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Tuesday, February 24, 2009
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Usurpers
by David Limbaugh
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America's Founders believed that federal power was a necessary evil that would swallow the liberties their ancestors left Europe to obtain unless it was severely limited. But today we seem to have forgotten that freedom cannot survive the unrestrained governmental encroachments that are raining down daily from our nation's capital.

You need not have written a doctoral thesis on the political theories espoused in the Federalist Papers to understand that socialism impoverishes nations despite the professed good intentions of its benefactors. You needn't have a master's in history to realize that America is the freest and most prosperous nation in the history of the world because its prescient Framers devised a constitution that would maximize liberty by imposing restraints on government. And you don't need to be a rocket scientist to grasp that unless we put the brakes on our out-of-control federal government soon, we will go the way of all other great nations before us.

While there has long existed a tension between liberty's usurpers and watchdogs, rarely have the usurpers been in such ascendance. They are in firm control of the executive and legislative branches and are using the full force of the federal government to stack the deck in their favor in perpetuity. Just look at the taxpayer-funded payoffs of defaulting mortgagors, unions, governors, big-city mayors, liberal "public interest" groups, and ever-expanding dependency constituencies, including illegal immigrants.

But why can't they be honest about what they're doing? Have they even tried to dispute the charge that an untold amount of this so-called stimulus money will not be spent in the near future and that much of it, even when spent, will not stimulate? No, because they cannot explain away their subterfuge in such shenanigans as allocating billions of taxpayer dollars to community organizing groups, such as ACORN, whose real function is to secure elections for like-minded "progressives."

It's as if President Barack Obama and Congress were trying to turn us all into conspiracy theorists. Indeed, only the grossly naive believe the usurpers are not calculating their systematic power grabs.

Those with nothing to hide don't mask their intentions in deceitful language, such as establishing deliberately and hopelessly vague yardsticks -- e.g., using "we're going to save or create 3.5 million jobs" to measure the success of the "stimulus" bill -- and calling a mostly pork bill a "stimulus bill that has absolutely no pork," a bill eliminating secret ballots in union voting "the Employee Free Choice Act," Marxist programs "measures to strengthen capitalism," taxpayer-funded health care "free medical coverage," across-the-board cuts in defense spending "shoring up our national defenses," greater-percentage tax cuts for middle- and lower-income groups "tax cuts only for the rich," government-coerced transfer payments "economic justice," the government's bailout of delinquent debtors "an act promoting financial accountability," aggressive, exclusive partisanship "a spirit of bipartisanship," a plan to triple the national budget right before "trimming it back" to levels grossly above where you started "fiscal conservatism," government suppression of political expression "the Fairness Doctrine," appointing one tax cheat after another and lobbyist after lobbyist "a new era for ethical government," already-broken promises to allow five days for public comment before signing legislation "transparency," and a government that singles out and attacks its influential critics "a government of the people."

The usurpers probably want you to believe the "stimulus" bill was passed so quickly our legislators didn't realize what was in it. That's less damning than their willful passage of the indefensible mischief the bill contains. Have you seen just how specific it is in its allocations of money and who is benefiting? Please follow the money.

As our federal government marches ever closer to socialism and Marxism, we might remind ourselves that nearly every dictator in the world is an ardent proponent of those systems. Socialism and Marxism, by definition, cannot come about without major consolidations of power in the central government.

These consolidations, which are invariably sold as democratic and compassionate governments for the benefit and security of the people, result in tyranny and wholesale subjugation of the people. In the name of compassion, or economic stimulus, the federal government gets its tentacles into our local business and begins to micromanage our lives from Washington, whether in education, commerce or even executive salaries for private corporations.

Who knows, the usurpers might even have the audacity to try to micromanage decisions of local governments once they dole out money they steal from taxpayers and their offspring to fund this stimulus ruse.

Oh, I almost forgot: President Obama already told the nation's mayors that if they waste the money he is philanthropically bestowing upon them, he "will call them out on it and use the full power of (his) office and … administration to stop it."

I suppose one man's super watchdog is another's super-duper tyrant.

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David Limbaugh, brother of radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, is an expert in law and politics and author of Bankrupt: The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of Today's Democratic Party.
 
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"TAX THE RICH" FOR DUMMIES
TAX THE RICH? THEY AREN'T GOING TO PAY
They are not the ones who end up paying that tax bill.

http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/02/tax-rich-for-du mmies.html


How generous of you Wobbie
Ranger29 Reply #2
Location: TX Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 12:54 AM EST

"David...you are Rushbo get ready more of your tax dollars are going to help support The Republic"

Robert

Yep Robert you reject, right along with more of everyone else who works for a living.
Only none of it will go to support "the Republic."

Instead it will all go to support Democrat party suppporters, in return for helping the Messiah con his way into the oval office, and people like you who refuse to get off their dead assets and get a job.

Cicero
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor, he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their faces and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
Marcu Tullius Cicero 42 B.C.

Something to think about.

Ranger iq 29
Well Robbie, Rush gets big bucks for his opinion, and you're stuck down here with us poor uneducated rednecks, spewing your ignorance.


Wobbie, I'll make one more exception
to my rule about posting to the mentally handicapped, and reply to you one more time, then I'm done with you.

Rush Limbaugh has given more to CHARITY($500,000 just for Muscular Dystrophy), this year alone, than you'll EARN in your entire lifetime, even if you live to be 100.

So you can TRY to think(since I know you're incapable of actually doing so) from now till the cows come home, and NO ONE will give a rats rear end what you're trying to think about.

On top of that
Rush Limbaugh gave $4.5 MILLION to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation LAST YEAR.

How much did your sorryASS give them?

Nothing?

I thought so.

RangerIQ29
Who cares what you think RangerIQ29? Do you think anyone on this board does? Think again. I hope you see how pi$$ed off people are becoming. Santelli's speech is going to be the beginning. Go over to Malkin's site and read about the ACORN b*tch who really is criminal and thief. ASk yourself what she did with $200,000 refinance surplus that she can't make any payments. It will come out WHO these foreclosure people are once people start asking questions and then we are going to see the ugly underbelly of the usurpers and who the pigs who support them are.

RangerIQ29
The Republic? That died a long time ago, back around the time of the 16th and 17th Amendments and Woodrow Wilson. We've been a socialist state pretty much since FDR, and we're now heading into a totalitarian state--at least if Mr. Obama and his cronies have their way.

If you like paying taxes so much, why don't you give all of your property and income to the IRS instead of demanding the rest of us do so?

PGA301 and Phoenix Lady
I wouldn't get too upset at anything Wobbie the pretend Ranger says. He's the undisputed biggest liar to ever post here on Townhall.

I saw over the weekend where Wobbie posted that he was recently promoted and it was "confirmed by the senate." Given that he's claimed in the past to be a "Captain" in the Navy, a promotion would make him a Rear Admiral(Lower Half).

But I KNOW that that's a lie.

Senator Mark Udall of Colorado is a personal friend of mine from high school when I lived in Colorado. He's also a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, the committee that has to approve all rank promotions for the US Military.

I called him today and he told me flat out that there have been NO recent promotions given to anyone at or above the rank of Captain, in the U.S. Navy.

Want to try that one again, Wobbie?

Liberal Math
Goverment tells me they need 300.00 to pay for education,roads,armies.

I send in 300.00 they spend it on mice and borow
300.00 for education,roads,armies

+300

Next time it's 400 it gets spent on grass and 400 is borrowed for education,roads,armies

+700

Then they need 500 for education,roads,armies
which is spent on condoms and 500 is borrowed

+1200

I decide I'll just send in 100.00, I'm sent to jail for "tax evasion"??

Now I'm told they PROMISE to spend the money on education,roads,armies so I send in 600.00 it
gets spen on parties and they borrow 600 more

+1800

Conservative solution = send less money to liars

Liberal solution = send more money?

As you can see congress has run up and 1800 tab for things it SHOULD have done in the very begining

Conservitive answer = question congress

Liberal answer = blame conservitives

Now I'm told they REALLY REALLY PROMISE to spend the money on education,roads,armies so I send in 800.00 they spend it on vacation

+2600

Now that I'm really pissed off because they are wasting my money what happens

conservative answer = blame congress

liberal answer = Elect Obama the clueless

Result = SPEND 50 TIMES MORE MONEY to achieve the exact same results

Illiterate children
Weakend Military
Colapsing bridges

Oh I almost forgot to send the bill to conservities.

Everybody knows liberals dont pay taxes.



ts spen on parties and they borrow 600 more






Then it's 300.00 it's spent on parties





The Goverment tells me they need 300.00 to pay for education,roads,armies.

150.00 spent on schools - kids are illiterate
100.00 spent on parties - Congess takes vacation
25.00 spent on roads - they collapse
25.00 spent on mice - mice are happy now

Congress sends me a bill for 300.00 to pay for armies???






Liberals can't grasp the concept that the money we send washington comes from citizens for some reason.




David
What's so hard to understand? The rwcons have no elected representation at this time. When you win an election you get your say. When you don't, you get to write columns that only rwcons will read. The usurper is you! BHO's team won the election and have a right to govern.

