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Tuesday, December 04, 2007
Dennis Prager :: Townhall.com Columnist
Baby Boomers Owe America's Young People an Apology
by Dennis Prager
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We live in the age of group apologies. I would like to add one. The baby boomer generation needs to apologize to America, especially its young generation, for many sins. Here is a partial list:

First and perhaps foremost, we apologize for robbing many of you of a childhood.

We baby boomers were allowed perhaps the most innocent childhoods known to history. We grew up without material want, in one of the most decent places in world history, with media that preserved our sexual and other innocence, in schools that generally taught us well, and we were allowed childhood play from boy-girl play to rough and tumble boy-boy play to monkey bars and ringalievio. Our generation has deprived you of all these things. And while we were aware of the threat of a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, few of us believed that we were threatened with death anywhere near the amount we have scared you about death from secondhand smoke, global warming and heterosexual AIDS, to mention just a few of the exaggerated death scares we have inflicted on you.

Our generation came up with two truly foolish slogans that also ended up robbing you of childhood.

One was, "Never trust anyone over 30." Our infantile attitude toward adult authority has inflicted great harm on you. Because of it, many baby boomers decided not to become adults, and this has had disastrous consequences in your lives. It deprived you of one of the greatest needs in your life -- adults. That in turn deprived you of something as important as love -- parental and other adult authority. With little parental authority, you were left with little personal security, few guardrails and a diminished sense of order in life. And we transferred this denial of authority to virtually all authority figures, from teachers to police.

The other slogan whose awful consequences we baby boomers bequeathed to you was, "Make love, not war." Our parents had liberated the world from immeasurably cruel and murderous regimes in Germany and Japan -- solely thanks to waging war. But instead of concluding that war could do great moral good, we sang ourselves silly with such inane lyrics as "Give peace a chance," as if that deals in any way with the world's most monstrous evils. So we taught you to make love and not war. And we succeeded.

We made you anti-war and almost completely sexualized your lives. We told you that having sex was terrific or at least to be expected, even in early teens, and that your only concerns should be avoiding sexually transmitted diseases and getting pregnant. And if you did get pregnant, we made sure that you could extinguish the life you were carrying as effortlessly and guiltlessly as possible.

We started teaching you about sexuality and homosexuality in early grade school and we taught you how to put condoms on bananas. It is true that we did not grow up learning about these things at such young ages -- certainly our schools never taught us about these things -- but we chalked that up to the preposterous, if not reactionary, values of the 1950s and early 1960s. We had contempt for our parents believing that "Father Knows Best" and "Leave It to Beaver" and "Superman" -- with the show's motto of "truth, justice, and the American way" -- were good things for young people to be exposed to. So we replaced these shows with MTV's mind-numbing parade of three-second images and sex-drenched shows for teenagers. Sorry.

We also made you weak. We did everything possible to ensure that you suffered no pain. Sometimes we changed game scores if a team was winning by too large a margin; we abolished dodgeball lest anyone suffer early removal from the game; and we gave trophies to all of you who played on baseball teams, no matter how awfully you or your team played so that none of you missed getting a trophy while members of another team did. Much of this was thanks to the self-esteem-without-having-to-earn-it movement, which in our generation's almost infinite lack of wisdom we inflicted upon you. Sorry for that, too.

We also apologize for coming close to ruining so many of your schools and universities. Despite the unprecedented sums of money we had America spend on education, most of you got an education quite inferior to the one we got at a fraction of the cost. But we thought of our teachers as fools (they were, after all, over 30) who just concentrated on reading, writing and arithmetic (and history, music and art). We were sure we knew better and we therefore concentrated on sexual issues, and teaching you about peace, global warming and the horrors of smoking. The fact that few high school graduates can identify Mozart, let alone were ever exposed to his music, is far less significant to many baby boomers than your knowledge of the alleged perils of secondhand smoke. Most of you cannot identify Stalin either, and we are sorry for that, too. But, hey, we did make sure you saw Al Gore's film.

And a real apology to those of you hooked on drugs. While your choice to do drugs is your responsibility, it was our generation that romanticized them and made them cool. "Mind expanding" we called them. But it turns out that they don't expand minds, they destroy them. Sorry.

And, young women, we apologize especially to you. Many of us baby boomers bought into the feminist idea that getting married and making a family with a man were far less fulfilling than career success and that marriage itself is "sexist" and "patriarchal." So, to those of you women who have career success and didn't get married, we sincerely apologize. Turns out that most careers aren't as fulfilling as we promised.

