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Tuesday, April 22, 2008
Dick Morris and  Eileen McGann :: Townhall.com Columnist
McCain Begins to Get It Right
by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
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John McCain built up massive popularity among American voters with his populist opposition to swindlers, liars and thieves, whether in business, Congress, labor or the defense community. His take-no-prisoners attitude toward corruption and his willingness to battle it wherever it crops up has made him an icon among our political leaders.

But in 2008, that John McCain has been under wraps as he catered to the Republican electorate.

Only the Arizona senator’s opposition to terrorism — to be sure, a real part of his agenda — was on display. His populism was anesthetized under a blanket of conformity and positive boosterism.

After he won the nomination, it seemed that he would continue fighting the Republican primaries forever. Bowing to the dictate to make peace with the fiscal conservatives who opposed him, he kept his sword sheathed and his mouth shut.

But this week, the old John McCain began to re-emerge. Articulating what tens of millions of Americans feel, he blamed the “greedy” of Wall Street for causing the current economic problems. He noted that it was their insatiable desire to get rich quick that led to the sub-prime frenzy that undermined sound economic growth and created a speculative bubble that had to burst. And he said that, as always, it is the little guy who will pay the price when a recession hits, while the greedy who caused it make out, well, like bandits.

This is precisely the kind of populist rhetoric that John McCain needs to embrace to have a chance to win the general election. He has got to draw a sharp distinction between himself and the stewards of Wall Street and side with Main Street in their battle against easy wealth and special privilege. By flanking the Democrats on the front of economic and social populism, McCain can be himself and can win.

Obama is making the social populist case against himself stronger with each passing day. His condemnation of small-town America and his elitist dismissal of religion, anti-immigration concerns and hunting as evidence of bitterness and the need for easy solutions was awful. Obama is, of course, right that trade protectionism and racial discrimination do, indeed, have their roots in bitterness and the need to scapegoat others for one’s own problems and shortcomings. But religion, concerns about immigration, and the sports of hunting and fishing hardly belong in the same category.

Through his own words, and those of his good reverend, Obama is painting himself into an Ivy League ghetto reminiscent of that which kept Mike Dukakis imprisoned for the campaign.

But it is up to McCain to carry the torch of economic populism. He should castigate those who are pocketing their winnings earned by inducing the poor to risk all on mortgages they couldn’t afford even as their unscrupulous practices have led the country to the brink of recession. He needs to take aim at credit card companies and student loan providers who are burdening our young families with debts that make it impossible for them to realize their dreams or to be the consumers we need them to be. He should go after the loose ethics of Congress, earmarking, and the plethora of abuses in our nation’s capital. He needs to resume his role as the leading opponent of Big Tobacco in Congress, warning about its tactics in luring millions of kids into lifetime addictions. He must demand that hedge fund entrepreneurs and other partnerships pay the same taxes as working people and end their special tax benefits.

Populism is neither left nor right. As a populist, McCain will bond with the average American opposing the elites that dominate the Democratic Party.

The real fissure in the Republican Party is not between centrists and conservatives. It is between the rich and the rest. The country-club Republicans, perpetually defending privilege, are out of sync with the American people. But McCain has always been in step with our priorities and it is refreshing to see him emerge anew onto the field of political battle. This John McCain, the populist defender of people against privilege, can win in 2008. The ever-so-cautious, watch-out-who-you-alienate Republican who won the primaries can’t.

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Dick Morris, a former political adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and President Bill Clinton, is the author of Condi vs. Hillary: The Next Great Presidential Race. To get all of Dick Morris’s and Eileen McGann’s columns for free by email, go to www.dickmorris.com
 
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Still A Lib
Morris does alright with his analysis - except when it comes to his facts.

Want to know where the REAL blame for the "housing bubble" lies?

http://www2.nysun.com/article/74903?page_no=1

...where these things ALWAYS start - government.

Mashkiki
Aren't you tired of choosing the lesser of evil? A Chinese proverb says that choosing the lesser of a selection of evils is still choosing evil.

John McCain is disloyal. He may not be an ideologue in the sense of Obama and Hillary, but in this case there isn't much of a difference. When the man is willing to work with the tyrants in order amass his own political power and further his agenda, nothing he says can be trusted, and it is clear that he understands NOTHING about America and the freedoms she stands for.

A disloyal man's efforts only work for your enemy.

Like Ann Coulter says, McCain is 71, he's not changing anything. He's a bitter old man who wants to be praised by the media as a maverick.

Why do I need to vote for him? Or anyone, for that matter? I may just write in Rush Limbaugh for President come November. I know he doesn't want to take the pay cut, but he has more principle in his little finger than John McCain, B. Hussein Obama, or Hillary Rodham have in their entire bodies.

Viruddh& mishikii
Viruddh I'm banking on her to win the nomination as she is the one that McCain can beat. With BHO you have too much shame voting.

Mishikii, do you honestly believe things will be better with LIB INC.? With either of them the taxes go up so high that you aren't going to have anything in your pocket.

Night all and God bless.

John McCain gets it right??

"Articulating what tens of millions of Americans feel, he blamed the “greedy” of Wall Street for causing the current economic problems."

Here I thought capitalism was good. I have something of value and someone else wants it. I sell; he buys; everybody is happy. Business is in the business to make a profit. That is normal; that is as it should be. Or so I thought.

Now, I find that the "greedy" of Wall Street as the cause of the current economic problems? This guy wants to be the leader of the free world?

Here is my take. The Government took America off the gold and silver standard so nothing backs our currency except what the FedBank says the money is worth. the Government made it illegal for Americans to own gold, as in coinage, other than collectors and speculators. So we are in free fall. Every now and then the FedBank raises interest rates to make it appear that the economy is growing while at the same time the Government is pushing our jobs overseas.

