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Tuesday, June 02, 2009
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
Murder in Wichita
by Debra J. Saunders
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If law enforcement officials believe they can prove that Scott Roeder is guilty of Sunday's shooting death of abortion doctor George Tiller at the Reformation Lutheran Church in Wichita, Kan., then they should work to put him away for life. Roeder is being held on first-degree murder and two counts of aggravated assault.

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In killing Tiller, the gunman did more than commit one violent act that ended a man's life. The murder also served to intimidate abortion providers -- and perhaps chase some professionals out of the practice altogether. Thus by use of murder, the shooter set out to achieve that which he could not achieve through the democratic political process.

Boulder, Colo., abortion doctor Warren Hern called the killing "a political assassination in a historic pattern of anti-abortion political violence. It was terrorism," according to the Associated Press.

Unfortunately, the National Right to Life Committee issued a statement that lacked Hern's clarity and outrage. The statement extended sympathy to Tiller's family, then condemned "any such acts of violence regardless of motivation. The pro-life movement works to protect the right to life and increase respect for human life. The unlawful use of violence is directly contrary to that goal."

I understand that anti-abortion activists considered Tiller's practice of late-term abortions to be heinous in and of itself -- and they had a moral argument. But that moral argument is undermined by the shooting of a doctor -- in a church of all places.

And it doesn't help when Randall Terry, an anti-abortion activist, tells reporters, "George Tiller was a mass murderer. We grieve for him that he did not have time to properly prepare his soul to face God. I am more concerned that the Obama administration will use Tiller's killing to intimidate pro-lifers into surrendering our most effective rhetoric and actions." Most effective actions? Like shooting people?

Any responsible anti-abortion leader should have nothing to do with Randall Terry.

Mary Kay Culp, the head of Kansans for Life, had a better take when she told Time Magazine, "We work through the legislative process. This is bad because it's murder and bad because it's a threat to the integrity of an important issue."

The timing could not be worse for the anti-abortion movement. Just last month, the Gallup Poll reported that 51 percent of Americans now call themselves pro-life rather than pro-choice on the issue of abortion. This murder occurred as the anti-abortion message seems to be resonating with the public, even if it does not necessarily prevail in court.

Last year, a Kansas grand jury declined to indict Tiller on charges of violating state abortion laws, although it noted that a review of medical records "revealed a number of questionable late-term abortions." In March, Tiller was acquitted on charges that he failed to get an independent second opinion -- stipulating that continuing a pregnancy would make the woman suffer "substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function," as required by Kansas law -- before performing 19 late-term abortions in 2003.

Asked about late-term abortions, Stanford Professor William Hurlbut, who sits on the President's Council on Bioethics, told me he believes doctors shrink from performing late-term abortions, not out of fear of intimidation, as Hern suggested, but because the procedure goes against the "impulse to heal." He noted the "two contrary impulses -- killing and nurturing" in having doctors perform abortions. And: "The later abortion is, the more evident and vivid that contrast is."

That's a discussion for another day.

Today, the issue is murder. Today, the issue is an extremist attitude that encourages lawlessness and even murder. And when a gunman walks into a crowded church and shoots a man dead, that man cannot stand for life.

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Cognitive dissonance? Not really...
do some people deserve to be killed? Undoubtedly, yes. Yet I am adamantly opposed to capital punishment, on moral as well as practical grounds.

One can be against abortion, and also against the murder of one of its practicioners, without any conflict of principle, especially a christian who believes in the power of forgiveness and redemption above all else.

Consistency Is Conservative
I am against abortion. I am utterly against murder, including the murder of Dr. Tiller. I am against capital punishment for his murderer. These are consistent positions, springing from the same respect for life. The only reason to kill anyone is self defense or defense of family and neighbors. This would include military defense-- there are thugs in the world neighborhood.

Gestell says that we should logically be for the murder of Tiller if we think he's a murderer. His presumption is that we are only against certain murders, which is a charge I bring against Gestell himself. He is perfectly fine with late term abortions where a viable fetus is killed as long as they are in some sense legal. In short, he approves of certain murders and not others. I think it is a great pity that Dr. Tiller was not brought to justice for his ILLEGAL abortions, which were approved by a strawman doctor who rubber stamped all his late term abortions. That would have been justice. His murder was not.

