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Sunday, December 07, 2008
David R. Stokes :: Townhall.com Columnist
Frost/Nixon and Usual Suspects
by David R. Stokes
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While conducting a recent radio interview with Robert Nedelkoff, who since 1997 has worked on behalf of the Richard Nixon Foundation at the National Archives in College Park, Maryland, a caller asked us if we were trying to “rehabilitate” the 37th President of the United States.  We were discussing the new movie - Frost/Nixon – from the standpoint of historical accuracy.  

My initial comment to the caller was that it would be rather difficult to rehabilitate anyone during a 12-minute radio segment, but of course, I understand what he was trying to say. 

Richard Nixon remains a complex, fascinating, controversial, and formidable figure nearly 15 years after his death – and 35 years after the whole agonizing period of Watergate.  To some he personifies absolute evil.  They see him as a sinister caricature reminiscent of the work of political cartoonist Herblock.

To others – especially as the years go by and we learn a lot more about all the other presidents – he is remembered for the totality of his life and work.  Watergate was an unforgettable episode – and certainly a sad chapter in his life and our history – but Mr. Nixon was far from the one-dimensional character defined by his past and present detractors.  

There was a lot of talk while Mr. Nixon was president about an “enemies list.”  But this does not discount the clear fact that Richard M. Nixon did, in fact, have many enemies - probably more per capita than any president before or since.  A lot of people hated the guy’s guts for a generation and worked tirelessly for the day when they would see him leave the national political stage. 

And – as he told David Frost in those now-famous interviews – he “gave them a sword” to use against him, one they gleefully used with “relish.”

Richard M. Nixon still has enemies.  The names and faces have changed with the passing of many old foes – but there never seems to be a shortage of people who keep the anti-Nixon flame burning.  

No, I am not trying to rehabilitate Mr. Nixon.  Certain things can never be undone.  But he did find a way to restore himself with a sense of personal persistence and resilience that is quite rare.  History will continue to analyze, judge, and interpret who he was and what he meant to our national narrative. But there is no way to change the basic fact that the man was on five national tickets – a feat only equaled by Franklin Delano Roosevelt. 

Was Richard Nixon worse than all the presidents before and after?  Of course not – he had his flaws and faults and they were played out before the nation’s eyes in a way that hadn’t happened before.

But it has happened with regularity ever since.

The more historians dig through the archaeological crust covering the machinations and motives of all those who lived and worked at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, the more we learn of things not known back in the day.  Occasionally, something pops up that begs the question: “Had the people known about this back then, would this president have survived?”

Ten years ago we impeached Bill Clinton for complications due to an illicit sexual affair.  He was not thrown out of office – nor did he resign.  But he did lie under oath and in a very real sense disgraced the presidency.  Yet, he remains a significant political player and will now have the ear of a secretary of state.  The whole impeachment – the scandal – the embarrassment – the ugly stuff is long forgotten.

Why is that?  And – why is it that Mr. Nixon’s shortcomings must be forever rehearsed and punished?

What if the public at large had known about John F. Kennedy’s shenanigans when he was president?  Several years ago, JFK confidant and admirer – the late Hugh Sidey of Time magazine – suggested in an on-camera interview that had Kennedy not been assassinated, and had he won re-election in 1964, our 35th president might very well have had to step down before his second term was finished. 

Sidey indicated that some of JFK’s “extra-curricular” activities might have brought him down (there was a lot of “there – there” behind the scenes and under the covers in that so-called “brief and shining moment”).  From being hyper-medicated (courtesy of Dr. “Feelgood”) while discussing matters with his Soviet counterpart, to a sexual addiction that led him to risk a dalliance with at least one possible East German agent, he lived on the edge of disaster.  I mean, seriously – can you imagine if George W. had done that stuff – or Richard Nixon?

Actually, you can’t – because they understood marriage vows – but I digress.

This is not the stuff of tabloids – all one has to do is go to the nearest bookstore or library and read biographies even written by JFK admirers.  Suggesting that Jack Kennedy had flaws and a propensity for high-risk behavior is not reserved for some “lunatic-fringe” - it is very much the widely understood and accepted version of his life and work.

I think any reasonable observer will note that along the way about 35-40 years ago something began to change in this country.  It had to do with how stories were covered and reported.  In fact, the modern era of what we now take for granted as “investigative journalism” was born against the backdrop of the event that gave rise to a now-familiar suffix attached to any and every potential political scandal – Water-GATE.

