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Friday, September 05, 2008
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Old John McCain
by Debra J. Saunders
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ST. PAUL -- "I miss the old John McCain." It's a refrain I hear on a regular basis, most often from people who are Barack Obama voters no matter what. They yearn for the man who hated the same people that they hate -- or so they believed, when in 2000 he called Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "agents of intolerance."

That is, they yearn for a man who could not win.

"He is the same guy he has always been, wrestling with all the things he does trying to be the guy he believes he has to be," McCain speechwriter Mark Salter told the New York Times. "But we are not just going to say, 'O.K., we'll just lose -- we will lose graciously -- maybe everybody will remember him fondly.'"

True, the McCain who won the GOP primary has learned how to court religious conservatives. When Barack Obama courts religious voters, pundits praise him for boldly going where few Democrats have gone before. Yet, when McCain courts these voters, the pundits are disappointed that he has caved into his party's base.

But it is Obama, not McCain, who is in lockstep with his party's base. And with big-spending Democrats controlling the House and Senate, that's a scary prospect.

McCain has bucked his party's base: on immigration as recently as last year; on global warming; on campaign-finance reform.

Republicans nominated him even though they know that, if elected, he will drive them insane. He'll be too chummy with Democrats. They also know that, unlike the ousted GOP congressional leadership, he will fight pork-barrel spending. Most important, they trust that he'll do what must be done in Iraq and Afghanistan -- no matter what the polls say.

The Grand Old Party seems to be on the move. Wednesday night, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who moved from the center to the right before the 2008 GOP primary, threw red meat to the base. Delegates applauded Romney -- but not with the enthusiasm with which they greeted the pro-choice former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani and former Arkansas governor, the down-home Mike Huckabee. Forget the country club; the new wave in party is Sam's Club Republicans, says Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

Yes, the old John McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts. Now he pledges to keep them, in part because ending those cuts could do real damage to the American economy.

I get that. But I am disappointed in his proposals for a summer gas-tax holiday and to double the child tax-exemption to $7,000 -- even though the federal deficit is expected to reach $482 billion next year.

America got a peek at the fiscally conservative McCain in July, when, in discussing Social Security reform, he told ABC's George Stephanopoulos that he was "a supporter of sitting down together and putting everything on the table" -- presumably even a tax increase. After tax foes pounced, Camp McCain took a tax increase off the table.

This is a shame. No one wants to pay higher taxes, but you won't see Social Security reform without a package that includes both higher taxes and fewer benefits. McCain knows that.

Thursday night McCain pledged to "stop leaving our country's problems for some unluckier generation to fix." On that score, his speech was thin, and the campaign theme, "country first," rang hollow.

McCain told the crowd "to serve a cause greater than yourself." But without giving up the GOP tax cuts?

OK, on the stump he is no maverick.

But you've also seen what Fred Thompson called McCain's mixture of "rebellion and honor," when the maverick carried his own luggage on the campaign trail after the experts pronounced his campaign over. You saw it Thursday night, when he faulted both parties for overly large government.

As for the term "maverick," McCain noted, "What it really means is, I understand who I work for."

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Obama stated the 'Surge' has worked, but Obama said when he voted against the surge things were different because the 'surge' hadn't started yet so Obama was right then and right now.

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Insiders say this will also help to stop the 'vicious rumors' circulated by the Republicans that Obama changes positions for political expediency.

When Obama issues a 'Current Truth', every website and computer will be updated so when the Conservatives say Obama 'Has Waffled' you can point to the 'Obama Current Truth' and say that is what Obama has been saying all along.

Obama for Obama 08

THAT'S JOHN MCCAIN
Just after I thought conservatives had driven him back to the right, parts of his speech sent cringes up my spine. Some of the programs he has decided to champion are typical of one's I expect liberals to promise. Since unemployment is up, how about championing policies to bring back more manufacturing jobs and quit importing so much "stuff". Manufacturing jobs lost to other countries (esp China) provide paychecks which would've required social security contributions. Promising everything to everyone will drive conservatives nuts, but alas, perhaps Palin can be a "right" influence for him.

