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Tuesday, March 18, 2008
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Wright Connection Fatally Undermines Obama's Central Theme
by David Limbaugh
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The racist, anti-American rantings of Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's spiritual mentor and pastor of the church Obama attended for 20 years, raise many red flags about Obama's supposedly best selling point: his unique capability for healing societal divisions.

Considering our deep-seated societal disagreements over cultural and political issues, promises by politicians to end societal divisiveness are dubious enough on their face. But when the promisor's personal history contradicts his promises, even further scrutiny is required.

It's difficult to gauge Obama's genuineness in standing on this kind of platform because he has such a short political history to evaluate. Stories have been written, pointing to his extreme liberalism and scant record of reaching across the aisle, that cast serious doubt on his unifying claims. Until now, his lofty speeches have obscured these inconsistencies.

But with reports of his pastor saying "blacks should not sing 'God bless America, but G-- d--- America," and, concerning the 9/11 attacks, America's "chickens are coming home to roost," the burden of proof has now shifted to Obama. He must demonstrate not only that his claims to offer healing are sincere but also that he does not actually share his pastor's and, manifestly, his congregation's deeply disturbing views on race and America.

What can Obama say to meet this burden of proof?

Before this story heated up beyond the mainstream media's ability to suppress it, Obama casually dismissed the pastor's tirades merely as "controversial" remarks -- as if they had some legitimacy and were not outright indefensible but in any event should not be taken too seriously. Now he appears to be saying he was unaware of the offensive statements. But if Obama's deepest passion in life is to heal, wouldn't it follow that he would make it his business to know -- taking the willing suspension of disbelief here to new heights -- what driving passions stir his pastor?

We must recognize the double standard that liberals typically apply to immunize themselves from accountability for bigotry. When the remotest connection can be inferred between a conservative and a bigoted supporter, there is always hell to pay. No excuses are permitted. Guilt attaches -- not even by so much as true association but by passive receipt of an endorsement from anyone the left believes to have bigoted views.

Liberals, on the other hand, can be overtly racist toward conservative blacks like Condoleezza Rice and Clarence Thomas and earn accolades rather than condemnation. And in Obama's case, we have more than passive receipt of an endorsement. We have more than guilt by casual association.

Obama chose this pastor and picked this church and has been attending for two decades, presumably because he embraced its message and its approach. His wife's curious statements about America, such as when she told the New Yorker that our country is "downright mean," provide further grounds for our skepticism. It will not do for Obama to claim he was unaware of Wright's racism and anti-Americanism.

A brief review of the Wright videos shows that his race-driven spirit was one of the animating forces in that church. We didn't see congregants spilling toward the exits in protest but instead gesturing in participatory approval. It stretches credulity to deny that such vitriol was central to Wright's worldview or to suggest that Obama was unaware that it was. It is thus silly to quibble over the irrelevant distraction of whether Obama happened to be in attendance at this or that particular hate exhibition.

Viewing all this in a light most favorable to Obama, if he chose this church for political expedience rather than spiritual nourishment, he must tell us what principles he wouldn't compromise in furtherance of his ambitions. If he somehow clears that hurdle, he must next explain how he can possibly deliver on his promises to unite us publicly en route to a post-racial and post-partisan society, when he's obviously willing privately to benefit from the energy of divisiveness and racism. This takes the ends-justifies-the-means approach to new extremes.

Democrats, including Clinton supporters, are quick to defend Obama because they realize he is still their likely nominee and they can't afford this issue to have legs into the general election campaign. They insist we should look at "the issues" rather than this side story. Besides, Obama has denounced the pastor's remarks.

The denunciation is hollow, given Obama's long voluntary history with this pastor. And the Democrats' attitude toward character has always been specious. They want it to be an issue only when they are claiming Republicans lack character -- as with the falsely alleged lies of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld.

We all know that one's character cannot be separated from his actions, as the latter springs from the former. Voters must satisfy themselves about a candidate's character since his character will have an impact on their lives.

Instead of giving us answers to supplement our negligible knowledge of his character and history, Obama has given us only more questions -- many alarming questions.

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David Limbaugh, brother of radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, is an expert in law and politics and author of Bankrupt: The Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of Today's Democratic Party.
 
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Absolutely right, David
Obama's credibility is indeed severly tainted by his long term association with the Rev. Wright. He can't be allowed to simply dismiss it with his simple disavowing of knowing Wrights' beliefs and attitudes towards America.

Of course the Democrats are trying desperately to sweep this all under the rug. After all THEY aren't ever supposed to be held accountable for what they say or do and this episode is not going away as quickly as they'd like for it to.

So expect the efforts to change the subject to get more and more desperate as time goes on and the Reverend Wright matter doesn't just go away.

Whose Racism is on Trial?
Obama has met his own past, and it threatens to topple his candidacy. There is a real problem coming down the track straight at the American people. When Obama's candidacy crumbles, African-Americans will claim that it was racism that toppled him. It is important that it be Democrats that cause his downfall. If the Republicans are blamed for the disintegration of the Obama campaign, it will be Republican racism that will be blamed.

We are facing a racial problem of immense proportions. For that reason, it is imperative that this issue die with the primary season. If Obama is nominated, the Republicans will harvest the racist crop of Obama's making.

The double standard
What I find amazing is how the media is treating this. Fox leads almost every half-hour break with this story while the other networks virtually ignore it. If you look at the headlines on the other media web sites they list this as a minor sub-story while CBS doesn’t mention it all. And where they do discuss it all they give is a positive account of O-Vomit’s response. They do not question how he could have attended this church for 20 years and not heard these things, nor do they question how GD America can be taken out of context.

What is truly amazing is that if this was a case of a Republican candidate attending meetings of a group like the Aryan Brotherhood for 20 years they would be screaming to the high heavens. They would hound that candidate out of the race.

Antiamerican?
Actions speak volumes.
He won't wear the flag on his lapel,
he won't put hid hand over hid heart during
the national anthem.

What's that tell you?

Change He's not Telling
I thing he is a dangerous person. He is saying one thing and believing something else. He is saying change, but what change, he's not telling you. It would be a change I'm almost sure and not for America's good.

Obama and Robert KKK Byrd
The double standard is in the Senate for all to observe: Robert Byrd of West Virginia, former high poobah of the KKK. If he were a Republican he would have been gone years ago, but he's a Democrat and revered as a constitutional scholar and senate historian instead.

As to Obama, I bet he now wishes he had said he was a Muslim. It might have been easier to defend.

Looong campaign
Maybe a long campaign is not so bad after all. Look at what is coming out about "Mr. Change". What else may be on the horizon?
Thank GOD there is more than the MSN reporting out there.

MGersh writes: Whose Racism is on Trial?

"When Obama's candidacy crumbles, African-Americans will claim that it was racism that toppled him."

And they'll be absolutely correct!

Except the African-Americans won't take responsibility for the fact that it's THEIR OWN racism....

And, just a little bit of interesting information. It seems that Trinity's web site has been scrubbed.







Absolutely!
"It stretches credulity to deny that such vitriol was central to Wright's worldview or to suggest that Obama was unaware that it was. It is thus silly to quibble over the irrelevant distraction of whether Obama happened to be in attendance at this or that particular hate exhibition."

You are absolutely dead on right, David. We should all stop and think for a minute. The remarks that we have heard, distasteful as they are, are only a small sampling of what has been going on in this "church" for many years. If the "Reverend" Wright would talk like this with a tape recorder going, what sort of things has he been saying that we don’t know about and has never been uncovered? I shudder to think.

The word “pastor” from the original Greek means shepherd. A shepherd is one who leads and protects. If Obama has allowed Wright to lead him, he has undoubtedly followed and taken on some of not many of his instructions and teachings. This country should not be surprised at where this will take us or what it will do to our country should Obama become our president.