None of this is to excuse some of the stuff that went on in the Nixon White House.  I simply want to make the point that had the kind of media scrutiny we have now come to expect been applied to some of the presidents before Nixon, we just might have seen one topple before number 37. 

Watergate changed all the rules and how the game was played. 

Now comes another movie based on a screenplay by Peter Morgan - who wrote the script for The Queen a couple of years ago.  It is directed and produced by Ron Howard and stars Frank Langella as Mr. Nixon and Michael Sheen (who played Tony Blair in The Queen) as David Frost.  Before the film there was a play – I saw it on Broadway.  It is all somewhat based on a book written by James Reston Jr. called The Conviction of Richard Nixon: The Untold Story of the Frost/Nixon Interviews

We are cinematically transported from the dawn of the age of Obama back to another time and place – the days of Nixon.  For many of us it conjures up memories – some bad, some indifferent – all complex.  But for many who will see the film there will be the tendency to confuse image and dramatic license for authentic history.  This film is, in all fairness, not as bad as an Oliver Stone hatchet-job, but it does have material it in that – well – never actually happened (e.g., a bizarre drunken late-night phone conversation that Mr. Nixon did not make – words are put in his allegedly inebriated mouth that he never uttered – and some viewers will accept them as factual, which is sad).

At a recent screening here in Washington, D.C. at the National Geographic Society headquarters, Ron Howard, Peter Morgan, and James Reston Jr. were joined by historian Robert Dallek – and a host of others in the audience – to discuss the film.  It was suggested that Frost/Nixon is “a metaphor for George W. Bush” – presumably because some in the audience see number 43 as someone who has “abused” the office of the presidency (a common accusation from political opponents who disagree – things can’t be left on the level of differing opinions, the other guy has to be demonized).

Jim Pinkerton has written about this and how Chris Wallace of FOX News Sunday braved “the liberal wind” and dared to challenge this notion as “a grave misrepresentation of history, then and now.” 

Historian Dallek responded that, while Nixon’s peccadilloes were well known because of his tapes, it will be some time before such similar information comes out to illustrate the “full horror” of the Bush presidency.

Don’t hold your breath Bob.

In a way, Robert Dallek highlights something very important that should be kept in mind when we analyze the life and work of our leaders.  He seemed to suggest that historians are going to search diligently for evidence to prove something they already believe to be true – that George W. Bush has abused the presidency. 

Well – I would suggest that if you apply that kind of scrutiny – and moral judgment (fair and balanced moral judgment) – to most of the presidents over the past 100 years, you will find stuff that would have brought some leaders down had it all been noised about contemporaneously.

There is a reason no one tapes stuff in the Oval Office anymore.  The rules of the game changed about 35 years ago.  Had they changed 45 years ago, John F. Kennedy might have found himself sitting down with David Frost. 

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David R. Stokes is a minister, writer, and broadcaster. His weekly talks at Fair Oaks Church in Fairfax, Virginia and host of Loud on Purpose, heard Monday to Friday in Washington, D.C. on WAVA 105.1 fm.
 
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I couldn't read it all...sorry!
Please don't defend Nixon. The fact is, I heard him on audio tape tell one of "his boys" to hassle a reporter for writing a "negative" story on him. I'm sorry, that was enough for me to hear. The guy was a jerk....maybe smart and maybe effective (sounds like Slick Willy), but integrity is not an attribute attached to Nixon. There should me no Nixon Library and such. He was a disgrace to his country and party. He set the stage for Carter (good grief). Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'll read the rest of the article....but I don't think so.

Clinton
You state that Bill Clinton will have the ear of the new secretary of state. I bet he won't have much beyond the ear.

FACTS
NIXON:
Tried to hide and cover-up documentation (tapes), but were found
OBAMA:
Successfully has hidden documentation (original birth certificate, pass ports, acedemic records, etc.)
NIXON:
Had a secret 'enemies list'
OBAMA:
Has a well-known 'list' of friends who are 'enemies' of our Country--aryes, wright farrahkan etc.
NIXON:
Had supporters break into Watergate to dig up dirt on his enemies and then was forced to resign the Presidency because of what the mainstream media exposed.
OBAMA:
Had his supporters and the mainstream media dig up dirt on his opponents (in his first senate race) and then on Joe the Plumber and Governor Palin, and then was elected as our next president.
Just thought I'd shine the light on the fact that the majority of Americans today have already 'changed'---from the intolerance of 'evil' to embracing it.


