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Friday, July 25, 2008
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
The New York Times and Liberal Fairness
by David Limbaugh
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I don't know which troubles me more: the liberal media's fawning over Barack Obama or the great number of people who are buying into his mystique so uncritically. But what bothers me more than either of these is the arrogance of the liberal press, which sadly is typical of so many liberals.

The media's deification of Obama is largely responsible for the perception that Obama is superhuman. Their coverage of his European tour -- the most breathtakingly presumptuous junket we've witnessed in American politics in ages -- is but the latest example.

How anyone can fall for the media's Obama rock star charade, given his repeated demonstrations of unfitness for the presidency, is a subject better suited for psychoanalysts.

But we can chalk up the media's irrational exuberance to their eagerness to have someone of like mind -- someone sufficiently socialistic and appeasement-oriented -- back in the Oval Office. With their insane aversion for President Bush and their craving for undefined change, it's hardly surprising they're blind to Obama's increasingly obvious flaws.

What's more difficult to stomach is their reckless obliviousness to their own close-mindedness, intolerance, unreasonableness and conceit -- and their mistaken projection of these attributes onto their conservative opponents.

Contrary to liberal-spawned conventional wisdom, it is not conservatives who are selective enemies of free expression, agents of intolerance or threatened by opposing views, which they are confident can be slain in the marketplace of ideas. It is not conservatives who dominate academia or who see it as their mission not just to instruct in their disciplines but also to engage in worldview indoctrination. It is not conservatives who, behind the mask of protecting "victims," censor political and religious speech on campus and in the public square.

It is not conservatives who, having lost in the talk radio marketplace of ideas, are pushing to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine to suppress political viewpoints they find objectionable. And it is not conservative newspaper editors who -- masquerading as objective, high-minded journalists -- exhibit the stunning audacity to refuse publication of an op-ed by the presidential candidate they oppose, after having published one from the one they endorse.

This brings me to the major source of my angst: The New York Times' rejection of Sen. McCain's op-ed in response to the one it published the previous week by Sen. Obama on his plan for Iraq.

Honestly, when I first heard reports about this, I thought they were in jest -- lampooning the Times' liberal bias. But I was quite wrong.

David Shipley, the Times' op-ed editor, sent an e-mail to McCain's staff rejecting the piece and offering suggestions on how to tailor it for resubmission. "I'm not going to be able to accept this piece as currently written. … Let me suggest an approach."

Just savor the dripping condescension. But it gets worse. Shipley said: "The Obama piece worked for me because it offered new information; … he went into detail about his own plans. It would be terrific to have an article from Senator McCain that mirrors Senator Obama's piece." It would have to "articulate, in concrete terms, how Senator McCain defines victory in Iraq … lay out a clear plan for achieving victory -- with troop levels, timetables and measures for compelling the Iraqis to cooperate."

In other words, it would have to use liberalspeak and "mirror" the messiah's. I'm almost speechless.

Liberal commentators, in defending the Times' position, are just as congenitally incapable of seeing this issue clearly. One such clarity-challenged defender argued it was reasonable for the Times to demand that McCain address the issues it raised.

That wholly misses the point. McCain is not a pundit in training submitting an opinion piece for publication, but the presumptive Republican presidential nominee presenting his side of the case. Sheer fairness alone would mandate that the Times run McCain's piece uncensored, as it did his opponent's.

Those saying the Times has an absolute right to reject McCain's work embarrass themselves. This is not about the Times' rights, but the propriety and fairness in their editorial decisions, the mindset leading them to those decisions and their inability to see their own mind-numbing bias in the process.

The left supports campaign finance reform, the Fairness Doctrine and other policies allegedly aimed at ensuring that both sides of the political argument be aired. But it's a colossal fraud.

The Times' rejection of McCain's piece is a case study in how liberals apply these principles. They don't believe in both sides presenting their viewpoints, but in controlling the nature and scope of the discussion.

Can you imagine what would be in store for political speech in this country if liberals resumed regulatory control of the airways?

I can and am horrified at the prospect; and you should be, too.

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David Limbaugh, brother of radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, is an expert in law and politics and author of Bankrupt: The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of Today's Democratic Party.
 
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IT REALLY ISNT..

CONSERVATIVES are NOT responsible for forcing their views on others, this is true.

However, those IN AMERICA who call themselves CONSERVATIVE...

...ARE NOT.

They are pro-"white", pro-protestant, fascist traitors.

The self-proclaimed "conservative" and "liberal" people in this country are typically ANYTHING BUT THAT!

Enjoy this while it lasts, "whites" of America...

... because when this country becomes aware of this very false view of what is left and right, the history books will show you for what you really are.

I only wish I could freeze myself and pop out a few centuries later when this is all said and done, oh well.

I must be a flippin' prophet!!!
I have been saying for weeks now that McCain is NOT the third Bush term because he has built all of his rep on backstabbing GOP leaders and in particular conservatives.

On the other hand O'Vomit IS the second Carter term and now now has a ne-er do well low-life deadbeat brother who will be Billy Carter II!!!

I LOVE when reality sets in.

-Ray
NRA Life Member

Artemis' Arrow
"We didn't try to elect Gore a second time."

No, you tried to force him on the country via the courts AFTER he had already lost the election.

"You conservatives seem to think the First Amendment doesn't apply to people who disagree with you, whether it's the press, a political candidate or a differing poster on TH."

Conservatives aren't the ones who censored John McCain from the NY Times. Conservatives aren't the ones who are trying to censor talk radio by bringing back the so-called "Fairness Doctrine."

I have never disputed ANY liberal's right to post opinions on TH or anywhere else. However, I will excercise MY First Amendment right to respond to such opinions and expose them for the garbage that they are. If you don't like that, that's your problem. As a famous Democrat used to say, "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."

The 1st Amendment and the Fourth Estate
I don't always agree with the media, in any form. Papers, magazines, Talk show hosts,and Television News. I am a supporter of the 1st Amendment and the Fourth Estate is one of our founding freedoms. The media is aware of the "Fairness Doctrine" and the numerous times that Obama has misled his own media entourage for secret or private meetings or changing schedules without keeping them informed. They should listen more closely to his words and the words of his supporters. If he gets into office the media will come under his control,will print only what he wants the public to hear and will have watchdogs assigned as censors. The "liberal" news will be most impacted. The New Yorks Times, LA Times, Washington Post, ABC, NBC and CBS will be some of the first to enjoy the suppression of censorship by Obama. There are numerous words that will nevermore be allowed to be used in any form of media. The seeds of this subversion are bearing fruit even as this post is written. Don't tell me that the current explosion of friction amongst the media is not being orchestrated. Don't say the media hasn't been advised to step back and look at the erosion of their right to talk, publish, and seek real news without increased censorship. Jihad, Islamist, Terrorist Islam are all prohibited. What's next and who will decide what where and when the media may develop and post a story ?

