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Tuesday, December 16, 2008
Dennis Prager :: Townhall.com Columnist
Minorities Should Express Shame, Not Only Pride
by Dennis Prager
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Gay Pride. Jewish Pride. Black pride. Hispanic Pride.

Multiculturalism.

Ethnic pride. Minority rights vs. tyranny of the majority.

For a generation, America has been awash in the celebration of minorities and minorities celebration of themselves. Just recall Black is Beautiful or I am a woman, I am invincible.

At the same time, the majority group in America -- white Christians -- has been allowed to celebrate very little. Rather, they have constantly been reminded of what they should be ashamed of -- their racism, sexism, homophobia, patriarchy, and xenophobia -- real and alleged.

But what about minority shame?

Why does one almost never hear expressions of group shame from members of any American group other than white Christians (specifically, white Christian male heterosexuals)? Are the only evildoers in America white male heterosexual Christians? Is there something inherently wrong about members of minorities expressing anything but group pride? Are there no minority sins worthy of shame? The latter is in fact the argument advanced by many intellectuals concerning black racism, for example. For a generation, college students have been taught that it is impossible for blacks to be racist because only the racial group in power, i.e. whites, can express racism.

Of course, that is nonsense. A black can be a racist just as a white can be one. A minority race might not have the power to implement racist national policies but that hardly means that no minority group, or any individual, can be a racist.

All this came to mind recently when, by coincidence, I read two things about the minority group of which I am a member -- Jews. I just completed reading Anthony Beevors The Fall of Berlin 1945, in which the author writes that in the midst of the massive rape of German women (millions of girls and women of all ages) by Red Army troops, Jewish officers in the Red Army were known to be the one group that protected German girls and women. In Beevors words, Red Army officers who were Jewish went out of their way to protect German women and girls.

I fully admit to a sense of Jewish pride when I read that.

The next day I read a news report that because of the objections of one kindergartners mother, a public school in North Carolina had banned the singing of Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer because the song contained the word Christmas. I blame the school officials first and foremost for this craven and foolish decision. But when the news report noted that the woman was Jewish, my heart sank. Just as I had read the Beevor report and felt a surge of Jewish pride, I read the North Carolina story and felt a surge of Jewish shame.

It was a surge of Jewish shame that years ago led to one of the largest demonstrations of Israeli Jews in Israels history. They were demonstrating against the massacre of Palestinians in the Sabra and Chatilla refugee camps in Lebanon. The killings were committed by Lebanese Christian militias, but they took place while Israel occupied that area of Lebanon.

It would seem, then, that group shame is a good thing.

There are at least three reasons:

1. It is maturing. Only children think only well of themselves. A group that only expresses pride is essentially a group of children.

2. If one expresses group pride, one is morally obligated to express group shame. Obviously, this does not apply to any person who does not identify with, let alone take pride in being a member of, a group.

3. If only the majority group is expected to express shame, then only the majority group is expected to be governed by rules of morality. It is, ironically, the highest moral compliment to Americas white Christians that they are the only American group of whom expressions of shame are expected. It means more is morally expected of them than of anyone else.

The relative absence of expressions of shame in the Muslim world over the atrocities committed in Islams name is an example of the above. The labeling of blacks who express shame over disproportionate rates of violent crime and out-of-wedlock births in the black community as Uncle Toms is another. The absence of any expression of shame in the gay community over the current blacklisting -- and attempts to economically destroy -- anyone who donated to the California proposition defining marriage as between a man and a woman is another example. When Sen. Joseph McCarthy blacklisted people in Hollywood for real or alleged support for the Communist Party, he was finally shut up with the words, Have you no shame, sir?

Expressing group shame when morally necessary is not airing dirty linen or giving solace to ones ideological enemies. It is, rather, one of the highest expressions of moral development. And it is therefore universally applicable. Being a minority doesnt exempt its members from moral responsibility. It will be a great day for America and the world when minorities begin to express shame as well as pride. In fact, there is real pride in expressing shame. Minorities should give it a try.

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McCarthism bull is out of place, vulgar
"When Sen. Joseph McCarthy blacklisted people in Hollywood for real or alleged support for the Communist Party, he was finally shut up with the words, Have you no shame, sir?"

Sir, you need to get up to speed on this honorable man who was himself "Blacklisted By History. Your statement is reprehensible.

THE ASSAULT
The assault of the left is not on white Euro males, it is on white CHRISTIAN males.

The historical record: White Christian males stopped Islamic Jihad at Tours and Vienna in the middle ages. White Christian males virtually eradicated slavery in the world. White Christian males stopped the excesses of the various inquisitions.

See any of these achievements in the revised history books used to indoctrinate students today?

Give credit where credit is due.

One thing wrong
I agree with everything Dennis wrote, except
Senator Joe McCarthy investigated and named Communists and Communist sympathisers in the US government. He had nothing to do with naming Hollywood people. A Congressional committee did that.

Wow bigotry in motion

It is amazing - the very mention of what may be wrong in America in relation to minority groups immediately reduces to "race" groups by the left.

I wasn't aware that gay or woman communities were all one race (or men - how does that work)??!

Meanwhile the leftist bigotry is rampant against white "European" males.

What about the many colors of females like Hutchinson, Palin, Braun, Mc Kinney, Blanco, Pelosi and Clinton, or how about the black/latino and other ethnic men in government like Wrangle, Young, Washington, Bradley, Brown, Hastings, Jindal, Richardson... ?

With our diverse country in all walks of government, do you really believe that just the white "European" males have lead us to where we are today?

If you do you are fooling yourself.

But if you do, then you also will have to give white males the credit for 232 years of incredible achievement and growth of the greatest "super power" nation on earth. You can't give blame and not credit if you really believe it's all white males doing.








con'td
prager described himself as a "loud" kid in high school, one who wouldn't shut up, and even mock-pitied his teachers. It's a testament to the sorry state of this country that Dennis is now paid to do what exactly he was punished for in high school. In my mind, he'll always be that loudmouth kid in the remedial class.

thanks for the memories, Big D!

con'td
- He has an amazing lack of self-awareness, which I suggest he should investigate before telling anyone to feel race shame. After bragging on his high school smarts, he assured the radio audience that he was certain none of the "gifted" kids, now adults, were any "happier" than him. Really? Can someone who actually concieves of topics like: "minorities should feel more race shame" be ANYONE'S definition of "happy"? (Not mentioning, of course, that his example of jewish shame HE assumes is ridiculous; he's talking about the private actions of an indivdual who happens to be jewish, compared to actions which are DEFINED by their occurence within a specific demographic. But of course his example would be flaccid; prager ignores any of the genuinely shameful behavior on the part of his "group", radical right-wingers, as we expect him to. Isn't it obvious that this is just another "do as I say, not as I do" -type condemnation, veiled racism masquerading as critical thought?)

We know prager REALLY wants us to compare his FINANCIAL status with the present $$$s of the now-adult "gifted" kids he "wasn't jealous of at all". And this after a posturing declamation that material wealth is irrelevant to happiness! I'm telling you, give him 5 minutes and he'll contradict himself. And don't try to call him if you have any intelligent opposition; he'll find some peripheral excuse to cut you off, such as suggesting that your argument is "not what you told the call screener". What? Does adjusting argument even matter, in the realm of debate? Or is he telling us he can only deal with arguments he has time to prepare for, or perhaps have an intern prepare for him? I think the latter is more likely.


cont'd
- reading his columns one is always struck by his impotent desperation in squeezing his hateful diatribe through the rather limited funnel of his vocabulary skills and writing acumen, but...really? To suggest that ALL the kids in the remedial class were JUST as smart as the gifted kids? It defies belief. He protests too much, as usual, and in doing so reveals yet another corner of his frustrated inetllectual scar tissue, which has apparentlty been developing his whole life.

