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Tuesday, April 07, 2009
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Somewhere Under the Rainbow
by David Limbaugh
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Alfred Hitchcock dedicated his 1940 film "Foreign Correspondent" to "those intrepid ones who went across the sea to be the eyes and ears of America … who early saw the clouds of war while many of us at home were seeing rainbows."

Kind of brings into focus the old saw that history repeats itself. Only this time, it's our commander in chief who is seeing rainbows -- everywhere except, apparently, in America.

It's bad enough when the George Soros brigades continually disparage America, but it's almost unbearable for the president to do it -- and even worse when he's on foreign soil.

At a town hall meeting with French and German citizens in Strasbourg, France, President Barack Obama proved he hadn't just been posturing on the campaign trail when he castigated then-President George W. Bush for his "unilateralist" foreign policies. It's now clear that Obama wanted not only the American electorate to understand his disdain for his predecessor and the country he led but also the rest of the world to know it.

He told his European audience: "It's always harder to forge true partnerships and sturdy alliances than to act alone. … In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of … seeking to partner with you … there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

It bears repeating that contrary to this tired line of liberal propaganda, President Bush diligently tried to "forge true partnerships and sturdy alliances," especially in building his case to attack Iraq to depose dictator Saddam Hussein. He did not dismissively disregard our allies (though many dismissively disregarded us); he painstakingly pleaded with them to join us in removing this brutal menace.

You're darn right it's hard to forge true partnerships and sturdy alliances, particularly with nations that have corrupt financial relationships with the dictator they should be helping you topple.

But Obama is obviously blind to such complicating realities, his vision being obstructed by his disbelief in America's righteousness and his reflexive inclination to side with our foreign critics.

Obama's attitude was abundantly obvious to conservatives during the campaign, except for the self-styled sophisticates who thought Obama was just trash talking America to placate his MoveOn.org leftist base. He didn't really endorse the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's opinion that America should be damned. His association with unrepentant terrorist William Ayers was only casual and reflected no common ideology. His wife's candid remark that Barack's electoral success to date had made her proud of America for the first time in her adult life was misunderstood and certainly not representative of her husband's sentiments.

Those of us who are more likely to believe that words and actions mean things thought Obama's rhetoric and relationships were significant and indicative that he truly embraced the leftist attitude that America has been too big for its britches, condescending to Europe, disrespectful to the Muslim world, and jingoistic rather than diplomatic toward jihadists, such as the Taliban, to whom we must extend an olive branch.

Why else would he have been so determined to make transformational changes to this nation and proceed to do just that?

Why else did he grovel to the Muslim world upon taking office (as if we owed them an apology for our aid packages to Somalia, Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinians and our liberating missions in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Iraq); apologize abroad for our war in Iraq, which he believes was unprovoked and a distraction from the war on terror (you could have fooled the terrorists in Iraq fighting us all this time); reveal his distaste for American exceptionalism; decide to close Gitmo; support the right of foreign-based terrorists to sue in U.S. courts; rename the war on terror and relegate it to a law enforcement matter; consider publicly releasing 2005 classified internal Justice Department interrogation memos that graphically describe our enhanced interrogation techniques, which would allow the enemy to see and study them; demean his office by bowing before foreign royalty; and demonize the U.S. for its nuclear arsenal and plan to resurrect the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, which countless defense and foreign policy experts and past officials oppose as detrimental to our national security because it would permanently prevent us from field-testing our weapons and impede our ability to maintain and modernize our nuclear arms, while encouraging despots and terrorists to develop and augment their nuclear arsenals?

For all his sermonizing about bringing the world together, Obama hasn't even delivered on his promise to unify us here at home. With due apologies to "The Wizard of Oz," pay no attention to that latest Pew Research Center poll behind the curtain, which shows that "for all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades."

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STFU "Robert"

Preemptive strike...

Primus54
LOL! Just had visions of Dr. Evil... just let him know you have a whole bag of "STFU" with his name on it. Haha. Take care, sir.

Congratulations!
Limbaugh barks about Obama gaving a "partisan" approval rating via Pew Research. He's correct! See, at this point, there are so few "Republicans" that they're more "unified" than ever against the POTUS. See what all those years of weeding out the "RINOS" get you? A solid, unified voice with very small relevance. You've driven away the "moderate" voters and flipped them from "R" to "I". Soon the gop will be able to hold a "unified" convention at the local IHOP. Well done!

President Wimp
It will be a long, long four years.

Truthfarts
Nothing like the thoughtful gloating of a sore winner. You must be thrilled when you can beat 10 year olds at games. Hope it smacks you back in the face in '10

He is one of those...
...presidents who gains authority but never receives what both he and his wife want the most:Respect.And he doesn't deserve it.In the short time that he has been sworn in,he has shown disrespect for life of those most vernerable (s),our little ones.Why should anyone respect his life?He is,after all,just an advanced "fetus".After he accused the United States of being "arrogant",to a bunch of arrogant Europeans,he expects to come home to arrogant America receiving cheers.

Not from this arrogant American he won't.The 2012 election can't come soon enough.

OBAMA REFUSED TO SALUTE FLAG
In the early part of his campaign Obama refused to salute the flag while all of the other candidates did.

He also refused to wear a flagpin & gave a lame excuse for that.

His true feelings were revealed then.

EVIDENCE OF GOD SUPPORTING PRO-LIFE
America has the most radically anti-life president in its history a progressive fool struck deaf, dumb and blind by the socialist idea and moral relativism; a man leading our country into necessary peril. If you're losing faith after 36 years of Roe v. Wade and millions dead that we are losing the battle against abortion and the culture wars don't give up hope. God is with us and victory is near though it may come at a terrible cost of national tribulation and suffering-the price of the Obama presidency, the price of our forgetfulness of what made this country great. Click ApolloSpeaks and read my piece: Evidence of Divine Action Supporting the Pro-Life Movement.

Obama Refuses Saluting Flag & Pledge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9iCANi02o


Unprintable comments
I cannot repeat the comments I made when I heard the news clip of this turd making these anti-American comments. Well, there was that comment, but the rest would get me tossed out of here. Yet another reason for an old fashioned tea party.

Join
the TEA PARTY,TEA PARTY!

let them know....and thumb your nose at any two year olds(libs).

The Anti Liberal Zone
has a FRESH ESSAY up about liberal thinking.

If you've ever wondered WTF they were thinking, here is the essay that lays it out for you.

D G
But at the end of it, comes the end of the liberal party as we know it. Moabama will Jimmy Carter them for a generation.

David
"...It's now clear that Obama wanted not only the American electorate to understand his disdain for his predecessor and the country he led but also the rest of the world to know it..."

We will look back on the failed bush regime as a stain upon our country's honor and a period of hysteria akin to the horrific McCarthy era. You make the classic extremist error of thinking that the extremist agenda and the failed Bush were the country. They were not. It is not the country that is disdained it is a the entire horrible bush era

David
"...For all his sermonizing about bringing the world together, Obama hasn't even delivered on his promise to unify us here at home..."

You missed the percentage of Americans satisfied with the direction of the nation. You miss the fact that the remnants of the Republican party are now the fringe, marginalized and impotent. As a Democrat, please do thank Rush for accomplishing this task. The nation is becoming more and more united; it is just that you folks on the fringe will not give up your hate and divisiveness as this article shows. Too bad you will miss out on helping to transform and rebuild the nation

The REMF from Scranton
continues to bleat his BDS!

BDS, the gift that keeps on giving to liberals, like the STD's they get from their pet sheep!

Hal
I must sincerely thank you. Your daily inane liberal ramblings, your nonstop parroting of failed liberal dogma, and your pathetic ignorance of history always brings a smile to my face.

"...a period of hysteria akin to the horrific McCarthy era." ....indeed.

You even managed to use "extremist" twice in the same sentence! Thanks again.

SAY WHAT?
Leading European Countries? They wouldn't be leading a herd of cattle if our Nation hadn't saved their sorry hindends.
Arrogant, condescending and disrespectful, it's barry that takes the prize for that, NOT our Nation.
America and We the People are witnessing the 'Mother of All Embezzlements' of our taxpayer dollars, our Constitution and our Freedom.

Icedog
That's the REMF from Scranton! Always ready to parrot whatever today's talking points are.

TruthFarts
Soon the gop will be able to hold a "unified" convention at the local IHOP.

I'd rather hold a caucus with five solid conservatives and hold fast to our principles and the principles of our Founding Fathers than join the herd of libsheep like your party's done.

Led by Soros who bought himself a POTUS on a string.

Wow. What an achievement.

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue makes me laugh...

Sorry, Hal.

Or whoever you are posting under the REMF's handle.

Lately I've noticed that your ideology has become even more extreme leftist, and that your grammar and punctuation has improved immeasurably over the previous "Hal" (well... except for the missing period at the end of all your posts).

Who are you - and what have you done with the old drunk that used to post here?

Scranton's Favorite REMF
The election was 53% for Obama and 46% for McCain. And how many of the 53% voted for Obama because they WOULD not vote for McCain?