The bias of the main stream...
media on behalf of Obama is really any eye opener. This stunt pulled of by the NYT demonstrates this bias. The NYT is not interested in reporting news anymore. The NYT is interested in promoting a left wing socialist political agenda. Someone asked if the Washington Times ever published a liberal letter to the editor and the answer is yes. I read the McCain letter and it was in fact well written. The NYT rejection had to do with the content of the letter. They were protecting their candidate Obama period.

Anne, your Pathetic post
... at Date: Jul 25, 2008 - 6:24 PM EST just illustrates more whining and crying by you silly McCainiacs.

There is a difference between simply stating facts as Obama did and what McCain does. The McCain campaign is basing its whole strategy on snivelling and crying in public over hurt feelings whenever the press doesn't drop everything and put on a newsflash when McCain sneezes or bleats out the same old list of complaints he has been saying for three months.

Only a glutton for punishment or someone too stupid to remember a single sentence for 2 minutes fails to yawn and doze off whenever you see McCain on TV. Its all about "he was right about the surge."

Here is what you hear from McCain every time you see him on TV

...."Obama pats everyone else on the back but he doesn't praise me for being right. Poor me, I told everyone Obama needed to travel abroad and take me with him, but he went and REFUSED to take me. Now he gets all the publicity and I'm stuck here in a German restaurant eating sausages with the 2 or 3 dimwit ditto heads my campaign staff could dredge up and Obama looks presidential.

... Whine, Whine, Whine, what is an aging war hero to do. I don't get no respect any more. I wish I was younger. Whine, Whine, Whine.........
..... Wait why are you all leaving.....
..... come back.... I got something interesting to say..... someone wake that guy up over there... we need a photo of someone.... anyone... listening to me.... I was right... Hear me.... I was right...... Why o Why won't Obama tell people I was right.... Pretty please Barack.... just tell them I was right....."

Who wants to vote for such a wimp.

Well Wobbie,
I see that you're here making a fool of yourself again. Must you continue to embarrass te Navy with your insanity?

Robert An Old, Old Stupid Troll
He's been around for ages, and he says the stupidest most outrageous things. 340 posts and a ton of them are trying to help Wobbie get his head straight. Futile: a rock is a rock. He likes stirring up the waters, and gets a sick thrill.

Scroll past the trolls and tell the rest of us something useful and interesting. We aren't here to read responses to stupid trolls

Robert Scribbles:
Man you are a bad phoney...really a bad one.

not even a good liar.

The thread is off the board...so this is it for me...you and the witless can carry on..

And this is a perfect description of the "man" you see in the mirror when you shave, assuming of course you are permitted to possess sharp objects.

Obvious Cheerleaders for Obama
Anyone with at least one eye can see what's going on this campaign cycle. The media wants Obama elected one way or another, regardless of the detriment to America. We aren't happy with the blatant, one-sidedness of the MSM, and their drastic drop in publication sales proves it.

IQis29
Run Wobbie the Coward! Run!

USMC Lt.
Wobbie is no Navy Officer.
He could not pass the tests to be an ordinary Seaman.

Every rank in the Navy has tests and Wobbie knows NOTHING about the Navy.

ModMark
Fine, I have NO PROBLEM with folks leaning Left or Right. However, the Left want to silence The Right VIA reintroduction of The Fairness Doctrine. Rgeek PLEADED for someone to answer him when he posted Liberals in their own words describing their bias. DEAFENING SILENCE! You must admit Freddy AKA MDog, Hal Drunkahue, Robert, Kimberly show up specifically to insult and disrupt. No attempt at discussing the flipside, right into “ You Ignorant, Gun Loving, Bible Toters”.

No you are not trash, you appear to be an amused observer at best and an Pavlovian Moderate at worst.

MyOpine
Wobbie has less spine than a jellyfish and more yellow down his back than Big Bird.

Wobbie the Wal-Mart Coward
As always, the Gutless way out. How many folks have called you out? 4 that I know of including me. How many have you ducked? ALL OF THEM! Like I said, IF you grow a set, Anytime and Any place. Until then, Scram Pee-Wee! You bother me!

Georgetwin
Anyone as obnoxious as Wobbie is subject to miff the wrong guy at any moment and test the final truth of his religious belief.

Is it wise to volunteer to be a prime suspect?

JMO51

I am not sure whether you are correct or not about the owners and publishers.

The radio is pretty much dominated by conservatives and their sponsors are making money.

The Press that is either dominated by Liberals or Conservatives are for the most part not making money.

I think citizens want printed news that is news and not partisan unless it is clearly stated that what is written is opinion.

My newspaper that I read has a weekly opinion piece with a debate subject and a conservative and a liberal writing their opinion pieces on the subject - I like that.

I believe America has the genius to solve some really sticky problems if ideology didn't get in the way.

I believe there could be a solution to solve children not being fed properly - but I do not believe the government could manage it.

I have written my elected officials about an idea - no response back.

Have nutrionists pick a hand full of items that would keep a human alive for an extended period of time. Have the companies who produce that food make it at a profit and distribute it to grocery chains. Grocery chains would make it available to everyone that wants it at a profit.
Black markets wouldn't pop up because it would be available to Bill Gates or a homeless person. Use the honor system of course many would violate it.

I figured up a few years ago that we would save billions a year even if 50% cheated. Take the government out of it.

Wobie Wonder Wabbit!
You are boring tonight. Give me something new for my list;

Wobbie tells us he is a Captain in the U.S. Navy, an active duty combat pilot flying daily patrols over Iraq,

And he does not know Ordinance Color Codes.
And he can't describe a Division Gunnery Efficiency Pennant.
And he can't describe a Division Engineering Efficiency Pennant.
And he can't tell you what a BlackBaller is.
And he can't tell you what it signals when a ship hoists a single red dovetail pennant.
And he can't tell you the ransom paid by a Carrier for returning a downed pilot.
And he claims to be one of the men who held the "Halp us Jon Cary" sign.
And he claims to be a Border Patrol pilot.
And he claims to be an Airline Captain.
And he claims to be a Navy test pilot.
And he claims to be a civilian test pilot.
And he claims to be an FAA Flight Examiner.
And he claims to be a Republican and also a delegate to the Democrat convention.
And he claims to be a College Professor making psychiatric evaluations of our posts here at TH.
And wally discovered Wobbie does not know how to fly an airplane.
And he claims to be an advisor to our Admirals.
And he claims to be a Mid East Consultant.
And he claims to have been a Vice Cop.
And he claims to have attended the U.S. Marshal's course.
And he claims to have graduated the FBI Acadamy.
And he claims The U.S. Congress passed a Bill just so he could be both a Navy Officer & a "Peace Officer".
And he claims the Russians were so impressed they let him take their latest military craft for a spin at an Air Show.
And I can't get Wobbie to tell me if that Russian airplane has a slot for quarters like the plane he flies in front of Wal*Mart.

