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Monday, June 23, 2008
Dick Morris and  Eileen McGann :: Townhall.com Columnist
Asking the Bombers to Try Again
by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
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In an ABC interview on Monday, Sen. Barack Obama urged us to go back to the era of criminal-justice prosecution of terror suspects, citing the successful efforts to imprison those who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993.

It was key to his attack on the Bush administration, which he charged, has "been willing to skirt basic protections that are in our Constitution . . . It is my firm belief that we can crack down on threats against the United States, but we can do so within the constraints of our Constitution. . .

"In previous terrorist attacks - for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in US prisons, incapacitated."

This is big - because that prosecution, and the ground rules for it, had more to do with our inability to avert 9/11 than any other single factor.

Because we treated the 1993 WTC bombing as simply a crime, our investigation was slow, sluggish and constrained by the need to acquire admissible evidence to convict the terrorists.

As a result, we didn't know that Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda were responsible for the attack until 1997 - too late for us to grab Osama when Sudan offered to send him to us in 1996. Clinton and National Security Adviser Sandy Berger turned down the offer, saying we had no grounds on which to hold him or to order his kidnapping or death.

Obama's embrace of the post-'93 approach shows a blindness to the key distinction that has kept us safe since 9/11 - the difference between prosecution and protection.

Pre-9/11, the priority was what it had always been - to identify the guilty, gather evidence to convict and punish them by imprisonment.

Post-9/11, the goal changed - now it's to identify and frustrate any and all pending terrorist attacks.

Should the effort to stop the attacks lead to arrests and provide enough admissible evidence to incarcerate or deport those responsible, fine. But gathering intelligence - not court-admissible evidence - lies at the core of the mission.

So when we found Jose Padilla - a terrorist planning to build a dirty bomb and explode it in a populated area - we couldn't prosecute him for his plans. We had the evidence, but it hadn't come to us in a form that made it admissible in a criminal court. So we prosecuted him on lesser charges of aiding terrorists by providing them with funds and supplies - something for which we had sufficient admissible evidence.

Would Obama require all our investigations to be conducted within the procedural framework needed to bring a criminal prosecution? That would slow our anti-terror efforts - fatally.

It has before. Following Obama's logic, Attorney General Janet Reno and her deputy, Jamie Gorelick, ruled that evidence seized in an immigration prosecution couldn't be turned over to intelligence operatives investigating terrorism.

The "Gorelick Wall" barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation.

He was taking flying lessons in Minneapolis at the time, so we wondered what he was up to. But we didn't look at his computer, and find the e-mail addresses and records of fund-transfers to each of the 9/11 hijackers - information that might well have prevented the attacks.

Our constitutional protections are wonderful and shouldn't be abridged on any account. But the protections in the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments relate to prosecution under criminal law.

Intelligence that doesn't lead to prosecution isn't covered. But Obama would cover it anyway. He'd require us all to proceed in the way we had to in the halcyon days after the 1993 World Trade Center bombing - procedures that led us to miss the point of what was going on, to fail to identify the real culprits until it was too late and left us unprepared for future attacks.

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Prosecuting Terrorists
How in do you prevent terrorism by prosecuting after the act has been commited? Besides ninety-nine percent are willing to die for Allah.Does Barako think we're completly ignorant?

Kyle
Most Republicans are going after Obama because he's an extreme left winger, and completely naive. Just off the top of my head, I'd be willing to bet the majority of Republicans would vote for a Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, J.C. Watts, Star Parker, Herman Cain, Ken Blackwell or Michael Steel without hesitation.

As far as any Iraq-9/11 link, I don't care exclusively about 9/11. This isn't, or shouldn't be, strictly about the attacks of 9/11, but rather the larger War on Terrorism. The late Saddam Hussein supported terrorism. He paid money to the families of murder bombers. I don't have any problem with fighting terrorism and its supporters anywhere we have to.

Conga
I am not a middle eastern, far from it, I am a republican and a conservative but I am not going to put a man down because he is black. I am only upset because I see how a majority white party is going after a good man for nothing more than the fact he is black.
Zionists are not a race of people. They are a group of ruthless, cunning murderers. This has no bearing on The Jewish religion, most Jews as in most Christians, Muslims and other followers of other religion are good people. People who wake up every morning to work to earn a living to feed survive and feed their families.
To say that all or the Majority of Muslims, Christians or Jews are bad people is simply wrong.
Many Americans sadly don't even know where Iraq is, they think Iraq bombed us on 9/11. The level of ignorance in our country is just mind boggeling, to say we are the super power in the world.
Republicans in general are supposed to be the educated wealthier smarter party (other than the few red neck grease monkeys who only say they are republicans so they can hold on to their guns yet have no clue what the republican party is all about), so if we are the smarter people why do we behave like such blood thirsty murderers every chance we get?

The Constitution
USMC#1,

We don't need to shelve the Constitution. Americans are entitled to these rights; it is what we are all about.

The US Constitution has only minimal application to non-Americans, especially when they are at war with us. We just need to return to what the founders intended.

Just let us operate as we did in WWII.

Kyle the Palestinian
Who said Palestinian was a slur. I was making an educated guess based on typical english language mistakes that seem to be common to certain nationalities. If you'd used the word "chap", I would have suspected British or a British colony.

Kyle, referring to the "He ain't from around these parts" comment, I never said you weren't good enough to be here. I was merely noting that your language pattern tends to indicate that you are not what you claim to be (a conservative American born Ron Paul supporter). I never even told you to crawl into a hole. Those were your words to someone else.

Kyle, this quote is priceless in it's irony. "you are using a race of people a slur. I would be very proud to be a Palestinian than a scumbag Zionist."

