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Tuesday, December 02, 2008
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama a Centrist? Like I'm a Liberal
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I am far less convinced than many that Barack Obama will be a centrist in office. Despite his announced future Cabinet appointees, I find it amazing that people are so willing to believe he'll change his stripes that fast.

Just what about Obama's very liberal voting record to date causes one to believe he'll be any different as president? I could see an aspiring presidential candidate establishing a centrist legislative record in the state and federal senates to make himself more electable as president, but not the other way around.

There's another red flag that should give pause to those hoping against hope -- pun intended -- that Obama will indeed govern as a centrist. The very liberal mainstream media are giving Obama nothing but plaudits for his presumed centrist appointments. If they truly believed he had changed his governing philosophy, they would be anything but sanguine.

Even the far-left blogosphere has not thrown in the towel yet. They're not ecstatic, but I think deep down, they know they have a fellow traveler about to take the oath of office. As one writer for the liberal Huffington Post put it, "He will be the president we want him to be."

Also, just because this or that appointee was in the Clinton administration does not mean Obama is a centrist. The media have whitewashed any liberalism associated with the Clintons and portrayed them as committed moderates.

How easily we forget that Bill Clinton had to be dragged kicking and screaming to sign welfare reform after rejecting it twice. How readily we ignore his liberal judicial appointments, not only the high-profile Supreme Court justices but also lower-level judges across the board who greatly impact American jurisprudence.

How quickly we give Clinton a pass for deliberately gutting the military he loathed while ignoring a terrorist threat he barely recognized -- a weakened military President Bush had to rebuild while taking the heat for the necessary expenditures. How mindlessly we credit Clinton for balancing the budget, when if he'd had his way and had not been checked by the Gingrich Congress, he wouldn't have come close to achieving that to which he never even aspired.

How casually we overlook that Bill and Hillary tried to impose socialized medicine on this nation -- an act of such procedural and substantive overreaching that it contributed to major congressional losses for Democrats. How foolishly we excuse Clinton for refining the art of class warfare in the modern era by falsely depicting President Reagan's across-the board-tax cuts as skewed to the wealthy and demonizing the greatest period of peacetime growth under Reagan as the "decade of greed."

But even if the Obama appointees seem more centrist than expected, we must recognize that Obama will be the boss, not the individuals in his Cabinet. People are raving about Obama choosing Robert Gates to continue as defense secretary, but they forget that when Bush chose him, many of us were surprised because Gates was in the "Iraq Surrender Group," which had sharply criticized Bush's policies in Iraq. But Bush did not soften his policies just because Gates came on board. He followed his own counsel, just as we should expect will be the case with Obama.

You should note that President Bush received no accolades from the press for choosing centrists such as Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. In Bush's case, it was just assumed they would do his bidding and not the other way around.

Even if I'm completely wrong about Obama's appointments, I believe it is exceedingly premature to conclude that Obama will govern as a centrist.

I just wonder what some of the people now rushing to applaud Obama as a centrist will say if and when he tries to: implement nationalized health care; drastically disarm our nuclear capacity -- unilaterally; sign into law card-check legislation, which would permit unions to undo secret balloting; appoint very left-wing activist judges; close Gitmo and relax our tough interrogation techniques; further open our borders to illegals; inaugurate a gargantuan "new" New Deal upward of $1 trillion in forced government spending, euphemized as a stimulus package; impose Draconian measures against our economy and liberties under the pretense of ameliorating man-made global warming; or radically alter the tax code to punish the "wealthy."

The liberals inside and outside the mainstream media will say he had to do it to get us out of the economic doldrums, which will be a lie. What will you conservatives say?

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Rowley
I'm pretty sure that you have good company.

One MUST remember
that Nobama is a student of Saul Alinsky and even tho he "appears" to appointing moderates..his dirty deeds will be done by the Liberal Judges that will write laws from the bench ..not follow the rule of law..THEY will be the ones that will destroy the fabric of morality in America!..Those criminals he will appoint will be there for life and can do some irreparable damage that will last decades!

An Apology
I owe apologies to readers of this thread. I went off the deep end last night and responded to the 'Town Crier' Ranger IQ29. I try to ignore him and do most times,but sometimes.....

I will try to stay sane and ignore his arrogant put-downs in the future.

He'll say and do whatever
works for the first 2 years to get a good run at 2012 re-election. Our voices didn't matter on drilling(much),immigration,taxes,or the first bailout. We must realize we have no vote,no voice that will be heard in Washington for at least 3-4 years. We must take action,our words fall on deaf ears. Spreading our message of liberty and freedom to fight socialism is our way out from under the Obama and liberal left RULE!

When they run & GOVERN conservative
they WIN. When they run as Democrat-Lite they lose because the conservative base stays home. Reagan didn't run like McCain of 2000 and won two tsunami elections.

I like the Chambliss win and pray for a Coleman win because I WANT a firewall, NOT a rubber stamp congress for the befuddled little man-child, "messiah" Squirrel-in-Chief!!!

How's the drip working?

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

koolmuse
THE REASON why the government runs out of money is because of MASSIVE (and very documented) waste, fraud, and mismanagement of funds. Period. Billions and billions EACH YEAR are lost in fraud alone.

"That government is best which governs least."
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/we-demand-true-conserva tive-leadership.html

You'd think that at least Republicans could understand this.

The death of socialism
Delicious!

"(CNSNews.com) – New York Gov. David Paterson and New Jersey Gov. John Corzine told Congress Wednesday that their states, and others, will need a multi-billion dollar bailout if they are going to be able to provide basic state functions, such as Medicaid payments and infrastructure investment."

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/Content/Article.aspx?rsrcid=3 8569

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats are promoting aid to states as part of a broad stimulus package that could inject more than $300 billion into the ailing economy.

The idea is getting a strong bipartisan push from governors across the country, with California Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and New York Democratic Gov. David Paterson among the chief proponents. Both are blaming Washington for their states' mounting troubles."

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/11/14/20081114e conomy-states1114-ON.html

It ain't the states (ie. taxpayers) that are getting bailed out, it's the state GOVERNMENTS. And ironically, the libs at state level are blaming the libs at the federal level. Can you say schadenfreude?

We are at the precipiece of forcing massive cuts at every level of government. Starve the Leviathan. Work for cash. Barter. Cancel your cable and newspaper. Pay off your car. Pull your kids from public school. Grow a garden. Cash in your 401K and your IRA.

Pay as few taxes as possible. Starve the Leviathan. Embrace bad economic news like a warm blanket on a blustery winter morn.

Starve the Leviathan.

PS: The states that don't need bailouts: Texas, Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Indiana and West Virginia. States run by conservatives, regardless of party.






Obama Appoints Bill and Hillary!
The left are so excited because Obama appointed Bill and Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. I had to chuckle when the media showed Hillary and Obama walking away arm in arm towards the left of the camera.