More important than Obama's religious
views are his plans to disarm America. This 52 second video gives me nightmares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

The REAL Barak, the REAL Hillary ??
If you want to discover both Barak Obama's and Hillary Clinton's deepest ideological roots, simply Google Search each of their names with those of SAUL ALINSKY and ANTONIO GRAMSCI -- and their infamous "March Through The Institutions" method of assuming control over one and all ("one" meaning you and "all" meaning everyone and everything else, as well).

Jim Guirard -- TrueSpeak.org

I invite you to
visit my blog. Latest parodies are on Obama.

Barack Obama
In his books, Barack Obama has told the story of the family into which he was born; about a father from Kenya whom he barely knew, who left when Barack was age 2, and about his white American mother from Kansas who along with his father was a college student at the University of Hawaii in Honolulu. By age 6, young Barack was already living in Jakarta with his mother and his Indonesian step father before moving back to Hawaii at age 10, to be raised by his maternal grandparents when his mother and her second husband divorced. His "birthright," says Senator Obama, was that he was given love, a good education, and hope.
Over the years Barack Obama had bonding experiences with white and black relatives and with Asian family members amidst an understandable struggle to find his own identity. The opportunity that Hawaii offered him to experience a variety of cultures in a climate of mutual respect became an integral part of his world view and is the basis for the values that he holds most dear.
Barack's Mother was an agnostic or an atheist and he was raised in a non religious atmosphere by his mother and grandparents. Barack Obama has said that Pastor Wright "brought him to Jesus" and he was always very grateful to him for that. Wright also married Barack and Michelle. It’s not hard to understand how Barack Obama who grew up without a father may have overlooked some of Jeremiah Wright's short comings much like one does with the flaws of a member of one’s own family. But Barack Obama has repudiated Wright's comments and clearly loves America. Just read the last page of his book "The audacity of Hope" published in 2006. Remember, Barack Obama is the candidate for president, not Jeremiah Wright.

Let the Swiftboating of Obama Begin...
If Sen. Barack Obama got sqeamish and indignant about the criticims of fellow Democrat Sen. Hillary Clinton and former Prez Bill Clinton just wait and see what the Repubs/Cons and the RNC SLIME MACHINE have in store for him...in the words of an ole saying:

HE AINT SEEN NOTHING YET..!!!

Obama's Theme and Hillary's Game
While Barack Obama has spoken about issues other than race, his central theme regarding race is that his candidacy transcends race. He has never presented himself as a Jesse Jackson or a Malcolm X. He has been careful not to run as "the black candidate". But the Clintons and their surrogates have not ceased pointing fingers at Obama and screaming "But he's black! He's black!". Their goal has been to identify Obama as "the black candidate". Until the Jeremiah Wright tape, the Clintonian tar-brush was largely ineffective and in some cases hurt Hillary. This time they have succeeded, and the Wright film clip that the media have obligingly played hundreds of times has quite possibly destroyed Obama's candidacy.

Jeremiah Wright was the pastor of Trinity Baptist Church for, what, forty years? But his name is not a household word in Chicago. Until the past two weeks I do not recall ever seeing him, or his church, mentioned in the Chicago Tribune, which I read every day. Public outrage over Reverend Wright's words (and, I suspect, his black-shoutin'-church preaching style) have offended Americans, who meanwhile have neglected to ask: who provided these film clips to the media, and why? It seems to me that all of you who are shocked, shocked that a black preacher preaches as he does, have played directly into Hillary's game.

refatsew
RElevant to your post, another thought occurs to me when I ask myself why a well-educated and sophisticated black man would choose a church like Trinity and a pastor like Wright. Somewhere I read Obama's statement that during his adolescence in Hawaii "I tried to invent myself as a black man in America". All kids have to invent their adult identity; that's what adolescence is for. And I am reminded of when I taught in a predominantly white suburb of Washington DC from 1970-1980. Black kids in the school were usually upper-middle class kids whose parents had graduate degrees, excellent jobs, lovely homes, and definitely an upper-middle-class lifestyle. And yet the kids, I think mostly the boys, often went through a kind of identity crisis in their teens when they seemed to figure that being a black male meant that had to skip school, talk jive, hang out on street corners, wear loose clothing, and be ba-aa-ad. You can well imagine the effect of this on their Smith- and Columbia-educated parents, who quickly went ballistic. At some level, Obama may have felt that attending such a church was necessary for the identity he had nurtured on his own. I would wonder also whether his wife, who grew up on the South Side, had some previous history, perhaps family, with this church.

Left Angle
You're so (w)right! I mean this is all made up by evil white old men (which is what republicans are after all)! It's a vast right-wing conspiracy! Wright is actually a deeply-covert conservative operative whose mission to bring down a black democratic candidate has finally come to fruition!

Video by Hillary Supporter
Tom wrote:
"More important than Obama's religious
views are his plans to disarm America. This 52 second video gives me nightmares:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs"


Well, I followed the links to the profile of the YouTube video poster, and to my surprise, that poster turns out to be a Shillary (i.e., a shill for Hillary)! Even worse, he/she is also hawking Celine Dion recordings. That's two strikes . . .

lilly
So, are you saying that the film clips are not bona fide? Did Hillary concoct the idea and hire a film company to stage the whole thing?

If this is just an attempt to 'swift-boat' Obama, as was suggested in this thread, where is the outrage that Wright has been misquoted or lies have been fabricated out of whole cloth?

In the end, the Swift-boat campaign was just an attempt to get the truth out to the public. I suspect that the Wright videos are of a similar nature. Either provide the proof they are, somehow, created and edited for effect, or let the candidate deal with the truth of his associations.

finally Lilly's racism rears it's head..
..as usual

"(and, I suspect, his black-shoutin'-church preaching style)"

Since you seem interested in a psychoanalytic approach this morning, perhaps this statement reflects something about you. I for one am not shocked by his preaching style or that he preaches, as you put it, the way he preaches. I am dismayed by what he says. If he is being caricatured, then his congregation or Obama's supporters should be releasing video clips that show us the "real" Rev. Wright-- unless, of course, we have in fact already seen him.



Wobbie
How does your chronic Bush Derangement Syndrome handle the fact that Bush endorses McShamnesty while the base has walked away from him?

Do you just drink more to cover it or just drop more 'ludes?

Do you have to buy two bottles for you and your alter ego HalD?


New Parody
My Blog. Don't you think Obama knows? (based on Sweet Home Chicago)

Actually those film clips were
all ove U-Tube for months until recently. They were put on there by members of the church who werre PROUD of them until they turned around and bit O-Vomit on the *ss.

Left Angle
Thanks for the schadenfreude with that whine about swiftboating the Empty-Suit.

I wonder how a white GOP candidate would fare if it was revealed that he sat, say, in the Church of Odin for twenty years as the "preacher" reviled blacks, met with neo-nazis, and was connected with a church that espouses a "separtist" agenda?


Hey Libs
We're STILL waiting on a shining example of O-Vomit's EXECUTIVE leadership. And it ain't voting "present" 130 times, it ain't running a campaign (they do it high schools, etc), it ain't saying "vote for me for a change."

We'll be waiting.

finding a spiritual mentor as an adult
I left the church in my youth and came to God as an adult. I "shopped around" for a church and a congregation that "spoke to me." I occasionally have differences of opinion with my rectors, especially in terms of politics (Episcopals do run the gamut); some are minor, others I would call major. However, I could never follow and support a pastor, congregation or church whose preachings and politics were anathema to me.