Wait and see
with McCain....It will be interesting to see if he goes with this same old illegal alien amnesty if he's elected......and I'm reallllllcurious to see how he thinks he can change Washington.....This should be real interesting if he wins.

Give me the REAL old John McCain
The one from the 1960s.

The one who would never knuckle under to Communists.

The one who understood that even speaking civilly to Socialists ("reaching across the aisle") is joining hands with evil.

The one who refused, even under torture, to let Marxist values replace his vision of American values under God.

Give me THAT John McCain.

Has anyone seen him lately?

"McCain bucked his party's base..."

And that's something to BRAG about?


"Republicans nominated him even though..."

No, also wrong, as McCain wasn't nominated by Republicans; open and winner-take-all primaries were designed to minimize the influence of conservatives, and threw the system open to "independants" and other outsiders to actually make the selection.


You're Wrong Debra
The $ that goes into the ss piggy bank gets xferred to the general tax fund after current benefits are paid. The feds leave an i.o.u. in the piggy bank that has to paid by future tax payers when these notes become due. If this isn't money laundering - what is it? They disguise the xfer with treasury notes - they create and buy their own note. It's not illegal because the guys that write the laws are the ones operating the system.

And we should pay more taxes to make up for what is being stolen? You gotta be kidding.

Just wondering
I was just wondering if
gettingoldernwiser only buys things that are made and assembled in the United States. To me, if you want to complain about our jobs going over seas, then you ought to be willing to do something about it. Personally, I only buy things that are made, start to finish, in the USA. I feel that it is my duty and I think that if eceryone did that, then some of these jobs would come back or they would go out of business in the USA. But, I am only 24 and I am sure that I am just too young to understand what I am talking about.
I would also like to say that I am a proud conservative, that being said, I am still a human being with my own thoughts and feelings and I don't think that to be a good conservative, you have to believe what the majority of conservatives believe. I don't think that it is a bad thing to have a president that is closer to the middle than to the far right.

Wrong Debra
I'm one of those left scratching my head over the Republican 8-year flip-flop.

"They yearn for the man who hated the same people that they hate -- or so they believed, when in 2000 he called Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson "agents of intolerance.""

Yes we do. And the guy that was a "maverick" in 2000 would have had my vote in 2000 and 2004 along with millions of other moderate conservatives in this great country. The "Republican't" meltdown brought on by Tom Delay and Karl Rove would never have happened if the millions of people like me hadn't been disgusted by Rove's tactics and McCain's submission to Bush, Cheney and the extremely cynical extreme right wing of the republican party during the Republican primary of 2000.

This year I'd probably be voting for candidate Jeb Bush.

But back to reality...
Instead, in 2000, McCain was portrayed by his *fellow Republicans* as a "Loose Cannon" with a "terrible hair-trigger temper (whispered) probably brought on by the torture in Vietnam". They said ("they" were Karl Rove and Ralph Reed) he had a out of wedlock black baby. He was an adulterer. And he certainly wasn't the kind of guy we wanted with his finger on the nuclear button.

Now after 8 years of what historians will regard as "W - The Worst President in American History!" McCain is all-of-a-sudden a Maverick again, only this time, he's a "good maverick". The kind of guy who can get things done to put America first and change the way things run in Washington.

So I sit and scratch my head and wonder how you all can be fooled again. Because this is NOT the old John McCain.

And millions of moderate conservatives like me will be voting for Barack (yes, his middle name is Hussein... big deal.) Obama.



BK
Nobody's seen THAT John McCain for the same reason that we've not seen McCarthy either.

Reaching across the aisle (cooperating with your fellow elected officials to effect or try to effect a good life for Americans be they "God fearing" or not.) is something that grown-ups do.

You may be old and bitter and bigoted, but there's no reason you can't grow up and learn to get along with others!

Those "socialists" you refer to live here, work here, pay taxes here and die here just like you do. As a matter of fact you may be cashing checks backed by their money! Now go back to your nap and don't interrupt the grown-ups.

No 5 stars this time
Republicans nominated him even though they know that, if elected, he will drive them insane.
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McLame got 30% of the vote through arcane Republican rules that was enough to "win". 70% voted against him.