@ Gestell
Let me try to follow along:
1 You support "choice"...
2 These procedures are disposing of nothing more than the equivalent of, say, a carrot, so all is good...
3 The right advocates the opposite of your position; that’s not to be tolerated…
4 There is a tiny fringe group on the right that supports an “anything goes” posture as it applies to practitioners...
5 Even though you are well aware that there are millions on the right that do not agree with that reasoning -- even the slightest notion -- that will be set aside for the purpose of scoring points on the internet…
6 Never able to waste an opportunity, you and many like you must clump the right in one tight group to make yourselves feel better…
7 Hence, conservatives are all horrible murderers; Osama has nothing on them…
8 Come on conservatives, embrace your depravity…

Did I get that right? You appear to represent nothing more than the lowest common denominator. By your “logic” the left is responsible for the soldier’s death in Arkansas yesterday. Here let me try:

*You should be lamenting that your misunderstood hero was only able to kill one wretched meat-eating, CO2 producing, Wall Street-loving, murderous, Allah-hating crusader yesterday in Little Rock.*

See how easy that is?

"Any means necessary" not conservative
Crocodile tears?! Give me a break. The only thing reptilian is the insistence that one be able to extinguish one's unborn child (what next - one's fussy toddlers?!) on the same basis as removing one's appendix. "Lifestyle preferences" ought to have limits. "Any means necessary" indeed!

There is no disconnect in expressing regret or sorrow for a man's murder, and sorrow for the killings the same man oversaw or conducted, however protected by law those are. The law cannot regulate my emotional response to the death of innocents, nor should it!

As I recall, "any means necessary" is not a conservative line. The means do matter. One must stand against atrocity without committing one. This is intensely difficult in dire circumstances, but such are the challenges of our time. Murder is forbidden by both the Lawgiver and the law of the land.

Rather, "any means necessary" is the cry of certain revolutionaries scratching for power however it may be gotten. Instances of judicial activism come to mind... Notice how, absent the Rule of Law, one's recourses devolve to raw power. Want to stand AGAINST vigilante justice? Stand FOR the Rule of Law.

It is unspeakably dark that in our time millions have been murdered before - and now some even after - exiting the womb. As a nation, what have we done to our children? The conservative's challenge is to stand against the tide and not lose oneself in the process. Should we stand against the murder of millions? Yes. Forty million times, yes. Does it matter HOW we stand against those murders? Again, I say, yes. It is not the individual's task to attempt to execute severe justice.

Gestell wrote:
"What on earth did conservatives think would come from their anti-abortion rants? Can anyone on the Right really think that the venom spewed by anti-abortion activists had nothing to do with this act of domestic terrorism? The image that the anti-abortion presents to the world is one of hatred and violence. Little else."

How about this: What on earth did liberals think would come from their pro-abortion policies. Can anyone on the left really think that the actions supported by pro-abortion activists had nothing to do with this act of domestic terrorism? The image that the pro-abortion presents to the world is one of hatred and violence. Little else.

What About Little Rock?

No one is celebrating the murder of Dr. Tiller and I fail to understand how a man, who performed 60,000 abortions in the history of his practice and 250 near term abortions a year, should be glorified.

Ms. Saunders, will you write a story called "Murder In Little Rock" and discuss the murder of a military recruiter by a Muslim-convert, who confessed?

Eddie
"The only thing reptilian is the insistence that one be able to extinguish one's unborn child " Quite right. Alligators and swine eat their young. Human beings do not.

reply to my critics
I am quite aware that there are many abortion opponents who truly belive that they can condemn the murder of Dr. Tiller. However, I do not think they have understood their own position with sufficient care.

I expect conservatives to portray any woman seeking an abortion as an immoral tramp who should be forced to carry her baby to term and take care of the child. I guess as a kind of punishment (based on the tone of many conservative comments along these lines). I do not expect conservatives to have any empathy (and we know conservatives don't believe in such liberal nonsense as empathy) for the situation of a teenage mother. I expect conservatives to fantasize, as anti-abortion right-wing intellectuals like Robert George do, that a blastocyst is identical with a full term human baby. I expect conservatives to stand on principle, and I suggest that such principle can easily justify the murder of Dr. Tiller.

Gestell
"I expect conservatives to portray any woman seeking an abortion as an immoral tramp who should be forced to carry her baby to term and take care of the child. I guess as a kind of punishment (based on the tone of many conservative comments along these lines). I do not expect conservatives to have any empathy" Your expectations have no relationship to the reality. Millions of conservatives do both professional and volunteer work for women with problem pregnancies. They make up the majority of foster parents. They are more likely to give money to children's charities. At every turn, you find conservative Christians and Jews doing the front line work for young mothers in difficulty. You even find a few secularists there-- though not that many. In my own case, besides having a professional career investigating child abuse in the seventies, I have also been a foster parent for teenagers who were victims of incest. I also adopted a baby who was conceived as the result of rape. My story isn't unusual-- there are millions more Christians who have done more. You should read "Christianity Today" or other similar publications to see just what Christian conservatives really are focused on. You can't just make them up from whole cloth.