This was not a landslide for Obama. This was not a mandate for Obama and the Democrats. This was not a complete shift in thinking in America.

This constant "harping" from the Left that "We Won" is non-productive. This movement to Socialism is not mandated by a vote that approaches an equal "split" in the American electorate.

Liberals should realize that the pendulum swings both ways. The elections in 2010 and 2012 could realize a swing back to the "Right".

If the "right" gains control of the US Congress in the next two elections (and possibly the White House in 2012) and REPEALS every law and regulation that Obama and the Democrats have passed, what then?

Primus54
The REMF went to rehab! haha.

At the core of Hal Drunkahue, and a lot of other libsquirts, is that they're afraid that Maobama is blowing it for their party, doing exactly what Carter did, only worse.

2010/2012 are gonna be a landslide against the libs. Especially after we get hit and Maobama flubs the reaction.

We warned, didn't we.
Who could be surprised that Obama's words and actions mirror those in his life who have influenced him most - communists, Marxists, Islamists, socialists, Statists, black separatists and radical feminists (grandmother, mother and wife).

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, huh. Barry Hussein is everything the left accused Bush of being - arrogant, clueless, illiterate, secretive, and ego maniacal. Anyone who can't see this either doesn't want too, or is indeed too stupid to vote.

God will destroy the world because of the continuing slaughter of innocents.

Bumper Stickers
I see plenty of cars removing their Obama stickers.

Buyer's remorse, bigtime.

Gray Ghost
I'm betting that Maobama's Big advneture in Europe just set him back BIG TIME among Americans, especially in the Heartland.

Hard Thought
I'm HEARING liberals voicing their disapproval of Maobama. From taxes to PORKZILLA to this Europe trip, the puppet is laying the groundwork for a landslide for us in 2010/2012 quite nicely.

GunnyG© Federal employee
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 7:35 AM EST
D G
But at the end of it, comes the end of the liberal party as we know it. Moabama will Jimmy Carter them for a generation."

Nope you are now part of a fringe all noise and impotent of all action. Your Reaganism/hooverism has damaged the country and perhaps even destroyed the Republican. Perhaps in four generations the American people will forget the disaster that was today's conservatism

"These sometimes turbulent weeks — marked by new initiatives by Mr. Obama, attacks by Republicans and more than a few missteps by the White House — do not appear to have hurt the president. Americans said they approved of Mr. Obama’s handling of the economy, foreign policy, Iraq and Afghanistan; fully two-thirds said they approved of his overall job performance." Today's NYT http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/us/politics/07poll.html? _r=1&hp

GunnyG©
Don't know if you saw the following I posted on a Coulter column, but it is very telling:

"Yes, I have to admit.... My liberal friends were right.

They told me if I voted for McCain, the nation's hope would deteriorate, and sure enough there has been a 20 point drop in the Consumer Confidence Index since the
election, reaching a lower point than any time during the Bush administration.

They told me if I voted for McCain, the US would become more deeply embroiled in the Middle East, and sure enough tens of thousands of additional troops are scheduled to be deployed into Afghanistan.

They told me if I voted for McCain, that the economy would get worse and sure enough unemployment is approaching 8.8% and the new stimulus packages implemented recently have sent the stock market lower than at any time since 9-11.

They told me if I voted for McCain, we would see more "crooks" in high ranking positions in Federal government and sure enough, several recent cabinet nominees and Senate appointments revealed resumes of scandal, bribery and tax fraud.

They told me if I voted for McCain, we would see more "Pork at the trough" in Federal government and sure enough, 17,500 "Pork Bills"showed up in Congress in the past three weeks...

They told me if I voted for McCain, we would see more deficit spending in DC and sure enough, Obama has spent more in 30 days than all other Presidents together in the history of the good'ole USA....

Well I ignored my Democrat friends in November and voted for McCain.

And they were right .

All of their predictions have come true."

(Reprinted with permission)

NYT?
What did you expect from the propaganda rag for the democrat party? Objective reporting?

I own a nice bridge in Brooklyn, if you're interested......

Liberals Loathe America
Shhh! The secret can only be let out slowly. They hate america -at least the America of "God given rights" and freedom to pursue religions beliefs and follow the commands of our Creator.
That their battle is with God is evidenced by two attempts to destroy the right of conscience lately. One is the attempt by leftist congessmen (with hardly a whimper of protest,) to prevent recipients of (their own tax monies) bailout funds to attend church services. (absolute eveidence that their battle is with God as St.Paul told us) If that isn't sufficient, why FOCA? Why would preventing someone from following thier conscience be helpful to any society when history shows that all great evil societies failed to do just that -follow a conscience. What evil is it they harbor, that so hates man's God given conscience?

Maybe they never read a "Man For All Seasons" -it won't work.

hey HAL
Americans are fiscally conservative by a 2 to 1 ratio:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/the_biggest_missing_ story_in_p.html

The fact Obama talked a good talk during the campaign isn't going to help him(or you) now.

Central planning doesn't work STALIN, oops I mean Hal.

Even why Obama isn't lying,
... he's still wrong. "It's always harder to forge true partnerships and sturdy alliances than to act alone."

Absolutely false. The opposite is true and apparent to anyone capable of thought. It is much easier to carry any burden when the weight is divided. This is third-grade math, which, like logic, Obama must have tried to go alone on and teach himself.

Gray Ghost
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 8:24 AM EST....Liberals should realize that the pendulum swings both ways. The elections in 2010 and 2012 could realize a swing back to the "Right"..."

LMAO you shoul be looking at the 1934 and 1936 elections...

"...If the "right" gains control of the US Congress in the next two elections (and possibly the White House in 2012) and REPEALS every law and regulation that Obama and the Democrats have passed, what then?"

If that happens we reorganize and throw you back out just like you should be trying to do instead of whining, crying and lying but heck that would take actual work wouldn't it?

THE REMF
posts a NY OBAMA TIMES article as a reference!

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!

The same paper that hired Jayson Blair and who is being run into the ground by a 60's radical.

Priceless!

I'll take Reaganism over Obomunism ANY DAY!

To Gray Ghost
Obama won because of a series of factors that made it a bad year for Republicans across the board: (i) a financial "crisis" that created economic uncertainties that have historically favored Democrats and did very much this year; (ii) the Bush Administration bank bailout that muddied the waters of the difference between the parties and the Reaganesque economic messsage that the McCain-Palin ticket did deliver on the campaign trail; (iii) the unpopularity of Bush, which was unfair but was real due to unceasing left wing attacks; (iv) Obama money (7 to 1 advantage) that bought what we see now as false campaign advertising for Obama; and (v) media bias that was ridiculously in the tank for Obama and that operated day in, day out as a propaganda machine for Obama.

According to the polls, McCain was actually the only GOP candidate who ever could have beaten either Hillary of Obama. In September, McCain pulled ahead. But then the financial "crisis" hit.

Also keep in mind that if the country had the same demographics in 2008 as it did in 1992, and people in the various groups voted the same as they did in 2008, McCain would have won. Further note that a high percentage of young voters voted for Obama -- leftist education is having an effect.

I spend time rationally going through what happened because winning in the future won't happen if we play the blame game. Everyone in the GOP (and that includes Rush) had a part in the loss, and there was a lot going on that we have to figure out how to deal with in the future -- e.g., media bias.

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue:

One of the few times you decide to provide a link to a source... and the source is a NYT/CBS poll????

You might as well have posted a link to one of your inane "opinion" pieces on HuffPo!

Yeah, sure... now I'm "convinced" Obama is doing a great job.

That Irish whiskey DOES go great in your morning coffee, doesn't it Hal?

Hal Donahue
This so-called "fringe" has 200 million firearms and about 5 miles to march to take over the entire country.

roadmaster
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 8:31 AM EST...Anyone who can't see this either doesn't want too, or is indeed too stupid to vote..."

LMAO typical extremist who claims to have "superior" knowledge and incapable of considering he may well be in error. This is exactly the thought process that makes conservatives unfit to lead

"...God will destroy the world because of the continuing slaughter of innocents."

If an old white guy with a beard has the ability to destroy the world, he would have done it long ago.

Primus54
What makes this so good is that WE CALLED IT! Maobama is an idiot and has less sense than the TOTUS that speaks for him!

Bowing to the King of Saudi?

Pics of THAT will play well in the Heartland!

DavidM
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 8:47 AM EST
hey HAL
Americans are fiscally conservative by a 2 to 1 ratio:.."

Silly man. I am fiscally conservative. You don't get it do you? You folks severely damaged the private sector and it must now be rebuilt. It cannot rebuild itself. The American people approve of Obama's efforts

The REMF's
hatred of all things American truly makes me wonder whose Air Force he served in. Not the USAF by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe the East German.

Sprechen Sie Duetsch Untersturmbanfuerher REMF?

GunnyG©, Gray Ghost & Primus
The REMF scribbled:

If that happens we reorganize and throw you back out

***** just like you should be trying to do instead of whining, crying and lying but heck that would take actual work wouldn't it? *****



If I were the REMF, I'd be afraid. Very afraid.


