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Thursday, September 18, 2008
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Hyperbole Market -- It's the Worst
by Debra J. Saunders
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John McCain was right when he said Monday that despite the bad news about Lehman Brothers filing for bankruptcy and AIG trolling for help from Uncle Sam, "the fundamentals of our economy are strong." As politicians running for the White House learn, honesty is a commodity best used sparingly on the campaign trail. Voters apparently believe that America is in a terrible recession -- even though the gross domestic product grew at an annual rate of 3.3 percent last quarter and grew by some .09 percent in 2008's first quarter. When the public is in full panic mode, McCain could take a lesson from Barack Obama, who is running ahead of the stampede.

On the campaign trail Wednesday, Obama bemoaned "the most serious financial crisis in generations." He said the exact same words the day before. You can tell it's the most serious financial crisis in generations because the unemployment rate is 6.1 percent -- which, The Chronicle reports, represents a "five-year high." When the unemployment rate was 5.7 percent in July, that was a "four-year high." The Associated Press reports that the number of troubled banks is also at a "five-year high." Five-year highs? These are the statistics that herald the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression?

Remember last month when oil, having hit the price of $145 per barrel, was the issue on which the election would hinge? Forget it. Oil is now selling at below $100 per barrel, but that bit of good news is buried in the deluge of doom-and-gloom reports.

"The most serious financial crisis in generations?"

Donald Luskin, a chief investment officer with the Menlo Park investment research firm TrendMacrolytics and an economic adviser to McCain -- who tells me he has never talked to McCain -- remarked that if Obama "had a little bit more experience," he would "put these things in more context." Luskin has lived through five or six recessions, and "this ain't one."

It isn't a recession because the U.S. economy has grown in both of the last two quarters. Read: It is not receding.

And while Luskin sees the unemployment rate as "a little high," it is "not as high as it typically is in a recession." Yes, Luskin is concerned about inflation, now at 5.4 percent. The drop in oil prices may help.

Of course, it should be of concern to taxpayers that Uncle Sam has had to bail out AIG with an $85 billion loan, to shore up mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and to facilitate JPMorgan's purchase of Bear Stearns to the tune of $30 billion. Also, the drop in home prices and rise in foreclosures -- thanks to rapacious lending practices -- has hit many families in their biggest asset.

Let me add, life's no picnic when you work in the shrinking newspaper industry.

The fact that the economy has grown despite all of the above -- and 9/11 and an unrelenting Democratic campaign to talk this economy down -- is proof that the fundamentals of the American economy are strong.

Luskin questioned what has happened to politics, when a candidate "must pretend this is a recession or you're seen as hard-hearted." And: "What does it say when we can't be nuanced? And we can't say, 'Look, we're in a little bit of a slowdown, but the fundamentals are strong'?"

The answer, of course, is that Democrats can't win without trashing the economy. As Luskin pointed out in a piece in Sunday's Washington Post, in Obama's famed anti-Iraq war speech back in 2002, the then-Illinois state senator suggested the war was waged "to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression."

In fact, the stock market had four bigger one-month drops since the Great Depression, but facts don't matter. The winning candidate in 2008 may well be the man who can say the worst things about the American economy. That's how he shows he really cares.

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Damned Lies...and Statistics
Manipulate the unemployment statistics any way you wish. The unemployed don't take comfort in anyone's finessed percentages. The equation is this: one unemployed person = one angry voter wanting change = vote for Obama. Votes count, not jim-jammed percentages or anyone's "ivory tower" view of the economy. either. The real "percentage" will surface on election day. Also, take a look at George Will's column today,(Tuesday, Sept. 23) and see a reasoned opinion from one of your own about why McCain's unfit for office, (concluding with a thought akin to Ron White's truism, "You can fix ugly,(inexperience), but you can't fix stupid!"

Don Juan said...
"The average man is in a personal depression, while the princes of the Second Gilded Age have to wait for their Ferraris. If you ask the question Reagan made famous, the answer is a resounding one."

Wow! I guess I'm above average, as I'm not in a personal depression, or even a personal recession. In fact, I'll make more money this year than I ever have before. Not quite enough to buy a Ferrari, though. Dangit!

