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Sunday, March 22, 2009
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
Congress, Overtax Thyself
by Debra J. Saunders
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There is no group more dangerous than one with some power, no scruples and leaders who think that they are really smart and that everyone else is really, really stupid. That description sadly fits not only the Wall Street swells whose credit default swaps toppled U.S. financial markets but also Congress.

Like you, I am outraged at the $165 million paid out in AIG bonuses. I'm furious at the very notion of a bailed-out-by-taxpayers corporation meting out bonuses to anyone "regardless of performance," according to The New York Times' DealBook. Most galling of all, recipients include geniuses from the department that tanked AIG with bad paper.

But as Americans keep discovering, bad can get worse. Witness the House bill that passed Thursday by a 328-93 vote to levy a 90 percent tax on bonuses for executives at corporations that got more than $5 billion in bailout bucks. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi proclaimed: "With this resolution, I think that we are making two important statements. One is that the administration should continue in its efforts to recoup, recover the money and prevent these bonuses from going forward. And the other is that we want our money back and we want our money back now for the taxpayers."

Two statements? What about: By about a 328-93 ratio, House members would vote to throw their mothers out of the lifeboat to save themselves.

Here's the short version of why that House vote is probably unconstitutional. As Rep. Dan Lungren, R-Calif., noted before his "nay" vote: "There is something called a bill of attainder. You can't punish a group because you don't like them. You can't have them treated more onerously than somebody else without a trial."

Now for the question as to whether there is any honor left in Washington. President Barack Obama and Congress had the opportunity to pass a measure before the AIG bonuses were paid to limit bonuses paid by corporations that have received federal bailout funds. Yet Congress failed to do so.

Au contraire , the Obama stimulus package included a measure to protect "any bonus payment required to be paid pursuant to a written employment contract executed on or before February 11, 2009."

Sen. Christopher Dodd -- the largest recipient of AIG executives' political contributions in the U.S. Senate, according to the Center for Responsive Politics -- told CNN Tuesday that he had no idea who inserted that language into the Obama stimulus bill. Then Wednesday, Dodd was forced to admit he himself had submitted that language -- at the request of the Obama Treasury Department.

In California this week, President Obama told a town hall meeting: "I know Washington's all in a tizzy, and everybody's pointing fingers at each other and saying it's their fault, the Democrats' fault, the Republicans' fault. Listen, I'll take responsibility; I'm the president."

After the House passed the tax-the-bonuses bill, Obama announced, "Now this legislation moves to the Senate, and I look forward to receiving a final product that will serve as a strong signal to the executives who run these firms that such compensation will not be tolerated."

It would be a sorry example of taking responsibility for Obama to sign a measure that goes back on not only his own stimulus package but also the very language that his people asked Dodd to insert. I feel as if I'm watching a movie in which a hired thug kills someone and then another hired thug kills the first thug and then another thug kills the second thug.

In less than two months in office, Obama has shown that in a town full of snakes, he's the fastest runner. Who on Wall Street will trust him now?

On Monday, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, suggested AIG executives take old-fashioned responsibility and show remorse for their failures -- and "resign or go commit suicide," a statement that Grassley later half-rescinded Washington-style.

Actually, AIG Chief Executive Officer Edward Liddy was working on just that. As he told a House Financial Services subcommittee Wednesday, some bonus recipients volunteered to return 100 percent of their bonuses, and he was asking those who make more than $100,000 a year to return half.

If Liddy can step up to the plate, why not Congress and Obama? If Washington truly believes that entities that screw up should not be subsidized by taxpayers and if Obama truly believes in taking responsibility, then Congress should pass and the president should sign a bill to levy a 90 percent tax on the pay and benefits of Congress and the president. Or they could match AIG and go halves.

Or do members want to argue that more than financial institutions, their precious hides are what is too big to fail?

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This is an Outrage!!!!

"Congress is outraged. Really, really outraged. Unbelievably, incredibly outraged. And there are certainly grounds for anger...