THE REMF BLEATS
"You folks severely damaged the private sector
and it must now be rebuilt..."

HHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Yeah, the UAW is staunchly right wing and Gum Job Fwank and Fraud Dodd are both Republicans!

Reaganism- Ushers in the longest running economic boom in American history.

Obomunism- Ushers in socialism and the collapse of American industrial might for cap and trade and Kyoto.

Hal writes:
****Nope you are now part of a fringe all noise and impotent of all action. Your Reaganism/hooverism has damaged the country and perhaps even destroyed the Republican. Perhaps in four generations the American people will forget the disaster that was today's conservatism****

Rubbish. Lies, every word of it.

In truth, Hal, you are nothing more than a tired old man who has realized that the man he voted for is singlehandedly waking the people up and showing them how morally and ethically bankrupt the Democrat party truly is.

The Tea Party movement is growing and will continue to grow as Americans rise against the wasteful and self-destructive policies of your "dear leader".

Your pitiful attempts to degrade and demoralize those who are voicing their protest against Obama's policies are pathetic. The only effect your efforts, and those of people like you, have is to strengthen the resolve of those who oppose your "dear leader."

Comrade Maobama
finds his way to a mosque.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090407/D97DK5AO0.html

Gee go figure. Born a Muslim. Raised a Muslim.

The Manchurian, or should we say, Tehranian Candidate, surfaces.

hoodaticus the fool
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 8:54 AM EST
Hal Donahue
This so-called "fringe" has 200 million firearms and about 5 miles to march to take over the entire country."

LMAO hey guess what firearms are tools you need a plan and an organization both of which you extremists are incapable of doing. Are you advocating revolt my little person? Are you really thinking that you now hate the US Constitution and America? Come on speak up little person

Comrade Zero Maobama
Mosque trip.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090407/D97DK5AO0.html

More ammo for the right.

Curtal Friar
The Tea Party movement is growing and will continue to grow as Americans rise against the wasteful and self-destructive policies of your "dear leader".

BINGO!

Libsquirts sneered that it was a tiny group of complainers and racists and now it's nationwide (get my blog essay from yesterday).

And they're scared.

BmanIII
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 9:09 AM EST
GunnyG©, Gray Ghost & Primus
The ... scribbled:

If that happens we reorganize and throw you back out

***** just like you should be trying to do instead of whining, crying and lying but heck that would take actual work wouldn't it? *****



If I were the REMF, I'd be afraid. Very afraid."

Why this would be a good thing for you to try and it is how our country is supposed to work. The Republican Party's approval rate is now the lowest in its history.

Hal writes:
****The Republican Party's approval rate is now the lowest in its history.****

Rubbish. Keep bleating.

LMAO

Hal
...If an old white guy with a beard has the ability to destroy the world, he would have done it long ago.


As a Christian, Hal, I am supposed to pray for you. With comments like the one you made above the only thing I can say is that I hope someone in your life cares enough about you to lead you to the Lord.

Surely, you will burn in hell for all of eternity for saying things like that.

And on the final judgment day, when you come before Christ all of us will be saying "See Hal, you had your chance and you blew it."

But there still is time for you, Hal:

Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

That is out of the Holy Bible, the King James Version, in case you did not know.

It may do you some good to find a nice church that you can start attending. One that preaches the Word of God; not this new touchy feel-good stuff that is becoming more and more prevalent in today's society.

We can only pray for you, and others that believe (or doesn't believe in your case) as you do.

May God have mercy on your soul.




180-degree Donahue

As noted in a post yesterday, old Hal is a perfect compass for truth.

Just take anything he writes - and believe the opposite.

When so done, it is uncanny how "correct" the old drunk can be!

"LMAO©"

CHIGAGO ON THE POTOMAC


Well I saw professional loosers
breaking things in England. They are the inevitable results of socialism. Men gone wimpy. Are they the ones OBAMA was apologizing to. Obama, the biggest arrogant wimp in all of history, was telling everyone on his trip what they wanted to hear. That's what he does.

Hey, I'm talking to you Hal!

Scranton's Favorite REMF Says:
"LMAO hey guess what firearms are tools you need a plan and an organization both of which you extremists are incapable of doing. Are you advocating revolt my little person? Are you really thinking that you now hate the US Constitution and America? Come on speak up little person"

I will speak up little boy Doofus. I can read in your ramblings that you are really frightened. Some of the plans are already in motion (Tea Parties). The plans were originally set up in the 1770's. Our Founding Fathers showed how it was to be done.

As for revolt, that it up to you and the other Liberal minions. Push too far to the Left, throw the Constitution out the window, and you will see what happens.

I am a far cry from the men who marched on the "green at Lexington", a far cry from the men who fired "the shot heard round the world" at Concord, and a far cry from "the men who held their fire until they could see the whites' of their eyes at Breed's Hill",

BUT

so the H*ll are you.

You and the Liberals are pushing every Conservative American into a corner. I would consider that FACT if I were you.

jeannie
I read your blog "dis-charm or dis-arm the sandbox bully."

Great analogy, and great blog essay.

Keep it up!

GunnyG Federal Employee
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 9:16 AM EST
Curtal Friar
The Tea Party movement is growing and will continue to grow as Americans rise against the wasteful and self-destructive policies of your "dear leader".

BINGO!

Libsquirts sneered that it was a tiny group of complainers and racists and now it's nationwide (get my blog essay from yesterday).

And they're scared."

No actually we wish you well and hope you can resurrect the Republican Party. I will attend one or two with a camera LOL

Gray Ghost writes:
****I am a far cry from the men who marched on the "green at Lexington", a far cry from the men who fired "the shot heard round the world" at Concord, and a far cry from "the men who held their fire until they could see the whites' of their eyes at Breed's Hill",****

Amen, Gray Ghost, amen.

But when push comes to shove, we will do our best to follow their example.

Scranton's Favorite REMF Writes:
"If that happens we reorganize and throw you back out just like you should be trying to do instead of whining, crying and lying but heck that would take actual work wouldn't it?"

Possibly, but you miss one important factor. The Liberals are pushing every Conservative in the USA into a corner. The Liberals are "forcing" Socialism down the throats of everu Conservative in the country. And the Liberals are being very "arrogant" about it.

If this leads to open revolt, there might not be any Liberals left to "reorganize and throw you back out".

Have YOU and the Liberals considered that?

Have YOU and the Liberals thought about the consequences of your arrogance?

Have YOU and the Liberals taken a moment to realize that this whole thing could end up in a revolution?

Personally, I hope and pray that it is a revolution at the elections and not a "shooting" revolution.

Hal spews:
****No actually we wish you well and hope you can resurrect the Republican Party. I will attend one or two with a camera LOL ****

Knowing you, Hal, you will probably take a picture of a small group of people at the edge of the demonstration and try to claim that was all that showed up.

Have no fear though, we've anticipated that tactic, and there will be plenty of us taking pictures of the whole thing and posting those pictures all over the Internet.

Poor fearful little Hal, stuck between two fears: the fear that the people are rising up in anger against the wasteful and immoral and unAmerican policies of the Democrats and Hal's dear leader, and the growing fear and realization that Hal in his blind dedication has helped put a monster in the White House.

Poor little guy. I almost feel sorry for ya.

LMAO

Curtal Friar
You are so correct.

I might not be the "patriot" that Daniel Morgan and John Knox were. I might not be as politically savy as Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were. I might not have the "greatness" that George Washington had.

But I will try my best and follow their examples. That is all the Founding Fathers would ask of us.

They pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor to set up this country. I can do no less.

BmanIII
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 9:34 AM EST
Hal
...If an old white guy with a beard has the ability to destroy the world, he would have done it long ago...As a Christian, Hal, I am supposed to pray for you. With comments like the one you made above ...Surely, you will burn in hell for all of eternity for saying things like that..."

Look what if you are wrong and the Buddha was right? You folks would crucify Christ if he came again. What happened to love on and other. Somehow you folks are far more old testament than new. The jefferson Bible was almost certainly the most accurate

"And on the final judgment day, when you come before Christ all of us will be saying "See Hal, you had your chance and you blew it."

If there is a judgment day, I can stand by my life; perfect no but I tried and did ok

"...May God have mercy on your soul."

and on yours

Folks
Our president is in Baghdad

Gray Ghost
Couldn't have said it better myself.

The liberals like Hal that like to mock everything, have no conception of just important the founding fathers are to us.

They have no understanding of how much we believe in America and will stand up and fight for our heritage.

Curtal Friar 10:11am
Do feel sorry for the REMF from Scranton and all the other Little Liberals who "sold their souls" for taste of power and a chance to ride the "coat tails" of the Liberal Elites into an orgy of Socialism.

All they have is a "taste".

And for this little taste, this 30 pieces of silver, all they will have to show for it is NOTHING. In a hundred years, historians will look at them and call them either foolish or, worse, traitors.

And even if they win, they will still have sold their souls. And that means they lost.

Regardless of what the REMF believes, I KNOW there is a God. And, I KNOW there is a Judgement.