So we really blew it, and what's really amazing is that few of us have changed our minds. Most people get wiser as they get older. But not those of us baby boomers who still believe these things. Of course, many of us never bought into these awful ideas that have so hurt you and our country, and some of us have grown up. But many of us still talk, think, dress and curse the same as we did in the '60s and '70s. And we're still fighting what we consider the real Axis of Evil: American racism, sexism and imperialism.

But for those of us who know the damage baby boomers as a whole did to you, a heartfelt apology.

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Thank you
Thanks Mr Prager.

I was born in 74. What I am most upset about is the total destruction of so many people's ablity to make judgements and dicern good from evil. And the loss of rational thought.

So many of the Left are completely hysterical irrational haters of their fellow citizens and country , I fear the future.

Thanks Mr. Prager....
...for such a great column. I would like to take the time to thank my parents for:

Letting me drink water from the hose.
Allowing me to listen to classical music for the first 12 years of my life.
Letting me play in the dirt.
Letting me play cops and robbers, while bending my Barbie in half to make it a "gun".
Expecting me to do better each day, and be disappointed with me when I didn't live up to their expectations.

They were baby boomers, but they didn't fall into the trap many others did. And "Leave it to Beaver" was a great example for them, and for me.

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Baby Boomers
Dennis Prager recognizes the damage our generation did. I am now 60 years old, and while I was never a hippie, or whatever, I did have my spin with leftist politics. After being a Young Republican in the 1964 elections (in Texas, where I worked for the election of an unknown for Senate named George H. W. Bush), I went to college and fell for the leftist line. I followed through with it until 1980, when I got smart again and voted for the greatest President of the 20th Century, Ronald Reagan. My poor son wasn't allowed toy guns, and didn't have his first haircut until he was almost three. But after my re-conversion, he became a football and baseball player, and I always stressed winning.

But I look around me today, and know that those who did not straighten out, have destroyed their children, and my children will have to live with that human garbage for the rest of their lives. The Baby Boomers are the most ungrateful, foolish generaton in history.

Everyday I see...
the truth in what Dennis is saying here. I've been a teacher for 15 years (old enough to see some generation changes occur; young enough to remember my own childhood vividly). As much as it pains me to say it, it is my generation and the one just before that seems so bent on ruining the innocence in everything, all in the name of selfishness (or the desire to befriend their progeny rather than parent them). Beware, baby boomers and gen Xers... the youth of today are sharper than we think. It is my sincere hope that they will raise their children to be courteous, inquisitive, and disciplined, in spite of what they have witnessed or experienced personally (or maybe because of it).

Dennis...
...I'm a boomer and I've been saying the same thing for about 10 years. One of my 24 year old son's friends is a soldier who has done two tours in Iraq. He calmly said to me one day "Don't worry Mr. Pierce we'll win our war - just like Gramps did his." The unspoken message was very very clear.

Remember these kids serving in Iraq and Afghanistan today are going to be running much of this country within 10 years and most of us boomers (and nearly all gen-xers) will be alive to see it. I don't think they will be very nice to us.

The Elephant In The Room
Nice column. But the author completely ignores the biggest sin the Baby Boomers will inevitably commit.

The Social Security Scam will all but enslave the next generations. It is an abominable system that will cause untold loss of wealth and earnings from our children. It cannot be justified. It is theft from one generation of the next.

I am 54 and trying to convince my generation that we could be the "Greatest Generation" by eschewing the SS checks and sparing the kids this horrible burden. We fought all those years, spent all that treasure and blood to fight Communism.

And what are we doing? Installing the most egregious, deceitful, harmful socialist-communist scheme ever devised.

It sickens me. And Mr. Prager never even hinted at it. Mr. Prager, are you looking forward to "getting your money back" by stealing from the next generation because they elderly stole from us? How about you write a column on the justice of that?

Thanks.

Apology accepted
Dear Mr. Prager,

Thank you for your apology; I accept it. While one may consider it boorish of me to ask you to apologize further, I feel it necessary for intergenerational healing to ask the following:

1. Please apologize for leaving future generations US$9.154 trillion of US debt to pay off. Please apologize for making us pay hundreds of billions of dollars each year for the interest on the national debt. Please apologize for not explaining to us that while reasonable people can debate where best to spend public funds (defense, social spending, etc), it is simply irresponsible for spending more than you have under non-emergency circumstances.

2. Please apologize for squandering the excess taxes collected for Social Security and Medicare to finance US deficit spending, when you knew full well you would need that excess to fund these programs when you retire. Please apologize for pretending these excess funds are simply stored away in a "trust fund" to be easily reclaimed later.

3. Please apologize for, in some cases, spitting upon US soldiers returning from overseas. Please apologize for not recognizing that US soldiers choose to serve their country, but it is up to elected officials how and where they serve.

4. Please apologize for the miserable experience that was the late 1970's. Please apologize for not recognizing and in many ways downplaying the fundamental shift that happened in the 1980's.