Wobbie
Of course you do, safely hidden by Internet Anonymity. If you ever grow a set, name your time, place and style of combat.

JMO51
What ends up on the pages? Left or Right Leaning Journalism?

OK
At 11:20 PM 07/25/2008 the clock starts. Lets see how long until Wal-Mart Wobbie the Coward is banned again.

Wobbie Fantasy Wabbit.
Are you impersonating an officer AGAIN?

Either or Wobbie;

Are you impersonating a Navy Officer?
(Flying daily patrol in Iraq? From Texas? Bet you are good at mid-air refueling!)
How many quarters does it take to get from Kay*Mart to Iraq?


If you are a Navy officer then are you willfully violating the UCMJ?


Hurry and tell us Wobbie before they come to take you away and we never know!

Retire Geeks
I stand corrected. Most of the editors are liberal. But the publishers and owners are conservative.

Ranger29
You are a COWARD!

RGeek
Vaya Con Dios!

Bob_C
I enjoy SPIRITED discussion with the regulars here. However, trash like Freddy, Hal Drunkahue and other Gutless Trash show up ONLY to insult and derail the discussion. No other reason for them to be here other than to discuss the flipside which they NEVER do. I SPECIFICALLY warned Hal and others to cease and desist or they would be on the receiving end of like treatment.

Bob_C
I agree with your premise.

Many posters here are either not well read or have little political knowledge - that being said - they still bring a lot to the debate as one has to be way above average in intelligence just to get to these discussions.

Experts are easily confused at times.

The bottom line is that we should all stay with facts during a debate and not use personal attacks. However there is a good deal of entertainment value here as well - and many need that so I am ok with it.

HalD and I have actually agreed on some issues (not many) and there may be the faintest glimmer of hope that he is still teachable.

I hope that I am still teachable.

My biggest problem here at TH is that I was raised a Humanist/Atheist Marxist. Many in my family still are. I know Marxism when I see it because I read every book imaginable as a youngster and was well versed in it.

I can spot Marxism like a jewler can spot a good diamond or a person who raises show dogs can spot a champion in a litter. I get very frustrated when people cannot see the Marxism being sold by Obama today.

I said a lot to say this - we are ok from my end. I doubt that the namecalling will ever stop in the human race much less here at TH.

Have a good evening.

RGeek
Lemmings eventually follow their leader to their death. So it will be with Liberals.

Georgetwin et al

The facts are clear that the MSM is overwhemingly biased to the left in their own words.

That being said, Liberals should acknowledge their advantage and 'man up' to it. An honest person will say straight up yes we are Liberal or no we are not.

One of the Liberal editors said when asked is the NYT biased and Liberal gave an honest answer and I can respect him for that.

“Of course it is....These are the social issues: gay rights, gun control, abortion and environmental regulation, among others. And if you think The Times plays it down the middle on any of them, you’ve been reading the paper with your eyes closed.”
— New York Times Public Editor Daniel Okrent in a July 25, 2004 column which appeared under a headline asking, “Is The New York Times a Liberal Newspaper?”

USMC Lt.
The only Marine that Wobbie ever whipped was The G.I. Joe version and that took him an hour.

Anne
WOW! The Libs were ANGRY today. Must be because of the YAWN Obama got stateside. Obama in Europe amounts to A Heathen Coward trying to convince Europe’s Heathen Cowards the he (Parasail Obama) is as big of a Heathen Coward as any Frenchman.

Gtwin: The silence is often DEAFENING

when it comes to RGeek's posts...

RGeek NAILS it every time, and they have NOTHING to come back with....

RGeek is not just good, he's GREAT!!!

Retired Geek

Please understand, I'm not talking about you. You're one of the posters I read and enjoy.

Humor, satire and even irreverance to make a point is certainly fair game. But there's a broad line between roughness and disrespect. I too have lost it often and I'm trying VERY hard to refrain from lowering myself to ad hominem attacks.

For example, while I agree with many of GunnyG's points, I abhor the way he presents them. It's as if he can't seem to argue without attempting to humiliate his opponent. He's apparently unaware that that approach will never change the mind of his opponent, if of course that is his goal. I rather think he's enjoying preaching to the choir.

Bob_C: With MadMark one never knows!

And there is a reason I refer to him as "MAdMark rather than "MOdMark" and it isn't because he's just angry.



Mac Moore
Hal Drunkahue struggles to read "Green Eggs and Ham".

Mac Moore
"Date: Jul 25, 2008 - 10:20 PM EST Subject: "...I do not read the New York Times, anymore, because of their obvious diversion from news to propaganda. "

LMAO of course you cannot! It is written to the sixth grade reading level... ;>)

RGeek
The silence was DEAFENING on your posts regarding Liberal Bias.

Anne-MacMoore
Bloat and Excess are 2 of Hal Drunkahue's favorite things. His Fat, Bloated, Blubbery, Beer Belly and The Excess of Lies he tells!

Modmark

Is it that I failed to clearly state my case, or are you just trying to open a specious peripheral argument?


Bob_C

I am not going to follow your example and I am not asking you to follow mine.

I ignore many posters here, some I simply scroll past their names - some no longer exist in my world.

I do not try and tell others how to behave themselves one way or another.

This is just a suggestion - ignore those who irritate you as I do.

However, you are your own man as I am.

I try to present three things here:
1) Facts.
2) Opinion.
3) Satire.

I am not perfect and at times I get personal - my intent is to never get personal with criticism.

I am an individualist and do not like collective groups and I will always criticize them.

I have always stood up for black Americans here and I have always criticized those who hyphenate and call themselves African-American.

I promote the idea that every American Citizen should have the same rights and protections under the Constitution and Bill of Rights - no more - no less.

I believe the immigrant who was sworn in 5 minutes ago is just as valid a US citizen as those who go back generations - if they are not here legally they should have no considerations period.

ModMark
You remind me of George Carlin replacing the word kill with the f-word in western movies. It is funny how "kill" is less offensive.

Anne
Did you check his FEC filing? He gets 15% of everything donated - I guess Malkin is getting a kickback well wait let's be nice a gratuity LOL

MadMark writes: "Ah Anne, Th would be so

boring without you..... "

So I've been told, many, many times.

Cheers! :-)

Bob_C: Ahh yes, halD!

Here's the thing... The other day, after several idiot and inane halD postings, a Conservative poster suggested that for every stupid and inange post by halD, each of us put a quarter (or whatever we wished) into a jar until we each collect enough money to send to the William Russall campaign.