And while I may have a different political stance than my rectors, I can respect, in some ways, their positions-- I can see that they have some legitimacy. This is why Obabma's association with Wright troubles me-- and not because it's a "black church" as some allege against those who find Wright disturbing. I could not accept a politician's attempts at justification, for example, if he attended the Westboro Baptist Church (Kansas) either.

("Well, I wasn't actually there when they picketed that soldier's funeral with anti-gay slogans..."just wouldn't hold water).

GradGirl
No you are wrong.

Lilly's racism reared it very disgusting head when she called Dr. Sowell an "Uncle Tom".

I for one, have not forgotten.

Mrs Paddy
Left a comment. You are very talented.

BTW ALL, swing by The Anti-Liberal Zone where we're staking the lib-vampires before they can suck the tax money from us! haha.

Click on my name or bookmark:

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/

listed all of Hitlery's sins (since everyonesfacts thinks I'm a Hildabeast fan) and doubled-tapped the Liberal Lawyer's Party.

GunnyG
Thanks for visiting my blog! Spew alert??!! Really? THANKS. :-)

YLG
Ain't it funny how liberals are so racist?
From Farrakhan to Al "Kill the Jews" Sharpton to Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson to Hitlery's f-ing k*kes to KKK Byrd and 150 YEARS of Dhimmicratic racism!

Good thing they have the lame stream media in their pocket or they'd be screwed!

Robert
Are you not supposed to be somewhere in the northern part of the Mediterranean, enjoying your "Wonder Woman" and twins, relaxing for the most part?

Can't resist the call of Townhall, can you?

I did want to take the time to thank you for my "F". It's nice of you to think I'm fabulous.

Let us know when you get "ARRAIGNED", ok?

David
No real "Conservative", would do, what you are attempting to do.You and everyone in the conservative press,is assigning "CHARGES" a defendant(Mr. Obama),whom the court KNOWS, had no "HAND" in the CRIME.That makes you a "POLITICAL PROSTITUTE".SORRY...

GunnyG
No kidding!!!!

My O-Vomit supporting neighbor insists this Wright thing is a tempest in a teapot. When I asked her how she would feel if she found out my priest was a KKK supporter, and my spiritual advisor, she said she would never speak to me again. When I asked her the difference between that, and what O-Vomit did, she said it was different because he is black. When I told her I was Hispanic, her jaw hit the floor.

His supporters refuse to listen to pesky facts, don't they?

YLG et al:
Good morning. I see RJS has already been here with his usual inanity, insanity, and idiocy.

Lumberjack7392
Good morning!

Yes, he did a drive-by....can't seem to stay away.

I thought he called Mr. Limbaugh "Little Limbaugh", not "Little Rush". Is he confused again?

YLG
oh yes, you are right...I meant to imply once AGAIN...

She said the same ugly things about Larry Elder for daring to think for himself while being black!

killer
no one is stopping you from voting for the anti-american, racist Obambi. If you hate your country, and want that change (to socialism), go for it killer!

GradGirl
Too right!

I remember that little dung pile she left...amazing that she professes to be so educated and forward-thinking. Sometimes I come close to pitying her.

Close....

;-)

Rino's
I wonder which rino will come out and blame this whole episode on conservatives? Ant bets?

YLG et al:
Lumberjack7392
Good morning!

Yes, he did a drive-by....can't seem to stay away.

I thought he called Mr. Limbaugh "Little Limbaugh", not "Little Rush". Is he confused again?

Stil calling other people names, while criticizing those who return the favor.

Robert
Sorry!

Glad to hear you are back.

We did miss the entertainment.

SSGT
The America you fought for, is NO LONGER.SORRY!!!

YLG writes:
Robert
Sorry!

Glad to hear you are back.

We did miss the entertainment

RJS is about as entertaining as rotator cuff repair.

Good morning all
I wonder where wobbie is too YLG.

The vacation must not be going so well for wobbie. Maybe wonder woman found a real wonder man in Greece and has blown off with him.


Poor wobbie. Well not really.

Wobbie
"Wonder Woman and I are back for a time to a more "conventional" relationship...at least most of the time."

Soooooo, you drain the air out of her and put her back in the box after you're done?

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

killer
only in your little mind, and world. My country is strong as ever, and my rights will not be taken away from me by some communist in hiding. Wake up, killer, your slumber will be your demise!

Excellent Article - Part 1
I don't care who published those comments by Wright. I thank God they were published.

Rev. Wright is not only Obama's Pastor of 20 years. But has been self-proclaimed by Obama himself, that Wright is his mentor, advisor and considers him like an uncle.

Surely Obama and his wife carry the exact same sentiments as Wright. Certainly Michelle meant it when she said she's never been proud of this country. Certainly we now understand why Obama doesn't wear a flag lapel, or cover his heart during the national anthem.

Obama is for change - but he hasn't spelled out what that change entails.

Certainly he will be for slavery reparations, giving away billions of dollars of our tax money.

Perhaps he will level the playing field. In fact, armed with the same racisim as Wright, we could expect him to tax whites only and give all blacks a free ride - hey, it's just affirmative actions next step!

Certainly he will destroy our military and get in bed with the Palestinians, Iran, Huga Chavez and apologise for defending Israel.

Perhaps he will grant amnesty to every black man in prison today. I mean, what black man can get a fair trial in a white USA.

Excellent Article - Part 2
Point is, Rev. Wright's messages demonstrate just how skewed, just how off Obama's perception of America is. Obama placed Wright on his advisory committee. It was not until America heard Wright spew anti-American, racist comments that Obama came to the realization that perhaps this isn't a good thing - perhaps people think differently than I do.

Truth is, if Obama is the unity guy he purports he is, he would have left this church, this pastor and his friendship 19 years ago.

Actions once again, speak louder than words. Obama has no business sitting in a U.S. Senate seat. And this is who the Democrats are offering the people of America.

That speaks volumes!

Certainly he will bow his knee to the U.N. as the ultimate authority over the U.S.

Pray for America

Lumberjack, GunnyG
Lumberjack: Hmmmm...you have a point. I was thinking "root canal", but yours is better. Oy!

GunnyG: I swear, you are going to owe me stock in Folgers by the time you get back...PUT A "SPEW ALERT" NEXT TIME!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

;-)

YLG
Sorry.

I wonder of Wobbie has to use tractor tires patches for his "doll" after he climbs aboard for a "tour" up to his "night spot?"

Geez, I get nauseated just thinking of it.

GunnyG
But the real question is - Does he practice proper personal hygiene before putting her back in the plastic bag she came out of.





To change the subject -

For Hal D - last night I was so bored I clicked on the Huff n Puff. Then in agaisnt my better judgment I searched on Hal D's name and came across his Bio.

Know what - With all of his "supposed" education the dumb focker has a nasty grammar error in his own bio.

BTW - the Huff n Puff's layout was so bad I didn't even stay for more than two or three minutes. Like I said, against my better judgement I went there.


GunnyG
From spewing to dry heaves....

IS NOTHING SACRED ANYMORE??!!

;-)

Bman III
That is why Brian and I both think that Wobbie is HalD and it's ALL made up.

I'm a member of military.com and cannot find a Hal Donohue in the AF records.

I found two uncles from KOREA timeframe and my own starting in 79, but no HalD who supposedly retired in the 80's.

Pure dog squeeze from another libstain.

Ok Gunny....
You are going to have to buy everyone a new keyboard....

Have you forgotten about the spew alerts???



All
I'm going in early and will by flying out to Spain on vacation. Unlike Wobbie aka HalD and his blow-up doll, I'll actually be posting pics as possible.

Keep beating down these libs.

Bman III, you've got the conn!

BmanIII writes:
To change the subject -

For Hal D - last night I was so bored I clicked on the Huff n Puff. Then in agaisnt my better judgment I searched on Hal D's name and came across his Bio.