Gray Ghost
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 9:56 AM EST
Scranton's Favorite REMF Says:
"LMAO hey guess what firearms are tools you need a plan and an organization both of which you extremists are incapable of doing...."...I will speak up little boy Doofus. I can read in your ramblings that you are really frightened..."

No but I am amazed how completely super patriots like you morphed in traitors because you lost an election and were repudiated by the people. Laughable really and a sad commentary on the extreme right

"...As for revolt, that it up to you and the other Liberal minions. Push too far to the Left, throw the Constitution out the window, and you will see what happens..."

LMAO we will push your damaging extremism right out the door and into the trash. Your days of dividing and hating are over - understand? The people have spoken. THAT is our Constitution! Dare try violence and we will crush you. Most Americans still treasure our constitution and will not allow rabble to destroy it.

"...I am a far cry from the men who marched on the "green at Lexington", a far cry from the men who fired "the shot heard round the world" at Concord, and a far cry from "the men who held their fire until they could see the whites' of their eyes at Breed's Hill",.."

I know you are. But the average American is not. We are the ordinary citizen who has done extraordinary things in service to our country from the green at Lexington to Iraq to places unsung. We are Americans.

"...You and the Liberals are pushing every Conservative American into a corner. I would consider that FACT if I were you."

We will not stop. We are transforming this country. You want to stop that? Win an election. American has had enough of your incompetence and division

Curtal Friar
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 10:22 AM EST
Gray Ghost...The liberals like Hal that like to mock everything, have no conception of just important the founding fathers are to us..."

You create a fake history and claim you love the founders when in reality you would be the Tories of the day. You are living a lie and believing in a myth

"...They have no understanding of how much we believe in America and will stand up and fight for our heritage."

Heritage???? What heritage? The fake myths and lies you pass as history? Enough of your right wing nonsense

Curtal Friar
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 10:11 AM EST
Hal spews:
****No actually we wish you well and hope you can resurrect the Republican Party. I will attend one or two with a camera LOL ****

Knowing you, Hal, you will probably take a picture of a small group of people at the edge of the demonstration and try to claim that was all that showed up..."

I am a liberal not a limbawl conservative. There will be more than enough material without making something up. Besides having pictures of everyone is always "nice"

Hal spews:
****Heritage???? What heritage? The fake myths and lies you pass as history? Enough of your right wing nonsense****

The Declaration of Independence

The Revolutionary War

The Constitution of the United States

The writings and examples that they gave us.

The America they created, which you and your ilk are trying so busily to do away with.

That heritage, Hal.

Hal spews:
****we will push your damaging extremism right out the door and into the trash. Your days of dividing and hating are over - understand? The people have spoken. THAT is our Constitution! Dare try violence and we will crush you. Most Americans still treasure our constitution and will not allow rabble to destroy it.****

LMAO

If things get bad enough that a real revolution happens, you'll be running for the hills with a bad case of brown shorts.

ROFLMAO

The REMF from Scranton Brags
"LMAO we will push your damaging extremism right out the door and into the trash. Your days of dividing and hating are over - understand? The people have spoken. THAT is our Constitution! Dare try violence and we will crush you. Most Americans still treasure our constitution and will not allow rabble to destroy it."

Go ahead idiot. We have been called "rabble" before. The British elites called us that in 1775 and 1776. (Personally, I enjoy the name "rabble". It means I can hold my head up around men like Jefferson, Adams, Morgan, and Knox.)

My hands are clean. 53% vs. 46% does not constitute a mandate. But I can see you are enjoying your display of childish arrogance. Remember, your side can also be called "extremists" too.

I will stiil pray for a revolution at the elections. If it becomes a "shooting" revolution, you and your Liberal friends can blame no one but yourselves.

AND WE WILL REVOLT IF YOU TRY TO DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION. (I don't think that you and Code Pink can crush us. But you did give me a chuckle.)

Curtal Friar
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 10:47 AM EST
Hal spews:
****Heritage???? What heritage? The fake myths and lies you pass as history? Enough of your right wing nonsense****

The Declaration of Independence,,,The Revolutionary War...The Constitution of the United States...The writings and examples that they gave us."

These are all moderate/liberal actions and documents. This is what you Conservatives simply do not understand. Your heritage lies with the crown and the tories not our side

"...The America they created, which you and your ilk are trying so busily to do away with. That heritage, Hal."

It is your ilk that has operated against our history and traditions. Our nation's history is one of mutual cooperation and independence and growth. Your heritage is a myth

Curtal Friar
The REMF has given us the Liberals' game plan:

"We will not stop. We are transforming this country. You want to stop that? Win an election. American has had enough of your incompetence and division"

They do not care about the FACT that 53% vs. 46% is not an earth-shattering landslide.

They are betting that Conservatives will "meekly" obey THEIR new laws.

They are also cutting their own throats. The end result of their "over-stepping" the 2008 election results will be:

1. Two countries (Red States in one, Blue states in the other)

OR

2. The complete destruction of the Democrat Party.

God help us. We are not dealing with rational people in the Democrat Party. We are dealing with complete meglomaniacs.

See you later. I have to go back to work.

Like I said... "180-degree Hal"
...strikes again when he opines:

"These are all moderate/liberal actions and documents. This is what you Conservatives simply do not understand. Your heritage lies with the crown and the tories not our side"

See what I mean? Old Hal thinks the "liberals" during the days of our founding have some kind of kinship with today's liberals.

Nothing could be more 180-degrees out of phase.

Our founding fathers believed in individual liberty, Judeo-Christian principles and limited government - the complete OPPOSITE of today's liberals/socialists.

Nice try, Hal. But your attempt at redefining liberalism is transparent in the extreme.

Gray Ghost
So, the Bard of Scranton is telling us, "Dare try violence and we will crush you", huh?

I assume the "we" he refers to means himself and his fellow liberals.

My reaction to THAT is what Tom Cruise told his former commanding officer, whom he had previously told to his face he would gladly kill for nothing, just before the final battle in the movie The Last Samurai: "I'll look for you on the battlefield".

Ignore it.
Ignore Murtha's pet, folks. (Hearing it yapping gives me a headache.) Isn't there a leash law in Scranton?

Hal spews:
****These are all moderate/liberal actions and documents****


There is nothing moderate about the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution

They were bold, revolutionary documents.

Hal Donahue @ 10:20
...Folks
Our president is in Baghdad


Ok Hal, should all of us now start saying we hope Obama gets bombed, killed, or whatever term you want to use?

I mean, that is what happened with V.P. Cheney when he was in Iraq isn't it? You guys were disappointed when the attacks failed to kill him, weren't you?

I do, however, have a great amount of sympathy for the military. They are the ones that have to endure Obama's publicity stunt.

I bet Obama hasn't learned how to salute yet. Unless he is going to salute in arabic.


Gray Ghost
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 10:59 AM EST
The REMF from Scranton Brags
"LMAO we will push your damaging extremism right out the door and into the trash. Your days of dividing and hating are over - understand? The people have spoken. THAT is our Constitution! Dare try violence and we will crush you. Most Americans still treasure our constitution and will not allow rabble to destroy it."

Go ahead idiot. We have been called "rabble" before. The British elites called us that in 1775 and 1776. (Personally, I enjoy the name "rabble". It means I can hold my head up around men like Jefferson, Adams, Morgan, and Knox.)"

LMAO NAH your ilk were licking the British boot

"..My hands are clean. 53% vs. 46% does not constitute a mandate..."

Bur nearly 70 versus less than 30% certainly does and those are the numbers for the country heading in the right direction

"... But I can see you are enjoying your display of childish arrogance. Remember, your side can also be called "extremists" too."

We are not extremists we are the great middle and we are not talking revolt and hatred but cooperation and progress. You are extremist

"..I will stiil pray for a revolution at the elections. If it becomes a "shooting" revolution, you and your Liberal friends can blame no one but yourselves..."

utter rubbish why even mention it. You are cowards and failures

"...AND WE WILL REVOLT IF YOU TRY TO DESTROY THE CONSTITUTION. (I don't think that you and Code Pink can crush us. But you did give me a chuckle.) "

We are the supporters of the Constitution you are anti-constitution - fact. Look at your typed words. LMAO your debauched Confederacy thought exactly the same and they were FAR better than you

Curtal Friar
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 11:27 AM EST
Hal spews:
****These are all moderate/liberal actions and documents****


There is nothing moderate about the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution

They were bold, revolutionary documents."

Yes and they were all liberal

Hal spews:
****We are the supporters of the Constitution you are anti-constitution - fact.****

ROFLMAO

Right, Hal.

Rubbish and lies.

BmanIII
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 11:28 AM EST
Hal Donahue @ 10:20
...Folks
Our president is in Baghdad


Ok Hal, should all of us now start saying we hope Obama gets bombed, killed, or whatever term you want to use?

I mean, that is what happened with V.P. Cheney when he was in Iraq isn't it? You guys were disappointed when the attacks failed to kill him, weren't you?.."