Our backbone, industry, has been gutted by the Geovernment and sent packing to China, N.Korea, Indonesia while our men are being retrained to serve burgers. Our Government is paying farmers to produce this crop or to NOT produce that crop.

Wall Street is responsible? No! The likes of John 'Open the Borders' McCain is responsible. And the rape will continue until the American people have been properly Socialized in preparation for total Communization. Yeah, let's hear it for McCain.


McCain's Getting it Right !!!
Oh you hope, you hope, you hope, you hope.

Who would have thought that you would still have
to battle Hillary this stage of the game.
Somehow she just won't go away, will she?

Well, good luck.

Mc Cain Finally Gets It ???
C'mon Morriss Mc Cain is campaigning for the White House and like all politicians will say and act in a manner that garners him the most votes. Remember George W. in 2004 ???
As for me I trust him not!!!

SteveL:
You are right. A large percentage of people would be willing to consider some form of amnesty - but ONLY if the border is sealed first. We don't want the rest in the South to believe that all they have to do is come here and we'll let them. So until the border is sealed, no amnesty. The last time we had an amnesty, during Clinton's term, there were three million. Now we have twenty million and rising, mostly due to the previous amnesty. We simply do not have enough room or jobs for more without putting our own people out.

And everyone don't start preaching about immigration being a part of this country. It certainly was a hundred years ago. We needed people. Now we have enough of our own.

For the RINOS

Does adopting Democrat positions on Taxes, Immigration, Gun Control, and Free Political Speech build the Republican Party brand? Do you believe that if Jerry Ford had been elected in 1976 that you would have ever had Ronald Reagan? McCain is a socialist, he means to punish the successful, silence conservative political speech, and disarm the American people. These actions are unacceptable from Democrats why should we accept them from the winner of a K Street contrived Republican primary. Reject McCain, vote Bob Barr.

Correction??
I meant swindlers in the previous note, but maybe swinglers is right too.

Swindlers, Liars, and Thieves
Do you mean we have people in congress who AREN'T swinglers, liars and thieves?

alisa, I understand your frustration
but, a "D" is still better than a "D-." The way I understand it, Obama wants to let illegals have driver's licenses and to let them get ahead in the line for citizenship of those who have been waiting for years. I don't think Hillary has decided yet what she wants to do with the driver's licenses, but I think she is in favor of letting illegals get ahead in the immigration line of those waiting legally.
I believe McCain has seen the uprising to his original proposal and backed off of it; he now says he wants to secure the border. Neither Obama or Hillary have addressed the border security at all to my knowledge. It's not perfect, but better.

Savage99 - Request Granted

You clearly belong with the esteemed side of this argument. One of the things that troubles me most is that there are so many very smart posters who, to paraphrase a cliche, "want to cut off Uncle Sam's nose to spite his face."

By the way, if you didn't notice it, check out My Man Jones' duplicate posts of 9:41 and 9:42 a.m. It probably won't convince you any more that I, mashkiki or others have been able to, but at least it's funny.

hsmith --
"Do you really think Obama or Hillary would be better than McCain on that issue?"

Actually, on http://www.numbersusa.com, McCain got six "abysmal" ratings to Clinton's "four." McAmnesty has managed to pull up his overall grade to "D" lately (by telling whatever whoppers the media and the populace like to hear), whereas the other two are tied at an honest D-minus. However, as the actual "comprehensive immigration reform" legislation of 2007 was coauthored by McCain, who tried to spirit it by the American people with double-secret meetings and ambush votes, that automatically knocks him down in my gradebook.

September12Republican
Kindly add my concurrance to the opinions of Redlac et al. You say my opinion aligns with Boutte or Kimberly. No. they want to see a D in the WH because they think then we will be in fat city, the economy cleaned up with more taxes, more entitlements and amnesty. I want to see a D in the white house because i think these things are on the way with McC in the WH, and i don't want the GOP blamed for the results. i see disaster, not fat city. As sorry as it is, in our 2 party system, the GOP is the only practical vehicle conservatives have right now. McC would render it impotent for a generation, as Hoover did when 1929 arrived.

Put away the magic crystal ball
If Obama or Clinton are elected, we can just bank on Republicans holding the line in the Senate? That's a risk I don't wish to take, but you can claim a victory because at least John McCain didn't get into office.

I love how so many people like to hypothesize about how the future will play out. Nobody knows how long someone's presidency will last, if they go two terms, or if the Republicans will lose, gain or hold steady in the Senate after their next elections. It is best to stop planning on what you expect will happen if you don't vote or choose to vote for a write in candidate.

This is an election and the stakes are too high to play around. The time for teaching the "party" a lesson has passed and now we have to make a decision that is best for the country and not just our conscience.

Never-Ending Quarrel

Redlac: Thanks for your 10:29 a.m. response.

You're in some very good company, by the way. I've had similar dialogues with each of Va. Patriot, Vic, BrianR and others. All smart and committed posters, and all with similar results -- none of us make any headway whatsoever in convincing the other.

Do be aware, however, that you're position also happens to be shared by some fairly awful company. I'd tend to think twice any time my opinion aligns with that of Boutte or Kimberly. Redlac, I know that you're not a disguised liberal, but you happen to be pulling the same oar as some of our liberal b.s. dispensers.

No McCain
I'd rather have the Obama or Clinton that this RINO.

At least the Republicans in Congress will oppose the Dem President. If McCain gets in he will be lurching across the aisle to his friends Kennedy, Schumer and Lieberman for policy and legislation.

Make no mistake. McCain isn't conservative. Given what he has been saying with his populist nonsense, he isn't that smart either. Another typical corrupt politician (Keating 5).

My man Jones,

maybe no one else appreciated your post, but I did!!! Very astute point made in a nutshell, I would say.

for Grumpy
Grumpy writes: "75 to 80 percent of the public screamed NO AMNESTY at the top of their lungs,"

FALSE. At least, that's NOT what Rasmussen's polling found.