Know what - With all of his "supposed" education the dumb focker has a nasty grammar error in his own bio.

BTW - the Huff n Puff's layout was so bad I didn't even stay for more than two or three minutes. Like I said, against my better judgement I went there.

BMan: Both Hal Doofus and RJS are grammatically and spelling challenged, when it comes to their writing anything that does not require the use of Control C and Control V.

What do folks really feel--inside?
In Obama's speech today, Obama came real close to admitting a truth that no other politician has dared to admit: Millions of blacks and whites still hate each other's guts. Yes, he admitted that in the black community, the bitterness and fury of a Wright is not unique. Wright finds a sympathetic audience among blacks who love seeing someone of their own sticking it to "Whitey."

And the same is true on the White side. I've heard even seemingly intelligent, educated, "sophisticated" people, when they get upset or angry, blurt out a piece of racist or anti-Semitic nonsense. It's often shocking what gets out when we lose our temper.

Human beings of all races have a lot of ugliness inside us just itching to get out. Perhaps xenophobia is hardwired into us from thousands of years of tribal warfare. That's why we have modern civilization and religion now--to keep he ugliness bottled up where it can't hurt people.

I give Obama a lot of credit for being this candid about the race problem. He admitted more about its reality than any other national politician I can remember. Go read his speech and see if you agree.

GunnyG
Funny you should mention military.com.

My stepfather retired in 1963 from the Navy.
He IS listed. Even has his current city listed.

So is his brother who was killed in Korea.


But no Hal - wonder why?? Me thinks he may be Bob Beckel's twin that appears on Fox News sometimes...

liberals
Liberals are abject cowards and they prove it here daily

GunnyG
Have a nice vacation dude.

It is WELL DESERVED...

Just stay away from Smellrose Place.


SEMPER FI

BmanIII
hope you showered and disinfected well after you came out of the Huff Puff.
LOL

GunnyG
enjoy your vacation. Look forward to the pics.
BmanIII has the conn? Oh boy, we're in trouble now!!! :-)

RJS writes:
go for some chow at the flight shop...but intereresting point.

As long as the chow is liberaally laced with cyanide, everything will be good.

SteveL
Call me closed minded or whatever you like, but I will pass on reading Obama’s speech just as I passed on watching it.

While there is some truth to your comments there will always be some people who hate each other simply based on the of color of their skin.

However, a preacher should be “preaching” other things. Not that whitey has done them wrong. Not that the gov’t has done them wrong.

It hasn’t been too long that I, my wife and stepson, were at a church in the upstate where we were the only three white people there. And you know what? We felt just as comfortable there as anywhere. Everyone treated us just as good as we could have been treated at a “white only” church. And this is in the south (Lilly).

But to continue to have a “mentor” for 20 years it makes me wonder about Obama. I think he, along with the entire congregation, shares this man’s (I do not want to call him a preacher) views. Even Oprah left this “church.”

And as to Obama’s candidacy; The only reason he is being “candid” is because he is reading a speech prepared for him. When you see him without his cue cards he is no more than an empty suit.

This church should lose their tax exempt status. As their “preacher” is no more than a hate monger when he should be “preaching” peace.

The church I spoke of – do you know what the preacher preaches there? I’ll give you one hint. It’s from a black book that begins with the letter “B.”

It is not from a Farrakan handbook for the mentally challenged.

SSGT
Yes I felt all dirty inside when I left the huff n puff.

But what was really funny was that some mentally challenged person blamed Bill O'Reilley for them having to "calm down" on their comments.

The lay out was not good either.

All in all, the experience was not enjoyable. But I should have known that before going to their site.

I think next time I will get a pecan picker and pick my eyes.




Lumberjack7392
writes: Tuesday, March, 18, 2008 12:04 PM
RJS writes:
go for some chow at the flight shop...but intereresting point.

As long as the chow is liberaally laced with cyanide, everything will be good.




It's the Walmart deli beside the helo landing pad.

They are serving Hot dogs today... Big hot dogs
hahahaha

BmanIII writes:
SSGT
Yes I felt all dirty inside when I left the huff n puff.

But what was really funny was that some mentally challenged person blamed Bill O'Reilley for them having to "calm down" on their comments.

The lay out was not good either.

All in all, the experience was not enjoyable. But I should have known that before going to their site.

I think next time I will get a pecan picker and pick my eyes.


I tried going to HuffPuke one time, and it was about as much fun as rotator cuff repair rehab.

Lumberjack7392
OUCH!!!!!

I went there when I first started here. The Doofus had me doopused into thinking he supported the troops. It took me about one para on his blog to see that I was duped. It was game on after that! Boy, I was depressed for about a month, letting that turd dupe me.

GunnyG-Ssgt-YLG-BManIII-Lumberjack7392
Barack Hussein Obama is running a Typical, Liberal, Campaign:

Talk to The Center.

Run to The Right.

GOVERN from THE LEFT!

I'll just bet Shrillary has someone hunting HIGH AND LOW for video of Barack Hussein Obama in the congregation when Reverend Wrong was spewing.

Wobbie The Coward keeps Wonder Woman inflated when he flies, just in case he needs a personal flotation device. He might fall in The Slurpee Machine.

Has anyone heard how Hal Drunkahue's Irish Physical Therapy Went? You know, Jamison Curls, Guinness Presses, etc.

SSGT writes:
Lumberjack7392
OUCH!!!!!

I went there when I first started here. The Doofus had me doopused into thinking he supported the troops. It took me about one para on his blog to see that I was duped. It was game on after that! Boy, I was depressed for about a month, letting that turd dupe me.

What's really weird about Hal Doofus is that he cites his articles on the HuffPuke as support for his posts here. Talk about dumb.

Georgetwin....
...Has anyone heard how Hal Drunkahue's Irish Physical Therapy Went? You know, Jamison Curls, Guinness Presses, etc.


You left out the bobbin' for "apples" (for lack of a better word)

bob to the left, bob to the right,
to the left,
to the right.

All done now.....

Lumberjack
Dumb and dumber is his favorite movie...

The movie was based on a true story between two best friends...


Apparently, no one at the Huff N Puff does any kind of reality check on their contributors...
They certainly do not have a spelling and grammar check.

BManIII
You forget, Hal Drunkahue is on HRPufnstufPost. They ONLY bob to THE LEFT!

I read Hal's column once, he could bore a statue.

Georgetwin
Hal posted a drive-by over at the Gaffney thread...incoherent ranting, so I assumed his St. Patrick's Day was really good.

killer
did you hear Obambi's speech? He loves this country. Not enough to put his hand on his heart during the national anthem, though.

LJ7392-BmanIII
Dumb and Dumber = Hal & Wobbie?
OR
Dumber and Dumbest = Hal & Wobbie?




YLG-Ssgt-Spew Possible
YLG
An Irishman was working at a brewery and fell in a vat of beer and drowned. The foreman went to his house and told his wife. She started crying and said, My Poor Hal, he never had a chance!

The foreman said, Hal had a chance, he got out twice to pee.

Ssgt
With a name like Killer, I bet he is one of those Gun Control Libs.

SSGT
Did you listen to Obambi's speech?

He reminds me of Halle Berry.

Remember she was always "mostly white."
Then when she finally won one of those Hollywood awards she got up on stage and said "being a black woman yadda yadda yadda".


Obama = ( )
Translation = empty "()" added for emphasis

Rino
First rino to agree with the libs is Deb Saunders.spouting her usual rino B.S.

Georgetwin....
Ok, you got me there....

It would take a Philadelphia lawyer to figure that one out.