David says
"America's Founders believed that federal power was a necessary evil that would swallow the liberties their ancestors left Europe to obtain unless it was severely limited."

The founders believed only property owners should vote. They also owned individuals and did not think women should vote. Most modern Americans disagree with the founders on those points. Apparently the voters disagreed with you on this point David.


Correction Marines Dad;Rush Limbaugh gave a lot of rwcon money to the Marines. He gets paid by the dimmoheads of the world.

My Oath of Office

If elected: 1. I take an oath to protect (up hold) the Constitution of the United States
2. As soon as this is done I say screw the Constitution and I want you to know my Oath (my word, my bond) are valueless, empty and have no truth.
3. I am a liar, a cheat, a thief,I have no moral value, a whore (I am for sale).
4. Who am I ? I am the President, the Vice President, a Senator, A House member, a judge,and I will pass and defend laws which will destroy your lives.
5. As for me, I will exempt myself from as much of the trash I pass as is possible.

Obama's stimulus
I went through the Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter years & remember them very vividly. My mother would give me $10 to buy gas. You would have to wake up early in the morning and go to a gas station {remember gas stations were rationed a certain amount of gas to sell and you could not purchase but a limited amount}and park in a long line waiting hours before the station would open to pump a few dollars of fuel. I remember the government intrusion and the high taxes of those years. Double digit interest rates, double digit home mortgages, sky rocketing unemployment, and more government assistance. I remember in our housing development the beginning of building HUD houses. My father was furious because it decreased property value, but also the people who were placed in those home had no intention to pay their minute payment or be good stewards of the proerty. After a short period of time, the houses were delapidated and abused. Drugs and crime increased in our once quiet neighborhood. Why did all this come about--government entitlements and programs! We have seen a generation of people who have been dumbed down and made puppets of the state by government schools. The entitlement programs have made a generation of young people lazy and expect everything to be handed them without hard work or savings. Remeber the Ford and Carter years because that is the direction Mr. Barak Hussein Obama is directing our nation but in a greater capacity.

THE ANTI LIBERAL ZONE
has two sizzlers up this AM.

(Was off yesterday to hunt libs. Reached my bag limit by 12 noon.)

Ranger29
Sounds like you're getting ready to expand your welfare needs under Comrade Dopey.

You should call Rush and ask to debate him.

TROUBLE FOR COMRADE DOPEY
haha. The Kenyan Usurper...

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89837

RELEASE THE VAULT COPY DOPEY!

THE WaPO HITS COMRADE EMPTY SUIT!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/0 2/22/AR2009022202006.html

HAHA! looks like it's becoming clearer to the libstream media just what a half-stepper Dopey really IS!

Not to say I told you so America, BUT!, I told you so a YEAR before the election.

Well, well....
Ranger90210 says:

"I think old rushbo should help pay for The Republic.

He has done little else to help it along...he didnt want to join the military and now he makes a lot of money because of The Republic...

and we have a deficit in part because of policies that he supported.

Heck I think little Limbaugh and Big Limbaugh should be "soaked".

All you suckers will help him make up the difference..."

And yet, he claims to have vast land holdings in Texas and Georgia, claims to be a captain in the Navy (quite a paycheck right there), owns homes and cattle....

Sure looks like he will get "soaked", along with the rest of us.

And he claims to be a conservative...

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

David
"...America's Founders believed that federal power was a necessary evil that would swallow the liberties their ancestors left Europe to obtain unless it was severely limited..."

Nope that was the Articles of Confederation. The Founder's drafted the Constitution because a stronger central government was needed. Large government is only bad if the citizens do not do their job. In November they did indeed do their job and toss failed conservatism into the trash can of history but whine away and gnash teeth all you like.

doofass: Another completely inaccurate

statement....


Socialism , Marxism, Fascism
call it what you will a rather large percentage of the American people seem to want it-they want someone to take care of them cradle to grave. Of course in this last election I do not see where they had a lot to pick from-statists with a D or statists with an R after the name is still statist, or as I prefer, Fascist.

From John McCain's assault on free speech in McCain-Fiengold to "Immigration Reform/ Amnesty" we see he was little better, and less honest, that Obama. So how in the world did he get the nomination?

I try and I try to keep hopeful, but despair does raise it's ugly head. Caesar has crossed the Rubicon and the public seems relieved. As Caesar looted the Public Treasury so does Obama and the knives are being sharpened now to quell dissent.

States Rights and the Enumerated Powers
10 U.S. States governments have passed and 15 more States have initiated Legislation that is intended to cripple Barry Soetero and his Socialist cadres designs. These State Laws are being called "RESOLUTIONS affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles."

The most important thing these State Laws do is re-affirm that the Federal government has no say in 1st Amendment issues or 2nd Amendment issues and that in the future the Constitutionally Enumerated Powers allotted to the Federal government is all they get. These various States Laws also declare outright that any and all Presidential Executive Orders are null & void, as they are insupportable under the U.S. Constitution; that any and all SCOTUS & Federal Court rendering that are violations of the U.S. Constitution are null & void and that any & all legislative actions by the U.S. Congress that are violations of the U.S. Constitution are null and void.
The Laws currently being put into place by the various States of this Republic have to be considered as valid Constitutional Issues, worthy of going to war over - if Obama and his Socialist cadre insist on it.
You either believe this Nation is worth salvaging from the corruption of the Socialist horde that has taken possesion of the Federal government or you don't. God willing the Legislative actions of the various States that form this Republic will be enough to warn off the criminals in Washington and allow restoration of the U.S. Constitution, as the Founders of this Nation wrote it.

States Rights, per the U.S. Constitution and the enforcement of the Constitutionally assigned "Enumerated Powers" is the only peacefull option left to the Patriots of America. Socialism is not an option.

Dwain Cleveland

Hal Drunkard
"The Founder's drafted the Constitution because a stronger central government was needed."

THAT is pure BULLSQUEEZE you triple-vested jackanape.

Trying reading the Federalist Papers. They specifically discuss LESS government is better.

Take your puke back to the Ruffy Huffy Puffy, it might fly there nitwit but not here.

Let me know when you'd like to debate either the Constitution or the Federalist papers, in public and for money.

1. Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

2. Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.

Benjamin Franklin (Founding Father)

So much for your claim meathead.

'Hope and Change Awards©' 2009

Best Movie of the Year: The Flim Flam Man

Best Performance by an Actor: Barack Obama

Best Performance by an Actress: Barney Frank

Best Supporting Actor: Harry Reid

Best Supporting Actress: Nancy Pelosi

Best Technical Adviser: Karl Marx

Best Supporting Groups: ACORN, CPUSA, Congress

Best Cinematography: Main Stream Media

Best Adaptation: Silence of the Lambs

Best Music: 'Obama, Obama, Messiah Obama'

Best Staging: Invesco Field 'The Appearance of the Messiah'

Best Lighting Director: Barack Obama "A light will shine down"

Best Effects: Barack Obama "This is the day the oceans will begin to lower"

Best Boy: Hal Donahue

Best Slogan: 'Yes We Can'


All Rights Reserved: CPUSA©
Communist Party USA

ROG
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 9:01 AM EST
Socialism , Marxism, Fascism
call it what you will a rather large percentage of the American people seem to want it-they want someone to take care of them cradle to grave. "

This is an utter lie again dear drama queen. But we, the people, do have a RIGHT to defend ourselves from runaway greed whether in banking, food or toys. Since the Limbawls, RNCs real leader's keep bringing up immigration, we, the people, also must now address all the illegals you folks used and left


Hal Donahue
You're a Socialist; one of Obamas' "fellow travelers". Your drivel here is amusing , but irrelevent. Go back to your Hollywood blog; at least there the other Obamanations appreciate your misconceptions. Here we know you for what you are; not much of anything usefull.
Oh, and please feel free to call me names and tell me how wrong I am. Your opinion means nothing to anyone but your "fellow travelers".

Dwain Cleveland

Hydrogen Production Engineer
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 9:03 AM EST
States Rights and the Enumerated Powers
10 U.S. States governments have passed and 15 more States have initiated Legislation that is intended to cripple Barry Soetero and his Socialist cadres designs. These State Laws are being called "RESOLUTIONS affirming States’ rights based on Jeffersonian principles."

Has the supreme court tested these?

"...States Rights, per the U.S. Constitution and the enforcement of the Constitutionally assigned "Enumerated Powers" is the only peacefull option left to the Patriots of America. Socialism is not an option."

States rights are defined by the Supreme Court and the Civil War. Hint GA lost that time too



Retired Geek
Your post at 0908 requires a clydism:

"D*MN YOUR HIDE!"

Coffee snorted through the nose is not good!

Note to self: Don't read retired geek's posts while slurping coffee.

GunnyG federal employee
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 9:04 AM EST
....Trying reading the Federalist Papers. They specifically discuss LESS government is better."

Less government is good but read them again you need enough government to function.

"...1. Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

You did that already under the failed presidency you recently followed did you not? It is not us who were sacrificing liberty to be "safe" from terrorists

"...2. Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God."

