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Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Dennis Prager :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama's Naive Berlin Speech
by Dennis Prager
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To better understand Sen. Barack Obama, his speech before 200,000 Germans in Berlin is one good place to start. As we shall see, however, it does not leave one secure as to the senator's understanding of history, of America's role in the world, and what to do about evil, among other important issues.

Obama: "At the height of the Cold War, my father decided, like so many others in the forgotten corners of the world, that his yearning -- his dream -- required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West."

Promised by the West? Or promised by America? It wasn't "the West" that Obama's father went to; it was America. During the Cold War, it wasn't "the West" that led the fight to preserve Western freedom; it was America. Obama concedes this point in his next sentence: "And so he wrote letter after letter to universities all across America until somebody, somewhere answered his prayer for a better life."

Obama's speech was a paean to the West and especially to Germany in fighting for freedom during the Cold War. Throughout his speech he equated the German contribution to defeating Communism with that of America

Obama: "And you know that the only reason we stand here tonight is because men and women from both of our nations came together to work, and struggle, and sacrifice for that better life."

It is understandable and even expected that an American speaking in Germany will praise Germans. But even so, it is quite an exaggeration to state that the "only reason" he and they are standing in a free Berlin is because men and women from both countries sacrificed for that better life. Americans sacrificed far more than Germans. The sad truth is that, with some heroic exceptions, Germans on the right supported Hitler, and during the Cold War, Germans on the left fought the Unites States more than they fought the Soviet Union. When Ronald Reagan came to Berlin, tens of thousands of Germans -- many of them, one would surmise, of a similar mindset to those who came to hear Barack Obama -- protested his visit.

Obama: "The size of our forces was no match for the much larger Soviet Army. And yet retreat would have allowed Communism to march across Europe."

Isn't this exactly where we are regarding the retreat from Iraq that Obama and the Democrats have advocated? Wouldn't retreat from Iraq allow militant Islam to march across the Middle East and beyond?

How is one to explain this? I have long believed that many liberals recognize evils only after the evil has been vanquished. Today, Democrats like Obama in his speech, regularly revile Communism. But from the late 1960s until the end of the Cold War they rarely judged Communism. They judged anti-Communists. Liberal Democrats routinely call Communism evil today, but when it was actually a threat, they reviled those who called Communism evil. Again, recall Ronald Reagan and the virtually universal liberal condemnation of his calling the Soviet Union an "evil empire."

So, too, now, regarding today's greatest evil, to cite but one example, not one Democrat in any of their party's presidential primary debates used the term "Islamic terrorism."

Obama: "Where the last war had ended, another World War could have easily begun. All that stood in the way was Berlin."

In his attempt to exaggerate the role of Berlin before his large Berlin audience, Obama made a claim that simply makes no sense. "Berlin stood in the way" of another World War beginning? How? If anything, Berlin was the flash point of East-West tension and therefore could have triggered a war.

Obama: "People of the world -- look at Berlin! Look at Berlin, where Germans and Americans learned to work together and trust each other less than three years after facing each other on the field of battle."

Germans and Americans "learned to work together and trust each other" only thanks to the fact that America and its allies vanquished Germany, overthrew its Nazi leadership, imposed democracy and freedom on Germans, and kept plenty of soldiers in Germany. Why does Obama not apply this lesson to Iraq? If Americans and Iraqis learn to work together and trust each other, it will also be thanks to America and its allies vanquishing the Islamic terrorists, overthrowing the Nazi-like regime of Saddam Hussein, imposing democracy and freedom on Iraqis, and keeping soldiers in Iraq for as long as needed.

Obama: "Look at Berlin … where a victory over tyranny gave rise to NATO, the greatest alliance ever formed to defend our common security."

Obama did not want to offend his hosts by inserting an element of reality here: Many of America's NATO partners have been largely worthless in confronting evils from Communism to al-Qaida to the Taliban. A few weeks ago, leading German newsweekly Der Spiegel reported that German forces in Afghanistan are under strict orders not to shoot any Taliban forces unless shot at first. As a result, they refused to shoot a major Taliban murderer whom they had in their sights because his forces had not shot at the Germans and therefore allowed him to escape.

Obama: "People of the world -- look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one."

The wall came down because America stood strong, not because the world stood as one. What he said here is John Lennon-like fantasy, the opposite of reality, and as such, coming from the man who may well be the next president of the United States, a bit frightening.

Obama: "While the 20th century taught us that we share a common destiny, the 21st has revealed a world more intertwined than at any time in human history."

Of all the lessons taught by the 20th century, that we share a common destiny is not among the top 10. It is not even among the top 100. It is actually untrue and meaningless. Just to cite one obvious example, did those who lived under Communism and those who lived under democratic capitalism "share a common destiny"? What is he talking about?

If the 20th century did teach something, it taught that evil must always be fought.

The speech reveals a man who has good will and noble desires, but who may be dangerously naive regarding the lessons of history and what to do about evil.

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What IS Obama talking about?
My God, BO Hussein is incredibly and dangerously naive.

It boggles my mind how practically all of my family and friends support this charleton.

Whenever I feel discouraged at the mere thought of this guy being the next President, I simply say: "God is in control."

... and may God help us.

Why he is dangerous ..
Sen. Obama is a self-described Progressive. As such he has no core principles save the acquisition of power. In the absence of core principles how would he possibly counter the aggressive tendencies of nations such as Iran, Russia, China, North Korea? If everything is negotiable, and he is willing to change his tune to suit the audience at hand, there is no basis upon which to counter these folks who clearly are not our friends.

The problem is made worse by the irrefutable fact that Progressives are at heart authoritarians themselves. Therefore, a President Obama would essentially accept in large measure the premises of those other authoritarian regimes. So what would be the basis of argument? Sen. Obama in the role of President promises to be a weak and ineffectual advocate for the interests of the United States ini dealing with foreign governments and the United Nations.

We can't afford this guy.

My gosh. It seems like just yesterday
that conservatives were saying McCain was "no conservative" and calling him a "RINO", and republicans were saying his campaign was "dead in the water", "dead on arrival".


Dennis had something interesting to say on February 5th of this year, Super Tuesday:

"Among Republicans, the internal debate is quite different. Whereas most Democrats admire both their candidates and many love at least one of them, few Republicans love either John McCain or Mitt Romney. It is only a slight exaggeration to state that while Democrats wonder which of the two they love more, Republicans wonder which of the two they dislike, or, if you prefer, distrust, more."


It's nice to see most of you McCain non-supporters have so un-messily compromised your integrity and reputation and have now, like Pod People, fully drank the kool-aid. These threads used to be FULL of youthful conservative idealism ("I'd rather Hillary or Obama win than EVER vote for Juan McCain! The conservatives desperately need a kick in the butt to force conservatives back to their conservative principles!")


I'm glad to see you conservatives have healed and resolved the fractures and rifts. You're all in line now. Good soldiers. Like watching a newsclip on CNN of Dear Leader's North Korean foot-soldiers, marching in lockstep.


We democrats LOVE our candidate, yes (and I personally deeply respect Obama)....while many of you cannot stand McCain personally, but plan to vote AGAINST Obama. How awful it must be to have that empty feeling. That spiritually bankrupt feeling that voting against one candidate is all the satisfaction you're likely to receive this election season....

common destiny?
"Obama: "While the 20th century taught us that we share a common destiny, the 21st has revealed a world more intertwined than at any time in human history."

Of all the lessons taught by the 20th century, that we share a common destiny is not among the top 10. It is not even among the top 100. It is actually untrue and meaningless. Just to cite one obvious example, did those who lived under Communism and those who lived under democratic capitalism "share a common destiny"? What is he talking about?"

Well, speaking as an American born in the latter half of the Cold War
I can say that my life and my government's policies as well as its
politicians' careers and its citizens' lives were all tied up with their
relationship to the Soviet Union and Soviet communism.

Earlier than that two world wars brought together people of the
earth in common wars.

The earth is connected like it or not.
We are as Obama said citizens of the world like it or not.

Hi,
Barac Obama is genius candidate of president for Democratic party. He is a good speaker. His last speech was fantastic.

Ron
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http://community.widecircles.com

Free Americans from Corporate slavery!
"Wouldn't retreat from Iraq allow militant Islam to march across the Middle East and beyond?"

The answer to this inane rhetorical question is: NO! And what would this Islamic army consist of; 50,000 sandal-clad Kurds, or is that Sunni, or Shia, armed with tree branches and riding gallant camels into battle?

