMITIGATED GALL...

LOOK DUDE YOU REPUBS/CONS BLEW IT. COME ELECTION DAY 08
THE VERDICT WILL COME IN AND I DONT THINK ITS GONNA LOOK PRETTY FOR THE GOP. CHANGE WILL HAVE ARRIVE VIA OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS..LOL

Teflon Don 3:07
Oh, so you want oblamma to win huh? That's who you are voting for if you vote for any independant at this time the polls say 5% for independants. Any one other than Ovomit or J. McCain does NOT have the chance of an ice cube in Hades!

All of you Lefty Moonbats
Look I know the real reason you're all here today dominating this thread. You know with everything you've mentioned: stock market, houses, Bush, etc. that Obama should be so far ahead in the polls that we should simply cancel Election Day. But you all know it's far too close. Your guy (I was gonna say boy but you'd probably call me racist) should be up 20+ points. BUT HE'S NOT IS HE? Hell even Kerry had a bigger lead and he got spanked!

When you look at polls of "likely voters" the greatest indicator there's ever been, the polls are within the margin of error.

If you morons think the American people, 59% of whom identify themselves as center right, are going to let you little punk socialist, commie, gay loving, sh!t eating creeps, steal an election for your anti-American little half-breed - you're crazy!

See most Ameicans are not as stupid as you! They know Bush screwed up, they know Rep Congress screwed up - but they love their country and they are not in the business of signing their own death warrants.

So go ahead with your vomitous little comments and your brain-dead knowledge/distortion of history and enjoy the little surprise you're gonna get Nov 5th!

You guys are pathetic. And you suk.

McCain Keynote At ACORN Rally?
Leaders from a diverse array of sectors will hold a rally in Miami on Thursday, February 23, 2006, in support of comprehensive immigration reform in an effort to keep immigration reform at the forefront of the public debate. Leaders from both political parties, immigrant communities, labor, business, and religious organizations will gather to call on Washington to enact workable reform.

The rally will feature Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) as the headline speaker along with elected officials, immigrants and key local and national leaders. Sen. McCain is one of the chief sponsors of the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act; bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform legislation introduced last Congress and scheduled for consideration by the Senate in the coming weeks. A similar rally with Sen. McCain is planned for New York City on February 27

The rally in Miami is being sponsored by the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC) in partnership with ACORN, Catholic Legal Services - Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia Vota en Acción, Service Employees International Union, and UNITE HERE.

What the heck?

"William", Taxation W/O Representation
*
THOMAS JEFFERSON:
"The democracy ceases to exits when power is taken from those willing to work and given to those who would not".
Poverty is a blight anywhere it exists, but unfortunately in this country it has become a tool for those more fortunate to imprison those with less.
As we now see the population swell to unsustainable proportions, the burden on those actually paying taxes increases exponentially, while the realization of the American Dream diminishes by the same ratio!
No one likes Poverty sir, but Democrats have used it to create a state of mind to keep their base of power and keep their constituents from realizing that same dream!
Since when is it rule of Gov't that no poverty should exist and no individual will shall gain. Since Carl Marx penned those ideas.
And as History shows, a failed idea.
The Great Democrat John F Kennedy who's name is thrown around and abused by modern Democrats as though he was a steward of socialist ideas, defame his great character by association alone. John Kennedy C U T, taxes in HALF when he walked into the oval office and created one of the biggest economic surges the US has ever seen, Lifting all Americans Equally. An economic policy driven by the Idea of cumulative prosperity rather than a social policy driven by the idea of Economic retribution.
As could be seen in all his policies, The National Physical Fitness act, the Moon shot,
staring down communism at the Berlin Wall like Ronald Reagan, were all a celebration of the individual's strive for achievement rather than the collective strive for equality Barack Obama exhorts to Plumbers and society as a whole.

phony polls Rush's fault
Obama knows it he saw what millions of GOP voters reregistering as Democrats to vote in their primary elections that is why the polls are wrong

Read my blog below for the details


http://gipperwagon.blogtownhall.com/

Rowly
Regarding William from NJ (by way of NY) and his, uh, ISSUES with spelling and grammar (let alone LOGIC): well, what ELSE have we come to expect by now from a typical northeast liberal?

The poster Mod_Mark is also a liberal from New York. I don't know how many of the posts you might have seen yesterday on Dennis Prager's thread, but Mod_Mark submitted on Prager's thread one of the all-time great pieces of liberal deep-thinking I've ever seen on TownHall when he asked (I'm not making this up) the following question:

"And why did Christianity take such a drastic change with the birth of Christ?"

And Summers from Lousiana responded with one of the best one-line repartees I've ever seen on this site when he replied:

"Tell me that someone faked your handle and made that question up."