Rasmussen polled voters with lots of different immigration scenarios to see what they would most prefer.

The scenario they would most prefer is to achieve total border enforcement first. And after that is done, the public WOULD consider a path to citizenship for those remaining illegal aliens who are already here.

"Amnesty never" was NOT the most preferred option.

The reason the public doesn't want amnesty now is that they don't believe the promises to seal the border. And they're right. Neither party really wants to seal the border, each for its own reasons.

So the public most hold their feet to the fire on that one.

for "not ashamed"
not ashamed writes: "Maybe next time the Republican primaries will be CLOSED to registered Republicans only."

That's IMPOSSIBLE.

In states that have crossover voting, it's mandated by state law, not by anything the parties say or do.

For example, New Hampshire state law allows anyone to vote in the primary of either party.

The only thing the GOP can do is refuse to seat a delegation at the convention that is elected by too many crossover votes. The Credentials Committee of the convention can deny the delegates passes to the convention.

But they can't BAN crossover voting because they don't run the primaries--the states do.

For those worried about the border
Do you really think Obama or Hillary would be better than McCain on that issue? He has at least said that the border should be made secure and employers should be held responsible for infractions when they hire illegals. That is more than Obama and Hillary have said.

jcdean --
"No other issue is more important right now, not even the war on terror." Actually, border security IS the war on terror. With a sieve for a border, no country is secure against terrorists.

please....
you people will fall for anything and stand for nothing. Getting it right.....did he take a homestudy course in the enemies of Iraq?

America is a joke, and the entire world is laughing, including your President Bush at you.

Populism is not necessarily good
How sweet. Lil' Dickie Morris, one of Waco Willie's old political advisors, heard from. He kept working for him after the Waco massacre, so we know what place principle has for Dick. He's a typical ideologically amoral strategy wonk.

"John McCain built up massive popularity among American voters with his populist opposition to swindlers, liars and thieves, whether in business, Congress, labor or the defense community. "

"massive popularity," heh. So why does he now need conservatives to abandon principle & support his rigged candidacy?

He's in bed with some of the biggest swindlers & liars out there: the greencommies with their "climate change" dogma, & their stooges the "cap & trade" advocates.

Furthermore, he has directly & blatantly attacked one of the greatest Constitutional remedies & weapons against corruption & political lies: freedom of speech, the press, & to petition for redress of grievances.

Dickie Toe-man Morris is advocating the lowest, cheapest, sleaziest kind of "populism:" blind class envy. The government coerced the banks into making these bad loans in order to meet their unstated racial quota re the Community Reinvestment Act. Neither Dickie nor Johnny are pointing the finger at that law & the bureaucrats & mau-mauing activists using it.

Where did this this "get rich quick" mindset in investment & corporate governance come from? Why so little regard to the long term, & such dislike of career leadership, long-term investment & steady returns over time? IMO it is primarily because investments can & are nowadays so easily confiscated or legally hijacked, thru laws & lawsuits, that no one is confident a long term investment will stay viable.

Optimism?
Optimism? McCain’s Resume Speaks for itself.
Anyone who expects a 75 year old skunk to be anything but a 75 year old skunk has journeyed beyond optimism to the realm of delusion.
Reject McCain, vote Bob Barr!

Conservative Optimism?
As conservatives, many of us are pleased to find that generally those who hold our beliefs tend to be more hopeful and optimistic. When I read this thread of comments, I grow hesitant to believe that such is true. Although, discourse is healthy, when I read such despair, resignation and doom, I begin to wonder if it is a liberal thinker that has entered the discussion.

To paraphrase Ho Chi Minh

Better a four year whiff of the Obomination than an eight year diet of “compassionate socialism”. Make no mistake this election’s menu of candidates has been subtly engineered to advance the Progressive Agenda. The U.S. has fallen behind the Europeans in the destruction of our culture and lifestyle. We have to catch up. What better way than through ministrations of a “moderate bipartisan” administration. Senile John as the power top and fight’n Joe as the power bottom, working together on common sense solutions to end rampant individualism and economic self reliance. Reject McCain, vote Bob Barr.

Win/win vs populist blame
The trouble with fanning the flames of us vs them populism is that it is often wrong and so accomplishes nothing. Win/win is a more enlightened model.
Just as others have said how law led to the subprime meltdown, so also have government policies mandated and subsidized rising college and medical costs.
You have to attack the drivers of cost increases, not just the lenders. They could, for instance revise that law that requires ER's to take all comers so that it only applies to life threatening emergencies. Let the illegals pay to see docs before they remit billions home.
As for straight talk. I do admire McCain for defending free trade in Ohio, yesterday.

McCain getting it right?
Obama lost yesterday in Pen. and received about 1,000,000 votes. McCain won on his side with about 500,000 votes. Hmmmm.....

McCain is the presumptive nominee and still only got about 70% of the republican votes, almost 30% or half of the votes were against the nominee, I think McCain has problems.

What Morris doesn't get, is we vote based on principal. I know how McCain votes based on the past and I won't forget it based on any 'trendy' analysis. Most conservatives feel the same way. That's why Morris is wasted on conservatives and needs to go back to the liberal side of the political spectrum where he has more impact on the numbers. That's also why McCain can lie and spin all he wants on border's and enforcement. We see the kind of staffers he hires and realize it means more than the air blowing past his lips.

Pilgrim
"C'mon, people, you can't deport millions of law-abiding people for no reason, after we tacitly let them come here!"

What part of ILLEGAL ALIEN do you not understand!?! You make it sound as if these people are just normal citizens trying we want to kick out. No, these are CRIMINALS that their very first act was to break out laws when coming here. Each and every one of them in a criminal.

In the 80's there were many who were opposed to what Ron did but we did not have the information on just how much of a burden to our Republic these people had become... and NOW WE KNOW!