To whit: Prager rails against higher education institutions, condeming them for "liberal brainwashing", yet manages to appear more pedantic, posturing, and instructive than ANY other right-wing talker. Prager imagines himself, clearly, as a Medved sort, and is obviously frustrated that his credentials don't back this up. He attacks "studies" by professional theorists and scientists, suggesting they are meritless....yet repeatedly references statistics and alludes to situations in much the same way.


Dennis as a boy....
It's really quite shocking just how pedantic prager can be; every day he introduces some new topic about which his expert advice is indepensable, from marriage counseling ("male / female hour") to all the world's most complex problems ("ultimate issues") ....our boy dennis tackles them all. I've long pondered where this declamatory, patronizing instinct in his personality stems from, and as of yesterday I think i've gotten a clue to the puzzle that is prager's angry, pseudo-intellectual front.

While attacking the idea of "gifted" classes in elementary schools, (apparently unaware that the mental stimulation a child recieves in his formative years is central to eventual intellectual development, and also that the state of education in today's "regular" public school classes is shockingly deficient) prager revealed yet another facet of his intellectual p*nis envy, key to his blustering radio persona: apparently in dennis's private school, children were subdivided into four classes based on academic achievment. By his own admission Dennis spent 9th and some of 10th grade in the lowest level, then rose to the second-lowest level for the remainder of his high school career. But does Dennis admire that children who were in the higher levels, then or now? Heck No! In fact, he stated that "none of the kids in the gifted classes were any smarter than ANY of the kids in his low-level class; those 'gifted' kids were "study hounds" and he simply thought school was about "laughing". What? So he was a screw up, that's not hard to accept

Good point
And a person who is getting the holy crap beat out of him by somebody ten times his size should stop every few seconds to apologize for every scrape he manages to inflict. Only somebody who writes for (or reads) Clown Hall could think there is no shame in minority communities.

And isn't it about time we put the Jews back into the ghettos where they belong? They're starting to demand to be treated like first class citizens. Imagine, requesting a Hanukkah song in the Christmas Pageant. The gall!

Karen
I tend to think that just correcting current injustices that I alluded to above should suffice to correct much
of the current injustices, because
such measures should obtain grass roots support soon, because Americans are now figuring out they've been duped, and the sleeping giant will wake up once again just long enough to close the window and turn off the late night TV, which is probably about all it will take to fix the problem.

Why do you use the phrase "Euro-American"?

Because immigrants have arrived in America from other parts of the world besides Europe over the past 45 years, I now have to refer to myself as a "Euro-American", instead of an American? No thanks. I'm an American.

A Euro-American sounds rather quaint to my ears, and I'd not enjoy being referred to as one.

If you are looking for a good leader, I think Tom Tancredo does the best job I've seen yet of setting the standard for what kind of person is needed. Class, common sense, and lack of pretensiousness, and a complete lack of any sense of guilt or shame for being American, are the elements needed.

TO CHIP
Interesting post. I liked what you said. However, I still think Euro-Americans need a charismatic leader who will speak up for us, since no one else is doing it. We are overwhelmed with newcomers who demand all sorts of expensive services that our government can no longer afford. Our Euro forebears who homesteaded this country are forgotten. Their descendants are rapidly being pushed aside, as the newcomers make noisy demands and protests. This is a plea for a leader of Euro-Americans. If we're organized, we too can lead protests, marches, and make noisy demands. Our government always caves to the downtrodden, so they are sure to scurry to meet our demands. All we need is a catchy name, a slogan fit for a bumper sticker, and a high profile leader.

look at the Senate and House
and tell me that the white male Christian majority has lost control of the country. Again, what rot.

Why is there illegal immigration? Because the white power structure looked the other way, in some cases simply declined to enforce the law. You can try to blame 'sanctuary cities', but the reason all these people are here is because we do not enforce simple laws. Do you realize how many people use fake SS numbers, yet nothing is done? The powerful want cheap labor. When they can't get it here, they send our jobs overseas. The dirty little secret is that those in power don't care about their own fellow, taxpaying citizens. If they could reinstitute slavery they would. They want a beholden working class, nothing more, nothing less. They want to be able to create 'part-time' jobs that involve just less work per day so they don't have to pay benefits.

You are the fools they love. You listen to Rush and all the other mouthpieces like Prager (and even a Prager doesn't realize he is simply a tool designed to keep the masses in place) and convince yourself that you are somehow being hurt by that illegal immigrant who is working for pennies per hour cutting lawns, when in fact it is the guy who hires him, who has multiple houses, etc, because he shipped all the decent jobs to India or the Phillipines.

Stop blaming the least powerful in the US.

Author's advice would be ignored
I don't think minorities will take up the author's advice anytime soon. For the most part, they're quite happy wiping their feet on, and quietly revelling in any injustices against, the American majority, who are completely brainwashed into being the accomodating, acquiescing, and docile doormats they have been programmed to be for the last generation or so.

Mainstream Americans need to
develop a balanced and gracious moral courage, like that of recent presidential candidate Tom Tancredo, to retake control of their own country. As for the other groups without the shame, their role cannot be to redefine America in this manner and tell America what to do.

The solution here, as I see it, is for America to protect its borders and culture and abandon references to race, etc, in its policies. And let
people emply who they wish to employ,
associate with who they wish to associate. Our lives are not to be lived and eventually sacrificed and forgotten, just to stay in accordance with some new government mandate. The PEOPLE are to tell the government what to do.

Some may see this will lead to advantages to the majority group, but that's about as perfect a union as any country can be. Those who are still not happy about being a minority who can't find a city or state or another country that suits them, will just have to accept the disadvantages entailed by refusing to be American in America.


What rot by Prager
Ask yourself this question, folks: Would you rather be a white, male, Christian American, or anything else? No group of people has been more successful in the world, often stepping over and on the backs of women, minorities, other religions. Muslims and others do not hate Americans because of what our minorities have done or not done, but because of what our established government and businesses have done, stolen, etc. This isn't 'blaming' or 'shaming' the majority in this country, it is simply making historical note of bad things done in the name of white Christian American males, whether wiping out Native American tribes, enslaving Africans to work on plantations, denying women the vote, denying gay rights. Shame tends to be a self-projection, not something imposed from outside oneself.

As for the atrocities of other countries and cultures, including our own minority Americans, no one is letting them off the hook when we address the issues caused by white Christian male Americans. You can multi-task in this world. I find it funny that someone like Prager, whose grandparents were probably subject to all kinds of latent and patent prejudice as they walked down mainly Christian American streets in places like NYC and Philadelphia at the beginning of the 20th century (my own grandmother remembered being spit upon and called a "dirty Jew whore" as she walked to high school in parts of Philadelphia in the 1910's...). The worst kind of apologist is someone who now identifies with his tormentors.

Anne in PA location/silly La Raza
I probably misused the term reservation. It is ancestral land that has never been part of the US and can only be legally inherited by decendents of tribal owners.