I certainly didn't want him killed. All I have ever wanted for Cheney was for him to be in the dock at the Hague where he truly belongs

Hal spews:
****Yes and they were all liberal****

Rubbish. Not by your definition of liberal.


curtal
"****We are the supporters of the Constitution you are anti-constitution - fact.****

ROFLMAO

Right, Hal.

Rubbish and lies."

-rubbish? you sound like a modern day englishman! were you so terribly upset that that uppity and angry black woman michelle dared touch the queen?
haha. you are a loser.

curtal
if the founding fathers were so religious, why did they make freedom from religion an option in the constitution? in fact, it was in the very first amendment.

curtal
this will hurt, but you should check it out.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm

tr spews:
****-rubbish? you sound like a modern day englishman! were you so terribly upset that that uppity and angry black woman michelle dared touch the queen?****

????

Michelle?

The Queen?

I wasn't aware anyone was talking about them.

I didn't realize you had such pitiful reading skills.

ROFLMAO at the stupidity of tr

Curtal Friar
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 11:45 AM EST
Hal spews:
****We are the supporters of the Constitution you are anti-constitution - fact.****...Rubbish and lies."

You are whining and wanting to overthrow a fair election that you lost. Your candidates are unable to compete because your philosophy is proven incompetent. The Constitution says we get to govern. You don't like it then win at the ballot box unless you are a traitor and want to try and over throw the country.

"****Yes and they were all liberal****

Rubbish. Not by your definition of liberal."

See here you folks are trying to rewrite definitions. You do not get that power any longer. We are liberals and so were the founders. Actually they have seen your ilk before - all talk and no capability

tr spews:
****curtal
if the founding fathers were so religious, why did they make freedom from religion an option in the constitution? in fact, it was in the very first amendment.****

LOL

Wow. You really are quite the idiot. I could answer that question, but I'm not sure at all that your limited mental faculties would permit you to understand.

In any case, that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. Please do go back to school and get some tutoring in reading comprehension.

Curtal Friar, BmanIII, and Others
Just on for a moment before I go to an inspection at a job site.

Note the REMF's calling of everyone but himself a "coward".

The Doofus must really have a yellow streak a mile wide. Everytime some one else on the other side stands up, he calls them a coward.

Psychologists have a name for this condition. I forget the name, but it amounts to the patient trying to disguise his own fear by calling everyone else a "coward".

Note that none of us labeled the Liberals "cowards" on any of our posts today.

And if the revolution is not at the elections (and if it does become a "shooting" revolution), I have no doubt there will be men on the Liberal side who will stand up and take up arms.

However, I fear that the REMF from Scranton will not be among them. He has shown his true "colors" today.

tr spews:
****curtal
this will hurt, but you should check it out.

http://www.nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm****

LOL....it doesn't hurt at all, tr boy.

It also has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Really, lad, your reading comprehension skills need a great deal of work.

curtal
"Michelle?

The Queen?

I wasn't aware anyone was talking about them.

I didn't realize you had such pitiful reading skills."

-the queen is english. you were talking about tories, who were loyal to the english crown during the revolutionary war. hal correctly pointed out that you have everything in common with them. you would have been loyal to the queen, and the state religion you erroneously claim was set up here. since the queen (of england) and michelle obama (she is the wife of the president) made the news lately, i was alluding to them. you aren't clever enough to see the connection there.

curtal
if i'm so stupid how come you're the one who lives in kansas?

Liberals vs. Founding Fathers
The founding Fathers were true liberals in that they believed in the primacy of the individual instead of the primacy of the state that the modern sorry state of liberals believe in.

Check the Constitution. Not one mention of a right of privacy. No mention of using tax dollars for charity. Somehow the social compact got changed to include entitlement spending which is inherently unConstitutional!

What the modern day liberals espouse would fit in well in 1920's Italy and 1930's Germany. Do the research and find out for yourself. Health care, "green" lifestyle, organic food, public housing, avoidance phobia (trans fat, smoking). All of these were part and parcel of the fascist states and the democrat party today.

Howard Dean quits a church over a bike path. Nazi's stated "Public use before private use." What's the difference? None.

It is the smothering embrace of the nanny state that indivicualists can't escape.

Thankfully, morons a minority
Ya gotta love all the "America firsters" posting here adding their "me too" to Limbaugh's inanities. Don't you guys ever, ever step out of the echo chamber? Limbaugh and Hannity and too many the other blowhards are banking on your idiocy and it's startling to see how many here willfully buy into the garbage they're selling you.

It's kinda complicated, I know, but Obama actually said the opposite of what Limbaugh would have you believe. You see, by selective quotation and omission, he's pulling the wool over your rummy eyes by leaving out the other half of Obama's rhetorical construct in these quotes: Obama actually said, As much as the US has blame to bear for the failures of our relationship over the past eight years, SO DOES EUROPE. And he said it to their faces.

That takes cajones, friends; unlike un-American liars who can't make an argument to save their souls without lying through their teeth.

Here's what Obama actually said:

[continued next post because of Townhall comment limits--gotta keep things short for the rubes!]

Obama's Real Quote
[continued from previous]

"It's more difficult to break down walls of division than to simply allow our differences to build and our resentments to fester. So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.

But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad.

On both sides of the Atlantic, these attitudes have become all too common. They are not wise. They do not represent the truth. They threaten to widen the divide across the Atlantic and leave us both more isolated. They fail to acknowledge the fundamental truth that America cannot confront the challenges of this century alone, but that Europe cannot confront them without America.

So I've come to Europe this week to renew our partnership, one in which America listens and learns from our friends and allies, but where our friends and allies bear their share of the burden. Together, we must forge common solutions to our common problems.

So let me say this as clearly as I can: America is changing, but it cannot be America alone that changes. We are confronting the greatest economic crisis since World War II. The only way to confront this unprecedented crisis is through unprecedented coordination."


lots of stupidity from tr
****-the queen is english.****

True. Thanks for pointing out the obvious.

LOL

****you were talking about tories, who were loyal to the english crown during the revolutionary war.****

No, I was not. I did not one time even mention the tories. You, lad, are quite confused.

****hal correctly pointed out that you have everything in common with them.****

Hal has not correctly pointed out one thing, except the way to the local bar in Scranton, PA.

****you would have been loyal to the queen,****

Actually, during the Revolutionary period, there was a King, not a Queen. tr, really, I must insist you find someone to teach you how to read.

****and the state religion you erroneously claim was set up here.****

I've never claimed such a thing.

****since the queen (of england) and michelle obama (she is the wife of the president) made the news lately, i was alluding to them. you aren't clever enough to see the connection there.****

I'm glad you were able to read about them in the news. Michelle and the Queen still have nothing to do with the conversation here.

Still, can't expect an imbecile to make much sense, except to himself.

Poor little tr.

ROFLMAO

Hal,The Red
No actually we wish you well and hope you can resurrect the Republican Party. I will attend one or two with a camera LOL
************************************************
How big is your camera,Hal? Have you tried to see if it will fit 'where the sun doesn't shine'? LMAO LOL LMAO!!!

Hal
"Folks
Our president is in Baghdad"

Well, there goes Iraq! Right down the tubes.

I suspect he will visit the grave of Saddam and apologize, for the US having captured him.

Gray Ghost
The word you are looking for is projection, when one accuses another of that of which he is guilty.

Don't worry about the Queen.
I don't know why anyone should be worried about the Obama's touching the Queen. The Queen wasn't born yesterday, she made sure the Obama's wouldn't embarrass themselves, despite the tacky gifts they brought. She had the bidets in all of the bathrooms labeled: "This is NOT a drinking fountain." There were arrows pointing to the toilet paper rolls with the words "Please use and dispose of properly, NOT on the floor. And on the inside of the door a huge sign was posted. "PLEASE wash hands before leaving, especially if you have any desire to touch the Queen." And finally, immediately after their departure, a valet wearing latex gloves removed the Queen's dress and sent it to the incinerator. So don't worry about the Queen. She knows how to handle classless visitors. So no harm done.

hobo jubgle
What is a 'jubgle'?

tr spews:
****curtal
if i'm so stupid how come you're the one who lives in kansas?****

There's an intelligent response, lol.

I didn't think you were capable of such an intelligent response, tr.

What wit!

ROFLMAO at the hilarious and irrelevant stupidity of tr

Just goes to show that you can
dress any monkey in a suit and make him a big hit in Europe as long as he bashes the US. I just wish he would quit pretending he was not a Muslim. He and Michelle would look right at home in traditional Muslim garb. The cloning of Jimmy Carter was a complete success.

motley
Very good

Summers. Isn't "jubgle" one of those
little animals so popular in gay bathhouses? Or is that a gerbil? Never can be sure with those people.

Curtal Friar
Since tr evidently believes that people who live in Kansas must be stupid, has anyone told him yet that Obama's choice for HHS Secretary is from Kansas?

Must fill him with a lot of confidence about Obama's ability to pick "smart" people vs. "stupid" people for positions of great responsibility within the federal government.

hobo to curtal
'if (sic) I'm so stupid how come you're the one who lives in Kansas?'