William Russell is a Conservative who is running against the infamous John-I never met an earmark I didn't love-Murtha (halD is a HUGE fan of Murtha.)

Isn't it so nice of hal the baby killer to motivate us so... At $.25 per hal the idiot post, I'll have a check for at least $25.00 to send to the Bill Russell campaign in a week or so. :-)




Cleverness Of Me

"No word yet on whether he plans on starting a brewery."

LMAO!! That's funny!

Hal Donahue Defines Contradiction
Hal Donahue offers, "NO ONE has created the bloat and excess that conservatives have ..."

Oh, my!

So, your cure for bloat and excess by the Conservatives is to out-spend them with even more phenominal spending as Obama has promised? How does that work?

ModMark
Are you posting from a beer bottle?
You are unusually incoherent.

The Circle is Complete
What would a Democratic president be without a deadbeat half-brother? Now they have found Muslim Bernard, Barack Obama's half-brother, living in social housing in the UK.

No word yet on whether he plans on starting a brewery.

Retired Geek

Perhaps I'm in error. But I've only seen Sophie post here today. Had she engaged in the sort of behavior you described, I obviously would not have been impressed.

But my point still stands, regardless of my mistake.

Political Combat - No Holds Barred
The New York Times, by censoring McCain, has officially moved itself from Newspaper to Campaign Pamphlet.

I do not read the New York Times, anymore, because of their obvious diversion from news to propaganda. Interestingly, I noticed that their stock has dropped and their prices have increased. Sooner or later, they will probably be dependant on "contributions".

I will continue to read the Wall Street Journal (center right) and The Economist (left), at least they manage to keep their personal opinions separate from news. They manage to allow the combatants to fight without restrictions or mufflers.

To heck with rules. Cat Fight!!!!

doofus the baby killer: Your 10:05PM
post.

Not sure if you posted that just for the "shock" value, or you're knowingly LYING, or if you're just blind drunk....

But, that post ALONE is worth $.50 in the "Elect Bill Russell" collection jar.

Thanks. :-)



Anne

Again, at the risk of belaboring the point, I submit that HalD brings nothing of value to the discussion. Why do you bother even acknowledging his presence, never mind launching a personal attack on him?

You're better than that. You make HalD look like a drooling moron - it's obvious to even the casual observer. It's not necessary to attack him. Shunning is far more effective.

BobC
Are you saying you wish you could have the wit of Sophie?

BobC wrote: "...Sophie especially has a cutting wit that I wish I could develop..."

Sophie has been banned here about 10 or 12 times for saying the most vile things about people. Are you new around here?

If you wish you could be like Sophie I hope you can achieve your goal.

Several posters here Sophie is one, you may notice I never respond to - they have blasphemed God, Jesus they have made fun of some of the members here dead parents. The list could go on and on.

I wish you would clarify your position so I can settle my position about you.


Hal The enemy Collaborator.
This is why Democrats "are done."
Democrats now control both the House & Senate.

Democrats deliberately created our Gas/Energy crisis for political purpose.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/high_gas_prices_and_ the_marxis.html

Democrats concocted the Agrarian Global Warming Hoax as an attempt to tax the working poor.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121244985951839615.html?mod =opinion_main_commentaries

Democrats manufacture fictional atrocities to blame our troops for;
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5509FEE E-FCFE-4926-8C62-AB8EA4B124FB

Democrats organize Communist groups to directly assist our enemy by hindering recruitment.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=099900E 0-DB3A-4C88-A861-25B2AB88EE16

Democrats have corrupted our schools with Anti-American politics and cheat our children of proper education.
http://www.anxietycenter.com/subversion.htm
http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10249 &news_iv_ctrl=1076

Democrats refuse to protect our Borders and allow violent Mexican criminals to victimize Americans.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=7E5C344 E-CBA7-4698-ADE0-AD39092135EC

Democrats caused the Subprime Mortgage Meltdown.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo125.html

Democrats do everything they can to harm Americans.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=CC8C8AC E-504B-4E91-81C9-F15EA8B2F7E7

And the only thing certain about Obama is his own uncertainty;
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=997810D C-EC74-4818-887E-A959B3219834

Tell me why you hate the Boy Scouts Hal.

Bob_C: Surely you jest!!!!

"Libtard" or Libstain" is NOTHING compared to any one of a number of vile and vulgar things that Sophie, Freddy and Artimes' Arrow, and a number of other liberal have posted.... each of whom has been banned because of their abhorrent behavior, insults, and name calling.

"Adult" is not a term... or even close to a term that I'd associate with any of them, or haldoofus either.

If "cutting wit" is what you consider sophie's posts, and wish you could develop... you leave me speechless.

Anne
"Date: Jul 25, 2008 - 9:48 PM EST Subject: Bob_C: Excellent! Well said!

Except one point....
.. huge, grossly expensive and expansive government is EXACTLY what Obama and his followers want... which of course, is why I have been referring to him as Marxist Obama for the past several months."

NO ONE has created the bloat and excess that conservatives have - that is why you are done

Hal The enemy Collaborator.
Your #280 post did a good job of blaming Conservatives for what Liberals have done.

You never did tell me why you hate the Boy Scouts and want NAMBLA to furnish Scout Masters!

Oh good! halDoofus the baby killer is

baaaaaaack... and another $.25 in the "Elect Bill Russell" collection jar....

Oh wait... hal the baby killer has posted twice... so now there's $.25 X 2.

Thanks hal the baby killer... That jar is filling up faster than I thought it would...


cleverness of me
Artemis' Arrow did not come her to debate politics.
She (it) came here expressly to be a nuisance and insult Conservatives.

She pulled a HalD and insulted me then ran.
I have a good memory.

Rancor

I find it very difficult to read a post constantly laced with epithets such as "Libtard" or Libstain" or any of the other hundreds of childish labels used by both sides to demean an opponent. And frankly, today at least, most of those were posted by those who call themselves conservatives (as if they really knew what conservatism is).

As much as I disagree with Sophie, Freddy and Artimes' Arrow, they at least conduct themselves as adults. Sophie especially has a cutting wit that I wish I could develop.

My point is, that if we all ignore the loud, childlike posters who engage in little more than blatent ad hominem attacks, and show the respect that's due those who state their case like adults, maybe TH can eventually rid itself of the former.

Bob_C
"...But right or left, ...evil federal government that is inexorably leading this great country to social and economic ruin."

Rubbish! It is citizens and a failed philosphy that essentially said ignore everything the greatest generation did and use up what they built. Do not replace it, do not improve it - just use it. By the time the bill comes due you will be dead with a free ride the whole time. That folks is what conservatism became

Bob_C: Excellent! Well said!

Except one point....

".... we all realize that the enemy is not each other, but the huge, grossly expensive, incompetent and outright evil federal government that is inexorably leading this great country to social and economic ruin."