I was in Canyon de Chelley near Chinle, on the Navajo nation in the NE part of AZ. Then I was in the Antelope slot canyon and on Lake Powell at the AZ/UT border which is bordered by Navajo land to the east. Monument Valley is a part of that area, and probably the most familiar images of AZ to Americans who have never been here.

I am not saying I take sides in that argument between Mexicans and Native Americans, but I am always amused by a Mexican making the argument that the SW is theirs because they were here first. I want to know if by that logic, why they are not quick to hand it over to Native Americans since they were actually there first.

And why would a few people who have left Mexico for a better life with more opportunity be so quick to argue their new country be under the control of their native or ancestral land that has proved to have failed their own citizens in the first place? It's so silly.


EUROPEAN AMERICANS UNITE
We are the new minority. Hispanics, blacks, Asians, Muslims, outnumber us. This is a plea for a new leader to step up for us. Preferably someone with Reverend attached to his/her name. Someone who can organize us for marches, protests, demands, etc. Being the new minority on the block is great for us. Our government always caves to minorities. We can cry Discrimination when fired; Discrimination when not hired; Discrimination if police shoot a fleeing white felon; Discrimination if turned down for a loan. (Maybe get $50,000 like so many black farmers were awarded.) Our new leader must have great influence and persuade all members that criminal acts would diminish our creds. All marches, demands, and protests must be peaceful. First demand suggestion: No more white label. Euro-American. It's easier to say than African-American. Signed, Still Free in Cajunland

Minorities
Please do not be concerned, white christians will soon be the minority, then we can demonstrate how to express shame as well as pride.
Andy.

First time Mr Prager how I do?
The problem is not that the minorities do not feel this way. The problem is that the minorities are not the majority. As soon as they get to 51% they will take a look around and see who they can start kicking off there team. Until they reach that point they will stand hand in hand in minority’s solidarity. Think for a second that a minority male is walking down the street and sees two homosexual males of a different race and thinks bigoted thoughts. Now do you think his thoughts would change if he saw the same but of his race or just his actions showing how he disprovable? A minority knows what it feels like to be a minority. So they will not make a minority sub group out of a minority until they are the majority. The fastest way to do this is by ripping down and splintering the majority so it is so fragmented that they become the majority by default. Then see how fast they turn on each other.

WILLIAM
And this is your rebuttal to THers?: "DR Alveda King is a pro-life speaker and often speaks on college campuses about pro-life issues.[citation needed]

She endorsed Senator Sam Brownback for the 2008 Republican nomination.[1].

She also supports the passage of Proposition 8. She signed her name to a full-page ad in the Dec. 5, 2008 New York Times that objected to violence and intimidation against religious institutions and believers in the wake of the passage of Proposition 8. The ad stated that "violence and intimidation are always wrong, whether the victims are believers, gay people, or anyone else." A dozen other religious and human rights activists from several different faiths also signed the ad.[2]."

She sounds more MLK Jr. than MLK III (or Coretta) does, who you cited.

Tommie Miller, president of the Montgomery Improvement Association, which once worked with Martin Luther King, Jr. in guiding the Montgomery bus boycott, asked the Los Angeles Times of King III, "What's he really done in life?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_III


MLK III praised John Edwards in 2008, even after Edwards' love child incident broke in 2007.

http://johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20080121-mlk3/

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/john_edwards_love_child/cel ebrity/64426

Also note the traditional religious values of Rev. Bernice King, youngest daughter of MLK Jr.:

http://www.priestsforlife.org/clippings/2005/05-01-17king.h tm

Good article, Mr Prager
When Muslims and blacks and women and minorities subject their own group identities to self-criticism, wthe rest of us may begin to look upon them as equals and as adults.

Until then we can only (at best) patronize them with our silence, and note among ourselves that we are really just dealing with children. Without shame, these groups are unformed, still not risen to a state of full maturity.

That is the thing about self-criticism and shame. Fires such as these, painful though they be, they must be self-aplied and self-felt. Accusations of racism and sexism will simply be a fact until these groups actually pass through the fire into adulthood.
For it is true that people who hold themselves accountable become adults and implicilty recognize that the state of responsible adulthood is of a higher order than the state of perpetual childish dependence.

And as long as women and blacks and homosexuals and Muslims hold white males as being responsible for all their ills, they will never be accountable for themselves.

It is accountability that actually differentiates the child from the adult.

MORE IN-DEPTH ON CHE
See link below:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=50C84DE 3-56E9-44C4-B7E7-43305CB15405

Someone must have stepped on the airhose to the brain of anyone who rates this guy!

Minorities Should Express Shame
Dennis, Dennis, Dennis, I can't believe that you
wrote that Joe McCarthy Blacklisted people in Hollywood. The blacklist you wrote of was implemented by Hollywood people themselves and McCArthy had nothing to do with it.

Also the famous statement by Joe Welch, the opposing attorney in the McCarthy/Army hearings was a total setup. The person McCarthy "outed" had actually been in the press recently and McCarthy did nothing wrong.

There certainly is much to criticize McCarthy for, but I recommend that you read some of the recent books about him so you will be knowledgable about the entire matter.

CHE GUEVARA MASS MURDERER III
Castro and Guevara also aspired to mass murder on a far bigger stage. In 1961, the Soviets installed nuclear missiles in Cuba . The Soviet Union's then Premier, Nikita Khrushchev, documents in his memoirs how Castro begged him in October 1962 to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack on the United States. The telegram making the plea sits in the Kennedy Library today.

Khrushchev's fear of Castro somehow getting hold of the nuclear launch buttons was a probably bigger factor in his decision to remove the missiles than the Kennedy administration's shipping blockade of Cuban ports.

The prudence of Khrushchev's decision was revealed the following month by Castro's second-in-command, Che Guevara. "If the missiles had remained," he told The London Daily Worker in November 1962, "we would have used them against the very heart of the US , including New York . We must never establish peaceful co-existence. In this struggle to the death between two systems we must gain the ultimate victory. We must walk the path of liberation even if it costs millions of atomic victims."

This just goes to what a good Communist Guevara actually was. Communism regards entire groups and social classes as "diseased" and marked for extermination.

As Guevara’s intellectual mentor, Lenin once said: "You can't make an omelette without breaking an egg."

His successor, Stalin put it more baldly: "A single death is a tragedy. A million deaths are a statistic."

The continuing love affair on the part of the West's media and many of its intellectuals with Che Guevara effectively whitewashes this depraved mass murderer, making him look to the uninitiated like a man of honour and decency.

Lenin aptly described such blinkered enablers of the socialist project as "useful idiots."

Repeat after me, ding-bat: Commies are not cool.

Sh*twad!

CHE GUEVARA MASS MURDERER II
Most 'scholars' now wrongly claim that the slaughter ended after the first few months and only involved a handful of criminal elements of the previous Batista regime. This is arrant nonsense.

In December 1964 Che addressed the U.N. General Assembly. "Yes, we execute," he declared to the claps and cheers of that august body. "And we will keep executing as long as it is necessary. This is a war to the death against the Revolution's enemies."

According to the Black Book of Communism those executions had reached 14,000 by the end of the decade. Cuba is a small country. In American terms, this would amount to more than three million executions.

On the eve of his trip to New York , Che gave a speech in Santiago , Cuba where he declared: "We must learn the lesson of absolute abhorrence of imperialism. Against that class of hyena there is no other medium than extermination!"


