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Tuesday, June 23, 2009
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Reasons for Cautious Optimism
by David Limbaugh
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American freedom lovers studying the reign of Obama have been in a constant state of anxiety over the administration's assault on capitalism and America's very solvency, its thuggish political style, its PR war against America's history, its radical social policies and its Carteresque foreign policy. But for the first time, there are signs that America is starting to wake up.

The latest daily Rasmussen Reports Presidential Tracking Poll has Obama slipping into negative net approval territory, with more Americans strongly disapproving of his performance (34 percent) than strongly approving (33 percent). Just 54 percent of voters say they at least somewhat approve. Even the Gallup Poll reports a decline in his approval rating to a new low, albeit still at 58 percent. The decline results from a drop in support among independents, as well as Republicans -- but not Democrats.

Can you imagine what these numbers would be if the mainstream media weren't invested in Obama's success or, better yet, if moderate Democrats weren't still blinded by their lingering excitement over regaining the presidency and their vulnerability to Obama's cultish aura?

But it's not just the polling data that are encouraging. Obama's blame-it-on-Bush mantra is starting to wear thin. Another Rasmussen survey found that 39 percent of voters now think our economic problems are caused more by Obama's policies -- a 12-point jump from just a month ago.

Also, support for Obama's most dangerous agenda item, nationalized health care, is waning. A recent ABC News//Kaiser Family Foundation/USA Today survey indicates that 89 percent of Americans are satisfied with their health care. Worse (for Obama), congressional Democrats have warned that his plan is in jeopardy because its projected costs range between $1 trillion and $1.6 trillion, according to Congressional Budget Office scoring, and it would not even reduce by half the number of uninsured (the fraudulent impetus behind the administration's manufactured crisis). Just wait until further damaging truths come to light about the horrors awaiting America's health care system if it is nationalized, including government rationing and dramatically lower-quality care.

The White House is showing signs of stress. We see increasing defensiveness from White House press secretary Robert Gibbs, whose daily dips into incoherence are no longer even newsworthy. Asked to respond to long-delayed criticism from President Bush over Obama's national security and domestic policies, Gibbs trotted out, yet again, the administration's mindless retort, "We kept score last November, and we won."

But Gibbs outdid himself when he was unable to name a solitary nation that has benefited from a single-payer health care system. While Obama steadfastly maintains he is not angling for a public monopoly, everyone knows that is the inevitable result -- and intent -- of his plan.

Obama received another setback last week, when Congress repudiated his feckless policy on the Iranian crisis with a resounding 405-1 vote in favor of a resolution of solidarity with the Iranian protestors. Even the Democrats didn't have the guts to go on record endorsing Obama's positions of moral equivalence and opportunistic passivity.

I can't help but believe that Obama will be his own worst enemy in his efforts to reverse the trend in his popularity as the disconnect between support for his policy agenda and his personal popularity continues to erode. Every indication is that he is a stubborn ideologue ill-suited to make policy adjustments when reality continues to gobsmack his purblind vision.

While Obama resembles Jimmy Carter in some respects, he is starkly different in his aversion to attend to details, preferring to bask in his broader vision and assume -- narcissistically -- that his force of will alone will bring about the results he seeks.

Consider: He has refused to backtrack on his commitment to close Gitmo, despite overwhelming public disapproval of the policy and no plans for prisoner relocation. He clings to the fantasy that effeminate overtures to the world's thuggish dictators will entice them to behave. He is philosophically impervious to the 100 percent failure rate of socialized medicine in world history and to the mounting research and expert opinion contradicting his intractable position on man-made global warming. His so-called stimulus money -- the limited percentage of it that was front-ended -- is being allocated disproportionately at the state level to relatively unproductive rural projects at the behest of some local politicians, who have more incentive to bring home the bacon than conform to Obama's directives toward shovel-ready projects.

As more time passes and Obama's ability to scapegoat his predecessor declines further, along with his apparent charisma, more Americans will see just how different Obama's worldview is from theirs -- and they'll begin to see more clearly the woeful ineffectiveness and destructiveness of his policies.

Wishful thinking perhaps -- but that's better than I had a few weeks ago.

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Not Just an Ideologue . . .
. . . Obama's also a Class "A" sociopath. He's the type who will tell you with conviction that the sun is shining even though it's raining cats, dogs and all other documented species at that given moment. He's also the type who will go on about how beautiful a house he's standing in front of is - as arsonists are setting it ablaze at that very moment.

On the debit side, thanks to Obama, there are polls suggesting that Americans' support for Israel is declining - in direct proportion to the rise in overt Jew-hatred on a level not seen since the 1930's.

You summed him up David
"Every indication is that he is a stubborn ideologue ill-suited to make policy adjustments when reality continues to gobsmack his purblind vision"

I am serious when I say he is mentally ill.

His mind has been taken over by a sickness that comes from self love, the love of an egotist for himslef along the lines of men like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro and other such mentally diseased men.

Appearing to their followers as angels of light, he is the harbinger of dark days many of us see coming.

Coming from the policies and stubbornness of this little man lifted way above what he is capable of performing, President of the USA.

Just as the policies of the men mentioned above brought death and hunger.

Darkness has fallen across America already with this omen the man Obama is

Hugo Chavez Less Marxist than Obama

Chavez says he and Castro is more conservative than Barack Obama.

"Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp.

During one of Chavez's customary lectures on the "curse" of capitalism and the bonanzas of socialism, the Venezuelan leader made reference to GM's bankruptcy filing....

"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors.

Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast."

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/hugo-chavez-comra de-obama-fidel-careful.html

Throwing a tantrum?

Is there someone in the opposition who could Bama into a lather?

If he were a conservative, the big media would be working on him daily to see if they could get him throwing a hissy fit.

That's hope I can believe in!

Add another
group to the list of humans obama despises.

"Congress repudiated his feckless policy on the Iranian crisis with a resounding 405-1 vote in favor of...the Iranian protestors. Even the Democrats didn't have the guts to go on record endorsing Obama's positions..."

Of course clownmessiah supports the mullahs. He supports ALL dictatorships. He admires the thugs and covets their absolute power.

AND, as he has stated so eloquently in his rag Dreams of Mein Muslim Fuhrer... "He will stand with islam" everytime.

The Iranian PEOPLE want shed of their brutal theocracy. They are rejecting islam and yearn for Freedom, as any sane person would.
Of course hussein(pissbeuponhim) opposes them.

Assclownmessiah has shown over and over the disdain he holds for white people, for Jews, for America, and now, for Freedom for...anyone.


Hope
Hope is a spiritual reality not monetary, as for Foreign diplomacy, where is Joe Biden; the Vice President? As for qualifications, neither have a clue what trully is at stake nor what their job description is. Could it be that most the politican's have forgotten they serve the American Public Interest rather than their own?
I believe WW III is just around the corner, hopefully the first casualties will be our very own politicans! Now that would be change!
Gerald Cleverley

The evils of "The One"
This villiage idiot is the worst since the peanut farmer and he's not my President.
I didn't vote for him and I don't support his evil poliies or those of the Statist Demoncrats.
Like Limbaugh, I hope his policies fail and fail quickly before he and his minions destroy our country and I hope he fails as well.
No adulation from me for this piece of moral and financial evil.

Obama Listen!!
Obama won't budge on any of his left-wing policies. During the campaign he would say I will listen to what the American people want but now he isn't.

Obama isn't listening. He is is an iealogue with an agenda and has proven he is not going to do what's best for the American poeple. Obama is going to do what's best for Obama.

Obama Listen to the American people!!! Stop being nacissistic!!!! Stop this assault on our capitalist society and our freedom!!!! The American people don't want socialism. So, Obama stop your descent into socialism!!!

LMAO
David thank you so very much for making my day. Please do keep thinking that you reactionaries are the future. limbawl/Palin for 2012. LMAO

Hal
Obama won the election because of his "winning" smile and personal charisma. He looked cool, sounded cool, and smiled at all the right times.
And, to give him credit where it's due, he is an outstanding speaker (at least when his teleprompter is working).

The problem is, that's really all he has going for him. Once you get beyond the charm, he looks uglier and uglier.

The American people are waking up to the fact they got conned. On the morning after, America is realizing it just got screwed. And it was a lousy lay.

LMAO

Congress 1 Obama ZERO
The Statler Brothers had a hit with this Eric Heatherly song: Countin' Flowers on the Wall

A Paddy Whack©
Countin' Cowards on the Mall

I keep hearing 'bout returns to 'misery index'
Carter years were long ago and we forgot, I guess
All those RINOS in DC say 'don't you worry, none'
Wait until the next election, We'll unseat the One

Countin' Cowards on the Mall
Don't it bother you at all?
Playin' politics til dawn, while they riot in Tehran
Taxing Cigarettes, and Flushing Money down the Loo
Now don't tell me, They care about you.

When we watched those cell-phone pictures coming from Iran
Barry ran the other way, an ice-cream trip to plan
Resolutions in Support of Freedom from Congress!
But Obama only makes Apologies, I guess

Countin' Cowards on the Mall
Don't it bother you at all?
Playing politics til dawn, while they riot in Tehran
He smokes cigarettes, and flushes more cash down the loo
Now don't tell me, he cares about you!

Well, pay attention to this guy, I think you'll get a fright
Watching all the laws he breaks as if he has the right
Cap and Trade and soon Health Care will join to bring us down
And those newsmen all providing cover for this clown

Countin' Cowards on the Mall
Don't it bother you at all?
Playin' politics til dawn, While they Riot in Iran
Ridin' private jets and eatin' beef they call Wagyu
Now don't tell me, he cares about you.

Now don't tell me, he cares about you.

Curtal Friar
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 7:26 AM EST,,,The problem is, that's really all he has going for him. Once you get beyond the charm, he looks uglier and uglier.

The American people are waking up to the fact they got conned. On the morning after, America is realizing it just got screwed. And it was a lousy lay..."