That's precisely what's at stake NOW.. THIS election!

A huge, grossly expensive and expansive government is EXACTLY what Obama and his followers want... which of course, is why I have been referring to him as Marxist Obama for the past several months.

And it is drawn right down party lines! There is no getting away from that.


Anne - Obama and Rock Festivals
A record crowd of 75,000 gathers for Obama in Oregon.
By Jim Tankersley Chicago Tribune correspondent
12:41 AM CDT, May 19, 2008
PORTLAND, Ore. - They waited for hours under a warm sun, the line snaking for blocks and blocks through downtown. They packed onto the park lawn, from the makeshift stage to the waterfront and up to the street. They watched from a bridge overhead and from pleasure boats on the river, bikini-clad.

They brought their parents and their infants. Some skipped work. Some wilted in the heat. A few jammed the streets afterward, hoping for a final motorcade glimpse. Fire department officials counted 75,000 in all, a record for the main attraction, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.).
------------------------------------------------
It appears that many of the 75,000 “Obama worshipers” in Portland last weekend really turned up to see a free concert by an uber-hip Portland band, the Decemberists. Of course, the MSM didn’t report this fact because it might dampen the story of the new and wonderful miracle of the Obamessiah.

The Decemberists start each concert with the Soviet National Anthem.

"In the victory of Communism’s deathless ideal,
We see the future of our dear land.
And to her fluttering scarlet banner,
Selflessly true we always shall stand!"




LMAO
"It is not conservatives who, having lost in the talk radio marketplace of ideas, are pushing to reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine to suppress political viewpoints they find objectionable."

OH really???? That is what you want with print, isn't it?

cleverness_of_me

There is a distinction that should also be made. When I'm speaking of liberals in general, I'm speaking of the liberal mindset, not of "All Democrats."

The liberal mindset is one in which the good of the collective overrides the good of the individual. If "society" needs the life, property or work of an individual for the sake of the collective, then to the liberal mind, that is just A-okay. In other words, if socety needs victims, so be it.

I would love to say that the so-called modern conservatives believe that the rights of the individual are inviolable, but I'd be deluding myself.

But right or left, we are all Americans and the sooner we all realize that the enemy is not each other, but the huge, grossly expensive, incompetent and outright evil federal government that is inexorably leading this great country to social and economic ruin.

The facts are right there, in plain sight. All it takes is to shed the blinders of partisanship to see the obvious.

cleverness_of_me: You are spot on!!!

And it's not just here on the web sites.

Perfect example: Shortly after Bernie Goldberg's book, "100 People Who Are Screwing Up America. Who? Why?" was published, I saw three or four interviews.

Goldberg shared that he was SHOCKED by the vile, vulgar, hateful, and nasty emails and voice mails he received from the liberals.

Since there were a few Conservatives noted in his book, he also received a some emails and voice mails from Conservatives... each and every one was, while pointed, at least courteous and polite.

Very interesting, coming from Goldberg who is not only a seasoned, life long reporter, but a life long democrat as well.

And then there are the left wing sites such as Kos and Huffy... and the vile and vulgar things posted about every Conservative who has either passed away or encountered hardship...

Artemis Arrow
While I am sure that your liberal friends toe the politically correct line when it comes to the language they use to describe women, that does not reveal what is in their hearts. I know that many liberal men are very nice and caring.

But I also know what a lot of them say when there are no women around, or after they have been married for several years and start to relax. It isn't pretty. I know a woman who was savagely seen by her Greenpeace organizer husband. I have heard ultra-liberal feminist men belittle their wives or secretaries right in front of me (but I never let it go on very long).

And that is not counting my years as a road musician, watching guys play the "sensitive liberal guy" card to bed a different woman in every town.

So do not try to tell me how conservatives are woman-haters. I admit some are, but I have seen so many misogynous liberals, and wonderful caring conservatives that the caricature doesn't work on me.

JM051
“Personally, I have a great affection for CBS News....But I stopped watching it some time ago. The unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much for me. I still check in, but less and less frequently. I increasingly drift to NBC News and Fox and MSNBC.”
— Former CBS News President Van Gordon Sauter in an op-ed published January 13, 2005 in the Los Angeles Times.

CBS self described Liberal explains CBS

“I know a lot of you believe that most people in the news business are liberal. Let me tell you, I know a lot of them, and they were almost evenly divided this time. Half of them liked Senator Kerry; the other half hated President Bush.”
— CBS’s Andy Rooney on the November 7, 2004 60 Minutes

Ret. Geek: "And a rock festival-sized

crowd of more than 200,000 gathered to see him."

The funny and pathetic part is that it REALLY was a "rock concert" since apparently there were two rock bands there ...

I'm kind of wondering jut how many people would have showed up had there NOT been a couple of rock bands.

And, I kind of guess that the "political promoters" were wondering the same thing and decided NOT to take a chance.



Artemis Arrow
I realize that some posters on the web can be quite rude, and I find it embarrassing. I apologize on behalf of those who think it is OK to use foul language. I also admit that I have been over-the-top a few times when it comes to Hillary Clinton.

That said, I think that the loudmouths are the ones that stand out, and the webs attracts people who want to say offensive things, giving a disproportionate amount of rudeness. You should have seen the liberal comments after the passing of Tony Snow. I also think that it is perfectly fair to engage a woman as aggressively in debate as you would a man. Finally, there is a difference between attacking a specific woman, and belittling women in general.

The traditional conservative view is that women are to be treated with respect, despite the caricatures you see in the media, and the poor example set by internet trolls.

Ret. Geek is right... that 82% is the

LAST QTR! Thanks for clarifying that.... :-)


Anne, et al

Robert/Hal will keep posting on here as long as people respond to him.

Since he really has nothing of value to contribute to any subject, he's not worth the effort it takes to type a reply. He's a liar. That should suffice to shun him.

Don't reply. Don't acknowledge his presence. Don't talk about him.

Ret. Geek: Turn on Hannity and

(smackdown) Colmes...

The author of that column will be on and reading the column...

Hoots all around, I'm sure.... :-)



dictators
Iran,Syria,North Korea,Cuba,Venezuela,Just about all of the continent of Africa,China.

They all control what you say,what you do, what you watch...Sounds like the USA will get change.

But these folks better remember some of us will
fight to the death for our rights.
Remember the words of Patrick Henry

JMO51 editors are bosses

Most editors are liberal - I have posted several comments today in their own words.

You are a classic uninformed Liberal whose guesses and intuition are stated as facts.

Ret. Geek: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!!!!

Sounds way too close to home for Marxist Obama.
And that's scary!!!! No doubt that's part of his plans.





New York Times profits down 82% last QTR

Liberal Radio cannot support itself.