CHE GUEVARA MASS MURDERER I
Hoi William the A-Hole:

Che Guevara, (whose likeness still plasters the T-shirts of aging campus radicals and young socialist wannabes throughout the Western world) was no "humanitarian" but a ruthless killer.

According to emigre Cuban historian, Humberto Fontova, one of Fidel Castro's first actions on gaining power in 1959 was to abolish due process and appoint Che Guevara his main executioner. "To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary," Guevara declared. "These procedures are an archaic bourgeois detail. This is a revolution! And a revolutionary must become a cold killing machine motivated by pure hate. We must create the pedagogy of the paredon [execution wall ]."


I'm not gettin' this
New to the blog-a-sphere. What the the hell do you people do for a life? How about discussing what Mr. Prager wrote about, w/o all the drama. Tit-for-tat crapola. Make a point that's relevant to the article, if you're capable. Wow...

TERRORISTS HAVE NO RIGHTS
Allen wrote:

"an action is never morally right by virtue of being less heinous and and morally wrong than some act someone else is committing elsewhere.

"Clearly, I agree that terrorism is wrong. But the wrongness of terrorism does not make torture in response to it less wrong. It merely degrades us as a nation."

That's called a 'moral equivalence' argument.

Clearly there is no moral equivalence between the deliberate, murderous terrorist acts perpetrated by Islamists and a little physical and psycological discomfort imposed on these scumbags when captured to extract information likely to prevent further outrages.

Terrorists have NO RIGHTS!

Pancho: Did you EVER stop to think that

perhaps Shiprock is in the condition it's in BECAUSE of the rampant alcoholism?

But, I guess, the really appropriate question is, "Do you ever stop to think?"


GROUP PRIDE
Until someone takes the responsibility of the pride or shame in their own actions, that person will be nothing. Taking pride because someone of your own race accomplishes something and proudly claiming, because you are of a similar ethnic heritage, satisfaction as if you had done it yourself. Real pride and shame is your own first. The joiners of the world who base the majority of their existence on becoming part of subgroups based on race, religion, sexual orientation,etc, are truly an empty lot. Tribalism is primative. Yes, it is a part of life, but until one can look at ideas and ethics beyond one's own tribe, there will be shackles on what that person can accomplish. Why is this important? The U.S. became most successful country in history by allowing individual productivity and ingenuity to be grown, not suppressed by some dictatorship or totalitarian regime. The poor countries are ones where a few people control everything and do not allow individual people to realize their own potential. Yes, there may be limits to your own life base on race, religions,etc. But they are small and should be discovered by yourself, not dictated by some idiot political demagogues.

the 5th
cannot post an honest answer here lest I incriminate myself.

The Navajo Nation
A couple weeks ago I drove from Salt Lake to Albuquerque and back.

Shiprock, New Mexico, in the heart of the Navajo Nation, is about the most embarrassing town to be found anywhere in this country.

Now I know why the Navajos have such a high rate of alcoholism. If I lived in Shiprock, I'd want to be drunk all the time too.

Anne, Geek
Have a good evening!

Anne,
I think there must be a problem with the water in the Houston area since Ike.

Homeschool Mom: That Navajo reservation

wouldn't happen to be Piñon, would it???


Ret Geek: You've also provided a perfect

description of wee weenie william from NJ.


WOW
WOW WOW WOW and a couple thousand more. Dennis, you have won my heart.

Liberals aren't wired properly

Liberals are handicapped by a type of serious mental disorder called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined.

The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue.

Those who are afflicted with Liberalism have problems with recollections of their mis-deeds and total recall with mis-deeds of opposers.

Truth relativism increases proportionately when facts are not congruent with their statements.

Rationalizations increase dramatically when behavior is spotlighted.

Ambiguity becomes straightforward answers.

Opinions become knowledge and facts become appraisals formed in the mind.

Dysfunctional behavior is normal and normal behavior is dysfunctional.

Deviate behavior is normal and normal behavior is unenlightened.

Empathy for criminals proportionately increases while sympathy for the criminals victim decreases.

Sins of the guilty should be paid for by the innocent.

Responsibility of ones actions and decisions are clearly the fault of others.

"Please relax," say Liberals, like stewards in an airliner with only one wing and two engines, one of which is on fire, "you are perfectly safe in our hands

Summers: I does appear that wee weenie

william has had his due...

His true colors are showing... Ha Ha Ha Ha...

It's obvious, wee weenie william is just an idiot troll who fits Dr. Rossiter's description of a true "clinically crazy liberal."



Tom

Are you a Libertarian?

Rayc55 et al

I am a supporter of the campaign that Dr Childress is head of.

He has given me permission to post his ideas and literature - I am not Dr Childress.

Keep up your good work!

Dennis
What about GOP minority shame? This seemingly slow-witted minority made it possible for a black guy to be elected president by voting into power a totally inept president. Twice.

Now there is some industrial grade shame!

William of NJ
I don't think 'shame' should be what we are searching for as much as personal responsibility. Pride can be a good thing; it's herd mentality that is the negative.

Regards

Rev. Clenard H. Childress Jr.,
Reverend, an abbreviated version of your letter is what I hand out to the people who pass by the PP location where I along with other pro-lifers, stand silent, prayerful vigils.They all express shock at what they have read. But,to date we have not been able to get members of the black community to join us.

Willie...
"Viva LA RAZA"

Typical...

Retired Geek... Reply # 253

Excellent Post!

Barack has big issues... Each half of himself hates the other half.

The Democrats think they elected an "International Man of Mystery"...

Instead they got a stupid cookie.

William NJ-reality check
When I was on a Navajo reservation a few years ago they had a very different point of view about who originally owned this land and their list of countries and peoples who stole it is a little longer than yours.

Our employer verification laws have resulted in fewer people with your views being in the state, so your support here is dwindling. Many places of business known for hiring illegals in the past are now putting e-verify signs in the windows and the construction industry is grinding to a halt now that the housing bubble burst.

My sister in law works for a school district known for having a very high number of students whose parents are here illegally. Teachers are being laid off because those families are seeking employment in other states.

I hope some efforts are being made on your part to improve plight of Mexican citizens residing in Mexico. History shows that people unable to manage lands in their own hands have a hard time conquering and managing new ones. Besides, Mexicans in Mexico deserve a serious improvement in their legal, educational, and economic systems. Who better than people concerned people like you to take up their cause?

Barack Obama and Black Genocide

Although black women constitute only 6% of the population, they comprise 36% of the abortion industry’s clientele.

The leading abortion providers have chosen to exploit blacks by locating 94% of their abortuaries in urban neighborhoods with high black populations.

This high rate of abortion has decimated the black family and destroyed black neighborhoods to the detriment of society at large.

1,452 African-American children are killed each day by the heinous act of abortion.

3 out of 5 pregnant African-American women will abort their child.

"...For those of you that don't know, Barack Obama became a "minister" of Planned Parenthood a long time ago.

He's so good at carrying out their racist, murderous, agenda against Afro-Americans and society at large, they gave him a 100% score on his voting record.

Planned Parenthood is following the strategy of their racist founder, Margaret Sanger, to the letter. Planed Parenthood is saying, “We have our poster boy!

Get him out in front as a lure for their women and men. Get them into our abortion clinics and dismember their children by the millions!”

You say absurd? No Way!

Planned Parenthood’s Valentine cards were sent out to hundreds of thousands of young people in the nation.

Whose face is plainly seen waving to them with a big smile?