I apologize for none of it
I have been a conservative since Roosevelt (FDR, not Teddy!) I have been FIGHTING this cr@p for many more years than I care to remember.

I did none of those things for which an apology is needed. I raised my children to be upstanding, Christian citizens of the United States of America. To brook no **** from any enemy - foreign OR domestic!

I have seen a recent shift - AWAY from those looney tune times and applaud it.

I have paid into SS for over 1/2 a century and don't expect to ever see a dime for my money.

J
The late 70s? Do you mean the wonderful Carter years, with stagflation and geopolitical wimpishness, most notably in Iran? Possibly you're referring to a national "malaise" that heartened the USSR enough that they invaded Afghanistan?

The earliest Boomers turned 30 in 1976, the year Carter was elected. I believe his administration and Congress were still pretty much entirely in the hands of the WWII generation.

Those of us who stubbornly maintained "counterculture" values after what should've been a clear wakeup call (raising children) are the ones who owe their children an apology.

I think Mr Prager's offering had a tongue-in-cheek tinge to it, when you consider the opening remark, "we live in the age of group apologies."

People who take that remark seriously, like the first Boomer President W J Clinton, are flayed in fine fashion in this essay-- but even they are not in a position to apologize for the Carter years.

The MTV 80s and 90s, age of unconditional "self-esteem" and unearned entitlements based on membership in "special victim groups"-- yes, the people who brought you this horror movie were indeed boomers.

The most ironic thing about "apology" here is that the ones really responsible are still True Believers, and will never understand what they have to apologize about.


One more slogan
We also apologize for living by our favorite slogan, "If it feels good, do it."

So much of the pain and insecurity of your childhoods have their roots in this slogan. If you were raised in a single parent household, it's likely that mom or dad said, screw this reponsibility thing, I've got to find myself.

Learning to make a marriage work; changing diapers, disciplining kids, none of these things feel as good as doing whatever you please. Most of all we, the generation which criticized American materialism, have sold out. Not only are we in debt up to our scalps, our country is mortgaged to the hilt, too. This means a more austere future for you and your children.

But perhaps worst of all, we have not taught you to truly love this great and unique nation. To the contrary we have taught you to focus and only on America's faults and errors.

We've taught you it is more noble to be a 'citizen of the world' than to be a proud American. This is a tragedy, because if you stop believing in the essential goodness of America, your freedoms and your lives will be diminished and a great beacon of light for the world will become dim.

J
Squandering the Social Security surplus by spending the money? How about some facts for you. Legally, the Social Security "trust fund" is only allowed to purchase U.S. government treasury bonds. If the trust fund were allowed to diversify and purchase stocks and other assets, then they would see a better return. But I'm thinking you didn't even know that and so you complain that we spent the Social Security money. If the trust fund had left it in cash, it would be worth a lot less now than those U.S. treasury bonds. So enough with the "we squandered the surplus by spending the money". The fact is, we spent money and issued treasury bonds to pay for it. Among a variety of groups, one entity that purchased those bonds was the Social Security fund. But even it they hadn't, we would have borrowed the money from somewhere else -- financial institutions and foreign countries have always been more than willing to lend Uncle Sam money. Social Security had nothing to do with it.

beautiful article
Aw, don't be too hard on yourself. I'm a Vivaldi person anyway.

Actually, your article brought tears to my eyes. My (living) parents are still living in Hippy Daze. Mom accepted Jesus just before she died--amazing lady! It's her b-day today, too.

On the bright side, we are more worried about you than you are about us...xox

Pass the Buck back
Do we deserve an apology?

The only apology we deserve is from ourselves... for following the boomers like sheep.

no one can force you to do anything, unfortunately we're easily influenced into doing things like banning peanut butter sandwiches from schools to protect the one kid who is allergic.

So Mr. Prager it is not your generation that owes us an apology, we owe it to ourselves!

I apologize for Dennis Prager
And I would like to apologize for the Dennis Pragers of the world who seem to feel they are God’s critic and have the divine right to separate the wheat from the chaff – well Dennis, you get the chaff.

America doesn’t need any more moralizing demonizers – America needs credible and authentic moderates who can help bring about a healing that your kind is intent on causing. To bring the left and right to the table with mutual trust and respect. To be a countercurrent to generational wars, race wars, religious wars, red/blue wars, that you promote, encourage, and live off of.


