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Tuesday, March 17, 2009
Dennis Prager :: Townhall.com Columnist
Brilliance is Overrated
by Dennis Prager
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I have met very few parents or grandparents who have not characterized at least one of their offspring as “extremely bright” or even “brilliant” – usually beginning at the age of 2. The emphasis on the importance of the intellect is greater than ever.

That is why people were persuande into having their babies listen to Mozart after it was reported that listening to Mozart -- even in utero -- would make babies smarter. As an occasional orchestra conductor, I am delighted when anyone of any age is exposed to classical music. But love of music was not an issue here -- the Mozart-for-babies craze was about love of brains, not love of music. Likewise, those who can afford to do so vie with one another to have their children admitted to prestigious preschools and elementary schools.

This preoccupation with brains and intellectual attainment extends into adulthood. Most Americans upon hearing that someone has attended Harvard University assumes that this person is not only smarter than most other people but is actually a more impressive person. That is why, for example, people assume that a Nobel laureate in physics has something particularly intelligent to say about social policy. In fact, there is no reason at all to assume that a Nobel physicist has more insight into health care issues or capital punishment than a high school physics teacher, let alone more insight than a moral theologian. But people, especially the highly educated, do think so. That’s why one frequently sees ads advocating some political position signed by Nobel laureates.

Intellectuals, e.g., those with graduate degrees, have among the worst, if not the worst, records on the great moral issues of the past century. Intellectuals such as the widely adulated French intellectual Jean Paul Sartre were far more likely than hardhats to admire butchers of humanity like Stalin and Mao. But this has had no impact on most people’s adulation of the intellect and intellectuals.

So, too, the current economic decline was brought about in large measure by people in the financial sector widely regarded as “brilliant.” Of course, it turns out that many of them were either dummies, amoral, incompetent, or all three.

The adulation of the intellect is one reason President George W. Bush was so reviled by the intellectual class. He didn’t speak like an intellectual (even though he graduated from Yale) and for that reason was widely dismissed as a dummy (though he is, in fact, very bright). On the other hand, Barack Obama speaks like the college professor he was and thereby seduces the adulators of the intellect the moment he opens his mouth. Yet, it is he, not George W. Bush, who nearly always travels with teleprompters to deliver even the briefest remarks. And compared to George W. Bush on many important issues, his talks are superficial -- as reading, as opposed to hearing, them easily reveals.

Take, for example, one of the most complex and compelling moral issues of our time -- embryonic stem cell research. This is an excellent area for comparison since both presidents delivered major addresses on the exact same subject.

Charles Krauthammer of the Washington Post has compared the two speeches. He has particular credibility on this score because he is a scientist (he has a medical degree from Harvard Medical School), a moralist, and has special interest in stem cell’s possibilities because he is a paraplegic from a diving accident. And, as he points out, “I am not religious. I do not believe that personhood is conferred upon conception.”

Krauthammer’s verdict?

“Bush's nationally televised stem cell speech was the most morally serious address on medical ethics ever given by an American president. It was so scrupulous in presenting the best case for both his view and the contrary view that until the last few minutes, the listener had no idea where Bush would come out.”

“Obama's address was morally unserious in the extreme. It was populated, as his didactic discourses always are, with a forest of straw men.”

“Unlike Bush, who painstakingly explained the balance of ethical and scientific goods he was trying to achieve, Obama did not even pretend to make the case why some practices are morally permissible and others not.”

In a similar manner, I devoted two columns to analyzing Barack Obama’s widely hailed speech in Berlin when he was a candidate for president. I found it to be both vacuous and, to use Krauthammer’s words, “morally unserious in the extreme.”

But Obama sounds intelligent. As indeed he is.

The reason we have too few solutions to the problems that confront people -- in their personal lives as well as in the political realm -- is almost entirely due to a lack of common sense, psychological impediments to clear thinking, a perverse value system, to a lack of self-control, or all four. It is almost never due to a lack of brainpower. On the contrary, the smartest and the best educated frequently make things worse.

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common sense
is lost.

If most people in this Country had some common sense or were at least raised by someone with some common sense we would not be in this mess and the Congress and the Senate would not have any of the bozos that are there now.

Intellect without wisdom
Dennis has once again hit a bulleye. The Third Reich was supported by scientists, jurists, professors, musicians, artists and politicians, all of whom were well educated. The supporters of Karl Marx are among the most educated people in our country, yet they ignore the disaster of the application of Marx's theory in Russia and China, just to name a couple of countries that murdered their populations. Intellect without wisdom is useless.

Superiority Complex
The superiority complex and attitude of the "intellectuals" is very tiresome.

Better to read his speeches
I've found that it is much better to read President Obama's speeches (or any politician's speeches for that matter) than it is to hear them. I can do a better job of analysis, and am much less likely to read into them what I want to hear. However, they would much rather that you listen to them, since one can often be carried away from the emotion, and miss the logical flaws in the message.

Same arrogance
is not only on display with BO, but with many CEO's. Great piece Dennis.
I personally worked for a company that allowed Ivy League MBA's to take over and destroy its 130 year legacy of quality products. These smug punks did great powerpoints but had zero common sense and lacked simple decency.

Amen Dennis!
Can anyone in this country who has spent any amount of time reflecting on the abortion issue state without reservation that abortion on demand does not present serious ethical questions? Yet in the cause of "protecting the mother's health" Obama and planned parenthood call any attempt to rein in their practices an invasion of privacy and their right to choose.


A large majority of Americans would state that a person who killed an unborn infant who was 8 1/2 months into gestation would be guilty of some type of murder. To make the assertion that when a expectant mother chooses an abortion at the same stage calls for a judgement beyoud his pay grade shows Obama to be an amoral man who can only pay homage to the left wing of the abortion industry!

Any man who calls Rev Wright his pastor and mentor for over 20 years is seriously lacking in character, judgement and morals. Why McCain was so lame as to say we have nothing to fear from this low life becoming president is beyond comprehension!!!


Has Obama ever in his life choosen to associate with someone of high moral character? Did he pick his wife on the basis of character or on gaining cred in the hood for marrying a disciple of Rev Wright? When Bill Cosby called out the black community on drugs, single parenthood, hate for education etc was Obama at his side?

BTW: Dennis wasn't the Duke university faculty a prime example of the blind immorality of our brightist when they convicted the lacrosse team of rape without a trial. The lemming like mindset of the left wing nuts at our universities almost goes without saying! Being a conservative at a university takes courage and an open mind!

What does "brilliance" mean?
I think Dennis misses a point here. He says "brilliance is overrated", but doesn't act as if he believes that in the case of Charles Krauthammer.

Some people think a person is "brilliant" if he has a high numerical score in a test (IQ, SAT, GRE) or has a credential from a prestigious institution (Yale, Harvard). Such a person is expected to be brilliant, regardless of his or her actual performance.

Then, you have people who are thought brilliant because they say and do brilliant things.

Brilliance is one of those things you have to judge by someone's track record, not his or her paperwork.

Obama's brilliance is paperwork (and excellent oratory), and is overrated. Krauthammer's brilliance is based on his track record, and is not.

Dennis risks painting with a broad brush, and painting over critical distinctions.

The Brilliance of "The One"
The great intellect of our Dear Leader was especially apparent earlier today when he said,
"We are gonna do some stuff about that."

As the media constantly reminds us, we are so lucky to have a president with such brilliant oratory skills.

anti-intellectualism at its worst

Prager's article is a gross oversimplification. Without a doubt, the various cognitive components of higher intelligence (e.g., greater working memory capacity) will prove helpful across many different situations.

Obviously, a good education, experience, and resulting knowledge are also important. But in general, the more intelligent the person is, the more they can do with that education/knowledge.

It's extremely depressing to see this type of anti-intellectual, anti-science, anti-education propaganda ruining people in this country.








Doc Liberty on Dr. Douglas the phony
The Dr. Douglas PSA
Once again, I observe several TH posters have responded to Dr. Douglas. Thus, it's time once again for The Dr. Douglas Public Service Announcement:

Dr. Douglas once posted that his own university, Oregon State, was too poor to hire teaching assistants. In fact, as I learned in 5 minutes on the OSU website, OSU does indeed hire TAs. They also recognize and negotiate with the TAs collective bargaining unit. And OSU has a special award to recognize excellence among TAs.

I just want to remind everyone who's done Dr. D the courtesy of responding to him that the man is either a hopeless ignoramus, a pathological liar, an utter fool, or some combination of all 3.

The preceding was a public service announcement courtesy of Doc Liberty. As always, we thank you for your support.

No, thank you Doc Liberty!

The reality of Dr. Douglas
Dr. Douglas is despised, even among his own peers. Noted academics are writing about the Dr. Douglas mental health issues, so called professionals like hm have wrought on society, here is an excerpt:


"The author's frustrations with the politicalization and lost direction of the psychology profession are rather obvious. Wright and Cummings stunning collection of essays help explain how the psychology professions destructive trends in mental health has hurt, rather than helped the psychology profession's present image. The contributors to Destructive Trends in Mental Health help expose the irony of the psychology's pathological liberal direction"

Liberal= Dr. Douglas, poster child example.. He owes society an apology.

Character of GW
I believe G W Bush has more decency, graciousness, class, honesty, integrity and common sense in one bowel movement that B.O. and Ranger Robbie have in their entire organism and a lifetime of living.

Intellectual Barbarians
Dr. Douglas is a perfect illustration of Prager's thesis. Highly educated, obviously, but bereft of commonsense. I go back to Joe the Plumber who, while every intellectual in academia and the media was praising Candidate Obama, skewered him with one question that revealed his true intentions: to redistribute wealth. Lest we forget, when the Soviet Union collapsed American intellectual Marxists retreated to academia and the poison they emit helped to mold our current president.

Huh?
Dear Mr. Prager,
You still insist upon calling President Infanticide "intelligent." Wrong choice of words: BSing, calculating, cunning, smooth. Those are not the same thing as "intelligent."

Obama's proven that he's an empty suit - and you make a point I've been making for a long time: read his words, don't listen to them. They read like something a high schooler might say at graduation.

That's what I did with President Bush: I read his words. Very clear, well crafted. A tidy, well-organized mind. Sometimes wrong - (who isn't?) - but possessing the ability to weigh complex issues and to distill them.

Compare that to the messiah, who has a cage full of demented mice for a brain. You could sum up the little man's entire being in these words:

"He doesn't know what he doesn't know."

More's the peril.

Amen, brother
About time. Brillian article.

Intellect without meaning
Right, As a person of above average intelligence, I can tell you it is a serious handicap. A learning disability, if you will. It took most of my adult life to come to terms with, and control my almost usless intellect and make it good for something. Playing games is what people like us do because our thought processes are different. Becoming a Christian was a turning point for mye because it was no longer all about me and my abilities to play mind games.I truly did not know. Now Obama claims to be a "Christian" but...probably it is a mental thing rather than a heart/life-changing relationship. It is so true, he doesn't know what he doesn't know. He thinks because he won, and he "CAN" that it is alright to do what every runs thru his self-centered brain. Pray a lot.