Whose endorsement is given to this racist and calloused organization?

Who is used to lure children to give credibility to its hideous plot?

Barack Obama, that's who!..."

By Rev. Clenard H. Childress Jr.,
March 5, 2008
http://www.blackgenocide.org/obama.html

willy the spic
now you are singing the praises of the racist la raza.We see the slave market every day here in ariz where functionally illiterate illegals hang out on corners begging for work.

But the idea that any society can be built on the backs of functionally illiterate illegals unable to function in english and more adept at picking lettuce and mowing grass reains a la raza fantasy.

But we do know that these illegals have no trouble breaking our laws, stealing our social services, committing crimes and breeding like rats.

If they are such industrious and hard workers why haven't they made that 3rd world cesspool they come from a success.

Easier to steal from others than to earn it yourself must be the answer. Better we load up the busses and ship these parasites back to their countries of origins.

Legal immigrants are welcome but illegals should be sent home along with the lice they use as anchor babies to stay here

William
I don't know if you are serious or not, but you have to admit I am right. People currently celebrating the coming demographic death of the Republican party seem to think it means that the Democrat party will be in power, but they never consider that it could be a different party altogether or that the Democrat party they now know won't change at all.

I personally think you might see a real balkanization in the country that precludes any one let alone two party unity. We may have many different political parties representing niche groups.

We will find ourselves with some interesting problems like possibly Sharia law in pockets of the US, movements to cede the SW to Mexico, blacks angry at a loss of political power as their importance continues to decline, and angry people of all persuasions if Hispanics are still granted affirmative action when Asians and Caucasians are not -- yet Hispanics would be the majority and have the most power.

We might also find that new immigrants do not want to support a bunch of old white people with SS and medicare. Conversely, we may find that the white middle class taxpayer does not want to support a government that they believe has no place for them.

William
What a grand contradiction to give someone an award for the "advancement of social justice and human dignity," and then call the award the Margaret Sanger Award! She was a promoter of abortion as a means to wipe out minorities. For MLK to accept an award named after her is but one more example of why he should be nothing more than a footnote in history.

Oh and before you dance a jig LeftAngle
you might want to consider that most of our recent immigrants come from extremely socially conservative countries. So what would you think if the hated Republicans are out of power forever but the Democrats or whatever poliotical party is in power is against abortion, and homosexuals, etc?

A BIG YES TO THIS ESSAY
What about these black organizations with black in the title...Black Caucus, Black Realtors, etc. Can you imagine an organization called White something or other? There'd be no end to the outrage and dissent. Black in the title means racism. To believe otherwise is to be delirious. Or bereft of logic at the least. But remember how the pendulum swings? People are getting sick of the whole thing. Enough already! Change the channel.

LeftAngle
I can answer your question. When whites make up less than 50% of the US population, we will again have a majority: Hispanics.

Now I never knew Hispanics were a seaparate race until recently I thought there were black hispanics, white hispanics, and Indian Hispanics with some mixed race Hispanics, but I digress.

Anyway, I'm not to worried about political parties because at the rate we are going they will both be run by Hispanics if they even still exist. Liberal Democrats gleeful at the prospect of a white minority and what they think is one party rule ad infinitum might want to consider that the one party rule they get may be nothing like either of our current political parties as we will have a majority population made up of people that in many cases choose not to assimilate and may have very different ideas about how we should all be governed.

MINORITY SHAME.
Their biggest shame and danger is in electing a man who supports Black Genocide. As a pro-life supporter I have spent many hours in cold, wind, and rain praying in front of a Planned Parenthood site in a black neighborhood. I have pleaded with ministers of the local churches, handed out material quoting MLK denouncing PP as a racist organization and evidence of PP's bigotry and I have NEVER had a black person from the community join us in prayers.

William
MLK is nothing but an over-glorified martyr for the so-called civil rights movement.

He was a Republican not because he believed in the Republican ideals, but because he was opposed to the Democrats who were responsible for things like the Jim Crow laws, and should not be considered as a representative of conservative principals. But then, what does say about Democrats?

Change I can believe in
The change this country needs is for the guilty whites to finally dismiss their guilt (they have gone overboard to the point where they are screwing up this country) and allow the so-called minorities to pick up the slack of demonstrating their guilt since they have a lot of work to do.

William Location: NJ Reply # 224
Don't go read it, no skin off my nose.
He was in the way of thinking give all men the same tools and the same opportunity's and a level playing field. Not welfare, not food stamps, not a hand out, but a hand up.
I feel for people who do not understand what he was after for his people, and what he gave his life for.
Equality, the stuff dreams are made of.
That alone makes him a Republican.

Palin/Jindal in 2012!

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Peso George, Pardon Ramos and Compean before you leave office!!!

EVERYONE HAS A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY....
LIBS JUST DON'T HAVE ANY FILM!


William - NJ
I have a question , why is it ok for THE US and its European ancestors to have come to this land , raped and killed the native population, force language and customs , and now that the shoe is on the other foot is not ok
You are all Illegal on this land , unless your a native -- william

========================

This could be said of many countries not just the USA. Really a silly argument. The Israel Palestinian argument has raged on for centuries. We need to learn to live together LEGALLY. This means following immigration laws.


Allen the non-conservative
Allen, you are not a conservative. You are a Goldwater wingnut that fell off the wing tip a long time ago. Goldwater was a fiscally-conservative liberal who rejected the influence of personal morals in politics. The consequences of this are rather evident in Goldwater's associations with known racketeers and extortionists. Whenever the Republican party follows in Goldwater's treads (McCain) it will fail.

"If you're proud of GITMO, you aren't conservative, and you are a poor excuse for an American. You're a coward who would sacrifice the ideals of liberty and human dignity our forefathers stood for out of fear, for security, or out of passion, for revenge. I am better than you and America is better than you."

Would those be our same forefathers, who gave the government the ability to suspend habeus corpus when public safety requires it, whose ideals you just called "cowardly?" Habeus corpus is the primary liberal argument against "Gitmo." It is not a right, but a privilege, according to our founders, which is extended to the lawful citizens of the United States. You are a useful idiot to your very core!

Also, anyone who understands the purpose and function of human sexuality is certainly "better" than you.

Great article overall, wrong on McCarthy
~~When Sen. Joseph McCarthy blacklisted people in Hollywood for real or alleged support for the Communist Party~~

Now we have to hear this tripe from alleged conservatives.

McCarthy was a Senator, and so didn't have the authority to blacklist people in Hollywood. The studio heads and other Hollywood bigshots did that. Why do they avoid blame? They were cowards for blacklisting if they didn't really believe in it.

However, it should be noted, many in Hollywood WERE in fact communists AND were tilting their movies toward communism. Many books, esp. recent ones, have proven this beyond any doubt.

Amen, amen, amen,
A thousand times Amen!

Let the days of the whiney minority be over!

Barry Dunham is our president elect. It's done!

Bring back Merry Christmas to our school system! Bring back that we are ALL the same. Red and Yellow Black and White Jesus loves them in his sight. Jesus loves the little children of the world!

the coming white minority
The U.S. Census Bureau has stated that by 2042
White americans will be the minority of the U.S. population.

Politically speaking, does this realignment which has shown roots in Dem Prez elect Ogama's
recent election, mean that wont be seeing any
Republican POTUS or majority led Congresses in the near-far future if they DONT adjust?

Say tuned?

WILLIAM
NICE TRY!!!