Retired Geek
I call this a bloodless coup. Our freedoms depend on seeing him and his supporters fail.

I replied to Anne's message,also.

ACORN dirty tricks at the primary/caucus
ACORN bused in Obama supporters to overwhelm the caucuses at the primaries as well, there are numerous sites with video testimony that Obama stole the nomination. It shows how empty he is that he could then state in his acceptance speech 'that the oceans began to recede and the planet start to heal' when he got the nomination. If a man can steal a nomination, leaving the broken hearts of millions of democratic voters for Hillary stomped on the floor like bugs, then say he felt the 'planet begin to heal' when his racketeering was successful, what is he capable of? If you value our voting system and its credibility, give this criminal the shock of his life on election day, reject him.

Democrats and voter Fraud in caucuses

Liberal Democrats will NOT be silenced

Liberal Democrats are saying Barack Obama committed voter fraud and have documented 2000 cases in Texas alone. Go to this website and hear and see the documentation

"As Americans, we expect certain liberties and rights that were granted us by our forefathers, who wrote documents like the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. "We the people" expect that these fundamental rights will always be protected. However, in the current Democratic Presidential Primary, this has not been the case.

We believe that the The Democratic National Committee (DNC) made a grave error by depriving American voters of their choice of Hillary Clinton as Democratic nominee. Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn't happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts.

We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for "dinners," etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party."



http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

Karen, CT - Obama Birth Certificate
Here is a link to a YouTube interview with the lawyer who filed the lawsuit about Obama's birth certificate.

At first I thought this was all a hoax, and some kook was doing this, but after watching this video (featuring a DEMOCRAT)I am now convinced that this is real. This lawyer is making a lot of sense and his arguments are reasonable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Glyla5R7B8

Who is trying to "Steal" the Election
It is not ACORN that will be an embarrassment for Obama but more likely it will be all the activities of fringe groups trying to disenfranchise voters. It has already started in key battleground states. And the problem Mr. Morris is that it is not democrats behind these dirty tricks but republicans. There is a massive attempt to stop voters from going to the polls. Some are being called and told that the election day has been changed from Nov. 4 to Nov. 14th. Some are being charged with a voter crime by the local police without any proof. Tens of thousands are being summarily removed from the voter rolls without any reason at all. In college towns studens are being told that if they have a traffic ticket that the police will be waiting at the polls for them. The "dirty" tricks abound and the activities of ACORN are "Lilly White" compared to those being perpetrated to aid John McCain win the presidency.

Now I know something about dirty tricks as I was a campaign manager for someone running for Parliament in the UK. The dirty tricks that I saw in the 1970s in the UK are nothing compared to what is going on in the US elections. I think Mr. Morris knows more about this than he is likely to admit. From what I can ascertain the Republicans have much more to hide in this election than the Democrats. I expect it will only get worse when you are the candidate behind in the polls by 10 points.

StandingHisGrouund
William says he is "NYC bread and schooled". In the south 'bread' is a food. ( To some,it is money.) You learn something new every day from these trolls.

Associations don't matter
At least Barack Obama's associations don't matter. Thanks to the Dems, and even to many Republicans, we now have in this country a bona fide proletariet -- a MASS of people who constitute the hands-out, gimme-gimme-gimme, Kool-aid drinking majority who crave a nanny state and being taken care of. They want, they want, they want -- but way too few DO anything about what they want other than use their mouths.

This is the perfect support group for Barack. The proletariet doesn't care if the man associates with American-hating "pastors," terrorists who live in Chicago suburbs, organizations like ACORN who steal, buy and otherwise SCAM voter registrations, or even thugs like Rezko. They simply DON'T CARE. Horrendous associations are just okey-dokey with the proletariet, so long as they get a hand-out, welfare, a giveaway.

And Barack is just the baby to give them their giveaways.

The end of American life as we know it. "Share the wealth" as he recently described it. Mr. Marxist himself.

Envy is a mobile weapon
Watching "Frontline" last night, I took note of Sen. Tom Daschle's comment that when he was urging Obama to seek the Presidency now rather than later, after he'd gained more experience, he told him, "you need to do it now, before you have a record that they can use against you."

Clearly, Democrats are not even trying to hide the fact anymore that they are trying to get Obama, the Senate's most liberal member, in "under the radar." This is a perfect example of the elite left's "respect" for the electorate they represent.

Obama is a "trojan horse" candidate. Liberals in government and in our mainstream media are trying to usher in their radical socialist policies by hiding them within a candidate who is hiding his intentions. He is hiding them within walls protected from disclosure by gatekeeping on the part of the press and intimidation by those who toss accusations of "racism" at anyone who dares to question his past, his associations, his writings, his lack of record, itself... all of which are the ONLY things we have to know who he is.