It amazes me how you reactionaries alw3ays run to sexual references. If you look closely he still has more support than on election day and strong personal support. The honeymoon is over and now the hard part is here. Just take the healthcare issue; the vast majority of America wants universal healthcare the disagreement is over what should it look like. You guys are a fading fringe

THE ANTI LIBERAL ZONE
Has a FRESH ESSAY up excoriating not only the libstains but the GOP and Juan McShamnesty as well!

Click on my handle to check it out.

Just SAY NO to UHC
Here is a remix of the Beatles' "When I'm 64"

A Paddy Whack ©

When we're all stuck with Obamacare
Not too long from now
Will you still be handling your family's health
Choose your doctor, keeping your wealth?
If you will find you need surgery
Will the wait be more?
Will it be better, for all us debtors
When we're Sixty-four?

OOOOO

You'll be hurting too...
And if we let them win
I'd prefer the flu!

Will we be healthy, what will we eat?
When they hold your plan?
Makes you wonder who is gonna pay those bills
Won't Big Pharma ration your pills?
If we could take a practical stand
And reduce our risk
No more illegals, Nor Hillary Sequels!
Let's just call it quits!

I can still remember when our health care was a private choice, and we paid the bills
Then those law suits grew
Red tape and Lawyers too
Now it's sue, sue, sue!

Why should we pool our money and share?
What's your freedom worth?
Bankruptcy is not the way to spread the wealth
Poverty is worse for your health
When we're tied up in tangled red tape
Filling out more forms
Will you have choices? Will you have voices?
With health care reform?

HAL THE LYING REMF POGUE TROLL
reactionaries RAWKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

Hallie a good parrot! RAWWWWWWWWWWWKKKKKKK!

Give Hallie a cracker! RAWWWWWKKKKKKK!

Did you get you talking points from Soros this AM troll boy?

After all, you admitted that you're a lying troll on Malkin's post on 3 June. Do I need to repost them to remind you?

Hallie's a good REMF! RAAAAWWWWWWWWWWKKKK!

Hallie needs a cranial enema! RAKKKKKKKK!

Hal says:
****the vast majority of America wants universal healthcare the disagreement is over what should it look like.****

Really? I'm sure you have a source to back up your words. Let's see it. All the available polls indicate the majority are fine with their medical coverage.

You see, Hal, a lot of the so-called uninsured are not people who are suffering. They are college students and young single men and women that would rather spend their money on having a good time than paying for insurance coverage.

I know, I used to be one. When you're in your twenties and strong and healthy, you don't see the need for medical insurance. I never opted for medical insurance till I was well in my thirties. Hell, I never had to go to the doctor when I was younger, so why the hell would I want to spend money on something I wasn't going to use?

The really poor people who need medical coverage and can't afford it at all already have medical coverage provided for them. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. Also, as I'm sure you're well aware, you don't need insurance to present to any county or state hospital.

GunnyG and Mrs. Paddy
Good morning to ya both.

Looks like Hal has been sniffing Sterno again.

LMAO

Hal
Furthermore, there are many charitable medical institutions across the country set up for treating the poor.

We don't need Universal Health Care, nor do the American people want it.

When you get down to it, this is not about taking care of the poor. This is another method of enslaving the people and making them beholden to the government.

Hal:
If the "vast majority" want universal healthcare, it is because they believe someone else will pay for it for them.

When, as is inevitable, demand for medical services exceeds supply of available medical personnel because people quit going into medicine and nursing because they are not getting enough out of their professions ($$$) to pay off their student loans and liability insurance premiums as well as their other expenses, what then? Tell me, o omnicient one.

HAL THE LYING REMF POGUE TROLL
proclaims that a majority of americans WANT Barry Care.

WRONG!

http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=1534

and in the NY Obama Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/us/politics/18poll.html?_ r=1&hp

and still more oppose his policies in general

http://prairiepundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/majority-in-us-op pose-obama-policies.html

Ain't facts a B***H troll boy?

Curtal Friar
Yeah, the REMF is sniffing glue and DRINKING sterno.

His chronic BDS has inflamed to a raging case of HUA (Head Up A**!)

HAL THE LYING REMF POGUE TROLL
How do you like THESE apples?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/oba ma_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Your boy is flaming out! haha. And we're ready and willing to keep kicking him when he's down!

TYPICAL COMRADE BARRY
BHO: "Ah, we're gonna do something about the drug industry..."

But then they have no idea WHAT to do!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/22/white-house-expl ain-half-billion-drug-savings/

Elections have consequences. This is what happens when you elect a chump rookie.

Insurance for health
makes little sense, except for catastrophic coverage.

Think about it. EVERYBODY will need health care at some point. Most of the time is is minor and, therefore, affordable. Like changing the oil in your car etc. It is the price of doing business, keeping your car/body 'tuned up'

You don't carry car insurance to cover routine maintenance. You don't carry Home Insurance to pay to mow your lawn. It is there in case of the rare instance when you have an accident or disaster (like a house fire, which is RARE)

Pooling insurance premiums for RARE events is sensible. Pooling Taxes for EVERYONE for EVERY kind of medical care is ridiculous.

It cannot possibly be self-sustaining. Therefore services will be rationed...they have to be because you can't get blood out of a turnip. Even though Obama says Yes He Can.

Popularity
I don't suspect that our King's approval ratings will drop a whole bunch until the late fall. Many Americans will give him more time to overtake more industries until they are fed up with it. And remember, it's vacation time (at least for those who can still afford it) so they block it all out. I will make one caveat: if there is a huge foreign policy crisis that goes awry, the King's approval ratings will tank to the lower 40s.

Mrs Paddy
Exactly right. Mark Steyn was making a point about rationed care yesterday using bonafide examples from Canada and Britain and Australia.

First hand examples. He talked about when a doctor in the UK sliced a cast off of his leg and went too deep and sliced his leg open, the doc was like, "oops, my bust." And nothing else. What can you do to a bureaucrat except kill them? Nothing.

Wait till advocates of obama care get told, "sorry, you're too old and worthless for that operation," then they'll be whining and bleating!

Of course Hal the REMF is too old and useless for anything other than being given a bandaid for a cut!

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue

Good morning, troll.

Wow, it only took you a couple of posts to use your new favorite word, "reactionaries", AND to post a complete falsehood, "majority want universal healthcare".

As usual, no cited sources for your "facts".

Thank you once again for being a caricature of the Left and for being a recruiting tool for conservatism, Hal.

"LMAO©"

GunnyG©
Yes. I listened to Mark Steyn and I thought he (as usual) made a very cogent case.

My take on all of this is UHC is our Rubicon.

WE MUST stop it. If we do not, we are done.

Hal
Hey, check it out:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Ap proval.aspx

Obama's approval rating is at the lowest it's been yet (57%), while his disapproval rating is at the highest it's been yet (35%).

Your boy's going down and he's bringing the democrat party with him.

LMAO (permission not needed from the barstoolwarmer)

Hard core left wing idealist
The fraud in the WH is a classic, text book liberal/socialist - he came from the insulated, theoretical world of academia where socialism/marxism/communism are revered - he has no practical experience on any level and cannot point to any significant professional accomplishment - he knows only theory not reality.

What else can you expect?

Hal
You know, for a while I thought I would just ignore your pathetic ideological rants, but then I realized someone needs to bring "light to the darkness", so, here I am!

LMAO (permission not needed from the barstoolwarmer)

Curtal Friar
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 7:57 AM EST
Hal says:
****the vast majority of America wants universal healthcare the disagreement is over what should it look like.****

Really? I'm sure you have a source to back up your words. Let's see it. All the available polls indicate the majority are fine with their medical coverage..."

Sure they are fine with it BUT at the same time they think everyone should have healthcare. Check the polls

"...I know, I used to be one. When you're in your twenties and strong and healthy, you don't see the need for medical insurance. I never opted for medical insurance till I was well in my thirties. Hell, I never had to go to the doctor when I was younger, so why the hell would I want to spend money on something I wasn't going to use?...The really poor people who need medical coverage and can't afford it at all already have medical coverage provided for them. It's called Medicare and Medicaid. Also, as I'm sure you're well aware, you don't need insurance to present to any county or state hospital."


SC
Too true.

We can only hope enough of America wakes up to the reality of what Obama is before he sucks our nation down the tubes.

Curtal Friar II
Couple of points the young have no insurance but are injured routinely then go bankrupt and their life is ruined. Who winds up paying for their healthcare? We the taxpayer. So you relied on society to provide your insurance.

The really poor do get medicaid not medicare. The really poor, weak etc who own nothing are covered. It is the working poor who get nailed. They pay more for care; if uninsured they go bankrupt and lose all they have. I see it nearly everyday people who worked hard all their lives losing everything because of a catastrophic illness, disease or accident.

Hospital ER care is the most expensive and accounts for much of the financial condition of our hospitals. Also, they only have to care for the immediate problem not the underlying cause. Give blood pressure pill for high blood pressure and script send home. They will be back with stroke, heart attack etc caused by high BP. Not cost efficient and one reason our life expectancy is relatively low

A REASON for optimism
Bloggers like this are the reason for optimism. They highlight the idiocy of Obama's ideas. http://theblacksphere.net/site/obamacare-america-gets-new- proctologist/

Damn Gunny..
...you ran Hal off. He was firing his little pea-shooter and you open up with the friggin howitzer!

It's more fun if you draw him out of his hole a little and watch him step on his d*ck a few times...then you can blast him with the big guns.

Hal says:
****Sure they are fine with it BUT at the same time they think everyone should have healthcare. Check the polls****

But very few people want the government to run healthcare. It's a recipe for disaster, and there are many examples to show just how awful universal health care is.

The fact is, Hal, there just ain't enough money for the government to pay for everyone's medical treatment, both routine and severe. There's only going to be so much money to go around, which means a lot of people are going to be told they either won't get treatment or they're going to have to go on a long waiting list for whatever procedure they need.

Under that system, it's the rich who will get the most consideration and the best care, because such a system breeds corruption, and those that have the money to "give incentives" will receive faster treatment and better care.

Happy Tuesday all
The comical state of our nation hurts me. I can fully understand why Liberals, Moderates and some Republicans (me included) hated the way Bush ran things the last 1/2 of his term BUT at least some were smart enough not to vote for this clown Obama who is 1000 time worse.