First, the more upset you get, the more your grammar declines in quality. Second, you infer, wrongly, that my use of the term Palestinian is a slur. Then you slur an entire group of people.

I have merely exposed your rhetorical hypocrisy for what it is. I have called attention to the fact that your pattern of grammatical mistakes is common to people from the middle eastern arab nations.

You, on the other hand, have cursed me, and accused me of hating people. Obviously you are the one that is full of hatred. You hate Zionists. You hate conservatives. I thought the "Pauly's" were all about a Love Revolution.

Second chance. Can you write the name Mohammad without the extra four letters?

Obama
is a good guy, regardless of what all the white racists and far right wing republicans say, he will win this ellection. I know a ton of moderate republicans who prefer him over that shriveling mummy McCain. Why would anyone in their right mind want us to plunge into another war is beyond any reason.
Our ecconomy is already in the toilet, our currency is wortless, thank you Bush and his supporters. Do you think we will ever recover a penny of all the money we spent in Iraq?
Do you know what this war is all about? It has nothing to do with 9/11, this war was planned for years before Bush stole the election in 2000.
I wished more people listened to Ron Paul, he is the man with the right idea, take care of America and stop worrying about the rest of the world.
We need to fix our own problems first before we spend 800 billion on a country that is opening saying they will not pay us back.

Cactus
Actualy I lived in regular neighborhoods in all those countries, I was never in any compound, that would have defeated the purpose of living in another country.
I never once heard or saw any hatered from arabs/muslims in those countries. Very helpful people. Did I go look for extremists? No I dont go looking for gangsters here either?
Our media only shows the worst they can about the middle east because its an Israel driven media. I went to Israel, I met the rudest people on earth, the Israelis were so rude and ignorant towards me and my wife it was a horrible visit. I was told by several Israelis that all their probelms are caused by the United States.
We ran into a lot of Palistinans in jeuresalem and they had nothing but kind words to say.
I just can't believe how closed minded you people are!!!

Conga
Quote Conga "As my good friends from the south say, "He ain't from around these parts.""

Anyone different or maybe does not know how to spell a word makes them outcast and not good enough for you, typical extremist you are, you are no different than those who support Bin Ladden, just a hater!

kyle
why do you think you deserve a pass for voicing your hatred but chastise others for not meeting your standards for bending over to make themselves available for various victim groups.

If you want to go down on others go ahead, that doesn't make you tolerant or more caring but rather just too stupid to understand the world.

Since americans tend to stay in american compounds I doubt you had any contact with islamists or those fostering hatred against all non believers.

parading ignorance and a naive understanding of the worldrenders you incapable of passing judgement on what you fail to understand

But do come back with more hatred and more posting concerning your ignorance of the world.

Conga
I am not a Palestinain, but call me that is not an insult, see this is exactly the filthy mentality people like you have, you are using a race of people a slur. I would be very proud to be a Palestinian than a scumbag Zionist.
Those mobs you see leaving a Mosque are nothing more than supporters of certain poilitical radical groups (not much different than the one you belong to)Chanting death to America.
I lived in Saudi, Qatar, Emirates and Syria and no one ever threatened me as an American or showed any hostility. If you ever leave your little hole and visit other countries you might actualy realise there are other civilized people out there.

A good idea
I think that it has reached the point where the Constitution should be shelved until we win the war against Islamists.
The Constitution is not a suicide pact, and it isn't 1776 anymore.
Things are different now.

Kyle the palestinian
Kyle said, "If you think every muslim out there hates christians then you are a really big moron..."

No Kyle, I don't think every muslim hates christians, it's just the ones in the gigantic mobs shouting "Death to America" after leaving mosque on Friday.

Interesting that I don't see videos of Jews leaving synagogue, or christians leaving church chanting "Death to Iran", or "Death to al Qaeda".

conga
I think your assessment was better than mine. Congrads on your perception

Kyle the Palestinian
He says, "If you think every muslim out there hates christians then you are a really big moron, I have many muslim friends that I have known for 20 years or more, non of them ever treated with anything but atmost respect."

Here is more evidence about Kyle. He has many muslim friends that he has known for 20 years. He still thinks that the term is "newnazi's." You living in Dearborn, MI Kyle?

Can you type Mohammad without putting letters behind his name? You better quit while you're behind Kyle. You don't even swear well in english. How's your farsi?

McVeigh
McDog,

McV was not a Christian & he did nothing for Christians except kill a few.

No Christians came to his defense. McV is where all murdering terrorists belong.

The same could be said about the Scottish people as well. They did not defend McV's actions.

McV's Christian sister testified against him.

m dogg
exactly what does a self hating jew know about christians. By your simple minded logic, muslims in every country in the world should hate all jews because of what israel has done.

Oh wait muslims already hate the jews. I guess you had beeter watch your back. Those peace loving muslims probably already have you targeted

Kyle - History Lesson
Moslem Arabs were allied with Hitler & the rest of the Nazis in WWII.

A well stocked Moslem library contains 3 books:
1. Koran
2. Mein Kamph
3. The Protocol of the Elders of Zion

cactushead and Retired Geek
I try not to feed the trolls. I know it's the best policy, but sometimes it's just obvious. His repeated use of "newnazi's" instead of the proper term (Can you guess what the right term is Kyle?) was another major clue.

As my good friends from the south say, "He ain't from around these parts."

kyle,
I think it is past time for mommy to put you into your crib for your nap. You are getting a bit testy and probably need your bottle as well

Retired Greek
here is another retard. You are asking if Jews and muslims can be partners and live in peace?