Obama's entire past reveals his willingness to stoke the fires of class envy to force change.

Envy is a mobile weapon on a constantly shifting battlefield. Those willing to use it as a weapon to steal and quiet their brother are at risk when the fulcrum that divides the line between the "haves" vs. the "have nots" shifts in their direction.

McCain Supports Acorn?

Sen. McCain Key Note Speaker At ACORN Rally In 2006?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9wy2MI1NI

William
William in NJ wrote: " Let me guess you have more fingers then teeth
Upset that south lost the war and soon well you know whats coming ( You all )
Come on tell me you don't still dream of the days of the glorious south
See we up North Have 7 out of the top 10 Universities in the country, at least half of the fortune 500 in the North
we have by far a better educated population , more diverse and dam if we don't make more money then the south by far
Still upset huh "

William,you also have the most crime,especially your political criminals. How many are in jail now?

Evidently,you were a busboy or janitor in one of those fine universities. I doubt if you ever attended one.

Your 'messiah' has not stolen the election,yet. Trying hard,but has not succeeded.

Keep posting. You are a prime example of the mind-numb robots who are rabid for this creep. I look foreward to see how low you will go.

ACORN = SAD Distraction
Just silly 'guilt-by-association targeting,
BUT.................

McCain and his friends at…ACORN
visit:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Acorn_pushes_ba ck_hugs_McCain.html

Obama ACORN Trainer and gave $800,000
he Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is a grassroots political organization.

ACORN invited Obama to help train its staff. Moreover, Obama eventually would sit on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which gave a number of sizable grants to ACORN.

In April 2007 The Nation reported, “Today Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side [of Chicago].”

1) ACORN is the largest radical group in America, with 175,000 dues-paying member families, and more than 850 chapters in 70 US cities.

2) ACORN is implicated in numerous reports of fraudulent voter registration, vote-rigging, voter intimidation, and vote-for-pay scams during the 2004 election.

In September 2008 the Board of Elections in Cuyahoga County, Ohio accused ACORN's paid workers, who had been tasked with registering as many pro-Democrat voters as possible, of submitting fraudulent voter-registration cards.

According to the Board, ACORN workers had commonly turned in separate cards with duplicate names but different addresses or different birth dates. Other cards listed people living at an address that was not a residence.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Attorney's office in Michigan indicated that it might prosecute ACORN for similar voter-registration scams in that state.

Obama and ACORN partnering in 'Voter Fraud' 'Change' and 'Hope' for America?

Palins' Anti-American Iranian LINK
Anti-American, domestic terrorist, secessionist Vogler had persuaded the government of IRAN to sponsor his anti-American harangue, during his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States .

That's right ... Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.

AIP leaders state Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow secessionist(and CRIMINAL), DURING AN ILLEGAL PLASTIC EXPLOSIVES PURCHASE,was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he could reach his U.N. platform. "The United States government would have been deeply embarrassed," by Vogler's U.N. speech, darkly suggests AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark. "And we can't have that, can we?"

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unam erican/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Vogler

"FIRST DUDE" was an registered member for YEARS, currently registered as "undeclared."

SARAH was their government "INFILTRATOR" (their word).

"She was an AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town — that was a non-partisan job. But to get along and go along — she eventually joined the Republican Party"

"The pitfalls of an organized political party - you don’t have any control over who joins that party. They put the X next to it on the registration form, and if they join the — go into the primary, and win that primary, they’re your candidate, like it or not. I think Ron Paul has kind of proven that. He’s a dyed -in-the-wool Libertarian. He came to Alaska and spoke as a Libertarian. And he put the Republican label on to get elected. That’s all there is to it. And any one of your organizations should be using that same tactic to INFILTRATE."
VIDEO:
http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/palin-republican-p arty-infiltrator-damning-video/


Young Communist League - ACORN - Dems

Author: Joelle Fishman,
Chair, Political Action Committee, Communist Party USA
First published 11/21/2006 16:58

“The Milwaukee YCL (Young Communist League) also mobilized the club for labor walks and also participated with a coalition to defeat the anti-gay marriage initiative.

Florida YCLers worked in Orlando and Jacksonville with ACORN.

YCLers in Hartford and New Haven worked with the Party District for Ned Lamont.

The Chicago Club worked with the Party District on a series of labor walks, including for Tammy Duckworth.

“Our new Arkansas Study Group was a leading voice in the University of Arkansas campus coalition to get out the student vote.

They worked with the local Democrats and ACORN.