Oh are you calling for a rebellion my federal employee? Please do answer this one



Hal Donahue
The Supreme Court Of the US cannot "test" a resolution made by a state's legilative body. This resolution is AFFIRMING rights the states already have.

"...a legislature also uses resolutions to exercise one of its binding powers that isn't a lawmaking power." That's from Wiki, by the way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_(law)

A little early for name-calling, isn't it?

Sen.Shelby
The Alabama Republican met with constituents in Cullman County on Saturday, mainly to discuss the economic stimulus bill, which he opposed.

But a local resident asked Shelby if there is any truth to allegations that arose during the presidential campaign concerning Obama’s place of birth, the Cullman Times reported.

“Well, his father was Kenyan and they said he was born in Hawaii, but I haven’t seen any birth certificate,” Shelby said.

“You have to be born in America to be president.”

Shelby is correct in stating that Obama has not released his birth certificate. Instead, Obama’s campaign released his certification of live birth ? not his actual birth certificate. The certification acknowledges birth but does not include such details as place of birth.

State officials in Hawaii sought to stem the controversy during the campaign, claiming that they had checked health department records and determined that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii.

Also, Factcheck.org reproduced an announcement of Obama’s birth that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Aug. 13, 1961, nine days after his birth. It included his parents' address in Honolulu.

Arch-conservative Alan Keyes is among those who allege that Obama has failed constitutional muster to become president. Keyes, a former U.S. ambassador who ran against Obama in 2004 as the Republican Senate candidate in Illinois, said in a recent interview that Obama was born in Kenya.


Hal Drunkard
"Hint GA lost that time too"

And that excites you somehow right? The death of state's right and the rise of the nanny state, that will take care of idiots like you, from cradle-to-grave is somehow a GOOD thing?

America will be FAR better off when we're shed of your ilk.

True Story of the Carter Years

I was in Charlotte, NC.

A gas station had a big sign '$10 Limit'.

The automobiles were lined up for about two blocks.

A young man was walking from car to car collecting the $10 from each automobile.

I was last in line and when I gave him my $10, he started running away as fast as he could.

A Jimmy Carter entrepreneur at work.

Founding Fathers,follow the $ trail;
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."

James Madison

"With respect to the words, "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the details of power connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution…[that] was not contemplated by the creators."

James Madison
Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831 (Madison, 1865, IV, pages 171-172)

That about sums it up..doesn't it?

Following the pork can be done here..check out who's getting the lions share...

http://www.stimuluswatch.org/

OINKing demonrats...





Hydrogen Production Engineer
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 9:13 AM EST
Hal Donahue
You're a Socialist; one of Obamas' "fellow travelers". .."

Well you got one out of two right that is progress. I am a very strong supporter of Obama. I am not a socialist in any shape

"..Your drivel here is amusing , but irrelevent. Go back to your Hollywood blog; at least there the other Obamanations appreciate your misconceptions. Here we know you for what you are; not much of anything usefull."

LOL what next you will accuse me of calling you names? LMAO

"...Oh, and please feel free to call me names and tell me how wrong I am. Your opinion means nothing to anyone but your "fellow travelers"."

LOL yup here it is. typical I just really have difficulty understanding why all you folks are playing the drama queen; I really do not understand this drama and hate

YLG
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 9:30 AM EST
Hal Donahue
The Supreme Court Of the US cannot "test" a resolution made by a state's legilative body. This resolution is AFFIRMING rights the states already have.

"...a legislature also uses resolutions to exercise one of its binding powers that isn't a lawmaking power." That's from Wiki, by the way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_(law)"

Thank you for the explanation. So they are meaningless without the force of law, a gesture?

"A little early for name-calling, isn't it?"

drama queen was meant as a description i.e. over the top rather than an insult. Liar is telling a falsehood and they are

Founding fathers are RIGHT!
"Democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Thomas Jefferson


God forbid we should ever be twenty years without a rebellion. the people cannot be all and always well informed.
The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of facts they misconceive, If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is a lethargy, The forerunner of death to the public's liberty...
And what country can preserve it's liberties if it's rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? ...
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It's natures manure..."

Thomas Jefferson 11/13/1787

"Government is like fire, a handy servant but a dangerous monster"

George Washington

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny,
When the government fears the people, there is Liberty!"

Thomas Jefferson

doofass: You missed my response to YOU

last night..........

Anne
Location: PA
Reply # 541
Date: Feb 23, 2009 - 10:34 PM EST doofass: Exactly my point.. all along.

"Close I am laughing at you folks as I have explained many times "

Really? And how old are you? 12 yrs. old?

You actually think a grown man (and I use the term "man" very loosely!) who spends as many hours a day as you spend on TH, laughing at people, is mentally healthy? Mature?

Hint! Not even close!

Actually, that is typical of only the childish of behaviors, and most people grow out of that in middle school. At least those who show promise of becoming mentally and emotionally healthy, mature, contributing members of society.

However, those who do not, obviously such as yourself, remain childish, and are often narcissistic, a waste of humanity... and I would also venture, one who is incapable to taking care of oneself and therefore happy to see the government take care of them.


GunnyG federal employee
Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 9:33 AM EST..."Hint GA lost that time too"

And that excites you somehow right? The death of state's right and the rise of the nanny state, that will take care of idiots like you, from cradle-to-grave is somehow a GOOD thing?"

The death of slavery and oligarchy were exciting but the price was horribly high. The nanny state? You are working for the nanny state LOL. All I have ever seen "state rights claim" used for was oppression and little else. States have rights but they are NOT sovereign

"...America will be FAR better off when we're shed of your ilk."

Oh how will that happen?

Edna
Yup all those Virginians could see the South losing its influence and slavery being removed

Hey Doofass:
Ever hear of the 9th and 10th Amendments?

9th: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

10th: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Or now that Obumbbler is POTUS are they null and void?

Edna Eagle: Excellent!

Somehow too many... all liberals of course, have missed this, which just happens to be the basis of what our country is!

Limbaugh is right, you don't have to have a Ph.D. or a Masters... you just have to be educated.

Which is the SAME thing I said about recognizing WHAT Marxist Obama was SAYING in every speech he made. All he did was "paraphrase" out of the Marxist Handbook!

And look where we are now!!!


Obama's Missing Birth Certificate.

Soldier doubts eligibility, defies president's orders
'As an officer, my sworn oath to support and defend our Constitution requires this'

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: February 23, 2009
9:35 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
Soldier Scott Easterling

A U.S. soldier on active duty in Iraq has called President Obama an "impostor" in a statement in which he affirmed plans to join as plaintiff in a challenge to Obama's eligibility to be commander in chief.

The statement was publicized by California attorney Orly Taitz who, along with her Defend Our Freedom Foundation, is working on a series of legal cases seeking to uncover Obama's birth records and other documents that would reveal whether he meets the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

"As an active-duty officer in the United States Army, I have grave concerns about the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama to hold the office of president of the United States," wrote Scott Easterling in a "to-whom-it-may-concern" letter.

Obama "has absolutely refused to provide to the American public his original birth certificate, as well as other documents which may prove or disprove his eligibility," Easterling wrote. "In fact, he has fought every attempt made by concerned citizens in their effort to force him to do so."

Hal Donahue
"So they are meaningless without the force of law, a gesture?"

No, they aren't meaningless. Otherwise Congress passing a resolution to go to war would be meaningless, as would the House of Representatives passing a resolution to impeach an officer of the government.

Couldn't be bothered to read the link, huh?

So, by your logic, re: calling names, I suppose GunnyG is giving a description, too? Spin it any way you want, Hal....

Dr Sowell keep shining your light

"If we become a people who are willing to give up our money and our freedom in exchange for rhetoric and promises, then nothing can save us." -- Thomas Sowell


doofass The Marxist-Communist stammers:


"I am a very strong supporter of Obama. I am not a socialist in any shape."


Absolutely right! doofass has blasted way past "Socialism" straight to Marxism, which is why he's a "very strong supporter" of Marxist Obama.




Hal Drunkahue
"Oh are you calling for a rebellion my federal employee? Please do answer this one."

I would call for a rebellion if the government is deemed tyrannical. I support STATES RIGHTS as was originally created by our FF and ALL of our Founding Fathers would support a revolution based on what they would see in YOUR liberal-majority Politboro on the Potomac. 9% approval rating... No Taxation w/o representation and we're NOT represented when YOUR liberal Politboro votes FOR PORKZILLA despite 75% of Americans AGAINST IT!

YOU would support the subjugation of the will of the people, as per your support of PORKZILLA, simply because you're looking for a free ride. S.P.E.C.T.R.E brings home the pork and you chow down.

You truly are a meathead.

Dr Sowell keep shining your light 2

"So many idealistic political movements for a better world have ended in mass-murdering dictatorships. Giving leaders enough power to create 'social justice' is giving them enough power to destroy all justice, all freedom, and all human dignity." -- Thomas Sowell


More Marxist Obama Thuggery!