A Thought
It sometimes amazes me that any of my generation grew up to be even vaguely normal. With the way our parents brought us up, its a wonder we are not all in the funny farm now, but then who would take care of the boomers then.
My parents bought into that crap, and it makes me say when I see them now, their minds and their judgment addled by drugs, and their eyes full of remorse for the loss of their lives, unable to deal with the concept that they are getting old. They are terrified of getting old and act as if it is some cruel trick committed against them alone. Now the fact of where they stashed their own parents as they grew frail is coming back to haunt them.
Though the baby boomers do owe an apology, mostly what I feel for them is pity, and I hope that I can truly learn from their experience. Of any of the wasted generations, they where it's the apogee of how to waste ones life.

A thought continued
I think the worst trick the boomers played on themselves as so many of them slide into old age alone, having cast off the burden of marriage to "discover themselves" or chase whatever physical pleasure they wanted at the moment. So many of them are once, twice or three times divorced, getting old and utterly alone.

Stormrunner
Back to Hell, demon. Crawl back into your "it never works" communist playbook. And take all your leftish let's destroy America fiends with you.

"I have seen the enemy and it is us"
This quote comes from a very strange place, the cartoon PoGo. Dennis is quite right of course but I am not going to take personal blame only blame for my generation.

Want to blame someone for the deficit, I am afraid you need to go back a little further to the FDR administration, and it continues today well into the leadership of the offspring of the baby boomer generation.

I have to take exception to the Social Security blame, it is we that have put in the most for Social Security, if we do the right thing now and let people invest their own money, the next generation will have 20 plus years to salvage a decent retirement. We feel as ripped off as you do probably more, we were deceived by big government people that needed a way to pay for their big ideas.

People I still know fall into both categories, those that are still living in the 60’s and those that are responsible contributors to our society. Democrats are probably not going to like it but all my friends that have come through to the other side of the darkness that was the 60’s are Republicans. Those still blaming some one else for their lack of initiative are either non voters or Democrats.

At a time when our WWII vets are leaving us at a rate of a thousand a day, our parade in Bangor has a couple of hundred proud WWII veterans and exactly two Vietnam vets. This one I am going to plead guilty to but there must be some historic perspective to this one, Vietnam vets have always been looked at as second class citizens. It is easy to look back without a threat as it was and say it was a needless war, but I challenge those that think that way to research the subject. What was needless was the loss of life because LBJ had no clue how to fight a war and was clueless about foreign affairs. Had Nixon won in 1960 there is no doubt in my mind that we would have been victorious in South East Asia. Here is the saddest of all our sins, not passing on the love of our great country.
barrym@tds.net

You're a 'beaut" alright
Boutte,

C'mon. We had no quarrel with the Japanese? Japan was already looking to surrender when we dropped the bomb? Did you happen to notice that it took not one, but two atomic bombs to convince them to surrender?

There are a few kernels of truth in what you write, but the rest is just crazy talk. Tell the guys at the John Birch Society that I said "hi."


O'
I FORGOT TO TELL YOU, I HAVE NOTHING TO ASK FORGIVENESS FOR...YOUR TURN....

Apologize? For what?????
I'm sick and tired of baby boomers like myself being the new convenient scapegoat for all of America's ills. I personally have nothing to apologize for and won't do so because I did nothing wrong. Besides I was born in the middle of the boom so I have no recollections of hippies or of how great Woodstock was. Enough with the pointless stereotypes and scapegoating.

Why not blame the Greatest Generation for America's ills instead???? After all they took a flying leap into bed the minute World War II ended and created us selfish boomers!!!

ISN'T IT TRUE...
That those who are not able to consider another person's welfare because they are worried about their own welfare, would not logically be depended on for their own close particulars? Doesn't the whole question boil down to : Who took the easy way out....somebody failed us. While we were touting that we were the greatest NATION in the world. Isn't it time someone be held accountable? Don't we do that in our neighborhoods? What kind of lives do you live...by your own consent?

No bs
Prager is talking about the generation as a whole and the so-called "opinion leaders" in the media and academia. A huge number of Boomers have lived decent, productive lives. But the legacy our generation in total is passing on is, in many ways, socially destructive.

Drug abuse, divorce, sexual promiscuity, self-centeredness, disrespect for all authority, rampant materialism. All these things can be pinned largely on the Baby Boom generation.

I tell you what...
I think you you should keep your filthy hands out of other people's lives, as it is clear, you have your own sins to resolve with GOD. Praying for ya!

Zena,
To whom are you spewing your venom? I'm having trouble following your comments.

Zena
I see that you are a hatefully religious person. May I suggest you stop by the Westboro Baptist Church on Sunday. They love folks like you.

Boutte
Apparently you are hopelessly ignorant of history in general and WW2 in particular.

Your post is a laughingstock of ignorance and doesn't even deserve a point-by-point rebuttle. Anyone who would post such nonsense is beyond hope of education or reason.

A Life of Apologising...
Prager: Given that you're a baby boomer, make your own stupid apologies.

