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Thursday, August 28, 2008
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
Democrats Talkin' Like the GOP
by Debra J. Saunders
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DENVER -- In some ways, the Dems confab sounds a bit like a Republican convention. For example: Nuclear energy? It's big here. The daily convention edition of the National Journal has been running pro-nuclear energy ads on Page Two every day -- and touting the support of Democratic Party biggies.

"Under any scenario, we're going to see more nuclear power, because it's just going to be more cost-effective once there's a price on carbon," quoth one Western senator.

Sen. John McCain? Nope. Sen. Barbara Boxer of California.

Radioactive is the new green. I like it.

Many of the delegates are sick of Bill and Hillary.

The candidate's wife makes it known that she only hits the campaign trail because her mother can take care of the kids. Forget the old days of careerism feminism -- attorney Michelle Obama is a mom first.

Former President and Nobel Peace Prize winner Jimmy Carter gets no respect. He didn't even rate a speaking role at the Democratic National Convention.

They used to say, "Jimmy who?" before he was elected. He was the leader of the free world for four years, and now they're saying it again.

At this Democratic gathering, taxes are a dirty word. Indeed, Democrats are talking up how tax cuts stimulate the economy and create jobs. Hmmmm. Where have I heard that before?

Democratic operatives don't even realize how much they sound like their Satan, George W. Bush. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., sat down with reporters Tuesday to discuss Barack Obama's economic package. In light of next year's anticipated $482 billion deficit, I asked her how Obama can tout tax cuts and more government programs.

Her answer: "The first question is: How do you do a tax cut and fight a war, which is what George Bush did." Hello, folks. If Obama is elected president, regardless of what he does in Iraq, he promises to increase military action in Afghanistan. He is proposing to do a tax cut and fight a war.

Speakers talk more about the economy than the war in Iraq. (I predict that speakers at the GOP convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul will talk more about the war in Iraq than the Dems talk about the war at their convention.)

Four years ago, at the Democratic National Convention in Boston (before Democrats took over Congress), the war was the overriding moral issue. Now the Democrats run Congress and U.S. troops are still in Iraq.

Where's the outrage?

In 1988, when Vice President George H.W. Bush said, "Read my lips: No new taxes," I was there. In hotel bars that night and in the weeks that followed, the buzz from the press -- I thought unfairly -- was that there was no way Bush would not be able to keep his word.

Obama has pledged to cut taxes for 95 percent of American families. Yet the media don't seem to challenge him as they challenged the Bush 41 -- who simply said he wouldn't raise taxes, not that he could cut them despite a large deficit.

It could be that the press have seen that tax cuts can work, and lead to revenue increases. But I think a larger factor is a change in the media. We expect politicians to pander, not lead. Like the public, we no longer demand that they make difficult choices.

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THEY SOUND LIKE THE GOP
Because the GOP has moved across the isle and have become libs themselves except for a few diehard conservatives. Until they return to conservative principles, this nation will flounder no matter what hollow promises Barry or Johnny makes.

And the GOP talkin' like Democrats!

The national GOP goes "California"!

Nothing else matters. The GOP has totally caved in on any claim to be anything other than a "moderate" wing of the Democrats.

Read about the new party platform here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080827/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_gop_pla tform

And read an analysis of it here: http://viewfromtheisland.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx

Anyone who's not a flaming liberal should be outraged, and demand an open convention next week.

Nuance, not Contradiction
To liberals, contradiction is not cognitive dissonance; it's nuance. And if you can't see that black may sometimes, under some circumstances, and in some places actually be white, you're just not nuanced yourself.

Yes, the Demonrats
make all kinds of promises which they will never keep. They don't have to worry, the press will not mention it.

The Republicrats though usually make an effort to try to keep their promises, which with McLame scares me.

Thanks for that link BrianR.

The legality of B. Hussein Obama.
Why is noone talking about the allegation that B. Hussein Obama is NOT a U. S. Citizen. I was sent a copy of a lawsuit filed by Philip Berg in the U. S. District Court of Pennsylvania regarding the legality of his candidacy .... I have this copy if you are interested. I don't know how to send it on this BLOG... However, the point is made that he was born in Kenya and his mother was underage so he could not be a citizen. Further that she renounced her citizenship when she moved to Indonesia and that B. Hussein Obama used his Indonesian Passport for travel to Pakistan in 1981. It is very interesting... I have not read anything about this before...

No Shhit Dick Tracy
As misguided as the Dems may be, they at least have enough working brain cells (20 or so) to understand that if the public knew their true agenda, they'd be ridden out of town on a rail, then drawn and quartered( a true form of torture). They can read the tea leaves(polls) too, which brings them to the conclusion that the only way to satisfy their lust for power is to co-opt their opponents' positions on almost every issue. Clinton called it triangulation. Once they achieve the goal of obtaining power, a lib can drop any pretense of conservatism and start raping the treasury for every dime they can beg, borrow or steal- oops I mean increase taxes.