What? You have to admit, hobo, that question doesn't even make sense to you. However, if it does, you need some tutoring in logic and reasoning.

Is there a dumb contest for trolls going on today? Or is it the full moon coming that has attracted lunatics?

Summers asks:
****What is a 'jubgle'?****

Summers, a "jubgle" is what spews out of tr's mouth when he tries to speak.

LOL

Standshisground
tr is in dire need of reading comprehension skills.

He could also use some practice in basic logic, as well as history, math, civics, science, and many other subjects.

Someday, he will graduate from sixth grade and he will be really astounding.

ROFLMAO

Shallow Hal
To Gray Ghost: 'Your days of hating and dividing are over - understand?'

This is emplary of the liberal idea that free speech, unimpeded, is what a liberal wants to say in whatever forum he chooses. All other speech is banned.

As to 'hating and dividing', you and other trolls have taught that lesson well for eight years. Now, instead of enjoying your victory, you are still working on hating and dividing. You want any criticism disallowed. That double standard, which is quite obvious and shallow, is not provided for in the Constition. To the contrary, the freedom to make the criticisms is protected.

Motley Crue
Now that gives me an idea for Obama's next stop in a Muslim country. He just needs to drop his pants and let his pet gerbil, Hillary, jump out of his a**. He can't do much more to make himself look like a fool.

summers
"jubgle" is a clever typo i came up with.


Hey Doofass:
Who said this last year, "Worfs, just words," and this year said, "Words have meaning?"

Hal
I find it fascinating,that the 2 presidents for our problems today.You may have a point about Hoover.However the man that followed Hoover was the main reason we were in a long depression.Nothing Roosevelt did helped to end the depression.Today it was a rino president that started this with the aiding and abetting of a democratic congress.It is entirely obamas fault from when he took over,plus a dem congress

Curtal Friar & Summers
Curtal Friar:

If tr ever DOES graduate from 6th grade, the ONLY reason for it will be the liberals' policy in our schools of "social promotion".


Summers:

I don't think the trolls NEEDED a dumb contest; all they needed to show how dumb they are was simply to be themselves.

To both:

If tr and his fellow trolls think we who live in red states are "stupid", I actually hope they'll KEEP that thought; maybe it will discourage them and all their fellow hard-core liberals from moving to OUR states once they've managed to make a total shambles of their OWN nests.

Although I'm not optimistic about THAT. sheepdog in UT has told us about the influx of liberal Californians to that state: I'm sure almost all of them were saying - right up to the day they left California because they found Utah MUCH more liveable than the mess they made of their own area - that they'd NEVER be caught DEAD in such a "backwards, medieval" place like Utah.

hobo jubgle
Clever? Care to expound?

tr spews:
****"jubgle" is a clever typo i came up with.****

ROFLMAO

tr, I remember you now. You were that boy in elementary school who used to sit in the back of the room and lick his jar of paste.

correction
"words just words" No insult to Klingons intended

ExRC SD Deputy
I was accutely aware of his saying 'Words have meaning'. My only wish is that I knew what meaning they have.

You notice
that when GWB went to Iraq the Doofass said it was a publicity stunt, now that Obumd^ck goes there, it is a master political stroke.

jax33
Two excellent books that back your argument:
The Forgotten Man, Amity Shlaes
New Deal or Raw Deal, Burton Folsom, Jr.

Summers:
They mean whatever the polls tell him they mean.

You Cannot Criticize the U.S.?
If one were to take it from those infamous "patrioits" from the right wing, the U.S. IS perfect and impervious to ANY criticism.
The U.S. has never done ANYTHING WRONG in its history and whenever the U.S. has become involved in ANY kind of conflict it's ALWAYS provoked from the outside because we as "true patriots" believe in TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND THE AMERICAN WAY!!!

That my friend is called BLIND PATRIOTISM.

summers
"Clever? Care to expound?"


-what was my intent? did i mean to type "hobo juggle" or "hobo jungle"? do either make sense? did i mean to type "jubgle"? what?

One must have a command of English
before one can produce a typo. Otherwise it's just bad spelling.

Hal i tosis...
...if you were stupid, I could forgive you.

...if you were ignorant, I could forgive you.

...but you have shown yourself to be an enemy of God ("if there is a Judgment"), an enemy of your, very, Creator. No forgiveness for you.

Of course, you are an Obama supporter. You agree with him that we are "clinging to our guns and Bibles." That puts him in league with you, alright - and makes him an enemy of God, as well. He would not, even, vote for a law that would have allowed medical staff to provide basic care to a baby who survived an abortion attempt!!! Oh, yes, I forgot, in a recent "sermon," the "Reverend" Katherine Ragsdale called abortion a "BLESSING!" You and your intelectual cohorts, truly, are mentally ill.

Left Angle
Who are the 'infamous 'patrioits' (sic) from the right wing'?

the stupidity of tr
As if there weren't already voluminous examples of tr's hilarious and confused stupidity, here's a new gem:

****-what was my intent? did i mean to type "hobo juggle" or "hobo jungle"? do either make sense? did i mean to type "jubgle"? what?****

Summers:
Here are a couple of patriots from the left: Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

Left Angle
Nobody has said that the USA is above criticism. I do take exception when the USA is criticized by the POTUS while on foreign soil.

That goes WAY too far down the apologist highway.

Mot!
Picky, picky, picky!

On the news is the story that Franken has pulled ahead of Coleman and is likely to be the winner.

My thoughts: If that is the best Coleman could do after serving a term, shame on him. Franken will win by a slim margin, despite his name recognition. Those who voted for him will get what they deserve; the rest should learn a lesson from their apathy.

ExRC SD Deputy
Day before yesterday I learned that another GREAT patriot from the left is going to be honored by Barbara Walters (she who should have retired several generations ago). Hanoi Jane Fonda is going to be glorified. Personally, I thought she should have been tried and executed.

Summers:
I forgot all about those other great leftist patriots, John Kerry, John Murtha, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, Herry Reid, Cindy Shhehan, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Hal Donahue.

ExRC SD Deputy
Somehow I don't think there is time in the day to list all of the left's great patriots. But, before I go, I must add:
Chis Dudd
Bawney Fwank
And, never forget Fritz Hollins who used to sound like Foghorn Leghorn on crack.

Summers
Bawney Fwank is now known as Gum Job Fwank. It's his selling point in the h0m0 bars at Cape Cod(piece).

ExRCSD Deputy
Careful about slandering the REMF! He served the Stasi well!

(Sing to the tune of Davy Crockett)

Born on a mountain top in East Saale
Joined the Stasi when he was only three
Learned to pass BS and to stay pie eyed
And swore that he’d be in until
The day he died.

Harold, Harold the REMF
Untersturmbanfuerher

(refrain)

ExRCSD Deputy
verse 2

Many a mission he said he’d fly
Many a time it was a paper cut or die
Then when he thought that retirement
Was near…

The Stasi bent him over and finished his career.

REMFIE, Hal the REMF, A88hat here at Townhall

hard thought/summer
hard thought:

I dont think it's apologizing when the truth is being told.

summer:

I speaking of those on the right who are always
complaining about having to pay taxes.

Lost Angle:
We don't object to paying taxes, just paying EXORBITANT taxes.

Typical RightWinger U.S. Does NO Wrong.
In the mindset of the typical right-winger the U.S. is above ANY criticism and anyone that does so is anti-american, a communist, a socialist, or a terrorist.

they are the ones who are constantly waving the flag, praising "a-mur-eh-kuh" all the while and in spite of the fact that they absolutely HATE paying taxes and are more than willing to to go war AS LONG AS SOMEBODY ELSES
CHILDREN ARE DOING THE FIGHTING...

all the while chanting:

USA USA USA USA!!!

Hard Thought
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 12:15 PM EST
Liberals vs. Founding Fathers
The founding Fathers were true liberals in that they believed in the primacy of the individual instead of the primacy of the state that the modern sorry state of liberals believe in."

See we know just like the founders that government is just a tool nothing else. There is little difference between liberals then and no. That is why you oppose us so much. He believe in letting people be free and we believe people should live as they like and grow as they like. It is you failed conservatives who invite government into our homes, bed rooms and bodies.

"..Check the Constitution. Not one mention of a right of privacy. No mention of using tax dollars for charity. Somehow the social compact got changed to include entitlement spending which is inherently unConstitutional!"

Wrong. The constitution was written as broadly as possible and meant to be interpreted the same way. See Whiskey Rebellion as to establishing federal authority.

"...What the modern day liberals espouse would fit in well in 1920's Italy and 1930's Germany. Do the research and find out for yourself..."

I have and that is where the failed Bush was going. We didn't nationalize the banks and we are working hard to rebuild the free market that you estroyed

"... Health care, "green" lifestyle, organic food, public housing, avoidance phobia (trans fat, smoking). All of these were part and parcel of the fascist states and the democrat party today..."

LMAO Health is a fascist quality LOL, LOL You are truly deranged!!!!