There are stupid people in any generation. The "greatest generation" was certainly no exception what with deciding that it could simply collectively and legislatively reward itself for having fought in WWII whether it individually actually fought or not, create Ponzi schemes like Social Security and then rob the kitty any time that it needed some extra money for gov't programmes and the like. Individually, they abused alcohol, tobacco and amphetamines almost to an individual.

LOL! The worst, I think though, was having to sit with them through all those tedious and interminable movies about WWII and the "Great Depression" so that they wouldn't forget just how great they'd been.

The most fun of all, though was growing up with the nightmares I had about MAD during the Cold War and the idiocy of the Vietnam War. I lost count of the number of times that I heard the dumb homily, "old men make wars, young men fight them", while Johnson and his Kennedy administration leftovers waged what was just about the most bungled war in American history.

Sorry, Dennis, I'm done with collective guilt and apologies. I'll make the apologies for what I did wrong personally to my kids and have many times. Collectivism is, however, out.

apology????
i am 59 an i say this. no man should ever join the military for any reason. not one. no man should ever sign up for the selective service. not one. ever. no man should be willing to sacrifice his future, his honor or his life for this country until women agree to do the same thing. if a young man does not do the ss thing at 18 he his denied federal fund/grants for schooling. and housing. and most benefits that go women. i tell you, the women of MY generation see know problem with that. apology? i have been fighting the good fight for 30 years and still would bet 75% of readers here disagree with me. i was in vietnam. so what. i came home to a women who dumped me and stole all my money and ran off with another guy. i just pushed forward. she did find time to go to collage while i was gone. ain't love special? wise up america.

ON BEING A BABY BOOMER
We baby boomers didn't just make things up as we went along in life. There was no "spontaneous combustion".

Prior generations, very few of whom attended college or traveled abroad, lived much the same way, year after year. They lived by the rule "If it ain't broke don't fix it". The GI gen. came of age with growth in big government that came with the Depression and World War II. They were the first generation with a large college educated group, made possible by the GI Bill. The GI gen. came to take a favorable view of big government and trusted the "experts", instead of viewing them with suspicion as prior generations might have.

The Kinsey report was widely accepted. When Dr. Benjamin Spock came along with his "Baby and Child Care" and permissiveness, most GI gen. parents took the doctor at his word.

All of this became "conventional wisdom" and went mostly unquestioned. There was no conservative movement as we know it now. The John Birch Society was regarded as "lunatic fringe". "National Review" was a niche publication. Ronald Reagan, on the other hand, was able to popularize conservatism and influence people to rethink "conventional wisdom". Reagan was a Democrat until the 1960s.

And then there is Marilyn Quayle, Dan's wife, who , I seem to recall, said, in effect, "Not all of us were out there protesting and smoking pot".

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot tell you how often I have sat across from sad, shattered kids and conveyed many of these same sentiments! While whatever others have done does not make them permanent victims, it is important to recognize and acknowledge the undergirding beliefs and practices of of the lies they have been steeped in and hurt by.


I am printing this and will distribute it to kids, when appropriate, starting in one hour!

What a Load
You would think the baby boomers have been sucking the country dry in some selfish me first conspiracy.

The say the generation prior to the boomers was the greatest generation. I don't buy that. What makes it so? They were no better nor worse than any other.

The changes Prager describes could only evolve through 'State' actions.

stormrunner
Sorry, but what planet are you from? The left and right sit down together? I personally do not apologize for anything. I was raised by hard working parents on Audie Murphy and John Wayne, Truth, Justice, and the American Way. I volunteered in a time when it was very unpopular to do so because of a war, because I believed in my country. It was lucky for the “love” generation, that none showed up to spit on me when I returned home. I raised my children with the same values. I will set down with the left when they give up abortion (murder in my book and probably a waste of some great talent) and when they quit thinking the world owes them everything and will help the people who are truly needy, not everyone with selfish needs! Of course this sadly consists of too many of the right now also, but I am not, nor will I ever be one of them.

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
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Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

Not This Baby Boomer
I was a member of the Young Republicans on my college campus in the late 60s/early 70s. I've never tried dope and although I married and divorced, I never had any kids to screw up nor did I murder any in the womb. I still think cops and the military do a good job, wars are waged to be won, and the only bad religion has to do with people trying to kill people to spread said religion. I'm a baby boomer and I'm not apologizing to anyone.

And while we're on the topic, is one of the most moronic things currently going on in our culture this constant insistence on public apology? Everytime someone demands one I want to puke.

Everyone Owes Everyone an Apology
You can do that with any generation. Point out the negative influences they had while ignoring the good. Focus on the negavie and ignore contributions to civil rights, rights of women and building the greatest economy and country in the history of the world.