Now, everyone knows that there will be little "change" and that the "change" that will be coming will be an extension of NAFTA; job outsourcing, open borders, the push for more abortions and funding for Planned Parenthood who kill babies for-profit and encourage kids on video to have sex all sorts of ways with some old man on camera as their mentor which disgusts me; gay rights; nationalized health care proposals; open borders; pushing to pass out drivers licenses to illegals and so forth. It appears that most of the issues are on the table - the left side of the table that is and in my opinion are in violation of our supreme laws of the land and violate the moral values of a country by promoting promiscuity amongst kids without teaching them the consequences and ends the lives of innocent babies by sentencing them to death without a fair trial.

Left-Wing Liar
No one as stupid as you could have done all you claim. Liar.

Blowfish
So he has been waterboarded,too. He has a resume a mile long. All lies.

Wobbie
You will be dead tomorrow as far as the monitors are concerned. Liar.




The "Change" Is All That's Left
Wait till Wobby discovers that the "change" was about what is left in HIS pocket. He envisions himself on the receiving end of "spreading the wealth around" and is going to be so disappointed to learn that HIS wealth is about to be spread around. So disappointed!

ranger29
i would love to see you waterboarded you phony worthless lowlife.

Ranger29
Here today....gone tomorrow. Better get a few more posts in Wobbie the wonder wabbit....Time is running out on you. Save some of your sarcasm for tomorrow.

How many times did I tell you that you were a lying liberal pretending to honor and love McCain? We all knew you for what you were...a liar.

All the other fairy tales you tell are lies,too. No branch of service would accept a degenerate such as yourself.

No honorable ex-serviceman would be so disrespectful to his peers nor his ex-Commander in Chief You are just one nasty lowlife.

You and your alter-ego,Harold are spiteful,sad excuses for human beings.




Rowly
wobbie is a Gutless Loudmouth. Ignore him.

Georgetwin
We will never be rid of the agitators. They have no other interest in life. IQ29 knows he is hated even by the monitors here,yet he insists on critiquing others posts.

None of us wanted McCain,but we wanted Obama even less. They wanted him. They own him. He is theirs and he will make them pay and pay. IQ29 was the one who pretended he liked McCain. Liar.

IQ29
Not what I said Stock Boy. I said as soon as the undesirables like you and McAmnesty Midget are weeded out. McAmnesty Midget pissed a victory away by reaching across the aisle with 1 hand and grabbing his ankles with the other, all the while screaming “BAILOUT BOHICA!” 8 ½ hours until you are history AGAIN, LOSER!

affirmative action president
Barry Hussein Obama is nothing more than an affirmative action recipient of the presidency. Get ready for 8 years of the Kenyan wonder boy as he will surely get a free pass on his first term. Good God Americans, what were you thinking?

Rowly-MDad-Anne-FWife-Others
The GOP will be FINE once we get rid of Wal-Mart Pilots, McAmnesty Midgets and other undesirables.

Koolmuse
Tattoo this on your brain if you have one:

" SOMETIMES WHEN YOU WIN...YOU LOSE"

Gerard
You are right that Senator McCain got a little piece of the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac pie ($21,550) but nowhere near what president-elect Obama pulled in during his short stint ($126,349).

Also McCain sounded the warning in 2005 to stop the wholesale granting of unsupported loans. At no time in the last eight years has regulation been responsible for any of the problems happening in the market right now. Therefore your closure of DEREGULATE is a red herring.

Koolmuse, I am not
scared of trick or treaters. I do own guns and I do know how to use them properly. Yes, I could defend myself or my family if the need arises.

Are you saying that law enforcement should not have a firearm either? Do you believe that there is a way to take guns out of the hands of people who have no regard for the lives or property of others?

Most gun crimes are drug related and many are committed by people who are here illegally.

I am not in the habit of breaking the law. Self defense of life and property is not a crime and is a right that all Americans are Constitutionally guaranteed.

The new report out today by a bi-partisan group appointed by the 9/11 commission says that it is likely terrorists will strike us again within the next 5 years. I think it makes good sense for citizens to be as prepared as possible.

Poor Willie Clinton
sucker punched by Reagan/Cheney/HWBush pal Osama. When he tried to hit back they cried "wag the dog". After 9/11 W Bush feigned a fight and let him escape, and Osama promised to wait 8 more years to seal the deal

Buyer's Remorse
Say what you will,liberals. You had better say it now because pretty soon even idiots like you will see you have bought a 'pig in a poke' who is not presidential material.

He has added all the old retreads who had to almost bring down a government to get him elected. Let's see what they can force him to do as payback. He will bow to the Clintons !!!

Where is the CHANGE your guy promised? 'The Back To The Future Guru'. What a man !!!

A heartfelt and sincere reply to Wobbie
Ranger29 - Location: TX - Reply # 347
Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 10:35 PM EST

"Clinton did a good job confronting AQ."

Robert


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (gasping for air) HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (starting to cry from laughing AT Woobbie) HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA vHA HA HA HA HA HA

Dictators usually speak of a
"national will". Generally as a projection of their own. Dems always turn into libs and libs make GREAT dictators. Somebody turn up his drip and start a second IV please!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Most of the time
The mere threat of armed resistance is enough. In the states with more liberal access to guns the perps are CERTAIN that they will face an armed homeowner than in libtard Meccas like San Fran or SickCago.

In England the news that the public has been 100% disarmed has resulted in a huge upswing in "hot" burglaries. In other words the thugs know the home is occupied and DON'T CARE because THEY are armed and the victims are not.

Hear that soothing drip yet?


-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria

IQ29
1980,1984,1988,2000,2004 + The GOP has DOMINATED the White House since 1860. You, The Lithium Libtard and Drunkahue should share a Slurpee, a WalMart Helo Ride and a Soft Walled Room.

McCain is barely a Republican
The last Presidential election was basically between two Democrats, A Democrat wannabe (who keep calling himself a maverick), and a single female Republican who happen to be the only one with Executive experience.

Senator McCain lost because he ran his campaign extremely poorly. He was very likely not even nominated by Republicans but cross-over voters (recall he casually insulted his base on many issues). How else do you explain such a weak candidate in such a critical year?

Governor Palin was the only hope and Team McCain unbelievably mismanaged her appearances. Tossing her to the wolves right off (and letting them control the editing), then hiding her, and then back out again was just confusing. Plus leaking information out on the wardrobe cost, etc. was just plain stupid. Saturday Night Live was a golden opportunity to build upon and they let it drop. McCain denying O’Reilly’s interview while Obama did his infomercial was another stupid move. The only one McCain has to blame is himself – it was his to win and he tossed it away.

TrueHawk... You're right!

The King is 'too busy' awaiting his throne...