Next week: GOP talking like democrats
If you think democrats talking like republicans is strange just wait for the GOP convention.

We're in for a big dose of Green with an Amnesty cherry on top. Geez! What a bunch of losers.

Democrats pro-nuclear?
Right. tell me another one, and pull my other leg while you're at it, Senator Boxer.

Democrats routinely lie to get in power, and when they get there, they essentially flip you the bird ,and say, "HA! Fooled you again! Bow down,peasant!"

Don't believe me? It was Bill Clinton who said, on Inauguration Night 1993, "The only was a true liberal can get elected is to masquerade as a moderate until it's too late for the enemy to do anything about it." ("The enemy" = anyone not defined as a liberal, not just Republicans- ask Joe Lieberman about that some time.)

Any promise made by the Democrats to anyone but their own (radical) base is worthless. At best, it will contain so many (often directly contradictory) conditionals so as to be a null set. More likely, it will be a bald-faced lie, pure and simple.

Their excuse is invariably, "We're always right- you're just too stupid to understand our subtle and nuanced reasoning."

A better definition would be, "We are egotistical, immature con artists, and we hate, fear, and despise you."

Anyone who votes for these lying fools deserves whatever they get. It's the rest of us who don't deserve to suffer along with them.

clear ether

eon

Leopards do not change their spots
Remember Willie's promise of a "middle class tax cut" to an electorate PO'd about GHWB reneging on his "read my lips" pledge? Remember how he basically flipped off everybody fool enough to actually believe him?

(BTW, GHWB did NOT lose because of the "read my lips" pledge as so many pundits claimed; he WON because of it in '88 & lost in '92 because he violated it.)

Furthermore, we're going to hear a lot of conservatiod noises & empty promises from the Republicans next.

Isn't it strange how the political elite & their pundit pals keep telling us conservatism is passe & unpopular & we have to downplay "right wing extremism" to appeal to "moderates"; yet when it comes time for actual candidates & campaigns to make pitches to the public for support, they talk a conservative game? Conservatism is only unpopular among those who make their living off big government & leftist ideology, including the ones who keep telling us true limited-gov conservatism is obsolete. Limited government cramps their style, thus they want it off the table as a real option.

All we need now is an actual conservative candidate & party to support & choose.

Obama==PUPPET OF DNC/MARXISTS
The only thing to know about Obama for the moment is this: He is an Empty Suit, With A Very Questionable Backgroud and When It does get Questioned, the MSM and their Propaganda Machine, make sure it is not reported on. Believe nothing you hear on the MSM News or other programs concerning politics.

Obama was Hand Picked By The DNC, their Backers who are every Radical Organization in America, and especially the Labor Unions and Radical Environmentalists, and for Communists the world over.

They know Obama does not possess the Knowledge, Intellect, nor experience in Domestic or International Affairs, beyond Marxist/Mob Chicago style politics. They also know Obama is a Narcissist who loves to see his reflection in the mirror and especially on TV.

So, the DNC, in selecting Obama knew that they had a Know-Nothing Narcissist, who would Read Anything They Put on A Teleprompter, with no regard for what he says as long as he is getting to perform in front of a camera.

They know that if were to become President, that he would support anything he Was Told To Support and would never read any proposals, as he could not understand them even if he read them to begin with.

The Perfect Puppet is Obama. And He Who Pulls The Strings Of the Puppet is Called The Puppet Master. The Puppet Masters of Obama are Liberal Democrat Congressmen and women who promote their perversion agenda, Marxists from Labor Unions, such as the National Association of Mis-Educators (NAE), Abortion Advocates, and every Socialist Nation in the United Nations.
With Obama as President, your freedoms and rights would be vastly curtailed almost immediately, as the Liberal Congress would waste no time in getting every Radical Piece of Legislation passed as soon as is possible, before Americans could even tell what was going on.

This is the most critical election in the History of Our Country.

Why are there so many knucklehead..
voters in this country?

If voters want to really wield their power they need to go discover/research the facts about candidates, congressmen, or senators for themselves.

Don't get your candidate info from the entertainment media, such as TV, talk radio, convention speeches, or partisan weblogs.

They are all biased.

Go to the sites: http://www.house,gov, http://www.senate.gov, http://www.whitehouse.gov, http://www.supremecourtus.gov and research/discover what your elected officials and judges have done or are doing in office. After a little voting record review you should be able to tell whether you agree or not with your elected officials or candidates for election.

Politician and parties play a shell game of ideas with us because we are too lazy to check what each of them say against what each of them do.