"Obama's Communist, Radical Muslim, Chicago Mafia style thugs are attacking 4 courageous TN State representatives."

http://defendourfreedoms.us/

GunnyG and YLG
Good morning to ya both!

I see Hal is well into his cups this morning.


TEA PARTY - Washington, D.C.,
Friday, February 27

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192057/posts

Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 1:10:05 PM by trooprally

There is a Washington, D.C. TEA PARTY planned for this Friday.

FReeRepublic is not the primary organizer so please direct your questions to the person/organization in the above link. We are just supporting this great rally against the messiah's kindergarten style presidential rule.

This is a good thread to let others know that you will be there and meet up.

If you are at CPAC, hopefully you can take a little time out of your busy schedule. I know Bev Perlson of Band of Mothers and some of her patriot friends are going.

TEA PARTY DETAILS:

Contact Info
Email: jpeterfreire@gmail.com
Website: http://www.newamericanteaparty.com
When: Friday, February 27,2009
Location: Washington Monument
Time: noon till 2PM

J.P. Freire (Washington, DC), Organizer

Phil Kerpen (Americans for Prosperity), AFP Liaison

YLG
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 9:57 AM EST
Hal Donahue
"So they are meaningless without the force of law, a gesture?"

No, they aren't meaningless....Couldn't be bothered to read the link, huh?"

Missed it thank you

"...So, by your logic, re: calling names, I suppose GunnyG is giving a description, too? Spin it any way you want, Hal...."

LOL mine is based on what is here on its face gunnyg's is an ethnic slur there is a huge difference

Hal Drunkahue
You are working for the nanny state LOL.

Actually little child, I work in the area of national security, AGAIN on the tip of the spear, as I have been since 1979.

While you were buffing seats with your butt, many of us on TH were again, on the tip of the spear against the very system your party is embracing.

While you'll bend over for socialism, we won't.

Obama 'Joint Session Speech'

Barack Obama will give a 'Joint Session' speech tonight.

Does that mean everyone will have to 'Smoke a Joint' while listening to Obama?

One thing is for certain - the Stock Markets worldwide will fall.

When Barack Obama speaks - the Stock Markets fall.

Barack Obama believes that economic failure, will be the success of the Obama administration.

GunnyG federal employee
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 10:01 AM EST
Hal ..."Oh are you calling for a rebellion my federal employee? Please do answer this one."

"I would call for a rebellion if the government is deemed tyrannical."

So you do NOT call for rebellion?

"... I support STATES RIGHTS as was originally created by our FF and ALL of our Founding Fathers would support a revolution based on what they would see in YOUR liberal-majority Politboro on the Potomac."

No, no little fella those states rights died in 1865. The FF would be far more likely to support President Obama than an extreme conservatism that would brand Ronnie as a RINO.

"9% approval rating... No Taxation w/o representation and we're NOT represented when YOUR liberal Politboro votes FOR PORKZILLA despite 75% of Americans AGAINST IT!"

look at the polls little guy look close



Doofass:
When comes to calling people bigoted, you are last "person" who should given your anti-Southern bigotry and hatred.

Anne
GO FOR IT!

I will be on the road and will not be there. (We travel on Friday).

GET EM!

Anne
meant to add...

EMAIL pics to:

libsmustdie@gmail.com

and give me some narrative. It will hit the Anti Liberal Zone.

GunnyG
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 10:16 AM EST
Hal... I work in the area of national security, AGAIN on the tip of the spear, as I have been since 1979."

well is not that nice but I don't believe you. A braggart like you would have told all long ago and would have know well what I did in the military

"...While you were buffing seats with your butt, many of us on TH were again, on the tip of the spear against the very system your party is embracing."

The seat as you know was an ejection seat and that was always the pointy end. You have gone off the tracks little one badly.



Hal Donahue
The term "drunkard" is an ethnic slur???

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ok, that was very funny....deluded, but funny.


Hal's Kin
Here is Henrietta Hughes, kin to our own drunken bum, Hal Drunkahue.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/more-background-on-henri etta-hughes

oops!

http://www.winknews.com/news/local/39518252.html

looks like parasite henrietta hughes could give people kike Rangel, Ghietner, Dash-hole, Kofi Annan, etc, a lesson in liberal scumbaggery.

It would be funny if it was not so pathetic.

Anyone have the link to the schedule

for all the "tea parties?"

Hal Drunkahue
The seat as you know was an ejection seat and that was always the pointy end..

BWHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!

Yeah, right.

The only ejection seat you warmed a**hat was the bar stool in the Zero Club and you only ejected when you fell off of it.

BTW, nice profile in military.com. You ever gonna add UNITS to it?

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHAH! What a poser.

TAXATION w/o REPRESENTATION
Another 410BILLION downrange.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/House-Democrats-propose-410B- apf-14450221.html

The libvermin are drunk with power.

How about this gem:
Benjamin Franklin;

"Democracy is like two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch,
LIBERTY is a well armed lamb contesting the vote!"

Good morning Anne, Curtial Friar, and GunnyG,All fellow Patriots,

Gunny loved your latest blog BTW.

There's going to be a SECOND AMENDMENT MARCH..
see here:

http://www.secondamendmentmarch.com/



Shine on all...This is one battle for LIBERTY we can not afford to lose..(back later)

Hal Drunkahue
It's not ethnic slur wingnut.

The bottom line is that you are an embarrassment to the human race. That you rose as high as you did in the AF is only due to your "buddy" and you know who I'm talking about.

Had he not been there for you, you would have been cashiered long before. It should be noted that YOU were in violation of Art 88 throughout the Bush years as a commissioned officer taking a stipend (pension). Too bad the AF lacked the balls to court-martial you.

Edna Eagle
Please keep me abreast of the SA March.

libsmustdie@gmail.com

IT ONLY TAKES ONE

No problem Gunny
Keep at the "drunkard" it's makes for great light reading...LOL

Fight on
Edna

New American Tea Party:


http://www.newamericanteaparty.com

Atlanta, Georgia
Chicago, Illinois
Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
Fayetteville, North Carolina
Houston, Texas
Kansas City, Kansas
Philadelphia, PA
Washington, D.C.


SUCK THIS LIBS
Obama joins Clinton, however, as the only two elected presidents in Gallup's polling history to watch the balance of opinion become more negative as Americans see them in action through their first month.

BWHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

Edna Eagle
The sad thing is, is that the fool actually believes his drivel! That they take the clown seriously at Ruffy Huffy Puffy would be funny if it wasn't so d*mning of our education system.

You'll note how quickly he redirected from my offer to debate the Constitution/Federalist Papers for money.

What happened to this?
"The powers delegated by this constitution, are appropriated to the departments to which they are respectively distributed: so that the legislative department shall never exercise the powers vested in the executive or judicial; nor the executive exercise the powers vested in the legislative or judicial; nor the judicial exercise the powers vested in the legislative or executive departments."

James Madison

Lincoln,FDR,et al

GunnyG© "The libvermin are drunk with

power." And doofass has an ongoing head-start!



Check your incoming... :-)

GunnyG© & Edna Eagle:

doofass and the rest of these intellectually limited liberals are EXACTLY what Dr. Rossiter was talking about...

Not very bright, and only able to look at and decipher information with an very immature cognitive process.

These liberals cannot understand the Constitution and what the Founding Fathers intended anymore than a 1st grader is able to understand analytical trigonometry.



Gunny
Hal's Kin
Here is Henrietta Hughes, kin to our own drunken bum, Hal Drunkahue.

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/more-background-on-henri etta-hughes

oops!

http://www.winknews.com/news/local/39518252.html

looks like parasite henrietta hughes could give people kike Rangel, Ghietner, Dash-hole, Kofi Annan, etc, a lesson in liberal scumbaggery.

It would be funny if it was not so pathetic.

*********

Thanks for the info. I forwarded it with a nice letter to Representative Nick Thompson asking him to have his staff do due diligence and out this parasite.

Let's see if he answers me!

Lib (Libertarian that is)
WELL DONE!

That's how we remove parasites, one bot-fly maggot at a time.

THIS JUST IN
Biden's sons in bed with Ponzi Scammer.

A fund of hedge funds run by two members of Vice President Joe Biden's family was marketed exclusively by companies controlled by Texas financier R. Allen Stanford, who is facing Securities and Exchange Commission accusations of engaging in an $8 billion fraud.


The $50 million fund was jointly branded between the Bidens' Paradigm Global Advisors LLC and a Stanford Financial Group entity and was known as the Paradigm Stanford Capital Management Core Alternative Fund. Stanford-related companies marketed the fund to investors and also invested about $2.7 million of their own money in the fund, according to a lawyer for Paradigm. Paradigm Global Advisors is owned through a holding company by the vice president's son, Hunter, and Joe Biden's brother, James.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,499067,00.html

I wonder how much they contributed to Dopey/Plugs?


Anne...Touche' Gunny, side bet?
Anne,
Their pea-brains are so emotionally guided that they'll never be able to utlilize logic and facts.