Can you just see the idiot dressed up as the Imperial Margarine King ?

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_TdsdbTDtCAY/RhA_AMJBb2I/AAAAAAAABNo/3 ghEF8DWI4I/100_3898.jpg

Rowly
if u think McCain had no part to play in this financial crisis, then you're a midnight toker. DEREGULATE!

Koolmuse
I usually don't lower myself to read ,much less answer one of your inane posts,but since you have denigrated my senator ,not to mention my state....I will rebut you and your drivel.

The reason Chambliss won is unlike they are many states, every minority in Georgia has not been conned by Elmer Gantry,AKA Barack Hussein Obama. This runoff would not have been necessary if not for a third party candidate.

The Enlightened South did not cause the Obama victory,even though it is heavily populated by minorities. They are not socialists/Marxists as they are elsewhere.

If other states had voted as Georgia did,we would have McCain selecting his cabinet. I doubt if it would have been filled with retreads and Clinton's butt-boys. But then,McCain had no part in the financial meltdown as the current 'almost president-elect' did. So he would not need to keep the perpetrators close so as to keep them quiet.



WratWrangler
Don't forget The Greens, else they would be SCREECHING about The Oil SLick you just caused ;)!

Obama a No Show
With the low turn-out for the senator race in Georgia, we GOP supporters were delighted that Obama stuck to his "one man show" theme and did not come campaign for the Democrat. We did not expect he'd work hard for his own.

Anne:
I take him seriously as an example of someone who has a very tenuous connection with reality.

The best interest of the U.S. & humanity
would be if all the Dems in both houses of Congress were on two airliners that flew into the Bermuda Triangle and NEVER CAME BACK!!!! They can take 80% of Hollywood and the MSM with them.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

FWife-Anne-Wrat-Others
GOD ALMIGHTY! The Lithium Libtard ALMOST makes Sophie et al sound reasonable! Don't sweat The Gutless Wonder, just FLAG THE HELL out of him. Sooner or Later, he WILL say something that gets his worthless behind banned.

IQ29 actually posted..."back home!"


What a joke! He continues to log on knowing that ALL HIS POSTS ARE PULLED EVERY MORNING, Mon. - Fri. at 8AM....


WONDER WHY??? IQ29's posts are the ONLY ONES regularly pulled.... NO ONE ELSES! Just IQ29's.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.... "back home"... IQ29 is crazier than a bed bug, and too too funny. The twit still thinks someone believes him and takes him seriously...

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA



ZOGBY POLL - New Results
2008 morons and ignoramuses elect genius to Presidency. 2000 geniuses elect moron and ignoramus to Presidency. Now all we have to do is hope for the opposite results! God Bless America!

uh, Koolmuse...
who do you think used those guns to kill? I'll give you a hint. It wasn't the gun owning, law abiding citizen. I wonder if there are any numbers relating to how many killings were prevented because a regular person had a gun at the right time, in the right place.

Gun bans and gun law does not keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

Aw shucks!
I was hoping for a filibuster-proof Dhimmicrat majority...and to get rid of lib Chambliss.

If only Palin hadn't gone down to campaign for that clown...

Oh well, maybe Stuart Smalley will steal the MN election.

Hey Wrat and GMM1: Did you get kookmuse'

insane post... 30,000 Americans ....

geeze, it's difficult to tell if he's just a typical intellectually limited liberal, or clearly totally mentally deranged.... OR BOTH!

My guess is "OR BOTH!"

Actually, the cause of MOST DEATHS (MURDERS) in America are ILLEGAL ALIENS, be it guns or auto... it's ILLEGAL ALIENS.


And just to put himself over the edge, he says.."think if 30,000 Americans were killed in Iraq every year."

Hmmmm... I think the last statistic was... 5,000 (+/-) TOTAL since we first went into Iraq... a far cry from 30,000 each year.

Poor guy really needs to be restrained and HEAVILY DRUGGED.

Sure are a lot of libs on TH
Why do libs care that conservatives are dubious about claims that their messiah is a centrist?

Why would libs want a centrist government anyway? They won. And to hear them talk, they have a mandate and there's nothing conservatives can do to stop them.

So let's go for it. Pass the Fairness Doctrine, cap-n-trade the coal industry out of business, bail out state governments, tax guns and ammo, allow abortions until fetuses reach 18 yo, mandate health insurance on businesses and parents, nationalize the oil industry, force gay marriage, punish success and reward failure and laziness, close Gitmo and bring the "enemy combatants" to Kansas to stand trial, open the borders and allow the millions in,...

It's time to embrace socialism. Sure, it's failed everywhere it's been tried, but that's only because nobody as smart as BO has has been in charge of socialism yet.

The South's Gonna Do It Again !!!
Looks like the south will rise again...and did! The Nancy and Harry revue will have to go back to the editing room. Their dream of a bulldozer congress won't happen yet.Yea,Ga. and Chambliss!!! Now,if Coleman can just beat the Porn King....again.

The Lone Ranger and his Kemo Sabe (AKA Harold,the LMAO king)have been keeping the threads hot tonight. Why do either of them think anyone here gives a rat's rear end what they think of anything?

They are two arrogant S.O.B's,and that's being nice to them.They are much worse.


Want to trade
2.5 MILLION felonies prevented by the presence of a gun annually for THAT? Don't try to get around it. Gary Kleck and John Lott have PASSED peer review and NEVER been successfully refuted. Except in a few desperate warped minds that is.
Drip drip drip...LOL!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Anne:
RS and the Doofass prove the definition of insanity which says doing the same thing over and over again, and getting the same result. RJS comes here posts his drivel, gets banned, and does that over and over again. The Doofass comes here posts his DU, DailyKOS, DNC, etc talking points, gets treated with utter contempt, and does that over and over again. If those are not prime examples of insanity, I don't know what is.

What if
We throw in trouncing that psycho thief Franken?

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Hey Wrat: :-) kookmuse isn't the only

one who is missing from the Thorazine drip and restraint.

IQ29 is another.... and we seem to have had the whole list right here on Th, and Limbaugh's thread today... Ugh!

Somewhere in Belvue....
A thorazine drip and 5-point restraint system is missing its KoolMuse!!!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

IQ29: Breakdown is irrelevant!

Kind of like you!

Chambliss will be in DC, and Martin won't

The dumbos will NOT have a filibuster proof Congress, and that's all that counts!


IQ29, who ONLY SIGNS ON when the mod is

off duty... HA HA HA HA HA

And, don't even try that sad, pathetic story about being in the ME... HA HA.. heaven knows you were on TH all through the Thanksgiving weekend.... banking on that fact that Chris was off.... HA HA HA

Oh, and for the record, we're not talking about water pistols.... LMAO! :-)


We're talking about real guns! :-)

doofASS THE BABY KILLER: Then what was

your point... and I don't mean the one on top of your head???