We know that these people are costing us Billions of $$$ in social services. We know that not only do they break the law entering the US but many continue to break the laws once they are here. We know they are taking jobs away from honest Americans including LEGAL immigrants. We know as bad as what was done in the 80's, doing it again now would be 10x worse.

We don't need a fence. All we need to do is enforce the laws we have and most of them will deport themselves. Go after the people who house and employee the illegals. Deny them any social benifits from health services, welfare, schooling, to even a darn libray card.

A Nation without borders is no nation at all. Every single country in the world knows this. No other issue is more important right now, not even the war on terror. The very existence of our Republic is at stake.

Political Statements are Empty
YOU THINK JOHN MCCAIN DOESN'T REPRESENT YOUR CORE BELIEFS ENOUGH, BUT YOU'LL RISK A TRIED AND TRUE SOCIALIST TO RUN THIS COUNTRY?

I am absolutely stunned at this "throw the baby out with the bath water" attitude. Make a proper political statement by getting involved in local politics or by supporting state and local politicians who BEST represent you. I know that I do not stand alone in the belief that sometimes you may not get exactly what you want in life, but you don't throw in the towel and just say "I give up". Would such defeatist attitudes be present in the most courageous of our Founding Fathers when so much was against their founding of this nation? Did they fold their arms across their chest and say, "Fine, I'm going back to England"? So the candidate of your choosing didn't get the most votes, move on and make the best of it. We are whimping out when we "take our ball home and say we are going to play unless you play my way". There is simply too much to lose.

If the Senate leans left today and the Presidency goes to a man or woman who holds Socialist views, non-voting conservatives will have themselves to blame for what befalls this nation and I will be pointing a finger in your general direction as well.

Please value what we were given. We have a responsibility to do what is best for our country. Perfection is rarely attainable.

I hope McCain's campaign
reads this and heeds your advice. It is exactly what a republican candidate needs to do!


September 12 Republican
If the result of this election is to force the GOP to retrench and reconnect to the values that put it into power, and then threw away, I think it will have been a very successful election. The damage done by Obama or Clinton, will be neither as substantial nor as great as you claim, and will have been well worth the vote. After all - what is that damage? Federal spending between 00 and 09 increased from $1.88 to $3.25 trillion. I doubt that they'll beat that record. The issue of health care will come to the table in one form or another no matter who is President, because costs have risen 77% in 7 years. If we don't get those costs in line with increases in income - no politician will resist the pressure - anymore than Bush did. On tax cuts, McCains firm, (or now says so), whereas Obama and Clinton are maybe's (all based on "stimulating" the economy). On the border - they all have the same track record. The elites of both parties will do nothing. McCain is strong on Iraq - Clinton and Obama are not as strong. But that could well change as no president will want a disaster on their hands. Your claims of great changes have no real basis. The GOP has moved to the left, and wants the same thing the Democrats want. No candidate talks about cutting spending (other than earmarks which are 5% of the deficits - big deal). None talk about the expanding balance of payments deficits, high chronic budget deficits, an increasingly weak currency, nor rising entitlement costs, and all sound alike when talking about energy, global warming, the border, and foreign policy (with the exception of Iraq). At the end of the day, they are US Senators, and have voted together on far more issues than they have been separated on. Then, I imagine, it comes down to the court. On the court, people have hopes with McCain, but no certainity, whereas with Obama/Clinton, they have certainity. And that, is about it.


BHO Has Political E.D.
Electile Dysfunction. He can't close the deal as was seen in the PA primary.

Sub-Prime
"...he blamed the “greedy” of Wall Street for causing the current economic problems. He noted that it was their insatiable desire to get rich quick that led to the sub-prime frenzy that undermined sound economic growth and created a speculative bubble that had to burst."

How was it in the interest of lenders to lend money to people who could not repay? They had to, by the insistance of our 'leaders', in order to stay in business.

What role did McCain play in this process? Did he oppose congressional actions that fostered this type of lending in the name of 'the American dream'?

Hitler had the Jews; our politicians seem to have theirs too, only they call them greedy businessmen.


You got it right, Dick
The Republican party has been losing ground for a long time with the average voter; this is the year they can gain ground. Most people in this country are socially conservative, but middle-class. These, among others, are the Reagan-Democrats and the middle-class social conservatives who have been loyal to the Republicans because of social issues, and they will go to Hillary if McCain doesn't tap into their real world. The elitiest will not rule the day in November; the man or woman who understands the effect of $4.00 a gallon gasoline will.

This is exactly why he'll lose
Conservatives, Republicans, and Libertarians understand that it is government, not Wall Street, that continues to interfere with the economy. The mortgage "crisis" is a correction to an attempt by government to artificially control the housing market. And it blew up in their faces, not that they'll ever admit their role in the mess; now they want to bail out the "victims" with more of our money. A pox on all their houses.

McCain is showing his ignorance of economics with statements like those cited above. Obama or Hillary supporters are not going to vote for McCain, and if he stays on this track, neither are republicans. Morris' record in forecasting the primaries has been spotty at best, and I think he's dead wrong on this point. But I don't think McCain can undo the damage at this stage of the game. His only hope is that Obama and Hillary continue to tear each other to pieces and he continues to keep his mouth shut.

In the meantime, Bob Barr is getting serious about the Libertarian nomination. Check 'em out:

http://www.bobbarr2008.com/

http://www.lp.org/

John McCain reaches out to Republicans….
and tells them to accept high taxes, love 35 million illegals, and give up their guns. The power elites that have never worried about their kids being assaulted in public school, losing their home to property taxes or having their job shipped to India have engineered their dream Presidential race. Heads they win, tails working class and middle class Americans lose. A McCain/Lieberman ticket (yes I said fighting Joe) is intended to move the Progressive agenda further down the road. The order of March is to wipe out the middle class, disenfranchise the people who built this country, and rob them of the means to resist. Conservatives can stand up and save their country or submit and sell their descendents into socialist slavery. Vote Bob Barr!!!