I am quite certain that two American aircraft carrier forces could (and have!!!!!) obliterate such a "fearsome" force. We could even bomb China and India back into the Stone Age while we are at it, create some more work "rebuilding" for those “private” contractors abroad and re-insource our manufacturing base.

Also, this "imposing democracy and freedom" meme is horrifically totalitarian. Yet, this Christofascism has been the very essence of our centuries old "manifest destiny" to conquer and minerally rape all who stood in the way of making money! Thankfully American society has kept that “fighting edge” that readily allows our kids to become killing machines, and we can do it with our Playstation III controllers even!! How kewl!

Har har. Accept Jesus and maybe the capitalist pigs will let you work in the gold/diamond mine, or oil field, they just stole from your people . . .

har har har

of course we are citizens of the world
whether you like it or not, or recognize it or not.

What does it mean to be a citizen of the world - it means that
events that happen elsewhere (in other states) have a direct effect on
your life in a different national state.

This ever happened recently?
Does it happen every day?
It does if you even have a small sense about how the economy
works. Or culture - especially if you live outside the U.S. I could
go on, but point made and imo proven.

What motivates liberals
"That spiritually bankrupt feeling that voting against one candidate is all the satisfaction you're likely to receive this election season...."

Classic liberal thinking - it's better to have a good "feeling" about your vote than to make a rational decision about what's best for the United States. It is completely rational to vote for someone you find distasteful (I don't, but others do) or for someone with whom you don't agree 100%, because that is the better choice than the other candidate. But, for many on the left, feelings are much more important than making rational decisions. That is why it is so important to vote against Obama and other leftists as often as possible -- not to "feel" good about voting against someone, but to DO something that makes sense.

An Appeaser
I do not trust Obama. He appeases others and trashes America, even when he should give us credit for our good deeds. I believe that in meetings with our enemies, he would sell us out. I feel that he would do whatever is expediant for Obama-that's dangerous and he has proven it.

This is only his 15 minutes.

Hey Will
You couldn't be more right. We will all hold our noses and cast our vote for John McCain. Yes, McCain is not our ideal candidate, but he is light years closer to our ideals and beliefs than Obama. We will take our barf bags into the polling booth and pull the lever for McCain to keep the most leftist, radical Presidential nominee in our country's history from becoming President and pushing America much faster toward its inevitable ruin.

But you are right. We are jealous that you have a cadidate that you are excited about. We wish we had the same........

Visit the Blog for more like this!
It was inevitible....I've been wanting to use this song for a long time. After Barack's recent junket (the self-proclaimed NON Campaign trip) where he instructs the world on history, wants to re-make history, indeed has been characterized as history-making...(gag!)

Magical Mystery Tour (Lennon/McCartney)

Barack! Barack’s magic history tour!
Barack! Barack’s magic history tour.
Barack! AND IT’S A REVELATION
Barack’s magic history tour
Barack! HE REPRESENTS ALL NATIONS
Barack’s magic history tour

The magical history tour is seeking to fake it today
Seeking the voters to sway.
Barack! Barack’s magic history tour
Barack! Barack’s magic history tour.
Barack! HE’S GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED,
Barack’s magic history tour.
Barack DISILLUSION GUARANTEED,
Barack’s magic history tour.

Barack’s magic history tour is hoping you voters to sway
Hoping to fake it today!

[spoken]
When a man takes a junket for a magical history tour,
you all know what to expect.
He guarantees us the gyp of a lifetime!
And that’s just what we get!
An indelible magical history tour!

Barack! Barack’s magic history tour
Barack! Barack’s magic history tour.
Barack! AND IT’S A REVELATION
Barack’s magic history tour
Barack! HE REPRESENTS ALL NATIONS
Barack’s magic history tour

The magical history tour is seeking to fake it today
Hoping the voters to sway!
Barack’s magic history tour is trying to fake you today
Trying to take you away, That’s what he say

notoriousbht
Well said. Very well said.

I agree to this post

He and Donna Brazile~Karl Rove has sold out the democratic party behind their backs.Well.. a few more.http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/27/the-donna-brazile-karl-rove-connection/#more-3797

This election was planned by Donna Brazile and what she did.Donna Brazile has no room to be in our Goverment.

Barack Obama--the Master of Illusion....
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/susannah/2008/jul/19/barack -obama-the-master-of-illusion/

Let us not forget how the media used their sexist words against Hillary and all women.This video shows that even the media who are sexist trys to speak for all men of how they feel of women.

This is your wife~ Your mother~~Your daughter~You grandmother and you sister that the media has used this presidential race to discredit all women ~ The media is well useing alll the great men who stands up for their wifes~ Mothers~daughters~grandmothers and your sister.

This is wrong!I love my wife~My mother~ My daughters~These men here are so hatefull~How can anyone of them who here say such a thing?What about their daughters!Wifes~Mothers~and siters.Is it hey go with it. I will not have anyone speak to my wife~Mother or daughter in this way!My grandmother was a hard working ,loving person.R.I.P Mema My grandfather was a loving man who stood by his wife and family.R.I.P Papa I love you!

With Mekki I believe that is her name sit their a listen to this.Really I guess her job means more to her then her family if she has a daughter,How could she allow this.It shows that her job is more inportant. Shame on you all at MSNBC!Shame.
Shame on the democratic party who allowed this as well as they are in with MSNBC to do this on all women and Hillary the best candidate we have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSwF9U

Don’t waste your vote if it’sd not Hillary.Vote McCain~ Bennie Mac~ Obama didn’t stand up aginst his sexist ways as well.He said “Hey man I love you” What was that?

NOOBAMA !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-IrhRSwF9U





And I repeat - - - - -

NO WAY, JFK DID NOT GIVE HIS SPEECH AT THE GATE.

Just as an example of how the press gorifies ObamBam. John F Kennedy never made a speech at the Brandenburg gate, never. He visited there, but he did not speak there.

But have you seen or heard anyone in the media ever correct that statement.

We have visited Berlin multiple times, and spent time visiting the then West Berlin City Hall. Rathaus Schöneberg was the seat of the West Berlin city government during the Cold War and is the location where John F. Kennedy made his famous Ich bin ein Berliner speech.



Come on Will
Will writes
We democrats LOVE our candidate, yes (and I personally deeply respect Obama)....while many of you cannot stand McCain personally, but plan to vote AGAINST Obama. How awful it must be to have that empty feeling. That spiritually bankrupt feeling that voting against one candidate is all the satisfaction you're likely to receive this election season....

Why bother to even write this? It's so abundantly simple that I pause in even writing this because I know you don't really hold any stong conviction here. Simply put, we don't prefer McCain, but this is the hand we've been dealt. To that end, the "lesser of two evils" is still the most practical course. Unlike most liberals, who view politcs as almost relgious in nature, we view it as a necessary evil. Sure we've got people we really respect and wish were the standard bearer, but we're not going to throw a tantrum and fold our tents and go home just because we didn't get the guy we preferred. The primary's over and most convervatives now realize that while McCain is far from perfect, at least he won't be the unmitigated disaster Obama would be.

What's more I find it a little disconcerting that you love policians at all. They're supposed to be public servants who keep the buses and trains running, and do their best to protect the population from enemies foreign/domestic. I fear the idea of people looking towards them as saviors who will make everything perfect.


Pot, Meet Kettle
It's quite risible for Dennis to call Barack Obama naive for praising Germany and Europe in general when the presidential candidate is speaking in Berlin.

If John McCain or any other American politician were speaking there, they would have said pretty much the same thing. One always praises one's host.

And Dennis, American troops did not bring the Berlin Wall down. It did not come down from capitalist investment in Microsoft. It came down because ordinary people chose to bring it down. The Soviet system never served them well in the first place, and that system was crumbling further from the inside.

are you serious?
ron writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:58 AM
Hi,
Barac Obama is genius candidate of president for Democratic party. He is a good speaker. His last speech was fantastic.

Ron

What did he say? He put a bunch of words together, but I defy you to tell me what he actually said that will have any impact on the problems in the world today...or the future for that matter.

"With stirring conviction of heart and mind I valiantly move towards the light of promise and prosperity that will yield on to us it's shining harvest in abundance."

Does the quote above sound familiar? What does it mean? NOTHING!!! It's just a bunch of nice words streamed together. What did Obama mean when he said this?

Hoooey
BO's crap-0-meter is running overtime.

At first when i started researching him ,he truly had me frightened.
But you know what? I'm just sitting back now & watching the show.
You never know what will happen next.
He's got more **** than my daddy's dairy farm.