New Jersey YCLers worked mainly with the Party District to re-elect Menendez.

Last, DC YCLers going to school in Maryland worked through campus-based peace coalitions to elect a Democratic governor.”


Rowly
Yeah, I happened to notice your post to William from New Jersey just after my post referencing him appeared on this board. And I see William is STILL at it, too!

Yeah, like someone from NEW JERSEY ought to be sneering at ANYONE about the Civil War. A little piece of history that I'll bet William doesn't even know: General George McClellan was sacked by Lincoln, ran against him unsuccessfully in the 1864 presidential election on the Democratic ticket - and then in the late 1870's, this loser was elected as Democratic governor of NEW JERSEY! Goes to show you that even 130 years ago, Democrats from New Jersey were ALREADY proving how limited mentally they were!

Obama - ACORN and Communists

"...Two months later, on January 31, in this hall, we held an extraordinary national conference which established our framework for the 2004 elections.

The conference was extraordinary because of the turnout of 250 plus multi-racial, multi-national activists from states large and small across our land.

It was extraordinary because of the message of leaders from other organizations who came and called upon us, that our presence was much needed as Communists.

Remember the president of NY NOW telling us she wanted to see lots of red flags at the March for Women’s Lives.

And the chair of ACORN and Working Families Party who called upon us as family to make our contribution known. Did we respond? YES, we responded!

Across the country, we rolled up our sleeves, in swing states and so-called safe states.

In voter registration drives, local races and Congressional battlegrounds. Walking precincts and working phone banks out of union halls.

In presidential battleground states from Ohio, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to Minnesota and New Hampshire, our folks were quickly tapped to help lead the work."

Author: Joelle Fishman, Chair,
Political Action Committee, Communist Party USA
First published 11/23/2004 18:42

Townhall
To para-phrase McCain at last weeks debate "It's like throwing Jello-O at the wall and trying to make it stick."

Every single article on this website and the majority of it's postings are about in one way another all about Obama (albeit all negative). Think about it, how many articles are devoted to John McCain and the Republicans plans if elected? I would guestimate less than 5%.

It smells of desperation and is the reason why independent voters, like myself, who voted Republican in the last two election cycles are not on your side and we will stab you in the back on Nov 4.

Bill Ayers - Carefully Chosen Friend

"I chose my friends carefully." - Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)

Bill Ayers is a carefully chosen friend of Barrack Obama. Born in 1944, Currently a professor of education at the University of Illinois.

Who is Bill Ayers?
------------------
1) Leader of the 1960s and 70s domestic terrorist group Weatherman. The Weatherman issued a 'Manifesto', calling for armed opposition to US policies, includig Capitalism and asked white radicals to launch a 'Race War' against 'White Skin Privilege'. Leaders like Mark Rudd (currently a mathematics professor at a New Mexico community college) traveled illegally to Cuba in 1968 for terroist training by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine, who taught Marxist philosophy and urban warfare. Weather men always spelled America - 'AmeriKKKa'.

2) "Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents." Bill Ayers

3) Participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, of the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972. Ayers proudly stated that he didn’t "regret setting the bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough."

"America is NOT a just and fair and decent place - it makes me want to puke." Ayers said in 2001

In the mid-1990s, Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn hosted meetings at their Chicago home to introduce Barack Obama to their neighbors during Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois Senate.

In 1999 Ayers joined the Woods Fund of Chicago, where he served as a director alongside Barack Obama until the Obama left the Woods board in December 2002.

Review of Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC) documents shows that Ayers and Obama each chaired the two CAC operating bodies from 1995 to 2000.

Michelle Obama started working at a law firm with Bernadette Dohrn, Ayers wife, in 1985.

Barack is Black?
I guess that would have been news to his late mother who was an eighteen year old white woman when she bore him. It probably would have been news to his white maternal grandparents who essentially raised him.

It's the content of his character, or lack thereof that makes him objectionable to so many.

Who is Obama friend Bernardine Dohrn ?

In the 1960s, Bernardine Dohrn and her husband Bill Ayers were leaders of the Students for a Democratic Society's "Weatherman" faction, which in 1969 went underground to become America's first terrorist cult.

At a 1969 "War Council" in Flint, Michigan, Dohrn gave her most memorable and notorious speech to her followers.

Holding her fingers in what became the Weatherman "fork salute," she said of the bloody murders recently committed by the Manson Family in which the pregnant actress Sharon Tate and several other inhabitants of a Benedict Canyon mansion had been brutally stabbed to death: "Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach! Wild!" Dohrn is currently an Associate Professor of Law at Northwestern University.