At Gunny...I can't make a side bet that the drunkard would debate you...It's against my principals to throw money away. Since knowing your abilities wouldn't allow for fair handicapping (drunkard)..I'll not send good money after bad! ;)

HEY LIBS
When ya gonna drain that swamp of corruption?

Fraud allegations swirling around Texas billionaire R. Allen Stanford last week drew attention to his contributions to Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-St. Albans) and to House Ways and Means Committee chairman Charles Rangel (D-Manhattan). A Rangel spokesman said $10,800 that Stanford contributed over the years would be donated to charity.

Actually, libs, it was $25K but who's counting.

HUMAN PARASITES SPOTTED
Three and one-half years after Katrina there are still 17,000 former New Orleans parasites living in hotels and motels. They've been there for 42 months.

8,000 people are still living in temporary housing.

Human parasites aka liberals.

Dopey just gave these parasites ANOTHER 60 days for FREE living in their hotels, motels and temporary housing.

Must be nice. YOU KNOW THEY'RE CORE LIBERAL VOTERS

dr. duffus
"In November they did indeed do their job and toss failed conservatism into the trash can
of history but whine away and gnash teeth all you like."
======================
Conservatism has not failed. While reading the federalist and the anti-federalist papers, I found that both sides feared the rise of a"majority faction" (an unjust tyrannical majority). Our so called news media failed. A free press guaranteed by the first amendment was to to hold our politicians accountable. When the MSM crawled up obama's tush, they created a void that allowed a "majority faction" to arise.

Thankfully, the Founders had the foresight to install the second amendment in case this happened.


Sorry
That should have been "hal", but what the h*ll, they're all the same.

Barack Obama "I Won"


The Barack Obama administration wants to give $900 million to the United Nations to rebuild Palestine - the UN promises NOT to allow any of the money to go to HAMAS.

Isn't HAMAS in charge of Palestine?

Didn't HAMAS support Barack Obama's campaign?

Barack Obama always pays those who helped him win the Presidency.

Left Dingleberry
Check my post at 1053.

Your boy is right on track! Him and BJ Bubba.

DOPEY MCCHANGE INCREASES
deficit to highest level since WW2.

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/papers/2009/0219_ fiscal_future_gale/0219_fiscal_future_gale.pdf

So much for prosperity Left Dingleberry.


The Usupers
This is a moral problem - with no moral foundation everyone does as he wishes, hears what he wishes to hear. We have pushed God out of the public square and are seeing the results. Our public officials, our financial institutions are no longer restrained by the culture's moral code being grounded under God, the Judeo-Christian foundation of our founding fathers. Instead we look to Hollywood for our morals.

The STOCK MARKET

Retired Geek: the spoils system?
"Barack Obama always pays those who helped him win the Presidency.

R. Geek, Im sure youre familiar with the "spoils sytem" correct?

so what makes Prez Obama any different than any recent repub prez's reagan, bush#1 & 2?

Did they NOT reward those whom supported them win the presidency?


ANOTHER State Joins the Pack

A REBELLION?
Guns are flying off the shelves.
Ammo is flying off the shelves.
All since the polls indicated Obama would be our dictator. Our country is even more divided.
Could it be a preparation for battle? Are we going to have to fight for our freedom again?
Just a suggestion for you gun hating libs: you may want to go out and get you some!

Barack Obama Judgment ?

The Barack Obama 'Judgment' strikes again.

Janet Napolitano is now in charge of 'Homeland Security'?

She vetoed several tough illegal immigration bills put forward by state Republicans.

Arizona under her watch, became the second highest kidnapping area in the WORLD.

Napolitano has been skeptical that building a fence along the border will solve the immigration problem. She once said, “You build a 50-foot wall, somebody will find a 51-foot ladder.”

Barack Obama has 'Consistently' shown bad judgment in his choices of friends, alliances and associates and Cabinet members.

How can anyone trust Barack Obama to keep America safe?

LA & doofass are the epitome of the

intellectually limited childish liberals...

LA laments, "Sour grapes, Sour grapes, Sour grapes, Sour grapes, Sour grapes, Sour grapes."

doofass stammers and has his little temper tantrums because he's not bright enough to comprehend what the Founding Fathers intended when they wrote the Declaration and the Constitution.

As I said, it's like trying to explain understand analytical trigonometry to a 1st grader.

And, it goes right up to the White House... "I won! I won! I won! I won! I won! I won! I won! I won!"

Well, Marxist Obama will have a good visual on Sat. with "New American Tea Parties" going on all over the country!





THIS JUST IN
Dopey McChange DISAPPROVAL rate UP to 24%.

1 month average for new POTUS' is 16%.

Up from 12% in January!

(LA Times poll)

1 out of 4 say NOBAMA!

GunnyG: banking on failure
gunny prez obama has been in office for one month and you are already our pronouncing him a
"failure"? you guys are too darn funny..beyond words really...

let me ask you do you sit there on a daily basis with a checklist/note pad, watching and listening for EVERY perceived misstep Prez Obama or the Dem congressional leaders Pelosi & Reid make in a game of GOTCHA!!!?

YOU ARE GOING TO DRIVE YOURSELF CRAZIER THAN YOU ALREADY ARE.

AT ANY RATED: CHECK THIS OUT

from Real Clear Politics

RCP Average 02/17 - 02/22 -- 63.0 27.8 +35.2

Gallup 02/20 - 02/22 1500 A 62 25 +37

ABC News/Wash Post 02/19 - 02/22 1001 A 68 25 +43

CBS News/NY Times 02/18 - 02/22 1112 A 63 22 +41

Rasmussen Reports 02/20 - 02/22 1500 LV 58 40 +18

CNN 02/18 - 02/19 1046 A 67 29 +38

FOX News 02/17 - 02/18 900 RV 60 26 +34

Al those numbers look good to me..whats your beef?

AL
Montana just joined the pack of other states passing resolutions for their rights against the Feds!

RESIST OBOMINATION!

Left Angle
Of course they look good to you, that's the approval rate.

Look at the rising DISAPPROVAL rating. That is where the real story is.

Add that to YOUR PARTY's Politboro on the Potomac's DISAPPROVAL rating of 91% and it AIN'T looking good for you dummycrats.

you'll be lucky if we're not hunting you down by 2010.

GunnyG-AnneRGeek-EEagle-CFriar-Others
It seems like just a few months ago that Liberal Demotards like Hal Drunkahue were saying deficit spending was a BAD IDEA! WAIT A MINUTE! It was just a few months ago! LMAO! HIC! I guess it is different when a Half-breed Halfwit is doing it. WHERE OH WHERE is Hal Drunkahue with all of these ETHICALLY CHALLENGED LIBERALS running loose? I guess if they get campaign money from Anhueser Busch it is OK with the Bishop of Budweiser. I have had insomnia lately, but something tells me I will fall asleep early tonight.

Anne, send GunnyG another Email and see what he thinks about what we discussed?

Anne: and you the epitome of..
a SOS right winger... (S0S=stuck on stupid)

your "great intellect" doesnt comrehend, disbelives or doesnt accept that the GOP LOST THE PREZ ELECTIONS, ARE THE MINORITY IN THE THE U.S. CONGRESS.

Therefore you dont call the shots, set policy or distribute the spoils of victory.

and that is driving you absolutely nuts, and I am enjoying every minute of it. lmao


one more thing..your lunatic conspirace theorites are YOUR OPINIONS NOT FACT...LOL

Change you can believe in
...at an all time low

GunnyG
BTW did you hear that Hal Drunkahue threw a hissy fit? Someone found his address in Scranton, a few of us mentioned it on TH and he FREAKED! The Bishop of Budweiser ran to the moderators wetting his drawers all the way. I have no sweat with the moderators enforcing protocols. HOWEVER, for Hal Drunkahue to CLAIM he is the bravest man on TH because he uses his real name and to them get his XXL knickers in a twist seems a tad disingenuous.

Anne
What do you expect from a PS graduate in a Blue State like Maryland.

Left Angle
Just how much are you getting from the bailout?

GUNNY
In the words of Frank Zappa..."movin' to Montana soon..."
Do you know what other states are in that pack?

Something to Lighten your day

This link is NOT about Politics.

This is a link showing a 'Genius' making highway art.

The art is so realistic that it causes cars to stop.

Enjoy.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1153004/M ind-crevasse-The-amazing-3D-pavement-art-pedestrians-edge.h tml

Georgetwin
I found his address A YEAR ago in open sources.

He's a loser and a total idiot.

How this guy became a chicken colonel in the AF continues to amaze me.


Left Angle seems to think that Obama

won an election for "DICTATOR!"

Well, surprise!!! :-) It was a PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION!

That does NOT mean that Bozo, or the dumbo Congress has the Constitutional authority to do what it's trying to do.


But, the Constitution... and another surprise for ya, bucko, we STILL have our Constitution, specifically provides for "WE THE PEOPLE" to make our dissatisfaction known.

Now, little lefty lunatic, perhaps instead of shooting off your mouth (as you seem to always be doing!) you might want to take a little time and read the Constitution.