Obama Mimics JFK...
It is as if Obama has studied JFK, the last great Democratic orator. Obama can put a few sentences together and sound impressive. He is eloquent to a degree but lacks substance. That is where he differs from Kennedy.
They also differ in that JFK was a war hero and a patriot whom in many of his speeches made clear his intentions to defend American democracy at any cost. he also asked for sacrifice on the part of citizens in order to assure Americas continued status, "Ask Not what your country can do for you..." Obama on the other hand has the opposite view.
He believes our country should not only spend billions on government run programs that have failed in the past and condemned many to a life of dependancy, he also wants to spend billions of taxpayers dollars to solve the worlds problems through the auspices of that useless and corrupt organization...the U.N.

Hey, "very sane" woman
That the USSR was "crumbling from the inside" was evidently and definitely NOT obvious to the leftists of the Cold War. In fact, the liberals insisted ad infinitum in nearly every public forum and college classroom that the Soviets were too strong, too indomitable, too smart for America to challenge them. Reagan was a raving lunatic to think they could be defeated. Indeed, to do so was to invite nuclear annihilation. Just as there were useful idiots (to the communists) then, you amply demonstrate that there are plenty now. But history has proven the Left was wrong at every turn, and nothing has changed with their latest champion, Barack Hussein Obama.

cultural divide
The problem is the cultural divide. The dems still see Pres Carter as one of the best presidents and still see the era of Pres Reagan as a time of darkness and him as evil, while the republicans look back and presently on Pres Carter as a walking talking disaster, and look back fondly on the golden age of Pres Reagan. Dems see the STUPID mistakes of Obama as a result of the strain of traveling, and see misstatements of McCain as evidence of senility. Republicans see Obama's mistakes as evidence of a lack of a grasp of history, and see McCain's alleged misstatements as created by the press because he does not simplify all issues to the lowest common denominator.
I see it as a problem when language and events are seen and understood in 1 country completely differently.
As far as I'm concerned when Obama talks you might as well replace his words with "Blah, blah, blah". It is nice that Prager actually listens to what Obama says and takes the time and expends the effort to explain why his words amount to "blah, blah, blah".
If Obama loses, what will Obama's wife say the day after the election, I wonder?


Good Will and Noble Intentions
Obama's only good will and noble intentions are only to satisfy his arrogant ego!

Dumb Americans
The only major accomplishment of our educational system over the past three decades is the dumbing down of our young. We have reached a point where we don't even take part of international Math competition as the results would be too embarassing.
Obama is a pretty good example of this and, unfortunately, he obviously has many supporters who have had a similarly terrible education.
Every people have the government they deserve. Decades of liberal government in California, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania have all but de facto bankrupted these states, yet their people don't seem to be any wiser in spite of this. America seems to be eager to follow these states with more taxes, more regulations and this is indeed very good for Brazil, Russia, India and China.

Wake Up America
wake up!!!
Like the small child said "the Emperor has no clothes". Barack Obama is a creation of the Democrat party - they just could not deal with the Clintons any more. Under ordinary circumstances even the Dems would not think him experienced enough or vetted enough.
Can we all say "buyers remorse".

under our noses
Obama has returned from his trip to Berlin sporting a distinctive toothbrush mustache.

Berlin suits him.

I kid, of course. Obama isn't like Hitler. A mere coincidence of location and style. But have you noticed what his favorite word is? "Require".

"Eh huh well, you know … uh I think that there are … there are so many ... issues ... in which I am not an expert ... but REQUIRE ... you to be an expert uh that mm-mm ..."

"Barack Obama will REQUIRE you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism ... that you come out of your isolation. ... Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

"In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be REQUIRED to do more - not less. ... So history reminds us that walls can be torn down. But the task is never easy. True partnership and true progress REQUIRES constant work and sustained sacrifice. They REQUIRE sharing the burdens of development and diplomacy; of progress and peace. They REQUIRE allies who will listen to each other, learn from each other and, most of all, trust each other."

If listening to Obama has taught us anything, it's that when he uses the passive voice or an impersonal pronoun, he is still the subject. Obama requires us to do more, to work constantly and sacrifice unremittingly, to share burdens and listen to, learn from and most of all to trust, him.

It's not after all as if he was recruited for the job. He pushed himself forward. Me first. We can't object to ego. But we'd like it to be backed up by something other than rhythmic intonations methodically punctuated by repeated formulaic phrases. We must -- we must -- we must -- that's why-- that's why -- that's why -- they require --they require -- they require ...

Yep. That mustache suits him. Even if it is only on the inside.

J
http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/

"Nazi-Like Regime?"
Calling Saddam Hussein's regime "Nazi-like" is actually a bit unfair. With a few exception, the Nazis, may they all rot in hell, wanted their children to stay alive. These people don't care if their children become suicide bombers.

Obama had no flag...
...because he is a citizen of the world. Citizens of the world don't need flags only a big stage to stand on and whine.
Perhaps his staff can design one like that almost-presendential seal he used once before ridicule set in about it. Also he did not want to offend folks in Germany afterall " the US flag is oppressive" to some (Obama).

Germany without us?
Some good points Dennis. Since he claims almost co-equal accolades to both countries, I wonder why Obama didn't make mention of the fact that there are in Germany today, American forces -but no German forces in America. How long then Obama, should we stay in Iraq to oppose and protect against radical Islam?

Sorry
but I don't believe Obama is a man of good will
and noble desires, nor do I believe he is all that naive.
He's sneaky and vindictive.
My sister in law, lived in Germany when her husband was in the A.F., and the town where they lived near the base wasn't all that friendly to Americans, only friendly to their money.
I AM so sick of these twits referring to world
citizenship, its the New World Order worded differently. I don't care what Germany or the rest of the world thinks of us, just that they
respect us. I'm sick of watching poltician after politician toadying to them, especially while they cut U.S. down. And I'm sick and tired of having to pay exhorbitant taxes in order to support the world. Europe has the money to defend itself, but its better we do it and spend our money, while they try to undercut
us financially. They expect our treasure and our blood to be spent defending them, and won't
lift a finger to help us in this terror war, just give token support except for Britain and
a few others. And I am totally and unequivocally
SICK AND TIRED of Obama, Obama Obama.

Berlin Airlift-Truman's was NOT Popular
Great job Dennis-I read an article over the weekend about Berlin airlift-Truman stuck

Good article Dennis, but...
unfortunately, you are not telling us anything we don't already know, and the ones who really need to hear this will make excuse after excuse for their man Obama.

The only reason Liberals "recognize" evil after it has been defeated is because they must in order to keep up the facade of wanting the best for the masses. Most Liberals mourned the fall of the Soviet Union. Liberals don't see Communism as evil at all. In fact, they see it as the only real hope for the world, but they keep this belief under wraps because if they admitted as much, the world would see them for what they really are.

Hitler is constantly used as a yardstick for measuring evil by both the Left and the Right. This happens because Hitler is the only standard for evil that everyone can agree on. Were it not for Hitler, the Left would not have a standard for evil; except perhaps George Bush or Bible believing Christians since they are also universally despised by the Left.

If Liberals said Hitler was a progressive and the world would have been better off had he succeeded, a majority of the world would reject Liberal doctrine as insane. So Liberals must acknowledge that Hitler was evil, even if they don’t really believe that he was.

Saddam a Nazi?
No way! That POS while his sorry arse was living(something that has been rightfully corrected) cited Jos Stalin, who made hitler look like an amateur as his personal hero.

All I can say is
after seeing/hearing what Obama said during his unofficial trip overseas as our unelected/unofficial president is WHAT are people thinking? Liberals love to laugh at Bushisms and point to his verbal gaffs but are completely unaware that this man has no grasp of history or the lessons learned from it. After WWII Germany was a defeated, bewildered nation with NO standing army and Stalin in control of most of the country. Germans didn't "stand with Americans" and fight back communist advances, they RELIED on Americans to furnish them not only defense but everyday sustainance. The American voting public better OPEN their collective eyes and see this guy for what he truly is, a political hack with NO REAL idea how to run a country. I find it hard to believe that so many Americans are naive enough to support this guy. Unbelievable!!

Left vs. Right
Liberal is another word for Communism.
right wing views are those such as fascism.
Extremes don't work, I seen the Islam radicals use God as a weapon, and we all rememeber Waco TX. extremes don't work. We need to find a middle ground pull together as Americans and "GET 'ER DONE"!!
This whole election is a nightmare, they ALL SUCK!!

Who's Naive?
I'm not sure Prager is the best author to be calling anyone naive.

Berlin Airlift-Truman's decision
Great job Dennis! All good points.