Intelligence vs. Wisdom,
Intelligence, raw brainpower, has its uses. I know this well being in possession of a genius IQ. But intelligence is a mere tool to be used -- for good or for ill. A person's intelligence says nothing about their character or their judgment.

Wisdom, however, is critical for success in life.

Intellect enables a person to follow an intricate chain of reasoning through to the end regardless of what that end may be. Wisdom stops and asks to what end we wish to travel and redirects intelligence into paths more productive of that end.

Intelligence is most useful when harnessed as Wisdom's tool and narrowly applied to a specific task. Like money, intelligence is a good tool but a poor master.

Oddly, nerdy gaming geeks recognize this instinctively by separating the characteristics of wisdom and intelligence when creating their fantasy characters. Strange how sophisticated and cosmopolitan "elites" rarely manage that distinction.

Oh so true
I am currently working on a doctoral degree and I will not finish it. I am completely fed up with the neo-Marxist slant placed on every social issue and the elitist mentality of those in academia who proclaim to be objective, yet refuse to consider any traditional or conservative perspective. I recently challenged the system in a social theory class where we discuss theoretical perspectives on democratic and free-market society. I asked why we study all of the critical theorists/political thinkers, but not those such as Thomas Jefferson or Alexander Hamilton since their perspectives were instrumental in the formation of the system we are studying. He laughed. My cohort acted as if I was off my rocker. I have heard professors talk about how they rejected articles during peer-review due to the political or policy stance, not the quality of the content. I have decided to be happy with my master's degree and go find a real career, whatever that may be.

Let me be clear. Academia, particularly in the social sciences, is primarily a collection of ultra-liberal retro-hippies who whole-heartedly believe that their neo-Marxist views are the only viable way to "fix" our social problems. They are teaching our kids this same view and they are too lazy or apathetic to realize there is any alternative. I teach a class and know this first hand.

Good for you Robert!
Robert, I admire your decision to discontinue your pursuit of a PhD. It is a decision that takes courage, and all too often I've seen people continue with their PhD just because they did not want the embarrassment of telling others. I did finish my PhD (I'm not in the humanities, but the physical sciences), but still noticed the prevalence of collectivist group-think, rabid anti-Americanism and anti-semitism. My decision was not to continue in academia, but return to the private sector after a PhD.

I believe you will be rewarded by your decision with a career that will ultimately pay more, one that will let give you the time to raise a family (free from the pressures of tenure), one that will let you develop (or continue to develop) skills useful to mankind (that incidentally will ultimately result in greater job security than academia could ever provide).

Best wishes for the future Robert.

On The Mark
Many years ago I sat across a pair of desks from a guy who had four degrees. He was no good at what he was being paid for and I suppose someone had to tie his shoes.

BA, MA and others
As my late husband used to say about people with all kinds of degrees, " all those those and .99 will buy you a cup of coffee." He obviously was no genius, but he had a great deal of common sense, which seems to be in short supply today in Washington, especially in the White House.


Ivy League

Ivy League students are either smarter than other people or an affirmative action quota.

Until O-Liza Doolittle opens his school records for public scrutiny, I know which camp I'M putting him in.

Brilliance IS overrated
Obama is an intelligent man, no doubt. So is Bill Clinton. So is George W. Bush. Dennis Prager is very intelligent, as are Doctors Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, and Michael Adams. David Broder, Thomas Friedman, and Nicholas Kristol are highly intelligent. Historically, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Alexander Hamilton were extremely intelligent. On the other hand, so were Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler.

The point is that an individual's intelligence or brilliance mean nothing if that individual starts with an incorrect or morally wrong precept. I believe the greatest example of this in history is Ptolemy. Ptolemy was the greatest thinker of his day, especially among the hard scientists. He was the man who was able to map the universe and explain such oddities of celstial motion as the retrograde movement of planets across the sky. To this day, astronomers use Ptolemy's principles to predict eclipses and other phenomena.

The only thing is, Ptolemy got it wrong. His map of the universe is incorrect. And it's all because he started with the assumption that earth is the center of the universe and all the celestial bodies move around it/us.

So, Obama may be brilliant, but he starts with incorrect and morally wrong assumptions, and is doomed to come to incorrect and morally wrong conclusions, no matter how much he thinks about things, Wobbie.

Smart?
Other than getting libidiots and some moderates to vote for him,what has nobama ever done to show that he is smart?I`m not even sure if can tie his shoe strings on the first try in the morning.I always get it by the second try at least.

#1
When did "moralist" begin to have positive
connotations?

Robert: Gee...no exit strategy
"yeah...being smart and thinking
issues through is overrated...gee

Wonder how we got into Iraq and blew it for several years...

gee

Robert"

Gee. That's why mr. Obama is reassigning 17000 Marines from service in Iraq to Afghanistan- w/o an exit strategy. Why isn't Robert & the MSM carping about a "failed war w/ no exit strategy"? Oh, I forgot, unilateral, asymetric warfare is a bad thing unless, of course, there is a Democrat in the White House- just ask Bill Clinton. The silence is deafening.

liberal intellectuals of past century
Let's see we have:
MLK, Jr.
Gandhi
Mandela
Havel
Sakharov
Solchenetsyn (sp.?)
Romero
E. Roosevelt
etc.

This article is half right and thus all wrong.

Oh, now I get it.
Now I understand Prager's opposition to intellectuals. The Republican Party doesn't have any!

Since all of the intellectuals are on the left, naturally he has to attack intellectuals.

Of course, this is tough to square with his oft stated opinion that the left doesn't think; they feel. Which, by the way, is a stupid opinion. It's not really possible to separate feelings from the intellect. The intellect drives our feelings, and our feelings drive our intellect far more than most people would care to admit.

Douglas, et al: Spare me...
"It's extremely depressing to see this type of anti-intellectual, anti-science, anti-education propaganda ruining people in this country."


Spare me your pretentions of intellectual superiority. The left has several examples of anti-intellectualism. The left believes in the validity of “science by consensus of opinion” as replacement for the scientific method. The “scientific method” is apparently invalid because of its hierarchical, patriarchal nature & its reliance on “facts.” The left fervently believes in anthropomorphic global warming caused by man-generated “greenhouse gases” while ignoring fluctuations in “solar luminosity” in the UV spectrum associated w/ “black spot” activity. Currently, the Martian ice caps are also receding. Apparently those evil Republicans have secretly found an inexpensive way of transporting their SUVs to Mars. The left believes global warming contributed to the creation of Hurricane Katrina, yet the 2006 Hurricane season was the tamest in the last 40 plus years. The left believes that homosexuality has a genetic basis w/o scientific evidence (apparently Darwin was wrong,) despite the fact that the phenomenon could be explained via the concept of “Congenital Sexual Dyslexia.” The left believes that “gender is a social construct” in direct contradiction of scientific evidence.


Douglas, et al: Spare me...(con'td)
The left believes that women make better parents because of their innate “nurturing” qualities. Reality: given their 90% child custody near monopoly, mothers commit the majority of all child abuse- Andrea Yates was the rule not the exception. Women routinely employ abortion as de facto birth control which results in 25% (1.4M) of all children conceived yearly being aborted for pure convenience. The left has invented a “Patriarchy”, yet thanks to chivalrous male politicians & judges, women have the majority of civil, reproductive, marital, divorce, child-custody, and child-support rights in America. Result? Women are abusing “No-Fault Divorce”: women apply for 70% of all divorces while utilizing children as financial assets IOT leverage the largest amount of de facto Alimony: i.e., child support. The left believes women are good & men are bad, yet contrary to the implicit sexism of the $20B “Violence Against Women Act” women commit 50% of domestic violence. Women routinely lie about spousal abuse and assault & kill their husbands. Women routinely commit paternity fraud (4%- 10%) and legally force their husbands to pay for some else’s children. Thanks to the rape-shield laws women lie about rape 50% of the time.

not bad
The main key is thinking not intelligence. Thinking is comparative and analitical looking at all sides. Intelligence is the ability to recall information. See DeBono's Thinking method for the difference. What is taught in todays schools at all levels is the recall of "facts" not the finding of truths. "Facts" are easier to grade, but truths have value.

Douglas, et al: Spare me...(done.)
The left has invented undefined concepts like “institutional racism” to explain the dysfunctional nature of the hyphenated-American subculture w/o citing the contributing factors of promiscuity, illegitimate birthrate, no respect for education & authority, entitlement-mentality and chronic violence endemic to said subculture. Granted, institutional racism does exist: it’s called “Affirmative Action.” Also, the fundamental anti-intellectualism of the Democratic Party is embodied in recent poll where 30% of all Democratic voters polled believe that Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks beforehand. This is an example of cognitive dissonance. How can the most ostensibly stupid, incompetent & verbally incontinent President in the history of the U.S. (according to the MSM) accomplish the most far reaching conspiracy in the history of the U.S., including manipulating prominent members of the Democratic party into voting in support of the Iraqi invasion? Lastly, the left’s fundamental anti-intellectualism can be summed up by the following: Marxism as an economic model is an abject failure, yet the modern left actively employs Marxism as a tool of social engineering. Yet, there is nothing nuanced, revolutionary or evolutionary about the continued employment of the same old “victim/oppressor” Marxist canard.

The :Smart Ones---
My Dad had to leave school after fifth grade to work on the Pennsylvania Railroad docks After the death of his father he had to help support his family. He was the most intelligent person I ever knew. He read -- he did the New York Times crossword puzzle -- successfully -- and in ink. He was up on all issues and engaged me in discussions on all the important issues. He once said "While I am in favor of higher education, I feel there are too many people who are educated beyond the limits of their intelligence." He was also the most honest and ethical person I ever knew. As a dependent child, I was able to get trip passes on his railroad to go on trips. After I turned 18, I asked him to get me a pass. He said no. He told me that now that I was 18, the trip passes were over. I -- foolishly -- asked him who would know that. He said "I would." He incurred the wrath of my mother when he punched her friend's ticket on the Congressional Limited. His reply was that the Pennsylvania Railrad put food on our table, supported our family,and paid the mortgage. He ended by saying that nobody rode free on his train. When he was promoted from Brakeman to Conducter he was the youngest Conductor on the Pennsylvania Railroad. When the railroad union pulled a strike during the war, he could not work and he would not strike. He took his vacation in February and sat out the strike at home. To this day, I would never do or say anything that would disappoint him. A great man -- to be respected, admired, and emulated. After all these years, I still miss him and his love and his principle and wisdom. How lucky I was!!! that

Prager is way too funny
What's a prime example of NOT being brilliant? And in fact being a complete idiot?

Writing an entire article about how people overrate brilliance, criticizing the notion of citing as authorities Nobel prize winners when they have no great insight into social policy matters or great moral issues, dismissing those who assume that a person having a degree from Harvard means that person is smarter and more impressive than most people, and then making your big point and grand finale of an argument by citing Charles Krauthammer and relying on him as an authority in substantial part because he is *** drumroll *** someone with a medical degree from Harvard Medical School!
Doh!!!