The bottom line it THIS, it doesnt MATTER WHO is lying or telling the truth on this moronic healthcare initiative because WE DONT HAVE THE F-ING MONEY TO DO IT! Do you liberals understand this????????? I cant believe how many idiots are crowing to rush this stupid bill through with little to no thought on how it could totally ruin us.

Curtal Friar
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 9:13 AM EST
Hal says:
****Sure they are fine with it BUT at the same time they think everyone should have healthcare. Check the polls****

But very few people want the government to run healthcare. It's a recipe for disaster, and there are many examples to show just how awful universal health care is..."

But you confuse universal with government. There is no reason it cannot be both. Right now what we have simply does not work ask any doctor

"...The fact is, Hal, there just ain't enough money for the government to pay for everyone's medical treatment, both routine and severe..."

Actually we cannot afford not to do so. The current system makes our companies and people less competitive. Heck even now we are going abroad for medical treatment in ever larger numbers

"...There's only going to be so much money to go around, which means a lot of people are going to be told they either won't get treatment or they're going to have to go on a long waiting list for whatever procedure they need."

Have you been in an ER lately? Have you heard of per auth required? You know that is where a low wage employee of an insurance company with little or no medical training decides if you can have medical treatment and medication in far too many cases.

"...Under that system, it's the rich who will get the most consideration and the best care, because such a system breeds corruption, and those that have the money to "give incentives" will receive faster treatment and better care."

and now who gets the most consideration and the best care? LOL You are naive

Hal
Our system does work.

I am not rich, by any means, yet I have no problems with my healthcare.

Remember, Hal, 73% of those that were polled are satisfied with healthcare just the way it is. Sounds to me like it's working just fine.

Let me ask you a question, Hal. In your opinion, how much money do you think an American needs to earn in order to get quality healthcare?

Obama the fool!
Mr. Obama is a lying fool who will follow his ideology to it's destructive ends. If left to his own devices he'll destroy this nation. It is both wonderful and terrible to see him fail because as he fails, so to does this once great nation.

Remember the brilliance..
of the woman gushing on TV that Obama was going to pay her mortgage and car payments and he would take care of her?? Yup, that is the hope and change she was looking for. Is that indicative of those that voted for Obama? I find that most did NOT look past the "change" and having their hands out - still to this day, no change as they do not read or even listen to the news - dumb down America - further yet. So sad!!

More opinion stated as fact by Hal:
"Actually we cannot afford not to do so. The current system makes our companies and people less competitive. Heck even now we are going abroad for medical treatment in ever larger numbers"
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The slippery slope to pure socialism is revealed in Hal's first sentence. It is straight out of the Marxist Handbook, because the only way to "afford" this mammoth government takeover is ever increasing taxes.

If Hal is so concerned with being "competitive", he should have learned long ago that increasing the tax burden, both personal and especially corporate, is the exact opposite of what should be done.

As noted yesterday, you can hardly go wrong by betting on the opposite of what Hal calls "facts" and his recommendations and solutions to our ills.

Please Hal - even YOU ought to start being embarrassed by what you write.

Hal, the REREMF Lying Doofasss
How do you expect to pay for all the programs and debt Obumf^ck and the Dumbsh1tcraps are running up?

And don't give me your usual bullsh1t obsfucations, deflections, and prevarications.

Also, with the Treasury printing money like Parker Brothers for Monopoly, what will you and Obumf^ck and the Dumbsh1tcraps tell the people when hyperinflation, ala Weimar, sets in?

When they get up off their knees!!!
The only point at which we can even think about becoming optomistic about America being saved from this neo-Marxist regime will be on the day we start to see these DumboCrapheaded minions release their liplocks from ElMessiah's manhood and begin to get up off their knees.

This is the point at which I will start getting a bit more optomistic...

Optimism!
We have black conservatives coming out of the woodwork, and here is one who is a MUST read! http://www.theblacksphere.net!

Hal
You keep spewing your ideological rant about how we can't afford to not spend money for universal health care, but you have yet to answer what everyone keeps asking you.

So, let me try again.

Hal, exactly where will we get the money to pay for the massive costs of Universal Health Care?

They're already estimating that it will cost 1 - 2 trillion dollars, and that won't even cover 40% of the population.

2nd question: Do you really feel it's a good idea to put the poor in a situation where they are told they won't get any medical coverage cause there's a six month to a year waiting list for the procedure they need?

How Did The Turtle Cross The Road?

Or send stimulus checks to 10,000 dead people?

Or why no other country is willing to loan the United States one Wilsonian dime?

Or pay for health care when we do NOT have enough doctors?

Or tax the "rich", who are no longer rich?

Or explain why Nethanayu is on the side of Iranian protesters?

Or why Obama has stated that we are BROKE?

Or why Biden is on Auto-Pilot?

Or why the Federal Reserve refuses to be audited?

Your Liberalism/Progressivism is killing the patient, America.


It is time for another REVOLUTION or FORT SUMTER.

Optomism indeed!
I saw the same Rasmussen polls yesterday and came to the same conclusions. The cracks in the facade are beginning to show and we need to hammer away at them until the Obaminator is exposed for the leftist tyrant that he is.

IN AMERICA, JULY 4, 2009

The analogies are endless…

Yes, the analogies are endless and I love them because they are true reflections of the virtues of what is GOOD and what is BAD. In politics, as in sports the GOOD and BAD come into clear focus in the extremes. Yet, in politics the playing field is manipulated from outside by those with a self-serving desire for influence and power that has corrupted our institutions to the point of no return; unless WE THE PEOPLE make sure that the playing field is not manipulated.

The question is…How do we accomplish this? (1) Your VOTE…does count…yet your vote is easily manipulated by those with the self-serving desire for influence and power. (2) Your right to petition governments at all levels…yet this right has been severely restricted by those same self-serving individuals and groups.

What is the answer?...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

http://incongress.blogtownhall.com/

Universal healthcare
I can tell you right now,that it won't be free.Medicare is not free.If you have to go to the hospital,medicare only pays a portion of your bill.If you don't have supplemental insurance you will be stuck with a big bill.Medicare deducts so much a month from your S.S.combine that with you supplemental insurance and you come up with a pretty good sum of money.Here in Iowa you can buy insrance for a child for ten bucks a month,two or more costs twenty,plus there are free clinics.

Curtal Friar
re: "...exactly where will we get the money to pay for the massive costs of Universal Health Care?"

You silly wabbit...haven't you been listening to the Messiah? We will simply levy more taxes on the rich. Anyone who makes more than $1,000,000 per year - oops, I mean $250,000 - oops again, I mean $100,000 (subject to change) will simply pay two trillion dollars more in taxes.

It's very simple mathh...if everyone who makes $100K per year will just pay an additional $300K per year in taxes, the Obama plan will pay for itself!

Damn Curtal, do I have to explain everything to you?

healthcare
After all is said and done there will be hundreds of thousands of people that will still have there own insurance.Rich people,govt. employees,union members in some cases.Veterans that can go to the V.A. doctors and hospitals.

Hal and his fiction...
"Have you been in an ER lately? Have you heard of per auth required?"

I recently went to an ER and I don't see your point at all. As for the rest of your idiotic comment, "...per auth required" Do you mean pre-certification? If so, your feeble attempt at suggesting emergencies requiring pre-certification, you are simply making things up. There is no pre-cert. requirement for emergency treatment. You may be required to notify your insurance company that you are at an emergency facility for an emergency, however, that is not a pre-certification, and it can be handled by staff or a family member. Pre-certification only prevents unnecessary tests and helps reduce costs by getting second opinions.

Show some statistical fact for your ridiculous claim regarding,
"...more Americans going abroad."
Perhaps more illegals are being returned abroad after being discovered in an emergency room seeking free non-emergency health care. That would be more believable.

Face it Hal you're just a sleazy, coveteous individual who likes the idea of getting something for nothing from doctors, producers and politicians. You are merely the product of envy, greed and coveteousness. There is no right to health insurance.

BARRY THE BOY BLUNDER
had to surrender to the humidity on Tuesday!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/24078.html

BWHAHAHAHAHA!

Isn't the humidity of Kenya, Indonesia, and Hawaii WORSE?

The humidity in DC was 70%.

Kenya was 85% on Tuesday.
Indonesia was averaging 70% on Tuesday.
Hawaii was 66% on Tuesday.

Awww, poor Barry, the humidity was too much for him.

Hey libs, did Bush ever submit to the humidity or did he just MAN UP!?

Barry Soetoro = Lib Metrosexual pantywaist.

Icedog
Don't worry, the lying troll REMF will return, like a wicked case of the runs.

It is more fun but when the limp noodle bloviates too much, he fills the entire site with hot air and CO2.

I was merely thinking of Gaia and one day getting an award from Al Wh0re, oops, Al Gore.

Limbaugh and Sowell
talk about polling data and how it seems to be favoring Reublicans, yet we still seem to have a Democrat controlled central government. unless and until the RNC and the state and local party people give us someone we can vote for without holding our noses, all of the polling data in the world won't make any difference.

The Republican party has to get its head out of its a** and realize that the polling data that show that there is a greater number of conservatives than there are of liberals is a number that hasn't changed over the years, but that those conservatives are not going to rush to the polling place to vote for McCain's, Specters, Lindsey Grahams; and Snow and Collins look alikes.

Give us a clear choice and we will flock to the polls and support a real conservative, but they had better follow through, unlike the 1994 bunch did,or we will see conservatives once again looking for a new party or not voting at all.

THIS JUST IN
Comrade Barry votes "present" on Iran.

White House press secretary says U.S. doesn't want to become 'political football' during bloody Iran crackdown.

Evidently Muslim Barry doesn't want to anger his Imams in Iran by calling them out.

How do you spell Obama?

S. I. S. S. Y.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/23/white-house-obam a-plan-alter-tone-iran-protests/

LIGHTWEIGHT!


Limbaugh Praying for failure...
if one goes to real clear politics.com on would
that out of an average of 8 or more major polls Prez Obama is at a near 60% average approval rating. Yes, Mr. Limbaugh the only people that are losing support for prez obama are right wing republicans and that is to be expected.