Jews live in many of the arab countries, own businesses and flourish very well amongst muslims. It is the god damn Zionists who caused the problem between the jews and muslims.
The jews and muslims lived in peace for 1300 years. Where did you grow up? In a barn? Why don't you go do some reading before you post your idiotic posts?
What is wrong with Obama wanting peace and harmoney with muslims?
If you think every muslim out there hates christians then you are a really big moron, I have many muslim friends that I have known for 20 years or more, non of them ever treated with anything but atmost respect.
They disagree with my on certain beliefs but that does not make me want to kill them, unlike the lot of you racist newnazis!

Lobotomy -boy
Don't talk to me about white sheets, the Klan was after my ancestors in the 1920s.

Obama, Hillary, Edwards, & the rest of the Dem losers, include those like Kerry, Kennedy, Feinstein, Reid, Boxer, .......

There is minimal difference between the lot of them & their polices. In the Oral Office, one would be just as big a disaster as the other. Skin color or sex or lack of sex is not a basis for my voting patters.

Commendations
Commendations to WiseGeek & CongaHands.

When did Khomeini make that comment.

I'm not at home & I can't recall a comment my by Khomeini in the 1940s. But it was still before the 1953 intervention in Iranian politics that we are blamed for.

The Big K in charge of Iran during WWII might have made a difference in the outcome. He has hated since a young age.

conmgas hands
kyle can't respond. he's at the skatepark with his fellow skateboarders

Conga Hands great post!
Keep on spreading truth!

Kyle
I think it's so cute how you accuse everyone else of hating.

Your first post:
"For the retard who..."
"People like you make me sick!"

Fourth post:
Calling people "newnazi's"

Fifth post:
Right wingers are all "newnazi's", are all crazy, and all genocidal. They just needed 9/11 as an excuse.

Sixth post:
You sad Cactushead is a sad excuse for a person.

Seventh post:
You posited that Tom fell on his head.
After misspelling affairs (affais) and school (schoold) in the previous two sentences, you said Tom sounded retarded.

Looks to me like your the hater around here. But whether your really a "Pauly" or just a lib pretending to not be one, you're acting like a typical liberal. When you are getting beaten in a debate, and you are, you start insulting the people you're debating. "Gee, I have no answer for that comment. I'll show him! I'll say he's stupid!!! That'll show him that he's wrong, even though I am not sure why." Or you can claim that it's a dumb argument without saying why.

I did think that this comment was really funny though.

"How dare you compare black slavery to American oppression of other countries?
The blacks did not come to Europe and American and meddle with their affais, for most of them they did not know we existed.
What kind of schoold did you go to man? You sound so retarded, I think you need to get yourself some education because you just made a royal a ss out of yourself."

Do you really think that Tom was saying that black people came here to oppress us?

Here's my hunch. The combination of your inability to spell, your amazing lack of knowledge of American history, your use of the word man, and your inability to construct proper sentences would seem to indicate that you are in reality from the middle east, probably palistinian, and attempting to have some influence over our political debate.

Nice try though.

Obama and Iran
“I am decisively announcing to the whole world that if the world-devourers [i.e., the infidel powers] wish to stand against our religion, we will stand against their whole world and will not cease until the annihilation of all them. Either we all become free, or we will go to the greater freedom which is martyrdom. Either we shake one another’s hands in joy at the victory of Islam in the world, or all of us will turn to eternal life and martyrdom. In both cases, victory and success are ours.”

–Ayatollah Khomeini

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What will Obama say in his opening line of negotiation - I am all ears?

Obama on Islam
"Islam can be compatible with the modern world. It can be a partner with the Christian & Jewish & Hindu & Buddhist faiths in trying to create a better world." Barak Obama 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008

compatible = capable of existing together in harmony.
Islam is a 700 AD religion and has NO rights for women.

partner = to join as a partner.
Islam and the Jewish religion partners?
================================================

Of all the things Obama has said this is by far the scariest.

Obama thinks Hamas and Iran can become partners with America and Israel?

“At the “World Without Zionism” conference held in Tehran in October 2005, as the crowd chanted “death to Israel, death to America, death to England,” the Iranian President Ahminajead said...with the help of the Almighty, we shall soon experience a world without America and Zionism, notwithstanding those who doubt.”

Obama is talking about negotiating with the madman from Iran who has stated in no uncertain terms that America and Israel will be destroyed im Ahminajeads lifetime?


Sermon quotes from Mentor Wright
Sermon quotes from Mentor Wright who Obama chose to perform the holy covenant between Obama and Michelle to baptize the Obama children and be his Mentor and spiritual guide.

"It is incontestable and deplorable that [African Americans] have committed crimes; but they are derivative crimes. They are born of the greater crimes of the white society."

"The question is not whether we will be extremist but what kind of extremist will we be."

"All of America's wealth today could not adequately compensate [African Americans] for [their] centuries of exploitation and humiliation."

"God didn't call American to do what she's doing in the world now. God didn't call America to engage in a senseless, unjust war... And we are criminals in that war. We have committed more war crimes almost than any other nation in the world and we won't stop because of our pride, our arrogance as a nation"

"I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the [inner cities] without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.



Obama's wisdom source

Fredrick Douglass & Booker T Washington knew that the only time Blacks progressed economically was when immigration was limited. Booker's most repeated speech was "Cast Down Your Bucket Where You Are". In it he called for limits on immigration.

Where did Obamination & Jesse get the idea that mass immigration certainly not from early Black leads, could help the US?

Obama and Qualifications
Obama supporters and apologists.