Moreover, Krauthammer's "medical degree" is in psychiatry, which means he truly has no professional experience or knowledge on stem cell research (and, of course, even if he did, that still should not make him an authority in any way on moral issues, at leasts based on Prager's thesis).

One must be truly dimwitted at best, a hypocrite at worst, and an incredibly poor analytical thinker in any case, to have written this junk without realizing the blatant contradictions.

Phylo Se Fiser: Really?
“Now I understand Prager's opposition to intellectuals. The Republican Party doesn't have any!”

Really? You obviously have never heard of Dr. Thomas Sowell: Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institute- the leading American think tank for libertarian and neo-conservative thought.


“The intellect drives our feelings, and our feelings drive our intellect far more than most people would care to admit.”

Intellect is the pilot of feelings? Yes, if you subscribe to Dr. Thomas Kuhn’s “Modern Irrationalism” philosophy. Yes, you make gratuitous assertions that pander to your own morally-superior vanity which is endemic to the modern Left. Does have you’ve butt firmly planted the the “to each according to her needs” column of that great socialist equation grant you your morally superior tone?

Reality: “Intellect” confers the ability to “THINK”, which in turn refers to dispassionate analytical reasoning that emanates from the higher-brain Cerebral Cortex. “FEELING” refers to impulses, instincts that emanate from the baser “Reptilian” brain. Read Dr. Carl Sagan’s “Dragons of Eden” (a book pertaining to human neurological evolution) sometime if you are able.

Phylo Se Fiser
“Now I understand Prager's opposition to intellectuals. The Republican Party doesn't have any!”

Seems to me that you serve as a prime example of the Liberal Elitists discussed in Prager's article. Phylo. In practicing your "eliteness," you only prove Prager's point.

Lou Jr: typical butt clown
The post next to mine, from Lou Jr, is typical of what's wrong with this country. First of all, his charge that Prager's familial relationships somehow provide insight into the validity of Prager's opinions on various issues. This is absurd; it's character assassination...ignoring someone's arguments and hurling personal insults to destroy their credibility.

The second is the over-used description of the american people as "sheeple". I've heard this many times and it's usually meant to indicate what a brilliant and insightful person the Poster is...and that the rest of us are brainwashed cattle without a clue.

Lou Jr, and the millions like him, are the reason this country is in the toilet.

Lou Jr.
Hmmm... Let's see Lou. Bringing up multiple marriages as a a retort to the Elitist swine accusation. Right on the mark... you twit!

AMEN!
I have a question for all who read this column. How many times in your college career did you have/know a “brilliant” professor/student? Yet when you listened to or socialized with this individual, you found them to be a social and/or moral cripple who talked a lot, but seldom said anything worth hearing?

How true
George W. Bush had degrees from both Yale and Harvard, but was a total twit. As for Krauthammer, he has degrees form McGill and Harvard and studied at Oxford. Why should I believe anything he has to say?

educated idiots
Great column Dennis, and so true it is. I have personally witnessed the damage of 4 year wonders in my career field too. I have seen multi million dollar contracts totally destroyed by some 25 year old expert, that was selling french fries a year ago at this time. They think they know more than any person with just a HS diploma and 20 years experience in the field. Nevermind that the HS grad got that 5 million dollar job by impressing the customer with knowlege and common sense.

I work in construction, anyone else ever had an architect or engineer ruin a great job for you?
The longer they are in school, the worse they get.

College educated idiot
I'm 64 and only have a parochial high school education with an IQ of 132. My husband was a utility serviceman who had a one year college education. We were both raised with respect and COMMON SENSE.

We often referred to many of our former classmates who went on in higher education as "college educated idiots" including my husband's brother and our son. Why? Because they lacked common sense.

We are not wealthy, but we are happy with what we have, not envious of what others have. I don't think we could be happier had we had more education and elite jobs.


sjpatejak--So, what's your point?
"George W. Bush had degrees from both Yale and Harvard, but was a total twit. As for Krauthammer, he has degrees form McGill and Harvard and studied at Oxford. Why should I believe anything he has to say? "

It seems that you're trying to make a point here, I just can't figure out what it is.

Georgetwin
To answer your question in your 9:47 am post: ALL TOO OFTEN!

I'm sure you've heard the phrase about something being so dumb that only an intellectual could believe it.

ilbert's 12:20 am nailed it: intellect and wisdom are NOT one and the same thing. This world is easily impressed by intellect - but is starved for real wisdom. Of course, since as Prov. 9:10 tells, fearing God is where wisdom begins, in a world that's being increasingly hostile to God, it's no surprise that wisdom is in such short supply.

Bill Clinton has been described by many as brilliant - and for the sake of argument, I'll not dispute that characterization here. But who would declare he has WISDOM? He is a perfect illustration of what ilbert mentioned in the aforementioned post: intellect without wisdom. Ask Juanita Broddrick how much consolation it must be to her to know she was raped by a supposedly brilliant man. Or Hillary Clinton how much consolation his brilliance was for her regarding all the "interesting experiences" she credited him with giving her at her swearing in as Secretary of State. And I could go on and on.

I've met many extremely brilliant people in my life - and frankly, with few exceptions, if THEY were put in charge of running the world, I'd rather not be around to see it. Because for all their brilliance, they'd make this world an absolute living hell.

brad--I sympathize with you
"I work in construction, anyone else ever had an architect or engineer ruin a great job for you?
The longer they are in school, the worse they get. "

I've also seen similar results in other industries. It's truly unfortunate, because some of those young brilliant people really have promise and show potential. Too bad they don't get the chance to become seasoned before being put in charge by fraternity brothers.

sjpatejak
Since you call George Bush a twit, I dare you to define the parameters by which one can be objectively called a "twit".

I say you can't do it. Or more correctly, I say you WON'T do it, lest you define something that can be just as easily applied to a prominent liberal/Democrat and leave yourself no wiggle room for why Bush is a twit and some prominent lib/Dem who meets the exact same criteria isn't.

Logic vs quick putdowns
Thanks for the well thought out and logically valid jump there, sjpatejak. It sounds like you put a lot of thought into that. You declare Bush a "twit", and he went to Ivy League schools. Therefore, any other Ivy Leaguer (that you disagree with) is a twit as well.

Life is great when you get to define everything, isn't it? It's exactly these "gotcha" soundbit type of "snaps" that are the problem in modern political discourse. If you can make a witty put down of someone then you MUST be right about them. If you can find a flaw in their diction, appearance, or words, then you win! Someone is "an idiot" or "a fascist" or "a racist" and that's all there is to it. No discussion or logic required.

It is no wonder the democrats won the elections. Their tactics are perfect for appealing to a nation that can name the contestants on "American Idol" but can't name their own senators and congressperson.

Folks, rent the movie "Idiocracy". It's not a great movie but it brilliantly illustrates where politics is headed. Appealing to the masses with put downs and "street" language.

Why do people think Obama is Brilliant?
Every time I read or here what a brilliant man President Teleprompter is, I feel like throwing up. His white grandmother funded his attendance at the elite Punahou private school in Hawaii. After that, his skin color greased his way into Columbia and Harvard Law School. Yet, no one has ever seen this brilliant man's grades from these schools. Moreover, his only accomplishments have been getting elected.

I'd venture to say that half the people in the company I work for are smarter that he. If he is so smart, why is he a left-wing radical? Why is he trying to ruin this country? His assets are not his intelligence, but his charisma, his ability to talk a good show and his skin color. Oh, and his willingness to say whatever it takes to get elected.


Hmm
I see no evidence to support this idea, nor does Prager offer anything other than opinion to support the myth of liberal intelligentsia elitism. I have known some people I would consider brilliant and found them to be distant, socially awkward, distracted or snobbish; but not particularly cruel. There has been a couple that I thought would be more than capable of cruelty under the right circumstances although I never saw or heard of any.

No, I’ve seen the heights of kindness as well as the depths of cruelty come from people and have yet to seen any particular group or designation have more than its share.

As far as the notions connected with a Harvard education, ask yourself. Is a community college education just as good as a Harvard one? Or better yet, how do the education levels between good and bad presidents actually compare?

Intelligent or smart?
Someone once said that intelligence is nothing but the raw material; smart is what you make with it. There are those with seemingly less intelligence who undoubtedly make more with what they've been given than most of the 'brilliant' PhD's out there. Joseph Campbell famously referred to PhD's as 'stuffed shirts. I couldn't agree more. Straw filled hollow men.

Lou--really
Inability to maintain personal relationships is not indicative of inability to judge differences between intellectual and moral aptitude. Case in point--Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) has been married and divorced at least twice--I believe he was divorced from the third wife just before he successfully ran for Senate this last time. He is quite capable of seeing the immorality of the present stimulus bill and, actually, opposing it even under pressure from his fellow Democrats. You, no doubt, voted for him. And yet, regardless of his personal imperfections, he stands strong on fiscal principles. Following your logic, he is not worthy to speak out.

I, too, am a Wisconsinite. I do not vote for Feingold, but I admire his authenticity and the fact that he sticks to his principles.

And Phylo from Minnesota, the state from which I came, if Al Franken is your idea of intellectuals, don't bother speaking out. He, no doubt, will "win" the Senate seat for Minnesota, so that Minnesota will have the dubious honor of being represented by a disgusting, so-called comedian and a Muslim Brotherhood shill. Good going! I'm definitely looking into having my birth certificate's place of origin changed.


RE janice--Prager is way too funny
"One must be truly dimwitted at best, a hypocrite at worst, and an incredibly poor analytical thinker in any case, to have written this junk without realizing the blatant contradictions. "

Hmmm... Do janice's comments sound rather elitist to you?

Brilliance
It depends on what you're brilliant at. Brilliance at quantum physics doesn't create a brilliant mind in any other field. The brain is a compartamentalized organ. Great math skills don't build up brain functions in other areas. If you want to get elected, consult Obama. If you want to know about economics, consult Hayek. If you want to know about nuclear physics, consult Oppenheimer. It's not that hard.

Sounding Smart
It has been my experience that those who tout there education credentials prove to be lacking in practical experience. Those imbued with both intelligence and common sense do not waste your time by broadcasting the fact they spent so many years listening to the opinions of others rather than actually doing something. Experience is the greatest teacher (at least it has been during my lifetime).

RE Sounding Smart
...and I'm sure that some elitist will quickly pounce on my misuse of "there" vs. "their". My apologies for the typo.

PHD's
I have known only two people with phd's.One was a third grade teacher,and the other was a perpetual student and a druggie.However that doesn't mean that all phd's are like that

Smart men
Are never liars.

Smart men are never frauds.

Smart men never accept the adulation of other men, and never never never sees himself as smarter than any other man on the earth.

Fools on the other hands... ALWAYS think they are smart.
Morons always look down their nose at other men.
Idiots always think and speak with meaningless piles of steaming bull**** like Obama does.

He is one of the most ignorant and incompetent men I have ever seen rise above the fools who are just like him

Nothing is smarter
Than the simple down to earth truth.

Truth that must exist in the man himself before he can ever speak truth and only honesty can lend its intelligence.