The reality of being the MINORTY PARTY in the U.S. Congress's both houses and NOT in control of the white house is starting to really sink in for the gop'ers..they are also staring down the barrel of a fillibuster proof 60 vote supermajority for the dems with sen. specter switching to the dems and al franken about to be seated in the u.s. senate.

all this means mr. limbaugh is that the dems can literally pass any legislation they want without a single republican vote...

GunnyG

Do not forget New Orleans.

The humidty is a biatch and the temperature index is projected to be over 100 degrees.

ANOTHER LIB TRAGEDY
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/06/scotus_lets_pla me_suit_die.html

The Dynamic Dimwits Joe and Val take a heat seeker up the tailpipe from SCOTUS!

Ahhh, the poor wh*res could not make any more money off of a non-issue. Maybe they can sell their movie rights to Mikey Mooreon for another crockumentary we can all ignore.

Pray Obama Fails to Print More Money
Pray Obama Fails to nationalize auto. Pray Obama fails to nationalize healthcare. Pray that Obama fails to nationalize the banks.

Left Angle
all this means mr. limbaugh is that the dems can literally pass any legislation they want without a single republican vote...

You got that right. And f-d up laws, legislation, deficits, etc, passed by YOUR PARTY is OWED by your party. Nice 1.9 TRILLION dollar deficit your boy signed this year.

Thanks for finally admitting it. You over your BDS yet?

Denise
Heat index here is projected to be 103*

GOBSMACK HIS PURBLIND VISION.
"Every indication is that he is a stubborn ideologue ill-suited to make policy adjustments when reality continues to gobsmack his purblind vision."

An excellent description of Obama's reality.

The inexperienced, community organizer, "God Damn America", weak, Muslim, inelligble, Bush bashing, racist, lying, Spread the Wealth Around President is begining to show his lack of ability to be President of the United States of America.

I believe Obama missed one of Lincoln's most famous quotes: "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time".

The veneer is wearing thin, Mr. President. Do you think Rahm Emanuel, Nancy Pelosi, George Soros, Barney Frank, Harry Reid, ACORN and Eric Holder can keep you propped up for 3 more years? It is not going to be pretty unless you change what you are doing to this country, because real Americans have had enough. We are 'a coming !



Let's All Pray that Obama Fails
until he actually does something that makes sense.

WAKE UP!
I would bet O is worried about the people hitting the streets of USA!! I cannot understand how people can give up their freedoms so easily. Could be their parents gave up first. Unfortunately just as the military protects us and these idiots don't appreciate it, we conservatives will be the people to SAVE the kool-aid drinkers. You can give them the facts but they do not hear what you are saying. They react the same way when you explain killing a baby at full term is murder. Don't give up WE WILL TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!! In the streets if necessary.

carlos writes
Let's All Pray that Obama Fails
until he actually does something that makes sense.

Which won't happen until hell freezes over, and Satan skates on the ice.

Mr. Limbaugh
I really do wish I had the same pair of rose colored glasses you wear. I am trying hard, but as I watch the FDA suit up to destroy another hated Industry in America and cost thousands of People their jobs, I just can't find that hopeful moment. You can read the comments from the Liberal Socialist on this article, and see that the "Ton of Bricks" theory is not working.
Well, you know, maybe I could be hopeful,if the McDonald's Food Chain is next on the Liberals and Moderates Hit List to protect the Obese (Any One Not Deemed Skinny;Lanky;Fit;Like The President)from themselves. You see the Children will be "Outraged" then, and we all know how much the Liberals and Moderates in Congress Love The Children. I am sure $25.00 Hamburgers, $10.00 Regular Fries, and more lost jobs will do the trick. The Death of Supersize Me.

Icedog
LOL

Thanks for the explanation. Everything is so much clearer now.

I finally understand the brilliance of the left's plan to provide free health care for everyone.

THIS JUST IN
Comrade Barry sends in FWOTUS (First Wookie of the United States) to run screen.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/story?id=7882279&page=1

Fear factor among lib metrosexuals at an all time high!

Dig deep
And the crime of this fraud Obama is will be exposed to all Americans.

he has covered up his true identity and there is nothing real about the image the press has created around this man.

Dig for information that exposes him for the lying fraud he is.

quote:

Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?

A: Yes, by his own admission.

Q: What passport did he travel
under?

A: There are only three possibilities. 1. He traveled with a U.S. Passport, 2) He traveled with a British passport, or 3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

Q: Is it possible that UHbama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?

A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's "no travel" list in 1981.

When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

Author freedomfighter4theplanet

http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/7004-4049

Left Angle
It may be that a few Democrats, realizing that it will be hard to blame Republicans for the chaos that results from Obama's HopeandChange, will decline to sign America's death warrant.

Most of them are too dumb and power-hungry to care, but some of them are not.

AuHunter
You fail to remember that the 1994 Republicans did an excellent job of keeping their promises and keeping Clinton from bankrupting the country.

Unfortunately, proving the adage that "power corrupts," even that bunch eventually succumbed to the lure of sooooooo much money to play with and so much power, too.

It's possible they've learned their lessen. More likely, not. Looks like only the voters can implement term limits, but good luck defeating the incumbents, who can bring home bacon more easily than the new guy can.

But we have to try.

SFA1973
Rational people like us clearly want him to fail at wasting our money. The stimulus and GM bailout says are exibit A and exhibit B.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO PAY FOR IT?
Telling, how the left ranted this phrase every time a Republican came up with a new bill.

Now that SuperBarry is in town, the question is relegated to history. Barry told us there is no money in the bank, but don't sweat the details. It's time to spend, spend, spend!

GunnyG-CurtalFriar-SFA1973-MPaddy-Others
BTW have you noticed how AGITATED Liberals are lately? Bob Beckel was outright HOSTILE on Hannity last night. I saw a clip of Bill Maher’s show where they had a panel discussion. Meghan McCain was the Conservative (?) Voice and Paul Begala and 3 other Libfags were the Liberal Voices. I am no fan of Meghan McCain, but Begala was OVER the line in the way he addressed her. One of Meghan’s jarhead brothers needs to punch Begala RIGHT IN THE MOUTH! SOMETHING has the Obamadrones all FIRED UP! WHAT is it that they know that we DON’T? Be careful of getting an Obamafag agitated. You could have your hair pulled, your face scratched and he could hit you with his purse.
The bottom line is that Americans are waking up from their Kool-Aid Hangovers and RECOILING IN HORROR at who they wake up next too. Think of the old Willie Nelson classic, “I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2”. Barry’s numbers are dropping slow but steady. Think of a BIG herd of cows stampeding. It takes a while for the whole herd to get in motion. Soon the only people left on Barry’s side will be the folks like Hal Drunkahue and Lithium Dangle and other TRULY STUPID Delusional Dimwits who REPEATEDLY say the same things OVER and OVER and OVER.

Polly
Click on my name to read my blog. I'm ripping on the GOP today and forwarded it to Steele. Feel free to do the same.

The way to reclaim our inheritance
is to not wait around for the GOP to take charge. They are as corrupt as the Dems, and both parties are committed to a One World Government agenda.

If we intend to restore Constitutional self government, we are going to have to act on our own. How? Actually, it is quite simple.

Get together with family and friends, organize an election committee, and RUN FOR OFFICE. It can be done easily..

"We the People" must act and ignore the elites of both corrupt major parties. There is no future for freedom in either of the two majors. This is our country, we are the rightful owners, and if we fail to do what we should, the future we pass on to our kids and grandkids will be a disaster.

You can do it! Get organized, get moving, and run! There is still time before the 2010 elections. We cannot leave the future to the elites!

THIS JUST IN!
Barry Soetoro NO LONGER POTUS.

He is now the POUTUS!

Surrendering to the humidity indeed.

Pantywaist.

Full speed ahead!
The liberal agenda is stalled at the gates. Health care is going down, cap-and-trade is going down, and financial overhaul will get gutted before all is said and done.

The social conservatives are curling up helplessly in a fetal position and wailing that the end of days is coming because the most daaaaangerous soooocialist ever is now in office. That's what they do--become useless in a crisis. Passivity and hopelessness are inherent to their belief system. Us laissez-faire types will do the heavy lifting in term of stopping his agenda and setting things right. Yes we can, and we will.

actually wendy

obama may be occupying the seat of POTUS, but until he proves he is eligible to occupy the seat he is nothing more than a very successful conman.

No American citizen could deliberately do the things he has done to America.

Attention: Environmental bill
The cap-and-trade bill comes up for vote in the House on Friday. It's called the Waxman-Markey bill. It is ruffling some serious feathers not only with the GOP but with Democrats who represent farm states. That is because they feel the bill does not give them enough in the way of permits for the non-profit utilities that serve rural areas, and in addition, it does not offer farmers enough in the way of credits for their soil management techniques that are labeled as "green."

This is an opportunity to contact your Congressman and tell him/her to oppose the bill on Friday, especially if you are in a farm state and have a Representative who is a Democrat.

Is any one...
...really surprised???

Prez Obama wanted the TITLE of "President".

He didn't actually want the JOB that comes with it.

eddie too
as talent scout pointed out, the Schmuck in Chief has had several different passports! I wonder which birth certificate he used, the one from Kenya, the one from Indonesia, or the fake one from Hawaii?

YLG
And considering his history of title grabbing and doing NOTHING while there, i.e., Prez of the Harvard Law Journal where he wrote NOTHING in TWO YEARS, this came as no surprise to us! In fact, I blogged it BEFORE the election. Only the libretards are surprised, then dumfounded, then dismayed, now angry.

"WE WUZ LIED TO!"

(being right all of the times SUCKS!)

YLG
So why didn't he become President of the Board of Elders at the Unreverend Wright's "church?"

That's how I feel, too...
I see a slow but steady decline in support for his massive spending programs and huge growth of big government. I also think the average citizen is getting fed up with unions and other special interest groups getting their "payback" from the POTUS for financially supporting him in the campaign. Most conservatives could see old style corrupt Chicago politics at work all along, but some independents, I believe, are starting to see the corrupt writing on the wall and are sorry for their votes.