"Hal Donahue
Location: PA
Reply # 306
Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 8:48 PM EST Steven
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 7:41 PM EST Subject: What I think of gun control...The rest of us who have some sort of arms will say other wise... "

"LMAO Are you one of those silly NRA fools dreaming of being "a hero" with your BIG gun??? LOL Heck It is amazing that time after time at NRA events people ask who is now in or was in the military LMAO always a tiny handful LOL"


Just another meaningless and irrelevant post???

Exactly what I thought! More of the same!!!

Departing the fix
ciao

doofASS THE BABY KILLER: Then what was
Hal Donahue
Location: PA
Reply # 306
Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 8:48 PM EST Steven
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 7:41 PM EST Subject: What I think of gun control...The rest of us who have some sort of arms will say other wise... "

LMAO Are you one of those silly NRA fools dreaming of being "a hero" with your BIG gun??? LOL Heck It is amazing that time after time at NRA events people ask who is now in or was in the military LMAO always a tiny handful LOL

Ranger29
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 9:19 PM EST Subject: Hal...I have really lost touch with the
NRA since I left it for the same reasons Poppy Bush did...

...I guess over the last 18 or so years they have gone old and right wing? "

For some reason long ago I lost interest in hunting. Guns are tools nothing more but some tools are true works of art. They have so sold out to the religious extremists that they are icons on their own LOL. I am glad to see alternative organizations building up strongly to replace them

Anne
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 9:17 PM EST What could it possibly be that these

lunatic, intellectually challenged liberals have against private citizens owning guns???"

I have none at all I thought I told Robert as much.

The news would have been if Chambliss had lost LOL. Why in the very heartland of fundamentalist conservatism does your candidate have a run off LOL

And, while we're asking, what IS IT with

these liberals who need to think that they can and have the right to tell anyone that they should or should not own a gun???


KOOLMUSE?????MY BUTT
Not only is your guy a snake, he's a black snake. Look up that species of reptile. Read just how opportunistic the black snake can be.

What could it possibly be that these

lunatic, intellectually challenged liberals have against private citizens owning guns???

It's clearly a Constitutionally protected right, so what's the big fat deal??? Why would anyone even care?

You don't want to own a gun, then don't! No one is forcing you to own a gun...

But what your big fat deal is with those who choose to own a gun????


Oh, and btw, it appears that Chambliss has won!
:-)


Ranger29
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 8:51 PM EST Subject: Steven dont be silly
Subject: Steven
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 7:41 PM EST Subject: What I think of gun control...The rest of us who have some sort of arms will say other wise..

gun ownership does not equate to being able to use it...most likely you are one of the "quick draws" who it is easy to take the weapon away from"

Shhhh don't tell them; as you know they are a very convenient way to store weapons until we may need them. All the milktoasts running have some use LOL

Robert

RickV404 writes: "Obama is going to

continue the policies of Bush."

At least when it comes to spending... we've been saying that for almost two years!

Actually, with Bozo Obama's plans, as he's shared so far, he's going to make Pres. Bush like a penny pincher, and Obama will be more like Pres. Bush on financial STEROIDS!

And that's exactly the irony!


Steven
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 7:41 PM EST Subject: What I think of gun control...The rest of us who have some sort of arms will say other wise... "

LMAO Are you one of those silly NRA fools dreaming of being "a hero" with your BIG gun??? LOL Heck It is amazing that time after time at NRA events people ask who is now in or was in the military LMAO always a tiny handful LOL

Obama is going to continue
the policies of Bush. No change there at all. He'll print and spend as much money as possible, and, quite likely, start another war in the Middle East. These presidents, Democrat and Republican alike, only care about making history, and we get stuck with the big, fat bill for it all.

The center of what?
News people are so far past stupid they don't even remember it. Like they said about string theory - so far from helpful it's not even wrong. did they think he was going to appoint to the financial posts to prove his left leanings??? Karl Marx?? Carlos Santana? His leftness will become apparent the same way most guys do. By f*cking people. That would be us.

What I think of gun control...
I think 'we' the people should elect to show people like idiotmuse what happens when our second amendment is violated. Or maybe we the workers don't mind living under big brother police state. The rest of us who have some sort of arms will say other wise...

Primus54
Amen to that!

RE Hal
Why do you ask? Are you looking for someone to join you in your drug binge? Sorry, that's not my kind of fun. Maybe, when you put down your bong, you can post a more intelligent reply to my opinions.

Matt21632
People like Hal thought Carter would bring long-term liberalism.

Guess they forgot to tell Reagan...

Matt21632
Is this your third drink or your first toke? LOL But I do applaud you on finding a silver lining

doofASS The BABY KILLER writes: "Rowly,

Do you have anything at all that pertains to what is going on? Or just silly insults... "

Okay, that is THE FUNNIEST post we've seen in a LONG, LONG, LONG time...


doofASS The Baby Killer actually asking another poster if he or she has "anything at all that pertains to what is going on? Or just silly insults... "

Can y'all believe that??? doofASS The Baby Killer, KING of non-pertinent and silly posts...

What IS this world coming to???


Obama is far-left!
David, your article is dead-on accurate. Obama is not a centrist. He was the biggest lib in the senate, and he will be the same in the Whitehouse. He, Pelosi, and Reid will over reach, just like Clinton and Carter. This over reach will, temporarily, be hard to handle. However, it will lead to another huge, long term conservative take over, which will make me very happy.

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue asks:
"Oooops didn't like that huh? LOL"
-----

Just think you should know your place.

Imagine me policing at HuffPo.

(What am I saying??? I would be banned!)

Primus54
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 6:14 PM EST "Hall Monitor Hal"

While these threads occasionally need policing, as a conservative site, how about leaving it up to conservatives to monitor the halls, okay Hal?

You too post at Townhall's pleasure. "

Oooops didn't like that huh? LOL

"Hall Monitor Hal"

While these threads occasionally need policing, as a conservative site, how about leaving it up to conservatives to monitor the halls, okay Hal?

You too post at Townhall's pleasure.

kookmuse writes:
"NeKKKon Pray Islamic Jihad Victorious..."
-----

Blah, blah, blah...


BTW, If I knew what village you lived in, I'd call the police and let them know where they can find their idiot.

Rowly: I think you're onto something

there.

It is amazing, isn't it??? I do hope there is a "freak school" because if these idiots are like that "naturally" there's been a serious problem with some genetic code someplace.

How much you want to bet, doofASS, Ranger-IQ29, kookmuse, kyle, and mario, to name a few, are serious contenders for the "Darwin Award" this year?

Ha Ha Ha Ha...


Kyle gives new meaning to Darwin's
theory of random mutation. I wonder if he realizes just how unique he is. A one-celled amoeba that can almost type a coherent sentence. Notice I said "almost."