Intelligence exists in one place in this universe, in truth and honesty.
Obama is an idiot

Jerry
Experience and common sense are vary valuable, but, I would want brain surgery from a guy who hadn't gone to a good college and done well. Getting a college degree takes a lot of hard work and commitment and should never be demeaned. That said, one of greatest presidents, Abe Lincoln, never went to school, period. Sadly, college gives some people enough education to be slick, like Prager here.

We should
all aim for mediocrity and stupidity. To become true conservatives.

Prager praises his core audience. Without stupid and ignorant people there would be no conservatives.

Education Value
Academic proficiency is touted in this culture, but having an advanced degree myself I can state emphatically: many MBA folks have absolutely no extended work experience. Without a comprehensive understanding of labor forces, small business, and events that cannot be calculated from statistical programs, many of them are lost. One must be able to think outside of the box, understand changes in unexpected events and have an ability to problem solve. I deal with people at all levels every day and the vast majority of them cannot handle conflict, which is part of life, nor can they find solutions to many simple problems...just look at the banks. They are doing things that long-term wil damage their bottom line and create stifling fear in the whole country. This what you pay for in an academic environment these days. This whole country was built with risk takes and practical solutions to problems. Not any more...the whole USA is running on emotionally deviated outcomes. The best education comes from a good mix of practical experience, not just book reading!

RE MrBannanaGrabber--Logic vs quick ...
"It is no wonder the democrats won the elections. Their tactics are perfect for appealing to a nation that can name the contestants on "American Idol" but can't name their own senators and congressperson."

Thanks for the insight, MrBannanaGrabber. I would like to add a movie recommendation to yours and that is "Absence of Malice." This Paul Newman movie makes you (or should) think about what you are actually being fed by those who control what you see, read, and hear in today's media.

Janice
Doctor Krauthammer's medical degree, like mine, is just that, a medical degree. Like all M.D.'s, he (and I) took the basic science courses (anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, neuroscience, pathology, pharmacology, microbiology, etc.) and rotated through medicine, surgery, obstetrics and gynecology, pediatrics, psychiatry, neurology, and other specialties while in medical school. He (and I) then did at least four years of residency training in psychiatry, which requires at least 3 months of neurology and at least 6 months of internal medicine. Also during his training, Doctor Krauthammer did ground-breaking research into bipolar disorder. He is as complete a physician as Joycelyn Elders, and probably a better one, despite the fact that he hasn't actually practiced in over two decades.

And Doctor Krauthammer spent five years on the President's Council on Medical Ethics. He has forgotten more about ESC research than Hoosey O ever knew and still knows more.

He has also forgotten more about medicine than you will ever know and still knows almost infinitely more.

In the future, you would be advised to do your homework before you start typing drivel.

RE Taft--Jerry
"Experience and common sense are vary valuable, but, I would want brain surgery from a guy who hadn't gone to a good college and done well. "

While I agree with the quoted part of your statement, you stop short of the truth, because the brain surgeon requires not only an education, but must spend several years in internship and residency (to wit: gaining practical experience), in order to become a "brain surgeon."

I don't think you'd want your brain surgery to be performed by Dr. Class of 2008, now would you?

A great job for the loony left:
America, being the true land of opportunity, has afforded Marxists, Maoists, Trotskyites et al. with the perfect job scenario--long term secure employment without the possibility of termination or dismissal even for the most egregious conduct. These folk are even praised and rewarded for their philosophical nonsense which is published and studied daily by our children. Even the most conservative of us feel that success is remote for anyone who does not submit to their instruction. They are firmly ensconced as 'academics' in our universities, colleges and other institutions of higher learning. And we idiots who sacrifice our childrens' minds to them all for the sake of career advancement deserve all the Obamas we receive for our adoration of these charlatans of 'learning.'

Dennis
Thank you for the column. Intelligence, and wisdom are two diffrent things. The wisest person I ever knew was my mother, she only made it to 9 grade. She was always reading, and at 55 got her GED. Dennis, again thank you for saying what needed to be said.
Kirk

and...
Oh yeah, I got me one o' them thar collidge deegrees.

Jerry
Only if I were already dead.

intellectual morons
For more on Prager's point, I would recommend Daniel J. Flynn's book, Intellectual Morons,
How ideology makes smart people fall for stupid ideas. (Crown Forum. New York, New York. 2004)

The avatars of "mega brilliance" are exposed in all their condescending mendacity.


Marcuse, Kinsey, Chomsky, Zinn, DuBois, Singer,Sanger, Rand, Vidal, Strauss, and more...

Documentation?
I am suspicous of the fact that his academic records are sealed. Here he is pretending to guide economic recovery and we don't know if he ever took Econ 101. In many respcts I see affirmative action.

In order to
get the Ph.D, the focus of study must usually be very narrow. In the desire to "add something new" to the already immense body of knowledge, we are often finding, especially in the humanities and social sciences, strange and increasingly dubious topics of "research." Now, we are met with classes and even majors, focusing on "Que#r Theory," for example. How can you get a "job" with that kind of major, unless it is in the area of taking up offenses and ensuring employment for people with odd propensities for destructive behavior. Many academics have had to carve out nitches of "knowledge" in increasingly strange and heretofore uninhabitable intellectual environments. Hence, academia is more like a guild nowadays. Serve your apprenticeship for little to nothing, endure endentured servitude, finally "make it" and then inflict the same on the next generation desiring the ivory tower. The often forced intellectual orthodoxy in Academe has grown inward. Intellectual inbreeding has caused intellectual hemophilia. There is, increasingly, no ability by academics to endure and survive the "bumps" of their orthodoxy being challenged. The rarified atmosphere creates an "academic bubble" that will hardly tolerate the normal air that regular folks breathe. Thanks to the author for pointing out that the worst fool is a brilliant, educated one.

Just Wondering
You folks who don't think much of education---tell me, do you fill your own teeth?

The Basis for Failure
Many of the failures of our intellectual elite are due not to a lack of talent, but to a lack of moral fiber. Having been told from an early age of their intellectual superiority, and largely allowed extreme leniency in their behaviors, many of our intellectual elites have failed to develop either a respect for historical wisdom, or elemental self-control.

In discarding historical wisdom as inferior to their own New Age insights, they have lost the perspective given by experience, and fall easy prey to attractive, but unproven theories. Particularly social theories for which hard evidence is notably lacking. In failing to develop self-control, and able to intellectually argue the righteousness of their indulgent position, intellectual elites have largely accepted moral relativism as their due, and justified any behavior which, to them, “feels good”.

Behaviors which all too often prove, in the long run, to be highly detrimental to themselves and to society as a whole.

High IQs vs no COMMONSENSE
I have always known that you can have the highest of IQs, and be educated at the finest Universities. However, without a dose of good old common sense that brain-power is totally useless and in many ways dangerous. I have always been leery of those that have initials other than JR or SR after the names.

everyonesfacts
"liberal intellectuals of past century
Let's see we have:
Gandhi
Mandela
Havel
Sakharov
Solchenetsyn (sp.?)
Romero
E. Roosevelt"

You forgot a few,
Hitler
Stalin
Pol Pot
Mao

By the way, MLK's ideals of equal rights under the Constitution was a conservative idea. That is why I took him off your list. Look at the party platforms of the time.

SHGround
How many MILLION vehicles built by HS Grads that perform FLAWLESSLY for YEARS?

How many Space Shuttles designed by HIGHLY EDUCATED Rocket Scientists have EXPLODED?!?!?!

Intellectuals
Most of the moral problems of the human race are due to 'intellectuals'. They come up with some theory (which is defined as an 'educated guess') they want to try out. Hitler did. So did Stalin. And how many died? ("But they were trying to imporve the race!") Most intellectuals don't care how many people are harmed or killed in trying out their theory as long as it isn't them. After all, there are always losses. Right?

Unfortunately, the more 'intelligent' someone is, the less common sense they seem to have. A person needs both. Still, you can do fairly well with just common sense. You mess up everything with just intelligence.

Georgetwin:
"How many MILLION vehicles built by HS Grads that perform FLAWLESSLY for YEARS?

How many Space Shuttles designed by HIGHLY EDUCATED Rocket Scientists have EXPLODED?!?!?!"

How many cars exploded? How many space shuttles didn't? Further, how much testing was done on cars? How much was done on shuttles? Actually, shuttles are still in the experimental stage. Further, they are a LOT more complex than the cars that high schoolers built. You can't compare them as you have tried to do. That is like trying to compare cars to airplanes. That doesn't work either.

HOW DO WE KNOW?
"But Obama sounds intelligent. As indeed he is."

How do we know Prager's statement is true?
As Editor of the Harvard Law Review, BO published no articles, which is probably a historical first. Further, are there any writings or records other that his two probably ghostwritten memoirs to indicate his "genius?"

With gradeflation and PC rampant at most Ivy League schools, and with no transcript of his grades, how does one ascertain his intellect?


Oh, I see, being associated with Marxists, Socialists, and racists an entire adult life now equates to superior intellect.

Barack Obama - Uebermensch!!!

"Si Se Puede! - Yes We Can!" Cesar Chavez, Socialist.

Lilly
You misread Prager if you think that he's anti-intellectual and anti-education. His thesis exposes the fragile nature of "brilliance." Any team of disciplined, hard working, average players will beat a group of preening, brilliant, "show-boats." I'll take a Harvard educated dentist (I had one in Tokyo for the last two years). However, I'm not so sure that a Harvard Educated economist that believes in wealth re-distribution will do much for your and my IRA in the future.

A college education
Guarantees just one thing, arrogance from fools and humility from a wise man.

Knowledge holds no benefits without wisdom or humility.

If knowledge alone was key, then there would never be a single criminal over the age of 12.
All learn good and evil exists at an early age, and the knowledge of the wickedness of murder, rape, theft and arrogance never com,es close to stopping a fool on his errand.

Knowledge is no answer for the ills of men.
For many choose the knowledge of evil over good.
This defines the intelligent from the fools, not a degree from a University

Ranger
"yeah...being smart and thinking
issues through is overrated...gee

Wonder how we got into Iraq and blew it for several years..."

I know, if only Kerry, Clinton, Schummer, etc had thought that issue through, huh?

Exactly
As a person who has been blessed with below-average intelligence, I can agree completely with what Dennis says. It seems that the smarter someone is, the more likely he is to be a liberal and to fail to see the essential truth of Dennis' claims.

45Caliber
BRAVO SIERRA!

If the Rocket Scientists are SO MUCH MORE educated, then WHY were Rubber O rings used on Challenger? Any Pre 1970’s HS Grad KNEW that Rubber SHRINKS at below freezing temps. I also noticed many HIGHLY EDUCATED types wear shoes with Velcro Closures. Why is this? Are they TOO STUPID to tie a knot?

lilly
No I don't fill my teeth,and neither does a dentist

Intelligence
The issue is not whether training the intellect is evil. The crux of the issue is that without a moral compass, intelligence just as strength or even religeous concepts can be misused. Modern medicine and western science has given humanity much in the way of blessings but we can see numerous examples of their misuse. All of which highlights the extreme need to insure that those who do have power by virtue of their intellect, accomplishments, strenght or personality are well educated in some doctrine that transmits the core moral teaching that recognizes human beings have that special attribute that through their actions they can bring either heaven or hell into the physical world.