Sure Dick, Eileen!
"But this week, the old John McCain began to re-emerge. Articulating what tens of millions of Americans feel, he blamed the “greedy” of Wall Street for causing the current economic problems. He noted that it was their insatiable desire to get rich quick that led to the sub-prime frenzy that undermined sound economic growth and created a speculative bubble that had to burst."

Unlike McCain and other politicians of course whose retirement funds they don't contribute a penny and which are paid for by our tax dollars, and as they make backroom deals of sorts, natually having nothing to do with lining THEIR own pockets or anyhing and harming the people in any way or anything, right.

No sale!

we are so beat
three democrats are running for president. not a republican to be found. the only difference is that McLame is a 60's vintage Democrat, Obama is the 21st version with the Marxist implant.

Our choices are do you want it to bad or real extra crispy bad.

We allowed the conservative vote to be split, and we did not find a candidate who was worth a tinker's damn. therefore we got beat, because we are beat

Wafinder: DO NOT BUY UNLESS IT SATISFIES

Don't vote for McCain. Don't vote for anyone who does not earn your vote.

For now, votes are still the currency of elections.

You do not buy products you do not want simply because they are better compared to others you do not want. Why should you vote for candidates you do not want simply because they might -- emphasis on *might* -- be better than other candidates you do not want.

Companies know that they must *satisfy* me before I will buy their product. If there is no product that satisfies my requirements, I do not buy it.

If I was as stupid in using my dollars as I have been in using my votes for the past 20 years, I would be surrounded by mediocre, broken-down products with nothing worth buying on the store shelf just like what our elections have become.

In a free market (which McCain/Obama/Clinton are and will do everything in their power to abolish) vendors eventually emerge to make a pitch for your dollar.

We need to teach politicians that they must do the same by weaning them off of the unearned votes we have been giving them. We have been foolishly rewarding mediocrity and dissatisfication.

No one has yet provided a convincing argument for voting for a candidate that does not satisfy. The record shows that when we vote for an unsatisfactory candidate, the next election ALWAYS offers up a MORE unsatisfactory candidate until we end up with a positively revolting candidate like McCain.

End vote-spending stupidity!

DO NOT BUY UNLESS IT SATISFIES!

Please define "greedy".

Dick, if you can tell us exactly where the line is between making too much and making just enough, I will personally dedicate every moment of my life to getting John McCain elected and to have you appointed to the new cabinet post of "Greed Tzar".

This article is perfidy itself.

I have no doubt McCain will do as Morris suggests. McCain knows he can screw conservatives because they have shown what serfs of the Republican Party they are.

Repub conservatives will dutifully -- and for the third time in 20 years -- hold their noses and vote for McCain because they Elephant will say, "Do you really want a President Clinton again?" and "Sure he's a stinker, but his stench reeks slightly less than the odor steaming up from the other stooges."

I voted for Bush I and he grew government and let Saddam go. I voted for Bush II and he grew government more than any other president in history, let in 20 million illegal, diseased, criminal and anti-America Mexicans, kowtowed to the religion of Environmentalism, did nothing to unshackle oil companies to build desparately needed refineries and oil wells and appears to be committed to the delusion that Medieval Muslims in the Middle East will embrace capitalism and democracy when their made-up Sharia "law" bars them from lending or borrowing capital or respecting business contracts (which is why you will never see "Made in [insert name of Muslim-controlled country here]" and which is why they will forever be nomadic camel jockeys or oil pimps.

No more.

From now on, my vote stays with me until someone steps forward to earn it.

And Dick, we need your advice like we need need a hole in our heads.

The steady decline
There is nothing John McCain can say or do that would make me vote for him. Like Thomas Sowell, only Obama or Hillary can make me vote for McCain. But even then, I can't bring myself to do it. I just can't.

Because John McCain is so wrong on so many critical issues facing our country that it's scary. What's more, the man is no leader. Being contumatious is not leadership.

His stance on illegal immigration is baffling. What does he hope to achieve with amnesty? Unfortunately, nobody will ask that question to him, least of all the mainstream media. And McCain doesn't have to appease conservatives at all because he's fully aware that it's likely that conservatives won't be a major source of his votes.

John McCain's 71. If he survives the next four years as president, he may run again to drive out the conservatives from the GOP, especially since McCain/Feingold effectively ensconces incumbants into power.

Makes you want to ask the terrorists to nuke Washington, D.C. At least then we might see power return to the states again.

Local
Support your State Government offices, conservative all the way. It's more important now than ever. With these choices for POTUS we have to be steadfast. Virginia Patriot, I am with ya all the way on this one as well as on immigration issues. We cannot let this country go!

Didn't
someone point out that the banks were in a corner, darned if they did, darned if they didn't because the Congress mandated they make these stupid loans? Not that they aren't partly to blame, but there is a lot going around and when you get right down to it, 99.99% of our current problems are right from Capitol Hill.
Dick should have been honest and pointed out that
it isn't just the wall street tycoons making big bucks, but the elected kinglets have done well for themselves with their salaries for life pensions, yearly raises grandfathered in so no one has to vote for or agin, cadillac health care that's better than our wounded get, lobbyists handing walking around money and of course following the pensioned retirements, jobs
in lobbying firms to influence other kinglets.
So it's a lot of pot calling kettle black.

McCain move to the left even more?
I do believe Popsicle Toes is doing fifth column work in this column.
"This is precisely the kind of populist rhetoric that John McCain needs to embrace to have a chance to win the general election. He has got to draw a sharp distinction between himself and the stewards of Wall Street and side with Main Street in their battle against easy wealth and special privilege."