Dumb and Dumber:

Hal & Wobbie
Wobbie and Hal

I say they take turns being the "lead guy." Just depends on what day it is.


re: Killer - you are probably right



Georgetwin
dumber & dumbest? why are isulting the dumb people of the world?

wobbie: poockie, why are they calling us dumb?

Doofus: dont' bother me now, I'm trying to put the new roll of tp on the reel.


bmanIII
no, just snippets from Rush. Thats all I need to listen too.

SSGT
Exactly.


Hillary not dead yet?
There was a growing rumble in recent months that Obama was getting a free pass by the press, that because it was the democrat primary his opponents were seriously handcuffed as far as what he could be challenged on, and at some point the democrat party was going to be very sorry this guy hadn't been vetted before being handed the nomination. Now it is probably too late for the party to turn back and the Republican party must be in a state of euphoria from all the cannon fodder being handed to them. Is it possible Hillary might breathe again?

Now we know where
Wobbie has been:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,338889,00.html

ricefarm
I would not count HRC out yet.

There is still a lot of Chinese money to be had out there.

She'll find something if there is something to be found.

Vic
Hey

How did you fare through the tornadoes last Saturday night?

Supposedly, 18 of them touched down....

BmanIII writes:
ricefarm
I would not count HRC out yet.

There is still a lot of Chinese money to be had out there.

She'll find something if there is something to be found.

She's like a vampire that keeps rising from the dead to suck more blood (money) out of her victims, in this case thecitizens of the US.

VIC
You failed miserably!!!!



WHY NO SPEW ALERT??????


And I thought wobbie was in my hometown the other day standing in front of the new tire store - waving at people as they rode by. With Michelin written on him.

Ricefarm
Well, that's the whole point of the exercise, isn't it, to relieve Hillary's respiratory troubles? I counted up that if Reverend Wright gave just one one-hour sermon per week for forty years that would add up to 2080 hours of preaching. Somebody sat through a Godalmighty lot of tape and edited out the bits that would be most politically damaging to Obama. We don't know who did that tedious job, and journalists that support the GOP and oppose any Democratic candidate would certainly be candidates for the honor, but Hillary's Opposition Research Staff does also come to mind as a possibility. A very good possibility.

Obama's whole intent has been to transcend race in his candidacy. Hillary's best bet to smash him has been to play the race card because she knows that the more she can get Obama to be seen as a black candidate, THE black candidate vs her blond self, this will hurt him and help her. She, Bill, and surrogates have been attemting for weeks to paint Obama with the tar brush. Early attempts not only failed but reflected badly on her. This time Hillary has hit pay dirt. So, yes, I imagine she is breathing just fine now.

But on the other front the GOP wants to destroy Obama to get him out of the way so they can then concentrate their guns on Hillary. Notice the great silence on FOX in that regard---while we see Jeremiah Wright every five minutes, we hear no anti-Hillary invective these days. Just wait until they get Obama out of the way. One thing at a time, that way you can better teach the public the lesson you want them to learn. First Obama, then Hillary: equal opportunity destruction. The GOP has NO intention of allowing the United States to be a two-party nation.

Mrs Paddy
If you read my post again you will nowhere see that I thought the film clips were fabricated (aren't you the homeschooling advocate? Shows.). I said that somebody, either working for Hillary or right-wing journalism, had to review at least 2080 hours of Wright's sermons to locate the bits that would be most polically damaging to Obama. Have you ever had occasion to review 2080 hours of tape? I have done 300, and I can tell you it's one tedious job. Whoever did this was highly motivated. The rest of my post weighed the pros and cons of whether the job was done by Hillary's Opposition Research or a journalism outfit like FOX. I then discussed motivations of each side.

I hope what you teach your homeschooled children isn't Reading Comprehension.

Vic
how could you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lilly
your really need to get out more. Seriously!!!

lilly
that was the best d*mn 2080 hours of viewing spent on pointing out a RACIST, american loathing pastor that supports the Palestinians efforts in eradicating the Jews. I see why you support him now!

who released videos?
lilly

From what I understand the videos of Reverend Wright's sermons were available from the Trinity Church website. I can't verify that because they have shut it down. (What are the chances that when it comes back there will be no mention of the good reverend?) As far as Obama's books, I chose to judge him by his actions. He claims to be a political uniter, but can only show one weak example of such. He sells himself as patriotic, but between his wife's statements to the contrary and his minister's anti-US statements that is suspect. He is running for President of the United States yet won't wear anything resembling a flag or put his hand over his heart when he is in public. He wants to unite us across racial lines yet for 20 years adopts as his spiritual guide a minister who spews hatred toward whites. I chose to judge him by his actions, not his words.

lily:
It seems to me that you are giving Obama a pass. If Hillary's or McCain's minister had made the same comments, you would be screaming that they are associated with racist bigots, and thus unfit to be POTUS.

BTW, the Democrats are the kngs of trying to turn the US into a one party state. Bipartisanship and compromise to them means do it or way, and surrender your principles.

ylg
whatsamatterwithyou girl. "we" did NOT miss roberta's rants

Is Barack confused?
Yesterday, Obama claimed to have no knowledge of Reverend Wright's hateful rhetoric. Today, in his speech he acknowledges that yes, he was aware of some of his statements and views in this vein and proceeds to make excuses for them. This after claiming to condemn them. This after holding Reverend Wright up as his spirtitual guide. Does this mean Barack Obama is confused, or just a liar?

Lilly
Shut up...

It is the DNC that has brought race into this campaign.

Your rantings are quite amusing though.

So what are we to gain from your comment?
That the DNC is a racist organization.

We all knew that anyway.

As for the GOP, why would we want to get rid of Obama? I, for one, am looking forward to a brokered convention. I think it will make good entertainment. Your party is in complete chaos.
(Thanks Rush - keep up the good work)

To watch the DNC implode because your party is a racist party will be just too much fun.

You should admit that your party is in disarray because there is a "Black man" and a "White Woman" that are the two front runners. But none of the party leaders really thought it would come to this did they? And you really don't know how to handle this do you?

But you do know the real reason your party is in disarray is because you have two candidates of which neither one is qualified to be POTUS.

I can't wait for Al Sharpton and his cronies to begin the demonstrations in Denver when the time comes. Chicago 1968 anyone??

Do you really think someone had to sit through 2080 hours of tape?

All I can say is that church should lose it's tax exempt status TODAY.

And I guess we can only pray that God has mercy on Wright's soul. He is going to need it. For I hear that the fires in hell can get pretty hot.





ricefarm writes:
Is Barack confused?
Yesterday, Obama claimed to have no knowledge of Reverend Wright's hateful rhetoric. Today, in his speech he acknowledges that yes, he was aware of some of his statements and views in this vein and proceeds to make excuses for them. This after claiming to condemn them. This after holding Reverend Wright up as his spirtitual guide. Does this mean Barack Obama is confused, or just a liar?

How about both, a confused liar?

BManIII
I never knew we had tornadoes Saturday. I sat out on the front porch most of the afternoon drinking beer and crown so I slept good.

Yeah, and we saw Wobbie has been flying in Texas and he mistook a passenger for his blowup doll.

SSGT
You have to consider that Hollywood, Kos, MSDNC, HRPufnStuf Glorify STUPID people on a DAILY/HOURLY basis. Adding 2 more is like putting another Deck Chair on a Cruise Liner.

Lilly you must have missed
the post earlier. Those vidios were all over UTube and posted by the church members who were PROUD of them. They removed them after they saw that O'Vomit was catching flack.

And Lilly, tell me you would be all for it if the Republican candidate was attending a White Aryan church for 20 years listening to a "preacher" spew hate against blacks and jews.