Boutte
You off your meds? Did you pay any attention in school at all? You do know we were attacked and THEN the Nazi’s declared war on us three days later, right? Another little bit of news is WE WON!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

We Who, White Man?
I apologize for nothing. I was the second person in my family to even attend university and one of the first to graduate from high school; I worked my way through and helped my younger sisters; I brought my kids up with no help from anybody, including working two jobs so they could go to Catholic school; I have never taken a dime in charity, and have given a lot of it, including my time and talent as well as my treasure. I started training my kids as soon as they weree born, and could take them to ballet and classical concerts by the time they were four years old -- and both have grown up to be fine young men. I have absolutely nothing to apologize for.

My parents brought me and my sisters up to be responsible for our behaviour, and although they did not bail us out when we screwed up, they always made sure we and our children were looked after (that is, they asked if we needed anything and might slip in a little something when needed). In turn we are caring for them in their old age as we ought to.

In fact, I have helped to bring up more than my own children, and I do it because I love it. I am successful at my work and I neither curse nor screw around nor encourage it in others. I am a devout Catholic and not the cafeteria kind. I have voted in every election since I turned 21 and I am an informed voter.

So if you feel the need to blame yourself for the way your children turned out, go for it. But leave me out of it. I AM NOT GUILTY.

It could be that the boomer life
began first in WW I when fathers were removed from families to fight the "war to end all wars"?

Can you keep them down on the farm after they've seen gay (early 1900s the word meant only "happy") Paree (Paris).

treasonous repugs
Well, I can’t say I don’t agree somewhat. Truth is he refuses to close our borders and protect this country. Another truth is, he is kind of like the left in that he wants a globalist world and that to me is no better than the communist left wanting a communist society! Yes I also read comics when I was growing up, but that’s not where I gleaned my values from, that was my parents! Also please note that you are NOT God's eyes!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

It could be that the boomer life
began first in WW I when fathers were removed from families to fight the "war to end all wars"?

Can you keep them down on the farm after they've seen gay (early 1900s the word meant only "happy") Paree (Paris).

Once again
The truth hurts. What are all the trolls getting so pisssed about? Liberals even today espouse sexual freedom and, if it feels good, do it. Do they give their children the tools to lead successful lives? Or are we just kidding ourselves? They pretty much stand for nothing- taking the easy way out of everything and constantly make excuses for what doesn't go their way and ususally want the gov't to fix it.

I am the product of baby boomers myself. My father is still "dazed and confused" while my mother was the one with all the values. It makes me sick to think that my Grandmother blamed herself for her son's lack of ambition, values and everything else. He just wanted a pass on life so that he could do what felt good. Boy howdy, he sure did, and my mother busted her asss to provide for three children and keep us in line. Boy howdy! She's got three great kids,

treasonous repugs
You seeing that on mainstream media? Communist News Network maybe? I think they are and should be stopped IMO.

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Baby Boomers Owe America's Young People
I have to agree with all you said, Children today are not allowed to have the same that I remember recieving when I grew up. That includes discipline in all aspects. What is wrong with that ? I am 45 years old and as I see it , all the discipline that I recieved both verbally and a lil spanking on the behind when needed, never hurt me. It taught me to be a better more respectful person when I got older. The values today is more generated on the "Me" therory, as myself and some of my friends sit back and look, what ever happened to the "think of others and the consequences" therory that we were taught? All I can say is I am glad I raised my children and teach my grandchildren that same way that in which I was taught.

Fascinating Column
And for the most part, very thoughtful responses. There are kernels of truth in many, if not most, of these posts.

I'm not big on group apologies, but I sense that Mr. Prager is probably not either. So taking his tone, which seems a bit tongue in cheek to me, I would second previous posters' comments about boomers' failing to pass on the necessity of making a distinction between good from evil. I'll add to that, the failure to teach that being judgmental - tempered with compassion, of course - is not a mortal sin.

And an aside to J. Points taken, but I wouldn't be too smug and condescending. As boomers, we've watched a few other generations come of age, from "Generation X", to the new cyber brats (the "Millenials" or something like that? - they were on 60 Minutes) who are informing anyone over about 22 that they are not with it, technologically adrift, and irrelevant. This new generation is writing the new rules, they've never seen hard times and will never see any, they have no loyalty but to themselves, and they are making tons of money by hopping jobs and always will. Not sure how old you are, but I haven't seen a generation pass through yet that was so collectively terrific that they were or are in a great position to point too many fingers.

The Politics of Division
As if we didn't have enough obsessive liberal versus conservative devisiveness now comes Prager with his obsession with the baby boomer generation (He often uses this as a fallback theme on his radio show). He is too intelligent to not realize the truth in the saying, "all generalizations including this one are false." He would do better to simply discuss important issues without alienating what is probably the majority of our citizens.