You'll be amazed!
Here, I’ll even help you. Try this:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overvi ew.html


And then click on Amendments…

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Enjoy! :-)

Dopey's Change
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96I2N980&show_arti cle=1

Now let's HOPE that he doesn't destroy America.

Obama success is Failure of America

Barack Obama has great confidence in his 'False Image' that was elected POTUS.

It is the real Barack Obama that he detests and loathes.

The 'Real Barack Obama' is nothing more than a 'ShamWow' salesman for his created image that doesn't exist in the real world but does exist in his fantasy world - the image is what his worshipers elected.

Obama the 'Narcissist' has detailed his lack of identity, self-worth and self-esteem in his books and interviews.

Obama the 'Narcissist' feeds his 'Needs' from the feedback of his followers and anyone who will listen to him and praise him.

Obama finds his 'self induced' visions of grandeur hard to maintain. Obama does NOT like any challenge to 'His Reality'. Obama is NEVER himself but identifies with the image of his 'Reality'.

Obama believes any challenge that would ask him to account for his actions, decisions or positions, is 'Unacceptable' and does NOT give him the 'Reverence' he so justly deserves.

Obama wants everyone to look at him with admiration, gratefulness and awe, to feed his insatiable appetite to feed his inner lack of self-worth and self-esteem.

Obama will sacrifice anything and everyone that does NOT contribute to his self-image.

Obama will be 'Ruthless' towards anyone or anything that does NOT acknowledge that Obama is 'The One'.

Obama will NEVER be satisfied with just Americans proclaiming 'Obama is the ONE', he seeks the acknowledgment of the 'Entire World'.

Barack Obama believes the 'Destruction of America', will be the success of the Obama administration.

Anne
Libs don't have TIME to read the Constitution or the Federalist papers. They get their brain dump from Comrade Zero and set their mouths on SPEW.

LA the child stammers: "and that is

driving you absolutely nuts, and I am enjoying every minute of it. lmao"

Actually no. What makes me absolutely nuts is truly stupid people, such as yourself.

Exactly how mature are you that you would derive "happiness" because someone else... or the Conservatives in general are unhappy with our country being taken down the drain.


Basically, as Americans, we will ultimately be looking back on this in one of two ways.

1. Barack Hussein Obama, America's first black president who DESTROYED America.

or

2. Barack Hussein Obama, America's first black president who "ALMOST" DESTROYED America.


Either way, you boy Obama is NOT going to have a legacy to be proud of.


Anne states to LA

Exactly how mature are you that you would derive "happiness" because someone else... or the Conservatives in general are unhappy with our country being taken down the drain.

Anne he doesn't believe the country is going down the drain. As far as conservatives being unhappy, I would state that that is a clear sign we are going in the correct direction. I'm sorry that makes you unhappy but that's what happens when you lose an election. Especially rwcons. 2008 was not a good year for you. And your plan to get reelected is to COMPLAIN at TH?

Anne
Dopey the Carter clone is going to be the most reviled POTUS in our history. In ONE MONTH his DISAPPROVAL rate went from 12% to 24%.

Jimmy the Dhimmi HAS to be loving this.

ANNE: Oh it's driving you nuts alright.
because every day you are in here sqawking about
what pres obama and the dem led congress "are trying to do"..

which in your far right wing lunatic world is
"destroy america and turn it into a marxist socialist/communist state"..

you dont get it anne..most if not all the dems/libs who venture into this space think that you are mentally unstable...

your entire premise that "prez obama ran for president with the intent to destroy america"
in and of itself is sheer lunacy. if the shoe fits wear it, dear..lol

STRIKE THREE
DOPEY IS OUT!

haha.

ANOTHER nominee down the tubes.

Gary Locke-former Governor of Washington and now lobbyist for a firm that does a lot of business in China-who may have to be thrown under the bus. Why? The old Clinton-Gore connection to the Buddhists. And a close association with former Clinton era fundraiser and convicted felon John Huang who raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Locke.

Small wonder Hitlery was pandering to the ChiCom's over Tibet this weekend.

wrongsrong52: WHAT? "... a clear sign we

are going in the correct direction."

It's been obvious for a long time that you were NOT the brightest bulb on the porch, nor the sharpest knife in the drawer...

But that statement alone proved that you're far dumber than we even thought!

In fact, the group of intellectually limited trolls who go out of their way to log onto TH demonstrate, not only a regular but also a frequent basis, just how ignorant the liberals are about just about everything.

Just yesterday one of YOU guys couldn't quite grasp that by LAW no president could send the Nat'l Guard into any state without a formal request from the governor of that state!

That's a "States Rights" issue and law, and that law guaratees "States Rights."

Yes, you and your intellectually limited liberals are ignorant and uneducated.


David Limbaugh wines...

“But why can't they [Liberal Socialists] be honest about what they're doing?”

Please David, If you and Rush had backed Huckabee instead of “Unfit-Mitt” Romney, the Republicans might have hung on to the party base and kept the “Obamanation” from ever gaining control of the executive branch of government in the first place.

(See http://rushtellthetruth.blogspot.com/2008/08/open-letter-t o-rush-limbaugh.html)

http://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/PressRelease.aspx?Pre ssReleaseID=2239

So tell us David, are you and your brother going to be “HONEST” with Conservatives in 2012 or it is going to “Business as Usual” as in more Country Club Republicans from the Liberal N.E. Wing of the party?

Note: With apologies to my friend ANNE from PA, but even when I agree with the Limbaugh brothers points, I have a hard time with their hypocrisy that leaves Neo-Cons in charge of your party.

Michael W
“Reagan Democrat”


LIBS 2 TRAMPLE
Constitution yet again.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/24/dc-voting-rights -advocates-smell-victory/

This is a clear-cut violation of the United States Constitution Article 1 Section 2.

DC is not a state, never should be a state, and should go back to being a city where Federal business is done, not a home for Dhimmicrat drones.

Anne
that's correct. If you, Anne, a rwcon, are unhappy with the direction BHO is taking then I am pleased he is on the right track. I don't like your agenda. I don't like your policies. I don't like your values. Simple as that. I disagree with your position as did most Americans.

As far as one of my guys not understanding the Law, so what. Take it up with him. Don't lump me in with him. I understand that.

DOPEY TAKES A
one-two punch.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/02/will_samantha_p ower_have_a_rol.html

looks like Dopey is working to pay off Hamas for working those phone banks for him.

J-10
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 11:38 AM EST
dr. duffus
"In November they did indeed do their job and toss failed conservatism into the trash can
of history but whine away and gnash teeth all you like."
======================
Conservatism has not failed. While reading the federalist and the anti-federalist papers, I found that both sides feared the rise of a"majority faction" (an unjust tyrannical majority)..."

Sure they did and I do too as should everyone. That is why I fear that we are becoming a one party system because conservatives are now running the Republican Party out of existence.

".. Our so called news media failed. A free press guaranteed by the first amendment was to to hold our politicians accountable. When the MSM crawled up obama's tush, they created a void that allowed a "majority faction" to arise."

There is no majority faction yet but if you folks continue on this course there will be as you folks drive yourself into the fringe. The media did their job you didn't

"...Thankfully, the Founders had the foresight to install the second amendment in case this happened."

LMAO someone above grumbled about rebellion etc You sissies lose elections and drive the country into bankruptcy and crash the economy then cry for rebellion. You can't run a country you certainly won't be able to run a revolt

LefTangnle
Did I read what you said correctly?

"..distribute the spoils of victory."

Really? So this is what you would reduce the country to, and it seems you are not alone. As one of the victors you believe you should now call the shots. I honestly thought we still lived in a representative Republic. You describe it as a mob.

Any word on when you expect introducing the gullotine or is that none of our business also.

Mr. Obama may not have run for president with the intent on ruining America, but if he continues spending at the pace he has in just the last 4 weeks he will bleed us to death. Tell me, how many more days do you believe we can sustain this spending frenzy?

Oh by the way, I know you love laying this at the feet of GW Bush but why did the economy crater after the Dems took Congress? Oh, this was all set in motion by Bush, happenstance just accidently had it fail with the Dems in power, yeah, keep telling yourself that. And why is it every time Mr. Obama opens his mouth the DOW falls further.

Yeah, he's a real beacon of hope and change, everytime he speaks it's to tell us how bad things are, the man hasn't shown the first sign of optimism yet. Oh, that's right, he's a Dem, optimism is not allowed.

Hal the Tosser
"You sissies lose elections and drive the country into bankruptcy and crash the economy then cry for rebellion."

Actually boozerat, it was two liberals running against one another. We Conservatives lost nothing.

Did you happen to notice in your alcoholic fog that your boy Hopey Dopey Changey DOUBLED the deficit in ONE EVENT?

Not just that but you libs want to spend ANOTHER 430 BILLION!

YOUR PARTY has had control of the Politboro on the Potomac since Jan 07 and thus, YOU OWN THIS you blithering idiot.

Doofass:
Did the media do the proctolical exam on Obumbler that it did on Palin?

correction
proctological

GunnyG federal employee
Is still spewing hate, dissension and lies. You know three of my units I told them to you when you got caught saying you knew people who knew me and I was an admin type.