Lilly
First of all - you mention "at least 2080 hours of tape." Do you know something we don't. I do not think there is 2080 ours of tape going back 40 years. Unless there is a vault full of 8mm home movie tape laying around.

And that 300 hours of tape you reviewed? Was it Bush speeches? Tape of Spitzer and his escapades?

Tape of the republican candidates? Who paid you for these?

And your comment to Mrs Paddy re: homeschooling; Did you know that 40% of home schooled children in California do better on standardized tests than students who attend public indoctrination centers?

You told Mrs Paddy "I hope what you teach your homeschooled children isn't Reading Comprehension."

I hope you never teach again either. And isn'thome schooled supposed to be two words, not one?

Don't you have some tape to be reviewing? How much does the DNC, or George Soros, pay for that?


lumberjack
In my opinion, he hasn't been confused at all up until now, just very calculating. I think he is suddenly confused at how his past has become a campaign issue. That is only supposed to happen to the other candidates. I am confident that there are suddenly a whole bunch of democrats that are really wishing someone had looked into this guy a little bit before they got this far into the primary.

Lumberjack
My vote goes to a confused liar.

Democrat = Confused
Liberal = Liar

Liberal + Democrat = Confused Liar


Why has this church's tax exempt status been allowed to continue???



Smokescreen?
Is all of this a smokescreen to get the news away from the upcoming fraud trial in CA?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId= 56868

Or is it a smokescreen to get the news off of the ongoing trial of Rezko?

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/749138,obama20w eb.article

It seems that all of the Dem candidates are crooks.

UncleB
I humbly ask for forgiveness, kind sir....

Still, I was being facetious, a word with which Robert has no acquaintance.

;-)

You don't really expect
the feds to go after a black church do you? After all, look how much Jessie has got away with over the years and has had no investigation.

lilly
Sorry, but you are at the wrong thread.

You should be at the Thomas Sowell thread, calling him an "Uncle Tom".

That's your forte, isn't it?

BManIII writes:
Lumberjack
My vote goes to a confused liar.

Democrat = Confused
Liberal = Liar

Liberal + Democrat = Confused Liar


Why has this church's tax exempt status been allowed to continue???


Mainly because, it has US Senator who is running for POTUS. The IRS won't cross him.

Lilly you are going to....
need to ramp up the "snarkyness" and "vitriol" if you want to be taken seriously as a truly progressive liberal. Surely you can do better than your only mildly snide comment to Mrs. Paddy.







Vic-BManIII-Lumberjack7392
Telling Lilly The Truth is like dumping sugar in her salt shaker:

She can’t see it.

She’ll never find it,

She’ll NEVER admit it is better than what she had.

Vic
"It seems that all of the Dem candidates are crooks."

DUH!

America's enemies want Obama President!
If Obama is the best choice for Americans then why does America's enemies want to see him elected?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=36308A4 4-DF3D-46AD-829A-4F63BA0C52F1

______________________________
AND for lilly;
Only criminals and cowards fear guns in the hands of honest men.

another thing Lilly...
Mrs. P has more common sense, humor, graciousness, knowledge and genuine kindness in her little finger than you could ever "hope" to possess even considering your very long life of mediocrity.

Farmer's Wife
YOU ARE IN LUCK! Have Lilly, Reverend Wright, etc stand and spew their manure on your fields, you will get tomatoes the size of watermelons.

Vic
re: your links -

Oh what a tangled web we weave....



Nope, Obama has never done anything to make one question his patriotism....

Not if you are a commie.......
And where that come from anyway.

So we know at least ONE person listened to his speech. He could have said he killed 38 people last night in Philly and the crowd would have applauded more loudly than when he blew his nose.

Oh no you don't Vic
I'm not clicking on any of your http articles again. I'm still recovering from the first one!

Nah Georgetwin...
wouldn't want any residue buildup, besides I doubt they could spew anything worthwhile for growing crops any more than they can for doing anything else worthwhile for this country.

sophie
your kidding right! I thought that was absolutely hilarious!!!!!

Sophie
Not Racist but Bigoted? That is splitting hairs, is it not?


Eternal Stupidity of Sophie writes:
amazing how ignorant this country still
is on the question of "racism"...

The reverand's remarks were not racist...

They WERE hateful, divisive, rather crazy in some instances, and possibly bigoted...

Nowhere have I seen anywhere in his comments or in the church's position that whites are inferior or inherently evil...In fact I heard him state the opposite - that there is no racial heirarchy in his church's belief system.

As vile and counterproductive as this kind of rhetoric is, that is why it is fundamentally different than the rantings of the aryan nation or KKK...

Actually the "Reverend" Wright has made statements equating whites with evil. You just aren't listening.

Wits07
NICE! Nickname followed by IQ.

The reverand's remarks were not racist..
And Hillary Clinton is a sexy lady.......

And Lilly has all of her faculties...

And I could go on and on....

Georgetwin
NICE! Nickname followed by IQ.


LMFAO!!!!!!!

That was perfect!

wits07
"We don't need more Demagogues"

Then what are you doing here?

Farmer's Wife
You are right, Reverend would want a government mandate to spew less because 150 YEARS AGO his family were slaves. Lilly would spew more out of WHITE GUILT. Obama would want to change the way they spew. Shrillary would claim she is spewing for the children.

WIts000
....Obama has attempted to stay above the fray but the possiblilty of a unifier would hamper or destroy any progress made by white race hustlers such as the clan mentioned above.


So it is unfortunate that members of teh DNC started the race thing huh?

Bill CLinton in S.C. anyone???

Admit it y'all - the DNC is nothing but a white racist organization.

Ssgt
That guy makes Reverend Wright sound like Ronald Reagan.

SSGT
Awww, I'm sorry, I forgot the spew.

BmanIII
wobbie's jet does mach 3

SSGT writes
Georgetwin
NICE! Nickname followed by IQ.


LMFAO!!!!!!!

That was perfect!

Except that overstates his IQ by about 207 points.

Ya'll keep forgtetting that we
want O'Vomit to win.

Georgetwin and the tomatoes...
would never ripen, but be forever green!

Vic
its gonna take more than that! I want 85 push-ups, not consecutive if that helps, and you have to take a shot of cod liver oil.

Vic
you can't hold your nose either!

Sophie
I am BIASED in my own favor as far as looking out for my own best interests. That does not mean I lift myself up by pushing others down with racist/bigoted/biased rhetoric ala Wright/Jackson/Sharpton etc.

Lumberjack7392
are you inferring that wit is now wit-less?

all
catch up with ya later!

latter/later

wong wive the wepubwic

SSGT writes:
Lumberjack7392
are you inferring that wit is now wit-less?

No, he's way beyond witless.

who is this Wit000??
Another one??

Like we need another one.

Farmer's Wife
True, but they would be ORGANICALLY GROWN so all The Leftover Hippies would eat them as they come from a Natural Biological Process. Like for example Oil, Tobacco, Natural Gas, Coal, etc.

SSGT
How about 85 12 oz curls?

don't let the door...
hit your backside on the way out, Sunshine!

Vic
12 oz. curls, is he on The Hal Drunkahue Program?

Folks I have to go
Georgetwin

I'll have to get with you later to find out about the HalD program.

Sophie writes:
"I leave content in the confidence that Obama will probably turn this into a positive for his campaign!"

Sophie, you have now completely and totally lost any remaining credibility you might have enjoyed...

Come back and visit Planet Earth again sometime - after you get your tinfoil hat properly re-secured.

What a moonbat!

Sophielesion scribbles:
It's not as "black and white" as you people want to make it though...