GunnyG
"(being right all of the times SUCKS!)"

Almost as much as sleeping with Michelle Obama every night would.

Georgetwin
You think the Ultra Libbies are pissy NOW? Just give this whole circus time to play out. This administration is going to implode and when the MEDIA (NBC/CBS etc) finds they will no longer have ANY viewers for thier advertisers they will DUMP Obama like the corrupt, inept Chicago trash he is.

I dont think its going to take 2 yrs but it WILL happen because $$MONEY$$ rules all, even ideology.

Georgetwin
FIRST WOOKIE!

Ugh. She's a bit more than Coyote ugly.

HOW LIBSTAINS WORK
They forced the cancellation of the Atlanta Tea Party on Independence Day.

How you ask? Why, follow the money.

1. Gwinnett Place Mall shut down the Atlanta Tea Party.

2. Simon Property Group owns Gwinnett Place Mall.

3. Melvin Simon (a Forbes 400 billionaire) is Co-chairman of Simon Property Group, Inc.
Melvin Simon has provided large political contributions to Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Al Franken, John Edwards, the DNC and many other Democrats and Democrat organizations.

4. Melvin Simon was a major contributor to Barack Obama inaugural committee and has given at least $1 million to the William J. Clinton foundation.

5. Melvin's wife, Bren, personally donated almost $100,000 to various political candidates, was a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton's presidential bid, and contributed to President Obama's inaugural committee.

http://www.atlantateaparty.net/2009/06/atlanta-tea-party-fo rced-to-cancel.html

The truth hurts libs.

Y'all in Atlanta, come on up to DC.

Thomas
Labor Day at the latest for a Liberal FLAMEOUT!

GunnyG
About Weezie the Wookie Obama

On Sunday, President Obama flew back to the United States on Air Force One. His wife, two daughters and her mother did a bit of shopping in Paris before taking their own Boeing 757 (C-32) over to London to do some sight seeing.
We all remember Obama’s admonishment to corporate CEO’s in February:

“You can’t get corporate jets, you can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers dime.”

Apparently that doesn’t apply to his wife.
The London Times opened it’s description of Michelle’s visit this way:

Motorcycle outriders, armoured Chevrolets and bullet-headed men in raincoats criss-crossed London yesterday as Michelle Obama and her daughters spent a second day on an unofficial visit to the capital.

The Times went on to describe that when Michelle and the girls arrived at Westminster Abbey, the building was closed to tourists with people already in told to “wait against the wall.” An American visiting the Abbey said “Right then I knew it was probably someone from our ‘royal family’.”

Michelle’s motorcade shut down the London street above as the First Lady of the World and her children go for Fish and Chips at a pub in Mayfair. The entourage inside the restaurant was 15 people while dozens more wait outside. Include the dozens of Air Force personnel to fly and service the plane, embassy personnel and other staff and we are talking about a serious expenditure of tax payer dollars.
Meanwhile, millions of Americans have lost their jobs and won’t be able to take their family on a summer holiday. Despite their circumstances they’ll still be expected to fork over the tax dollars to pay for Michelle’s trip!

Thomas
They Lapdog media is already HITTING zero.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/evening_news_ratings/ne w_alltime_lows_for_both_cbs_abc_evening_newscasts_119684.as p

Man, I LOVE bad news for libs. Hearing them crying is such sweet music.

Georgetwin
What a joke POUTUS and FWOTUS are. I cheer them ONWARD! The more they act like the spoiled A**HATS they are, the better for us.

Bleak future
So long as we fail to use vouchers to destroy the virtual monopoly of our socialist (government owned) schools, the long range prospects for America remain bleak.

As Charles Darwin should have said, "Unconstitutional (illegal) government schools are not the fittest and need the protection of a monopoly in order to survive."

Georgetwin
I waiting for the libretards to defend their boy on this!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/23/state-department -iranian-diplomats-welcome-july-parties/

Comrade Barry's diplomacy plan is now referred to as "hot Dog" diplomacy.

Truly he is an idiot.

Hal
Funny, when I was reading all the smackdowns on Hal, I had this mental image of one of those clowns with the weighted bottoms. You know the one, you smack it in the face and it falls over, only to bounce back up and get smacked again. Hal is just as persistent and intelligent.
LMAO

Gunny
Can you do better?

Wendy
I am a social conservative, as well as fiscal, political, judicial, defense and all other conservative. I take offence at your statement that social conservatives "curl up in a ball" at every crisis. I am in constant grassroots action against Nobama and the Progressives in congress. So shove it up your non-conservative a$$. You're just one more RINO screwinbg up the works. If your not conservative about it all, you're not conservative at all.

Media
I actually agree pretty significantly with the article, but the main point here is the media's overwhelming fawning of Obama. Without them and their disgusting infatuation with him, he might actually read something (I believe he's a pretty smart guy) that would give him reason to make course adjustments. However, since he appears to be a liberal's liberal, he seems to get all his information from typical liberal sources which all agree with what he's doing. Hence, the fawning media, which was the source of his successful run for the presidency, will ultimately be his downfall.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
JMHO

Randy
"Funny, when I was reading all the smackdowns on Hal, I had this mental image of one of those clowns with the weighted bottoms. You know the one, you smack it in the face and it falls over, only to bounce back up and get smacked again. Hal is just as persistent and intelligent.
LMAO

ROFLMAO..That was classic...

Parker
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 10:31 AM EST
Hal and his fiction...
"Have you been in an ER lately? Have you heard of per auth required?"

I recently went to an ER and I don't see your point at all. As for the rest of your idiotic comment, "...per auth required" Do you mean pre-certification? If so, your feeble attempt at suggesting emergencies requiring pre-certification, you are simply making things up. There is no pre-cert. requirement for emergency treatment. You may be required to notify your insurance company that you are at an emergency facility for an emergency, however, that is not a pre-certification, and it can be handled by staff or a family member. Pre-certification only prevents unnecessary tests and helps reduce costs by getting second opinions."

Thanks for pointing out the proper language ER treatments do not require pre-cert beyond immediate emergency treatment everything else may well do whether surgery or medication. The people making that decision overriding a doctor's judgment are generally low wage employees or contractors even with little medical education at all. Guess what? It is a lot more difficult to seek redress from a government than a private company.

"...Show some statistical fact for your ridiculous claim regarding,
"...more Americans going abroad."..."

Google medical tourism for a start. Even medical outfits like Kaiser Permanente are sending some clients abroad for treatment. Nearly one million last year and growing everyday

"...Face it Hal you're just a sleazy, coveteous individual who likes the idea of getting something for nothing from doctors, producers and politicians. You are merely the product of envy, greed and coveteousness. There is no right to health insurance."

Actually not true at all I have healthcare that you pay for thank you. Everyone should have healthcare or we all pay.

Jason
My 13 year old son had more executive level experience than Blowbama did in November.

And seeing as how I ran my own shop of up to 50 Marines, did global ops with them, was a Direcotr of Security for a 500+ employee company with people on 4 continents, yeah, I could.

Hell, I was a platoon sgt as a Sgt and a Platoon Cdmr (normally a 2d LT's job) as a SSgt.

But hey, your boy once THOUGHT about joining the service. Probably a passing thought in a dope induced trip.

Admit it, the con man...conned y'all.

Curtal Friar
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 10:07 AM EST
Hal
You keep spewing your ideological rant about how we can't afford to not spend money for universal health care, but you have yet to answer what everyone keeps asking you.

So, let me try again.

Hal, exactly where will we get the money to pay for the massive costs of Universal Health Care?..."

Taxes if necessary. But at the end of the day it should cost all of us less. Right now we pay FOR more for FAR less results. The private sector failed here.

"...2nd question: Do you really feel it's a good idea to put the poor in a situation where they are told they won't get any medical coverage cause there's a six month to a year waiting list for the procedure they need?"

They are there now with no doctor who will see them and the high cost ER the only source of emergency care. Do you have a clue how many folks are running around not taking needed medicines and will show up in the ER with far more serious conditions in the future.

It Is OUR House

Obama only lives there.

The daily press conference, basically, called out Obama on his spending, borrowing, health care, foreign policy, tax spending, arrogance and more. It was not pretty.

When Obama knocks the Far Left reporter Chuck Todd for INSUBORDINANCE, then you know that the bloom is off of rose.

Maine is passing an across the board tax cut.

Vermont wants to secede.

Obama is not a King, but he does know IRE.

Ouck Obama

HILARIOUS
Check this out.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0609/Obama_c alls_on_HuffPost_for_Iran_question.html

My GOD! This circus just gets better and better!

Dopey: "Hey Lapdog, ask me a direct question on Iran."

Lapdog: "Oh Messiah, I would like to ask you a direct question on Iran..."

Randy
FUNNY!

No doubt Old Leadbottom Hal IS really pear shaped. Small head, fat a**

St. Denis In Obama's Red America
Vermont wants to secede.

Hmmm. Can Ol Virginny be far behind? Or Texas?

Trouble in Obammi's crib.

Ha, the REREMF Lying Doofasss
MY SIL is scared to death of nationalized healthcare. She is 62, legally blind, and has MS and Type I Diabetes, and knows some government health care rationing bureaucrap will deny her treatment in order to foster efficiency, and cut costs. THe rationing board is already approved, and is starting up.

SFA1973
Hal should be scared as h*ll! Alcoholics don't rate care under the Soviet style of health care coming. Just free vodka to drink themselves to death.

GuunyG
No doubt Old Leadbottom Hal IS really pear shaped. Small head, fat a**

Must be why he is always "LMAO". Maybe he is trying to get into "fighting" shape. Sorry, my bad. Some things just aren't possible.

Social-conservatives????
Why do you think they call it the "right"?
Location: CT
Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 1:52 PM EST Wendy
I am a social conservative, as well as fiscal, political, judicial, defense and all other conservative. I take offence at your statement that social conservatives "curl up in a ball" at every crisis. I am in constant grassroots action against Nobama and the Progressives in congress. So shove it up your non-conservative a$$. You're just one more RINO screwinbg up the works. If your not conservative about it all, you're not conservative at all.
====================================

Excellent points you make WDYTTCIT "right"?.