And as for Koolmush. He is proof that if you give a chimpanzee a keyboard, eventually a correctly spelled 3 letter word will appear.


Rowly
Do you have anything at all that pertains to what is going on? Or just silly insults...

Anne
Where are these freaks coming from. Is there a freak school we don't know about? I bet Harold and Ranger went there!

kyle: Puh! Go away you limp wristed

little ignorant freak....

We don't have time or desire to even be bothered with you......


I suspect you're pretty much on everyone's "IGNORE" list at this point... except perhaps kookmuse... he's about your speed....

Run along now... Ooops, I mean swish along... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


Your are correct!
Mr. Limbaugh you are absolutely correct in your assessment of the "wonder team" and B. H. Obama.

While so many of the commentors are pre-occupied with personal attacks against each other, let me just say that I am grateful for you and other columnists who are not taken in by the MSM Obama shills and the other mindless PR hacks of the left.

How can we hold them accountable for the havoc they will wreck?

Thanks, again!

Anne
"you actually DIDN'T MAKE any credible or valid points...". Well in that case you should explain why it isn't credible or valid.

Governing From The Center?
The 'Accidental Almost President-Elect' will never govern from the center. Centrist? I don't think so. Bill was dragged to the center to get what he wanted. But that was then and this is now.

The Clinton / Obama Administration has selected liberals for every office. Why should he try to court the right? He has picked the 'Meltdown Makers'. Maybe they can fix the mess they and the Democrat congress made.

Maybe they intend to keep it all in the family. They only need Paulson and Rubin to round it out. They should torture Paulson and make him tell where the booty went. Waterboarding sounds good.

Kyle: Okay, you arrogant, twisted little

punk! Just exactly who the hell do you think you are???

You have no business even being on TH (basically because you're just too stupid and... did I mention immature?


And how dare you tell Motley Crue to "shut it!?

NOT ONLY do you give your little self away with your meaningless and ignorant posts, you also give yourself away with your name calling...


What the hell are you.... 12 yrs old trying to make yourself out to be an adult?


Well, you're not an adult... and more than likely Motley was right... you're a limp wristed little freak, and not to mention a waste of skin and bandwidth!

So, go and play with other little limp wristed, freaky, twisted little friends.


Motley Crue

Perhaps "kookmuse" should change his screen name to:

"F. Lee Musely"

GunnyG©/ Primus54
"Date: Dec 2, 2008 - 1:33 PM EST Primus54
It's all in the liberal's class/race/wealth warfare plan. ...Hal's a moron and a paid SOROS troll. Says a lot for his mental capacity."

Moran I may be paid I am not like I said I do this as a public service.

How goes your federal government job Gunnyg

Okay, Georgetwin..

Your 4:41 PM deserved a spew alert!

LMAO - © Copyright 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)

Where have you been?
You speak as if you just stepped out of the closet into the world of politics. When the Democrats won the House and the Senate the liberal nuts like Move On thought the same thing about Pelosi and Reid. As the First Woman Speaker of the House she is going to be the woman we want her to be. Well, guess what? We are still in Iraq and are still funding the troops. Would you call Pelosi and Reid centrist because we are still in Iraq and still funding the troops. Next time you look into that crystal ball of yours, clean it off because it's smudged with personal hatred for Obama. By the way, those thing you clearly remembered about the Clinton's, didn't bother you at the time you were supporting her to get the nomination over Obama did they. Wherever Hillary goes, Bill follows. It's best to remember that.

Kyle, kyle, kyle..OBVIOUSLY your DO CARE

what I think and what others on TH think, otherwise you wouldn't bother to log onto TH in the first place, and you wouldn't address a whining post to me!

Note, I didn't address my post to you... I answered Lolo1's post to me.

Following this so far????


And, as far as your other whining.... " instead of insulting me(without making a point).... " yaddah, yaddah, yaddah, I believe we've been through this before.


It's all but impossible to actually state why, point by point, what you said was wrong, because you actually DIDN'T MAKE any credible or valid points... which is why I ignored you and your post.

Motley Crue and Anne
First of all, Motley, shut it. Anne has to explain point by point otherwise this wouldn't be a debate of ideas. Instead neither side would be convinced of anything except that the other side is filled with as many @sswipes as they thought.

I'm sorry, kookmuse...

... I should have realized you were incapable of recognizing satire when you read it.

Did you know that Bush had Mayor Nagin and Governor Blanko secreted off to an undisclosed location preventing Nagin from using those school buses and Blanko from requesting federal assistance when it was "strongly encouraged"?

Oh - as to "banning" or "censorship", I realize you already live in the land of communism, but here in the real world we still have "capitalism" and "private business".

As a private concern, Townhall is under NO legal obligation to grant you an audience on these threads. You appear at their pleasure.

There are only a handful of posters who have been permanently exiled (even as they bypass protocols and come here anyway).

Without exception, they have been banned for racial slurs and/or repeated violations of acceptable, "PG-13" rated discourse.

NONE have been banned for their political views - unlike your buddies at Kos & HuffPo.

So - your stereotype may be apt - but you are applying it to the wrong political ideology.


Koolmush writes:
"The people" have the right to bear arms together, it's a collective right... called a militia.. which is why it doesn't say "a person", like the 5th Amendment... as I wisely pointed out before."
-----------------------
Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps you should explain that to the Washington DC powers, so they can appeal the SCOTUS ruling which gave citizens of DC the right to INDIVIDUALLY own guns.

Greetings, Anne. Why bother stating
point-by-point how wrong these lefty limp-wrists are. Most of them can't understand written English anyway. Just go ahead and insult them.

Primus: ABOSLUTELY NO QUESTION NOW!!!!

kookmuse is certifiable!

Ding-bats

Nuts

Ca-ray-see

OUT of his mind

Bonkers

Bewildered




Anne
So just out of curiosity are you a pain in the @ss so you can facilitate your anger or what? Guess what, I really don't give a damn about what you think. Your arguments are usually childish and just another heap of crap that comes out of you ditto heads from the tiny whiny minority(neocons).

So for the love of god instead of just insulting me(without making a point) actually attempt to state why, point by point, what I said is wrong. Instead of just saying that I make typos or what I said is too liberal.

Georgetwin
Yes dear.

Have a great evening folks, except for koolmuse because he/she/it is a communist and I have absolutely no use for communists.

