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Sunday, October 29, 2006
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
Where timetables lead
by Debra J. Saunders
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Sen. Dianne Feinstein told The San Francisco Chronicle editorial board Monday that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld should resign and that the United States should set a timetable for withdrawing its troops from Iraq. Polls, she said, show that Iraqis want Americans to leave. Perhaps President Bush could replace Rumsfeld with John Zogby or some other pollster, as Washington's alleged leadership argues that public opinion should dictate what America does in Iraq.

When Americans supported sending forces to Iraq, Feinstein voted in favor of the resolution authorizing force in Iraq. Now, polls show that Americans have soured on the war -- certainly Californians oppose it -- and Feinstein, who is running for re-election, was happy to point out that she regretted that vote.

So she wants a timetable. As the senator put it, "I think it may even be productive positively to say, 'Look we're going to aim to have all our people out by the end of '07.'" Feinstein added that all the polls show that Iraqis want U.S. troops to leave.

I am in favor of withdrawing according to any timetable approved by democratically elected Iraqi lawmakers. But unlike Feinstein, I think it makes more sense to let Iraqi leaders ask for U.S. troops to leave when they feel secure enough to do so -- rather than rely on polls. Right now, Iraqi leaders want U.S. boots on the ground.

It's important to read beyond the headlines on Iraq polls, especially the poll released in September by the Program on International Policy Attitudes -- as antiwar types point to it as proof that Iraqis want U.S. troops out.

Yes, the PIPA found that 71 percent of Iraqis want the Iraqi government to ask foreign forces to depart within a year -- 37 percent within six months and 34 percent "gradually" according to a one-year timeline. Some 20 percent want a gradual withdrawal within two years, 9 percent say they want to reduce U.S.-led forces as the security situation improves. You could say that the poll found that 63 percent of Iraqis support a gradual withdrawal -- but admittedly that does not match with the 71 percent of Iraqis would said they would most favor withdrawing all foreign military forces over the next year.

The PIPA poll asked, "Thinking about any hardships you might have suffered since the U.S.-Britain invasion, do you personally think ousting Saddam Hussein was worth it or not?" The answer for 61 percent: Yes, it was worth it.

If you think that a superficial look at polls should dictate foreign policy, consider this. The PIPA poll found that 47 percent of Iraqis think their country is headed in the right direction. Compare that to a recent poll that found that 44 percent of Californians say the state is headed in the right direction.

News on the Iraq war is bound to be bad when the media fail to report news that does not reinforce the media view of this war as unwinnable. It took less than two weeks after the war in Iraq began for The Chronicle to run the first opinion piece that called the war a "quagmire."

I shudder to think what would happen in Afghanistan if the defeat crowd wins an early retreat from Iraq. Feinstein echoed the argument made by Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., that the U.S. presence in Iraq has lasted longer than U.S. participation in World Wars I and II. As Feinstein put it, "After a war that's gone on as long just about as World War II, the people and the Congress are entitled to a timetable."

Well, U.S. troops have been in Afghanistan longer than in Iraq. Still, Feinstein said that she supports keeping troops in Afghanistan because "the Afghanis want the NATO forces there. Iraqis want us out. We have become an occupying force."

How long do you think that support will last if jihadis around the world decide to camp out in Afghanistan? How long will it take before polls show American support for U.S. troops in Afghanistan falling? How long then will it be before Feinstein wants an Afghanistan timetable?

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Bush & Rumsfeld's Timetable
Funny how Saunders ignores that the ones arguing all week for timetables were Bush and Rumsfeld. Who cares what Diane Feinstein thinks?

Red herring argument on Afghanistan. The entire country, including all the Democrats, were united in the need for THAT war- and the overthrow of the Taliban. No one is arguing we should be out of Afghanistan.

Rather, many think the decision to start a war in Iraq is weakening our ability to finish the job in Afghanistan.

Interesting Strategy

.....balconesfault....

.....I hope you really don't believe that we went into Iraq to bring them Democracy?...

.....we went into Iraq because we cannot allow the Islamo-fascists in the Middle East to have control over the oil fields...this would be an economic club with which they could club us into submission...

....it might even force the eco-nuts in this Country to allow us to drill in Anwar or to utilize our 300 year supply of coal reserves...

.....securing a foothold in Iraq and Afganistan puts us in a strategic position to take out Iran who is the real enemy waiting in the wings...

.....I was a teenager when the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima...I remember thinking that we were masters of the Universe...that since we were the only ones to possess such a powerful weapon that we could enforce world peace and there would be no more wars...

.....it never occured to my juvenile mind that others would soon possess this weapon or that we (our government) would be so stupid to allow other countries to develop it....Mr. Truman in all his "One World Government Socialist Mentality" even considered turning all our nuclear secrets over to his newly created United Nations...I guess we can thank our lucky stars that he didn't go that far...

....I guess Truman thought that since the Atom Bomb was such a destructive weapon that if everybody had one...it would never be used...this is the same kind of thought process that led the Rosenbergs to give our nuclear secrets to Russia...this would be like me giving one of my shotguns to the neighborhood thug in the hope that he would never use it against me...

.....such irrational thinking must be symtomatic of the Liberal mind.....COLOSSUS
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