I ask Wendy just yesterday what kind of ultra-high velocity whacky weed she smoking up there in Washington.

I went on to explain to her how she was more than welcome to insert her hyphenated-conservatism in her same orifice that G.W. Bush keeps his, "compassionate-"conservatism harbored.

BTW: Like you, I'm just a plain old American conservative. No hyphens will be donned with either my Americanism, or my conservatism.

People are starting to wake up
Only those who are complete party bias or as far left as Obama are still supporting his policies, everyone else in the country is starting to wake up. They may like the person Obama, but they don't agree with his policies or his leadership capabilities.

Randy
Hal, the REREMF Lying Doofasss, could LHAO from now til 100,000,009 A.D., and he'd still have massive huge larda**.

GunnyG
From Ankle Grabbing Diplomacy to Weinie Diplomacy, I bet will and other NAMBLA types are DROOLING ;). Those 2, Weezie & Weinie Obama, DESERVE each other.

Let the young and the old die!!!
SFA1973 ============== Location: TX
Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 2:52 PM EST Ha, the REREMF Lying Doofasss
MY SIL is scared to death of nationalized healthcare. She is 62, legally blind, and has MS and Type I Diabetes, and knows some government health care rationing bureaucrap will deny her treatment in order to foster efficiency, and cut costs. THe rationing board is already approved, and is starting up.
====================================

Yeap, my 84 year old mother who's in very good shape has already started the process to try and get her two knees replaced before NObama's baby butchering suckbuddies are given control of the national healthcare rationing board begin denying such surgery solely do to her age.

GunnyG

Evidently, the Obama Ad. is disregarding both the news and the polls at its 6:30 PM daily meeting.

Yes, the "crib" was recalled by China.

Q: Why did the Democrats give $10bn to tobacco farmers when Obama signs a cigarette bill?

Matt
You should read the comments from the libturds on my link to politco as they explain away their messiah voting "present" on Iran.

What a hoot.

Hal

Don't you just love Obama's purple lips and Michelle's biceps?

Heck, I think that you are up both rear ends.

89% happy with health care...

"ABC News//Kaiser Family Foundation/USA Today survey indicates that 89 percent of Americans are satisfied with their health care."


Yet doofuss still maintains, "... the vast majority of America wants universal healthcare..."


Poor doofuss...



SFA1973
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 2:52 PM EST
Ha, the REREMF Lying Doofasss
MY SIL is scared to death of nationalized healthcare. She is 62, legally blind, and has MS and Type I Diabetes, and knows some government health care rationing bureaucrap will deny her treatment in order to foster efficiency, and cut costs. THe rationing board is already approved, and is starting up."

LOL Hmmm even the UK with its, to hear it here, terrible healthcare does better. My good friend has type 4 MS. She has home care, doctor's home visits, a specially tailored vehicle so she can still drive, an electric little wheelchair type thing, a stair lift and meds all paid mostly by national health. Your SIL should pray for some form of universal healthcare. The reason European life expectancy is higher is that they don't slice and dice their old people for no good reason. Right now if your SIL has insurance there is more than likely some low wage employee or contractor deciding what she can have not her doc

One of the reasons for the Obama slide

Some Liberals are becoming afraid, that all of these jobs Barack Obama is promising to create, might mean they may have to work.

Obamunists want ObamaCare for Cancer

Obamunists want ObamaCare for Cancer Patients.

"WAITING times for cancer treatment need to be cut, the Scottish Government was told yesterday.

The Scotland Against Cancer conference in Glasgow heard Nicola Sturgeon, the health secretary, setting out what was being done to improve cancer care for Scottish patients.

But one cancer survivor, who spoke at the Cancer Research UK event, challenged ministers to be more ambitious in reducing the time patients have to wait before starting treatment.

Cancer experts later said that patients elsewhere in Europe would be "outraged" by having to wait two months to start treatment, with most being seen within two weeks.

The current target of 62 days from urgent referral by a doctor to starting treatment has still not been met in Scotland, despite that originally being the target figure for 2005.

Ms Sturgeon stressed that the 62-day target was a maximum wait and many patients would start treatment much sooner.

Heather Goodare, who was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1986 when living in West Sussex, thanked Ms Sturgeon for the initiatives she had put in place to improve cancer care. But she challenged her over the "very unambitious" 62-day target.

"For some slow-growing cancers 31 days is perfectly OK, but for others it is just not acceptable at all," she told the health secretary.

Mrs Goodare, who now lives in Edinburgh, said when she was diagnosed over 22 years ago, she had to wait only two weeks before having surgery to remove the lump from her breast.

"I don't understand why things have gone backwards," she said.

Ms Sturgeon said everyone in the NHS had worked together to reduce waiting times and they were now very close to hitting the 62-day mark."


doofuss is still making things up

as he goes along.

"Video Clip: Daniel Hannan on UK Health Care"

Video Clip of Daniel Hannan, a UK Member of European Parliament discussing the Disaster of Universal Health Care in Great Britain:

http://www.westandfirm.org/blog/2009/04/hannan-on-uk-health -care.html




Get that doofuss? "DISASTER of Universal Health Care"




Anne
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 3:27 PM EST
89% happy with health care...

"ABC News//Kaiser Family Foundation/USA Today survey indicates that 89 percent of Americans are satisfied with their health care."


Yet ... still maintains, "... the vast majority of America wants universal healthcare..."

The question is should everyone have health insurance and care. No one has to give up their health insurance for universal coverage

Liberalism = Ed McMahon

When it comes to economics.

Keep You Eye On The Ball
Whenever someone says they have a solution to the problems with healthcare in this country, I would suggest you keep your eye on what is the most important factor. And that is inflation. The question is, whatever the proposed solution is, how will it affect medical inflation. Will it reduce medical inflation, do nothing to affect medical inflation, or will it make the chances of medical inflation even worse. And why is that important? Because what medical inflation means is what cost "x" dollars yesterday, will cost "x plus y" dollars tomorrow for the very same thing. And that means the cost of healthcare will increase. Which means that since someone is paying for our care, they have to figure out how to pay for that increase, or resort to force rationing. Then ask yourself what is a basic economics question. Can you effectively control prices when the user of the service is not the one making the rationing decision? Can you effectively control prices when the user of the service is not the one paying for the service? The answer is, I do not know how you can effectively control prices when the user of the service is not making the rationing decision. If someone knows how that can be done, I sure as heck would like to know how that can be done. So, think inflation.

HAL
Either you have your head up your rear,or you are a lousy commie!And to think you were in our military!

Gunny g
Just think they appointed another czar;If this isn't communism,I don't know what is!I wonder if TH will have one?

Anne in PA
"doofuss is still making things up"

He ain't the only one. Anyone seen this story?

NYT/CBS Stock Pro-Obamacare Poll With Obama Voters

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/06/21/nyt-c bs-stock-pro-obamacare-poll-obama-voters


HAL
I JUST FIGURED OUT WHAT LMAO is;Loser,maniac,as$
hole,Obamahue.

In defense of Rush Limbaugh
If Obama's game plan is to increase the public sector and nationalize industries - why would I want him to succeed at that? The criticism of Rush doesn't make sense.

ObamaRation for ObamaCare

It appears Barack Obama will 'Solve' the Economic problem in America by rationing Health Care for everyone.

If someone has an abscessed tooth - ObamaCare wants you to pull it yourself so that Obama can send funds to HAMAS and Hezbollah.

The National Health Care in the UK is 'Trying' to get the waiting period down to 15 weeks to see a Doctor for treatment, once you get sick - this will save money so Obama can give ObamaCare to those who refuse to work.

Barack Obama believes the 'Success' of his administration will be the 'Failure' of the American Health Care system.

Every poll I have seen
says Hal is lying - majority of American citizens do NOT want Universal Healthcare. I am not providing links - everyone here knows how to use google. It's just a fact. Another fact: you will NEVER in a million years change Hal's mind with logic. It just doesn't work that way. For details, refer to Ann Coulter's: How to talk to a Liberal (if you must).

STAN
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 4:16 PM EST
HAL
Either you have your head up your rear,or you are a lousy commie!And to think you were in our military!.."

Guess what reactionary I STILL carry a military ID card. You guys have damaged the country enough

David
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 4:39 PM EST
Every poll I have seen
says Hal is lying - majority of American citizens do NOT want Universal Healthcare. I am not providing links - everyone here knows how to use google. It's just a fact...."

I said the American people think everyone should have healthcare coverage and they think it by large margins. You evidently don't know how to use Google or you confuse coverage with mandatory government program. This is so classic conservative. do nothing; deny the problem; let it all collapse like you did the economy.

These are why we do not need
universal healthcare:

It would be cheaper to give each uninsured for one year a tax credit of %1600 for $86 billion, nowhere near $1.6-$3 TRILLIONS.

Health stats: c. 46,000,000 lack health insurance:
1) 70% of the uninsured are between ins.’s and do not lack coverage for a year.

2) 20% are illegals

3) 10% are chronically unemployable or homeless, or otherwise MIA socially (and that’s a high figure as the homeless have never come in above 3 million in any real count);

Of the above:
33% live in households earning over at least $50,000 a year and elect not to buy ins.
25% are between 18 and 35 and deliberately do not cover themselves. Their med. exp. average c. $1000 a year out of pocket.
34% are children eligible for Medicaid or SCHIPS, but are not registered. They can be treated for small or greater med. problems at any emergency room, which is what the uninsured usually elect to do.

The costs for 2009 for emergency room care for the uninsured was $1658 a person or $86 billion. BUT THAT’S A LOT CHEAPER THAN THE $1.6 TRILLION PROPOSED BY KING ELECT O AND MINIONS.

The Office of the Budget predicts BEST CASE $1.6 trillion, but John McCain says that cost will be minimally $3 TRILLION.

Regardless, with the $1 TRILLION stimulus and $1.6 TRILLION deficit, there is no money.