You don't want us to judge Obamas' worthiness to be POTUS by:

1) His associations.
2) His wife.
3) Radicals who are attracted to him.
4) What he says because he didn't mean what he said.
5) The fact that he has never done anything but vote present on difficult issues.
6) He doesn't like difficult issues to be asked of him in a debate.
7) He thinks his grandmother acts like a "typical white person" whatever that is.
8) He thinks white people in 'middle America' are bitter and hold onto God and guns to survive.
9) He chose a 'Mentor' who guided him and married he and his wife, baptized his children but has no idea what the Mentor believed.
10) Went to the 'million man march' but had no idea that Farrakhan was antisemitic or had been on the 'mother wheel' and talked to aliens.
11) Didn't know that James Cone and black liberation theology was the basis of Mentor Wrights' theology.
12) Thinks having a child is a 'penalty'.

If someone was considering voting for Obama what would you supporters say is a good reason.

Obama -> Cult
Obama in his self assumed role as 'messiah' and the 'Obamaites' who dutifully worship him all exhibit the properties of a cult.

Obamaites shout I love you and Obama shouts back, I love you too.

Obamaites faint in his prescence 'slain in the spirit' of the prophetic words he espouses.

Obamaites have sensual experiences - 'shivers' in their extremities and 'orgasmic' feelings in his prescence.

Obamaites chant until exhaustion "Yes We Can" and have cultic visions of 'Hope' and 'Change'.

One wonders when Obama will reveal the 'Mother Wheel' of Farrakhan and all the 'little wheels'.

WoW!

Obama and more Solutions
Hate mongers like Mentor Wright are nothing more than liberal evangelists preaching the liberal message of "god damn america" and its values.

Liberals are nothing more than intellectual terrorists. Liberal solutions are destroying more than just the black community.

deviate behaviour = normalcy
education = indoctrination
race relations = racial hatred
self determination = collectivisim
hard work = liberal handouts
results = intentions
character = moral equivalency

The "War on Poverty" is a liberal solution that has damaged more lives, spread more crime, destroyed more values, cost more money than anything else during my lifetime.

Liberals have already shown their skills in fighting wars during the 40 year 'War on Poverty'.

Obamination
Now is the time to introduce an newly coined word. Coined by a great philosopher who shall remain unnamed.

Obamination.

Obama and Wind Power
Obama and his supporters could never harness wind power for an alternate source.

None of them knows which way the wind is blowing.

Obama tough on Pork
Obama will demand that all pork products be banned from Supermarkets because it offends his Islamic Brethren.

Obama will demand that NO pork products be allowed in any government facility or school because of separation of 'Church and State'.

Obama will demand that no Restaurant will be allowed to cook pork products within one mile of any Islamic residence - because the smell is offensive to his brethren.

Obama will demand that all farmers who raise pigs must erect solid fences around their farms so his Islamic brethern will not have to see pigs which offends them.

Obama will demand that no pork products can be served during National Holidays like the 4th of July.

Obama in his 46 page 'Change for America' says he will expand hate crime speech - could mentioning pork be a criminal offense? or eating pork be a hate act? or walking a pet 'pygmy pig' where his Islamic brethern could see it be a hate act?

Obama will insist that the Arkansas Razorbacks change their names because it offends his Islamic brethern.

Hate crimes and Hate speech will certainly be a 'Change' for America - now Democrats chant altogether 'Yes We Can'.

More on the lobotomy.
Moslem Arabs began enslaving Blacks 900 years before the whites did and when the whites began enslaving Blacks, they bought them from Moslem Arab slave traders.

The weak immune system of the whites did not allow them to go inland in Africa & capture slaves. Moslem Arabs are still enslaving African Black; especially in the Sudan.

Had the Moslem Arabs not invaded Europe in 711 & began enslaving whites, we wouldn't have needed to return the favor & invade Africa & enslave some of it's people.

Obama and Doug Adams
Obama reminds me of two Doug Adams quotes.

"Please relax," said the voice pleasantly, like a stewardess in an airliner with only one wing and two engines, one of which is on fire, "you are perfectly safe."


"He attacked everything in life with a mix of extraordinary genius and naive incompetence, and it was often difficult to tell which was which."

Obamunism
The goal of a 'collectivist' like Obama and his supporter-apologists is unity at any cost - by coercion.

All groups, black or white - male or female different ethnic ancestries, different economic classes - are divided purposefully and then united by the 'common good' which is a collectivist society.

Collectivism has been called many names: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Nazism etc. but the differences are only in application not in core values.

The role of the individual citizen in the collectivist society is to surrender personal identity and self determination for the 'common good' of all - not through personal Altruism but the surrender of individualism to the state.

Wealth and property whether intellectual or real is commonly held for the 'common good' instead of individually held for the 'individual good'.

Collectivism doesn't work unless all citizens participate - this produces the dynamic of coericion which has killed more people than all of the wars in history - over 100,000,000 and counting.

Obama has a new version of the same old components - adding the religious component of all religions working together for unity.

Medical doctors who refuse to become part of 'Universal Healthcare' will apparently be the first casualties by losing their license to practice medicine - coercion by losing all they have studied and worked for - or working for the 'common good'.

Obama will call for all to surrender 'self' for the 'common good' or face the consequences.

Obama followers are chanting "Yes We Can" to their 'Hope' of 'Change We Can Believe In'.

Obama will bring unity by Obamunism no matter the cost!

Kyle & his lobotomy.
I said slavery & racial discrimination was wrong.

Islamic terrorism is wrong.

If Islam had stayed in Medina we would be near world peace. Remember, Mo was ran out of Mecca & he set a land speed record in saving his sorry arse. I'll save the litany of Islamic conquests for another time. Moslems have no right to the land Israel occupies.