Certified Mensa Member
I've known a lot of highly intelligent people. They've been college professors where I studied and later taught, and prisoners in the prison I worked at-- and in at least one case, both. I've been to a lot of Mensa meetings too, where I was reminded of the adage, "There are some ideas so foolish that only a highly intelligent person would believe them." Communism and Fascism were both highly supported by intellectuals. Highly intelligent people espouse both atheism and Christianity and Judaism, both astronomy and astronomy.

An ability to do well on tests doesn't imply any special quality of wisdom. I'll go along with Bishop Fulton Sheen and William F. Buckley, each who said that they would rather be ruled by the first hundred people in the phone book than by the faculty of Ivy League.

Still, I am vastly entertained by listening to a highly intelligent person explain something like UFOs, 9/11 conspiracy idiocy, or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Call it a mental weakness.

everyonesfacts
Baradiel is correct. Did you know that MLK Jr. was a lifelong Republican? Apparently not. It was the Democrats who tried mightily to thwart civil rights, and they still try.

Correction
"both astronomy and astrology." Duh!

Not So Smart
Some of the stupidest people I have ever known have advanced degrees. Holding a degree doesn't mean you are smart. It simply means you met the minimum requirements necessary to obtain the diploma. On the other hand, some of the smartest people I have ever known are blue collar workers who never went to college, some never even graduated high school. People with college degrees and doctorates are no smarter than your average Joe Six-pack.

phylo bitter writes
"George W. Bush didn't even know that there was a difference between Sunnis and Shiites just before we invaded Iraq."

Brings to mind the comments of your messiah, you know the Big "o", when talking about the Arabic interpreters not being available in Afganistan. I believe it went something like this; "Right now, we don't have enough troops, and NATO hasn't provided enough troops because they are still angry about us going into Iraq. So we just don't have enough capacity right now to deal with -- and it's not just troops, by the way. It's like Arab -- Arab -- Arabic interpreters, Arab language speakers, we only have a certain number of them, and if they're all in Iraq, then it's harder for us to use them, and -- and obviously they may not speak Arabic, but the various dialects that they speak in Afghanistan, oftentimes people who speak Urdu or Pashtun or whatever the languages are, they're going to be needed in those areas, and a lot of them have ended up being placed elsewhere. So we've got to focus on Afghanistan."

Brilliant analysis! We need more of them there interpreters that speak Arabic in Afganistan, where they don't speak Arabic.

Very astute, huh philo? By the way, do you live in one of them there 57 states or the one left to go?

AMEN!
As one who has more letters after his name than in it, I heartily agree. If you have one ounce of intellectual honesty, you recognize your limits. (Somebody please tell that to Noam Chomsky.) As one of my favorite teachers would say: “Sometimes the most intelligent thing you can say is ‘I don’t know.’”

As for "brilliant" children. Every school district has a Gifted Children's Program. In Stony Brook, NY, when parents complained because their children didn't qualify for the program, the district established what might be called a "Semi-Gifted Children's Program."

I don't know which is worse, political correctness and self esteem, or parental ego.

Taft--Only if I were already dead.
Which is probably the only experience Dr. Class of 2008 has had, so far. Continued good health to you sir (or madame?).

RE Isaiah--Exactly
"As a person who has been blessed with below-average intelligence, I can agree completely with what Dennis says. It seems that the smarter someone is, the more likely he is to be a liberal and to fail to see the essential truth of Dennis' claims. "

C'mon Isaiah, you're not fooling anyone. We all recognize you as that famous self-examining amateur proctologist.

Lilly
We aren't anti education. However, who would you rather have defending you in a court of law, someone fresh from Harvard law, never once made a case to a jury, or someone from a state school who has been in the feild for fifteen years already and has defended countless clients?

I will seek medical advice from a doctor, or legal advice from a lawyer. However, there is also this thing called life experiance. As a three time veteran of Iraq, I think my opinion on what is going on on the ground there is more valid than their's.

We conservatives don't want ignorant morons leading the country, we want smart, educated AND experianced leaders. I would take someone who went to a couple state universities, had a couple real jobs, maybe successfully ran a state, over someone who has a prestigious degree under his belt with no practical experiance anyday.

On a side note, if you libs are so smart and intellectual, why didn't you reject Biden as VP?

Gee, what a decision...
Would I rather talk to someone who thinks they have common sense, or someone with an advanced degree? An advanced degree will get your foot in the door, but what you do after is dependent on your ability. Common sense with nothing behind it will go no where.

Common sense says the world is flat and the universe orbits around us. A great deal of intellect went to support that proposition for many thousands of years.

Intellect allows people to understand when they are wrong while common sense just keeps believing what it will.

Common sense married to brilliance is awesome.

Common sense married to dogma is a recipe for disaster.

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Jerry
I don't know what I said to make you so angry, but I apologize. Nothing is as important to me as being liked by you.

And here is a much "smarter" man making much the same point as Dennis much more articulately:

http://www.solstice.us/russell/knowiz.html

Isaiah
Not angry, Isaiah, observant. No apology necessary.

Baradiel
How's the hunt for WMDs going? You know, I have conservative friends who just know they are going to be found. The current ideas are 1)they are buried in the desert and 2) they are in Syria.

Conservatives kept the previous moron in the white house while in their common sense never questioning what he did. More, they defended him against any criticism. What I hear now is "RINO" and "He wasn't what we thought he was". A great advertisement for common sense.

Kenneth
Double amen.

I think a lot of the problem is that the term "intelligent" is narrowly applied to those with academic backgrounds.

I often reminisce, only half-jokingly, that the reason I went to college was because I didn't have any skills as a craftsman, tradesman or salesman.

But it worked out ok. I graduated with honors as a petroleum engineer and have gone on to have a pretty decent career, earning a couple of Masters Degrees along the way.

However, I know deep down that if I had ever tried to make it, say, as a roughneck on a drilling rig, I would have been a total washout and probably lost a few body parts in the process.

For that matter, I still stand in awe when I call an electrician or plumber over to my house and watch him do his thing, or when I see some truck driver manuever a tractor-trailer with more ease than I do my compact car. I watch them and say "man those guys are smart!"

vs
Intelligence=what you know.
Wisdom=the ability to understand the meaning of what you know.
Heinlein observed that the more narrow the field of expertise of an academic, the more likely he/she is to believe his/her expertise is universally applicable.

Medical Ethics
ME is a very interesting topic. If you have not taken the time to learn about ME then it might sound a little esoteric. The basic idea when talking ethics is that there are certain viewpoints or stances that an ethicist starts with. For example: a consequetialist, a feminist, a deontologist... In understanding the "rules" of the stance you start with you try to apply those "rules" of your particular stance to the question at hand. Its neccesary to also understand other stances regarding the same question.

Its not difficult to learn and often the answers to the questions seem like common sense. The most important thing an ethicist does is to ask and answer all of the smaller detail questions.


I would hope that Obama, who makes these very big decisions, comes to conclusions the way any ethicist would.

Cool link to help those who are interested in ME:

http://www.lawandbioethics.com/demo/Main/Bioethics_L.html

WHAT do we value?
I love when parents talk about their "Lord of the Flies" kids as "brilliant" because they get straight "A"s but are hated by not only their classmates but their teachers and the entire faculty. Some of them are reminiscent of the character Gaius Baltar from Battlestar Galactica. A true genius in every respect but with the morals of Caligula and the narcissism of Marie Antoinette.

I would be prouder of any kids I had (none so far) if they were first noticed for being DECENT, ETHICAL and CARING and THEN for being however smart they were. Character builds cultures NOT "brilliance". Remember, "If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance baffle them with your bull$shyt!"

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Cavs Fan:
I work in a medical college and we have a VERY active ethics review panel. The research is never greelighted without their approval as it is a college under the Yeshiva's control. Some of the panelists are run of the mill profs and some are practicing physicians. All put their yarmulkas on with both hands like anyone else in the morning. Very level-headed crew indeed.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Bleeding Heart Liberal
So how many times have you been to Iraq? Why don't you ask your dem freinds who voted for the invasion as well? How about the surge being a failure?

You are aware of course that WMDs are not the only reason we went there, right?

Hey BHL, are you going to respond to my question about Biden? Any of you libs? If you all are so smart and we conservatives are just knuckle draggers, why won't you say ANYTHING about Biden?

everyonesfacts... 8:49
be careful how you apply liberal to the list you gave. I see only two person's that would be considered "liberal" in the modern sense, Mandela and E. Roosevelt. The others would be considered freedom fighters and thinkers; both not modern liberal traits. Liberals today want to take freedom rights away and are lemmings when it comes to congnizant thought, hence your post.

Luddites
"On the contrary, the smartest and the best educated frequently make things worse."

Great, no wonder people think conservatives are anti-intelligence and bible thumping moralists, errr, because they are! Whoopppeee!

The men who founded this country weren't exactly stupid Dennis. So please, pray tell how it is that Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, etc. somehow eluded this thesis of yours.

In other words
there are educated fools posing as experts and leaders. And I heartily agree, Dennis.

Vampire
The founding fathers were also bible thumpers, that is what they founded this country on.

Typical liberal intolerance of those with different points of view and beliefs, insult insult insult.

Let's see know
Jerry: My point is that Prager seems to denigrate education while supporting and quoting educated people. According to TH biography he did graduate work at Columbia, so intellectual heal thyself.

standhisground: Wikipedia defines "twit" as British slang word for an insignificant, foolish or annoying person. Of course there are Democratic twits, as there are independent twits, libertarian twits, objectivist twits, etc. See the attached example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ba1OKY7Xc

Baradiel: Who ever defined Hitler and Stalin as intellectuals? Neither had the equivalent of even a high-school education. Mein Kampf is ill organized drivel that Mussolini called a "boring tome." Stalin's rambling are interminably boring.

Vampire's Reflection
"...how it is that Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, etc. somehow eluded this thesis of yours."

Good point, although I would say that these men, in addition to their educations and intellects, each possessed a strong moral compass, a reservoir of real-life experience and--dare I say--a good measure of common sense.


sjpatejak,
Is that really what you got out of the article Prager wrote? Amazing.

Well, you're definitely not a member of the intellectual class; or you might be, which actually makes his whole point.

Why don't you go back and read it again, outline his points, and then come back to make a post. I'm trying to help you not embarrass yourself, if that even matters to you.

Not anti-intellectualism!
Awareness of the constraints of intelligence.

I have an advanced degree and have followed the course of my father, who finished high school and was denied college by the Depression. He never stopped learning. Our house was filled with books he'd read.

One of my best friends holds a degree in economics from Dartmouth. Jon always points out that doesn't necessarily make him smarter than anyone else. For ex., he graduated a lot further in debt than I did. He considers my state university degree might be a sign of greater common sense.

During a moment of downtime at work, I once entered into a debate with the Executive Director of our agency -- a man with a PhD in Psychology and a second masters in Social Work. We were discussing terrorism. Someone else in the room pointed out that I, a mere single Master degree holder, shouldn't really consider myself more knowledgeable on the subject than Doug. Doug laughed and said "My degrees are in Social Work. Hers are in journalism and poli sci. I think I'm about to get my a** kicked."