...shocked to find AIG doing what it was allowed to do."
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Congressional Democrats:
"This is an outrage! We'll pass a new tax to get the taxpayers' money back if we have to! I want the names of all those executives who received bonuses to be released to the American public! This is an outrage being perpetrated upon the American public!!"

Conservative Reporter:
"But Mr. and Ms. Congressperson the provision for the bonuses to be paid out is in the President's "Stealfromus" bill. A bill which you signed into law."

Congressional Democrat:
"Why...ah...er...ah...This is an outrage against the American people!! We will seize these bonuses to return to the American..." taxpayers. This is outrageous..."

Conservative Reporter:
"But Mr/Ms Democrat Congressperson? Didn't you sign the President's Stealfromus bill?"

Congressional Democrat:
"Yes...but..ah..er...This is an outrage!!...If I'd known this was going to happen, I never would have signed it!!"

Conservative Reporter:
"Well how did you not know it was in the bill?"

Congressional Democrat:
"Why...er...ah...I...er...I never read it..."
_________________________________________

Meanwhile: This just in silly libtard protestors marching on the lavish lawns of Capitol Hill...er...ah..Strike that!!...the lavish homes of Congressional Democrats...er...ah...Strike that!!...er...ah...AIG executives.

Very poorly thought out, Debra
I see it's safer, and more emotionally soothing, to jump on the populist band wagon, particularly when you're writing for a sinking ship SF newspaper that may throw some people overboard in a last gasp effort to save itself.

I know a girl who was paid by a bank to write mortgage paper. She was processing bad paper but couldn't process it fast enough to suit her masters. They gave her incentives to complete certain volumes by deadlines. She knew it didn't make sense to provide mortgages to some of those deadbeats - but process the paper she did.

Of course, she lost the job when the bubble burst. Do you now say she should return her bonus money?

'Not at all. She didn't get that much! Besides, the other guys were those AIG smuks - FukUm.'

Oh, I see - it's not the principle. It's just who got how much. Thank you, Debra, for your careful and thoughtful analysis. Now take your valium and go to bed - we mustn't allow ourselves to get too emotionally distraught.

Sorry Debra
There was a more thoughtful point there - why don't these government smuks apply the same outrage to themselves.

The bonuses ($170M) amounts to 0.1% of the bailout money paid to AIG - think about that. Was that company worth saving in the first place - would not bankruptcy have been better?

The dhimmis were never concerned about the bonuses when they were in a hurry to get AIG on the hook with 'bailout' money - that was only an demagoguing after thought.

But my point is still valid - why be PO'd at the employees. They were simply doing there jobs, that, to a certain extent, congress and regulators made them - or at least allowed them to do.

Would you like to see them offered up on the odius and obnoxious Frank's sacrificial alter and burned alive?

grubby
Excellent. I couldn't agree more. Debra missed the target right from the start. I'm personally not "outraged" over the AIG bonuses. The congressional "outrage" is focused in the wrong direction. It should be inward. Also, she starts out with the "credit default swaps" trope as a convenient cause for the effect. How about looking harder at your story of the girl writing those mortgages for people that should never have been within 100 miles of mortgages of any kind. This insurance would not be overloaded with claims without the defaults of liar loans.

THE DEATH KNELL OF KEYNES?
Is Obamanomics the death knell of Keynesianism? The death of Keynes in the year George Bush was born may be an ominous sign of the coming end of Keynesian economics in America.

Click ApolloSpeaks and read my piece: Will the Failure of Obamanomics Cure Us of Keynes?.

The best

The best part of last week was the ignorance (stupidity) presented to the public by members of congress. They lied, they ignored the US constitution, they presented the fact they don't read any bills they just follow party line. They don't do their job of representing their districts but, are very successful in kissing the tail of pelosi and harry.
barney is a liar. dodd is a liar. grasley has no courage and retracted part of his statement because the part about suicide should be applied to the senate and the house membership.
Those who voted for leadership by demorats should be ashamed of their abysmal joy in watching their elected ruin,destroy and take socialist power in this country. Remember, you fools, you probably are next.