Lost Anus:
Many of us have already served in the military. What about you, or are you too cojoneless to do so?

Hey Doofass:
How are you, the worthless, no account, no class, pitiful, amazingly stupid, phony vet POS, today?

Ex SCRD Deputy
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if someone like Left Angle looks at his pay stub and says "We aren't taxed enough"

jax33
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 1:13 PM EST
Hal
I find it fascinating,that the 2 presidents for our problems today.You may have a point about Hoover.However the man that followed Hoover was the main reason we were in a long depression.Nothing Roosevelt did helped to end the depression..."

See this is classic Heritage Foundation Revisionism and untrue. Reducing unemployment from 25 to 15% is NOTHING? Keeping people from starving in the street or revolting is nothing? In actual fact FDR was too timid not wrong. Do the research don't just look at what you want to hear

"...Today it was a rino president that started this with the aiding and abetting of a democratic congress.It is entirely obamas fault from when he took over,plus a dem congress"

First point, the failed Bush was no RINO; he was exactly what you get from what passed as fundamentalist conservatism - he did what he wanted and to heck with you, the country or anyone else but him. Second point, this bush depression is always the outcome of reaganism/hooverism. It simply does not work and never has

sheepdog
It's always funny to hear libidiots say that we should pay more taxes yet you WON'T find them writing checks to the Treasury AFTER they've already filed their taxes.

ExRCSD Deputy
More like: Loose Anus because the crap flows like a river from the twit.

I have my usual libtrolls on my blog but they STILL can't refute my essay on liberal thinking!

Check it out brother.

Doofass:
In your Wolkenkuckucksheim world, what isn't GWB's fault?

hal spews:
****First point, the failed Bush was no RINO; he was exactly what you get from what passed as fundamentalist conservatism - he did what he wanted and to heck with you, the country or anyone else but him. Second point, this bush depression is always the outcome of reaganism/hooverism. It simply does not work and never has****

Rubbish. Lies, all of it.

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jax33
You're wasting time and keystrokes on the REMF from Scranton.

We've told the fool time and again that FDR lengthened the Depression. He was provided the link for the study.

He's a bitter old senile fool and we usually ignore the moron.

He references himself as a duty expert on everything as well as Huffy Puffy and Wiki!

He's a legend in his own mind, who knows absolutely everything about nothing.

Lost Angle: What? "AS LONG AS SOMEBODY

ELSES CHILDREN ARE DOING THE FIGHTING...

Speaking of which, have YOU served?

Or are you just one of those losers who sits back, fat, dumb, and drooling on himself, enjoying all the freedoms that OTHERS guarantee FOR YOU?


A MUST SEE
A student from HARVARD takes on Gum Job Fwank!

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/04/07/harvard_s tudent_takes_on_barney_frank_over_economy.html

Listen to Ol Lispy pull a Maobama...

er, um, ah!

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

GunnyG
Check this out
http://www.onpedia.com/encyclopedia/stasi
It may be gone but their tentacles still run pretty deep.


Curtal Friar
The REMF sneers at American religion yet it was Truman who wrote Pope Pius in 1947 a letter that stated clearly that America is a Christain nation! JFK reasserted this.

Only Maobama bows to islam and kisses Faud's butt.

sheepdog
I guarantee that the REMF is a tool and would have fit in well with the Stasi!

Hal
You've described yourself pretty well.

You hide behind a fence post...saying hit'im Johnny hit'im Johnny!!...Then run like hell!!

ANYONE SEE
the video of Comrade Maobama flinching when the honor shot was fired?

Or maybe it was when the National Anthem was played!

What a SISSY BOY!

Truth be Known
Truth be known, people like Hal and Mark suffer from a form of dimentia that is very common among women; "Cognitive Distortion." They have an awareness, but it is extremely distorted.

Anyone who claims that the Founders were like current day liberals does not have any intellectual credibility!

In "Capialism and Freedom", Milton Friedman explained, "Because of the corruption of the term liberalism, the views that formerly went under that name are now often labeled conservatism." Friedman went on to state that he would continue to use the word liberalism in its original sense - as the doctrines pertaining to a free man.

Regarding the Constitution, James Madison wrote; "Do not separate text from historical background. If you do,you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."

Welcome to the government advocated by BO and his myrmidons. Their credulity is painfully obvious!

GunnyG©: Good point!

"Only Maobama bows to islam and kisses Faud's butt."


Yet, he and the Moose were "in your face" familiar with Queen Elizabeth...

Just when you think he couldn't possibly be more embarrassing....


ANYONE
catch the fact that the libstream media says NOTHING about US casualties in Iraq?

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/04/msm_now_ignores _american_war_c.html

Maobama said he'd end it, evidently, that was good enough for the lapdog media.

Anne
Hopefully the Dhimmi from Kenya kissed the unwashed side!

GunnyG©: Did you see this???


"Obama's Draft Registration Raises SERIOUS Legal Questions"


http://rightsoup.com/bombshell-obamas-draft-registration-ra ises-serious-legal-questions/


Looks like Obozo might have some 'esplainin to do!

GunnyG
You still working getting Hal Charged under Article 88 of the UCMJ? He just provided more ammo for you with this one.

"I certainly didn't want him killed. All I have ever wanted for Cheney was for him to be in the dock at the Hague where he truly belongs "


Hey! Where did Lost Angle run off to?


Huh? Guess the little racist never served, and in fact is one of those losers who sits back, fat, dumb, and drooling on himself, enjoying all the freedoms that OTHERS guarantee FOR HIM!!



sheepdog: Ruh Roh! doofass-the-dimwit

actually say that???

"I certainly didn't want him killed. All I have ever wanted for Cheney was for him to be in the dock at the Hague where he truly belongs "


Article 88 of the UCMJ? That's pretty serious, isn't it? :-)




LakewoodBob
In addition to "Cognitive Distortion" you reference in your post, most of the liberal trolls who infest our threads suffer from "Unconscious Incompetence", which is loosely defined as:

"They don't know - and they don't know that they don't know."

Really captures them well.


Drunkenhue #74
You wrote: "It is your ilk that has operated against our history and traditions. Our nation's history is one of mutual cooperation and independence and growth. Your heritage is a myth"

I used to think you were just annoying but now I add comical to that definition. I will ignore the abusrdity of that statement and simply focus on your typical libtard belief that if you say something long enough it must be true.

You always make these bald faced allegations and assurtions as if you are the ultimate authority on everything. I belive yesterday in one thread you wrote that you knew energy because you gave speeches to energy companies.

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL.

Hal do you even have a clue how you embarass yourself and the USAF for ever commissioning you?

Dummy: 53 to 46 is not the "American people" and "hope and change" is not closer to what the forefathers wanted. Duh.

Have another drink meathead.

Anne, Sheep, Gunny, Primus et al
All I did was ask Hal a simple question and the doofass answered in a way that he could be charged????

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



And I guess he believes what Obama said earlier too. That this was not a Christian nation...


While I certainly don't wish death on anyone, would a simple fall down the stairs at the White House or maybe a simple teleprompter attack be too much???


SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW
barry DOES NOT see rainbows, his glasses are Green-Green with power.
It's the majority of voters who had and have on Rose colored glasses.
barry proclaimed overseas that America is not a Christian Country. Well,
America may be home to a diverse population, but was founded on Christian values and principles, without which we would never have 'United' or become the Greatest Nation on Earth. Nor, for over 200 years, would millions of people from around the World have flocked to live in the 'Land of the Free' and the 'Home of the Brave'.
barry DOES NOT speak for MY COUNTRY or ME or the MILLIONS of Americans who see him through crystal clear glasses destroying our Nation.

Hal's "wet dreams"

The old drunk from Scranton is obsessed with the dream of Bush, Cheney & Rove tried for crimes against humanity at the Hague.

There is about as much chance of that happening as Hal's other "dreams" he had about the young USAF officers under his care coming true - until his forced retirement.

Hobo Jungle #87
You wrote: "if the founding fathers were so religious, why did they make freedom from religion an option in the constitution? in fact, it was in the very first amendment."

Hate to break it to ya Hobo but the first Amendment guaranteed freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Public education strikes again!

Hey Harold! What about
Section 925. ART. 125. SODOMY

(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration , however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense.

(b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

When you retired in 1990, Bush 41 was POTUS. That’s the year you were forced to retire because of your open advocacy of homosexuals serving in the military. No wonder you hate Bush 43 so much. You were forced to retire after 20 years thus being deprived of a more generous retirement. Actions have consequences Harold and they cost you dearly.

You can obfuscate about this but the truth is the truth.



GunnyG© Federal employee
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 3:16 PM EST
Curtal Friar
The REMF sneers at American religion yet it was Truman who wrote Pope Pius in 1947 a letter that stated clearly that America is a Christain nation! JFK reasserted this."

does this look familiar?
"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

We are a nation of Christians (although in declining percentages)BUT we are NOT a Christian Nation. This is a huge difference.

"...Only Maobama bows to islam ..."

Islam is a good religion

Doofass:
That Article was written to get the Barbary States to sign the Treaty, and not anything else. Learn some history, you sorry, worthless, no class, no account, prevaricating POS.