Michelle Obama first met Bernardine Dohrn in 1985 when they worked together at a Chicago law firm.

In the mid-1990s Dohrn and her husband, Bill Ayers, hosted meetings at their Chicago home to introduce Barack Obama to their neighbors during his first run for the Illinois Senate.


William in New Jersey
Aren't you on the wrong website??? Shouldn't you be on the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, or Obama for President blog??? You are getting beat up .

What Went Wrong
As a conservative, I believe we blew it when we took control of government and didn't act like conservatives. We spent money just like a Democrat. We lost Congress and will lose again, not because the American people disagree with conservative ideas, it is because those we put into power did not uphold true conservative ideas. We must attempt to earn back the trust we lost, it will not be easy.

F
"If a biggoted church bothered you, you'd be dismayed by the past relationship with McCain and Falwell - but it doesn't."

If Jerry Falwell was so "biggoted" (I assume you meant "bigoted"), why did so many African-
Americans attend his church?

StandingHisGrouund
I had a rebut for him as you were typing! His post is so funny! He is one of thousands who are frothing at the mouth with glee,thinking 'one of their own' will lead us.

I CANNOT believe Barack Hussein Obama can win an honest election in this country. There are so many more of us as there are of them. We who know what is going on.

I cannot believe we,as a country have sunk so far that we would elect someone with his credentials and caliber. It is mind-boggling to think that there are that many people who would purposely give up their freedoms and pride of country.

An Obama Admistration would finish bringing us to the level of a Third World Country,which is what he and some others are striving for.

George Patton Jr lll
You are so right, it's too bad more and more our young people are just becoming mindless leftwinged sheeple who have bought into outright lies. I wish more people understood your grasp of reality!

William Lopez - NJ ... Dancing Now...

When William is called out as a race-baiter he writes,

"I never called anyone a racist. I said that your upset because a black man will lead this country"


OHHHH I see. You're suggesting I don't like Obama because HE'S BLACK... but you're not calling me a racist?


Well William - I'm sure you hate whitey, think whitey holds the black man down, and think the Government created AIDS to destroy the black community.

But I ain't calling you racist. You just don't like whitey. Right?

Paragrouper
You are dead nuts on the money!!! I don't believe in conspiracies but what a better way than to purposely destroy the economy right before the election so we can get the most liberal, far left, socialist dumocrat and ties to all his questionable associations in the highest office of our once great nation.

Husker2
I'm sure F DID "try to think" before making his/her/its posts. The problem was, he/she/it TRIED AND FAILED - but like every good liberal, wasn't going to let something as mundane as failure stop him/her/it from going ahead anyway.

Government Education Caused All This
If it wasn't for government education, the people of this country would not even know who Barack Obama is. But, the masses have been severely dumbed-down by Hollywood, the media and politicians. What's left is what he have around us. Human beings who are too damned dumb for their own good. And it sucks when they use the power of their vote to drag everyone else down with them. What wonderful people they truly are. Idiot Mentality of the 21st Century "Government-Educated" American Voter: "It's the government's job to educate my children, not my responsibility. It's the government's job to provide me a job, not my responsibility. It's the government's job to provide my healthcare, not my responsibility. The government should make damn sure that I'm not offended. The government should tell me what temperature I'm allowed to have my air-conditioner set at. The government should tell me what type of lightbulbs I'm allowed to use in my home. The government should punish me for not wearing my seatbelt". It just seems like so many people in this country have been indoctrinated("dumbed-down") in support of all this crap. Indoctrinated into the belief that the United States government should be your sugar daddy and come-along every day and wipe your butts for you. Therefore, my belief is that the American people deserve high taxes, high gas prices, oppression, tyranny, and everything else bad. You people deserve Barack Obama and his terrorist friends.

Fallatio B

Writes "The financial meltdown is primarily a GOP-caused catastrophy. Instead of owning up, or showing remorse for their nasty dealings what do they do?"


WOW - it appears ACORN has released their "rejects" who are now posting on TH.

Umm... the REASON the financial meltdown is happening, einstein, is because:

1) President Clinton pushed for liberal lending and created "Affordable Housing"

2) People who didn't qualify and couldn't afford homes got loans.

3) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bought up those loans to allow for MORE "Affordable Housing" loans.

4) The GOP and President Bush ALL called for greater oversight. Democrats (Frank, Dodd, Schumer) and others fehemently opposed it!

5) Some Wall Street firms, drunk on greed, bought the derivatives of these bad loans.

When homeowners defaulted - the result is what we have.

If you REALLY want to point fingers... it belongs SQUARELY at Bill Clinton, Franklin Reines, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Charles Schumer.

But being a good little democrat you'd rather just blame the gop.