That’s right in a way, there was no white face in that crowd anywhere that I could see. You libs all came on here and proved David right in what he was writing. Especially you lilly, you are one of the biggest racist on TH. And here I thought butt licking dog was.
Geeze I am so glad none of my kids went too your school.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Excuse me...
Did I read that david says that Oboooma's theme is undermined?
WHAT THEME? David must be eating grass as he smokes it!
Now folks ..all this stuff about WHAT CHANGES?
You're kidding ,right? Camels for us, if your nice..if not, sandels! And for him..mercedes Benz,limos,jags,bmw's,rolls royce ..you are getting the picture ?
And all those folks worried about Mitt,Mormons--
you aint seen nuttin yet..if muslim Oboooma takes over.! All that jesus stuff..is gonna be history! Ohhh I forgot, he aint Muslim, geee I feel sooo much better..since we all know those demos are the most trustworthy speakers on the face of the earth!
But look at it this way..if he wins at last Hillary will be wearing a mask over her face!
Geeez, I just blew it! Oboooma will be elected for sure now! elvis

Sophia with a thousand names(Communist)
I can understand how you would want all women to wear tents with eyeholes.
Burquas certainly do conceal an ugly face & figure.
BUT, Sharia law rather frowns upon promiscuous women & women drivers both.
Wouldn't that sort of cramp your European tours?

America's enemies know who you are and they love you Sophie.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=36308A4 4-DF3D-46AD-829A-4F63BA0C52F1

The Dali Bhama exposed
Obama asks us to believe that by his mere ascention to the Presidency, rascism and division in this country will dissappear. Yet,he's been an active member of his church for over 20 years and they appear to be as angry and isolated from US society as ever.
Obama 'the smartest guy in the room' rails against Pres. Bush as the "C" student who couldn't figure out what was actually going on in Saddam's closed Police State, 10,000 miles away, yet he didn't know what was happening in the pew next to him. Who's the dumb one now?

Limbaugh
"Wright Connection Fatally Undermines Obama's Central Theme"

YOU WISH!

Sophia with a thousand names(Communist)
I know you fear naught!
Mainly because you wear blinders and refuse to look at anything that displeases you.
Dangers will not go away simply because you choose not to look at them.

You deferred to the wisdom of my generation yet you refuse to heed their warnings.
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.am ericanthinker.com/2008/03/jihadists_and_progressives_an.htm l

JamesJ
"Liberals are abject cowards and they prove it here daily"

***

A monumentally stupid thing to say. Are we supposed to believe it just because you say it.
What is there in these posts that suggest
cowardice. I think it takes a brave heart just
to read the crap that is spewed here on a daily basis.


sophie
the only pink martian you have is between you ....s
thanks for playing though!

Isn't it refreshing to know...
That there was only ONE immortal who walked this earth, and it was a male who was not married to a Peruvian drug provider and obviously on prescription drugs as well, or at least versed in them whether legally or illegally.

Talk about a person with double standards...I'm sure if S were ever caught in an explosion like the Twin Towers, her stilletos would be thrown off to make haste out of the fiery inferno. I highly doubt she would be fighting off any Islamo-fascists, I can see her running for her pathetic life, or of eternal darkness!

Something missed in the whole thing
Obama, in his speech today made sure to talk about all the "good works" from his church.

He talked about outreach programs for the homeless and so on.

Gee, AlQeada and Hezbollah also provide social programs to the poor in their area, does that excuse the 3000 dead americans on 9-11?

Al Capone donated a lot of money to widows and orphans and went to church every sunday, that didn't stop the government from sticking his butt in prison.

Obama is going to backpeddle like crazy to try to dig himself out of the hole his preacher put him in, but I don't think it's going to be eough, the american people now know his Real views on this country, and it's not "unifying".

and anyone who tries to claim this was a conspiracy by the VRWC has got to be totally deluded. I didn't see Rush Limbaugh holding a gun to Wright's head, making him spout off his hate filled rants. If anyone outed this guy,it was the clinton camp.

WELL, clearly psycho-sophie is STILL

oblivious to any and all reality...

Must be nice to live in the twilight zone.



hEY SOPIHE
3000 americans????

virudda
You come here poo pooing on other people's words and expect YOUR words to have merit when you have nothing to validate them but your wishful fantasies?

Back up your words with links;
like;
http://crushliberalism.com/2008/03/13/moonbats-spitzer-pork ing-hos-is-bushs-fault/

Sophia with a thousand names(Communist)
Your idea of how to deal with Iraq is surrender to al-Qaeda so they bring the war to American cities.

How will you surrender monkeys deal with Iran?
Surrender preemptively?

sophie...your right
It is tough being me!
But it has nuttin' to do with Muslims !
I cant appear without the girls mobbing me, ripping my clothes,staying dead for over 30 years, without being revealed as a living person!
But iam off the mind altering drugs..too bad I cant say the same for you! And dont waste your time trying to mentally banter with me .......
"sunshine" because your a real lightweight..!
I would suggest some pills for you...but it is obvious your on way too many already!
elvis

Viruddh
""I think it takes a brave heart just
to read the crap that is spewed here on a daily basis.""

Then why do you subject yourself to a site full of writing you can't stand?

Would you go to a restaurant where you don't like the food every day just to complain?

Or is it the fact that even a liberal like yourself can't stand the echo chambers on the lib sites?

You rail on and on about how evil conservatives are, and how libs are the real advocates of free speech, yet your "showplace" sites stifle all dissenting opinions.

Spin it however you like viruddh, but a lot of people who thought obama was the 2nd coming are finding out he's just a re-packaged Jesse Jackson.

I can't wait for the dem convention, it's gonna be a Hoot!

Sophia with a thousand names(Communist)
You keep quoting people most of us here have never heard of.
You do not back up your statements with links to verify anything you say, you just spew and parrot Progressive propaganda.

Verify your sorces!
Like this;
http://crushliberalism.com/2008/03/17/kos-kooks-us-needs-to -be-conquered-to-be-compassionate/

Wow
I go away for a few hours and look what happens!

Farmer's Wife: Thanks for the kind words! You made my day!

lilly: In point of fact, I don't homeschool my kids...they are all grown up now, but I think homeschooling is a good option.

Regardless of the source of the film clips, you never did speak to the content...But I guess that would be too much like being honest and perhaps even critical of Obama's 'spiritual mentor." That was my point. If they are bona fide, then he needs to take responsibility for them.

The eternal stupidity of sophie
""Despite the fact that liberals are the ones trying to protect American values and liberties while conservatives are oh so willing to give them up in their fear, to basically cave into the goals of terrorism?""


Yeah you lefties definitely protect america's values. Values like Abortion on demand, blaming every ill on "whitey", stealing my money to give to crack hos with 14 kids from 14 fathers, despicable sex acts performed on the street, and any other freaky thing you can think of.

Do us all a favor sophie, stop defending those american values, ok?


Sophielesion scribbles:
Poor Elvis
Try popping a xanax.

Hey, don’t listen to it, Elvis. She has “popped” one to many and she is a dope.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Sophie: WRONG AGAIN, AS USUAL!!!!!
psycho-sophie says, "al-queda actually wasn't in Iraq..."

Actually, as they were.................

"Al Qaeda in Iraq Under Saddam"
By Jamie Glazov

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=610693B A-4E49-4B2F-9837-B552C3D54A6C

Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Osama al-Magid, a former police officer in Iraq (1992- 2003).



That's only one of the problems with the limited lunatic liberals..... They don't do any research, and they believe ONLY what they want to believe...


Not to mention, they're dumber than DIRT!!!!!









viruddh writes:
I think it takes a brave heart just
to read the crap that is spewed here on a daily basis.

You mean you really go back and read your own crap? Talk about an ego, jeeze!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

Sophielesion scribbles:
You do realize that statistically, the majority of those victims as well as the majority of the heroes that day (fireman, police, first responders) are/were liberals?