Scoundrel Presidents
Nixon haters, get over it! Nixon was a flawed president just as was Jimmy Carter, JFK, and Bill Clinton. Remember JFK almost got thousands of us slaughtered during the Cuban missile crisis. What with his fooling around with every woman he could get his hands on Kennedy certainly was not an ideal president. And we still do not know the full extent of Clinton's iniquities.
Nixon is the liberals' bete noir just as Clinton serves the same purpose for Republicans. Nixon should be given due credit for opening up China, which is a diplomatic feat that has not been matched by any of his successors, Democrat or Republican.
History and memory is skewed about presidents because of the scandalous bias of Hollywood producers and directors and brain-washed journalism graduates.
Here's my take: Carter was the most incompetent president in our lifetimes, Kennedy has the record for most adulteries committed while CIC, but oh, wait, I forgot about Bill Clinton who famously said words that will go down in history, "I never had sex with that woman."

Here is my take...
...whatever the MSM is for,I'm against.Whatever the MSM is against,I'm for.It saves a lot of time and I will be right more often than I am wrong.

And BTW,Bill was talking about Hillary when he said that he "never had sex with that woman",not Monica.He just got the names confused,that's all.Can happen to anyone.

it stands to reason.
The Nixon tapes are astonishing as well as hilarious...those I have heard thus far.

His thoughts, the machinations of his mind, are exceedingly compelling, like watching a trainwreck or auto accident in slow motion.

Nixon was an EXTREMELY bright man who was possessed by huge character flaws and demons.

Why not rehabilitate Nixon?

There are clowns out there now trying to rehabilitate G.W. Bush.

So if we are gonna rehabilitate a dunce, the least we ought to do is rehabilitate a very bright person too.

It stands to reason.


NIXON
I lived the Nixon years. These people writing comments must not know much about what happened. NIXON DID NOT ORDER WATERGATE. NIXON DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE BREAK-IN. When he found out, he covered it up. That was his sin and nothing more besides he used foul language, per the tapes. For that, he has been vilified for these many years.

However, what the Nixon years did give us was this sick, demented press corp who influence the news rather than report it.

Example: Palin is stupid because she had a bad interview with Katie but Obama is a genius even though he said he'd visited 58 states. It's all in the spin. Reagan was a dunce. Bush is a dunce. Seems ALL Republicans are either dunces or evil demons. Can't say Nixon and Chaney are dunces - that won't stick. So make them evil demons. That will stick as evidenced by the comments of these people writing in to comment.

Nixon opened up trade with China. Ended the slaughter in Vietnam and brought our servicemen home. He was not an evil demon and he did NOT do anything any worse than John F. Kennedy did, which was get us into Vietnam in the first place and let Cuban freedom fighters be slaughtered at the Bay of Pigs when he had pledged U S support but didn't come through at the last minute. That's not mentioning his countless sexual, sick liasons while Jackie was out of town.

Presidents
Had LBJ JFK Jimmy Carter and Obama had been republicans they would be known to have been as bad if not worse than Nixon.It was the commie left that hated Nixon and still do today.

Nixon
The man accomplished the following for you brainless liberals (Oh I forgot - we don't use the "L": word anymore" :

Ended the Vietnam war.
Ended the draft.
Initiated Affirmative Action.
Initiated relations with Communist China.
Massively increased Johnson failed "war on poverty programs.

These are undisputable facts.

To this day he is despised and kicked around by by liberal pinheads. Most people forget the 1960 election was stolen from him, but his love of country kept him from throwing the country into a crises (unlike Gore). Most people forget he could have destroyed the evidence (unlike Clinton's attempts) that forced him out of office - but his love of the law forced him to turn over the tapes to Congress. He served his country in WWII and went down with the ship when his underlings did stupid things to destroy his Presidency. Is it time we stopped kicking the man around???

Carol
You make some very good points. Much is made of the fact that Nixon had his "enemies list", but the Watergate scandal typified the emergence of a style of journalism in which the journalists have their own enemies lists (mostly Republican BTW).

It's important to remember that the Watergate scandal was about a break-in at the Democratic National Committee office. Granted, it was a reprehensible thing to do, but compare that with Sandy Berger stealing classified documents from the National Archives on the eve of the 9/11 Commission hearings. Berger's crime was magnitudes greater than Nixon's cover-up, but journalists had little interest in pursuing the story. The Berger incident should have warranted extreme scrutiny by the media, and even the 9/11 Truthers, but their interest was in nailing Bush to the wall.