I found it interesting that Obama kept referring to the Berlin airlift. I read an article this weekend basically saying that Truman's decision to keep the airlift going (which saved W. Berlin) was an unpopular one. Despite long odds, and going against his advisor's, he stuck to his guns because it was he right thing to do. That, my friends, is leadership!

FF 60 yrs, and this reminded me of another president, making tough decisions that are unpopular but sticking to them-that president is G.W. Bush.

Reality Check Will
You said: "How awful it must be to have that empty feeling. That spiritually bankrupt feeling that voting against one candidate is all the satisfaction you're likely to receive this election season.... "

--I'll remind you that while Hillary was still in the race, those two were neck and neck. She had the big states, and a lot of your liberals somehow felt pretty insulted by Wright and also being coined as Typical White People.

I knew many Hillary supporters, many....and they refused to vote for Obama because even they knew he was a joke, inexperienced, media produced, a danger, inept, and has ties to lousy people like Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Dohrn, Farakhan, Jesse, Al and Hamas.

Once Hillary dropped out, those strong negative feelings towards Obama still remain, however, they are going to vote for him because he is not a republican.

See, Will? Not only republicans will hold their nose during election time to simply vote in their party. It seems plenty of Hillary supporters are doing the same. He is the lesser of your evils too. Don't be so smug because spiritual bankruptcy happens more on the left than it does on the right, and if you liberals really understood spirituality, you would know that I am correct.

Not all republicans will hold their noses, but I sure will. No way can I allow myself to let this hack of all trades enter office.

Obama is ignorant and dangerous -
Obama doesn't have a clue about history or America - his stupidity and arrogant self-interest are an embarrassment to Americans.
Obama's cancellation of his visit to our wounded military tell me everything I need to know about him - he's a deceptive, dissembling, selfish, egotistical, bumbling, arrogant, dangerous, socialist Soros sock puppet. Obama doesn't deserve to be seen with the American flag - he's a coward - Obama has no moral center - his desire is all for Obama.
Obama's connection to The New Party and ACORN alone should drive all Americans to reject him immediately.

Ditto to Egon in Fl
The future of America lies in the hands of today's children. The U.S. public school system has been totally and completely hijacked from the left and currently, we have the most expensive and useless educational system in the world. Teacher colleges and universities for the most part have been indoctrinating leftist teachers for some time now.

From the standpoint of educating our youth with good academic skills and reasoning ability, the schools are a total and complete failure.

From the standpoint of Brainwashing, and dumbing down the populace to a bunch of helpless individuals who look to the government as savior, provider and spokesman, the Education System has worked perfectly. That is the aim of Communist governments.

Did our Federally Mandated policies that destroyed the educational system happen by accident? Or, was it a plan of the left to get the desired results that have occurred?

I would hope, that the result was like most Government Programs and Agencies, was a plan laced with Good Intentions, that went awry.

But, whether by intent or by just plain old mistakes made by ignorant people with good intentions, the result is the same. We have a heavily funded public educational system that bascially does more harm than good in all areas that it touches.

The educational system as it exists now, is beyond repair as long as the U.S. Department of Education is in existence. An end to this worthless and wasteful bureaucracy is a must.

Every community in this country should not even wait for the government at the state or federal level to act. To undo the current Bureaucratic Nightmare that exists at the Federal and State levels of government would take decades to unravel the legalese that our Illustrious Legislators have concocted. NO,parents of children at the community level have got to say, we are taking our children back and we are taking our schools back, and then Do It.
(to be continued)

Ditto to Egon in Fl (cont.)
The future of America lies in the hands of today's children. We have a heavily funded public educational system that bascially does more harm than good in all areas that it touches.

The educational system as it exists now, is beyond repair as long as the U.S. Department of Education is in existence.

Every community in this country should not even wait for the government at the state or federal level to act. To undo the current Bureaucratic Nightmare that exists at the Federal and State levels of government would take decades to unravel the legalese that our Illustrious Legislators have concocted. NO,parents of children at the community level have got to say, we are taking our children back and we are taking our schools back, and then Do It.
The reason the public is so easily manipulated and controlled by the MSM is a direct result of their indoctrination into the Liberal Model of thinking being forced down their throats daily in public schools. The more socialist the state, such as California, Mass, NY, Pa, Ohio, and others, the worse the school system and the larger voting blocs for the likes of Obama, as these states have larger masses of people dependent on government programs for their livelihoods as opposed to more rural areas where more people depend on hard work to survive. Huge metro areas always get the Liberal Votes, as more of it's citizens look to the government as their savior and provider.

Our shool system is exactly like the one's dictated in the Communist Manifesto that understands that to make communism work, you have to have dumbed down people who have been thoroughly brainwashed in communist doctrines.
This is why Obama is so well received by ignorant people's who believe naive speeches. They have been reduced to this level of understanding by the school system, and all they really hear is, "The Government Knows Best, and by the way, The Government Is Going to Provide For You, By Taking From The Oppressors."

Whenever I hear Obama speak
I walk away, saying to myself: "...Maybe I should go buy a Toyota...this guy doesn't even know what he's selling..."

Woody from Iowa

To Woody @ 09:27
Perhaps you meant a Lada (Russian version of Fiat, popular 1979-1982 in Canada) instead of a Toyota?

scarlettsnow @ 09:08 wrote
"Obama is ignorant and dangerous - Obama doesn't have a clue about history or America; his stupidity and arrogant self-interest are an embarrassment to Americans."

Excellent points, though b0 is far from ignorant--he's an active traitor, just as Trudeau and Mulroney were to Canada!

Prager
"Promised by the West? Or promised by America? It wasn't "the West" that Obama's father went to; it was America. During the Cold War, it wasn't "the West" that led the fight to preserve Western freedom; it was America."

The British weren't involved in the cold war? NATO wasn't involved in Korea? I think, perhaps Prager is the ignoramus. The time has come for all red blooded Americans to set aside silly grudges and elect Obama .

The key for McCain
Barack Obama is not only naive, his naivete, socialist perspectives and total incompetence for the job he may well get is something that must be communicated to the American people.

Even though there are a few in the media, such as Mr. Prager, who will point it out, the mainstream media by and large will drown out any such message. This has got to come from John McCain and forcefully. He is the only one who can ensure that the people know who and what Obama is.

Even though the media will attempt to spin McCain's words as well, he has a bully pulpit from which to speak. Every time the Obama damage control team attempts to condemn Obama's critics, play the race card or go into faux outrage because someone dared to point out the truth, McCain's team needs swat it down hard, with the humiliation it deserves.

I know, wishful thinking but I think it needs to be said.

Taft writes:
"The time has come for all red blooded Americans to set aside silly grudges and elect Obama."
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OMG, Taft. Are you really THIS naive?

Other than being a skilled orator (when scripted), what in the world has this man accomplished that would make you want to hand him the keys to the Oval Office?

Ditto to DanNV in NV
You said it all, let's hope McCain's Folks read here or listen to somebody. Just debunking everything Obama says would be enough and fairly simple to do, because he says nothing of consequence. And playing the Race Card just don't cut it anymore, and even Obama's Handlers and Puppeteers and Propagandists know that by now. Not even Oprah or The View Nag Bunch can convince anybody except the already indoctrinated patrons that they already have, who, for the most part are Stay At Home Welfare Moms who have nothing better to do, since their little children are off in Government Paid For (You and me taxpayer footing the bill) Daycare Programs. Speak Out and Speak Up McCain. You have a lot of Support Out Here, You Just need to Expose the Empty Suit Obama for What and Who He is, A Narcisist Egomaniac fueled by Ignorance and Pompousness, and being promoted by a Know-Nothing MSM with an agenda.

NOBAMA
B.H.Obama is all hat & no cattle. He is an affirmative action, image driven, phoney candidate. He meets the basic Constitutional qualifications (natural born, over 35), but so do millions of other Americans; who thinks they should be prez? Name 1 thing of note he has done? 'Dreams from My Father'? Phoney. Fact is he d/n even know his father. How audacious. 'Audactiy of Hope'? Phoney. Themed from a speech by hate spewing Rev. Wright. Actually a better title 'Audacity of Hate.' Obama is a phoney.

Liberator
I think it's more important the things Obama hasn't done. He doesn't think a Christian nation should engage in torture, or should go to war on flimsy, and selected intelligence. He doesn't make jokes about how ugly some people's children are or about raping gorillas, and bombing other countries.

Greyhawk
Well said. Hopefully this message will be repeated more and more by those who are in a position to reach "we the people."