Idiot.

Cato
Good points.

It was almost magical how the economy crashed right when McCain/Palin were gathering momentum and pulling ahead of Obama.

Socialism is on the march, with the MSM spreading the message of panic and fear to hasten the day when we can call ourselves the USSA.


F
Reading through the above posts, I was more and more amazed at F's responses.

Do you all realize how many people think like F?

Our country is going to elect a president who also thinks like F.

It's amazing that these same people call Bush stupid.

F, please (!) try to think before you write any more.

This is getting scary.

obama won't survive


The voter fraud finger points at Obambi-- Nothing he'll say in the next week or two will exonerate him and his party. They've had endless assistance from the media; but soon that also will fall apart.

The entire stack of provocative scandals in the Democrat party lends added weight to Acorn voter fraud. All of them look like CROOKS! Obama is the goat now. This debate tonight is sure to make him shiver. Acorn is coming up for review, right in his face; & the people all watching!

--How sweet it IS ! ! ! DIE, Zombie, DIE! Hahaahaha!

william
William in NJ wrote: " Your just upset you cant ware your lovely white outfit in public any more
And wave that Lovely FLAG of yours "

Is this the type of school dropout who is voting for 'The Messiah'? It is easy to fool the foolish. William,is a prime example.

An invalid premise
Morris' thesis in his column is predicated on an invalid assumption.

Morris wrote, "But meanwhile, ACORN, the radical community group, is becoming an embarrassment for Obama."

One question comes immediately to mind for me: when is the last time an ardent Democrat has shown the capacity to be embarrassed by ANYTHING?! In fact, it appears that one indispensible requirement these days for membership in the Democratic Party is SHAMELESSNESS!


Oh, and Rowly:

I noticed William from New Jersey's comment to you that "Your just upset you cant ware your lovely white outfit in public any more
And wave that Lovely FLAG of yours". Forgive him, he knows not what he says: I think the fumes from all the toxic waste dumps that New Jersey is host to have eaten away at his brain!

Obama/ACORN Song
(To the tune of Camptown Races, with apologies to Stephen Foster)

Barack Obama sings this song,
Hoo-Hah, Hoo-Hah,
Nose gets longer all day long,
Oh the Hoo-Hah day.

You can vote all night,
You can vote all day,
And you won't even need a pulse,
On Election Day.

Ascorn and it's shakedown
Community organizers are just one more part of the problem that they and the Demonrats help to destroy our economy. It's group like ascorn demanding no forcing/strong arming banks to write loans to people who cannot afford them. It's the socialist manifesto of supposed fairness to take money from people who hard and make a honest living and giving it to people who didn't work for it - DUMOCRAPS THIS IS NOT FAIRNESS IT'S LEFTWING GOVERNMENT THEFT!

If we elect Obamicide, we will only get more of the same government taking, no stealing from those who work hard and giving it to people who don't deserve it, & to their elitist friends and shakedown constituents. And yes Obamicides relationships very much have to do with all the issues we are facing as they will shape and destroy our free society into a far left dictatorship of only liberal socialism.

LOSER tactic
But it's the only thing the RW/GOP seem willng to cling to as their ship sinks. Forget addressing the REAL issues. Forget doing something productive to staunch the bloodletting of the GOP. Instead, they focus there energy ON THE POOR. Election fraud that affects the actual vote outcome is a GOP scandal. The financial meltdown is primarily a GOP-caused catastrophy. Instead of owning up, or showing remorse for their nasty dealings what do they do? THEY BLAME THE POOR AND THOSE WHO ARE HELPING THE POOR.

Again, a LOSER tactic.

William - NJ A Racist!

William writes,

"I pity you , a Black man will lead this country and your pissed because he is BLACK and you don't have the COJONES to admit it , how sad "


William - FINALLY your true colors came out. You're the type of person who thinks anyone and everyone against Obama is a RACIST.

YEP - THAT'S IT, William. You're right! ALL those people supporting John McCain are racist.

It has NOTHING to do with Obama voting to kill Born-Alive legislation. It has NOTHING to do with Obama's socialist agenda of "spreading the wealth around", Universal Healthcare, or insulting our fighting men/women.

It has NOTHING to do with Obama calling many of us "bitter Americans".

It has NOTHING to do with Obama's association with US Terrorists, Anti-American Bigots at his Church, or Obama's close ties to ACORN.

It's ALL BECAUSE WE'RE RACIST.

Gee William - you so dang smart!

Obama Is A Smooth Talking Con Man
He's campaigning as a black man with foreign roots. Half a man is running for POTUS. It suckers in alot of votes. Did you know the white half of the family has been around America since 1643ish. Think they owned slaves?