It is not (and has not been) uncommon for Republicans to criticize their own party, like MLK's critique you quoted about the Goldwater convention.

It is not uncommon for Democrats to revise history for political gain.

I am more inclined to believe the following due to Democrat registration restrictions in the segregated South:


"The fact that Dr. King was a Republican is affirmed by Dr. King’s niece, Dr. Alveda C. King, in an article and video posted on the website of the National Black Republican Association at http://www.NBRA.info." Alveda is an avowed registered Democrat.

Another site on Alveda:

http://www.usais.org/articles/65613/1/Obama-Inverts-Civil-R ights/Page1.html

"King registered as a Republican in 1956."

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseactio n=pages.BlackGOP&x=4965511

"Promises are what politicians make. Speeches are what politicians give, but Barack Obama is no Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. For one thing, Dr. King was a registered Republican."

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4718



There is enough of both to go around
Some people hear only what they want to hear. Just like some people see only what they want to see. Other's think with their skin color before they think it out. Is it pride of their race that they do this. Where is it written that minorities don't express shame. Is it a white person who says this, or it it a minority. It makes a difference. If a white person sees so much that is wrong with minorities, why can't a minority see the same amount that is wrong with the white race. Minorities don't approve of wrongdoings or crimes against society. Minorities along the white race are morally obligated to condemn what is wrong. Pride doesn't enter into minorities turning their heads and looking the other way when something wrong has been committed.

mac
I was responding to willy and his continued nonsense that america is the origin of all evil in the world

I have posted numerous times that muslims countries remain the most backwards in the world. That they keep their own citizens mired in illiteracy, poverty and virtual slavery is well documented.

It is the muslims who maintain their secret police, their torture chambers and their prisons to stifle all dissent while the corrupt leaders live in luxury

But the left only sees america as evil.

That the un sits on it's hands and allows the mugabes of the world to practice genocide on their own citizens proves the un is a failure at helping find world peace.

Oh...may I add...
About the system...if a man/woman, black or white has to take a drug test to get a paycheck than you bet, the welfare or unemployment recipient should get one also. Wow, imaging all the money taxpayers would save there! Then give them a job sweeping the streets..
if they are lazy, let them starve,
if they are too prideful...that will give them shame enough to get a "real" job!
Or if they are secure and mature, they will have pride that they are productive.
If they are disabled, find an appropriate job. People need to feel significant, productive and useful, that is a healthy development of pride. Anyone or group that removes dignity from another needs to feel shame or they are proven to be a narcissist or/and a sociopath. By the way, so many in power are just that.

As for the one that said as Christians we should not judge?...Yes, correct, we cannot judge another for their salvation or righteousness but we are called to have discernment to recognize bad behavior with good judgment. As a Christian I am not righteous in own actions but that of the actions and righteousness of Jesus Christ.

Healthy shame .....
...is a prime ingredient necessary for an individual's self-government. It does take, however, self-respect and a high set of values to maintain a healthy sense of shame. The greater level of healthy shame, the less the need for a government to tell you how to live. In short, healthy shame begets peaceful living.


Allen
What Allen said: "Political ideologies are different from football teams. I am politically conservative, because I believe in limited government, separation of powers, individual liberty and responsibility, fiscal self-control, and free markets. I believe that where fundamental rights are not involved, societal change should be cautious and considered.

If you're proud of GITMO, you aren't conservative, and you are a poor excuse for an American. You're a coward who would sacrifice the ideals of liberty and human dignity our forefathers stood for out of fear, for security, or out of passion, for revenge. I am better than you and America is better than you.

And yes, I will stand up and oppose your vile and brutish position on torture in my political party, the Republican party, at every opportunity."

Allen you are not better than anyone. If you were to actually understand conservatism, you would know these values are rooted in an appreciation for innate truth, natural law, and orignial sin, with the last being most important. Of course the concept can also be understood in a nontheological sense. The core conservative insight has to do with a recognition of the imperfectability of the human condition. This does not only mean a recognition of the folly of liberal social engineering but an acceptance of a humble recognition that no one is any position to believe his or herself to be better than anyone else.



Wow, such anger and hatred out there.
All I read is an article stating that group pride should also be accountable and responsible in feeling group shame. Shame is not bad, it helps us not to be in denial...when there is denial there is repetitive behavior. Shame on anyone that would give way to slavery, the holocaust or internment camps again, even through ignorance. (Every race, were slaves at one point in history, even the Irish and Chinese here in the USA),

I am of mixed blood and my father is white or beige as my daughter use to say. Personally I am sick of the acceptance of reverse discrimination and selective covert permission for it. Let's hear all the outrage over a "Miss White America" but a Miss Black America??..ohhh kudos for that? Or White entertainment TV, because BET is ok? The black population should have shame in their part of reverse discrimination...2 wrongs don't make a right.

Does any man white or black man deserve any pride without recognizing some shame? Many prideful feeling grow out of rising above shame of our own or that of our group. Otherwise that sense of pride has no foundation except from a weak hollow ego screaming for attention or validity. Reverse discrimination is nothing more than revenge from a wrongful source of entitlement.

William Location: NJ Reply # 209
Subject: patriotic Location: IL Still an Idiot

Yes you are, read it and weep.

http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com/index.cfm?fuseacti on=home.main&tp_preview=true&x=7959345
radical republicans

Don Juan # 154 and 157
Are Franks and Dodo Dodd and their ahole buddys like Obambi Republicans to?
AHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA

LMFAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers or permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

Palin/Jindal in 2012!

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Peso George, Pardon Ramos and Compean before you leave office!!!

EVERYONE HAS A PHOTOGRAPHIC MEMORY....
LIBS JUST DON'T HAVE ANY FILM!



Look again
>The Community Reinvestment Acts didn't END in the 70s, "genius"...they BEGAN then but the legislation still "holds court"!! And, aren't the lengths of most mortgages 30 years??? I'm not going to debate when this started, when it ends, the fact is that it is at the heart and soul of the mortgage crisis<

While admitting that CRA and similar home ownership for the poor programs are contributory to the housing crisis, they are not the heart and soul. If that were the case, the foreclosures and toxic properties would be primarily urban, and primarily minority.

While a few cities can claim such identity, the vast percentage of foreclosures and toxic properties are middle and upper middle class, the product of too much house that could be afforded, dropping home prices, ARMs and other voodoo mortgage 'products' that aren't in any way affiliated with government programs.

TESTING
TESTING

why
Why should minorities feel or express any "group shame" when they're constantly told that nothing is their fault?

Jeez Willie...
...your ignorance is showing...

Yes, I'm a Native American, born here. Very simple concept. Your point?

And, please tell me WHERE I condone violence or discrimination against any group, in any of my replies/posts, AT ANY TIME?? G'wan...look if you must... I don't condone those at all but what I DO have a problem with is folks expecting reparations from generations inhabiting a land YEARS after the atrocities took place. 2 wrongs don't make a right, WILLIE.

And as far as holding Carter and older policies responsible, not only did you FAIL in keeping with the subject (I thought you were writing about racism and discrimination...Nice Seque - PFFFT!), you should do stand-up comedy. Because it's funny to think that you believe that because a piece of legislation or a law was enacted 30 years ago, that it doesn't apply.

Just get off the computer, stop "LMAO" (teenager), and go read a book or something.

Mellisa
The black media darlings, also known as professional victim preachers such as Sharpton and Jackson, ALWAYS speak of black people in the collective. With them, it's "black people______________________".