Obama & Hillary Centrists?
Good grief, what's in the contaminated water that anyone with a brain would think that Obama, a radical socialist type, who has appointed Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton as Secretary of State, who dodged the draft and cut our military defense department and funding would turn right towards the middle when he's dead set on turning left? If you want to know what your enemies are thinking then you surround yourself with them so you can either win them over or bury their proposals. Remember, it was Bill Clinton who got angry because I believe it was a General in the military who said that he was a skirt chasing pot smoking dodge drafting type of guy and the people could care less then and they care less now as they sing praises to their new messiah who hasn't even proven he's a U.S. natural born citizen to the U.S. Justices or the people or the government to anyone's knowledge to-date! Wait and see if millions of illegals are handed out amnesty and drivers licenses and nationalized healthcare and the borders remain open all on the backs of legal taxpaying American citizens then tell me if he's a centrist and I'll apologize for my unbelieving heart!

Some sweet talkin' city feller
comes tooling down our country road with a line of sweet talk that just swept our farmer's daughter of a country off her feet. I hadn't known that America was a milkmaid. Surprising. But the deed is done, he's deflowered us. We're just hoping he'll do the honorable thing.

It almost seems that he will. Gates in Defense, Jim Jones as national security adviser. Geitner at the Fed, Larry Summers as economic counselor, Christina Romer for the Council of Economic Advisers.

Conservatives are not dismayed. The left can hardly stand it. This is CHANGE? Maybe the kind panhandlers beg for -- too little, given insincerely.

And then there's Hillary. I'm not disgusted by this. A foul and abusive temper -- I like that in a woman who has to deal with selfish foreigners. Don't you? And more than her love of 1960s Trotsky-chic village-speak, she may actually have an eye out for her place in history. American history loves effectiveness. Something to hope for.

We don't know what Obama's gameplan is. What his game is. That's because we don't know anything about him. He is consistently characterized as "brilliant". Obama is brilliant in one way only -- as a giver of prepared speeches. He may be brilliant in other ways, as yet unmanifest. So the idea that his centrist appointments are just opening moves of a subtle chessgame, which will reveal a devastating ploy and a crushing endgame -- uh, no, I don't see it happening. More likely, he just doesn't want to be Hoover, and doesn't have the elbowroom to try to be FDR.

So we'll have to wait and see. So far, with no actual power but only a bully pulpit, Obama is not the abomination we might have feared. Satan may have to wait a while longer for his antichrist.


http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com/2008/12/outlook.html


J
http://forgottenprophets.blogspot.com

Lolo1: Ah yes, paragraphs! Good point!

BUT, if he's still a "spell check" novice, there's always "proof reading" before hitting the "Submit" button...

And, of course, that's NOT to say that 100% perfect spelling is required 100% of the time... Heck, we all make a typo now and again that we overlook, or that spell check doesn't pick up.....

But, geeze-oh-Pete! Based on Kyle's spelling and grammar, "content" and temper (tantrums) there is NO QUESTION that he's still out of his league.

Axioms
are what they are. All politics are local, and nothing is more local than the pocketbook. Hardly anything really matters in government. The way our money is spent, the way our borders are kept, the way our actual rights are protected -- everything else is just people talking.

O is such a smooth talker. There's a way we hope that's all he can do.

J

Lolo
The one you mentioned to Akagi?

Primus
The USMC just announced their own acronym for him:

Supreme
Commander/
Ruler
Of
These
United
Marines


Kyle

"Lolo1
hey good to see you again, long time no see."


I have been here. You stomped away yesterday just as I got on. I do believe Rowly told you if you can't hang with the Big Dogs stay under the porch.

Now I have to go. I have a dinner party to attend unfortunately.

Anne
"Oh and one more thing... Spelling? Ugh! You should be embarrassed to post anything with those spelling errors. I mean REALLY embarrassed!!!"


I think he is a novice at spell check as well, and yet we are supposed to take him seriously and believe he is a bastion of intelligence. At least he is trying, somewhat, at using paragraphs.

Lolo1
hey good to see you again, long time no see.

Acronym change?

I heard Obama has ordered an acronym change when referring to him - from "POTUS" to "ROTUS".

(You'll figure it out, "kook" & "Kyle")

GunnyG
"GunnyG, hey i'm pretty sure that the tax code didn't super expand under the current congress, who by the way are alot less corrupt than the previous one(don't bring up Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, nobody's buying it). And guess what, even though i'm just somewhat of a begginner in economics, i do understand that the tax code doesn't always,100% of the time,interpret the outcome of the economy, the properity of the Reagan years were mainly felt by those at the top of the economic spectrum. And they, the Reagan years, were indeed built on a hostile economy filled with corporate raiding, leveraged buyouts, speculative abundance(through excessive risktaking), and the finacial sector taking over America in what I like to call trip on your @ss capitalism (which presided over several bailouts and skyrocketing debt, which wasn't just caused by military spending). And we do indeed need infrastructure projects if we're going to put people to work and make alot of people alittle richer. And most importantly it would be helpful to have a green tech initiative."


Good luck deciphering this stupidity. What is hilarious is he wasn't even alive during the Reagan years.

Yeah those infrastructure worked so well for FDR....NOT!

Kiddie Kyle wants to sit at the "adults

table" again... Isn't that just the cutest thing?

First of all, the intellectually limited, and completely uninformed dumbo Bozo Obama voters, didn't vote for him (hopefully) to "rule."

President's don't "rule," they're supposed to GOVERN!!!

Second, the best and ONLY real tangible indicator of how anyone will govern is how that person voted in the past. Bozo was pretty slick, however, since he only "voted"... "present" most of the time.

Yet, we know exactly what his thought pattern and process is based on the few VERY FAR LEFT votes that he did make.

And, if you actually believe any of what you posted, you really need to get some education, and grow up A LOT!


Oh and one more thing... Spelling? Ugh! You should be embarrassed to post anything with those spelling errors. I mean REALLY embarrassed!!!

Kyle
"And guess what, even though i'm just somewhat of a begginner in economics,"



Somewhat?! Heck you haven't even reached novice status yet on economics let alone your horrific spelling.


Kyle
"GunnyG, hey i'm pretty sure that the tax code didn't super expand under the current congress, who by the way are alot less corrupt than the previous one(don't bring up Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, nobody's buying it)."

Really? Tell that to Larry Summers along with the rest of Obama's economic team.

Tell your Momma to quit putting so much kool aide in your bottle.

Perhaps you should read IBD, WSJ, and the Economist before spouting your kool aide talking points.

I'll try again, "kook"

If Congress ever tries to pass a law (vs. a constitutional amendment) that attempts to disarm the entire NATION at once - it will never happen.

And, I realize you are stuck on stupid, but the "militias" are Guardsmen & Guardswomen who, you may have noticed, HAVE fought in the WOT as active-duty forces.

They also have high NRA membership.

Georgetwin

"Primus-Lolo
LOSING IT?!?!?!?!

He never FOUND IT!!!!!!"


Koolmuse is a prime example of oxygen deprivation during child birth and the problem compounded by drug use.

Lolo
WOW! You have to dig a BIG Tunnel to get to The Left of Sophie!