Islam is at war with Animists, Buddhists, Christians (in Africa & Asia, not just the white ones), Hindus, of course the Jews, & other Moslems. If none of the above are present, they hone their murdering skills by conducting the Islamic high sacrament of an Honor Killing.

My education is just fine. It occurred at a time when history was not subject to political correctness nor approval by Islamic terrs (CAIR), and Moslem apologists.

kyle
perhaps when you graduate from middle school and have to get out in the real world you will have a better understanding of life. Typing from you bedroom while mommy washes your clothes and gives you your weekly allowance allows to think you understand the world.

But being a typical lib plant you agenda is to deflect and change the subject. Obviously you lack the comprehension skills to stay within the topic.

But where has anyone stated they hated b hussein. But what we do know is that b hussein's mentor/master was proficient at spreading hatred. And it is b hussein who claims anyone who attacks his positions is racist. Obviously you believe the same nonsense as he does.

But don't worry one day you might become an adult and mommy will force you to move out of her basement

Kyle
We "brought this on to ourselves", we "bully people, kill children, and support an outlaw regime like Israel...". You infer that we, as a country, have an active foreign policy that aggresively acts to prevent people from being able to "live in peace and pray anyway they can." I guess all that Hamas wants is peace and to be left alone, that the Iraqi people were happily thriving under the firm yet benign rule of Saddam Hussein, and that the Taliban are wise old sages who truly knew and wanted what was best for the Afghan people. All for naught due to our imperialistic meddling.

If you really believe your words above summarize the United States and truly cannot (or more likely simply refuse to) make any moral distinction between what we are about as a country (recognizing that we do often blunder and subsequently try to right things) and your posted comments as quoted above, that is sad. With all due respect, if I loathed my country as much as you do, I would have to leave.

Cactushead
Dude, you are a sad excuse for a person. Man, can't you stop the hatred just for a minute and open your eyes.
So what if his name is Barrack Hussein? Are we going to hate on anyone named Timothy now? Didn't a Republican Timothy blow up a federal building and kill a bunch of innocent people? How come we don't hate every McVeigh out there and kill every Scotish person as well, since he came from Scotish background then according to your logic all scotts are evil and must be exterminated.
Get a life.

To all ye Libs,
Please bear with me on this. It is not as it will seem.

ie: Obama, Hillary, Edwards, et al, supporters.

Especially those that believe we brought it (WTC '93 & '01) on ourselves.

Has anyone asked the Blacks why whites hated them so much that they enslaved them & discriminated against them? Did they bring slavery & discrimination upon themselves?

I doubt it.

Has anyone asked why men saw it as necessary to keep to keep barefoot, pregnant, & in the kitchen? Even after women entered the work force, why was a glass ceiling activated? What had women done to cause this?

I doubt it.

There is right & there is wrong in this world.
My 2 examples are both in the wrong category.

Islamic terrorism is also in the wrong category and one need not ask what did we do to cause this.

Islamic terrorism started in 632 AD when Mohammad sent the Islamic armies out to conquer the world. Same war, many battles, & many truces.
I am giving Mo the benefit of the doubt. Islamic started earlier than that, maybe about 627 AD, but I began counting when Islamic terrs started killing Christians & Jews outside of Saudia Arabia.

LOL MDoggg
That was hillarious "Kyle, Kyle, Kyle - don't be so naive - they didn't attack us for any of THOSE reasons - they attacked us because we're free! They attacked us because they worship death and they're the EVIL ONES..."

kyle
his name is barack hussein. Using b hussein is not racist. But you are obviously either very young or just plain stupid or another lib posing as a repub.

You are just another surrender monkey who thinks bending over for the terorists will keep you safe.

The only thing that will keep america safe is having a strong military that deters terrorists from further acts of barbarism. But you are another who cowers behind the protection of this country and hates those who keep you safe.

B hussein thinks his pedrsonality will make the world safer. That is naive and dangerous but you can't understand that either

MDoggg
Thats how those newnazis want to fight terrorism. Mass executions, and concntration camps. This is what the crazy right wingers and fox news wants. Genocide, it has nothing to do with terrorism, its how they are and their blood thirst have only manifested after 9/11

Naive huh?
Cactus Lover, You using "hussein" in your posts shows how racist you are. What you are saying in your little mark that every human with the name Hussein is evil and bad.
I am republican, but a real republican not a newnazi republican like you. I support Mr Ron Paul, not Obama, but Obama will be president whether you like it or not. It is time for the newnazis to step down. Time for you to crawl in your holes and sleep, when you wake up their will be a new peaceful, prospering America.

Obama is correct & Obama is incorrect.
We can deal with terrorists within the intent & meaning of the US Constitution and remain safe from attack.

Osama is not the first terrorist to threaten the US. Osama is not the first lunatic to declare war on the US.

All previous threats to the US were dealt with within the constraints of the US Constitution.

However, we have never guaranteed all the US Constitutional protections to those that threaten the US whether the represent a foreign govt or an Islamic terrorist organization.

As far as I am concerned terrorists should be protected only by the 8th Amendment to the Constitution.

One or the other
That's the attitude I see here. A president can use either the law-and-order approach or the military approach. It's inconceivable that someone would use a mix of both, emphasizing one or the other as the situation dictates. I might add, this would give much greater flexibility, which I seem to recall is an asset in wartime. Want to make your case? Show me Barack Obama saying he would never use the military option. Good luck with finding that quote.

I swear, Dick Morris gets stupider every time he writes.

kyle
parading your naive understanding of the world isn't going to impress anyone or win any arguments.