What Jon and Doug understand, but many on this site and in government and business don't, is that higher education doesn't necessarily confer greater wisdom across the broad spectrum of knowledge. Greater education confers specific knowledge in a finite area. One of my cousins is a double-PhD paleontologist who is brilliant in his field, but has no understanding of difference between Shiite and Sunni Muslims. Which one of us is smarter depends on which of those topics we're discussing.

BTW, the highest IQ in my family (that's been tested) is held by a construction worker. 171. Jeff hated school and took another path. Doesn't mean he's not smart or that he hasn't done a lot of study in a variety of areas. Just means he earns his living nailing shingles down.

sjpatejak
They were both lauded as brilliant in their respective countries at the time, were they not?
If Stalin in particular wasn't an intellectual, then why have so many of our so called intellectuals adopted many of his viewpoints?
"Stalin's rambling are interminably boring. " Ever heard Obama off promter?

Still, I notice that no mentally superior lib wants to comment on Biden.

Eugenics...and intellectual snobbery...
Yes, a thinking man or woman, who is gifted with intelligence is best. Magaret Sanger knew this. She attempted to drive birth selection to the smartest people. I mean isn't it obvious that poor people are stupid and shouldn't procreate? Saddam Hussein had a different selection criteria. His was ethnic and political. He gassed Kurds, used rape rooms and prisons to torture his enemies. His sons fed their enemies to lions and tigers and taped them being killed and eaten. Ah, we long for those days of the eternal sunshine that Ranger apparently misses too. Saddam paid the families of suicide bombers in Israel a $20,000 + bounty for murdering women and children. That sounds like fomenting terrorism to me. Iraq tried to kill Bush 41 in a visit to Saudi Arabia. Attempts to weaken funding and the support the troops hate the war sophistry prolonged the war and caused additional American deaths. Now the brilliant Obama wants to strip our injured veterans of the medical benefits that were part of the contract they signed up for. He's so smart. Lie to the troops that if they pay the price for following orders we will take care of them should they be injured. If intelligence is the key attribute that defines greatness that would explain why liberals want to kill babies in utero. Kerry and Clinton voted for the war. When it become profitable not to support it they declared if only I had known the truth...Ranger and his liberal kin will pay the ultimate price of appeasement. Big cities are where we will be attacked. Liberals congregate in them. You deserve the politicians that you elect.

Baradiel
Quite right. I have never been to Iraq but I know we should not be there. And btw, WMDs were what stampeded this country into that war.

My war was Viet Nam where I personally spent 16 months and 20 days in country. Your 3 tours of Iraq account to how much actual time?

In your wisdom you think the loss of 3 divisions of infantry is acceptable for the "success" we have achieved? Iraq is a far more lethal war than Viet Nam. In my war the 20K permanently disabled in Iraq would have been KIA. While we had great medical care for the time, it pales by your experience.

As for Joe, I really like him. Especially when the alternative would have been a bit of dogmatic fluff like Palin.

Evie
What a beautiful tribute (9:20 post) to your Dad
you weren't lucky, you were BLESSED.

So was I, my Dad never finished H.S. quit to work in the textile mills at 14, in MA. But he was one of the smartest and kindest men. And I also miss mine terribly, and he's been gone to a better life since 1975.

There is a wonderful man attending my church,
and while talking to him you get the impression that he's a very smart man but you'd never know he owns a Phd in some aspect of the paper industry. He just doesnt
tout it, I only found out through a conversation about my husbands particular field in that industry when this man off handedly mentioned that he'd done his doctorate about the
product my husband worked with. He's a man that is comfortable in his own skin, and humble
enough to realize his intellect came from God.

Bishop Fulton J. Sheen . . .
once remarked that "it is easier for an educated person to justify evil.
When one talks to so-called "educated" pro-abortion proponents, they justify killing because the "fetus" is only a "clump of tissues".
There is a BIG difference between a person who has a "college degree" and a truly educated person. Unfortunately, most of the time, no distinction is made between the two.
Homeschooling is successful because there is none of the ideological "claptrap" that is so much in evidence at our so-called "institutions of higher learning".
Homeschoolers learn how to deal with (and are comfortable with) intellectually stimulating discussions with people of all ages. Compare this with the intellectually stifling arrangement in today's classrooms.
The one-room schoolhouse of decades past was successful because older students reinforced their learning by mentoring younger students. The McGuffey Eclectic Readers (which are still available) are still a good resource; the last two books of the series would be difficult for most college students today.

BLH
My time there amounts to 2 years.

We have lost less than one percent of troops that have gone there. Our troops that are on the ground are doing a great job. You know, the troops who wouldn't have been reinforced if the dems had their way. Oh, and in regards to the wounded in Iraq, you know your boy Obama is talking about making them PAY for a portion of their care, right? As a Vietnam vet, that has to bother you.

You like Biden? OK. I like him too. He is a laugh a minute. Care to explain why you like him? If he passes as an intelectual, then the bar must be pretty low. Same thing with President Prompter and Pelosi and Mr. Gorbal Warming.
Wow, looking at the roster, I am not really impressed with the so called intellectuals at all.

Brilliance vs competence
Took a course once from the "Father of Management Science" Peter Drucker. The most boring lecturer I'd ever heard but occasionally he'd come up with real good tid bits. One I'll never forget: "A business places no premium on brilliance; it only values competence." I'm not convinced our current President has either. But then we're talking about gov't, not a business....

sjpatejak
While I may not necessarily agree that wikipedia's definition of "twit" is an authoritative one, nor that it is beyond dispute that the word deservedly applies to George Bush, and given the fact that many people apply the word based on totally subjective criteria, I'll at least give you kudos for answering my question - and admitting that "twits" are not confined to one end of the political spectrum.

Bara...
There is a negative criticism of Biden in this response.

I do not claim that Joe is an intellectual. That is for the right to do. I merely say that as a member of the foreign relations committee he had more knowledge of world affairs than "I can see Russia". As many on the right pointed out, Obama has a lack of experience in the legislative side of government. Joe, with almost 30 years experience is an excellent adviser for that deficit. Finally, if tragedy strikes and Biden ascends to the presidency, I won't be as terrified as the option of Cheney or Palin.

In understand the reason Bush didn't use teleprompters is that he can't read too well. That canard will carry more credence with the general public than any slur for Obama using one.

I understand most consies don't like big Al. Can you say you have actually seen "An Inconvenient Truth"? And, if you have, where has he lied? I also understand how the right feels insulted by the Libs in Sweden giving Gore a Nobel and all especially when contrasted to Bush's nomination. Wait! Bush did nothing to be nominated for. Silly me.

Robert Bork is not my cup of tea. He is a brilliant legal mind. I listened to his confirmation hearings and while I was personally appalled at his positions, I cannot help but stand in awe of his intellectual ability. For that fiasco liberals deserve a smack up along side the head with a very rotten fish. Joe Biden chaired the committee.

Best and Brightest
This was the description of JFK's administration who micro-managed the Viet Nam war from D.C.

Baradiel: one more than I gtg
I just read a wiki bio on Biden. You should be cheering this guy. He is the consies Joe six pack.

He has no family fortune. I may have a higher net worth than him. He went to state U and an obscure law school. He is a boot strap success story and you should be cheering him on.

Baradiel, You are a little creepy when you talk about someone else's arms and legs as being such a small percentage of the overall number. do you really think the exchange of what we have paid for this war is worth what we have gained? One year after our troops leave please read Ozymandias.

the messiah's brilliance
this continues to be a lefties joke.

All we know about flap ears he is that he can read a teleprompter. There is no paper trail to prove he has any intellectual accomplishments. The lefties cite his 2 ghost written love letters to himself as proof he is smart.

But the real problem is that the msm and the lefties are so desperate to see someone they can look up to as brilliant they give the messiah a pass concerning intellect.

So what we have is just more of the same from the msm. They wanted an affirmative action president and in b hussein they got one. They want to see an intellect in front of his teleprompter and flap ears gives them the affirmative action intellectual they yearn for.

Funny how the left holds their messiah and savior to a much lower standard for everything. But why the surprise, the msm help create this fraud and they are stuck with the job of propping him up despite all evidence he is not up to the job of running the country

jim
are you serious? you really think bush thought about the issue of stem cell research and then sat down and wrote the words to that speech. it was written for him just like every other president. and to say bush had a clear and concise mind is well.... ridiculous is the only word that comes to mind. i don't know what president you were watching but it wasn't dumya.

Wrat WraNGLER
I've met a couple of the staff ethicists at the Cleveland Clinic, they are very interesting people. I think the medical community has come to acknowledge the importance of understanding bioethics as its a major part of the core competencies of any GME program(professionalism).


BHL
Ah, so smart, quoting Palin. However, it was Tina Fey who said that in a parody of Palin. Nice try. On the foreign policy front, Obama has ZERO experiance. Heck, I have more foreign policy experiance than Obama. Your average 20 year old Marine Grunt who has spent any time interacting with Iraqis or Afghans has more than Obama.

In regards to big Al, I haven't see an Inconveniant Truth, nor do I plan to. He isn't a climatologist, so I am not going to take anything seriously on the subject from him. He has alot invested in alternative energy though, so it doesn't take a Harvard degree to follow the money on that one.

I find it hard to believe Bush doesn't read well. He didn't use a teleprompter alot because he can actually form a thought on his own.

Oh, and Palin has successfully run a state. She actually has administrative experiance, something neither Obama or Biden has.

Still notice that you an other libs are pretty quiet on the idea that Obama is thinking about making WIAs pay for health care. As a vet I would think you would be fuming mad. Face it, the man is over his head.

BHL
"Baradiel: one more than I gtg
I just read a wiki bio on Biden. You should be cheering this guy. He is the consies Joe six pack. "

You need to look up how much the man is worth. Also, look up how much he has given to charity. I don't care what kind of financial background someone comes from. He is an idiot. Everytime he opens his mouth, he spews nonsense. And I would never cheer for someone who claims to be a Christian but is pro abortion.

#28
#28: MLK was a Republican.

The Opposite

It's part of the conservative distaste for intellect to denigrate smart people. Complaining about smart people is a tried and true way to get conservatives to start foaming at the mouth.

The real problem faced by American, however, is the one elucidated by Charles Dickens. The real threat to this or any other nation is ignorance. Prager woudl be better off if he wrote more articles denigrating the ignorant instead fo the intelligent.

Plus, the irony is too precious. First he complains that Harvard grads get too much credibility. Then he tells us CHuckie Krauthammer is credible because, after all, he's a graduate of Harvard medical school.

What a dope

Stop the Brilliant nincompoops
We know what the problems are. What are real, effective methods to stop this dangerous course we are on? The lying and thieving by our politicians must stop. Solutions, solutions, solutions.

BLH
"How's that hunt for WMD going?"

The WMD was obviously found in 1998:

"...the actual use of force" is the "surest way to contain Saddam Hussein’s WMD program." - Bill Clinton 1998

How about that 550 tons of yellowcake in Iraq sold in 2008 to a Canadian company which could be used to manufacture over 100 nuclear weapons?