If we, as voters, demonstrate a real command of the facts, and vote accordingly, our country would be better off.




grandmashirley:
Even though the Constitution says what it says, there isn't a court in the nation that will consider the question of whether he is a citizen or not as long as the Democrats say he is. Sorry. After all, when was the last time the Democrats paid any attention to what the Constitution said anyway?

They have moved across the aisle.
They have moved across the aisle. Read an analysis in Samuelson's article on realclearpolitics yesterday about the "health care proposals" of both candidates. They were both estimated to cost $1 trillion over the next decade. Both support "cap and trade". That's another massive government regulatory boon-doggle. Neither one has any intention of removing illegals from the US, and whereas McCain claims he'll enforce the border - he stubbornly refuses to tell us how he intends to do that, or what it will cost. And, as the article points out, McCain is not going to support drilling in Anwar, the largest. most accessible and cheapestto extract oil field we currently have to exploit. (Unless you think its cheaper and easier to build oil platforms and float them out into the gulf - rather than take a few days to assemble a typical rig and start drilling). And then, we have tax cuts. Both have their favorite approaches, but neither wants to talk about how they can simultaneously increase spending and cut taxes - without increasing deficits. The only spending cuts talked about, is McCain's proposal on pork, which Samuelson pointd out totalled all of $17.1 billion last year - as opposed to that $482 billion deficit. That'll certainly do it. And of course, we also know that the GOP in Congress had already refused to support that pledge.

To Samuuelson, this campaign is devoid of any reality, and even less substance.

Get Over the Birth Certificate Thing
Everyone needs to get off of the “O’Vomit is not a citizen” meme. It has been investigated by responsible conservative experts and there is NOTHING there. We do ourselves no good by constantly repeating BS rumors that have been disproved long ago. It is just like repeating the “Bush Lied” meme. Give it up.

I watched some of the Platform
workings, but I didn't see anything about the unions' current goody, the People's Free Choice Check-Off with a Goon Standing at your Side bill.

Do Republicans really want to give unions free rein to coerce employees to sign up? Are we all mad at Wal-Mart too? Not that Right to Work would ever pass nationally; but couldn't a phrase like "No employee shall be denied the right to join a union, nor shall he/she be required to join without participating in a SECRET bellot" ... or words to that effect... be in our platform?

Someone let me know if it is, please.

Democrat Compassion for Babies

The 'Born Alive' baby who has known the closest contact with another human any human can experience - the baby has been inside another human for months.

The baby has kicked, stretched and some even suck their thumbs. Every need has been met by its human host - shelter, nourishment and safety.

Suddenly one day the baby is attacked with chemicals and poisons.

The baby enters a world bent on death and destruction towards its life.

The baby has never seen a butterfly, puppy, pretty colors or things all babies enjoy or had any human say I love you.

The baby enters the world in excruciating pain and the best trained Medical experts in the world refuse the baby any aid - in a hospital - where all facilities are available and the Doctors have sworn to protect all human life - except his.

The baby is thrown on a cold table and left to die in some hidden place.

The baby struggles to breathe because a human is born with the human will to survive. The baby cries and sobs for help - that never comes.

The innocent baby tries to live with every breath and dies alone, abandoned like a used kleenex, never having experienced anything but pain, rejection and hatred.

When the baby finally dies a death of torture and the ultimate rejection any human can receive, it is such a worthless human it doesn't even have a 'Death Certificate' issued that it ever existed.

For a few minutes, hours or days, that baby WAS an American Citizen, that should have received all of the 'Rights and Protections' under law, that any other American Citizen should have.

Michelle and Barack Obama and most Democrats, have done everything humanly possible, to make sure this baby does NOT even receive any pain medication.

As creepy as Obambi is

he will have $500,000,000 dollars to campaign with and that makes him a player despite his background, history, resume and smarts (or lack thereof). You can buy alot of votes for $500,000,000.

Several dubious moments in this column
First of all is that most Americans and even more most Democrats and independents feel some negative emotions about the war, whatever the politicians are or are not saying. If Obama gets elected his base will be pushing him hard to get out of Iraq.

Secondly, no matter what the Democratic politicians say nuclear is a dead issue in the United States. It is simply too dangerous and problematical. Again, Sanders should not listen to the big wigs. Pay attention to the small wigs, Debra.

Thirdly, the studies about tax cuts creating jobs, etc., are not quite supportive of that position. Bush's tax cuts for the rich are estimated to be responsible for .7 of one percent of the growth in GNP. Maybe a lot of jobs in a big economy, but still only a minor factor in the economy. But, as a matter of discretionary income tax cuts for the middle class and poor create a different value that tax cuts for the rich.

Cindy's Half-sister

DENVER (AP) — Cindy McCain's half sister says she will not vote for Republican John McCain and plans to cast her ballot for his Democratic rival, Barack Obama.