No Mclame has NOT changed his ways except that he made Palin available for 2012.

Controlled by political consultants
McCain is not the right guy for this election he flip/flops on everything. Ronald Reagan never liked McCain after he abandoned his first wife for Cindy and I totally agree with Reagan, the best president we have had in the last 50 years.

“Country first, party second” what kind of leadership is that? A leader does not abandon his troop in battle. We need seats in the house and senate as well McCain has decided to run against the Republicans for his own glory.

John Kerry ditched his first wife and kids for a rich woman and McCain is the same. McCain will have the same political fate as Kerry.




I guess fabius is a shrink
with his observation that Mccain "obviously exhibits mental trauma" etc etc , what BS!

Why not examine bambi then for his delusions? he is "obviously" nuts if he believes he is so omnipotent.

You libs have absolutely no rational reason to vote for bambi, so you have to resort to stupid childish ad-hominems against McCain and Palin.

I am still waiting for one of you to post a few genuine reasons to vote for him knowing he will raise your taxes and surrender your country, his own words and associations condemn him.

No true American who values the sacrifices that were made by those who came before us, could ever even consider this clown for POTUS, no less support him and his ideology.

I say what John Adams said to the tories..go from this land and let us forget that you were our countrymen.

One term McCain then 2Palin and 2Jindal!
THEN we can save what the libs have left of OUR country that WE grew up in that WE believed in and want OUR kids to inherit!!!!!!!!!

GO 'Cuda!!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member

Wes
So--vote for Obama. That makes a great deal of sense, if you are, in fact, conservative. It certainly doesn't seem likely that a conservative would vote for someone backed by the corrupt Democratic Chicago machine, who would make our government a trifecta of so-called progressives (code-word for Marxists) adding the executive branch to the control of the Democrats along with the both the House and the Senate--the legislative branch. The only branch of government not totally in the control of our progressive inhabitants will be the judiciary, and, it wouldn't take long for that to happen under an Obama administration. He's young enough to outlast all the OLD judges, and it would only take one or two of them to toddle off.

Saunders
Raising taxes is the only way to 'fix' Social Security? Surely you jest!

SS was and always will be a Ponzi Scheme. It might have had a chance to remain viable if it hadn't been used as a slush fund for everything else but for what it was intended (medicare, medicaid etc)

Privatizing SS by allowing folks to invest in their own retirement (like Bush suggested should be done) was DOA in Washington.

More TAXES? Saunders, I suggest you speak to Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams and buy a clue.

Never fear, Saunders
The old McCain is still there - his costume will come off as soon as he wins the election.

How naive are you folks?

Your quote is misleading
your quote "Yes, the old John McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts. Now he pledges to keep them, in part because ending those cuts could do real damage to the American economy."

I am really disappointed in this comment, since it is a 'partial' statement and is misleading. It is the same rhetoric one normally hears from the left.
McCain voted against the tax cuts ONLY BECAUSE this bill did not contain the required SPENDING cuts that would be fiscally responsible. He has always been for tax reduction, but only when accompanied by cuts in spending...which makes perfect sense to those of us who are fiscal conservatives against wasteful entitlement spending.
Accuracy is not expected on the far left blogs, but is expected from our esteemed conservative commentators.

OLD BORING MCCAIN
McCain didn't offer world unity, world peace world healing, world change. His speech wasn't filled with utopian imbecilities for the likes of those "enlightened souls" who have "transcended political time and space," and yearn for a new age, another age, any age but this one. McCain just offered more of the same: more of the same sobriety, more of the same conservative good sense, more of the same Americanism and good old fashioned patriotism. How boring, how unexciting, how middle America and plain. I've heard it all before; heard it a 1,000 times and can hear it a 1,000 times more. Oh the excitement of a messianic campaign with a spaced out candidate seeking the presidency for self-gratification masked as revolutionary change.



Palin Does Not Change McCain
You're still voting for amnesty and cap and trade and he told you in his speech he will work with the Democrats to pass them.

I'm not voting for that.