Look stop screaming and try and repair the country. Limbawl gives you "facts" and you swallow good grief talk about sheeple

Twit Twins Loony Angle & wrongsrong52:

Loony Angle giggles like the FOOL he is....
If LA had a functioning brain, and the intellect and maturity of at least a 4th grader, he or she would understand...

But alas, he has none of the above!!!

And, if he had even the least bit of education and knew what Marxism is, he'd understand that from the beginning Bozo was paraphrasing right out of the Marxist Handbook.

However, we know all too well what an idiot LA and the other intellectually limited lunatics are.

"you dont get it anne..most if not all the dems/libs who venture into this space think that you are mentally unstable..."

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA... Whew! Well, at least I know that I'm on the right track. I'd shoot myself if the dems/libs agreed with me.



wrongsrong52:
"I don't like your values. Simple as that. I disagree with your position as did most Americans."

Well, you're entitled not not like my values, JUST AS I AM ENTITLED TO NOT LIKE OR AGREE WITH YOURS.

However, as a typical liberal idiot, you would rather shut down any and all thinking that you don't agree with!

THAT, you FOOL, is exactly what happens in a Marxist-Communist state. Free thought is prohibited!

So, without realizing it, you've proven exactly what we Conservatives have been saying all along... Either you're too stupid to comprehend what's going on, or you're truly a Marxist-Communist.

And btw, thanks for playing. As much as a nuisance as you and your idiot friends are, you never fail to prove our points.





Ray: exactly..
evidently you are ignorant as to how the american system of government works...basically it is this: MAJORITY RULES...

and when you win elections and control the white house, the prez calls the shots and sets policy..having a congress controlled by
the same party is icing on the cake especially if you have a veto proof supermajority of 60 votes in the senate, which dems are very close to achieveing in 2010 if all goes well.

also when your party wins elections you indeed are in a position to award jobs, etc. to your supporters. its called the spoils system.

THAT IS HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS. DEAL WITH IT.

Lost Anus:
No it's called Civil Service.

ExRCSD Deputy
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 2:02 PM EST
Doofass:
Did the media do the proctolical exam on Obumbler that it did on Palin?"

Yes there was nothing at all. Your press even tried to make something out of what their was and failed i.e. terrorist friend. The American people were not buying it. Heck he wrote two books for goodness sake

ExRCSD Deputy
Good afternoon


Is Jack's Place down?


Hal the Tosser
"Look stop screaming and try and repair the country."

4 BILLION to ACORN is helping the US?

Hundreds of millions for STDs?

This rebuilds the economy?

Spending 250K to MAYBE create a JOB?

Do I need to point out the HUGE amount of PORK in PORKZILLA that YOUR PARTY created, rammed through, and signed off on?

75% of America said NO! YOUR PARTY said YES.

EXCESSIVE taxation w/o representation.

GunnyG-Anne-ExRCSD-Ray-Others
The clock is running on the Sail Eared Simpleton and it is only a matter of time. Notice you don’t see that Toothy Smile in recent pictures. Notice Plastic Surgery Piglosi and Scary Screed are nowhere to be seen. They are in Deep Kim-Chi and THEY KNOW IT!

Don’t bother with LithiumAngle. He is do dense he thinks a dictator is a man with a potato down his pants.

GunnyG
"How this guy [Hal Donahue] became a chicken colonel in the AF continues to amaze me."

Perhaps the Peter Principle had something to do with it?

As for former president Carter, you just KNOW he is dancing around in his Wayfarers and Fruit-of-the-Looms, screaming, "WHOO HOO!!! I'm no longer the worst president, evuh!!"

;)

BMAN!!!!
Nope, place is up and running!

;)

Doofass:
No it did not, and you damned well know it. And I suspect that he had one helluva ghost writer.

BMan, no itsn't, and there's a good crowd there now

wrongsrong52: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

This is just so great! It takes so little to make you and "your intellectually limited liberal guys" walk into a trap and make YOURSELVES prove that you're the IGNORANT
FOOLS you are! :-)

"As far as one of my guys not understanding the Law, so what. Take it up with him. Don't lump me in with him. I understand that."

Well, obviously YOU didn't, and don't understand that law or anything else for that matter. :-)

YOU were among the many ignorant idiots who blamed Pres. Bush for NOT sending the Nat'l Guard into LA before he did....

But, had you known about that particular LAW, you would have known that the then gov. of LA, Kathleen Blanco, refused to formally request that Pres. Bush send in the Nat't Guard until it was too late.

In fact, you boob, Pres. Bush CALLED your idiot dumbo gov. of LA, Kathleen Blanco, two or three times and begged her to make that formal request so he could send in the Nat'l Guard before it was too late.... but did she? NO, SHE DID NOT!

Anyone with a functioning brain would have known that. But you either didn't (which is probably the case) or you were and are so insanely obsessed that you're unable to think clearly.

Take your pick, 'cause either one renders you an ignorant idiot.


loser repubs
you just can't deal with the fact our messiah has won and that you have lost and will continue to lose.

The president is the leader of a world wide movement to make the globe a better place. His first stop was america where his will fix the world's worse exploiter of others and biggest enemy to global warming.

Those on the right just can't deal with the fact we have the most intelligent president ever and the one with the vision to repair all the damage done these past 8 years by bush the torturer.

Under our messiah there will be justice for the poor, the environment will be saved and the stimulus will lead to a very strong economy and growth for america.

The repubs need to quit whining and join with our savior who has been sent by god to lead us at this time. This was foretold by the wise nancy pelosi. And with a dem majority in congress sharing obama's vision america will be restored to greatness

LOL

Hal the Tosser
So relating FACTS and the TRUTH is hate?

Hmmm. The Ministry of Truth might have a job for you.

"War is Peace," "Freedom is Slavery," "Ignorance is Strength."


GunnyG federal employee
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 2:16 PM EST
Hal ..."Look stop screaming and try and repair the country."

4 BILLION to ACORN is helping the US?

Hundreds of millions for STDs?

This rebuilds the economy?"

Yes actually it does far more than more tax cuts for me would

"Spending 250K to MAYBE create a JOB?"

this is the same argument used against the WWII GI Bill

"Do I need to point out the HUGE amount of PORK in PORKZILLA that YOUR PARTY created, rammed through, and signed off on?"

Pork? that is not pork that is rectification and rebuilding needed social and physical infrastructure

75% of America say Republicans opposed the stimulus for purely political reasons


Harold F Donahue
I thought you Communists were too Enlightened, Sophisticated and Urbane to believe in God?

UPCHUCK SCHUMER
demands all states take a bite of PORKZILLA!

Libs ALWAYS have to make their crap MANDATORY.

What a slimy scumbag.

gunnyg
why are so afraid of our messiah's coming success. His vision and intelligence will create a better america for all.

you repubs have a choice, get on board or get out of the way. We don't need you but will treat you better than you ever treated the poor you exploited

LOL

YLG
INDEED!

The Peter Principle was WRITTEN for Hal the Drunkard.

If I wasn't bored, I would not even bother responding to the idiot.


GunnyG©: doofass is so limited that he

doesn't get what an absolute incompetent idiot his messiah is...

doofass won't even acknowledge that less than 48 HOURS after Bozo's coronation, he used his newly acquired Emperor (Exec.) Order pen, he signed an order to close Gitmo.

And when all but Murtha was saying, "Not in my backyard..." Bozo trotted out one of his spokespersons was forced to admit... and I QUOTE.....

"… he hasn't yet fully explored the potentially negative consequences...it is more complicated than it first appeared."

In the REAL WORLD, that would get anyone FIRED, ON THE SPOT!!!



GunnyG federal employee

GunnyG© Location: VA
Reply # 141
Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 2:35 PM EST
Hal the Tosser
So relating FACTS and the TRUTH is hate?"

It certainly can be at least that is what you said when I was talking about Southern history

GunnyG
The Don ofass actually violated the Peter Principle. He is way beyond his level of incompetence. He reached that in Pre-K.

GunnyG
So Schmuck Schumer DEMANDS does he! He should be told GFY!

BTW isn’t it FUNNY the number of BLUE States that are having financial problems?

GunnyG© & Deputy: Is it true...????

I've been hearing that before one can actually qualify as a liberal that one has to take and IQ test and FAIL!

I guess my real question is, does that apply to ALL liberals, or just the intellectually limited liberals who come to TH?




harold f donahue
Good satire tr.

The only problem is, is that the bum from scranton BELIEVES that pablum.

Of course he still thinks Hanoi John Fonda Kerry is a patriot.

Harold F Donahue
You are RIGHT! His idea of moving those MUDERING PALESTINIAN ANIMALS to America was BRILLIANT!

What other drizzles…er…Brainstorms does the Sail Eared Simpleton have in store for us?

ExRCSD Deputy
As the drunk would say: "LMAO!"

Doofass:
What you know about Southern History could fit in a very very small thimble with room left over for a finger. What you don't know would fill the four oceans 1000000 over.