Hal says
...Islam is a good religion


I bet he thinks every religion, even Wiccan, and the religion of Al Gore are good "religions" too.

Except of course, Christianity...




bobbit
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:05 PM EST
......#74
You wrote: "It is your ilk that has operated against our history and traditions. Our nation's history is one of mutual cooperation and independence and growth. Your heritage is a myth".. I will ignore the abusrdity of that statement and simply focus on your typical libtard belief that if you say something long enough it must be true."

The above is a fact. Do you think that you can settle a frontier and defeat the World's super power without cooperation and reliance on others and a government you are extremely ignorant of life and history

"..You always make these bald faced allegations and assurtions as if you are the ultimate authority on everything. I belive yesterday in one thread you wrote that you knew energy because you gave speeches to energy companies."

Close I worked for and supplied energy companies worldwide. I knew energy markets and had the largest companies as clients. I do not lie


Repub/con=CHICKEN HAWK!!!
Repub/Con=CHICKENHAWK!!

The ** CHICKENHAWKS **

"Chicken Hawks" are people who are enthused about their country engaging WAR – which is why they are called "hawks", – but who make sure that their own butts are nowhere near the fighting – which makes them "Chicken Hawks"


you'll be amazed how many "gung ho pro war" repubs/cons make the list.. check this out


http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/about/chickenhawks.html

willibeaux et. al.
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:17 PM EST
Hey Harold! What about...You can obfuscate about this but the truth is the truth."

I know that you conservative liars attack with outrageous lies the honorable service of anyone standing up to your failed philosophy. All these lies dishonor you folks not me. You may want to see my last post as to why I found a private sector career most attractive.

But Willi boy thank you so much for reminding me that it is almost certainly time to repeal don't ask; don't tell. I will start that effort first thing in the morning. It is time to jettison all these old prejudices

Religion
ALL religions have good and bad. It is the Extremists that give their religion a bad name.

ExRCSD Deputy
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:24 PM EST
Doofass:
That Article was written to get the Barbary States to sign the Treaty, and not anything else. Learn some history..."

Oh???? You mean they denied to satisfy Muslims? Heck all of Congress voted on this. Who was President and signed it? I seem to have forgotten. Separation of church and state is necessary to remain free

BmanIII
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:26 PM EST
Hal says
...Islam is a good religion


I bet he thinks every religion, even Wiccan,,,Except of course, Christianity..."

LOL no I have no problems with most religions. I may have a general aversion to fundamentalists. I have no respect for the religious right which is neither

Charles LPKY
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:39 PM EST
Religion
ALL religions have good and bad. It is the Extremists that give their religion a bad name."

See we agree again

Left Angle
"Chicken Hawks" are people who are enthused about their country engaging WAR – which is why they are called "hawks", – but who make sure that their own butts are nowhere near the fighting – which makes them "Chicken Hawks"

No one is pro war, especially if they have been there. I am conservative, a member of the VFW, and not pro war. I also know war is a last resort and sometimes unavoidable.

So how many years have you served?


Hal
it is not too often we agree.

Help
Someone please explain REMF to me. I was away for a while and when I came back it was plastered all over Doofass but I don't know what it means. I realize that MF may be self-explanatory. I want in on the joke. PLEASE!

Charles LPKY
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:47 PM EST...No one is pro war, especially if they have been there. I am conservative, a member of the VFW, and not pro war. I also know war is a last resort and sometimes unavoidable."

Sadly, you are wrong. I would have agreed with you until Cheney and his boys came to power. They were pro war to a man and not one had served. They were pro war as bad or worse than McNamara. I find it amazing the number of people, not just here, who say "nuke em" etc. They have no concept past a Rambo movie. That is one reason I think the nation should have at least a small draft


charles lkpy...
the issue is people on the right who hypocritcally present themselves ase such "super patriots". They believe that anyone who criticizes the U.S. is anti-american, a communist, or a traitor. In there eyes historically the U.S. has never engaged any conduct that is anything but "above board".

They believe that the "ugly american" is a caricature only, when it is they who epitomize
what it stands for. In reality they absolutely HATE PAYING TAXES AND LOVE GOING TO WAR ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING THE FIGHTING...READ THE WEBSITE PROVIDED FOR RIGHT WING CHICKEN HAWKS...

Sen.Ted Stevens....(Off Topic)
Judicial Misconduct
*******************************************

Judge orders investigation of Stevens prosecutors
Associated Press
April 7, 2009

WASHINGTON – A judge has dismissed charges against former Sen. Ted Stevens because of prosecutorial misconduct and has ordered a criminal contempt investigation of the prosecutors.

“In nearly 25 years on the bench, I’ve never seen anything approaching the mishandling and misconduct that I’ve seen in this case,” U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan said in the opening moments of a hearing.

Sullivan read a stinging summary of the many times the government withheld evidence or mishandled witnesses in the case.

Stevens was convicted of lying on Senate financial forms about gifts he received from wealthy friends. But Attorney General Eric Holder asked that the case be dismissed, saying Stevens did not receive a fair trial.

Stevens narrowly lost re-election just days later, falling to Democrat Mark Begich. He had been in the Senate 40 years, making him the longest-serving Republican senator when he was defeated.

bobbit
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:54 PM EST
Help
Someone please explain REMF to me. I was away for a while and when I came back it was plastered all over Doofass but I don't know what it means. I realize that MF may be self-explanatory. I want in on the joke. PLEASE!"

LOL It means rear echelon MF i.e. a guy well to the rear. I guess they think over 1,000 hours in fighters means way to the rear.

Charles LPKY
"Date: Apr 7, 2009 - 4:54 PM EST
Hal
it is not too often we agree."

Sadly true

LA
the issue is people on the right who hypocritcally present themselves ase such "super patriots". They believe that anyone who criticizes the U.S. is anti-american, a communist, or a traitor. In there eyes historically the U.S. has never engaged any conduct that is anything but "above board".

I have never presented myself as a "Super Patriot", But i am a patriot. I cannot think of anyone i served with that would present themselves as a "Super Patriot". We were Professional Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors and Marines, we answered when America called on us, and did our jobs, well.

Please give examples of what you consider "below Board"

Hey Hal
"Sadly, you are wrong. I would have agreed with you until Cheney and his boys came to power. They were pro war to a man and not one had served. They were pro war as bad or worse than McNamara. I find it amazing the number of people, not just here, who say "nuke em" etc. They have no concept past a Rambo movie. That is one reason I think the nation should have at least a small draft

If you think that Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes, it would make sense to do the same to Clinton for his attack on the Sudan.
I mean after all what military value did the Sudan have? He was just trying to divert attention away from his impending trial.
Your nothing but a hypocrit.

charles..
this isnt about you personally, and i am having a hard time trying to understand why you think it is so. It is about right wing "chickenhawks"
repub/cons who are gung-ho pro war but never bothered to enlist or engage in battle for their own personal reasons..read the chart for the list.

below board behaviour by the u.s.

slavery
dropping the atom bomb on japan

Hal
"Islam is a good religion"? You could not live in an Islamic state because the first time you were having your man sex, it would be "good bye Hal". Hmmm...maybe Islam isn't so bad.

Hal
I am a Libertarian, conservative on Fiscal issues, and a little more moderate on social issues. I believe in a strong National Defense, and capitalism.
I also believe Religion and Politics should not be mixed. One does not need to know a candidates religion to know what the candidate stands for.

Article VI of the Constitution ...no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

I believe in the Constitution

Hey Lost Angle, you still didn't

answer my question....


Did YOU ever serve, ir are you just a "chicken" and in fact one of those losers who sits back, fat, dumb, and drooling on yourself, enjoying all the freedoms that OTHERS guarantee FOR YOU!!



Come on Harold aka
the "Pride of Scranton PA" (one of America's dying cities). Be a stand up guy and admit you violated your oath as an officer and gentleman and the UCMJ when you openly advocated homosexuals serving in the military. That's why you were forced to retire in 1990 with 20 years (and 1/2 pay). Bush 41 was POTUS at the time. That explains your undying hatred of Bush 43.

In a previous posting you stated that you enlisted in 1966 (E-1) and retired in 1990(O-6) with a 4 year hiatus to attend school.

Also you said:

"Under Carter when I tried to leave the Air Force along with so many others I was stopped declared "vital to the national defense" for one year grounds given were aircrew".

Carter was POTUS 1977-1981. Why would you try to get out with only 11-15 years of service?


LA
Slavery was a dark time in our history, but it is just that history. Egyptians enslaved the Jews, i do not see them bring it up anymore. Countless societies have enslaved people, Slavery was wrong, no matter what culture used it.

In WWII we had a choice Drop a couple of ATOM bombs, or send many American fighting men to another beachhead to meet their maker. The loss of life while taking a beach is some of the highest in WWII. America made the right decision by Dropping Fat Mann and Little Boy on Japan. Saved many American lives. Remember America was staying out of WWII until Dec. 7, 1941. The day the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.