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Monday, December 15, 2008
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
Free the California 52,000?
by Debra J. Saunders
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A panel of three federal judges is holding a trial to determine whether to free 52,000 of California's 172,000 prison inmates to alleviate overcrowding. You might be asking yourself: Who elected these guys to run California?

One of the three judges, U.S. District Judge Thelton Henderson, determined in 2005 that California's prison health care system is so bad that it's unconstitutional. He put the system in receivership and appointed law professor Clark Kelso to oversee prison health care.

Now Kelso is demanding $8 billion to renovate the system -- even though the state is spending about $14,000 on health care per inmate, according to the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. (California's total health care spending was $169 billion in 2006, the California Medical Association's Ned Wigglesworth told me, which divided by 37 million comes to about $4,600 per head -- or a third of what is spent on the incarcerated.)

Here's the unfunny funny part: Criminal Justice Legal Foundation President Michael Rushford recently figured out that inmates live longer on the inside than on the outside, and they live longer on the inside than outsiders live. He found a study, "Release from Prison -- A High Risk of Death for Former Inmates," published last year in the New England Journal of Medicine, which shows that the mortality rate for Washington state inmates spiked more than 1,200 percent in the first two weeks after their release, and averaged 386 percent higher than inmates in prison during the two years after release.

The study also found that Washington inmates have a lower mortality rate than the general population. In that Washington state inmates have a mortality rate very close to the California rate, Rushford figured that the judges should beware that by releasing 52,000 prisoners, more inmates will die. As the New England Journal study noted, "the risk of death was sharply higher after release than during incarceration." The leading cause of death for released inmates was drug overdose, followed by cardiovascular disease, homicide, suicide, cancer and motor vehicle accidents.

Apparently prison -- even prisons with shabby health facilities -- provides a healthier environment than what most criminals are used to. Behind bars, there are fewer ways to be self-destructive -- and there's health care.

I do not intend to make light of any substandard medical care in California prisons. Henderson found California penal health care to be so "fraught with medical neglect and malfeasance" as to be unconstitutional. He cited filthy conditions and poor hygiene practices -- including a San Quentin dentist "who neither washed his hands nor changed his gloves after treating patients into whose mouths he had placed his hands." Ugh. (If this were a "Law & Order" episode, prosecutors would have charged the dentist with a crime -- and rightly so.)

The good news is that after Henderson stepped in, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger worked to improve the prison health care system and poured money into the effort, with results to show for it. A 2007 analysis of prison deaths for Kelso reported that a number of health workers left the system, while state prisons hired board-certified professionals.

The number of inmate deaths has fallen dramatically, from 124 in the first quarter of 2006 to 87 in the second quarter of 2008. The analysis found three "preventable" deaths in California prisons, one for an inmate who ingested razor blades.

These improvements are not good enough for Kelso. As the Sacramento Bee reported earlier this year, Kelso had been working on a plan for health care facilities with art therapists, music therapists and beauticians -- at an annual cost of $230,000 per inmate, according to a corrections agency draft.

Other problems, the Bee noted, were plans to build facilities with "proximity to urban areas, in several cases, backing up to neighboring homes and schools," in a "mall-based environment" with unlocked rooms that would allow male and female inmates to mix.

Does Kelso understand that 47 percent of the California prison population are repeat violent offenders, 33 percent are repeat offenders and many of the rest are first-time felons who committed serious crimes against people, like rape and murder? Do the three judges? As the Associated Press reported, one of the three, U.S. District Judge Lawrence Karlton of Sacramento, asked recently, "In the long run, does it make any difference to public safety if we release them 60 days earlier?"

Corrections spokesman Seth Unger explained what that difference would be: "Releasing 50,000 inmates would be the equivalent of emptying 10 prisons onto the streets." Maybe Karlton doesn't worry about what the effect on the general public might be. But now we know, more prisoners may die.

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Send the illegals HOME!
Sending the illegals home would make the prisons less crowded and even close some....But good luck getting that MORON 'AHHHNOLD' to do it...He is a Liberal LOON like his family (Kennedy)....He phonied up his credentials to gainm office and then began destroying the state to the tune of 16 Billion doallars. California's golden age is a distant memory never to be resurrected.....Look for a new capitol of Tijuana to be named soon!

Free the California 52,000?
California is already a lost cause. I would have no problems with CA releasing 52,000 felons IF they could guarantee that they remain within the state borders where they can murder, steal, and rape at will. The spill-over of this criminal element to other states is the problem and why I would resist having this vermin released.

Elected the judge? Here Come the Judge!
If we keep allowing legislation from the bench, we truly are going to be bankrupt. These judges have no fiduciary responsibility to the public, yet they give it to themselves as long as they need it to run up the bills for taxpayers. Arizona is deep in debt ($Billions$) because a federal judge said Arizona wasn't spending enough to medicate or educate the children of illegal aliens who still don't speak English and still aren't even trying to become American citizens. Legislators who sit by uselessly while their power is being confiscated by these judges are to blame. Stop electing useless jerks to office before the judges run the country and we don't need elections. Simple, no?