Ms Saunders is wrong, as usual
"Thus by use of murder, the shooter set out to achieve that which HE COULD NOT achieve through the democratic political process." (emphasis mine)
Given the opportunity, the Democratic process would shut down abortion. If society had a chance to vote on abortion, it would be outlawed in the majority of states. This is what should occur. You want to end partial birth abortion? Allow a vote. You want to end the murder of abortionists? Allow a vote.

Agenda
Of all the murders to highlight, isn't it a curiosity that this one bothers Debra.

It's your agenda, stupid. The right to kill is reserved only for those who rip babies out of the womb.

Dress it up any way you want. Talk in circles all you want. Lay the blame on conservatives all you want. But in the end, killing babies is mighty low.

Reply to Gestell's Reply
Why the false dilemma between principles and empathy? Why do you apparently have no empathy for the unborn? At what point does the "blastocyst" (sounds bad - why not destroy it?!) become a person? Why must empathy mean to let someone do whatever they want to do - regardless of impact on another? And when will your empathy for parents justify their abandoning or slaughtering of their own outside the womb?

I suggest that your principles more easily justify the murder of children.

Strong words, eh? I mean you no personal ill. But these ideas of yours need to be challenged. A child is not a punishment. Abandoning your responsibilies is no answer to a tough situation.

How far do you folks go?
I assume from the self-righteous tones of my critics that they are all the sort of conservatives who really would deny the right of any woman to have an abortion, no matter what the circumstances might be. So the 10 year old raped by her father has to give birth? Right. That shows me just how moral you folks really are. There are pregnancies where the life (and not simply the mental health) of the mother is at risk, and there are many other complications. But you right-wingers just know that every pregnancy should come to term, no matter what the cost to anyone involved.

At least I will credit you with one thing: you, like the murderer of Dr. Tiller, understand that ideological conflict is lethal. How nice for you.

Respect for Dr. Tiller's Family
My sympathies go out to Dr. Tiller’s family for their loss. The death of a loved one is one of life’s harshest realities. To have a loved one murdered is much worse and something I can identify with having lived through it. It is a wound that never heals.

I ask that all conservatives demonstrate proper respect for Dr. Tiller’s family and friends. Remember we are not like some TH posters who take joy in the suffering of political opponents. We know and understand decency can and should transcend politics.

Awe..... the fake moral outrage
It is truly amazing BS coming from the self righteous tone of the tolerant, compassionate left wing liberals that think waterboarding is torture, but would deny the right for a baby to be born.

There are many left wingers ( I used to be a liberal and it's not pretty) that think that a woman should get an abortion just because it will inconvenience her and because,"it's my body," Good thing our mothers didn't feel the same way. There are only 2 doctors (now ) in the US that perform late term abortions after 21 weeks,that we know about, and there does not have to be a threat, to the mothers life, for that to happen.

I guess the rest of the doctors don't feel comfortable terminating a baby that far along or pulling little legs and arms off, scalding the skin off; and sometimes beheading.

Murder is never called for, in regards to Tiller or an unborn child, a fetus(Latin for offspring)(or is it a dog, cat,a blob?) God says He made us in the womb, so it seems that that life is just as important as the mothers.

No wonder so much confusion, our own President votes against a ban on partial birth abortion and says babies are "punishments." So much for helping the poor and defenseless.(oh, yes, they don't pay taxes, I forgot) even tho he said he doesn't even know when life begins, "it's above his pay grade." but hey, when in doubt, Abort.

Of course there is "moral" outrage from the left wingers regarding Tiller and abortion, but no outrage regarding the soldier who was shot down in Arkansas by a Muslim radical. I do feel bad for Tillers family. It was a horrible thing to happen. But as my "friend" the poetic left winger Gestell said,(adding my own spin) at least I will credit you lefties with one thing: you, like the murderer of unborn babies, understand that ideological conflict is lethal. I pray for you.

grieving and grief
Some of George Tiller's patients are grieving for him...the other half of his patients may be meeting with him right now.


terroism
Must be opposed no matter what. I do not like abortion but i refuse to resort to terrorism to reduce it. Killing of abortion doctors puts to lie everything the PRO-life movement stands for.
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