Let me tell you, Dick, I'm no where near the income level of the stewards of Wall Street, but I am Main Street, and am glad that the Wall Street types have been able to make a fortune despite the liberal government policies.
For that very reason, I would have liked it if McCain had been more to the right; when he slides to the left (populist to you), he loses my vote even more.

If he slides any more to the populist position, you can be sure I won't be the only erstwhile Republican writing in "Ron Paul" in the general election.

Advocating that McCain move left to win is a way too obvious ploy by a Dem operative.

hey
any conservatives want to see hal backed into a corner...check out Pragers column...it is simply great how I disproved him...its pretty much at the bottom

What they say in Denmark
--> "We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even
> bothering to hold an election.
>
> On one side, you have a witch who is a lawyer, married to a
> lawyer . . . and a lawyer who is married to a witch who is a
> lawyer.
>
> On the other side, you have a war hero married to a good
> looking woman with big knockers who owns a beer
> distributorship.
>
> Is there a contest here?"

What they say in Denmark
--> "We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even
> bothering to hold an election.
>
> On one side, you have a witch who is a lawyer, married to a
> lawyer . . . and a lawyer who is married to a witch who is a
> lawyer.
>
> On the other side, you have a war hero married to a good
> looking woman with big knockers who owns a beer
> distributorship.
>
> Is there a contest here?"

Virginia Patriot
Right on. Only enforcement of existing law means doodly. Fence, reform, new programs, worker cards.....all meaningless without enforcement. Nobody who gives a bit should forget this.

James
McCain has said absolutely nothing about enforcement. His line is "Secure the borders first", trying to fool people into believing there would be enforcement. He never says what comes after "Secure the borders first", but we can guess. Amnesty.

The plan is to get the border state Gov's (who are all conveniently on board the cheap labor express) to declare the border secure and then do amnesty. There will be no enforcement.

GG-AZ
Perhaps you'd like to bring back the poll tax, too? Or limit voting to White land owners? Perhaps "persons of color" would only receive 3/5 of a vote? Seems like some folks should go back and read some of the things Reagan actually wrote, and said, instead of co-opting "conservatism" into something it isn't. Reagan, and real conservatives, believe in a level playing field, not one covered with land mines. Caveat Emptor is not conservatism, that's simply another form of oppression. Why not repeal the Sherman Act?

You can criticize George W. Bush all you want, but he did win re-election with the biggest margin in over a half century, the US President has to govern from the middle, you can't just deport the center and center-left. You can't just govern from the extreme right. And you certainly can't govern from the extreme left, which is where we're headed if McCain doesn't get elected, and the Dems retain control of Congress and buy even more State Legislatures with George Soros' and the ChiCom's money.

So, you'd rather lose it all than take any victory you can? Fine. Just don't invoke the Name of Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan did what was right for America. Not just what was Right.

Redlac - 7:08 and 7:10 posts

You ask a fair question: "Tell me something my friend. Are you "for" him, as in enthusiastic? Or are you for him, because it's all you've got - because the general public gave him to you?"

It's the latter. I favored Mitt, back when we had a choice.

You also, intentionally or not, put your finger on the McCain habit that annoys me most. I cannot stand when he refers to me (and everyone else) as his friend. He's not my friend and I'm not his.

But what I am is an American citizen, one who cares a great deal about this great nation (notwithstanding your little swipe that "people like [me]" are somehow responsible for "centralized increasingly heavily regulated socialized welfare state that has substituted government for individual initiative.")

You can do with your vote what you wish, and go to bed feeling so much more noble than everyone else. If that's what your "principles" tell you is the right thing to do, go ahead and throw your vote away.

But if you do, Redlac, I hope you have the grace not to then later complain about the damage done to our society by the Obama administration.

Condascending?
Morris and McGann (why does it take two people to write one short column?) are just as condascending as Obama, if not more so. Taking advantage of the "poor?" "Poor" people that own $250,000 homes, two cars, and an LCD TV?

If McCain is a Rino, and Reagan was the second coming, why did Reagan sign the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 and grant amnesty to 2.7 million people? C'mon, people, you can't deport millions of law-abiding people for no reason, after we tacitly let them come here! Seriously, you can't turn a blind eye to it for two decades, then suddenly say it's a huge problem.

Unfortunately, Hispanics and others who have come to the US in the past two decades are being treated just like the Irish and Chinese were a century ago. Since the US has not had a coherent immigration policy for 50 years, how do any of you expect them to "immigrate?"

Read this article http://online.wsj.com/article/SB114773982558453625.html?mo d=todays_us_opinion that busts the Reagan would have been against immigration myth.

McCain's stated positions about immigration are the same as Reagans. Deal with it.

not ashamed to be right
You've hit upon the key reform -- make the Republican nominating process open to Republicans only.

I think it needs to be made even more difficult, to prevent last-minute changes of registration. Something like:

(1) Grandfather in those who have been registered as Republicans for 4 straight years;

(2) To become eligible as a new Republican primary voter, you must either

(a) Maintain a Republican registration for 4 straight years; or

(b) Maintain a Republican registration for 3 straight years and contribute $500 to the RNC; or

(c) Maintain an Republican registration for 2 straight years and contribute $1,000 to the RNC; or

(d) Maintain a Republican registration for 1 year and contribute $2,000 to the RNC.


Redlac and K.G.
I can't disagree much with your complaints about our choices, but it's not a recent thing. Were Clinton/Dole and Bush/Clinton/Perot any better?

In fact, have we had any good choices since WWII other than Reagan and Goldwater?

Loser
McCain is a loser just like you Morris. I hope the people at townhall can now see you for what you really are with this liberal POS article.


Throw away your vote?
What else does one do with something useless? 75 to 80 percent of the public screamed NO AMNESTY at the top of their lungs, and yet BOTH parties will run pro-amnesty candidates. Does that sound like your vote actually matters?


not ashamed
I don't worry so much about the maliciousness of crossover voters in Republican primaries as I do the media. At some point, the American electorate is going to need to set this entity straight. If they continue to act as advocates for political candidates or causes and pursue political activism, they should lose their media credentials. I know, I can hope.