Taft writes:
"I think it's more important the things Obama hasn't done. He doesn't think a Christian nation should engage in torture, or should go to war on flimsy, and selected intelligence. He doesn't make jokes about how ugly some people's children are or about raping gorillas, and bombing other countries."
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On that basis, Pee Wee Herman is just as qualified to be president as the Obama.

Primus54
Obama REALLY showed those Cherished Liberal Values in his speech: Lying, Cheating and Cowardice. How about THE BERLIN BOUNCE The Libtards were crowing about. 3 FREAKING POINTS! With examples like this, I see why Liberals favor Euthanasia. They are wasting oxygen by living.

Obama chose his friends carefully

Obama in his own words states he chose his friends carefully. Marxist professors?

When did Obama stop choosing his friends carefully?

If Obama chose his friends carefully - how about his Mentor Wright?

"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)

Prager
Great article. The Obama supporters will simply look the other way though, as they always do.

Weekly he makes comments that will lose him votes. From his bitter comments, to his flip-flop in supporting his "mentor", to now these comments in Germany. There are still many alive during the cold war that know history enough to reject this speech.

He is slowly losing the middle voters. I just hope the conservative movement can gain momentum under McCain.

Dennis Prager's Clarity
This must be one of the finest columns I have read by Dennis Prager. He is a fine writer, but his clarity on what Barack Obama said and implied in the speech, and on fighting evil, is right on. I think that the more people listen to what Obama is saying about being world citizens, tolerance of all people no matter their behavior, and America not being exceptional, it will register with them that he is not the man to be president of the United States. Kudos, Dennis.

John Sabin
Little Elm, TX

Obama's Naive Berlin Speech
Obama is like the student who has a report due and rather than read the book or study the subject, he watches the movie version.

Amen to God help us!

9 of 21
9 of the last 21 Townhall columnist post have been about Obama... 2 for McCain.


Yep!... the media can't give up their infatuation with this amazing man... not even the right wing media.

LOL!

To Impeach Bush
You are obviously an old school Liberal Democrat. Using the old tired terms of "the military industrial complex". Get a life dude. Were it not for this so-called Military Industrial Complex that you Liberals Decry, your sorry butts would be living under a Dictatorial Regime where the likes of you Liberals would not even have an opportunity to protest, as you would have no guaranteed freedoms that the Military Industrial Complex have protected for you.

Get a new line of argument to justify Fraudulent and Wasteful Spending by the Welfare Industrial Complex, The Environmental Whacko Industrial Complex, the U.S. Department of Mis-Education onf Indoctrination Complex, that poses as Public Education, and all the other Social Engineering Industrial Complexes.

Masterful!
Like a lot of people, I too can get mesmerized by listening to Obama. He is so charismatic and says things that seem so good and desirous that one forgets to calibrate it to reality. On that Dennis Prager is a master, defining in his way with clarity the actual facts of history and the lessons that Obama never learned. That is what makes Obama so dangerous. It would be like electing a philosophy college professor that never had to be concerned with the practical reality of his rhetoric.

Right and Wrong
I found myself agreeing with certain things Dennis was saying and disagreeing with other parts.

What Barack Obama was doing was helping to unify a continent that has hated us over the last decade while sticking true to American principles. I also find fault with the whole radical islam will take over the middle east if we leave thing. Uh, it already has.

And as for German troops not attacking Pakistan the NYT pointed out Americans aren't doing it other. It's time Republicans focus on reality if they are to win and not on word parsing.

The Wall did nothing...
Obama chooses his words carefully. You can be sure that every word was pored over by advisors and speech crafters.

It is interesting, his choice of words..."the wall came down"... By this phrasing, it was the wall that acted, which, historically speaking, did not happen. The wall was torn down. Pressure--great pressure--was applied to the wall by Ronald Reagan and his arms build-up, with the SDI "Star Wars" program, and through the successful economic policies of the free market as opposed to the controlled market of the Soviet bloc.

The wall did nothing. Conservative principles tore down that wall.

Primus54
I think pee wee makes some pretty sick jokes too. Now, does any one really think Obama is a secret Muslim or a Marxist? No, he will be fine, we could do better, but he's our only rational option. The US is ready for a its climb out of the morass of depravity the neocons have taken us.

Hey, Mike
Your post confuses leftists and liberals. Until Stalin's crimes were exposed, leftists supported the Soviet Union. After words, their movement and politics were seriously brought into question.

As personal liberty is the cornerstone of liberalism, liberals were anti-Soviet. Many liberals - not all - were nonetheless suspicious of the need for confrontation with the Soviets, that it merely served as a rational for the existence of the military industrial complex.

Liberals' suspicions were proven correct. We were always told that the reason we had all those tanks and aircraft carriers was so we could fight the Soviets.

But when the wall came down, did we mothball the tanks and bring the soldiers home? No. So the obvious conclusion to make is that the reason for a huge military was not to fight the Soviets.

So why did we make all those tanks and aircraft carriers?

Obama in Germany
Prager's diatribe attacking Obama for his position on Iraq and comparing it with Germany after WWII shows his talk show mentality. The issues are far more complex. The two situations are not comparable.

Tony--Texas
One insults JFK when mentioned in the same sentence as Obama--there is clearly no comparison--

Good will and noble desires
You're too kind, I think good will and noble desires has nothing to do with his speech; it is just hollow words that caters to this specific audience, like so many of his speeches!

Will says
"We democrats LOVE our candidate, yes (and I personally deeply respect Obama)....while many of you cannot stand McCain personally, but plan to vote AGAINST Obama"
Go visit No deal.com and read all about the united Dems--united that is against Obama and very upset with the DNC and its fearless leader.Then move on to Kos, you will feel more at home. As an Independent I study the issues and no way could I cast my valuable vote for Obama--I love my nation too much to turn it over to such a poorly informed (or purposely blind) Obama. Pure hubris!

Prager is wrong on Obama
Prager writes, "The speech reveals a man who has good will and noble desires, but who may be dangerously naive regarding the lessons of history and what to do about evil."

I disagree. The speech is only one more example revealing a man who is an overgrown Chicago street hustler and ACORN cadre, who will saying anything to get elected. Just as with Hillary, I bet you'll find a well-worn copy of Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" in the Obama home library.

Obama delenda est.

The Lack of History Teaching
I will bet that if you asked the average college graduate of the last twenty years, he could not find the historical mistakes of Barry H. Obama, and probably think the Berliners (the people, not the jelly donuts)can vote in the US presidential election. Well, they may think a jelly donut can vote. The donut would make a more intelligent decision.

impeachbush
"giving peace a chance" is a John Lennon line, not something from the bible.

everyonesfacts - I must have lost my "citizen of the world" id card. Where do i go to get it replaced?

will - no true conservative EVER said that they would vote for Hillary or Obama before McCain. Most conservatives would have voted for any of the other republican candidates before McCain (except for the "Plan 9 from outer space" candidate Ron Paul).

I don't understand the infatuation with Obama. I do understand the lack of excitement with McCain. Can't wait for the next elections. Maybe we'll get some good candidates...

impeach's hissy fit:"Obama is NOT naiive
or stupid!"

"The trailer for Oliver Stone's movie called "W" came out yesterday and already the Bush apologists are banding together in their cries of outrage!"

OF COURSE, it's Oliver Stone. What would any intelligent person expect???

Can hardly wait to see how the liberal idiots react when the move "Hype. The Obama Effect" comes out....

http://hypemovie.com/

"We are the change we've been waiting for..."
HOW arrogant of Marxist Obama!!


But, as Ken Blackwell says of Obama, "When you peel back the layers, you begin to see a diturbing pattern."


impeach says, "This guy has a BRAIN and it is NOT called KARL ROVE!"

No, but he IS a KARL MARX!!!


impeach's BDS has obviously gone acute to crtical.



Why is it that
posters like Impeachbush and others can't defend Obama? When someone posts a critique about Obama, all the leftists can come up with is "Bush is evil".

That's because Obama's ineptness is indefensible. Obama's a radical left-winger, a socialist, pure and simple. His few supporters on this board can't admit that, can't admit to believing socialism trumps capitalism.

Even Prager wouldn't relate the part of Obama's Berlin speech that called for profits to be "distributed more equitably".

IT'S ALL OVER FOR OBAMA !!!
It's an absolute scandal that this charlaton,fraud ,imposter,poseur and snake oil salesman could be running for president!!
Mainstream America has given him the benifit of the doubt over his shady friends and out of a sense of fair play,have listened to his seductive patter!!..but they are losing confidence and are turning away!!..once credibility is lost, it will never be regained!!
Sunlight is the best DISINFECTANT !!Obama is slowly decomposing before our very eyes!!
If the election were today ,MCCAIN would win!!...by November it's a landslide!...Obama is unelectable!..it's all over ..finished,kaput finni....DONE!!!
HAVE FAITH IN THE GOOD COMMON SENSE OF YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS!!!!