Liberal Newspapers failing evertwhere.

NPR cannot support itself without our taxes.

Liberals need to 'steal' our money to make any of their solutions or enterprises work.

kt: "Hit them where it hurts,

their profits."

It appears that many people have done just that. The NYSlime's profits are DOWN 82%.

Even an inept businessman would know that if profits were down 82%, then you'd probably be doing something ELSE... or change your ways.


I especially like it now that the NYSlime is CALLING to beg for new subscribers... and I get a chance to tell them EXACTLY why I wouldn't let the NYSlime to darken my door... even IF I had a birdcage that needed newspaper to line it.



Obama speech?
People get ready!
(Short video on unilaterally disarming America)
http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/02/27/obama-plans-to -disarm-america

Anne et al

Also on the side of the plane was painted:

"Change We Can Believe In"

I guess the next thing we will see is 'O-Bicycles' to ride to work.

We might even see 'O-Sneakers' to walk everywhere instead of drive.

O-Tofu
O-Bus Passes
O-Youth Corps
O-Green Police
O-Hand Held Fans (no air conditioning)

Gunnyg
Conservatives have always acted like victims. It is the central premise of the movement. We would not be the fringe movement that we are if it were not for the Liberal Biased Media.

Fox News claims to have the highest ratings and yet they are not mainstream. Talk Radio is dominated by Conservatives but the whole media is biased.

Yes, most reporters are probably more liberal than conservative, but their bosses the editors and Publishers are more conservative. That said if you insult a profession don't expect a lot of people in that profession to love you.


MSM Ideology above Profits

67% of Americans think the MSM is trying to get Obama-Messiah elected.

MSM is suffering financial losses almost across the board but the Left Wing ideology is so deep in the MSM that ideology trumps profits.

Solution
Don't purchase the Times.Boycott them and Hollywood and any other liberal organizations, musicians, etc. They mock tradition and everything decent.

Hit them where it hurts, their profits.

Chris Matthews has another Thrill
Barack Obama is still giving Chris Matthews thrills. On Thursday night's Hardball, before throwing to an Obama clip, Matthews gave the following rave review, on his July 24 show, to the Illinois Senator's speech in Germany: "What, what do you make of this? Let's take another bite here because it was quite a speech. You have to judge for yourself but the speech had its thrill factor, certainly once again. Here he was."

CBS Evening News
COURIC: Good evening, everyone. It was a highly unusual scene for a candidate, smack in the middle of an American presidential campaign. It was Barack Obama in Berlin today. He was there, he said, as a citizen, not a President. But clearly the goal was to look like one for voters back home. Mark Phillips is in Berlin.

MARK PHILLIPS: They've been calling this the "Obama Show" in Berlin. His appeal here, part exotic politician, part rock star. And a rock festival-sized crowd of more than 200,000 gathered to see him.


Ret. Geek: "The American flag on the

tail wing has been replaced by an enormous Obama O."

Except that for those of us who are NOT among the "blind f-o-l-l-o-w-e-r-s" of Marxist Obama, that "O" is actually a "zero!"


correction
other

ABC's World News on Obama Speech
OBAMA: "I know my country has not perfected itself. And there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But I also know how much I love America. I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived, at great cost and great sacrifice, to form a more perfect union."
TAPPER: And as for the people who came here today, many of them gushed about his speech.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: I think he's the new President of America.
TAPPER: And as if that weren't glowing enough-
UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: I thought it was brilliant. My new messiah.
TAPPER: There was another message implicit in Senator Obama's speech today, Charlie. And that is, it might not be such a horrible thing for the United States to elect a President who is applauded by Europeans, not just protested. Of course, not every American thinks that the approval of the Europeans is to be desired.







Well, I see
that the poster who dows not call otge poster names is back it.

ABC's Tapper Obama Thinks He's President
"Reporting from inside the Obama plane, Tapper complained in a snarky tone: "Inside, the plane has been redesigned to separate the senator and his staff from us lowly reporters."

He added that Obama officials told journalists that they could brief reporters as anonymous officials. Tapper grumbled:

"One of them said that's what we did at the White House during the Clinton years. We pointed out they don't work at the White House."

Regarding the Obama plane, the ABC journalist also pointed out: "The American flag on the tail wing has been replaced by an enormous Obama O."


"Robert" How many times do I have to

tell you... It's NOT YOUR PERMISSION I THAT I NEED!

I have a BOSS to whom I answer...



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
See MyOpine, just as I said. IF he was as astute as He's oblivious and in and out of touch.


ModMark
I do not see a balanced solution for us Proletariat.

With the FCC we certainly have enough Government involved.
The Free Market has failed TV because Bourgeoise cared more about partisan politics than profit.

I seem to remember a song about what we would do to the Bourgeoise during the Revolution!

On a more serious note;
I don't see any way to regulate TRUTH in broadcasting.
Any attempt would probably silence political speech entirely just like the "Fairness Doctrine" did.
Breaking up the big monopolies so there is more competition might help.

Is the NYT Liberal
When is a Liberal going to respond to this?

“Of course it is....These are the social issues: gay rights, gun control, abortion and environmental regulation, among others. And if you think The Times plays it down the middle on any of them, you’ve been reading the paper with your eyes closed.”
— New York Times Public Editor Daniel Okrent in a July 25, 2004 column which appeared under a headline asking, “Is The New York Times a Liberal Newspaper?”


Oh "Robert": :-)
You're just pathetic...

And, yes... again... I KNOW your LAST NAME! I KNOW EVERYTHING there IS to know about you... and far, far, far MORE than I ever wanted to...

MyOpine: It appears that sometimes

he's actually somewhat "aware" at least enough to recognize what's going on around him.... Those seem to be the times he get angry and lashes back...

Other times, he seems to be oblivious to pretty much everything, which are the times he just keeps on posting, making up things as he goes along...

And he obviously has some OCD issues since we've seen how he just focuses on "some things" and can't let them go no matter how many times he's told differently.


MyOpine: Yes, he is into inventing

fantasy lives for himself. And he's actually quite good at it. (Not the healthiest of things.)

Unfortunately, he isn't living in some mental institution, but he should be.... However, he very well maybe living in another kind of institution.... if you know what I mean... LOL



"Robert": PAY ATTENTION if you can....

It's part of my JOB! (But you don't know about "jobs" do you??? No... you...do...not!!

Otherwise I don't care.. and neither does anyone else...

And.... keep paying attention here... I have NO idea what Jeff's dad is doing, nor does he have a clue about me and what my job is....

You keep barking up some fictitious tree... Let it go, bucko...

The point IS... you keep posting and no one cares what you have to say about anything!!! So you shouldn't bother.