As for Dick Morris, "say good night Dick."

Cont'd.
Look at these weak justifictions most people throw out. "He/She's not perfect (Love that one)". "They've all got warts (better get some treatment)"It's the system (as in it's not his/her fault)". "He finished 3rd from the bottom of his class but he "got smarter". "There are many things I don't agree with, but..", he's better than the other guy on some level (just let me think about how low that level is so I can tell you where the bar is)". Look at how hard "supporters" have to work at it.

Tell me something my friend. Are you "for" him, as in enthusiastic? Or are you for him, because it's all you've got - because the general public gave him to you?

Off the deep end
Dick Morris is here...McCain is getting it *right* with a populist message?!?! That's the most ridiculous premise I've heard floated since James Carville called Bill Clinton "the most moral man in America."

The only thing Mr Hussein-Obama has going for him is a vapid substance-free populist message. If McCain follows the route of populism, the only thing THAT will guarantee is that there will be an election between a baby populist and an ancient populist...and McCain will get slaughtered.

McCain is already a Democrat in elephant's clothing, lets not erase the only real line distinguishing him from BHO...other than age.

Please Mr Morris, stick to psycho-analysis (read: critiquing the Clintons) and leave the suggestions to McCain to those who might have at least a passing familiarity with republican ideals.

September 12 Republican
I don't wallow in despair, I simply understand the steady march of the public into this centralized increasingly heavily regulated socialized welfare state that has substituted government for individual initiative - at the behest and with the support of people like yourself. Every election - partisans say the same things, and every election, government grows, expands, and increasingly occupies the space once given to the states under the republican form of government that we no longer pursue. I do very well by manipulating this world - but I don't fool myself into believing that it isn't what it is. Not one of these self appointed leaders has at any time been given any meaningful responsibility that would remotely suggest that those they've worked with or served with recognized any particular leadership nor organizational abilities. They are creatures of a system that has abandoned the republic that my ancestors fought in every war for, including myself in the last one, merely because we have decided to export our sovreignity and import our dependency. Direct democracies are not republics. Direct rule does little more than reinforce mediocrity given that mediocrity is what elects them in the first place. If you have principles, you will throw your vote away given the matter in which you think. Until enough people stop voting the short term and vote those principles, they are absolutely meaningless.

James,
"Maybe next time people will vote their conscience in the primary and not who they think will win."

No. Maybe next time the Republican primaries will be CLOSED to registered Republicans only.
And this means not allowing people to change party affiliation shortly before or on the day of the primary. Secondly, maybe Republican primaries in actual conservative states will be held before those in liberal states. Preferably having ALL states vote on the same day which would stop "primary games" from being played (and cut the media off at its knees.)

James, it's LOSE not "loose"
You and too many others make this mistake of typing "loose" when they mean "lose."

"Lose" is a verb, and "loose" is an adjective meaning "not tight."

Once a RINO always a RINO
Republican in Name Only (RINO). I think the term was invented for people like McCain.

Dick, you're one of the most interesting liberal pundants out there. I don't often agree with you save for some keen insights into the Clintons. Still your thoughts have been insightful and make or useful debates. I wish more people on the left were like this. Having said that, I think you're off on at least one part of your article. This is one that usually escapes the left.

The divide that McCain introduced to the GOP is an idealogical one. McCain is simply not conservative on most issues conservatives hold dear.

My memory isn't so short that I don't remember him sponsoring the amnesty bill (yes, that is what it was) with Ted Kennedy. Agreeing with Ted Kennedy on anything should raise a big red flag with conservatives. And now all of a sudden he's an "enforcement first" conservative? It is more likely he is simply lying.

I think a McCain presidency wouldn't be much of an improvement over either of the two democratic candidates. I held my nose and voted for GW. I won't do that again. The only way to get me to the polls is for a real conservative to be running. They don't have to be another Ronald Reagan (yes Dick I know you're cringing at the allusion to Reagan). Any old Fred Thompson or Duncan Hunter would have done. But what good does it do the GOP to win the presidency if our guy votes with the liberals? I refuse to compromise again.

There is a train wreck coming with this next presidency. Let the Democrats have it and blame them. Maybe next time people will vote their conscience in the primary and not who they think will win. What good does it do to gain the entire world if you loose your soul?


September12Republican
As long as Juan Hernandez is on his campaign, with his "Mexico First" agenda, I'll have a hard time believing Mccain is anything but an amnesty advocate. His own state has taken action because the federal gov't (of which he is part) has been AWOL. Enforcement is working. If McCain came out for the SAVE Act, worked now for enforcement, he could get my vote. Without enforcement laws are worthless.

I also think a Democrat amnesty will be easier to oppose than a McCain amnesty. We have less chance of keeping GOP votes against a President McCain. The numbers are on our side, the power and money are not.


Mr. Morris, PLEASE go back
to being a shill for the Democrats. Oops, I almost forgot. McCain IS a Democrat! Oh, now that helps to explain this column.

Populism is not the answer. It may be, however, what sheep blindly follow on the way to voting booth.

Redlac
Well said.

You gotta know who you're mad at. It's the old "consent of the governed" thang. We can demonize the candidates, but the real idiots are the people willing to vote for them.

That's where Virginia Patriot is coming from, I think. He just can't bring himself to get in line with the idiots.

Until we can find a candidate with his/her head on straight and able to articulate to the masses in a convincing way, we will be forced to put up with the likes with Bush/Gore-Bush/Kerry-McCain/Obama.

My guy was Mitt, but apparently too many people couldn't see a "stiff" North Eastern Mormon who hadn't been a uber-conservative since Adam.