Bucky Katt got it right
As I read the posts posted by the pinko weasel, monkey brained,leftist ,socialist demonacrats ,I'm amazed as they scream about how mean the villians of the right are I think fondly of Bucky Katt. It's really simple! Obama sat with his family,wrote a check to support the church of racial hate not noticing evil. Sat on the board of the Woods Foundation with 1960's bomber, Mr Aires, not noticing evil.I think we can count on him being himself, he does not recognize evil.

Germans on the LEFT x2!
I liked the article, but Dennis gets it wrong about one thing:

"The sad truth is that, with some heroic exceptions, Germans on the right supported Hitler, and during the Cold War, Germans on the left fought the Unites States more than they fought the Soviet Union."

---"Germans on the right supported Hitler"?!---

Nope, those were lefties too! This is a common error committed by anyone who doesn't understand the rise of Nazi Germany.

The Nazis were the National SOCIALIST Workers Party. They were for "the environment" -- which is why trees were planted like crazy and the autobahn was built to be as harmonious as possible with nature. The early supporters were the radical left professors in the universities, the artist community, and communists. Fascism is simply "communism" + "nationalism".


colin
The real fraud is all the lies and baloney whipped up against Obama. None of it sticks because its adds up to nothing. Our troops were very impressed with Obama, why can't the RW?

That naive Obama
This guy is spouting all these naive, anti-American positions and people just buy them.

He has insisted for a long time that Afghanistan needs more troops, where American casualties now exceed those in Iraq and the Taliban is retaking large portions of the country. After insisting more than a year that Afghanistan was both hunky and dory, McCain has now endorsed 2-3 additional combat brigades being sent to Afghanistan.

Obama has been saying for a long time that we need to engage Iran diplomatically and stand down with some of the saber-rattling rhetoric. And what do you know? Just a couple of months after labeling negotiations with Iran as "appeasement," Bush sends a negotiator in a couple of weeks ago, then Condi Rice says she's going to establish an American interests office in Tehran.

Obama has been insisting he can accomplish a phased withdrawal of American combat forces in 16 months and the Iraqi prime minister says, year, that's about right. What does that guy know about conditions on the ground? Then McCain endorses Mailki's timetable (not Obama's)and says he might be able to get us out even quicker.

What I can't figure out is if Obama is so naive, why does the GOP keep adopting his policies?

Ranger29
Thanks for your service, brother! Hooah!

ken
"What I can't figure out is if Obama is so naive, why does the GOP keep adopting his policies?"

Great point!

RE: impeachbush
impeachbush:
" ...The story of W.'s life is true--he was a f---up in his early life and since leopards don't change their spots, he is STILL a f---up!..."

So we now know that you get your facts from Oliver Stone and Access Hollywood. WOW... the nation is at stakes and that's how you get your news.

Going by your logic, Obama is still a racist, Marxist pot head?

Really... some logic you have there. The discussion is about Obama, and not BUSH. His term is coming up in case Access Hollywood forgets to mention.

theBaron @ 13:25 wrote
"Prager is wrong on 0blahma".

On the nail--b0's intentions are no more noble than those of Mulroney in 1990 or Trudeau in 1982 (the dates that these two erstwhile Canadian PM's proved beyond doubt their treason against Canada)!

The BO world tour
Gall, arrogance and stupidy makes for the worst possible mix. This is Obama in a nutshell.
It's appalling that there are enough idiots on the left to allow this Soros puppet to get this far.
I pray that wiser heads prevail this November.

Greyhawk
Greyhawk spoke about our educational system and mentioned he hoped some of these programs in our schools were put there for good intentions but somehow failed. I've posted before about this same issue so hang in there while I repeat myself. Years and years ago after WWII when I was a child, my mother attended a series of lectures about Communism that was designed to educate the general populace. After each lecture, she would tell my sisters and me what she learned. She said Communists planned to take over the world by putting people in key positions and when the time was right, they would take over. In my childish ignorance, I thought the military, the power companies, the police, etc. would all have Communists carefully placed and one day we would wake up and be a Communist nation! They used other means, too, such as having "front" organizations that did their dirty work hiding behind benevolent sounding nomenclature. However, over the years I've seen this unfolding before me. They do have people in key positions chipping away at our freedoms: our colleges and universities with their anti-American, anti-Christian slant; our Supreme Court (emminent domain,the Fairness Doctrine,etc.)Congress (some members are just ignorant, others are downright subversive); the news media; Hollywood and it's leftist influence (remember Joe McCarthy?) and our politically correct culture which is tantamount to losing our right of free speech. The ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church are as subversive as they come. We need to be on guard!

One more thing...
What better place to put a person with Communist leanings than in the office of the presidency? The man had a Communist mentor; his friends (the Ayers) who launched his political career are Communists and convicted felons; Jeremiah Wright, who may not be outright Communist, is certainly anti-American; BHO wouldn't pledge allegiance to the flag; he wouldn't wear a flag lapel pin; his half-brother is a Marxist...and on and on and on!

RE: impeachbush
impeachbush:
" ...The story of W.'s life is true--he was a f---up in his early life and since leopards don't change their spots, he is STILL a f---up!..."

So we now know that you get your facts from Oliver Stone and Access Hollywood. WOW... the nation is at stakes and that's how you get your news.

Going by your logic, Obama is still a racist, Marxist pot head?

Really... some logic you have there. The discussion is about Obama, and not BUSH. His term is coming up in case Access Hollywood forgets to mention.

re: matlock
"...his half-brother is a Marxist...and on and on and on! ..."
Which half brother? The one in China?
If you're talking about Mark, it seems that he's totally the opposite of Mr. Obama. And I don't believe that they're in communicado. The wrong brother is running for presidency. Though truth be told, the other one in China does not exactly have the qualification either. But at least that one is not going around spreading lies. He just simply out there to promote capitalism, enriching himself. The one in the USA is promoting socialism, trying to enrich himself by alligning with crazy loons.

Matlock
Let me guess. You get all your news from FOX and anonymous emails, right?

UnimpeachableBush
"Obama is NOT naiive or stupid!"

I could not agree with you more. Obama is naiive AND stupid.

And don't forget, Israel is Israels friend.

Ken
HELL-O-O-O! The "news" is everywhere. It's a matter of public record, Dodo.

Ken
Why are you so eager to see more troops in Afghanistan? Is it that you would like to put down the Taliban but not AQ? Afghanistan did not attack us any more than Iraq but you seem to back the Afghan invasion. Curious.

Big difference between having the President of the United States having unconditional sit downs with Iran and sending diplomats in to lay the ground work. Either you knew and understand this but simply chose to be dishonest or you don't understand this and speak from ignorance.

As far as bringing the troops out of Iraq, most knew there would come a time when conditions allowed that. Mr. Obama's position has always been simply to leave regardless of the conditions.

Prager's "Obama"
Obama has learned well from Clinton... "It depends on what the meaning of the word is is."
Thank you, Dennis Prager, for another great article that not only contains, but gives us, great thought.
Pablo

Ken again...
Are you inadvertently admitting the MSM isn't reporting all these things the public should be aware of about Obama and his Communist/anti-American associates???? Yes, you are! How ironic! Which just exactly confirms what I said earlier about Marxists being placed in the media, etc. They are COVERING for him, not because they are good-hearted. They would crucify anyone else with that background!

To Lefties - logic required only please
Dennis has a genius for cutting through the BS and describing political issues simply but accurately. Liberals must find it so frustrating that their cherished world views are so easily and emphatically flushed down the toilet – their insipid ripostes just add testimony to that fact. No wonder so many are reduced to hurling invective on the Kos etc. Thats all they've got & all they're good at. So tell us lefties, how does it feel to be constantly outclassed & outgunned all the time?

Speech Blares Obama's Incompetence
Shows his lack of experience and did it in front of the world. What a jerk. Embarrassed the whole country.

He couldn't be gum on the bottom of Reagan's shoe. Or Kennedy's for the matter.

Time for some Campaignin'
For anyone who hasn't seen the new JibJab video -- it is HILARIOUS. Really nails Oblahma:
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http://sendables.jibjab.com
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Oblahma,:

"Gosh, I'm so tired of divisive exchange, and I've got one or two things to say about change. Like the change we must change to the change we hold dear. I really like change, have I made my self clear?"

An instant CLASSIC!