Judge appoints Lawyer to manage Healthca

So the Judge appoints a Lawyer to manage Healthcare in the Prisons. Why not a healthcare professional? Answer. Because the judge is a lawyer looking for ways to find full employment for members of his/her profession.

This is just another example of a "make work" program for Lawyers. Be good to the lawyers and if and when you come up for another Federal Appointment, the Bar Association will certify you as qualified. Seeking campaign donations for an elected office? Create "make work" programs for lawyers and you'll get all the donations you need.

This is government corruption at its worse.

There are
in this line of posts so many good ideas that should be carried out. Too bad that the pols who should do it have other plans that will only make things worse.

I See No Mention...
...of a sorting of non-violent versus violent criminals, nor of illegal aliens (both violent and non-violent), who may potentially be released. Surely, there are some criteria for who's being released. What are those criteria? I would have expected more from Ms. Saunders.

I echo the earlier comments of Akagi: releasing the non-violent drug offenders would make room for the violent criminals. We've been fighting the war on drugs for over a century now and have been almost as successful at it as the war on poverty. We still have drug abusers and we still have the poor. In many cases there's overlap. We have spent trillions on these problems, and still they persist. I think it's well beyond the time to admit that these are lost causes and stop wasting our tax dollars trying to re-engineer human nature.

Second, California's incarcerated illegal aliens should be deported. One can buy a lot of bus tickets for $14,000. Then California needs to close their southern border. Tight.

Um...
The election of judges is a red herring.
We Californians have upped the ante on criminals with mandated sentences, but we have not voted to tax ourselves to build more prisons to house miscreants. Push has come to shove: do we release short timers or do we pay for more prisons?
Saunders is being disingenuous.

WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER
just to send them to DC or Chicago, so they could be among friends?
Do the judges in this article throw their excess garbage on the streets of California when their trash cans overflow?
We may all be imprisoned by barrys 'universal' health care and it will not be as comprehensive or 'healthy' as our Countrys inmates are currently enjoying.

Sorry 7 sticks
I am sorry for yur loss. I have a challenge and a solution excercise for you, though. Go visit a nursing home, or even a hospital ward for a while. I mean spend some time there. You'll see about treatment, and how it is justified and when. (not that it is that bad) I wager some prisoners receive better. In fact I know it. I've seen them get transported with guards$$ to the dentist, one which I know few people could afford -- if not the best around. See how many patients get the same.

Why not
"I do not intend to make light of any substandard medical care in California prisons. "

But why not?- They seem to be making a mockery of justice. And making light of reasons for their incarceration.

Prison Helthcare Killed My Mother
My mother was forced to spend ten months in Chaochilla State prison for possesing a measly seven dollars worth of crack cocaine, and it happened just before Porposition 36 was passed. I am convinced if people like my mother were not sent to jail and were given drug treatment instead, she'd still be alive. She was not living in any lap of luxury. She was a heart patient who was mistreated by the system and wasn't provided the adequate healthcare she needed. She needed methadone to keep her drug addiction under control, and she couldn't afford it. Or rather, the prison wouldn't afford it for her. When she came out after ten months, she looked like she aged ten YEARS! My father and I are convinced that it was the corruption of the prison system that ultimately caused my mother to die from congenital heart failure. She'd still be alive if it weren't for the scummy lobbyists of the California prison guard unions and their self-serving interests.

Here is where I am on this: If the mortality rate of inmates is higher inside than outside prison, then how come my mother is dead? How come being in prison worsened her than helping her? Where is the outrage?

If we had more prosperity...
Perhaps we wouldn't have so many criminals...

The FairTax would deliver on the prosperity side by making the USA a tax haven which would attract investment, jobs, opportunity, and prosperity back to our lands.

Please see http://www.fairtax.org or google "FairTax" for more info.

Peace,

YK

Robert of La
60% are illegals if i recall right with out looking.

I do have the info provided by L. A. Times in e-mail that was sent to me. I could send to someone if..........

Scotch Indian Reply#11
"victims of racist opprestion"THATS FUNNY, HEHEHE.What i want to know is?How many illegals are in that 172,000.Maybe the Govenator could ferlow those.Send them to an army base for deportation.That might help.

Duncan Hunter for govenor of California.

ROB

Some Questions
Gee, haven't stupid, unenlightened, non-progressive, un-cool conservatives been warning of the tremendous burdens of illegal aliens and the crimes they commit?

And what about this rich cultural diversity thing we've got going there in the land of fruits and nuts? How's that working out, dude?

How come we don't hear ominous reports of social chaos and the breakdown of civil authority in Utah?


With all the
facilities they have in prisons nowdays, it would seem to me that some of those released might decide to kill or rape someone and be sent back just to improve their standard of living.