Overall it would be cheaper, less invasive of privacy, less crippling of America medical services just to give tax credits of $1600 to each uninsured for the usually one year they are uninsured.


renny
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 4:54 PM EST
These are why we do not need
universal healthcare:..."

Nice thought but you are paying for the care of each and everyone of those folks without coverage. That is why our hospitals are failing; the number one cause of bankruptcy is medical expenses; our ER's are swamped and the nation's healthcare system is near collapse. Paying like we are now doesn't work and costs far, far more than some type of universal coverage

Hal Donahue
"I said the American people think everyone should have healthcare coverage and they think it by large margins."

This is taken from the 6/12 NYT/CBS poll of 895 Americans: Of the respondents who identified who they voted for, 48% said Obama and 25% said McCain. That's ~ 65-33. That isn't even CLOSE to the election margin. Now ABC is pimping out their news department for an infomercial for Obamacare. Why the need to drum up support if Americans already 'by large margins' support it?

I'll be here for an hour/healthcare
Here are some fun facts about healthcare:

1) Medicare is derived from the same market as private sector healthcare, whose extra costs derive from misapplication of better technology and drugs, the payroll of hundreds of thousands of people who either find any discrepancies in your medical history or work for marketing, the over sized staff hospitals need to deal with the people who operate the bureaucratic waste in the health insurance industry, and profit. Hence it is the private sector health industry that drives up Medicare and not the other way around.

2) The savings from getting rid of the waste in the health insurance industry, by putting in single payer, that ranges from the marketing departments, billing departments, the people who try to find discrepancies in your paper work, the bureaucracies that deal with co-payments and deductibles, etc., will amount to hundreds of billions of dollars (current estimates are $350 billion). And private hospitals will break even by no longer needing oversized administrative staffs to deal with the massive bureaucratic niches in the health insurance industry.

3) Bush’s drug bill made drugs more expensive because it got rid of Medicare’s negotiation process that prevented price gouging in the pharmaceutical drug industry and in actuality was a handout to that particular industry.

4) American taxpayers already pay more to finance healthcare spending than the private sector does.

5) Even if the USA had zero homicides a year, our life expectancies would still be lower than they are in western European countries.

6) Western European countries have more doctors per capita than the U.S.

Prott??
Your post makes no sense whatsoever. Must be from some talking points by that infamous heroin-loving George Soros. (Why yes, he wants to legalize heroin usage for recreation, you didn't know?)
ANYTIME the govt gets involved in our private lives and steps outside the mandates of the Constitution, it spells trouble for Americans.
This 'healthcare' is just another grab for power by a chicago thug and his fellow gangsters.
Call your Congress people/Senators and tell them to wise up and vote no.
WE CAN DO IT BETTER OURSELVES.
For the illegals who voted for O and were promised free medical care...since that won't happen, now what do you do?

Donna
"Your post makes no sense whatsoever. Must be from some talking points by that infamous heroin-loving George Soros"

Well maybe it would make alot more sense to you if you opened your mind, instead of posting denials to facilitate your belief in your ideology.

Also I don't worship George Soros or know barely anything about him, accept that he funds left leaning causes.

A BIG HOUSE TOO!
Hal Donahue
"I said the American people think everyone should have healthcare coverage and they think it by large margins."


I would bet that the American people think that everyone should have a big house too and probably by a large margin also. So what does that have to do with the price of rice in China?

Donna: Didn't Prott threaten (promise)

to leave TH???





Mr. Limbaugh, I am not optimistic
Cautiously or otherwise, since the GOP chose the odious Sen. McCain for its "champion," and since the odious American electorate then chose that mystery wrapped in an enigma, Barack Obama or Barry Soetoro or whatever his real name is, to be the President of the United States, my "optimism" has waned to the lowest point ever in my adult life.

I no longer have the slightest faith that the Republicans are going to realize what it is they must do to regain their once lofty status, and after eight years of a Bush presidency that insulted my intelligence at every turn regarding domestic policy and the security of our borders, among other things, I have no faith that they have a clue.

We now have a GOP that is about as far to the left of center as the Democrats were in Reagan's day, and a Democrat party that approximates the Green Parties in Europe.

Where's my country? Based on it's "rulers" (as Obama's minions like to think of themselves), it has disappeared.

Anne
"Didn't Prott threaten (promise)

to leave TH???"

All I said was that I was going to be on here for an hour.

The next time you make a wise a$$ comment directed at me, that isn't for the sake of argument, I'm simply not going to respond to you, Anne.

Russ:"doofuss is still making things up"

I am confident that doofuss really believes 2+2=5

doofuss: "Nice thought but you are paying for the care of each and everyone of those folks without coverage. That is why our hospitals are failing; the number one cause of bankruptcy is medical expenses; our ER's are swamped and the nation's healthcare system is near collapse."

Actually, it's paying for medical care for ILLEGAL ALIENS that has caused "our hospitals to fail; the number one cause of bankruptcy is medical expenses; our ER's are swamped and the nation's healthcare system is near collapse."


doofuss is just confused.


Prott: Now that you mention it...

We ALL wish that you simply would not respond to us...

Which is why we ALL hoped that you really were leaving.


Obama, The Janus
He says that all people will get free health care, but he cannot.

He says that all those making under $95,000 will not pay taxes, but he lies.

He says that the US should not meddle in Iranian internal affairs, he is a moron and a young woman died buried alive.

He said that we should dialogue with North Korea, but they are ready to nuke Hawaii and Alaska.

He has begged communist China (which uses slave labor) for money, but was laughed at by the country.

He gave $150bn to the IMF, but Russia and Brazil have purchased gold.

He won Vermont, but they now want to secede.

Maine wants an across the board tax cut.

Texas says "Try It!"

Louisiana mandates a balanced budget.

Many states have passed the 10th and we ought to repeal the 16th.


He said that Global Warning is a crisis, but Fat Al Gore is unable to explain why New Jersey froze in June.

Obama Lied And People DIED.


Hal, have a few drinks!

Anne
Well I guess I'm just going to break my promise and respond to you then.

Also Anne, taxpayers already finance 60% of the $2 trillion of healthcare spending, and 80% of the uninsured are U.S. citiznes. Hence a couple million illegal immigrants that do exploit the healthcare system are only responsible for an extra $150 per person at most. So you're wrong and I'm out.

Reply to Prott in NY
Prott, you must be out of your mind. Believing that illegals are only costing about 150 dollars a person on health care. Where have you been the last 20 years or so. In California alone, in 2005, over 80 hospitals or clinics closed due to bankruptcy based entirely on the fact they were giving free medical services to non-citizens, otherwise known as Illegal Aliens.

In Idaho in the year, 2008, Illegal Aliens cost the Idaho tax payers over 400 million in social and medical costs.

And, to imagine that folks such as yourself, believe that 20 percent of our healthcare and other social services costs should go to Illegal Aliens, is acceptable. You must be a homegrown deadbeat on welfare if you have this sort of world view of the illegal alien situation.


Oh, I hope so!
How I hope, Mr. Limbaugh, that you are right!

Obama is a Serial Liar and Radical!!
There is only three things that you need to know about Barack Hussein Obama: (1) He is a Radical Marxist; (2) A tool of Radicalism is using the Big Lie--Obama is A Serial Liar; (3) Obama is a Self-Serving, Self-Loving Narcissist with Delusions of Grandeur.

Everything out of his mouth is a Lie and and if you do not believe the part about his Narcissism, listen to all the I and My statements he makes. He truly does envision himself The Leader of The World. He is The Leader of The World in His own Deluded Mind.

Greyhawk: I'm afraid your assessment

of Prott is pretty much spot on!

The 400 million in social and medical costs in Idaho in the year 2008 is only the tip of the iceberg.

Nationally the cost was $BILLIONS!


Greyhawk
The thing is, Obama could be leader of the world, simply by virtue of being the POTUS, but he is far too much of a self-deluded moron to have the understanding to do so.

I used to date a stripper in my idealistic days, thinking I could help her have a normal life. Obama has the exact same problem she did - they are so afraid of facing the fact that their lives and abilities do not mesh with their narcissistic delusions, that they are handicapped from any effective action, other than playing defense for their own weak egos.

I hope that made some sense....

Did I Forget?

Obama failed to address the ice storm in TN in March. People DIED.

Libs, Read Politico And Weep

http://www.politico.com/


The site is not Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, or any other "conservative" news source.

The honeymoon is so over.


Obama's Lapdog Media
Obama will use the pig liberal media and their phony polls in an attempt to pull him over the finish line. Whether he succeeds just depends on how stupid the American people really are.
Remember when any attempt to criticise the media would be met with cries of "censorship?" Now these same swines practically have orgasms at the sight of Obama and his "lovely" wife.
I just know that I will not be enjoying my 4th. of July this year knowing that he is in the White House.

Greyhawk and Anne
there are 47 million uninsured, 80% of them are citizens. That means about 9.4 million of the uninsured are illegal immigrants. That means 3% of the population are illegal immigrants without any type of health coverage whatsover. And actually the $2 trillion figure, of health care spending in the U.S., is a very conservative estimate. In actuallity it's somewhere around $2.3 trillion. And of that $2.3 trillion, the tax payers finance 60% of it for the entire U.S. population. So that would mean tax payers finance about $1.38 trillion worth of health care spending.

And only a few million out of that population of 9 million uninsured illegal immigrants exploit the health insurance system to a high degree. So what you two are pretty much saying is that about 7 million illegal immigrants, less than 2% of the U.S. population, are responsible for 50% of taxpayer financed healthcare spending, which is about $690 billion a year. And mathematically it's impossible for 7 million people to incur $690 billion worth of healthcare spending a year.

Greyhawk et al

When I first began looking at Barack Obama as a Narcissist, was while reading transcripts of the debates and various interviews.

I kept hearing Barack Obama 'Quote Himself', with words like "I have always said", "I said in "......." (some city) and so on.

Barack Obama is a 'Malignant Narcissist' and 'Megalomaniac', he almost erupted today against a Liberal reporter, who kept questioning him about people "Not having to switch from private Health Care to Government Health Care."

Barack Obama's fuse is lit and he will punish any and all who question him.

Prott from NY Question?