Obama in Berlin
Obama states in his speech in Berlin " the world will long remember what we say here..."
Juxtapose that with Lincoln's Gettysburg Address wherein he humbly stated "the world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but cannot forget what they did here", referring to the brave men who fought and died.
Obama needs a lesson in 6th grade US History and a huge reduction in his sense of personal uniqueness. Mike Delavan

taft
The GOP hasn't adopted any of Nobama's ideas. Has he had any? He can't figure out how WWII was won how can he have a plan.

It's just like the liberal idea of cut and run from Iraq which would never have afforded Nobama the luxury of his little media honeymoon.

When we do finally pull most troops from Iraq except for the trainers and overseers, the liberal fascists will say, see we said to do that, you are using our idea. It's one thing to take a poke at something you think is going to happen eventually and having the leadership qualities to make the right decisions at the time while you are the leader. Bill Clinton didn't have it, Jimmy Carter didn't. Others act. They sat on their laurels while the world went to sh*t. Reagan ended the cold war and brought down the Berlin Wall, Bush is taking on radical islamic fascist terrorism for the sake of the world. What has a democrat done lately. Oh I forgot.. drove up world food prices with corn ethanol scam and refusal to drill and bolster tyrants . The people of third world countries thank you.

Obama is so condescending
He tries to make a fool out of the Berliners by talking down to them. Like they don't know their history. World history. He tries to fool the world with his Chicago politics. Liberal activist out of his league.

He's so not pround of his country
He can't even bring himself to say AMERICA.

I want to see Obama say the Pledge Of Allegience on national television(FOX NEWS)(while wearing a American Flag on his lapel saluting the flag of our great country. I bet he would not do it.

That is my challenge to Obama.

I want to see him "pledge" allegience to this flag. Until then he is a liability. His patriotism is in question.

Falling for the okey-doke
It is funny to listen to the posts on this thread. You throw around words like Communists, Marxist, racist, and arrogant like you know what you are talking about. Come up with something new. You attach your own fears and attribute them to the candidate you don't want. Whether you like a nominee or not you have to acknowledge their assets as well as their liabilities. Is Obama really arrogant or are you just feeling inadequate? The ability to engage the rest of the world in this democratic process and push for the common good without rancor is a beginning to actual solutions to the problems that exists today. There was no downside and certainly nothing unique in Obama's short tour in the world prior to the convention. His campaign, as well as McCain's have been run very well and should be acknowledged as such. These are two worthy opponents. Haven't we had enough of America always having to have a "boogie man" to rally against. Did not the 50's rid us of this fear of Communism and the extremes we went to? I see us going into a time warp and as I read the latest headlines and listen the MSM and talk radio, what I hear are blasts from the past. The immigration arguments are the EXACT same, read a paper from early last century and see how the Irish were talked about! This leftist/Communist/Marxist rhetoric is just a stupid now as is was 50 years ago. Substitute "colored" for gay and the marriage arguments are identical. Every label thrown at Obama has been thrown before and sometimes it has even worked.
I ask that everyone in this information age turn off the pundits and really listen to what these nominees are really saying, make up your own minds and see what you like and don't like and then see what the "analysts' are saying!

BTW, when was the last time you ever agreed with EVERYTHING, your candidate of choice or President said and did? Stop falling for the okey-doke and get to the solutions we all need!!

This is the very day the Lefties have
been preparing America for.

Yes, 30+ years ago, when the Lefties started dictating to the highschools and universities what was "relevant" and what was not, they were preparing the way for their Leftie messiah.

Yes, Obama, the Leftie messiah, who can say any idiot thing that pops into his pretty head, and the ignorant masses say "wow! ain't he priddy, and don't he speak nice!"

No matter how many misstatements of the facts waft from the purple lips of the golden boy, the Lefties don't care, because truth is relative, facts are irrelevant, and history is antiquated.

And conservatives have only to blame themselves for shrugging their shoulders and ignoring the foolish antics of the Leftie like they are the crazy branch of the family.

We should be confronting them with their BS, instead of magnanamously patting the on their heads, as if they are the crazy cousin that wears tinfoil hats and still lives in his mother's basement.

Ranger29
Ok, I'm a huge sucker.

I found out "Ranger29" is a fraud (a/k/a "Wobbie"). I had never seen his posts before so I was unaware that he was a fraud. Lesson learned!

Indeed, the only kind of Ranger "Wobbie" has ever been - or ever will be - is the rump kind.

I am sorry to EVERYONE for my earlier post thanking him for his service. He deserves no thanks, for he serves nothing but his own narcissistic delusional ego. And unbeknownst to me, "Ranger29"/"Wobbie" regularly posts inane personal attacks against other posters.




So many typos for me
I meant to spell proud. "he's so not proud...

Mick,
Yeh it's like he writing his own headlines or script for a hollywierd movie.

Obama we'll only remember what a boob you are.

Head in the sand...
Michael needs to get his head out of the sand. Nothing has changed. Does a leopard change its spots?

Micheal Needs To Read Liberal Fascism
by Jonah Goldberg

These terms are not thrown about. They were not understood by lefties calling GWB "fascist" or did you miss that whole era?

As the book says fascism is hard to nail down but is a mirror to leftist thought. Also fascism is thought to be polar opposite of communism. not true. They are very closly related in scope. And yes communists have an actual party here in America. The rest hide as democrats, progressives, liberals, all one and the same. There was a real scare in the 50's and a real threat now. Leftwing politics can be seen as marxist i.e. communist. Some don't even try to hide it anymore as they think the water is fine now. Hillary and Feinstein want to take over the energy industry(hugo Chaves-Socialist), Nancy Pelosi and others want to take over media(Russsia, China , Chavez again) Yep it's real. Don't kid yourself.

Complacency got us here in the first place. Now is the time to expose these people for what they are and what they believe. And yes by ranting about it. There is a slant to media to the left, also higher education. They got that way by us patriots trying to be nice.

Leftwing foolery
"There is a slant to media to the left, also higher education. They got that way by us patriots trying to be nice."

Spot on NEC. Time for being nice has long since passed with these idiots. They ought to be treated as the fools they are.

hmmm
i wonder if any other 13 years olds listen to
Dennis Prager and read he's columns as much as i do...

haha if there is any man, they're pretty cool =D

awesome column Mr. Prager keep it up!

Michael #104 rants: "You throw around
words like Communists, Marxist, racist, and arrogant like you know what you are talking about. Come up with something new."

Well, some of us actually DO KNOW what we're talking about when we use the terms "Communists" and "Marxists" which is EXACTLY how and why we see through Marxist Obama.

So, why would we come up with anything new? IT won't change the fact that Marxist Obama has been reading right straight out of the Marxist Handbook from the beginning.

Marxist Obama is the one who injects "race" every chance he gets. Might want to talk about that with him.

Arrogance? Well now... "We are the change we've been waiting for..." is not only arrogant, it's pretty presumptuous since there are a lot of us who have not been waiting for either Marxist Obama, nor his change... That, Michael, is arrogant...

"Is Obama really arrogant or are you just feeling inadequate?" You are joking, right? No, we're NOT feeling inadequate... Those who are inadequate are those who aren't informed and educated enough to know that Marxist Obama is, in fact, a Marxist.

".... democratic process and push for the common good without rancor is a beginning to actual solutions to the problems that exists today."

Well, there you go. Proved my point!!! "For the common good" and "redistribution of wealth" are the two most profound goals of Marxism & Communism, and neither have EVER produced solutions for anything!!! Not EVER!

The rest of your ridiculous post just demonstrates how truly uninformed and uneducated you truly are...



knowledge of history
Sadly, a large number of American citizens are just as ignorant of history as Obama and therefore are susceptable to his brain-washing.

I've seen it myself in my kid's high school classes. Maybe 2 kids out of 28 will actually learn something. The rest just spout the leftist crap their parents do.

And why do people keep saying that Obama is such a great speaker? With a script, he stumbles and stutters just as bad or worse than Bush or McCain. He can read, I'll give him that.

NEConservative: Exactly! As Goldberg

said as soon as a liberal calls you a fascist, you KNOW you've won the argument....

Which, of course, means they LOST IT...



Oh "Robert" it's not over yet!!!
If anyone should be behind bars, it's YOU and Pat...

And, yes we hear it's busy at WalMart these days...


I agree with Anne
Unfortunately after reading some of the comments by the obama-nations posting on this blog, I worry about the future of the country. As far as Hugh's comments, it seems as if he stopped commenting long before he should have. What about the rest of the speech? In any event Obama strikes me as as a cotton candy candidate i.e. he looks good, but he has no substance.