LIBS TO HOLD
Senate Truth hearings on Bush.

Please please please libs throw dat rabbit in the briar patch.

As they overreach, American's anger grows.

Anne
The Liberal IQ Test consists of putting a Democrat in a Round Room and telling them to pee in the corner. If they wet their pants, they are a Liberal.

GALLUP POLL TODAY
has Dopey's approval rate at 59%.

This is the same approval rate of Carter at this point in his presidency!

Serve it up libs, Carter Part Duex!

MWAHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHA!

Oh My..It's getting UGLY round here
I had stuff to do and came back and saw Ginsberg wrote an anti-gun majority ruling for SCOTUS
The drunkard is still at it

And the elected socialist is running his yapper again tonight...(like the jerk ever shuts up long enough to listen to anyone but himself)..

and it looks like rain

UGLY news...yup...UGH-LY

DOPEY ON THE WAY DOWN
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116077/Obama-Job-Approval-Dips-B elow-First-Time.aspx

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

This Just In.

Nov 2010, liberals are swept out of power in a massive landslide. Early reports has them hunted down like vermin. Obama is a lame duck as America experiences a misery index OVER the Carter years.

Georgetown
I live in a blue state and it rivals my native state Mass for corruption and taxes. Our Dipsy Doofus Doyle is about to tootle off to Spain to check out high speed trains because he's got the bright idea that will be good for this state. Of course, a nice European vacation couldn't hurt either, since it's on our dime.
We just got our new mortgage payment notice, yep
taxes have gone up, we bought this when my husband had a good job, and it's a modest house,
but he was forced into early retirement..partly because the paper trade wasn't what it used to be..you know business taxes and environazism.
So now we are on a fixed income. This thug
erstwhile guv. refused the Republican's idea
of having three from each party sit on the
porkulus panel to monitor the spending. Nope, his toadies in the majority killed it because he already had his cronies in line for the
job$$$$. We have a bill now that will tax hospital visits..yep, go in for an operation or have a baby and you will be taxed. As for the train, he should have consulted Dingy Harry and that earmark of Harry's could have been enhanced, but then Doofus would lose his vacation.

Anne writes:
GunnyG© & Deputy: Is it true...????

I've been hearing that before one can actually qualify as a liberal that one has to take and IQ test and FAIL

Actually, the major requirements to be a lib are a double prefrontal lobotomy, and a double frontal lobotomy

Let;'s Do The Right Thing
I loved this article. Let's do us all a favor and dismiss the federal government. Constitutionally, we have the right to do this now.

Lithium Angle: WHAT? Majority RULES?

Uh, NO BODY "RULES," you idiot!

How old are you? Have you ever been to school... or even a day care center?

Have you ever actually read the Constitution?

Or, better yet, do you even know WHAT the Constitution is?

Are you related to doofass? (I'm trying to figure out if this gross intellectual and emotional disability is genetic!)

Do you even know what kind of government we have? (That is, until your first black president destroys is!!!)


No, "Majority RULES" IS NOT HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.

DEAL WITH IT. :-)


Anne
They also must have been dropped on their heads as children and have a taste for puked up pablum as an adult.

GunnyG federal employee
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 2:55 PM EST
ExRCSD Deputy..."

Name call away you are proven a liar so all you really have is your little posse of a failed bouncer, an old nasty bitter woman and assorted other hangers on but if this is the only humor you can find in your failed life so be it

LIBSTAIN FIRED!
How the Liberal's Ministry of Truth works.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,499525,00.html

But this time, a libweenie was BUSTED and FIRED!

He'll probably get hired by the NY Obama Times or Ruffy Huffy Puffy.

Edna
what was the ruling

Edna Eagle: Ugly? HA HA! This is just

the beginning. HA HA HA HA HA

We Conservatives give the bozo a month... and what did the bozo do? EXACTLY what we all said he would do.

The only amazing thing is that he accomplished what we predicted so quickly.

NOW, we're making our voices heard... "New American Tea Parties" in

Atlanta, Georgia
Chicago, Illinois
Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
Fayetteville, North Carolina
Houston, Texas
Kansas City, Kansas
Philadelphia, PA
Washington, D.C.

http://www.newamericanteaparty.com

The animals are getting nervous! HA HA HA HA

And NOW... tah-dah, as GunnyG pointed out....

GALLUP POLL TODAY
has Dopey's approval rate at 59%.


Huh! You think it's getting ugly now, WAIT!!!
You "ain't seen nothin' yet!" :-)



DOPEY GETS PUNKED
His fleet of new helos (cost to US is 11 BILLION) nixed over taxpayer outrage.

New cars, new helos, new AF 1, what is this idiot, a little boy playing with new toys?

Doofass;
The only humor I find around here are your incredibly stupid posts about history.

Northern Trust
holder of Dopey's mortgage of their Chicago house, (the Rezko deal), partied with bailout money in LA.

Dopey McChange unavailable for comment.


GunnyG federal employee
"Date: Feb 24, 2009 - 3:02 PM EST
....This Just In."

What was the number? LMAO

"Nov 2010, liberals are swept out of power in a massive landslide. Early reports has them hunted down like vermin. Obama is a lame duck as America experiences a misery index OVER the Carter years."

I will take that bet but do look at the years between 1932 and 1936

LIBERAL KONGRESS
inserts 9,000 earmarks in omnibus bill this week.

Gotta love liberals in charge.

Anne
I'm telling you, liberals will be UNELECTABLE after 4 years of this empty suit clown and a liberal Kongress that just inserted NINE THOUSAND earmarks in the omnibus bill this week.

Conservatives are gonna hang this around their necks for decades to come.

Hydrogen Production Engineer
You are correct. I've gotten a look at NH's already.

Deputy: doofass isn't bright enough

to GET IT!

Yesterday, doofass actually posted...
"Close I am laughing at you folks as I have explained many times "

doofass doesn't have the emotional maturity of a 12 yrs. old!

A grown man (and I use the term "man" very loosely!) who spends as many hours a day as doofass spends on TH, laughing at people, shows exactly how immature and mentally UNhealthy he really is.

The kind of responses and behavior is typical childish behavior that most people grow out of in middle school.

At least those who show promise of becoming mentally and emotionally healthy, mature, contributing members of society grow out of it.

However, those who do not, obviously such as doofass and the other liberals, remain childish, and are often narcissistic,

What a waste of humanity... and I would also venture, those who are incapable of taking care of themselves and therefore happy to see the government take care of them.



think for once
What a poorly written article. Even the very first paragraph is filled with misinformation.
"socialism impoverishes every nation"???? where ? who? I thought the right considers all of Europe socialist. France, Germany(3rd), Spain, England even the "evil communist" China boasts the 2nd largest economy in the world. You know.. you right wingers are welcome to move to a country with out public programs, I hear Bangaladesh is good. No pesky infrastructure projects to get in your way.

GunnyG©: "liberals will be UNELECTABLE

after 4 years"

How about TWO (2) years?

The only problem is, what kind of damage will be done by then?

This rogue president is serious about "nationalizing" our banks, and heaven help us if he gets doofass' favorite, Socialized Health Care, in place...

We could be in serious trouble before this rogue, inept, Marxist president is through.



Are we watching the unfolding story about Bone-head Biden's son and brother? HA HA HA

Is there ANYONE in the dem party who isn't a criminal or related to a criminal? Whoa! This just gets better and better! :-)


Anne-GunnyG-ExRCSD-Others
Double Libtard Moronic Jeopardy, Teachers Unions in California teaching Mexican Kids to speak SPANISH:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,499445,00.html

Interesting
Did you feel the same way when your party was in power and took it upon themselves to limit my rights on every front? Whether as a woman or just as a citizen using my telephone, my rights were trampled for the last eight years. Sure, the party line was stopping terror but I don't believe anything from the same group that lied about the weapons. Spare us! Work on not lying to citizens and helping "white collar" criminals get away with their crime and just maybe the Grand Old Party will have a chance. Until then...try to act like adults!

GunnyG© Bozo was unavailable for comment

Huh? Kind of like Bozo wasn't available to discuss his birth certificate or his college transcripts?

You mean like that?

Wait... wait, didn't Bozo promise a transparent govt? Hmmmm?

Well, so far THAT hasn't happened!

How could anyone in his or her right mind actually believe we'd have an open, honest, transparent govt. when this sleazebag rogue pres. couldn't even come clean with whatever it is he's hiding with his transcripts and birth cert.


Georgetwin:
Dallas ISD actually has Spanish for Spanish Speakers classes, and gives the students credit for the required foreign language for graduation

Wait a minute
I am mathematically challenged and I have the checkbook to prove it but where do they get
59% approval when if you look at the chart by party affiliation..Repubs 56%, Indy's 23%
added together it's 79%..so where I ask again,
does the 59% approval come from..subtract
79% from 100% and its (wait a minute, gotta get my pencil)..it is 21%. Am I missing something, I know math isn't my strongest suit..but?????

First Blood in 2nd Amendment Battles
HR 45 now in Durham, NC there's a proposal to ban sales