Limbaugh,Anne,GunnyG,Koolmuse=right
Well Limbuagh lets think about what you said about Obama's voting record and how that relates to how he'll govern.

Limbaugh you ignore a very important piece of history, that does make it possible that when somebody is elected president they won't rule based on their voting record. One such person would be LBJ, relating to civil rights. Before LBJ was president he voted like any other southerner would, back then, but when he became president he left that prejudice past behind and signed the civil rights act.

And to make a few other points, Anne, Koolmuse is right. Bush did commit an aggressive war and other attrocities, hence he should be further investigated, along with his GOP buddies to.

GunnyG, hey i'm pretty sure that the tax code didn't super expand under the current congress, who by the way are alot less corrupt than the previous one(don't bring up Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac, nobody's buying it). And guess what, even though i'm just somewhat of a begginner in economics, i do understand that the tax code doesn't always,100% of the time,interpret the outcome of the economy, the properity of the Reagan years were mainly felt by those at the top of the economic spectrum. And they, the Reagan years, were indeed built on a hostile economy filled with corporate raiding, leveraged buyouts, speculative abundance(through excessive risktaking), and the finacial sector taking over America in what I like to call trip on your @ss capitalism (which presided over several bailouts and skyrocketing debt, which wasn't just caused by military spending). And we do indeed need infrastructure projects if we're going to put people to work and make alot of people alittle richer. And most importantly it would be helpful to have a green tech initiative.

Barack Obama vs John Wayne

In America,” Barack Obama says, “we have this strong bias toward individual action.

You know, we idolize the John Wayne hero who comes in to correct things with both guns blazing.

But individual actions, individual dreams, are not sufficient.

We must unite in collective action, build collective institutions and organizations.”

- Barack Obama,
Interview with the Chicago Reader, 1995
========================================

"Out here, due process is a bullet..."
-- John Wayne as Col. Mike Kirby in The Green Berets (1968)



koolmuse
"it will be the police I imagine who will enforce guns laws. Most people will obey the law, turn in their guns or abide by whatever law is enacted."

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
That has got to be the stupidest and funniest post I have ever read!

What color is the sun on your planet anyway?

In case you haven't noticed moron the police can't enforce the gun laws now and unless we are going to violate all the search and seizure articles in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the police don't have a prayer.

koolmuse
"Most people will obey the law, turn in their guns or abide by whatever law is enacted."

Except, of course, for those who make a regular practice of breaking the law. As the old saying goes, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." Maybe you find that comforting, but I don't.

Georgetwin
"I'm willing to bet KoolMuse and his mother own a hotel in rural CA. BUT his mother hasn't been seen in a while and he collects knives."

I am willing to bet that he/she/it is on government assistance.

What is hilarious is even sophie called he/she/it a communist last night!

Harry Reid and the Common Man

“My staff tells me not to say this, but I’m going to say it anyway.

In the summer because of the heat and high humidity, you could literally smell the tourists coming into the Capitol.

It may be descriptive but it’s true.”
Harry Reid 12/02/08

Primus-Lolo
LOSING IT?!?!?!?!

He never FOUND IT!!!!!!

Primus
Don’t forget about The Levees being dynamited by The Double Secret Probation Troops on the Black Helicopters. They were flown in under cover of The Storm by Pilot Elvis & Co-Pilot Bigfoot.

koolmuse
"Lolo:

You never say anything intelligent and worthwhile. Ignorant people like you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
From now on that's my cut and paste reply to any post you direct toward me. Until I see something intellectually worthy of reply."


Right back at ya and put down that crack pipe before you burn your lips and the house down.

The real question is not whether I should be allowed to vote but whether you should be allowed out in public.

kookmuse

You are losing it... and it only took a couple of hours.

But, hey! Keep posting!

All too easy, "kook"...

Wipe the spittle off your monitor.

Yeah - all those "fiascoes".

Did you know that Bush and the National Weather Service have a top secret device that can alter the path of a hurricane - get rid of all them blacks?

Did you know it was Bush who actually had the WTC towers wired to blow up and that the airplanes were just CGIs?

You're a "hoot" - as they say.


Oh, btw, I'm not all that worried about you being banned - you'll eventually do it to yourself.

Kook leftists can't help themselves.

koolmuse
"I think I missed your point."

You're missing quite a few things (missing some marbles, missing some dots from your dice, etc.).

The Men behind the curtain..
I don't think Obama has a centrist bone. I'm worried about those that will be his liasions to the Cabinet members, those "behind the scenes" people that don't have to go through Confirmation hearings....

Finally, "kookmuse"

You need to get this through that thick cranium of yours.

Unless & until there is a Constitutional Amendment that disarms the citizens, neither you nor anyone else is going to get them.

And if you think the military will enforce such an unconstitutional law - you better look at the numbers of our military who are NRA members.

Ya gotta LOVE IT! Ha Ha Ha Ha....

"Imaging guru: 'Certification' of birth
time, location is fake

'It would be hard to perform as president from behind jail cell door at Leavenworth'"

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82503

"A document expert contends the "Certification of Live Birth" Barack Obama's campaign posted online to rebut charges the president-elect fails the Constitution's natural-born citizen requirement is criminally fraudulent.

"The Obama campaign has told WND such allegations are "garbage," but Dr. Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in instructional media specializing in computer technology such as printers, scanners and digital imaging, disagrees. His analyses have been posted online in a YouTube video, which also is embedded here:

"Polarik explained to WND his four months of research on the images, including nearly 1,000 test images using actual scans and photographs of real certificates, indicate there are several "giveaways" on the image itself. For example, the document has gray and white between the lettering, not green pixels as the rest of the background document, suggesting someone cut-and-pasted or typed new information that was embedded on top of the background. "


There's PLENTY MORE... check out the link...


THIS JUST KEEPS GETTIN BETTER and BETTER and BETTER and BETTER.... LOL....


GunnyG-Anne-Primus-Ken-Lolo-Others
A KoolMuse Poem

Roses are Red.
Violets are Blue.
I’m Schizophrenic
And so am I.

Double Standards - Typically Leftist

It's amusing that leftists like "kookmuse" want we conservatives to accept the will of the people with Obama, to "get over it", but they can't accept the results of CA's Prop 8 or the SCOTUS ruling on the "individual right" to keep and bear arms.

GunnyG-Didn't Hitchcock make this movie?
I'm willing to bet KoolMuse and his mother own a hotel in rural CA. BUT his mother hasn't been seen in a while and he collects knives.

Georgetwin

Yeah! Quite a coincidence.

I just loved "kookmuse's" reply to GunnyG.

Apparently, the "kook" hasn't been around here very long to think he's ever going to catch the Gunny on Constitutional issues.

There is NO QUESTION that Bozo is a

"man of the people..."

Michelle gets some bling!
(Fr Glenn Beck email....)