Anne
Those links are working right.
The first one is about a school teaching Transgenderism, Kindergarten to 5th grade.
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08b/diversity_lexing ton/index.html

The second one is about a sex change clinic operating at Boston Children's Hospital on children as young as 6 years old.
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen/08b/spack/foxnews_05 2108.html

Though it would stir you up a bit.

Anne
The way Wobbie keeps inventing fantasy lives for himself, he must be a pathetic thing in real life.

Probably living in some mental institution.
He does not seem to know anything about real life.

MyOpine: Those links have been moved..

I accessed the site, but I'm not sure what specific story you're referring to...

No "Robert"... again you're mistaken.

I really don't care... I just watch and monitor and report....

But I don't care...

And NO ONE ELSE CARES!


"Robert" You're "name calling!" Tsk Tsk

Calling MyOpine a "loser" and the right wing "losers." Shame on you!!

And AGAIN, NO ONE CARES!!!!

NO ONE CARES!!!!

NO ONE CARES!!!!

NO ONE CARES!!!!

NO ONE CARES!!!!

NO ONE CARES!!!!

NO ONE CARES!!!!

Got it NOW???? NO ONE CARES!!!!

"Robert" Exactly what part of

NO ONE CARES

do you NOT understand?????

Believe me... NOT ONE POSTER give a rat's butt what you have to say about ANYTHING... and NOT ONE POSTER cares a wit about your "supposed" schedule....




Wobbie
You are right about the Right calling names.
We often call you a liar.

I still have room on my list if you want to add more fantasy to your resume.

The way you keep fantasizing various lives for yourself, you must be a very pathetic thing without a real life.

Anne

Ranger29, "Robert": You seem to think

that someone must CARE!

Well, NO ONE CARES what you're "supposed" schedule is or was or will be, or what you have to say about ANY TOPIC, for that matter!




Artemis' stammers: "I look into several

blogs, and nowhere have I seen women called b--ches, wh--es, and in this case, c--nts, fu--wads, all names I have personally been called or seen other women called on TH"

Yup! Don't doubt that for a second. The part you left out, however, is that all those names were USES BY LIBERALS...



slacker whines: "Your statistics only

show that journalists are smarter than....."

Apparently NOT, slicker kid... Seems Marxist Obama's "journalists" are having a temper tantrum... just like Marxist Obama and his followers.....

"Obama Aides "Feel Resentful" Towards Pentagon ..."

(Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa...)

"Sen. Barack Obama's campaign staff and the Pentagon are putting forth different versions of what happened before Obama cancelled a planned Friday morning visit to the Ramstein air base in Germany.

"The Obama campaign has suggested the Pentagon interfered with its decision to visit U.S. troops at the Ramstein and Landstuhl U.S. military bases in Germany -- something the Pentagon denied Friday."
The Pentagon has fired back at Obama's accusations, saying:

"We made it clear to him that campaign staff and press would not be permitted to accompany him," Morrell said of Obama. "We relayed those ground rules. They made a choice based upon the information we relayed to them. It was their choice. We had nothing to do with it."

"Now, apparently, Obama's team is upset with the Pentagon for setting the record straight ..."

(Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa...)

ModMark
1st off; What makes you think you know anything about women?

When a "News source" abandons objectivity what remains?

Partisan Political Propaganda remains.
A few readers of other political persuasion will remain out of curiosity but most will go to other news sources to get the entire News.

The NYT seems to downsize on a regular schedule.
The politically biased fools are trashing their own credibility and livelihood both!

ModMark
"As a journalist, who would you want to cover. Obama, young and energetic or McCain who seems to be asleep at the podium."

I was referring to the monetary donations earlier, not the coverage.

AZPhil
Your statistics only show that journalists are smarter than the idiots who contribute to McCain or other right wing nut causes. That's not bias, just intelligence. Something most people on TH (other that me and a few others) don't exhibit.

Ret. Geek: Exactly right!

In fact, as I read through many of these posts (except for psycho sophie which (not whom!) I do my best to ignore, it's like watching spoiled kids.. on the playground, shouting stupid, immature things like... "Oh yeah! Well, my dad can beat up your dad....!!!"

Then you can almost see them stomping off and throwing a big temper tantrum..

At this point, however, there is NO HOPE! If they haven't grown up by now...... NO HOPE!

The "Silence Rush Limbaugh Bill"
Anyone familiar with Communist false names would know exactly what to expect from;
"The Fairness Doctrine"
The name alone labels all Communists "LIAR"!
http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/articles/2008/20080 610195242.aspx

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
MSM is steadily LOOSING audience in an expanding market where they need to GAIN audience just to break even.
For decades, MSM has been censoring out anything a Conservative would consider good news and even manufacturing good news to stroke Democrats.
Only some Democrats fail to notice something missing from MSM News.
People who go looking for the missing News quickly find it and seldom return to MSM for propaganda.
MSM keeps downsizing.
Anyone wonder what Shareholders think about this?

How much is it practical to downsize before you close the doors?

Anne et al

Anne quoted Dr. Rossiter: "..."Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave..."

Anne, Dr Rossiter is exactly right on!

I have never in my lifetime seen adults wso trapped in limbo neither children or adults.

I think they want so desperately participate in adult conversations they just speak inane and and useless comments - I went through that when my daughters were pre-teen. Fortunately they grew up and became thinking useful citizens.

It most be depressing if Liberals ever have fleeting moments where they actually see themselves as they are.

I actually pity some of them.


No Bias
Well, the ratio is ALMOST 1:1.


Putting Money Where Mouths Are: Media Donations Favor Dems 100-1
By WILLIAM TATE | Posted Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:20 PM PT

The New York Times' refusal to publish John McCain's rebuttal to Barack Obama's Iraq op-ed may be the most glaring example of liberal media bias this journalist has ever seen. But true proof of widespread media bias requires one to follow an old journalism maxim: Follow the money.

Even the Associated Press — no bastion of conservatism — has considered, at least superficially, the media's favoritism for Barack Obama. It's time to revisit media bias.

True to form, journalists are defending their bias by saying that one candidate, Obama, is more newsworthy than the other. In other words, there is no media bias. It is we, the hoi polloi, who reveal our bias by questioning the neutrality of these learned professionals in their ivory-towered newsrooms.

An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .

Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.

Searches for other newsroom categories (reporters, correspondents, news editors, anchors, newspaper editors and publishers) produces 311 donors to Democrats to 30 donors to Republicans, a ratio of just over 10-to-1. In terms of money, $279,266 went to Dems, $20,709 to Republicans, a 14-to-1 ratio.


MyOpine: Excellent links and information

But you waste you time on sophie the bimbo?

Actually, I believe that Dr. Rossiter had a special chapter set aside for sophie and freaky freddy...