Why is the Government involved in any way, with the buying and selling of a commodity like insurance?

Further.

Why is the Government involved in any way, with Health Care?

The MSM and Obama are starting to have

The MSM and Obama are starting to have the dynamic of tension.

This short article is not extremely revealing, but should be read by all Americans, Liberal and Conservative alike.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/23/politics/politicalh otsheet/entry5106892.shtml

Elvis addresses America,obama,St Denise
I thought I would enter the building and offer
my "voice" to America and Obama and St.Denise.
BAILOUTS: I drove a truck and sang on the side.
I never asked for welfare or a bailout!
ILLEGALS: I was taught to honor the law of the
land. The STATUE OF LIBERTY isn't the STATUE OF STUPIDITY!
ABORTION: my parents were dirt poor and didn't
kill me or my twin brother Jesse!
GAY MARRIAGE: That is not MY WAY!
TAXES: When I hit it big I paid my taxes and I paid big!
GUN CONTROL:I used to shoot out my tv when a
person came on that I didn't like! You are going to take my guns? DON'T even try!
MILITARY: I could have bought my way out but
I served! Remember?
OBAMA: Reminds me of my neighbors HOUND DOG,
growl,bark but run the other way when an enemy
showed up!
CONSTITUTION: I have a BURNING LOVE for it!
OBAMAS POLICIES: Gonna lead us to a place I
sang about- HEARTBREAK HOTEL from Miami to NEW
ORLEANS thru the KENTUCKY RAIN all the way to
the beaches of BLUE HAWAII!
My closing thoughts: We are justified to have
SUSPICIOUS MINDS.Obamas approach to those who
support terrorists make me wonder if he is the
DEVIL IN DISGUISE?! His lack of common sense
makes me ALL SHOOK UP!
IF I CAN DREAM I will dream of Americans all
over this great land of America rallying to
save this God chosen land! As I see it......
IT'S NOW OR NEVER!
ELVIS


Trolls Just Can't Help Lying.
Every liberal who comes to these threads have a story to tell. Well,not really a story...more like a fairy tale. Make believe and all that rot.

They make it up as they go along,knowing full well it is not true. They know we know it,too. It just looks good on paper.

Look at all the liberal polls tonight. Revisionist history and lies.Liberals have one thing in common...they all lie.

oops,typo
posts....not polls.

Donvan, et.al.
On GWB:

I was against ALL bailouts.

I was against his spending.

I was against his borrowing.

I was against his unconstitutional actions.

I was against his failure to kill Osama bin Laden and his minions.

I was against most of his moves.

I am for ALL civin unions and gay marriage should a church be found that is willing to perform the cerimony. Heck! let the Catholic Church perform a High Mass.

I am a fiscally-conservative CONSTITUTIONALIST without party affiliation.

And, I am not a Ma'am. I am a Ms.

Rowly...how ya be?
Since you said you are older than dirt,boy
that is some b.day cake! I bet you have to have the fire dept. there to put out the fire!?
Did you read my post a while ago here?
Elvis

ST.DENISE-DENISE...WHOA!
Your 7th position(statement) to Donovan(sp)
floored me! I though you were raised Catholic.
I guess that is why your position on gay marriage surprised me! Oh,well, Mitt Romney recently quoted Reagan as saying "if you are
in agreement on 80% of the issues you are my ally"!
Smile.
Elvis

elvis
Lovin' you!

I agree with everything that you wrote.

You might have shot up your tv, but I scared the sheit of the ducks that for 3 years infiltrated my old pool by throwing in 20 irons.

They did not die. They just never returned.

Keep staying in the building!

Exerpt from IBD..Unions & Health Care
apparently headed for the morgue in the House and Senate, the latest scheme to revive it is to give union health plans a special tax break. This will create a Frankenstein.

IBD Exclusive Series: Government-Run Healthcare: A Prescription For Failure


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Spending a trillion dollars as a down payment for a government takeover of health care is a dream of many Democrats. The current plan in Congress would create a government insurance plan that would drive out the private ones.

The problem, though, is the cost. Even moderate Democrats are having second thoughts about that, as well as all the quality problems associated with socialized medicine. Even so, health care nationalization's biggest boosters are cooking up bad new plans.

Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., and Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., both would like to slap a tax on private health plans to pay for a new government one.

But they've carved out one very big exception: unions and their gold-plated benefit packages. This effectively gives Big Labor an advantage in the market and forces nonunion workers to subsidize unions for their share of this bad idea.

T

Does Anyone Know What FDR Called...

Tsars?


DICTATORS.


Does Obama has a love affair with Old Russia?

elvis
I just now read it.I know where you stand...or sit. I have worked outside today and it was 95 in the shade,so I feel oldern' dirt. Got a lot of work done,though.

In your search engine type in ..Welcome To Desert Web Center. Follow prompts and see how you like it. Lots of Elvis memorabilia and songs.

Rowly...Denise
Rowly- 95 degrees in the shade! WOW!
Thanks for the tip. Smile.It was in the 70's
here.

Denise- well,durn it, there goes my stroll thru the FRENCH QUARTERS since we differ on Gay Marriage! Oh well, maybe you can take me to one of those big ferry boats? Do they still have
those ferry boat rides? That water looks real dangerous at the mouth of the Missiippii!
At least it did when I looked at it churning!
Elvis

Obama can scapegoat...
his predecessor, because he's more to blame for our present difficulties, particularly economic. And from Bush we got Obama. Obama is merely continuing Bush policies, which is why the economy is not getting better. His stimulus was, in fact, a tax. A tax financed the same way Bush's spending was financed - inflation. If history's any indicator, we will get a president after Obama who won't get away with much more spending. What remains to be seen is how much more damage Obama and congress will do until then.

elvis

My ancestors were Catholic.

I was raised as a Babtist.

Now I attend a multiracial church or listen to an African-American religious station.

I am still awaiting reparations for the loss of my French ancestors' heads during the French Revolution!

And, I will NEVER receive a Franc, Euro, Wilsonian Dime or Lincoln Penny. HA!



I

elvis
I NEVER wrote anything about Gay Marriage. I did write about CIVIL UNIONS.

When the Catholic Church performs a High Mass Marital Service for homosexuals, the Mayan Calendar will croak!

mormons,catholics,baptist will never
perform a homosexual marrige. In my opinion.
Mayan calender croak! ha ha ha.
Elvis

And, Obama Loses, Again

The MSM has started to turn on him.

The WSJ poll has Obama down 15% by Indepedents because of his insane spending, foreign policy, energy killers, taxes, health care, and blah, blah, blah.

Obama's favorability is going the way of Ed McManon.

elvis
I agree.

Perhaps, the Martian Church of Uranus will!

When the media makes you,

the media can break you.

I look forward to that day.

Why do you think...Right
1:52 post..THANK YOU for putting Wendy in her place. I'm sick of these twits blaming social conservatives for everything that's gone wrong with the Republican Party..and I am not a Republican although I vote for republicans..won't lower my standards and vote for Baby Killers. (And it seems killing babies doesn't bother RINO's much at all.)

REtired Geek..Do you think there's a possibility of the Dear Leader having a major meltdown..I mean straitjacket meltdown? He definitely doesn't like being challenged and if his buttons continue getting pushed..I wonder..
just wonder????

Numbers Skewed
Someone needs to consider the Thug's poll numbers objectively. When one considers that roughly 98% of blacks, which constitute about 11-12% of the total population of the United States, vote as a block affirmatively for Obama, this number skews the polls. How many blacks are included in all of these polls? I don't believe for one minute that Obama's approval ratings are 56-58%. This is more manure spred by the 'media' to fertilize the propagada fields. And like many other types of fertilizer, this is nothing more than chicken sh**.

Let The Mob Run The Government

Liberals are complete idiots when it comes to economics.

So, some will give their money! HA!

Yes, that will pay for the ~800,000 doctors to treat ~305mn people and the untold amount of money that doctors have to pay for med-mal insurance.

No country will loan us money, gold is at a premium, and ink for the Federal Reserve is running low.

Personally, I know of several doctors, who will set up practice in other countries or medical ships. Heck! I know of a private clinic in a posh area of Southern Mexico where US doctors have clinics because the treatments, which have been prove successful, have been denied by the FDA.

And, now we are supposed to believe that ObamaCare will pay when the CBO, "Pay-Go", and nonparisan think tanks say that it will not.

Read about the "Slow Burn Theory" by Catherine Austin Fitts, who predicts that on a 1 to 10 scale as to whether we will experience another Great Depression is a low 3.

Try reading Gerald Celente.

And, peruse http://www.williamhenry.net/

Both Parties are corrupt and have acted unconstitutionally.

Let the Mob run the government because it will do so effectively and let the government run the Mob because it will f*ck everything up.

When New Hampshire wants to cut taxes across the board and Vermont wants to seceed, you have to wonder whatever happened to the Southern Strategy.

The Republic of Texas, anyone?

LoserAhole the SQUAWKBOX...
You are nothing but a pre-recorded squawk-box, touting the same old same old but offering nothing of value.

"Al Franken...Arlen Spector...minority party...filibuster-proof majority...yessss master...yesssss master...that does not compute...danger...danger, Will Robinsonnnnn..."

BLAH BLAH BLAHHH, YAKKA YAKKA YAKKKKKK!!

Does it even MATTER to you that many of your DOPEACRAT lawmakers have now turned the tables and are begging-off the Socialist-In-Chief's lofty goals for radically changing this nation?? Even THEY realize that it's too expensive and not necessary to radically change everything.

Does ANYTHING of a factual nature make ANY difference to you AT ALL??

Or are you too busy recording the same old squawk-box crap - then playing it back so you can hear your own voice??

Face it, dou***-bag...you and your HNIC's days are numbered. His poll numbers are decreasing...his support is waining...some of your buddies have finally woken up...the kook-aid you all drank in November is wearing off.

These are the facts and you can't hide from them, regardless of how hard you try.

So g'wan...deflect some more crap our way. And the truth will slap you back to the ghet-to where you belong.

"Channnnnnge...Hooooope...Yesss weee CAAANNNN.."

ROTFLMAO!!!!

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