Bring them to Guantonemo!
They will be so surprised by the luxury that they will want to make it their permanent home.

Judges are not Gods, etc. ....
Judges are not Gods. They not the rulers of this country and state, or the universe for that mannter, either. I say the elected California goverment should tell them to take a long walk on a short pier! What the heck are they going to do, yell & screem & issue multiple legal documents, which we can also ignore? Can't you just see the hiss-fits they pitch. The may get so angry they pee on themselves! I'd like to see that! Ha!

SCOTCH INDAIN
YOU AND JUDGES KEEP MAKIN THOSE WISE DECISIONS

release prisoners
PUT THEM ALL ON A HUGE SHIP ALONG WITH THE JUDGE,PARK THEM OFF THE COAST OF CUBA.TELL CASTRO WE'RE SENDING HIM A PRESENT.

Let them out!
What an eye opener! I think we should let them out, and supply them with pure drugs and give them all rides to the doorstep of whomever they owe money, or a rival gang. That would serve to put them out of our mysery, and placate liberals who think everyone should roam free.

Thanks Scotch Indian
I am glad that people in CA still have a sense of humor, despite the desperate straits CA and many states (like mine, NJ) are in due to the wise and caring social strata of federal judges, mostly Dem./lib., whose entire lives are dedicated to upholding the Constitution (where is healthcare for prisoners enumerated in the Const?) and promoting the general welfare, particularly the welfare of the downtrodden and oppressed who are suffering from social injustice and will now be saved by Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, assisted valiantly by Dodd, Frank, Schumer, and Rangel--the one who neglected to pay his own taxes, a great detriment and impediment to instituting social justice for all.
And Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night.

You right wing nut jobs ....
Obviously you right wing nuts don't get it.

First of all, these judges are very wise and smart, certainly smarter than you. They will make the best possible decisions.

Second, and building on point one, we all know that most prisoners are either non violent drug users, or victims of racist oppression. Angela Davis tells us so!!! In either case, we all gain by letting them loose. Some right wing nuts may worry about those "prisoners" who are victims of racist oppression. However, now that Obama is President, these people will realize that America has changed, and every thing is OK. In fact, if you don't want to be shot, held up or burglarized, keep your Obama/Biden stickers with you all the time.

Think of it this way ... 52,000 new opportunities to meet new people, make new freinds!!!!

Gotta go ... I hear someone breaking down my back door.

Good Idea Rocketman.....
"I suggest they put them up on Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer's front lawns--or at the ACLU office."

I second that.....


BRING IT ON!
Release the 52,000 cons at the start of the next Frisco Folsom Street Parade and other "events". Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Phoenix will set up a lot of court approved TENT CITIES for them--I suggest they put them up on Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer's front lawns--or at the ACLU office.

Rocketman

The liberal mantra
"Release the murderers and murder the innocent"
Better get use to it USA, because these California cookoos weren't happy letting their own state go broke. They now want the rest of us to go down the same tubes.

If one innocent person dies by the hand
of an early released prisoner....................................... then these nutcase judges should be found guilty of conspiracy to commit murder.

It's Time.
1. To tell the fed where to get off.
2. To put judges on trial for their violations of State's rights.
3. To put these same judges against the wall for being traitors to the Constitution they have sworn to uphold.

If
The country and states wasn't so stupid to put non-violent drug offenders in prison, you'd not have to worry about room at the inn.

Here's an idea

Why don't we out-source our prison system to India or Turkey?

Send over all our felons with sentences greater than two years, along with a couple hundred bucks a month. This would save the tax payers billions of dollars and probably reduce the rate of recidivism.

Unbelieveable
So, three Federal judges decide they can overthrow the elected executives of a state because the prison conditions are "unconstitutional". My copy of the Constitution must have been heavily edited as I can find no discussion of just what a prison is supposed to be like. So long as the enumerated rights of the Constitution are observed by the authorities, all that is really needed is basic humane treatment.

On top of this, these same three "federal gods" are demanding that the state spend money to provide specific luxuries to the inmates of these STATE prisons. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I also thought it was up to legislatures to decide on money matters, in cooperation with the executive.

Having no personal experience with prison, I cannot address just how bad the Calif. prisons are. I think I can guess, though, that most of the problems in most prisons are due to the behavior of the inmates.

It is time and past time for some state governors and legislatures to invoke the 10th Amendment and tell these types of federal buttinskis to take a hike.

Inmates running the asylum
“… equivalent of emptying 10 prisons onto the streets."

What always puzzles me in so many of these mass early release programs is that there seems to be no sane discrimination between different types of criminals. You will hear about some armed robber, attempted multiple-murderer, stalker of kindergarten children and torturer of small flightless birds being merrily set free. If you were running a prison system, wouldn’t the logical thing be to release people--if you were ordered to do so--who pose the least threat to the innocent?

Thomas Andres
Sierra foothills
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