Rule of law hit by limo
Sorry Debra, I can see everywhere that the rule of law has been lynched, immolated, dumped and run over (by congressional limousine). You too have thrown it out the window. Contracts are legally binding. What people are asking on both sides is anarchy, rule by whim. The Omamaniacs will love this; they see law as an obstacle to be overcome anyway. I had hoped people would see through these proceedings that the purpose of congress in this is the manipulation of simple minds through class and wealth envy. It seems they are succeeding with alarming alacrity.

Txa the bonuesses
If people would listen to what is going on they would see. After 9-11 American airlines started it- they reported the numbers they layed off;but didn't report they took our"BAILOUT" money that was to help them restructure and the next day after layed off the employee reported back to work with a different title plus a raise.Now it is not only private companies but the controlling hands of washington doing it. I don't hear the President or His Secrete Service Flock paying TAXES on transportation for personal vacations for them and their families as income BUT YET THEY TAX THE GENERAL WORKING AMERICANS. AIG is just a smoke screne to get our eyes off them so they can come in the back door and get us again..What about the taxes already paid on the bonus monnies by the recievers {Income tax, Soc Secuity, Medc.]will the government give it back???

What's sad is
we expect this from democrats, but the Republicans (most)in congress are nothing more than the right wing of the liberal, progressive, socialist, fascist, democrat party.

If our elected officials can't stand for the rule of law, what good are they.

And I have even less use for the media enablers who refuse to do their jobs as watchdogs of democracy.

They are teaching us how to hate.




THE MOB "IS" STUPID!

....That's why OBAMBI and the DEMOCRATS were voted into power ...If I were OBAMBI I would be thinking "SUCKERS" ...

.....Huge spending Bills signed into Law without being read ...retroactive taxes targeted to specific groups of citizens ...unions about to get more power than FDR gave them when he signed the Wagner Act ...and this is just the beginning ...how much more damage can this CELEBRITY-IN-CHARGE wreak in the next fours years? ...buckle up AMERICA .....COLOSSUS

The Brownshirts Are Coming!
Click my name and go to my blog and read about Obama's new brownshirt force.

The time to take action against the founding of this force is now, people.

Make sure to let your elected officials know you're against this new development on Obama's part.

HANDSOME SON

.....A Headline you might wish for ...

.....WASH, D.C. ...Back from their recent Arctic Expedition to hunt Polar Bears and baby seals, “radicals” from the outlaw anti-environmentalist group H.A.T.E., (HUMANS ARE THE ENVIRONMENT), somehow managed to smuggle a dozen ravenous Polar Bears into the Senate chambers and then barricaded the doors to prevent the Senators from escaping ...eyewitness reports are sketchy but some report hearing muffled screams from behind the barricades .....COLOSSUS

Ha, Ha
This is rich. Now watch the IRS come after the poor dupes that return the money. After all, they received it as income, didn't they? So what if they gave it back. That wasn't a charitable contribution.

And so when they tax these guys for 165 million, will AIG have to pay back 165 million less?

hail to the chief
Do we really expect anything different from the Obama team? They have been lying, cheating, and corrupt since his campaign. Donations from all over the world, Acorn, Rev,Wright. Questions about his birth certificate, is he really U.S. citizen? This presidency is the biggest joke in American history.

Frank Rich Slams Obama
A CHARMING visit with Jay Leno won’t fix it. A 90 percent tax on bankers’ bonuses won’t fix it. Firing Timothy Geithner won’t fix it. Unless and until Barack Obama addresses the full depth of Americans’ anger with his full arsenal of policy smarts and political gifts, his presidency and, worse, our economy will be paralyzed. It would be foolish to dismiss as hyperbole the stark warning delivered by Paulette Altmaier of Cupertino, Calif., in a letter to the editor published by The Times last week: “President Obama may not realize it yet, but his Katrina moment has arrived.”