How many other "average men" are out there who will answer this idiot with some truth?

Obama Unqualified
UNQUALIFIED

Senator Obama very clearly removed himself from serious Presidential consideration during the September 11 Forum on Service. When asked about small town mayors he indicated that they had significant responsibilities and challenges and accomplishments and that many were in fact in attendance at his convention. He immediately followed that up with a statement indicating that all they do in the Senate is to sit around and YAK.

Given that his time as a community organizer and his limited if any accomplishments in that position have been evidenced, then his only qualification is his time in a Senate. As his only qualification seems to be to be able to sit around and YAK, then millions of Americans who actually have firm responsibilities and documented accomplishments are eminently more qualified than Senator Obama to assume the position of President. He should immediately remove himself from consideration for the good of the country and allow the Democrats to nominate a qualified candidate, if one exists.

Don Juan
Or possibly people have become so used to good economic times that they have forgotten what bad times are actually like.

I remember the Carter years. Simultaneous double-digit inflation, interest rates, and unemployment. What we have today is nothing in comparison, no thanks to the irresponsible fear-mongering your party is doing.

Jack
"DId you see the obama 2 minute ad. In it he offers sensible and realistic plans without hyperbole to improve the economy."

What he offers is ridiculous on its surface to anyone with a smattering of understanding of economics.

- Going to raise taxes on only those making over 250K.
- Going to give middle class tax cut.
- Going to fund a plethora of new social programs listed in his acceptance speech.
- Going to balance the budget.

Only tax the rich is the big lie. The rich make lots of money, but there are very few of them. The money in our economy is in the middle class. Also, taxing the rich is likely to cause overall revenue to decline, even if it doesn't throw us into a recession. Just as WJC before him, Barack has no intention of keeping the promise of only taxing the rich. Or, just as WJC before him, once in office he will redefine the rich to include the middle class.

Barack Obama cannot possibly keep all the promises above. Which ones is he lying about?

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Jack
"The reason republicans are lying about it is that they have no clue how to fix the problem that they helped create,"

Well isn't this interesting. After checking out your location and seeing it is CA I now understand the problem. I see your posts and I just wonder how you can look yourself in the mirror. It is true that many people just buy the BS dished out by the Dems but the housing/banking debacle is quite easily traced. The loosening of the rules under the Clinton administration are known. The enormous wealth gained by the Dems in Congress heading the committees of oversight is revealed. The campaign dollars that Obama and friends in Congress (Obama was paid most of any Senator for time in office) is revealed. Another fact that is known is that John McCain initiated legislation to protect Americans from the meltdown we've just experienced BUT the Dems fought it and said NO in 2006!!!

No one with a brain could possibly believe the proposed tax increases across the board will help Americans or this country. No, there must be some other reason you post your ridiculous notions.

------------
note to The Great Satan, "We can use Pelosi and Reid as drill bits; their heads are dense enough. "

you are being too kind!!!!

IIn the Great Depression in 1933,
there was 33% unemployment, one in three. Even in 1938, five years after FDR closed the banks, started a raft of socialist programs like Soc. Sec., and won two terms, the unemployment was STILL 14%. If we had 14% unemployment, we'd have rioting in the streets. What cured the Great Dep. was WW II.

JFK had his Black Monday, Carter had the Carter ec. (recession w/high interest, high unemployment, and high interest, and I saw both Chrysler crash and NYC on the brink of insolvency), Reagan had the crash of 87, Clinton had the dot-com collapse ($15 trillion in paper equity disappeared in 2 years), and Bush had both the Clinton crash and 911.

But Bush gave the ec. 5 yrs. of boom with the lowest recorded unemploy ever, the highest home owner 70%, and virtually 0 inflation. The entire time the *news* badmouthed the ec. and Bush and now has no superlatives left for this current crises.

Europe regularly runs 10-15% unemploy. Ger. tolerates very high unemployment yearly that the US would think was the Grt. Dep.

The worst thing is for the gov't to bail out businesses that made bad decisions, followed bad business practices, and deserve a bad end. Cash infusions of dying businesses (with my taxes) might save them temporarily, but if their old patterns hold, the bail outs just prolong the pain and make everyone hurt.