Numerous times during his presidential campaign, John Kerry referred to Vietnam as "Nixon's war", and no one in the media blinked an eye at such a gross lie. As long as we have a media that works on behalf of the Democrats, we will continually be bombarded with such lies and distortions.


My take on all this
Every person alive has dirty laundry that should not be aired out to the general public.
Even right now we have many people in high places, places of power and offices with low morals and/ or poor judgement who shouldn't be in their positions.
Just look at where we are and how we got there.
If we looked to the common good and not our personal interests a lot of these indivisuals would be moved to the cesspit of evil & corruption that so many have escaped and will escape. Only time will tell if any of those now in power will be exposed and only if the sheeple are willing to vote beyond their own personal, selfish interests will true honor prevail. Such sadly will not be the case.
We now have a bunch of FOOLS in Government on both sides, both in this administration and the one soon to follow, who have no other interest than their own future re-election to power and its financial rewards.
Morals and the welfare of the country and the world at large have nothing to do with it.
Sad.
Truly Sad.

Richard Nixon saved my life!
Minky's right! The "consulting" role that the US military got handed by our "allies", the French, was supposed to be drawn down under JFK's remaining leadership, until he was gunned down in Texas, ( of all places! ). The Vietnam war was LBJ's, and it was as flawed in conception as his "war on poverty". The North Vietnamese, ( and many of the South ), considered us the heirs to the French Imperialists, not defenders against the advance of socialism, ( which most of humanity still thinks superior to capitalism, despite its repeated failure and cost in lives! ).

We need to wrest control of historical fact from the fictions foisted upon us by ignorant journalism. The internet and communities like TH are our best hope!

Nixon Good-Bad???
Nixon was Richard M. Nixon-- a Meglomaniac like a person must be who aspires to be President of ANY country..
I still have never seen the degree of absolute HATRED directed at GW Bush aimed at any other Public Official..I'd like to read a Professional Shrinks discourse on that subject..
I have more than a few Family Members overcome with The Hate Bush thing and have yet to hear any reational explanation from any of them..Cheers

Why people hate Bush?
Roy - To try to answer your question (I'm a professional psychologist though not a psychiatrist). I think the reason that Bush is so disliked is based on his actions, which included: Exploiting the 9/11 tragedy, lying the country into the illegal Iraq war, botching two wars, continuing to lie about the wars, initiating illegal surveillance activities within this country, initiating illegal torture and rendition activities, and so on. Also, his tax cuts redistributing wealth to the very richest people were viewed with disgust.

There might also be some dislike arising from Bush's "inheritance" of his political career, and his macho posturing such as the "mission accomplished" bravado.

But in general, I think the "hatred" is the direct result of his actions. The guy was simply a disaster. People might have been willing to cut him some slack if he stopped lying and admitted mistakes, but he never would. Now, my reading is that the left has moved away from more hateful emotions (which were never as strong as you seem to think) regarding Bush and more toward pity and fear (that his policies won't be corrected).

What's most interesting to me is the difference between Nixon and Bush. Nixon's wrongdoing was truly trivial compared to Bush's. What brought Nixon down was the existence of a legitimate opposition party, and more important, a legitimate media. Neither of these exist today.



Nixon bashing
The late Richard Nixon's hatred by the media over Watergate makes the Sarah Palin's media treatment look like a love fest by comparison. I wonder if Richard was hated because he was a Republican?

Dr. Douglas
Agreed.

Stokes asked
"Was Richard Nixon worse than all the presidents before and after?"

And answers correctly with "no"--though reason is not the one Stokes mentioned, but that Carter became in 1980 the unquestioned holder of that dishonour (which will likely soon pass to 0blahma, due to the latter's unquestionable LACK of loyalty to this country).

Dr. Douglas
Considering your diagnosis I am grateful you are not in the same TIME ZONE as myself. Your repitition of the J@ckasses talking points does not make them true. No matter how many times you repeat a lie or even a strawman, that DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.
A Psychologist, indeed.

Liberals will always hate the Truth
And the truth is that Nixon was a great president. He ended the mess that was Vietnam, begun and intensified by Democrat jerks like Kennedy and LBJ. If only Nixon had contested the election that was stolen from him in 1960, we could have avoided Vietnam altogether. Instead we got the Bay of Pigs atrocity (thanks, Kennedy!) and the slaughter of Vietnam (thanks, LBJ!) And, of course, we have the sick Drive-by Media (thanks, Bernstein and Woodward!)
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