Oh, and btw, will SOMEBODY PA-LEASE get freaky freddy a flea collar??? Perhaps freaky freddy is so cranky because the fleas are bothering him.

disaster_artemis
"nowhere have I seen women called b--ches, wh--es, and in this case, c--nts, fu--wads"

Or listen to Air America...

Artemis
"I look into several blogs, and nowhere have I seen women called b--ches, wh--es, and in this case, c--nts, fu--wads, all names I have personally been called or seen other women called on TH. "

Go to what they still call "record stores" and stroll down till you see the word "Rap".

Georgetwin
I think this conclusion from a liberal "Conservatives hate women" is pretty funny, given the following:

Did William Kennedy Smith love that girl he raped in Florida?

Did his uncle love Mary Jo Kopechne?

Did the 42nd president love What's-her-Name Lewinsky, or Juanita Broddrick or Paula Jones, or Gennifer Flowers?

Did Gary Condit love Chandra Levy?

Of course Barney Frank and Gerry Studds never go near them.

I think a good idea would be for John Edwards to run for pres with Jesse Jackson as his running mate. Their theme song could be "Billie Jean" by Michael Jackson...you know - "the kid is not my son"

Way too funny...

Would any Liberals care to comment on

Liberal bias in the media?

I made four posts without any comment from me.

All four posts were in the words of media members who are all admiitedly Liberal.

The response has been intellectually dishonest and childish name calling.

This is what I have come to expect of 98% of the Liberals who post here.

There are a few (none on this thread so far) who debate facts and opinion without resorting to childishness. Even though I believe they are mostly wrong I respect them, whis is more than I can say about the others.

Jmind
Ironic that you specifically mention Couric when talking about bias...

Perhaps you missed the favor CBS did for McCain?


Artemis' Arrow
Your #198 is what we call "Verbal Masturbation".

I suppose your conjecture made you "FEEL GOOD" but that is the limit of it's value.

As to conjecture?
I could say you are a Martian Tooth Fairy and it would be just as true as your pathetic conjecture.

These liberal-idiots obviously don't

realize it, but no "EMOTIONALLY HEALTHY" person would go to any site and do the abhorrent name calling and insulting that they do....

They're NO DIFFERENT from the sad, pathetic little bullies on the 3rd grade play ground.

And what's worse, they come to a CONSERVATIVE site and spit their hate and anger, not to mention their ignorance and demonstrate their limited intellectual capacity for all to see.

The little twerp, Artemis' Arrow, referred to the TH "thread stapo" when in fact, the liberal gastapo immediately pulls down any post that isn't far left. (NO freedom of speech on the left!)

They come to TH and constantly work to "pick a fight" with anyone who disagrees with you, and THEY ALWAYS LOSE... because they NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY"RE TALKING ABOUT, and they're ALWAYS UNINFORMED.. or just stunningly stupid!


Not only are they all completely delusional (a fixed false belief that is resistant to reason or confrontation with actual fact) each on is exactly what Dr. Lyle Rossiter is talking about when he says that liberals are ".... strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded..."

Dr. Rossiter, in his book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness" says "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."

THAT is each and every liberal, on ALL ACCOUNTS!!!!


Sophie of a thousand names, (Communist)
You want to play that crap with me?
YOU HAVE THE GAUL TO MENTION A FEW REPUBLICAN GAYS?
http://www.americansfortruth.com/news/does-nancy-pelosi-con done-manboy-sex-if-the-man-is-a-democrat.html

NAMBLA IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
That is why you Democrats HATE the Boy Scouts.
Boy Scouts refuse to let NAMBLA provide Scout Masters.

Democrats are also into Child Pornography;
http://www.urbanconservative.com/2007/02/24/what-does-the-a clu-nambla-and-child-porn-have-in-common/

Democrats refuse to condemn NAMBLA, ACLU and Child Porn.
http://www.santorumblog.com/index.php/2006/10/06/demand-tha t-democrats-condemn-the-aclu-and-nambla/

http://americansfortruth.com/issues/the-agenda-glbtq-activi st-groups/national-glbtq-activist-groups/nambla/

DEMOCRATS INVADE OUR SCHOOLS WITH GAY PORNOGRAPHY!
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/info/kbase/horror_storie s.html

georgeTwerp says:
"Like I said, Internet Anonymity makes even the most Abject Cowards grow a set. "


And Twerp would know!

Sophie re: retired geek and MyOpine
Back when the internet first became available to everyone for use in their own homes, someone explained to me (I hadn't used it yet) that it was like a "Fibber McGee closet" -- that it held tons and tons of garbage and well as useful information, and that if you were going to take it seriously you had to be very cautious.

It has always seemed to me that no one ever gave Retired or My Opine this useful advice -- I once looked up some of the sites they linked as "proof" and they were a definite part of the flotsam that rises to the top of popular myth and magical thinking.

I could find links, if I had nothing better to do, that "prove" all conservatives to be gay, straight, religious, anti-religious, smart, stupid, white, black, male, female.


You wrote, "The way to tell the difference between Opine & Geek is that Opine's OCD with communism often is strangely linked to pedophilia....Geek's OCD with communism is linked to atheism...They've each put their own little personal spin on their compulsive obssession."

Good catch, Sophie, but I think there is medication available for that.

Well, got to go, hang in. I've had my fun for today, have to get back to real life.


Amigos
I'm Gone!

See some of you later in The Bat Cave!

Cleverness of Me
" I just think that when it comes to honoring women as women, conservatives are more respectful."

Are you serious? Have you even been reading this thread?

I look into several blogs, and nowhere have I seen women called b--ches, wh--es, and in this case, c--nts, fu--wads, all names I have personally been called or seen other women called on TH. My most liberal, leftie friends would not dream of calling women these names either in their private lives or on the net.


JMind
Read both pieces. You will see I am right. Obama packed his piece with specifics on what he would do as President.

McCain wrote a whiney piece repeating the same old cr@p we have heard 1,000 times saying he disagrees with Obama but nothing new about what he would do if elected.

Proves McCain has no plan.

Obama does have a plan to win in Iraq and then in Afghanistan.

Voting for Obama is the clear right choice for hard nosed practical down to earth conservative democrats like me.

It is also the right choice for wise independents and the few republicans with a brain.

Sophie of a thousand names, (Communist)
RE:#185

When your mind wanders off verbally masturbating while you conjectur silly fantasy like that it is very pathetic.

Only YOU Communists fantasize about being able to read the minds of all Conservatives.
BUT then everyone knows you need to be insane to believe in Communism.
You don't need to advertise your pathetic insanity.

Liberals in their own Words part 4
“I thought he [former CBS News correspondent Bernard Goldberg] made some very good points. There is just no question that I, among others, have a liberal bias. I mean, I’m consistently liberal in my opinions. And I think some of the, I think Dan [Rather] is transparently liberal. Now, he may not like to hear me say that. I always agree wit