............
Obama the swine gets on all fours and grovels to the Mexicans telling them that Americans need to learn spanish so we can communicate with the illegal invasion that has ruined portions of the country. Then he takes his hallucinatory guilt trip overseas to Germany of all places and starts rambling to the denizens that brought us nazism and engaged in genocide, that we’re not perfect. Compared to the nation where he gave that embarrassing speech America is a moral tower of righteousness. Obama is the perfect liberal candidate, he is the quintessential America hating leftist eunuch the democrats have been hoping for. To the leftwing kooks that took over the democrat party Hillary must look like a Conservative.


I’m sick of this socialist rodent and his America hating wife and preacher. I pray America kicks them to the gutter where they belong.

TGS
Obama's wife doesn't hate America but John McCain said he doesn't even "love" America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd8IiK6KkW4

We had a prez we could have a beer with, nows the time to sober up and vote with our brains.


'Instant Karma' ?

Can Obama's election bring about Instant Change?

Immediate Hopefulness?

Instant Happiness?

Fantasy thinkers (liberals) remind me of small children.

They believe the milk carton never dries up, the cereal boxes grow in the magic cupboard, and Mommabama's Kiss will make all their boo-boos go away.


President of Germany
I think B. Hussein should be anointed the president of Germany. Of course, it is rather embarrassing that he cannot speak the native tongue. Since the German people are reported to be smitten by him, I think they deserve him. And the news media can go along to report his miraculous deeds! What a great thing for those who are sane in this country and who want no part of this Marxist moron.

Obama: Move to Berlin
They fell right in behind Hitler too so I wouldn't use them as great judges of political character.

Obama's speech proved he cares more about his stroking his ego than he does about responsibility. He and his America hating wife are some of the most irresponsible American's this nation has had ever had the misfortune of producing!


Obama himself. . .
. . . will be vanquished in November.

?
Taft writes:

"He doesn't make jokes about how ugly some people's children are or about raping gorillas, and bombing other countries."

First off, how do you know? Second, is this really the criteria you base your choice for TPOTUS? Are you really saying this is what makes him qualified? Hey I haven't made those comments either maybe I should run for Pres.

What's more
While I realize there are some straight biggots on both sides, I still think most conservatives are far less in actuality. Think of all the blacks that have been put in high government positions by so called racist conservatives. People like Clarence Thomas, Condi, Collin Powell, ect were all conservative appoinments. Of course, when we conservatives bring up these names we hear that these people somehow don't count because they are "Uncle Toms" or "act white". That has got to be the most infuriating thing because it proves it has nothing to do with race. Conservatives support people that share their philosophies while liberals don't consider somebody a true minority unless they subscribe to leftest thinking.

contribution
impeachbush writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 1:14 PM
In case you haven't seen it ...
"W." trailer:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/the_big_picture/2008/07/w-t railer-walk.html

Why are you here?!? Why would anyone at this site give a damn what Oliver Stone has imagined in his head? Does the fact that this clip exist prove some point you believe? If I made a porno about the life of Bill Clinton would that provide any insight? This post only goes to proving the idea that many on the left don't have a firm grip on reality. But hey what do I know...if you see something in a movie it must be true! I've heard actors tell stories about people chewing them out over a character they played in a movie. Does anybody doubt those people were libs?


kudos mariani
impeachbush writes:

" ...The story of W.'s life is true--he was a f---up in his early life and since leopards don't change their spots, he is STILL a f---up!..."

Mariani destroys impeachbush argument with:

So we now know that you get your facts from Oliver Stone and Access Hollywood. WOW... the nation is at stakes and that's how you get your news.

Going by your logic, Obama is still a racist, Marxist pot head?

Rational sentiment concludes:

Nice one. That pretty much settles that. I can't imagine anyone trying to come back after so thoroughly being slapped down. BTW "ImpeachBush"...really don't even try. You lost that one. Just accept it.


Scott & Mariani
What makes Obama a racist?

Also, the term Marxism, do you even know what that term means? Your pretty eager to throw it around. I hope you do know what the term Marxism means, but deep down I think your just posting your favorite talk radio hosts ideas.

I don't think you have the ability to think for yourself.

Uninformed have chosen the "Chosen One"!
Still the naive (uninformed obviously) are so captivated by the motivational speech masters
"gift of gab" they think its ok to elect a star personality and slick talking Leader for the most important job in the free world! What kind of standards are they willing to accept? Why a vote for the least experienced Rookie, who has a scary history with enemies of America and been caught in half truths & misrepresentations, with only an ordinary past record in politics etc,? I guess because all the gullible immature "youth", 92% of prejudiced, prideful Blacks and now the adoring Europeans all swooning over the Ameri-can Idle, excuse me speaker not singer; so he must be the chosen one! God deliver us from such ignorance. Disillusioned ex Democrat

Obama in Germany
My kids saw the old Warner Bros. cartoons before they were sanitized off the air by the PC Police, that showed Hitler speaking in front of cheering crowds. (Although of course the cartoons ridiculed him, the point could still be made.)

They also saw Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and recall Dr. Jones senior saying, "My boy, we're pilgrims in an unholy land" as they watched the Nazi rally around a pile of burning books.

They will have remembered these things when they watched Obama speaking to the Germans.

As for me, I saw two blocks worth of screaming ninnies waiting to see the Jonas Brothers. That was the same crowd listening to Obama.

insults will get you nowhere...
Hondo writes: Wednesday, July, 30, 2008 12:29 PM
Scott & Mariani
"What makes Obama a racist?

Also, the term Marxism, do you even know what that term means? Your pretty eager to throw it around. I hope you do know what the term Marxism means, but deep down I think your just posting your favorite talk radio hosts ideas.

I don't think you have the ability to think for yourself."

First off, I don't recall calling Obama a racist, (however, purposely choosing an afro-centric all black church could lead one to come to that conclusion), but I'm not surprised you put words in my mouth. Liberals love to just make stuff up and then argue based on a fabricated assumption. Next, I never refered to Obama as a Marxist either, but once again refer to my previous sentence. However, I will state hear, for the first time, that I do believe Obama has Marxist tendencies. He seems to favor strong, central state controls sprinkled in with a dash of collectivism and populace class envy. Perhaps his most glaring example of this was during a debate where he all but conceded that raising the captial gains tax would have no positive effect on the economy, but defended it, none the less, on the basis of "fairness". In essence, he was saying he didn't care if it achieved the goal he purported for wishing to institute it because it's just not fair that some people make a lot of money, and they should have to give some of it back. Despite your insults, I'd like to think a masters degree in poli sci enables me to see a little Marxist tilt in Obama's prefered style of governing. That old "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" kind of thing.

While I do share the opinions and beliefs of some of my favorite talk radio people (golly gee whiz...that's why I listen to them), I submit my reasoned response as evidence for being able to think for myself.


in his own words...
But hey...don't believe me about Obama...watch for youself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4iy2OfScQE

PS. After watching the clip please explain what isn't Marxist about it.

in his own words...
But hey...don't believe me about Obama...watch for youself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4iy2OfScQE

PS. After watching the clip please explain what isn't Marxist about it.

Obama Is A Thoughtless Idealist.
You say:

"What he said here is John Lennon-like fantasy, the opposite of reality, and as such, coming from the man who may well be the next president of the United States, a bit frightening."

You are absolutely correct. He so prefers his idealistic dream-fantasies that he has disdain for reality, especially history.

a bit frightening???
Obama and the liberal dems are not just a bit frightening. In my old age I fear for all my progeny, friends, America, and all freedom and decency on this planet.

Scott
Nice rebuttal!
I don't understand why conservatives are accused of mimicing talk show hosts just because they use the same descriptive words about Obama. I actually looked up the definition of Marxism when I heard some of Obama's wealth redistribution lines just to make doubly sure that I was correct in my assessment of Mr. Obama.

methusela
The fact that these mind-numb Libs have no rebuttal explains why they accuse us. The truth is Liberals today preach very Marxist postions. However, the word "Marxist" carries with it a negative conotation. Therefore, they must lash out at us, accusing us of not knowing what we're talking about, in order to obscure their true ideology. Redistribution of wealth and strong central control is the essence of Marxistism. Libs...I'm sorry if the shoe you've put on fits, but if it bothers you so much stop wearing it!!!

Obama's desire for peace
Obama wanted to withdrawn American troops from Iraq, presumably to save lives. But where did he want to send the troops leaving Iraq? To AFgahistan, an even more dangerous country. Democrats have become the peaceniks but in the 20th century, all 4 major wars started with a democrat in the white house. We had no more business in 3 of those wars than we do in Iraq.
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