This is pretty close to being the most jackass statement you have “EVER” MADE UP. Why don’t you pop another xanax, roll over pat lilly on the arse and go to sleep?

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country! Well, until McQuack comes up with more ideals on how to kill free speech.

The word I used was...
Drug PROVIDER, not DEALER, but if you want to spill the beans as most liberals usually do when asked tough questions, go ahead. It is a conundrum and I imagine talking to you face to face would be an unpleasant experience, similar to speaking to someone from 'code pink!' You just DON'T get it!!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=16365 3&title=marines-in-berkley

I never said the NYPD, NYFD, or anyone in the Twin Towers were Cowards!! I said YOU would be in the SAME SCENARIO! Trying to talk to someone who seems is delusional seems to be a TOTAL Waste!...How apropos!

sophie....without us
On this site...what would you do?
Lookie honey..middle names dont bother me and neither do you....I just smile as you slobber all over yourself..... and as for that stuff you suggest that i use...i have one parting thought
when you bend over to pick up the marbles that fell out of your head..shove that stuff up your canal where the "sunshine" doesnt shine!

elvis

Sophia with a thousand names(Communist)
When you quote statistics, please post links, or better yet, please don't quote numbers when you post.

When a Progressive quotes any statistic it is always assumed they just made it up on the moment to assist whatever point they are trying to make.

Links;
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=56494

MyOpine
Didn't you know that 94.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot? :op

For libs it jumps up to 112% because they're really bad at math, or they wouldn't think you could tax your way to prosperity.

sophie sophie sophie....
You'll never learn will you?

""I was more specifically referring to the values of human rights, privacy, accountability and transperancy and competence from government, the rule of law, honoring the constitution, setting the standard for the world on democracy...""

so much liberal spin, so little time.

Let's see, to start with, give me ONE concrete example of a single american citizen who has had ONE single human right violated by Bush....... I'll wait.


While you're furiously googling, and searching through wikipedia, here's a couple more things to think about, (if that's possible for you)

Privacy??

Who is it that wants to keep me from my Krispy Kreme donuts with trans-fats bans? Who is it that wants to make it illegal for me to smoke a cigarette in my own damn house? Want to talk about invasion of privacy? How about you libs invading my right to teach my children morality?

Accountability??? You support Hillary Clinton, the queen of subversion and obfuscation (look 'em up) and preach to me about accountability? Gawd! You're freaking Hilarious!!

Rule of law? Here's a Law for you It is ILLEGAL to enter this country without a visa. How about that law sophie?

I'm not even going to waste my time going on, I tink everyone with a functioning cerebellum understands that you're an idiot.


You can't help it, you're a liberal.

Typical Lefty sophie
You just can't have a conversatione without calling peple names can you?

Where did I say anything of the sort?

You idiots on the left side are constantly reminding us of how bush supposedly took away all your5 rights, so I assumed you were still on that broken record.

can a conservatyive say anything without you twisting it completely out of shape?

I'm sorry that you're mad at the whole world for being born ugly and stupid, but you really shouldn't take it out on others, it's really childish.

Of course if you weren't childish, you might have a chance of not being a liberal loser waiting for the nanny state to care for your useless carcass until you're done with it.

Then of course you'll want a state funded funeral too.

I don't know why I wasted my time with you, It would be easier to convert a jehova's witness to islam than to make you ever see anything remotely related to common sense.

Go peddle crazy somewhere else, we're not buying.

LB something you should think...
about. Your right to smoke a cigarette (still, for now at least a legal activity) in a privately owned establishment (restaurant, bar or whatever) should not be limited by anyone else's nose (lungs) if they decide (read choose) to bring said nose into such an establishment. After all, entrance is not mandatory.

The only person who should have the right to limit any legal activity in his privately owned business should be the owner of said business, not the behavior police through a nanny government.


S AKA LB
As for needing a better "oppenent" you better look that up in the dictionary, but if you mean opponent, anyone could beat you with one hand tied behind their back and I suspect the LB moniker will be banned soon. You've overstepped the boundaries! Was that one too many Peruvians you love to brag about, or the lack thereof? I don't know which is worse an addict who is on a high, or one who is in need of a fix!

As a person in the medical field, I can see that your ignorance shines as bright as the Sun on a clear day after a rain in Montana! Jack was talking about your Gov the Terminator of VALUES, (if you truly live in CA) who bans traditional family values; while sending his own to private school, now there's a double standard, a wolf in sheep's clothing! Speaking of someone who can't seem to keep their story str8, you've claimed to live in SC, TX, and CA, so WHO is to believe YOU? Then there's your penchant for bragging about the joints you smoke! Studies have proven how many brain cells those kill; that should leave you with enough to barely function, no wonder you live in a fantasy world and don't understand the TRUTH!

Sophia with a thousand names(Communist)
Either you are getting tired or loaded on crack or both.
I don't see how you do it but you are slurring your keyboard like a drunk slurs his speech.

Like I said, you are just inventing your own statistics as you write.
Care to guess the politics of the foreign citizens in those buildings?
Where are all these links you boast of?
I often post links. You rarely ever do.
Would that indicate you are posting fiction?

You don't need to worry about Bush listing to you call your dope dealer unless he lives in Iran or someplace like that or is a suspected terrorist.

oh and sophie
Why do you insist on impugning the good name of our first lady? Tell me one law Mrs Bush enacted as an elected official.

When you do stupid stuff like that, you just show the whole world that your posing as an "enlightened Liberal" is covering up your naked Hate for one Man. You hate george bush so much that you have literally let it control your entire life.

I'm sorry to say this sophie dear, but you're freaking insane. Get help, seriously you're cracked your noggin and your brains done leaked out.

Wright proves the past
I know it has been mentioned here several times, but I think it is interesting the correlation of the flag lapel pin issue, and the hand over the heart during the anthem and his attendance at a racist, anti-American church. I wanted to give Obama a pass when there was a small debate about the fact that he doesn't wear a lapel pin doning the American flag, or that he doesn't cover his heart during the National Anthem. I didn't want to give Michelle any room for her comments about not being proud of her country until now, but with Wright's comments, it all makes sense, and now it is believable all these issues.

doc.....
You often make me laugh....tanks..i need that!
Have you noticed how we all love sophie..or is it dopie!?

elvis

MyOpine
"When a Progressive quotes any statistic it is always assumed they just made it up on the moment to assist whatever point they are trying to make."

As my Dad used to say, "Figures don't lie, but liars can figure."

Tuesday @ 7:17 pm wrote:
"BTW, have they found that Bin Ladin guy?"

I went to a liberal's speech who spoke on "resolution by assassination," afterwards I questioned his meaning. I wanted to make sure I understood what he said was what I had interpreted. I was correct.

He said "If we have bin Laden in our line of sight, he should be killed." I asked "Do you think Saddam Hussein should have been handled the same way?" He said "Absolutely!" Then I said "So, by your reasoning Bill Clinton failed because he had numerous occasions to take out both men."

He looked at me and said "You have left me in a conundrum, but I cannot disagree, you are correct, Clinton did fail because he had many opportunities to take out both Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden. You are a very wise woman and I appreciate your candor, you may attend my lectures any day. I appreciate your insight and the fact that you see through history as well as current events." He talked to me for another thirty minutes.

He also said "If Bill Clinton had 'taken care of business' we would not be in the mess today and people would not be blaming our current president." I know that's quite a mind trip for a liberal to admit, but he was an honest and educated liberal!

Sophie wrote:
"All humans are prejudiced"

Then why oh why do you complain about others being that way? Not only are you admittedly prejudiced but a snob as well. And wrong on nearly everything you post I might add.
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