"I have a different political standpoint," Kathleen Hensley Portalski said in an interview with "Us Weekly," published online Thursday. "I'm voting for Obama."

Portalski said Obama's proposals are "more positive and I'm not a big war believer."

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbMJjet6b8h0zDODn4g2...



Dems talking like GOP
First of all Proud Liberal you are living in the past. Nuclear Energy is used in 70% of all Europes generating plants. The technology has been perfected too make nuclear safe and cheap. The Liberals all believe the lies perpetrated on them by the Liberal media. Governor Corswine of NJ is keeping out offshore drilling of the NJ coast based on 25 year old technology. His henchmen Lautenberg,Menendez and other Dems are holding us back.

Yeah, let's talk about Iraq
Malicki wants us out ASAP, won't contribute a dime out of the $75 billion budget surplus to offset our cost for the war, cuts out American oil companies out of development deals and now this:

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID= 34757

I guess Bush and the other idiots were telling the truth that the war was not about oil but establishing a democracy. Looks our soldiers fought and died for CHINAs oil. I don't even want to know about the sovereign fund (probably Shanghai or Dubai) that influenced our government to allow this to happen. I wonder how many of our politicians have money in those sovereign wealth funds.

Why don't we just leave already. What a mess.

Dems talking like Reps?
Didn't you get the memo? We're ALL liberal Dems these days. That's why the GOP allowed the Dems to nominate McCain for them. We may soon have Lieberman on the ticket too. That's why I am no longer a Republican and will be voting 3rd party in November. It's the only way to help conservatives in the House. They need our support. God knows they aren't getting any from their respective party leaders.

Sounds like the GOP...it's not...

Overall I was surprised by the DNC and especially Obama’s speech tonight. The only CHANGE that is taking place is with the DNC. It is sounding more like the GOP and Obama’s acceptance speech proved it. This CHANGE is one I wish was true; however, common sense tells me it’s not.

Reply to Pasadena Phil, et.al.
Don't give up the ship this time around Pasadena and others who think like this. This time around, a vote for a third party or a stay at home vote, will be a Vote For Obama.

Yes, we need to start a Hard Driving Third Party effort after November 4, but this time around, the nation's future is at stake.

Obama is the Hand Picked Puppet of the DNC, and they want him because he will Pass Any Legislation they put in front of him. They know he is an empty suit who is Pleased With Titles, and Seeing His Smiley Face on TV. They Know He is A Narcissist, and loves himself and the power more than life itself.

That is why the DNC want Obama to do their bidding and to pack the courts with Marxist Liberals made In the Image of Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Miller of California, and the rest of these sleazy Know Nothing Greedy Elitists who think that Main Stream America is Shallow enough to Vote Obama, and who Think That Mainstream USA are too ignorant to think for ourselves and need to Take Care Of Us, and pass laws dealing with Greasy French Fries, etc. just for our health's sake. No, thank you, I do not need a Nanny or a Nanny state being run by Criminals and Marxists.

So, Vote McCain. Anything less is a vote For Know Nothing-Puppet Obama.

DNC's Most Wanted List
The DNC convention in Denver looked like America's Most Wanted. I would not be surprised to see some of these faces on John Walsh's program.

You had Don Siegleman, former governor of Alabama, fresh out of Federal Prison on Bond For Taking Bribes and Racketeering charges while governor of Alabama. Wonder how many strings his Liberal Democrat Buddies in Congress and the Justice Department pulled to get him a bond set from the 11th Circuit Court Of Appeals, while he awaits a new trial. He gave a speech at the convention, and I am sure was seated as A Super Delegate.

Then, you had that Scoundrel, Mayor Negan, of New Orleans who is under investigation, and soon to be indicted for Fraud, Theft, and Corruption in ripping off millions of dollars of FEMA money intended to rebuild devastated neighborhoods in his beloved "Chocolate City." (Negan's term, not mine, so don't none of you Libs out there jump the gun and try playing the tired old Race Card on me.)

Then, you had the Mayor of Detroit, who is out of jail on bond for Assault. I am sure the list is larger than this, but my 2000 characters is coming close to an end. And, how about Marion Crackhead Barry, mayor of Our Nations Capital City. What a Party. And the DNC had Denver Suspend Drug Laws During the Convention. They knew that Most of their Party Out there were a bunch of Druggies. Wouldn't want any Super Delegates being arrested during the convention, now would we???

DNC's Most Wanted Update
DNC'S Most Wanted Update
And, I left out Obama's Mentor, Bill Ayers, convicted Domestic Terrorist, whose specialty was blowing up federal and other buildings that represented "the White Man's Establishments."

Maybe, Obama, had him stay home in Chicago, where he now teaches Marxist Economics at a Chicago, Illinois University. Wouldn't want old Bill to get antsy and blow anything up, now would we??

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