Six weeks ago I wrote in this space that the country’s surge of populist rage could devour the president’s best-laid plans, including the essential Act II of the bank rescue, if he didn’t get in front of it. The occasion then was the Tom Daschle firestorm. The White House seemed utterly blindsided by the public’s revulsion at the moneyed insiders’ culture illuminated by Daschle’s post-Senate career. Yet last week’s events suggest that the administration learned nothing from that brush with disaster.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/opinion/22rich.html?_r=1& ref=opinion

The Obama Gong Show
Even before it is officially launched, experts have warned that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's expected plan falls far short of what is needed to ease the financial crisis, with one Nobel prize-winning economist calling it an "awful mess".
The plan builds on the outline Mr Geithner provided last month, which was roundly slammed for lacking vital detail.

Leading US economist Paul Krugman said the scheme would potentially socialise losses and privatise any gains in the financial system, leaving taxpayers worse off. "This plan will produce big gains for banks that didn't actually need any help; it will, however, do little to reassure the public about banks that are seriously undercapitalised," he said.

"And I fear that when the plan fails, as it almost surely will, the administration will have shot its bolt: it won't be able to come back to Congress for a plan that might actually work. What an awful mess."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialc risis/5029122/Tim-Geithners-new-trillion-dollar-US-plan-is- not-enough-experts-warn.html

Will somebody rid us of the turbulent TOXIC PRIEST at Treasury? The WHOLE WORLD is laughing at us and the economy is no laughing matter.

If Obama can't get it together enough to focus on jobs 1, 2, and 3, i.e., THE ECONOMY, he needs to resign ASAP.

Man! Thanks JD's HS
My sentiments also sir.

Did anybody take a good
look at the "protesters" on the AIG tour of the executive's houses?

What a sorry lot!

Each and every one I seen on TV looked like the usual "I want; I demand; You owe me; You're racist, etc" scum sees crawling out of the slums to bellow at the unfairness of it all. There might have been a couple of Nosy Parkers there, but strongly suspect most would have fitted right into ACORN or the group at any welfare/food stamp office. They probably had their own crack dealer with them.


Denise
I never thought I'd see the day that Frank Rich slammed a democrat president. . . the earth is cracking at the equator!

The UK newspapers took Obama and the democrat congress to task too -- big time! The comments of the readers are even better than the articles -- very few comments favoring Obama.

One Limey came up with a nickname for Obama I'd not seen before: "OPROMPTA," for his use of a teleprompter.

JD
My dream is more of the "a meteor hit the Capital" type. Wiping out every snake in the building. Saves me from being a hate monger myself.

Sadly, there may be no more than 2 or 3 worthy republicans to take their place. I am now done with Steele and every R in congress besides Ron Paul. They keep swearing up & down that they "get it". They are returning to conservatism. Then what happens? They do this. They go along with the Dems' constitution be dam*ed bill.

Its over R's. You lose again & finally I am certain there is no redeeming you. May the stinking corpse of the Republican party not decay upwind of me.

Fuzzy
You're not alone! I've heard folks in four-five states say something to the effect that they wished the 9/11 aircraft had hit the capitol, rather than the pentagon.

The republicans keep letting us down, but I don't see an anternate. The chance of a strong third party is slim and none.

We might not have to worry about it. We'll be a banana republic if it keeps going the way it is now. That AIG vote to recoup the bonuses from the executives is classic banana republic.

Who is the liar
How about putting dodd, nobama, and guietner in front of a congressional committee under oath-then ask the question and find out who is lying. Won't happen--no guts in congress only buffonary.

Seadog
I would think that the USA would be more like the Soviet Union for the next 30 years. Then get spit into a few banana republics when its economy can no longer support a military to keep the citizens in line.

For the near future we can pretend to have money because we have nukes & other sophisticated military weapons to keep the world at bay. Not to mention elected officials flying around in private jets & having limos to drive around in.