Politicians lie outright or stretch the truth to get elected. The winner of this election?

- Whether the voter picks Democrat or Republican
- Votes half black
- Best liar

Too many Lies!
It seems to me that Obama has much to hide. I don't feel I could EVER trust this man to lead our country. I do have a question if someone out there can answer it. I heard a report recently that says that Obama does not have a birth certificate to show proof that he is a US citizen and that he does not have a social security number. Of course if either of these were true I would think he could not be running for President so I imagine it might just be a rumor as there are so many during these races. Has anyone heard this? With all the questionable ties that Obama has I guess nothing would surprise me.

Too bad
Democracy has had a good run. Fortunate for the generations who enjoyed the opportunity!

Meltdown was planned by Dems

This and countless other articles have pointed out that the "Financial Meltdown" is the one and only thing that will ensure Obama waltzes into the White House.

Is it not obvious that this so-called "meltdown" was planned and executed by the Democrats?

Houses are not like fruit trees or wheat fields. The housing market did not suddenly plunge into a crisis. The current crisis has existed for at least 2 years and the Democrats purposely sat on it and let it worsen and fester in order to get their candidate elected.

The Democratic politicians who orchestrated this "sudden" crisis are criminals of the worst order who care about nothing but their own power, prestige and wealth (acquired by graft and corruption).

If Obama is elected, he will wreck this country as all socialists do. He may get elected but will only succeed in one day being compared to Lenin, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Mao and Castro.

And in that day, these fascists will be regarded as evil, wicked, horrible tyrants and despots.

You Gotta LOVE Jessie Jackson!!

First he wants to cut off Obama's... Acorns...

Now he tells muslims and sympathizers Obama would end "Israel First" policies.

Keep talking Jessie!!!

(Now if Jessie Jackson was white .. you KNOW screams of racism would abound!!)

DICK Morris & the right-- .......
......-- Totally Out Of It. TownHall's posting the dishonest ridiculous ravings of DICK Morris is symbolic of how out of touch, out of the truth, out of reality, out of their minds, and almost out of time the right wing is. DICK repeats his LIE that Obama was general counsel for Acorn. Obama WAS NOT GENERAL COUNSEL FOR ACORN. He represented ACORN in 1 lawsuit as part of a team of lawyers. The Dept of Justice and the League of Women Voters also represented ACORN in that lawsuit.

DICK writes: "But more likely they are just distracted by the financial meltdown all around them. The candidates seem unable to get a word in edgewise as the financial news dominates.
If the presidential race remains an afterthought, crowded out by the financial news"
Nobody in their right mind would agree w/ that ridiculous drivel. But here it is on TownHall. TH is truly throwing crap against the wall.

"if the stock market stops its gyrations... the negatives against Obama will compel attention at last.
And then the race may close swiftly and dramatically." -More desperate idiotic hogwash. DICK should stick to sucking toes. He truly sucks at punditry, honesty, or being right.

The right is like DICK Morris- SO WRONG FOR SO MANY REASONS!

William - NJ

Writes, "Jon Yep , just like suspected , a Republican waved the white FLAG "


William, you're one of those "OJ is innocent!" type of people, aren't you?

You're so blinded by your partisan ferver you couldn't FIND a reasonable position if it bite you in the arse.

You cried earlier how conservatives don't want to debate you. Dude, you're a lunatic. Why would anyone want to waste a moment of their precious life attempting to debate someone like you?



Samis
Your from Alabama so I expect ignorance.... nobody bringing up that garbage because it is not of substance.... we are teetering on the verge of financial collapse and you clows want to talk about people's friends and associates because you have nothing to stand on regarding the issues!

You have torn down this great nation and I am glad to hear former or current repugs vowing to vote democratic this time out!

Community Activists
Obama was trained in Alinsky (Rules for Radicals) methods, where the ends justify the means and one does anything to win. He is using these methods well in his campaign, according to Alinsky's son. ACORN fits in well. They clog the system with fraudulent registrations, using up resources. If some of the registrations get through, fine. They also register tens of thousands of Democrats, even if they are fraudulent. Alinsky said power is not just what you have, it is what the opponent thinks you have. So, these registrations can cause confusion and fear, a worthy goal unto itself.

Obama should.....
Obama should take it as a victory that all the repugs have is acorn and ayers...... neither of which the American public give a rats grass about!

Ayers bombed when Obama was 8! Acorn can register fake documents...... but its a zero sum gain because fake people cannot show up to vote and multiple registrations get deleted. This is all the repugs have..... your chickens have come home to roost! You have shipped and outsouced America wholesale for 8 years and now THE PUBLIC is back and demanding balance and a return to the American greatness you repugs have been auctioning off!