Was it a case of "Clinton lied, people died?"

patriotic
Remember, only Republicans can lie and kill people. Just like it was only Republicans that voted for the war.

laughable
came across this post:

Posted by: Phylo Se Fiser | May 24, 2007 2:59:44 PM

Obama is nothing but an empty suit......

at least Edwards offers substance. He just doesn't offer empty rhetoric, which is all I see from Obama...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/05/obama_has_h is_o.html

You asked!
sjpatejak
Location: DC
Reply # 43
Date: Mar 17, 2009 - 9:54 AM EST How true
George W. Bush had degrees from both Yale and Harvard, but was a total twit. As for Krauthammer, he has degrees form McGill and Harvard and studied at Oxford. Why should I believe anything he has to say?
__________________
You're right! Why should you believe he has anything to say...you're obviously another uneducated liberal who wouldn't understand a word of it anyway! They'd both talk above your intelligence to understand.

Oh My !
came across this post:

Welcome to elephantslayer.com.

Are you tired of seeing bogus Republican arguments win over the hearts and minds of too many of our fellow citizens? Well, this is the place where bogus Republican arguments come to die. I'll select a few of the bogus Republican arguments of the day, and the I'll break down why the arguments are bogus. I'm new at this whole blogging thing, so we'll see how it goes.

I also like to harass right wing columnists over at townhall.com under the pen name Phylo Se Fiser, which is a reference to the fact that I am an amateur philosopher. I'm currently working on a book that will correct the metaphysical problems underlying most of Western philosophy. I'll make some of that available as soon as I can figure out how to do that.

Looking forward to any comments. I love a good debate.

Matt Mullen

Posted by Matt Mullen at 2/4/2009 9:36 AM | Add Comment

http://blog.elephantslayer.com/

Taft
You are entitled to your opinion, but that does not make it a fact.

What is the basis for you thinking Obama is smarter than Bush? Bush accomplished a few things in his life. He started and ran an oil company until the bottom fell out of the market -- and continued paying his employees as long as possible even though no profit was possible. He owned and managed a ball team too.

Remember when the media went totally quiet when it turned out that Bush had a higher GPA than Gore? We know Bush's GPA, but Obama will not release his. Que?

What had Obama ever done on his own?

I doubt Obama could run a chain saw to cut brush. He might even have trouble with an axe. (Anybody can hack, but it efficient cutting with an axe is not as easy as it looks -- it takes a mite of know-how.)

sol
I've warned you all in the past not to waste your energy responding to trolls.

People who are obviously leftists commenting on this site do it only to see how much of a rise they can get out of conservatives. When people argue with them and try to reason with them, or worse yet are under the delusion that they might make them "see the light", they are acting foolishly because the one's you are communicating with are laughing behind your back.

You all surely have better things to do - I hope.

The best response to trolls is to ignore them. This bestows upon them the complete and absolute irrelevance they deserve.

It takes a brilliant mind
to be truly, colossally, stupid.

how swift is Dubya, really?
re:
"The adulation of the intellect is one reason President George W. Bush was so reviled by the intellectual class. He didn’t speak like an intellectual (even though he graduated from Yale) and for that reason was widely dismissed as a dummy (though he is, in fact, very bright)."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I think that dubya is simply a son of privilege-- his SAT's would not have gotten him into Yale otherwise. (Same with John Cohen-Kerry) Then again, the ObaMessiah has refused to disclose any of his test scores, which might perhaps reveal that AA was involved in his progression-- Harvard, etc., are notoriously PC.

Those artful neoCONS (Wolfy, Perle, Feith, Abrams, Libby, Wurmser, and Fleisher) manipulated Dubya like he was Silly Putty to get us into a war of choice against the wrong Islamics to take out Saddam and get permanent bases there for Israel... Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

A brighter guy would have been less gullible and more curious. It is disturbing that even he now cites his biggest regret is that he did not have better intel about Iraq-- but WHO cooked that info?!

Education
To many "intellectuals" are educated beyond their ability to comprehend.

"Brilliant" '
Brilliant is as brilliant does. High IQ's do not make anyone good. On the other hand low IQ's doesn't make anyone good either.
Education doesn't make anyone good either.
Doctors do not all have good health habits, lawyers break the law, ministers do not practice what they preach. Teachers do not practice what they teach (oops some do practice what the preach-socialism).
Ignorance does not make anyone good either.
Goodness comes from other sources. Does it come from genes? Does it come from example?
Does it come from training by parents, school, church, society, adults, peers?
I am not sure that I can describe "good," but I know it when I see it just as I know "bad" when I see. Of course, I make those judgments based on my value system. Some say one's conscience the least personal possession one has-that it comes from others.
What has been the track record of "the best and the brightest?"
Donald W. Bales

Ilusion
President's Obama's brilliance is an illusion. I have heard him talk without notes many times and all I hear is a lot of ums and disconnected facts. If there's brillance, I don't see it.

As for Harvard, it has long ceased to be a serious university. Years ago, Harvard was the best this country could offer. Those days are in the distant past. Today much of it is dedicated to politically correct slop. The only reason to go there is to get connections - not an education.



Overrated... you bet!
Great column Dennis. Of course you've picked up the usual whiners who just don't get it! But, as you can see, they're the exception... and always will be! Thank you for articulating a well thought out premise. We couldn't agree with you more!

Ms. Kelly I'm a troll (liberal)
I like to debate people, it's interesting to hear the other sides argument in a debate. You however must like for everyone to tell you how right you are about everything. Get a nice pat on the back. I'm not afraid to voice an opinion other may not like. I'm not right all the time and I enjoy a good comeback. I would say I welcome it if anyone can do it. You are a coward with nothing to say. It's not your fault, your just a conservative.

Dubya was crazy!
Like a fox!

The lack of follow-up Islamist attacks on the US mainland was not because our CIA came up with some wonderful crystal balls to find every would-be attacker. It was because extremist Islamia, in general, was shamed before the world when Dubya put two big dents in it called Afghanistan and Iraq. It didn't matter whether the punches were askew. At the same time Dubya kept chanting "Islam is a religion of peeeeeeeeeeace!" While that certainly brought some questions in Christian conservative circles over here in the USA, can you imagine how galling that was to war minded mullahs? Some actually got the idea that Allah was teaching them a lesson about foolish moves.

elephantslayer.com
Since folks are mentioning it, I checked it out. Its not been updated in a month... but more importantly, its just another leftist blog. It does not, despite the promise, even engage (let alone destroy) actual conservative arguments. This is because Mr. Mullen, like most leftists, does not actually understand conservative thinking, and therefore can only attack straw men dressed up to look 'conservative'. Here would be an example. Here Mr. Mullen refers to an article by Charles Krauthammer (he does not repost the section he speaks of, nor provides a link). I will start with the actual article, then Mr. Mullen's reply:

Charles:
And yet more damaging to Obama's image than all the hypocrisies in the appointment process is his signature bill: the stimulus package. He inexplicably delegated the writing to Nancy Pelosi and the barons of the House. The product, which inevitably carries Obama's name, was not just bad, not just flawed, but a legislative abomination.

It's not just pages and pages of special-interest tax breaks, giveaways and protections, one of which would set off a ruinous Smoot-Hawley trade war. It's not just the waste, such as the $88.6 million for new construction for Milwaukee Public Schools, which, reports the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, have shrinking enrollment, 15 vacant schools and, quite logically, no plans for new construction.

Mr. Mullen:

But the one adjective that stands out is "special-interest tax breaks". Is he talking about the tax breaks that will go to 95% of working families? I guess, for a man who believes that the government's sole function is to benefit the corporate aristocracy, then 95% of working families would seem like a special interest. Unbelievable.

Now, me:

My take on the next post.


elephantslyer cont'd

It's certainly easy to understand why Mr. Mullen does not quote the bit that he finds so unbelievable, since any person who reads English could see that the tax breaks Charles speaks of are those to specific targeted groups as part of the "stimulus" bill that Congress was pushing through at the time. It obviously had nothing to do with the campaign pledge to lower taxes on 95% of people.

No word from Mr. Mullen on the idea that a substantial number of those 95% do not pay federal income taxes, and so this represents a welfare check. He doesn't deny it -- its just that the idea doesn't exist to Mr. Mullen.

No word on the fact that, by letting the "Bush tax cuts" time out, Obama and Congress are already giving lie to this 95% reduction pledge. He doesn't deny it -- its just that the idea doesn't exist to Mr. Mullen.

No word on the fact that neither Obama nor Congress have, in fact, actually ever reduced the taxes on 95% of Americans yet. He doesn't deny it -- its just that the idea doesn't exist to Mr. Mullen.

Given these little facts -- the ones that don't exist to Mr. Mullen -- it would be hard to imagine why Dr. Krauthammer WOULD be talking about the "95%" tax cut. So, Mr. Mullen takes a bizarre and otherworldly view of what Dr. Krauthammer is saying, gets upset that this idea that Dr. Krauthammer is against this thing that Dr. Krauthammer was not talking about, blithely ignores all the reasons why it IS a bad idea, and then accuses Dr. Krauthammer of claiming that "95% of people are a special interest".

And this is why I only look at leftist blogs about once a month. That is the limit of my tolerance for frothing stupidity.

Speaking of foolish moves
Remember how Ronald Reagan bankrupted the Soviet Union by getting into a spending war with them at the same time they were fighting in Afghanistan? Haven't we been bankrupting ourselves fighting a war on terror that can't be won. I wonder if that was Osama Bin Laden's plan all along.

Obama Makes Bin Laden Seem A Rookie
wade offers, "Haven't we been bankrupting ourselves fighting a war on terror that can't be won. I wonder if that was Osama Bin Laden's plan all along."

Nice try. On balance our war on terror has not been as costly to us as their war on us.... 9/11.

Nor has it been as costly as Obama's war on America's classes. The amount of money and destruction of the American fabric at the hands of Obama must make Osama Bin laden jealous that he doesn't get to tack his name to it.

Mac Moore
The war in Iraq, the war on Terrorism, and the
war on greed are different things which all
seem to have slammed home at the same time.
Don't belittle it by stupid statements like
Obama Makes Bin Laden Seem A Rookie.

Obama is a positive force. Osama is a negative and evil force.

Wade
In answer to your question...no. Military spending on the war on terror is miniscule compared to what we spent fighting the cold war. Besides, President Obama just signed a spending bill that is six times the size of the entire cost of the war to date. In other words, we spend significantly more money on social programs and pork than we do on the military. Just reference C.B.O. figures if you doubt that.

the genuises are inbred
The wall st crowd who used to drop $200 for a 2 hour lunch most certainly arrived from Ivy land & were were hired by fraternity references and college zip codes.
The Nazi party was prejudiced against the intellectual and the clannish circles formed for the pursuit of money and the high achievement practically guaranteed by the graduate's last names.
Elitism is what it is called. That G H Bush 'achieved' his ambition is evidence of, not against, elitist special priviledges. Grand pa Prescott is quite a story, if you are into criminal successes; and so is the Kennedy patriarch, Joseph P.
I dont consider either American success stories.
Just the same power grab we see every generation. America is just a soap opera now.
You know, the hippies were right. America DID become the country of consumerism, war making, poor diet, keeping up with the Joneses, and me-first I'll get mines way of living. Now, so-called conservatism proclaims virtues but no solutions to the life style the old guard Reps so fastidiously followed. Be-like-Rush! The slipping down life has no shame, clothes and the bottom is some way off.