Yes, But It Was Just A Fast Forward
Apologies frequently are useless and this is one but does lay a bit of the blame on the boomers. It was just a fast forward of our ignorance and it has caught us up in our "feel good" and I-want-it-now population. The lack of sense and reverence for proper values, and lack of appreciation for what we had is very apparent in the candidates running for president. It applies also to almost all of the nuts now in Congress. All of the presidential candidates from both party are snivelers, liars, flip-floppers, ignorant (or did I already say that), self-absorbed, elitists, with such noble ideas of I-can-turn-the-world-into-something-much-better. Most all of them have had their hand in the cookie jar in one form or another, have lied their way to fame - and dare I say fortune, and want me to vote for them. As always, I will hold my nose when voting and be assured that whichever one wins, will no doubt be another disaster.

Don't forget Hollywood, Dennis
Don't forget Hollywood, Dennis – Part one

I agree with Praeger in some respects, in other respects not, but Dennis has forgotten one disgusting product of the baby boomers: today's entertainment industry.

I'm on the tail end of the so-called "greatest generation," having been conceived in 1942 before my father went off to Europe to jump out of perfectly good airplanes to kill Germans - a VERY necessary task. But I'm close enough to the baby-boomers that I consider myself more of a baby-boomer than a GG member, mainly because I had nothing to do with fighting WW2 or suffering the depression.

As a typical baby boomer I was too self absorbed trying maintain grades in college and jumpstart a motorcycle roadracing career at the same time to pay much attention to politics until the early 60's.

After I did become politically aware, I remember the first thing (entertainment wise) that really ticked me off was the first time I watched "Hogan's Heroes." I was outraged that some idiot would depict members of the Third Reich as loveable, laughable little buffoons who're easily duped by Hogan and his band. The Third Reich was neither incompetent nor loveable, and if it were'nt for Hitler's massive ego, America's industrial might, and the Soviet's fortitude and sacrifice, WW2 might have turned out differently. I don't mean to minimize the role of the Western Allies (except of course, France) but the turning point in the war in Europe was not the D-Day invasion, but Stalingrad. (The writing on the wall for Japan was Midway.)

Dennis
I will NOT apologize for:

For believing that 2nd place is the first in the line of losers.

For holding doors open for women.

For teaching my young family members that American is second to none.

For serving in the greatest armed forces ever assembled.

For defending my rights given to me by our forefathers.

And last but not least,

For stomping on the turds that want this country to take a back seat to the world.

Don't Forget Hollywood, Dennis Part two
To me, "Hogan's Heroes" was the first serious instance of the current trend in Hollywood of the trivialization of America and her values. Since then the entertainment industry has morphed into little more than a hack mill for pumping out mediocrity promoting a seething hatred of America, her people and the American way - i.e., capitalism, individual freedom, self-determination and personal responsibility.

Although "Hogan's Heroes" was no doubt produced by members of the "Greatest Generation," the baby-boomers in the entertainment industry have taken self-loathing in television, movies and music to a new low. Nearly gone is anything morally uplifting, pro-American or ORIGINAL in Hollywood today. The industry (including video game producers) depicts degenerates as role models, self-destructive behavior as chic or cool, and lawlessness as heroism. Above all, morality is treated as a quaint anachronism and true heroes as psychopaths. I can just imagine Redford or Oliver Stone doing a remake of “To Hell And Back.” I guarantee that they’d find some way to depict Audie Murphy negatively and present the Nazis as victims, just as the roles were reversed in “Munich.”

There is still hope. Baby-boomers are not immortal. As far as I’m concerned, the sooner that generation dies off the better.

t r
I'm glad to see that your so happy that your favorite country Iran, you know the one that

1. keeps selling ied's to insurgents so they can kill americans.
2. Hangs gay people in the streets.
3. lashes women who get raped.

is absolved of any wrong nuclear weapons charges that they have been accused of by the

WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!

your a pathetic excuse of a worm.

Group apologies are smarmy...
Most of what Prager complains that we 'boomers' owe an apology for were ruined well before we reached adulthood. Everything was in decline way before there were any hippies to distrust those over 30. There isn't any reason to have 'respect for authority' when those in authority have over many years shown that they aren't worthy of our respect. Most of us don't make decisions on what gets shown on TV or taught in schools. Schools these days are too lame to even teach students to spell, much less things which might be useful in getting the decent jobs. Don't blame everyone of these problem on us boomers to apologize over.