Obama/Biden 08!

Odinga and Obama
Why does no one expose this connection????? Is the MSM and Fox afraid of it. This was done on taxpayers dime.

ProudSouth

"Rightwingers - Something must be wrong with your Philosophy. Not many people seems to care about you guys. "



Gee - if my memory is correct... only ONE democrat has been elected to the White House in the last 28 years.

What party has been shooting political air-balls for the majority of Presidential races, Proudsouth?

SERIOUSLY - if "liberal" philosophy was SO great ... why in sam-hell is Obama lurching to the right??

Tax-cuts for 95% of America!
More War in Afghanistan!
Voted for FISA!

And when you consider Bush's approval ratings, the financial crisis, etc - Obama SHOULD be up by 20%+ ... instead it's a 5-6% race.

But you hold on tight to you belief it's going to ba a landslide. Yes PLEASE conveniently forget it was the GOP who got George Bush elected... TWICE!

Obviously people are not paying ...
attention to what is going on. ACORN was earmarked in the original bailout proposal (that was defeated) to receive a HUGE sum of money. All the voter fraud news that is coming out shows that ACORN and the liberals will do ANYTHING to win, including lie, cheat and steal. Obama worked with them in Chicago and is cut from the same cloth. Any of you libs that don't see that or don't see what is wrong with that are totally blind. I guess most of you want Marxism and want the government to take from "rich" and give to the "poor". That destroys a nation from within because the incentive to succeed is squashed. Self reliance is destroyed. EVERYTHING our founding fathers believed in and established is being thrown in the trash heap of history.
The other part of this election that just baffles me is that McCain should be way ahead of Obama in the polls because of the economy BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FANNIE MAE AND FREDDY MAC COLLAPSE. Their changing of the banking rule to "encourage" loans to people who could not afford them caused the collapse, not greedy wall street. The problem is the main stream media just parrots the Democrats pat line that it was the Bush administration policies that caused it. What a load of crap! It was Republicans who tried to rein it in only to be thwarted by the Dems (Dodd and Frank). Those of you who still think Obama is a uniter and bringer of change are delusional. Look at his voting record! His own words sound like Carl Marx. Wealth redistribution. He admits that increasing taxes will probably reduce the revenue the government gets, but he doesn't care because the "right" people will be getting taxed. IF that is not socialism, nothing is. Why this is not being trumpeted from the street is due to bad strategy from the McCain camp and complicity with the Obama camp by the MSM.
We are in for some dark years I am afraid. Don't say you have not been warned!!

Barack Hussein Obama..Useful Idiot
The Drudge Report has a list of 'talking points' sent around to the media to use for the debates.

If there is any doubt that the media and the Obama Campaign are co-ordinating to get him elected,this blows it out of the water.

I have said before ,this is not an election...it is a bloodless coup. In the end,it may not be bloodless.

McCain could bring us to 3rd world std
Republican Bush has already done a great job at bringing the US down to the third world level.

McCain has been worshiping Bush's policies for a long time.

Except for tonight when he will try to reject policy in a desperate attempt to win over voters.


FILIBUSTER PROOF SENATE.....
Coming your way.....

I am sick of liberal mouth peices
Talking about how if McCain goes after Obama for his relationships of all these crazies that it will turn off the undecided voters. BS, it needs to be brought to the fore front in order to show the average person that even when faced with the issues, Obama is unapologetic in regards to his ties to all these extremist groups. What is really scary is that if attacking someone’s failed judgment turns off "independent" voters then we have a much bigger issue here in the USA

YOUTUBE____Presenting; OBAMA the L I A R
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Obama and A C O R N in person ploting Nov 4Th and worse; Nov5th!

Something everyone should view before election day !

Obama is a Liar and a Theif; in his own Words.
And where is CNN,NBC,ABC,CBS etc,etc, busy electing him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG29uP3mvUc

http://www.roadsassy.com/2008/10/11/caught-on-tapeobama-pro mising-acorn-that-
they-will-help-shape-his-policies-in-the-white-house/

William - NJ

You said, "If I Recall Nixon was the president was he not ( during the war ) "


ACTUALLY William - JFK got us into Vietnam. LBJ escalated the war. And NIXON was the guy who got us out.

Did you not know this?

Someone is not agreeing with Right Wing
Come Jan 09

1. Liberal President Obama
2 .Liberal Speaker Pelosi ( with a increased majority)

3. Senate Majority leader Reid ( with 55+ and Joe Lieberman as the Door Boy)

Rightwingers - Something must be wrong with your Philosophy. Not many people seems to care about you guys.