Up To His A$$ In Alligators

Charlie Rangel's relationship with A.I.G. is a complicated one; as recently as last year, he was trying to woo the company to donate $10 million to a school to be named in his honor. And while A.I.G. officials mulled the request, Mr. Rangel supported a provision in a tax bill that saved the company millions of dollars.

For decades, Mr. Rangel has been a close friend of Maurice R. Greenberg, the chief executive of A.I.G. until 2005, and until recently one of the company’s biggest shareholders. Mr. Greenberg has sponsored fund-raisers on Mr. Rangel’s behalf, and in 2007, a foundation controlled by Mr. Greenberg gave $5 million to the school, the Charles B. Rangel Center for Public Service at the City College of New York.

City College records show that the effort by Mr. Rangel and college officials to persuade A.I.G. to donate to the school went on for two years. In a 2007 e-mail message obtained by The New York Times, City College’s director of development, Rachelle Butler, wrote that Mr. Rangel suggested in early 2006 that fund-raisers concentrate on A.I.G. for a contribution. Two years later — on April 21, 2008 — Mr. Rangel attended a meeting at A.I.G. to ask the company to support the school, without specifically discussing a donation.

A month later, as A.I.G. was still considering a financial contribution, the top executive who had attended the fund-raising meeting wrote a letter to Mr. Rangel, urging him to support a provision of a tax bill that would save A.I.G. millions of dollars a year.

Mr. Rangel dropped his opposition to the tax measure, which eventually became law.

With Mr. Rangel’s personal finances and fund-raising for City College now the subject of an ethics investigation, some Republicans questioned whether Mr. Rangel’s public protestations about the bonuses were designed to eclipse his connections to the company over the years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/21/nyregion/21rangel.html?_r =1&ref=business

Seadog

I know. I was shocked about Frank Rich's criticism of Obama, as well. Did you know that Maureen Dowd, Paul Krugman, Peggy Noonan, and Thomas Friedman have all come out and slammed Obama in the last 3 days?

I, too, read international papers. The criticism from Europe, Russia, and Asia has been scathing. He is fast becoming a laughingstock!

Politico Buffoons
Even in a socialistic setting funds are finite and the reality is that fat-cat bureaucrats will dictate every aspects of your life with your money. Your fat-cat politicians in Washington have their own generous healthcare system with none of the snares, complications, and limitations that average citizens have to endure. They collect their full salaries for life even if they only serve one term. And they vote themselves their own raises! There is no ties to performance or the horrendous damages these thieves perpetrate (Ted Kennedy, Franks, Todd, Pelosi, etc comes to mind). Now if that doesn’t stink I don’t know what does!

First, AIG... Now, Chrysler
When the House passed its bill to tax executive retention bonuses at firms receiving TARP bailout funds, they added an odd codicil to the legislation that puzzled some observers. The legislation only applied the taxes to firms that received a minimum of $5 billion in cash infusions from Treasury, causing some people to wonder why that particular number got chosen. As it turns out, a neglected part of the Chrysler bailout loan agreement may be the answer.

On page 265, near the end of the lengthy document, the agreement stipulates:

7.17. Executive Privileges and Compensation.

The references to the Borrower in Section 7.17 of the Loan Agreement shall be deemed to be references to Chrysler LLC.

(a) Notwithstanding anything herein to the contrary, Section 7.17(a) of the Loan Agreement shall be modified to add the following at the end of subsection (v): “; provided, however, that a Relevant Company or any of its Subsidiaries may pay retention payments due in August 2009 earned on a pro rata basis through the date of this Agreement.”

How much did Chrsyler get in cash? $4 billion. Under these terms of the bill and the loan agreement, Chrysler can pay out its bonuses without incuring any extra tax penalty. It’s a very convenient coincidence, isn’t it?