TR scribbles:
TR scribbles:
pathetic. absolutely pathetic. you are the problem.
Doc writes:
No, you’re the disease, we are the cure!
TR scribbles:
are crow and humble pie good for breakfast?
Doc writes:
I would not know, I do not eat crow, unlike libs. My point is, I would rather take out some buildings than have to invade, or have a dirty bomb set off here in, yes, even your town!

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Doc
isn't it a wonderful world we live in. Only in america can we have someone cheering for the same people who wish us dead. T R is truly a pig rolling in his own c##p. In my next post, the truth for the Nam Vets will be known to all. I wonder what T R will come up with to defend that one.

Cooltruth
What a pantload.

What's your excuse now? The baby-boomers are in charge now and not only have things not gotten any better since we took over, but things are on the verge of collapse.

How, with idiots like Bush, Kennedy, Reid and Pilosi, and the 535 self-serving morons in Congress in charge and running the country into bankruptcy, you can still claim viability as a generation? Give me a break.

We've destroyed the traditional family, the public educational system, padded the juditial system with freaks and turned the federal government into a hugely bloated, ineffective, monstrously expensive club for incompetents. Our borders remain open to millions of illegal wetbacks who're sucking the life out of our so-called safety net.

That's nobody's fault but ours - we self-absorbed, intellectually lazy, incredibly immoral, America hating baby-boomers.

Hey T R
here is something for you to chew on. Moron.

"General Vo Nguyen Giap. General Giap was a brilliant, highly respected leader of the North Vietnam military. The following quote is from his memoirs currently found in the Vietnam war memorial in Hanoi:

"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"

General Giap has published his memoirs and confirmed what most Americans knew. The Vietnam war was not lost in Vietnam -- it was lost at home. The exact same slippery slope, sponsored by the US media, is currently well underway. It exposes the enormous power of a biased media to cut out the heart and will of the American public.

A truism worthy of note: "Do not fear the enemy, for they can take only your life. Fear the media far more, for they will destroy your honor."

At whose expense...
"Our parents had liberated the world from immeasurably cruel and murderous regimes in Germany and Japan -- solely thanks to waging war."

Why did "Democrat(?)" FDR waste over 1/4 million American lives to ensure communist Stalin remained in power? While on the surface it appeared that we were defending spineless Europeans (especially the sissified French) from fellow Europeans - Germans, in reality communist FDR wasted so many of our lives to ensure that social-fascist Russia would remain in power (rather than be defeated by social-fascist Germany). WWII was a REAL waste of American lives!

Not boomers, LIBERAL boomers need to
apologize! I am at the tail end of the boomers (52), and I saw what all before, and after me had done. Then - as now, it is NOT an entire generation that has to apologize, it is the MEDIA and the LIBERAL thinkers who should apologize for the damages they have wrought.

I HATED the Beatles, and that whole drug induced "Give Peace a Chance" crap they were spewing, and all the other hippie, drug induced pronouncements that came down in the 60's and 70's, to boot. All you have to do is look at any movie made between 1965 and 1975, and you will see it is total crap, made by total drug addicts. I didn't even watch TV for that whole decade, because it was all soooo caustic to the family, and America.

I apologize to no one. I have never taken a dime from the government, and the government has taken a boatload of money from me. I taught my children well, and even home schooled briefly, when they were being too indoctrinated at the public schools.

I blame Liberals/progressives for everything that is wrong with this country, and everything that has gone wrong since the mid 50's, when I was born. I won't apologize to anyone for any of it, because I hated it - even before it was cool to hate it.

And I don't apologize to Blacks, or Hispanics, or women, or handicapped people, or anyone else with a gripe, either. "I" did nothing to cause, or perpetuate your problems, and "I" do not OWE you anything. Least of all, an apology!

SSGT
One thing we all know for sure SSgt, Beat them on their thick skulls with the facts like a sledgehammer, and they will still come back with the defeatist communist talking points.

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TR
You sound like a dumas, when all you do is to keep spewing your defeatist communist talking points, just like your masters taught you. Wise up and come on over to the winning team and get in for the big win!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
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Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

SSGT
Well put, but you're spaeaking to people who haven't a clue or memory of events which happened last week, never mind thirty years ago.

The one thing, and one thing only that I agree with Michael Moore about was his declaration that Americans are the stupidest people on the planet. Since WW2 we have constantly and eagerly worked very hard for our own destruction.

We listen to self-serving politicians on both sides, we believe the media without question when they spin, lie and distort, and above all, because of those two factions, we've become so divided we won't listen to each other.

Like I said, the best thing for America is for the baby boomers to die off and the next generations completely forget the idiocy we espoused.

Doc
its hard for them to realize that, cause they have no clue what "WIN" means. But ask them what "DEFEAT" means, and they can lop an essay at you in a heartbeat!