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Tuesday, May 26, 2009
Dennis Prager :: Townhall.com Columnist
President Has “More Effective” Method to Get Intel from Terrorists – What Is It?
by Dennis Prager
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In his latest address – on Guantanamo detainees – President Obama said something of extraordinary importance that seems to have been missed by the media:

“I know some have argued that brutal methods like water-boarding were necessary to keep us safe. I could not disagree more…I reject the assertion that these are the most effective means of interrogation.”

As this President chooses his words carefully, these claims need to be understood.

Note that Mr. Obama did not say what nearly all opponents of water-boarding say – that water-boarding is not an effective method of extracting reliable, life-saving, information. He took no issue with former Vice-President Dick Cheney’s claims that water-boarding or “enhanced interrogation” saved American and other lives. Indeed, he clearly leaves open the possibility, even the likelihood, that this claim is accurate. Rather, what he says is that “methods like water-boarding were not necessary to keep us safe” – not necessary, not ineffective. And why does he believe this? Because they are not “the most effective means of interrogation.”

In other words, the President’s view seems to be that water-boarding the three terrorists did elicit vital, life-saving, information. However, he contends that we could have obtained all that information using means of interrogation that were both non-brutal and more effective.

I pray the President is right. I would love America to be able to say “America never uses brutal methods of interrogation, let alone tortures” while simultaneously obtaining information it needs from captured terrorists to save thousands of innocent people from death and maiming.

But if in fact, these methods exist, they have never been revealed. President Obama needs to share this discovery with the American people, or, if they must be state secrets, with a select few individuals from Congress and the intelligence community.

It is as if the President, or anyone else, announced that brutal methods of combating cancer like chemotherapy and radiation were “not the most effective means” of combating cancer – and then refused to say what non-brutal means were more effective. Continued...

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Dennis Prager is a radio show host, contributing columnist for Townhall.com, and author of 4 books including Happiness Is a Serious Problem: A Human Nature Repair Manual.
 
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Torture works
The "torture doesn't work" refrain is true if you are looking for long term general background type information. Under physical torture people will just keep giving information real true untrue ridiculous whatever. They will say whatever they think the torturer wants to hear, along with offering to perform any acts that he/she may want them to, sexual, killing someone, killing themselves etc. All that is irrelevant to the case at hand. One of the people waterboarded TOLD interrogators actually more like BRAGGED about upcoming attacks. When asked for details he said, paraphrasing here "you'll find out, chump". Bad move. When specific information is wanted and that information can be CHECKED then the subject will give the information. Remember he will say ANYTHING to make actual physical torture stop. If he knows you are going to confirm his statements then only the truth will make him stop.
If anyone doubts this I suggest they hide something, say a metal box containing their car and house keys, and see how long they keep that knowledge secret while they are being working over with a red hot poker. Since, PLEASE this is just a mental experiment don't try it at home, the torture will continue until someone goes and recovers said box, make sure you hide it close by, OK?
In this case the location of confederates and papers and laptops and computer codes and email addresses and passwords could and would be verified good information would be obtained. Were they going after general info about how many Al Quaeda people there are or what the subject did 3 years before etc they would just get crap or not, but could never tell. See how that works now? Torture or waterboarding has limited usefulness but in some specific cases it works fine.

Obama is a liar
and a charlatan and a Chicago gangster thug. There are no more effective methods of getting information from terrorists hell-bent on killing us, and we know this because these methods worked.
Prager is right...tell us O, just what other methods are you talking about, or is this just another empty sound byte with you looking oh so stupid from one teleprompter to another.
And while you're at it, you liar, release your actual birth certificate so we can get you out of the WH and restore democracy to our republic.
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