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/03/22/the-chrysler-waiver-f or-executive-bonuses/


Don't be distracted again. Last week, we watched the drama queens in Washington successfully deflect attention from the MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF THE WEEK, i.e., the incredibly risky move taken by the Federal Reserve. Tomorrow, Geithner is supposed to unveil his abyssmal bank stabilization plan, which has already been panned by ultra-liberal economist, Paul Krugman, and the international financial news services. Keep your eye on the real ball.

Debra
You write this article while having a 401k. This tells me that you are not a very smart person. It also tells me that you don't understand how the American economy is set-up. If you made an effort to assist the American people by informing them on way to exploit this crisis. Then you might have some value. Reporters of today,are performers in the "Theater of the Obvious". Where is Walter Lippman when you need him. Mediocre reporters earning big bucks are just like the crooks on Wall Street. Both promise more than they could ever deliver. I am sorry about your 401k but you are "Stupid"?

"praying for the end of time"
"Listen, I'll take responsibility; I'm the president."
Taking responsibility for doing something stupid, immoral, illegal or deceitful doesn't make it any less stupid, immoral, ilegal or deceitful. OTS, is Pres'ent Obammi going to be on the cover of every magazine from now until the end of time? If so, to quote Meatloaf, "so now I'm praying for the end of time, to hurry up and arrive. If I have to take another minute of you, I don't think that I can really survive." When he makes the cover of O, I suggest we all repent because the second coming will then be upon us.

POLITICIANS ARE LIKE DIAPERS
MARK TWAIN HAD IT RIGHT ABOUT DIAPERS
There is no value in career politicians.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/03/politicians-are -to-often-like-diapers.html

I've Never Seen a Snake Run
Snakes don't run; snakes slither. So in a town full of snakes, Obama slithers the fastest.

What do you have against snakes, anyway?


John
Snakes run all the time. They run for congress, they run for mayor, they run for.......

Politicians
like Dodd, Rangel, Kennedy, Hastings are elected by greedy, lazy, envious losers who don't mind having crooked representatives stealing the country blind if they can get a little piece of the action. If Dodd is re-elected, there is little hope for us. The bright side of this whole mess is it looks to be getting so bad even the most uninterested PC moonbat will have to take notice. My wife is my outrage gauge. She has no idea what is going on yet, and is still in Give Obama a chance mode. When she becomes disgusted, i'll know the crud is finally getting to Jane and Joe Six-pack.

I Am Stupid!!
I was really enjoying this article until you wrote the following,"most galling of all, receipients include geniuses from the department that tanked AIG with bad paper..."??

Those geniuses's worked for AIG and were doing the work AIG told them and paid them to do. Is it the geniuses's fault if AIG (CEO)made a bad investment decision??? I don't remember hearing about people like you crying when those bad investments were making AIG a big profit...I guess for you those geniuses would have been dumb Jack Asses then, when the stock was at a $100 or more...for an example. If I am stupid so is the great U.S.Senator Chris Dodd and the Obama Administration....they agreed with me!!

Semper Fi One


I guess I must be stupid....
In the stim-u-@ss package (that no one bother to read) you gave them money to pay bonuses. Now you scream that is not right?

Why does the congress say we screwed up?

This feigned outrage has...
caused the House to pass an unconstitutional bill, without even a second thought. Woe to all those representatives who voted for this bill. Don't they realize they have a duty to uphold the constitution?

Also, let's examine the "moral outrage" here. Who says that the people receiving these bonuses are not entitled to them? After all, no one in Congress (viz. Rep. Frank) even knows who they are or what their contribution to AIG's position was. Moral judgments ought to be based on facts, ya think?

Because the public, led by Congress, does not understand the complexities of AIG's position, they go to the easy "bad guy, good guy" moral assessment of the situation. What a poor substitute for a critical examination of the circumstance.

Finally, the bonuses represesnt 0.1% of the taxpayer purchases of AIG securities. How 'bout having the public concentrate on the bigger picture - i.e. the $160B that Congress gave to AIG?
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