Emily 83
You buy only things made in the USA, your house must be empty! Give us a break! As much as I would like to only buy items made in the USA, in this market place that is impossible. The electoronics alone take care of that rule. The computer case may say made in the usa but take a look inside, China, Indonesia,Malasia, Taiwan, Philipines, Japan, etc etc etc. Quit Kidding yourself and return to Earth!

Pumdit madness
I get very tired of reading not about what a man said or did but about what some nobody at a keyboard wanted instead.

Reagan
"McCain is not the right guy for this election he flip/flops on everything. Ronald Reagan never liked McCain after he abandoned his first wife for Cindy and I totally agree with Reagan, the best president we have had in the last 50 years."

That's just funny. No put down of RR but HE did ditch his frst wife, actress JAne Wyman, and Michael Reagan who trades on his name didn't talk to him for years.

John McCain has a good relationship with his ex, sent his children to school, and one of his boys from his first marriage manages Cindy's company.
Cindy is a philanthropist and learning about her is amazing.

reading from brian's drivel


He spouts:

" "McCain bucked his party's base..."

And that's something to BRAG about?"

No; but why should McCain be apologetic? Is he a man or a cipher? He goes where his conscience leads.


"Republicans nominated him even though..."

No, also wrong, as McCain wasn't nominated by Republicans; open and winner-take-all primaries were designed to minimize the influence of conservatives,"

REPLY: You haven't explained how. If so; what was reprehensible in that? Conservatives can be on the perverse and corrupt side of the party.

We certainly ARE Republicans-- with alternatives. We don't have to be in lockstep with your "base" to be the Republican Party.

" . . . and threw the system open to "independants" and other outsiders to actually make the selection."

We all benefit. You learn not to assume everyone is beholden to you. Results will help you see that. So long as we uphold basic conservative truths; tax reform, strong military, a Supreme Court without agendas, 2nd amendment gun rights, and most of all the Right to Life; we have our best candidate in years!

If you need a one-party system, just move to mainland China. There you'll never have to put up with "independents and other outsiders."

You-n-Me:
The MSM is going to try everything they can to destroy Sarah Palin over the next two months. Already, they've tried to portray the Palin family as white trash; lose women getting preggers.

Everyday between now and November 4th we need to talk to everyone we come across, especially our friends and family members. Make sure everyone is registered to vote, and that they know what the important facts are. America is depending on everyone to get involved; we're in for a fight against Obama and the MSM propaganda machine. The stakes are too high, and America simply cannot afford Obama, on oh so many levels. Are any members of your family Obamabots? Rescue them from the cult! We've got to get the word out, and perhaps word of mouth from "the Average American" is the most trustworthy endorsement a candidate could have.

McCain wont let srak make changes
McCain is still a rino, and far too stubborn and old to ever change his spots. He will not let Sarah change anything. he is far too egotistical and stubborn.

Yes, he shifted right for the election, but after his inauguration his old self will resurface.

And since its doubtful he will run for reelection, he has nothing to fear from the conservatives he has bamboozled.

Thus, when he is elected, we will have amnesty, more restraint on free speech, a resuscitated fairness doctrine, and "moderate" compromsing David Souter or at best Sandra O'Conner type SCOTUS choices.

He will also show how "bipartisan" he is by appointing many dems and moderates, and change the GOP to the so-called wish washy "Middle": read liberal. He willshift the GOP to the mushy middle, and it wil ateka long time to "right" it.

He is a David Souter trojan horse.

I am voting for my former congressman, Bob Barr,who is a strict cinstructionist federalist and also pro life although running as on the libertarian ticket.

jmo...

Nehemiah (AKA "an agent of intolerance)

Where in the heck
do you guys get these fabrications of Reagan?

As to McCain....welcome to politics and the land of compromise. If you want him to be more conservative then put pressure on him to do so.

As to the primaries, get off of your backside and get to work to change the primary system.

Dan in GA
Amen. McCain is a Trojan Horse Democrat.
Amnesty will be the first thing he does.

After all, everyone voted for it.

Wes
Pull your head out of your butt, or better yet just STFU
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