Fill in the blank with anything you want as along as it's a grievance.

Their perpetual whining and blaming feeds the media machine's need for ratings producing and conflict-generating "news".

There is no place on the planet where blacks have settled outside of Africa and have not driven violent crime rates through the roof in their host countries. Inside of Africa is nothing but barbarism and poverty where blacks govern.

Along with this army of black criminals in this country comes their defenders, and the latter is given prime seating and voice by the media. Any sane and sober organization would ignore them wholesale.

Predominantly black communities are, quite frankly, unliveable to decent people, and this is the result of the very best of black pride, thinking and planning. To this list you can add billions of dollars in subsidies, set-asides, and preferences, and these, for decades.

Detroit is and has been black-governed for decades now, and it has decayed into a third world shooting gallery. The town is filthy and run down, and well over half of the residents are government subsidized.

Detroit's downtown is lauded as fun and festive by the local media, but you can hardly walk a block without being accosted by some black who will demand something from you be it money, jewelry, or your life. You can buy a home in Detroit at 1950's prices.

I can appreciate what you wrote and applaud your independent thinking, but you're swimming against a hugely self-serving and profitable tide - for the black toxic-tribal potentates. An independent and grateful black person weakens their pathetic whining, so the former must be condemned and silenced quickly.

Good luck to you.


Kate wrote
Perhaps we will see the dissolution of institutionalized racism in Congress as evidenced by the "blacks only" Congressional Black Caucus ?????

what do you call the senate? the white caucus.

prager obsessed with race
he sees race in every action. the example he gave about the jewish woman. my question is, why is this relevant to the story. only someone who is obsessed with race would care about such detail.
another question Prager, are you ashamed of the jewish people who have run wall street to the ground?

Don...
Who's the twit, you ask? Hmmm...lemme check...STILL YOU!!

The Community Reinvestment Acts didn't END in the 70s, "genius"...they BEGAN then but the legislation still "holds court"!! And, aren't the lengths of most mortgages 30 years??? I'm not going to debate when this started, when it ends, the fact is that it is at the heart and soul of the mortgage crisis, and like the libTARD you are, g'wan and stick your head in the sand if you choose, I'm not going to get in our way.

If you would just stop with the rhetoric and hyperbole, and THINK for once, you could connect the dots. As more and more of your tax dollars goes in the pockets of people who don't lift a finger or give a damn BECAUSE of your lib heroes who insist we share the wealth, the problem extrapolates (hopefully you don't need to look up the words I'm using even thopugh you are severely challenged).

The unions extort more and more from a business, the gov't takes more and more tax from businesses and individuals in the name of liberal policies, which causes businesses to severely cut back or move their entire operation off-shore...consequently, they can't create jobs or raise income commensurate with the rising cost of goods and services, which causes an ever-shrinking middle-class. And on and on we go.

So what do you morons do?

You vote for more of the same...disguised as change.

Thanks for playing Don TWIT...but you are beginning to severly bore me...YAWN!

Cactushead...
What on God's earth are you ranting about? This is liberal cliche blame game. I coud go through history and cite any number of crimes of violence, genocide, slavery,...that was committed by various races and ethnic groups against each other as well as others.
There is still slavery for example in Muslim lands and parts of Africa, and it ain't white Europeans that are guilty. The overwheming number of accounts of genocide and barbaric attacks, aimed at innocent mew, women and children are committed by islamic fundamentalists. White Europeans have committed hteir share of atrocities, sure, but one would think from listenening to people like you that they hold the patent. That is far from true. Just follow world events..the Middle east, Malaysia, Phillipines, Thialand, Africa etc. Aren't many white Europeans involved.

Don
Political ideologies are different from football teams. I am politically conservative, because I believe in limited government, separation of powers, individual liberty and responsibility, fiscal self-control, and free markets. I believe that where fundamental rights are not involved, societal change should be cautious and considered.

If you're proud of GITMO, you aren't conservative, and you are a poor excuse for an American. You're a coward who would sacrifice the ideals of liberty and human dignity our forefathers stood for out of fear, for security, or out of passion, for revenge. I am better than you and America is better than you.

And yes, I will stand up and oppose your vile and brutish position on torture in my political party, the Republican party, at every opportunity.

WILLIAM
So you finally admit that the white man did a moral good in stopping the supposed "genocide" of native Americans, which has been disproved by various historians.

Just like White Christians (not Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Africans, or atheists) really destroyed the institution of slavery on most of the planet.

Or do you still think that the sins of unrelated predecessors make their descendents culpable because of racial similarities as you have indicated in this and other posts?

If so, aren't the current Democrats responsible for the actions of racist (mostly Southern) segregationist Democrats (including Sen. Byrd of WVA) which were confronted by the Republican Martin Luther King?

Perhaps the Dhimmicrat Party should exclusively pay reparations.


William
Siggghhhh...good Lord, another TWIT.

I AM a native, I was BORN here. D'OH!

Another thing - please explain to me how in God's name I can be responsible for things that occured CENTURIES before I was born????

Nice try WILLIE...

Don: regarding your response to Allen
One thing a lot of liberals don't know about Guantanamo is that a fair number of the detainees there are actually fully eligible for release. The reason that they're still there is that for many, either their countries of origin don't want them back - or else these detainees would be subject to abuse (including for many quite possible summary execution) were they to be returned to those countries.

If Obama decides to close Gitmo and sends the detainees currently eligible for release home, I hope some journalists (which would have to be from conservative media, since Pravda dba The MSM can be expected to cover it up) follow up on what happens to these detainees once they're repatriated - and report to the American people how many of them Obama's liberal "compassion" condemned to a quick death. And if Obama doesn't want to take that chance, his only alternative is to release these detainees within the United States. In which case, let any of them resume their life of terrorism on American soil, as I think we'd better expect from at least a FEW of them - and Obama won't be able to get elected DOGCATCHER in 2012.

Ich bein ein einzelnen
I am an individual, I will not be held responsible for the actions of others. Therefore it is not my place to feel shame for the actions of another. I can and I do feel shame for my own shameful actions. I also have the right and the responsibility to speak out against the shameful actions of others. All this nonsense about groups and shame is plain silly. I'm right handed. Should I feel shame because Adolf Hitler was right handed? I'm an Aquarius, should I fell shame because for the actions of Paris Hilton? Doesn't anybody else see how silly this is?

IT'S OBAMA'S WHITE HALF THAT'S BAD
Obama and Rezko, sittin in a tree.
Along come Blogo, and that make three.
Rezko fall down, now Blago fall, too.
Oh, Oh, Obama! Will next fall be you?

If he’s involved, just how willing are they going to be to shield him? All his closest friends are as bad as they can be. But he’s innocent as can be? I no think so.


Righteousness and Self-Critique
Hmm, it's my first visit to this site (my friend Steve pointed me to Prager's article).

It's hard to know where to begin to respond: although calling for an end to the name calling is probably a good place to start.

It's a little easier to see where to end: the parable of the splinter in your neighbor's eye and the beam in your own eye comes to mind ...

Best to all

We need to start using our head
I would have gladly voted for Alan Keys, an extremely intelligent black man. I am, however, beside myself with fear over the election of Mr. Obama. He is a man who would murder his own grandchildren. How can anyone, black or white, vote for this morally corrupt man? It is a puzzle. No, I am not black, however, I have had many dear friends who are black. I was not raised to be prejudiced and haven't changed my mind. I am, however, a Christian who is against corrupt government.

willy the spic
seems like you are clueless about what ruthless killers your asncestors were thoughout south and central america and the idlands in the caribbean.