But it is the left and the lib trolls who are hung up about b husseins color. It is the only thing you are obscessed about. It seems that the left cannot fail to mention his color at every opportunity.

But that is easily explainable. His lack of experience and naive view of this country and the world will make america more vulnerable to attacks.

Libs have never understood it is the decent and humanitarian thing to stand up to dictators that presecute their own citizens. But then you are just typical of the thinking as long as we don't see the dictators killing thier own citizens we don't have concern ourselves about them being killed or brutalized.

B b hussein will not make the world a better place. Cozying up to dictators allows the dictators to think they can continue in the behavior


kyle,

you seem to be another of the delusional who thinks b hussein is running for class president and his big job is making sure the king and queen are properly crowned at the senior prom.

Exactly why are the libs so hung up on poplularity. I doubt that america has been very popular with parts of the world for the last 100 years.

Perhaps you can point out which countries are held in high regard by those terrorist countries in the middle east. Exactly which countries are admired by the tinpot dictators in africa and other parts of the world.

The UN is a private club for various third world dictators all in th pay of the oil sheiks and mad mullahs and no suffer from the delusion that america needs or wants to win a popularity contest.

Exactly how will being popular do anything. The UN already thinks america owes more wealth to them and the rest of the world, but turning to a failed organization that can't correct it's own corrupt infrastructure isn't going to make the world a safer and more happy place

Hey Bob
We brought this on to ourselves. As Ron Paul, the only true republican in our current government sated. WE BROUGHT IT ONTO OURSELVES.
We go to their countries, we meddle in their affairs, we stir up hatered amongst them then sell both sides weapons to kill each other.
That is not what our forefathers intended the American way to be.
You can't go bully people, kill their children and support an outlaw state like Israel and not expect retaliation. Bob, you are the one who needs to wake up. Not everyone in the world have to live the American way, people have the right to live in peace anyway they please and pray anyway they like.
If we could only focus on our own country and our own people and quit messing with other countries we will be a hell of a lot safer.
That is what Obama is going for! That makes more sense.

Not only that, Duke
But they violate all Geneva convention standards, deliberately target our innocent civilians and children, have openly declared war on us, and turn our own openness as a society and our criminal justice system on its head and use it as an offensive weapon against us - in our own country.

Libs, it is a WAR being waged against us that has been going on for years. It is not analogous to going after "for profit" operations like the Mafia in Brooklyn or even the drug lords. For me, 9-11 was the only wakeup call I needed. But sadly, many have fallen back asleep and many seem to prefer that we give all the benefit of any possible doubt to our sworn enemies, and ascribe only the most malign motives to our own country.

Is it better that hundreds of suicide bombers who would gladly strap a bomb to your child's chest go free as wolves to potentially blast to death millions of our families, friends and fellow Americans than one innocent suspect be jailed in an honest error?

Anthony
I think we need porn stars or movies stars who can't barely speak english and have Nazi relatives run for president. Is it not the Califoria way?
Why would we want to have someone who understands the law run for president? huh?

ex-Wyomingite
Thanks, I had a feeling you would enjoy that. :)

After the Fact Justice
It strikes me as extremely odd ( not really ) that no one in the MSM, or even Conservative pundits have pointed out the main flaw in Obama's premise. . . . that being that prosecuting the Terrorists after they have already killed U.S. Citizens isn't saving anyonw . . . but the Terrorists. How on earth can he believe that the Justice was served? Even in the 93 bombing, people died and costly damages were done. Why don't you ask the families of those that died in the 93 bombing if we did the right thing.

Obama is an idiot.

Also, I wholeheartedly agree. We need to get rid of the lawyers. Reminds me of a passage in Restaurant at the End of the Universe, where the The Golgafrinchans got rid of 1/3 of their population, if you're familiar with Douglass Adams, you'll understand, but if not .. . oh well, anyway, I wish we could get rid of lawyers and liberals the same way.

ab

stop asking them to try again Dick
Really... your headline says it all....you want them to try again. Stop it!

b hussein and his handling of terrorists
B hussein seems to think law enforcement and the lawyers will protect america from future attacks.

It seems he is so caught up in this messiah complex that he believes he is the person who will bring about world peace.

He suffers from the delusion that muslims despite all eveidence to the contrary are capable of living in peace with their neighbors.

The messages coming from europe where muslims are waging their invasion by showing up in large numbers and demanding europe change to accomodate them should be sending up warning flags.

But b hussein thinks that people who terroize their own citizens and send out terrorists to spread their message are now going to stop because he threatens to put them on trial and if found guilty sentence them to prison.

Golly gee, b hussein already makes me feel more protected and able to sleep soundly at night.

The laughter is the background is coming from the terrorists who are telling themselves they have already defeated b hussein and will continue to win their war

From the grave
Nikita Khrushchev will be pounding his shoe on a wall in hell while laughing hysterically on Nov. 4th because we will have buried ourselves!

Barako's Marxist Thinking
What Barako wants us to do is,let terrorist attack us then give them the chance to beat our justice system.THIS MAN IS OUR ENEMY!

Killing the Constitution
For the retard who wants to kill them all. Who do you want to kill exactly? Anyone who is not American, Christian or Jewish?
The Chinese don't like us, should we go ahead and kill them all?
The Brazilians hate us, should we go ahead and nuke them?
Or maybe we should kill all the Muslims in the world just to make sure non are terrorists.
The problem with America is we have people like this retard currently running the white house.
People like you make me sick!