We are held hostage by idiots, my friend. Whether God can help us, I do not know. I believe he will just let us live with the fruits of our stupid choices.

Wallowing in Despair

Redlac,I don't see our future as bleakly as you do, but for discussion purposes let's say it is.

So what are you going to do about it? You can load up on guns and ammunition (it will make you feel better, and help our economy). You can join the Minutemen (worthy cause, and it looks like some incredibly beautiful country you guys have in AZ). You can post all sorts of "the-world-is-coming-to-an-end" opinions on Townhall.com.

But it is asinine for you to suggest that others should throw away their votes because you're so unhappy with the choices. That, to me, sounds like a liberal ploy. I ain't buying it.

Some Future.
I don't deal on faith which it comes to politics - that belongs solely in a different realm. McCain has learned nothing on amnesty that he is willing to commit to legislation, which as a US Senator, he's perfectly positioned to do. He is, in fact, comfortably in line with what he anticipates he will do if elected. He ran the legislation twice, and as a Senator from Arizona, he has done absolutely nothing that would cause someone from this state to believe otherwise. You won't get open borders - you already have them. And for that, you can thank McCain and his followers. We've already, further, had 8 years of socialist crap thrown at us. How else can one explain an increase in the federal budget from $1.88 trillion to $3.25 trillion between 00 and 09?

What an election. Those that talk about one is better than the other - or at least we'll go to hell in the proverbial hand-basket slower with one than the other, are simply confirming what we already know - which is that these three Senators have no business being nominated for President - let alone elected. What has transpired is to take the worst of all options, and offer them up as the best. I don't fear for the country because of these three particular lightweights, I fear for this country because the public actually takes them seriously - and actually expects anyone with a modicum of common sense to vote for them. Following behind Bush-Kerry and Bush-Gore, the trends seem clear.

If this is the future, then God Help Us.

Why hide it?
Virginia Patriot writes: If you didn't know, Morris has been for amnesty. So is McCain. Still is, regardless of his attempts to hide it right now.

PW: Say it isn't so! Not AMNESTY!

The hardened criminals who cross our borders to pick fruit, scrub toilets and tend our yards to feed their families should be ruthlessly prosecuted and imprisoned before being deported.

Anybody who opposes deportation should be forced to have dinner with Lou Dobbs.

Talk about torture.


Give me a break
So it's the fault of credit card companies and student loan providers that "young families" are "burdened" with debt? And this prevents them from being "the consumers we need them to be"?

This is economic nonsense. Doesn't Mr. Morris realize that the alternative is that the heads of these "young families" would never have received a college education? Or that the credit card debt has allowed these people to be the "consumers we need them to be" over the past several years?

It can actually be economically sensible for a young adult to take out student loans for an education, and incur consumer debt to finance a higher standard of living, in the expectation of higher earnings in the future. I was one of them a few years back. Populist foolishness will deprive them of this choice, harming both their current standard of living and future earnings potential.


In addition, BOAF has

confirmed that his policies grow out of the far left by the friends he has chosen.

"BOAF" Obama is

to the left of HRC on taxation, immigration, government growth, the WOT, the Battle for Iraq, keeping abortion legal, assisting the radical homosexual agenda, and advancing gun control.

HRC is to the left of McCain on all of these issues.

That alone should tell anyone who is not a far left marxist who will best serve our country as POTUS.

V.P. - Thanks for the New Message

(Although I would much prefer to NEVER again have to deal with a mental picture of a toe-sucking Dick Morris.)

You are a committed advocate, and I respect your views. Let me ask you a pragmatic question.

Taking as a given that McCain favors some form of amnesty, are you not still better off voting for him rather than for a third-party candidate? Joe Oliva is not going to win a single presidential elector. Nor, for that matter, will either Ron Paul, Bob Barr or any other conservative-minded candidate who runs a third-party campaign.

Notwithstanding the brilliance of all the committed conservatives posters on this site, you just don't have the ear of the American public. If you did, John McCain wouldn't be the GOP nominee (blame the MSM, blame the crossover Democrat voters, blame the pathetic American education system, blame whatever -- the votes for your viewpoint are just not there).

Yeah, that really sucks. But what will you do about it? Do you really want to throw your vote away on a third-party candidate, and thereby elect either Obama or Hillary? I can't imagine that you do.

Our nation is remarkably strong, and can survive 4 years of an awful lot of socialist nonsense. But, to point out your pet issue, can we survive 4 years of totally open boarders? That's what we'll surely get with either Obama or Hillary.

At least with McCain, you can hope he learned something from the humiliating defeat of his amnesty proposal.

No, VP--a vote for Obama is a vote for
"surrender of your country."

Did you read about Obama's (and the Obama 13) sponsorship of the Global Poverty Act--which would give taxing authority (SOVEREIGNTY) over the U.S. to the likes of the U.N.?

McCain will not by any means be a perfect President, but the election of either Obama or Hillary will be an utter *disaster* for this Nation.

Don't Forget, Dick Sucks Toes
No mention of amnesty. Hmmmm.
If you didn't know, Morris has been for amnesty. So is McCain. Still is, regardless of his attempts to hide it right now.


McCain keeps saying "Secure the border first". We know that he means amnesty next. The plan is to get the border state Gov's to declare the border secure. Conveniently, they are all on board the cheap labor express. Then his good friend Ted Kennedy will bring back McCain/Kennedy and McCain can provide his good friends across the aisle with their new permanent majority.

I will not vote for amnesty.


http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/03/28/b loggers_press_mccain_adviser_on_immigration
“John McCain’s position on immigration is very clear and this a question that gets asked at townhall appearances everyday in media appearances and has answered the question at least a thousand times before the New Hampshire primary,” Schmidt said.

He explained, “Any person who supports John McCain’s campaigns is a subscriber to John McCain’s views"

A vote for McCain is a vote for surrender of your country.
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