"Despite her numerous unwitting attempts to foil her husbands' run at the White House, President-elect Barack Obama said thanks to Michelle the only way a normal guy (just like you) would -- with diamonds. Not just any diamond, either. Barack went for some serious bling. Still ashamed of the country Michelle -- or are you no longer bitter while clinging to your bling? Check out the rock Mr. 'man of the people' gave Michelle."

Wanna see this little 'ring?'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1090653/B arack-Obama-denies-claim-buy-rare-20-000-rhodium-ring-wife- say-thanks-support.html


Wonder how those Bozo Obama workers think about their "pre-paid" Visa cards for payment now????


Primus-Ken-GunnyG-Anne-IfOnly-Others
Notice how when it gets close to school letting out, The Trolls DISAPPEAR! Coincidence? Cause & Effect?

Hahahaha, "kookmuse"
Re: Your 3:16 PM
-----

Have you attended the "William Jefferson Clinton School of Law & Parsing"?

I used to think your idiotic statements & ad hominem attacks should be banned.

Now I'm convinced you do a valuable service here.

Whenever a conservative gets asked what that mean by a tin-foil hat-wearing moonbat, they can just point to your posts.

Hahahaha...

koolmuse
You wrote: "Subject: If Only
The "creator" appeared in the Declaration of Independence I believe...not the US Constitution."

So, you have done some reading, haven't you? Excellent.

Now, why don't you comment on the substance of my response?

I repeat what I said, you need to examine the 'preamble' to the 'bill of rights' before espousing that about which you know little. Context is everything!

Continue to have a good day.

Whoa! I must have hit koolmutt's last

little nerve!

So, here's the game! :-)

From koolmutt's first post on THIS THREAD only, the first person to find something... anything of intelligence, substance, or worth... until, say.... 12midnight... gets a prize!

Of course, for fairness, we don't expect any winners since koolmutt has YET to ever post anything of intelligence, substance, or worth, but we'll keep looking, just in case! LOL



koolmuse
I'll leave you with a quote from the father of modern conservatism.

“People crushed by laws, have no hope but to evade power. If the laws are their enemies, they will be enemies to the law; and those who have most to hope and nothing to lose will always be dangerous.” Edmund Burke

With a tax code (written by libs) now at 44,000 pages, 5.5 million words, and 721 different forms I rest my case.

We're tired of liberals, liberalism, tax and spenders, and a corrupt Congress. At a 9% approcal rate, they should stop, pull their head out, and take a good look around. We're p*ssed and somehow, I don't think that ACORN will help you this time.

Form of militia
Depends on the form of the "militia".

Castro had his militia... led by Che (Just look for his face on the T-shirts of liberals everywhere... they love commie assassins.)

Hitler had his militia.. the SS

koolmuse
Let me get this straight:

1. The Constitution guarantees no one the right to bear arms.
2. The Constitution does give states the right to organize militias.

So you're saying states have the right to form militias, as long as they're unarmed?


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Georgetwin

If "kookmuse" is an addict - he's obviously not in recovery where the first tenet is getting honest with oneself.

I knew there really were some people that far off their rockers - but the "kook" is in a class by himself.

I've emailed some family and friends who think I have exaggerated his posts to log on and see for themselves.

Who knows - maybe he is writing satire (poorly).

koolmuse
How many jobs have you ever held that were given out by the corner bum?

You commielibs are SO blind to the realities of the market and basic economics, it's really not funny anymore, it's pathetic.

koolmuse
As soon as some gun-prohibition lawyer sees the light that I showed you.

"The people" have the right to bear arms.... not the individual. No such right is expressed... nor is it prohibited.
It is therefore a "privilege not a right".
As a privilege it is subject to whatever level of control or freedom the government deems fit for the public safety.

Uh, sorry brainiac but changing the Constitutional Amendment requires a wee bit more than some shyster yapping.

As for your knowledge of the Constuitution, it's nearly as low as your IQ. But your arrogance? It's as high as the messiah's is.

But please, as I said, attempt to take the guns away from 80 million LEGAL gun owners. THAT will be funny to see.

laughable
Oh those evil rich.

When they pay taxes, they must pay high percentages of lots of money, but when they get it back as a refund, they should get no refund or refunds based on the smallest wage earner and not based on what they paid originally.

I guess these liberals work for only small businesses or for poor people that own businesses that are not for profit. I mean those are the job creators...right?

GunnyG
That must be the case.

BTW...http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,460109,00.html

LMAO! HIC!

Primus54
Telling Ken to chew on HIS interpretation(s) of The Constitution?!?!?!

Koolmuse shouls chew on HIS Methadone Pills.

Georgetwin
Those liberal run states are out of money and can no longer afford to give the libnuts their high pressure cranial-anal colonics and thus, the crap between their ears builds up and spills out here on TH!

Koolmuse is living proof.....
...That some Open Minds, should be closed for repair.


KM, I'd like to see things from your perspective, but I can't seem to get my head that far up my own butt.



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kookmuse opines:

"It is therefore a "privilege not a right".
As a privilege it is subject to whatever level of control or freedom the government deems fit for the public safety."
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Wow... you just make this stuff up as you go along, don't you?

Yes - I'm sure you are SOOOOO brilliant that no real gun-prohibition lawyer has ever thought of that!

Do you kneel down at night and pray to yourself?

(And I thought NOBODY could top "Ranger29/Robert" in narcissism!)

Lolo
I knew there were LOTS of haunted houses in CA. I DID NOT know that The Evil Spirits knew how to type :)!

Lolo1
Re: kookmuse's response to you.

I had to laugh.

I immediately saw the picture of some little snot-nosed kid, fingers in his ears, yelling:

"La, la, la... I can't hear you!"

GunnyG©

Excellent education you gave to "kookmuse" on the "People" issue of the Constitution.

He won't change his mind, though. Anything that conflicts with his worldview is discarded on arrival (DOA).

He is so open-minded, his brain fell out years ago.

koolmuse
Gunny:
A two-month tax holiday for all working Americans?

1. Yeah, sorry that excludes you but there it is.

2. Also, figures that a leftist like you would react thusly but then considering point 1 above, I should not be surprised.

"kool"muse
"They are subject to federal control in times of war or national emergency."

The Second Amendment doesn't say that.

"You can read all about it in the US Constitution Sections 1 & 2."

Sections 1 and 2 of which article? Or do you not know the difference between an article and a section?

Anne-GunnyG-Lolo-Primus-Others
WTH is going on? Did CA, MD and MA run out of Lithium?

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If you need a look at the stupid liberal moonbats, check this site:

http://www.zombietime.com/operation_first_casualty/

Zombie needs the Medal of Freedom for her efforts to chronicle the stupidity of liberalism.

Probably will have to wait until we chuck this current crop of retards into the cesspool in 2010.