Nobody wants..
to lose rights or privacy but I can see we have a real problem now. We have more ways to communicate now than ever before. Anything can be used as a tool to do harm to others. Think of a hammer. You can drive a nail in the wall or strike a human skull and kill someone. So what do we do now that we have the internet and cellular phones? How do we aquire intelligence of those who wish to do us harm? I don't have the answers but these are real problems and considering the fact we have these terrorist people all over the world we have to find some solutions to monitor for trouble before it's too late. Nobody wants another 9/11!

What did he know,and when did he know it
Hillary Clinton asked this question of George W.Bush after the 9/11 attack.She was trying to use reverse psychology,getting the liberal medias attention off the real person responsible her husband former president Bill Clinton.Obama uses the same method in avoiding the truth.Voters beware.

OBAMA--CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
The war we now have is HERE AND NOW. We have a Communist Running For President, and Nobody Is Taking Off The Gloves in Challengin This Poser, Obama. From his earliest training, he has been trained as a Communist. So, stop with the WWII and England, and all that. We have A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER FACING US NOW. Bomb Obama's Chances of Being Elected by EXPOSING THIS MONSTER'S PAST AND PRESENT IDEOLOGY. Obama is the most Clear and Present Danger we have. Then, begin Voting Out Every Congress Person Who Supported this Communist, because Birds of A Feather, and all that. Barach's church for 20 years run by Rev. Wright was mentor. Davis, a communist, was Barach's early childhood surrogate father and mentor. Muslim and Liberation Theology (Marxist) was Obama's early Influence. His support for UN and 850 Billion in giveaways are the programs he has sponsored in the Senate. His Early Political Prowess--Community Organizer in Chicago--Translated Marxist Race Hustling. Wake Up. Stay In The Here and Now Mr. Buchanan. You used to be listened to by Conservatives. Use your talents and Help Expose Obama..

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OBAMA, THE CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
The Clear and Present Danger for the United States is Obama. Should this Media Created Messiah and Communist be elected, look out America.

As for Obama being a lawyer?? Yeah, he is one of those Quota Enrolled Attorneys. That too, is dangerous, as he has credentials without the requisite intelligence and other qualifications to be an attorney. And, of course, as a Communist, he is promising even more give away programs.

Check out Obama's background and Communist roots, including his last 20 years in Rev. Wright's church teaching Marxism in the guise of Christianity.

As for Clinton Admin. and Bin Laden. During Clinton's reign of error, the CIA and military had Bin Laden targeted and ready to take him out, and Clinton called them off under the guise of "collateral damage to mosques, etc." What was his real motives for sparing Bin Laden? And Of Course, Can you or Do you Expect that Hussein Obama would go after a Muslim Terrorist? Don't think so. He and they, the Muslim Terrorists, have the same motives, Destruction of America as we know it. Communists and Radical Muslims have the same Plan--Destruction of The United States and Her Allies. Vote NO TO Obama. This is Imperative To Save America. Then, begin Voting Out Any and All Politicians at Every Level Of Government that supported this Communist, and Turn Off The TV, and stop being brainwashed by Obama Mania that the Liberal Media is Spewing 24-7. Obama is a Media Creation and He is Dangerous.

Suicidal old solutions to new problems
As usual Oblabla is flapping his lips to the rhythm of his teleprompter not making any sense whatsoever. But to his naïve followers every one of his read words are gems of incredible wisdom…ya right.

For a serious and pragmatic, as opposed to dogmatic, analysis of this subject why not refer to someone who lived through the trial of the 93 terrorists; Andrew McCarthy, the lead prosecutor, and see what he has to say on the subject. His latest book; Willful Blindness: Memoir of the Jihad gives a slightly different and more realistic look at the problem than the one of our lord the Great Messiah Obama.

Here is the link to an interview with McCarthy:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MjUwZjcwOWQ1NjUwNTBlYW JiYWFmMzdlNmYxYTQ1OGU=&w=MA==

Wanting to handle terrorists with our criminal system is as suicidal and stupid as basing our security with a nuclear Iran on the same MAD (mutual assured destruction) concept used in the Cold war with the USSR. The small difference between Iran and the USSR is that how ever twisted the old Commies were they wanted to live so MAD worked, but a fanatic brain washed clown like Amedinijhad is actually looking forward to die for his foolish Islamic cause. For him this is the perfect short cut to heaven and the only way to bring back the Mahdi – the Twelfth Imam who is presently waiting at the bottom of well in Iran for Amedinijhad to start the chaos. It is like telling a suicide bomber to drop his suicide belt or you will shoot him – the treat of death is obviously not the right one in this particular case. Different animals require different hunting techniques.

So in short you need to adapt your solutions to match the problems. That my friends is life; Adapt or die. Real life requires real solutions not Kumbaya Utopias a la Obama.

How do you try suicide bombers?
How does Obama propose we hunt down and prosecute people who are willing to die in the act of committing an attack? Will we be holding posthumous trials for these people?

And how much credibility does a guy working overtime to keep the FEC from enforcing the law have on legal issues anyway?

conservativeman
"If Senator Obama becomes President the only thing out of his mouth will be, "No you can't," because he is a lawyer and he expects everyone to see the world as he does".

Obama is a "Lawyer"? That explains a lot. It's not too late for the Clintons to have him snuffed like so many others that they didn't like!

That's one of the best I've ever heard!
"Predictable as the sunrise. Someday, little girl, you will at last get past those happy memories of how your thighs would tingle so when your professors would leer down at your cleavage and smile warmly at you when you parroted back their liberal bromides during class discussion. Reason and experience will replace all that rote learning and you’ll begin at last to sound mildly intelligent, rather than just a mawkish apparatchik robotically reciting the tiresome party line."