........
If this is what it was like during The Great Depression then it was overrated. The market has been volatile and recent developments have caused some severe plunges, but as today has shown we can have a quick rebound. This is a byproduct of a fundamentally strong economy [possible govt intervention -RTC- noted for the rebound]. Of course there need to be some adjustments but overall things could be far, far worse. Instead of a 20% loss we could have had a 60% loss, at which point people would be diving out of windows.

Trump was correct in his comment today when he said we should weather the storm and not bail ship. I completely agree. Once the market recovers another 500 points, which should happen in short order, there will be more needed liquidity. Now there’s paralysis.

In the meantime we need to start tapping our domestic energy resources. We can use Pelosi and Reid as drill bits; their heads are dense enough.

Pandering
Ajb,

Its called pandering and trying to be populist. McCain is saying its not your fault you hard workers of america - at least that is what he changed it to after he basically said everything is ok, before the markets crashed that is.

I know its hard but please actually listen to what Obama and the democrats are saying and compare it to McCain .

Keep you mind open.

Fundamentally bad
Mariner I agree. "Pretty hard to have a serious debate about something your opponents are lying through their eye teeth about."

So why are republicans lying about this?

DId you see the obama 2 minute ad. In it he offers sensible and realistic plans without hyperbole to improve the economy. Which obviously needs improving after the current administrations policies have failed.
Even McCain admits that. But the offers the same "solutions"

The reason republicans are lying about it is that they have no clue how to fix the problem that they helped create, so they lie and stick their heads in the sand and hope that no one will notice.

important stuff
Pretty hard to have a serious debate about something your opponents are lying through their eye teeth about and the average attention span of the intended audience is about how long it takes to flip between Wheel of Fortune and Dancing with the Stars.

From the article:
"Donald Luskin...remarked that if Obama "had a little bit more experience," he would "put these things in more context."

That statement pre-supposes Obama actually wants to tell the truth, rather than what he is doing, intentionally misrepresenting the news to look as bad as possible for political gain.

Mr. Obama, leaders should be calming people down at a time like this, not trying to cause a panic to make yourself look good.


Back to the Important Republic...
talking points...lipstick... pit bulls ... bortions... sex ed for pre schoolers

Obama Promises
Obama is making promises on every campaign stop that he will cut taxes on 95% of the American workers, balance the budget, no taxes on people who earn less than $250 thousand a year and increase government spending during his tour as president. Problem is, the TCP, Tax Policy Center says, “Obama will need to raise taxes 61% on those earning over $62,000 if he expects to balance the budget while keeping his promise to increase spending.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po7J0f5TMrQ

Now we will get into some real money that Obama must find if he is elected. According to the TPC, Obama’s tax plan “would substantially increase the deficit compared with current law and would add nearly $3.3 trillion to the national debt over ten years.” http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/ccoffey_0917/

Obama will tax the wealthiest to the poorest in order to finance his socialist agenda. Raising taxes and blatant socialism is Obama’s “change”. Obama was tutored by socialists in college. Obama says, "People [black] aren't looking for charity. We talk about welfare and we talk about poverty, but what people really want is fairness. They want people paying their fair share of taxes. They want that money allocated fairly."
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/ckincaid/2008/ck_02191.sh tml

You gotta read this article by Michael Medved who wrote about Obama's goat herder daddy and food stamp mama. http://townhall.com/

Fundamentals of the economy
When I first heard McCain saying how he thought the fundamentals of the economy were strong, I got a picture of a sailing ship hitting some wind and turbulence. It's going to get rocked around quite a bit, but if it's a well-built ship, it will eventually get through, but a poorly-built ship will sink. To me, that's what the "fundamentals" of the economy are all about. McCain thinks we're on a well-built ship. Obama seems to think that the existence of turbulence is by itself proof that the ship is no good---"What's more fundamental than having a job?"---as if "good economy" means that no one is in any pain. I suppose he thinks the solution is to scrap all our ships and follow his leadership as he walks on water....

Donald Luskin is obviously not listening
to CNN who said yesterday we were in a recession and wondered if we were also in a depression.

The people believe the economy is bad because the press keeps telling them it is bad.

and BTW;

O'Bambi is a liar, there was a 50% default rate on housing mortgages in the depression.
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