Tammy
While I agree that demonizing Obama is intellectually lazy, I reject the idea that he is-by default-a positive force. Now understand that I am not claiming him to be a negative force, as I think it is far too early to tell. And unlike those who demonized George Bush for eight years, I do not think that Obama is bent on destruction and personal greed. While I may not agree with his ideology, I believe he thinks he is doing what is best for the country. And though I have serious doubts about the means he is using, time may prove me wrong. We shall see.

Phylo Se Fiser
And seven years into the war Obama didn't know they did not speak Arabic in Afghanistan -- please. Read the column and stop being partisan.


Tammy
Obama is NOT the brains behind what is going on, all of it is being guided by Pelosi,Reid etc.
Obama is simply not smart enough to even sit in the Oval Office, leave alone run things.

There are many like him. They can yak & yak & yak, but don't know s$%t about what is happening.
We've all met people like that.

No$
I often wonder how cynical folks like you manage to get through a day without hanging yourself. I am betting hypocrisy has something to do with it.

There are thousands of guys just like you, who lament greed and consumerism on your Dell PC while sucking back a Pepsi at your Ikea desk, all the while paying taxes to this "corrupt imperialist nation" you detest so much.

I suppose what I am saying is, as long as you continue to live here and suck on all the fruits this nation has to offer, your little diatribes will continue to come off lacking any real credibility.

oracle1
I don't think either Bush or Kerry is stupid. I, also, don't think you pick presidents based upon who has the highest standardized test scores.

Nixon was brilliant, Kissinger is unbelievably brilliant are either what you would describe as good men?

Ignorance Disguised As Intelligence
john offers, "The real threat to this or any other nation is ignorance. Prager woudl be better off if he wrote more articles denigrating the ignorant instead fo the intelligent."

Agreed. However, ignorance is in the eyes of the beholder. Obama is demonstrating astounding ignorance of economics, people and ethics by attempting micro-manage according to his politically correct mindset.

After spending $170M on his inauguration, he whines about employees on AIG getting paid a similar amount, that he already agreed to. What? He is the only one that gets such money? Such ignorance has not been around since Marie Antoinette.

Of course, it's not Obama's fault, his teleprompter keeps telling him this stuff.

Well done Mr. Prager!

I hope you live as long as Abraham.

Just to tick-off the Lefties :-)

If Obama is SOOO smart
Then why does he think it is a good idea to have our wounded Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines pay for their coverage?

LIBS? HELLO!!

Can any of you answer that?

Obama Is A Demagogue, Absolutely
Tammy offers, "Obama is a positive force."

Absolutely not! You have got to be out of your mind! Or, a Public School Prodigy. You can not have been born that dumb. It has got to have been learned.

Obama is a partisan demagogue trying to create a fascist empire of Government controlled industries according to a politically correct agenda. He has politicized abortion - we now sponsor it worldwide! He has politicized embryonic stem-cell research. He has politicized pay scales on Wall Street. He has politicized taxes as a method of punishing producers and rewarding those that sit and wait .. "Tax Justice", "Redistribution of Wealth".

To Obama, Freedom is over-rated. The Government must control more of our lives to make us better. To Obama, America needs to be controlled, not freed.

When America elected Obama, America was out of its mind!

Evidence of Obama's "brilliance"
Is Obama a genius or what? Just consider some of the people he's appointed in his administration:

- A Treasury Secretary who doesn't pay taxes.

- A Secretary of State who insults foreign dignitaries.

- A CIA director with absolutely no experience in intelligence matters.

- A Secretary of Homeland Security who doesn't want to refer to terrorists as terrorists.

- A Deputy Attorney General who defends child pornography.

- A Vice-President who can't take his foot out of his mouth.

Um, what was the question again?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
"The adulation of the intellect is one reason President George W. Bush was so reviled by the intellectual class. He didn’t speak like an intellectual (even though he graduated from Yale) and for that reason was widely dismissed as a dummy (though he is, in fact, very bright). On the other hand, Barack Obama speaks like the college professor he was and thereby seduces the adulators of the intellect the moment he opens his mouth. Yet, it is he, not George W. Bush, who nearly always travels with teleprompters to deliver even the briefest remarks. And compared to George W. Bush on many important issues, his talks are superficial -- as reading, as opposed to hearing, them easily reveals. "

That may be the funniest, most ridiculously reasoned comment I have ever seen, even on the usually hysterically funny and illogical Town Hall. I guess when you cannot beat the man politically, when he outsmarts you every day, when your party has no ideas at all, when 8 years of your 'non-superficial' president led to economic disaster, Katrina, failed wars, and a huge deficit (and no remedies for any of them, even now, suggested by that party besides tax cuts for the rich), then I guess you have to make up gobblygoop like Prager does to justify the neverending prattle from Rush on down.

Mr. Prager, compared to the Bush elections, President Obama won in a landslide. Most Americans love to hear him speak, they love his family, they are proud to be Americans again. That's right, we were not proud to be Americans when we went on trips all over the world and found ourselves confronted by family and strangers, wanting to know why we elected such an inferior person like President Bush.

You lost. Articles like this show you don't know why you lost. When you don't know why you lost, you are likely to stay lost until someone, maybe someone like Gingrich or Frum, leads you to see that knownothings leading religious nutters will never win a national election.

Baradiel
Where is your source for that? I'm interested.

If a vet has his own insurance
why shouldn't it pay for his expenses? He's paying for it, why shouldn't the tax payers get some relief. If he doesn't have other insurance, then it isn't an issue.

"The plan would authorize the VA to pursue reimbursement of medical costs from private insurers, or so-called third-party billing, for treating injuries and medical conditions sustained in the course of a veteran's military service. The VA already pursues third-party billing for non-service-related conditions. "

Aside from the fact this is not that big a deal, esp. when we pass universal health care, the Congress has told Obama it won't approve it. So don't make up issues that are not there.

Lonny
Prager and his cohorts ran our country for 8 years by this same method, lying and fraud, and they know, nothings changed, there just bidding their time like latent syphilis.

Is it adulation of brilliance ...
... or fear of ignorance? Actually, a more revealing question might be "which are liberals more scared of: appearing ignorant or actually being ignorant?"

In any case - bravo Dennis. Well done, as always: thoughtful, incisive, provocative. You never fail to prompt me to look at things a little differently, and I'm better for having done so.

gee 'bob'
you misspelled sucking.
sure I pay taxes, so what?
I never said "corrupt imperialist nation" - you did - bob

I'm almost 60, never owned a Dell, been to Ikea once, by mistake. I dont have a four year degree much less GS. I have three AA's which means I go to work with what I learn and keep going back for more.
I've lived the right and have the sight to say and mean exactly what I do.
But the more I say about me the more you will find to put down and disqualify, as if you make the rules. You dont. Not for me.
I am a conservative in politics and everything I do. I read, investigate and seek expert advice. And then I decide what is best my family and community.
And I reserve the right to call it the way I see it in a PUBLIC forum.

The issue was education, elitism and the 'special class' who believes in taking just because it is there. You have convinced me where you stand. Good luck in your future endeavors.



Obama Is A Dimwit Protected By PC MSM
bob as to Obama offers, "While I may not agree with his ideology, I believe he thinks he is doing what is best for the country."

Agreed.

However, Obama thinks that America is flawed and needs fixing. He has stated that the Constitution fails to lay out what the Government should do for its citizens, such as healthcare, housing and basic services. He believes in "Tax Justice" whereby the government redistributes the wealth according to a Centrally Planned, Politically Correct mandate.

He is a practicing demagogue, promising anything you want to hear, but delivers just the opposite. Heck, while he signed the most enormous "ear-marked" bill in history, his teleprompter told us how that was not happening. The same with Lobbyists, theives and liars in his cabinet.

Obama has no idea what he is doing. He is runnig amuck and the MSM is running cover for him. They keep saying, "The King's New Clothes Are Wonderful"

Am I the only one noticing this insanity? Am in the twilight zone?

Maybe to a fascist this is a grand plan, but to a lover of freedom, like me, this is hell, defined.

daft the fool
daft the idiot continues his denial of news reports.

Obviously you only rely on what you handlers from moveon and kos tell you of what the messiah sends you over the internet.

But you continue to prove that denial is all you understand. Anything that is reported that is negative for your messiah and savior is always a lie in you feeble mind.

And it is easy to understand why your pathetic life is that of a substitute teacher. But there is hope that the students in the school district will learn that you are amongst those terminated by the district as being totally incompetant'

We at th already witness your daily delusions concerning flap ears

Loony
"Most Americans love to hear him speak,"

Except when he doesn't have his teleprompter. Then he's pretty horrendous.

"they are proud to be Americans again."

Some of us have never been ashamed to be Americans. I'm sorry you don't love your country, but you're welcome to move somewhere else. In fact, a lot of you liberals promised to do that when Bush was reelected in 2004. Why did you lie to us?

The fact is, Obama's poll numbers are on the decline (kind of like the economy). Of course, he recently said the fundamentals of our economy are sound (didn't he rake McCain over the coals for saying something similar?). If his poll numbers continue to slide, the Democrats will probably try to abolish elections before they're voted out of office.

cactushead
Still grumpy, huh? Have you tried a laxative?

daft the troll
as usual you can't defend your messiah and think you are being cute posting stupidity. Get this one point straight'

I consider you to be the dumbest of all the trolls that shows up here. You are that delusional that you refuse to accept any criticism of your messiah.

I have asked many times for you to defend this reckless spending and to date have never answered that question.

In the future if you won't refute my points, scroll by and annoy someone else. Your childish retorts is typical of lefties who can't defend by try and deflect the discussion

But acting the idiot does suit you well. You are truly that blind to everything going on with flap ears and the corrupt dims in congress.

Gee Ken
you make me feel young again...in the 1960's, when we protested that horrible Vietnam debacle, people like you would tell us "America, love it or leave it". Well, we loved our country then, and we love it now. One need not be proud of a country that thinks torture is a good thing (even your presidential nominee said that people were being tortured at Gitmo). One need not be proud of a president who substitutes bravado (bring 'em on) at the cost of thousands of young American lives. One need not be proud of a president who takes us to war based on, at a minimum, false evidence, and then leaves us in that war indefinitely. One need not be proud of a country that spends its money in Iraq but not in New Orleans. One need not be proud of a country that predicates its foreign aid on Christian fundamentalist nonsensical beliefs like abstinence only.

I've heard Obama speak many times without a teleprompter. His press conferences are brilliant and funny and full of information. I know that Rush and Hannity tell you not to believe your ears, but he's a great speaker, with or without the teleprompter. Bush was neither.