You spanish ancestors killed huge numbers of native people with their slavery and forced labor. But we still see how enlightened those of spanish descent are concerning the countries they still rule.

Mexico and cuba highlight how dictotors and autocrats treat their own citiznes. Another of your heroes, chavez is attempting to destroy venezuela so he can be dictator for life.

Geek:
I am well aware of and greatly saddened by the statistics on crime in the African American community. I know it's not PC to say so, but many young black men today grow up in homes without strong male role models. I was just pointing out that these crime statistics are often used to vilify ALL black people. Not all black folks are "gangstas," "baby mommas," druggies, on welfare, etc., just as not all white people are racist.

BTW, I am a "5 percenter" -- one of the few black people that did not vote for Obama. Even though I wasn't that crazy about McCain, I thought he was better qualified to lead the country, and I am appalled by Obama's position on abortion. Nevertheless, I want our new commander in chief to succeed, for the good of the nation -- I consider myself "the loyal opposition."

Allen #110
Hey liberal. You say you're a republican. Maybe. Conservative. No way. I am conservative and absolutely proud of the Guantanamo Bay facility.

You and your liberal friends should also be grateful for Gitmo. According to international law and the Geneva Conventions, the majority of the people now residing at Gitmo could have/should have been executed. According to those laws, anyone fighting while wearing (or disguised in) civilian clothing can be considered a spy and summarily executed. Would you have liked that? Should Gitmo warm the cockles of your little liberal heart.

As for Abu Ghraib, why are you dredging that up. Get over it Bringing that up again proves you are a lib!!!

To Don TWIT Juan part 2...

Another thing, Sir-TWIT...who are the people wanting to give illegals (ILLEGAL being the operative word here) drivers licenses, free health care, free college educations? Answer - card-carring liberals! We're not allowed to deport them or speak badly about them, lest we be called racist. We have to print everything in 10 languages...god forbid the illegals can't f'in read English. We have to embrace THEIR holidays and THEIR cultures at the expense of our own. This is a LIBERAL mindset. Espoused by a TWIT like you...designed to keep everyone in various stages of TWIT-like behaviour.

I'm praying for you today...praying that someday, when you FINALLY grow up and take some responsibility for yourself, the TWIT in you will understand the extreme issues you obviously have, and you will see the light.

Good bye TWIT!

OK so you are an IDIOT...
Don Wrong AGAIN...

Listen up, you TWIT...

Jimmy Carter introduced the Community Reinvestment Act in the '70s as a way for minorities/poor/downtrodden to purchase a house even though many of them most likely couldn't afford it and most likely wouldn't pay the mortgages off. Bill Clinton extended this legislation sometime in the 90s. The Goverment strong-armed lenders to provide financing to folks with bad/no credit, even though it was fiscally irresponsible, and threatened those that would not comply. Just because you refuse to believe the truth doesn't make it any less true...you TWIT.

Secondly, you TWIT...unions had their use in the 20s and 30s when employees were taken advantage of. Now, they are nothing more that legalized extortionists who strong-arm companies into providing concession after concecession to their rank and file. There's a reason why the American worker is lazier and less productiove now than 30-40 years ago. These people aren't stupid...they've realized that once they can feed off the company trough for relative peanuts, where's the incentive to work hard? You, an uneducated low-life TWIT, don't get it. You give someone something for nothing, with no accountability and no responsibility, the incentive decreases. So much for your solid manufacturing base and productive middle-class. Once again, an indisputible PROVEN fact.

william nj
So I get back to work hoping that someday you have the opportunity to talk your trash to my face...................

SHAME, PRIDE, & HUMILITY...

Shame; where most pride movements begin. A group of people with some similar characteristic gather together and collectively state to the dominant culture or social powers "we will not be ashamed of who we are. You will not oppress us because of the color of our skin, because of our age, or because of who we love." The thing that strikes me about shame is that there is an act of will attached to them. This is not to say that one can, by simple proclamation, shake off the effects of shame. It isn't as simple as that. Part of the purpose of the pride movements, however, is to shake off the willfully placed shame on their beings, to willfully disown the shame that keeps them in bondage. The shame of being a white male, insofar as the white male has become the ubiquitous scapegoat of the late 20th century. Having felt this shame, I can identify with PRIDE.

Pride; I still have problems with this word. While I will admit to struggling with those vagaries known as self-respect and self-esteem, pride always seemed like a rather large thing to claim just for being. It's a fact of life, much like being white or being gay. To be proud of such things feels like following a path from haughtiness, to arrogance.

Humility; a word to approach with caution. Still, it is a word that needs mention when discussing pride. True humility is also a choice, even if it is a choice claimed from a weak position. That "accepting of your station in life" talk -- is nothing short of menacing. It takes principal and virtue and makes it a club to keep the powerful in power and the oppressed in check. In a world that promotes success at all costs, a world that says you can have it all, humility looks like choosing weakness. Subsequently, humility requires letting go of worry about what we look like to others. Humility is about claiming and acting upon the conviction that every human being is worthy of dignity and worth.


Korean apology for V Tech shooting
We received a formal apology from the S. Korean government official overseeing international adoption after the V Tech shooting by a Korean gunman because our youngest daughter was adopted from S. Korean in 2006.

"The horrible and terrible news that a Korean student studying at Virginia Tech University had killed 33 innocent persons awaited us as soon as the day broke this morning. What a great shock and surprise! We could never imagine such a frightened thing was done by a Korean student even yesterday. At this time the entire nation of this country was struck with a great sorrow and shame and regret. As a Korean, I would like to express my deepest regret, grief and condolence to the bereaved families and all American people for the sacrifice of the dearest souls. In addition, I feel humiliated for the fact that such an immoral act was committed by a Korean, and would like to make an sincere apology for it. It is my sincere wish that the victims take a peaceful repose in Heaven.

I am much worried that this might be disappointing and discouraging to Korean adoptive families and adoptees for our country, and would be much appreciative if you could tell them that we at Eastern continue try our best for the best interests of Korean unfortunate children’s happiness and welfare.

Offering our heartfelt sorrow and regret for the tragedy once again. I pray that God would sustain the bereaved families at this hard time.”

Sincerely yours,
Kim, Duk Whang, Ph. D.
Chairman of the Board

WilliamNJ
I have identified your group "Aholes,"

your butt buddy castro did not make me do sh%%T I left on my own, I am sure he would welcome your weazel self with open arms.

as well che would of love you, he always preyed on morons like you.

careful what you say to people who have suffered under the slavery of communism, it may come back to haunt you !

Look forward to meeting you someday.

Liberal Democrats
The Democrat Party is a party made up of factions. Each has an agenda. They band together like a herd of animals to get what they want,by force if necessary.

If they can't take what they want,they take it to the liberal courts,another liberal faction with an agenda.They keep trying until it works.

Liberals have no standards,therefore they can do anything and have no self doubt or guilt. The baser,the better for them. There is no right or wrong as far as their behavior.

christianhater
My fiends a;lready preach about how you and your ilk have undermined america.

But it seems whiners like you can dish it out but can't take the truth about your many failures. But it is you who constantly sing the praises of who enlightened the left is.

I maintain you remain utterly clueless about what your s