I love it - well worth repeating. I can't abide the plethora of erroneous opinion out there, courtesy of the nightly newspeak. Why do the coolaid drinkers keep on applying our constitution to people who are not Americans? They're not born here, they don't vote here (well, maybe for the Dems sometimes), they don't pay income taxes here, but somehow they get the rights of American citizens. Astounding!

One common denominator
After analyzing this whole situation I have come to the conclusion that there is one common denominator that is the root problem in fighting terrorism and that root problem is lawyers.
It is no secret that attorneys see and think of the world differently than the rest of us. Many in that profession will freely admit it.
Just look around us, our national energy policy is stopped dead in its tracks by whom? Lawyers, giving terrorists the rights that many Americans don't have again whom is responsible? Lawyers.
Lawyers have infested our society to the point of ineffectualism. It is getting to the point that the favorite phrase of attorneys is, "No, you can't do that."
No you can't drill for oil, no you can't build refineries, no you can't upgrade our electrical grid, No you can't build wind turbines here or there, No you can't build nuclear power plants, and no you can't go after the very people who have sworn that they will murder, maim, and wipe off the face of the earth every American that they can.
If Senator Obama becomes President the only thing out of his mouth will be, "No you can't," because he is a lawyer and he expects everyone to see the world as he does.

shilobus29
MOVE!

Kimberly
Are you really this stupid or are you merely playing an idiot? Bush is no genius, but if tricky dick clinton had been paying attention to the country and stopped letting a buncha dumb broads (like his wife, Janet "two guns" reno and jamie "I didn't do anything wrong" gore-lick) run the justice department maybe we woulda killed the terrorists instead a lettin' 3000 of our citizens get roasted.
I hope you live in the slums of New York or Washington - where the next big 'un will go off. Then maybe we'll realize you don't negotiate or put terrorists on trial. You kill them. ALL of them. And yes, I DO think we can do that.

In the event of a President Obama
is my location 100 miles from a major city good enough or should I move "somewhere in the middle of Montana"?

My 2 cents 2
Lets see...Live in an arid country with a couple of wives dressed in balck from head to toe~that smell worse than camels; barely have two sticks to rub together and the best that you can hope for is to blow yourself up.....or do life in jail with three meals a day, A/C, religious rights, free legal,education and medical benifits?

Seems like a no brainer to me....

Plus...doesn't anyone remember that old cow of a lawyer that was sneeking notes out for the blind sheik and his henchmen. Putting them in jail does not REALLY stop thier operation.

oops
Should have read "The success of the Bush administration in keeping them SAFE was the hand that rocked the cradle."

Uncle Max
The dems and the media have gently rocked the average beer and football voter back to sleep.
Most of them forgot the country needs defended.
The success of the Bush administration in keeping them asleep was the hand that rocked the cradle.
Crazy, no?

my 2 cents
It is my opinion that in this election as in EVERY national election the overriding issue is national security, and when I hope and pray that when the voters step into the privacy of the voting booth each of them will ask himself or herself - Who do I trust to defend this country?

Our Courts
"Because we treated the 1993 WTC bombing as simply a crime, our investigation was slow, sluggish and constrained by the need to acquire admissible evidence to convict the terrorists. "

Gosh, that pesky little requirement for admissible evidence. Our courts have successfully prosecuted criminals in cases involving national secrets- the Rosenberg trial for one. To imply that, after 200 years our system doesn't work is pure BS. There's nothing new about Islamic terrorism. It's organized crime with an ideological motive instead of one seeks profits.


Commonsense
If it weren't for the populace being doped up on Prozac and Reality TV, I think nobody would have a problem with the way the Bush administration is handling suspected terrorists. The community in America has been dismembered. That's why no one cares about 9-11 and possible future attacks. As long as it doesn't affect them on a personal level, most Americans remain in the selfish state of denial which they have been coaxed into by the debaucherous culture formed by the main stream media.



"Your Country is Dying from Political Correctness" http://www.FightPC.net

Kimberly
Yep, had President Bush focused solely on what was then a non-existant threat, one ignored by the entire Clinton administration everything would be different.

Not wishing to be offensive but I think you simply cannot think, or perhaps have a defect of memory.

Of course in hindsight other things could have been done. Sandy could have said, Bin Laden, bring him in, we'll read him his rights. And then his terror venture capital outfit would have been stopped in its tracks. So that would be Clinton's fault.

You forget also about what Saddam was doing before he was invaded. He was coining the UN Security Council. He had WMD's he was supposed to be paying reparations to Kuwait, instead he was spending his dosh on building crappy palaces. And killing Kurds by the droves. You think only American's are worthy of freedom and life?

Dick is on the money; here's something else that Obama doesn't know. That while in prison one of the World Trade Centre Bomber's stabbed a guard with a comb and dug out his eyeball.

In my opinion guys like that can't get dead enough fast enough.

So if Obama does get elected look for masses of capital to flee to freer more tax friendly relms and American's to be under attack in pizza parlors and golf clubs and at your friendly neighborhood oil facility.

Cheers,

Bloefeld

Question for B.O.
Exactly which of the 9-11 hijackers are you proposing we prosecute?

And do you really think the fear of prosecution will deter any future terrorists?

Thanks for that you two.
You said it.
Fatal is the word that applies here.
How can the western left, which BH Obama and Co. have become quite the caricatures of, fathom a military response to global jihad, espacially coming from those who so share their hatred of the modern west?
Bit of a fix there.
Is BHO not a marxist?
Does marxism not seek to bring it all down man?
The left does live largely for the destruction of the modern west, does it not?
How can they endorse a military response to those who really mean business in that regard?
How can they not?
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