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Friday, November 30, 2007
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Clinton News Network
by David Limbaugh
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The CNN/YouTube Republican presidential debate serves as a perfect example of why conservatives refer to CNN as "Clinton News Network." Republicans should have declined CNN's invitation, just like Democrats declined Fox News, though it's doubtful Fox would have orchestrated or permitted a similar ambush of Democratic candidates.

The "debate" involved many questions designed not so much to highlight the candidates' differences (other than Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney on immigration) but to place the entire conservative agenda in a negative light.

Many were "When did you stop beating your wife?" questions because they included premises calculated to make Republicans look bad irrespective of the candidates' responses. Even if CNN didn't conspire with the questioners, the effect was the same. You'd never catch Democrats in such a situation. Let me give you a few examples and, with some, offer alternative responses.

One questioner asked what criminal penalties should be imposed against an aborting mother -- not whether there should be criminal penalties but what they should be. The purpose was to divert attention from the horror of abortion to the seeming harshness of criminalizing pregnant women who choose to end their babies' lives. Conservatives are uncaring, uncompassionate and evil. Are Democrats ever asked whether the denial of a woman's "choice" to abort is outweighed by the denial of the baby's very right to live?

Another asked "Christian conservative" candidates whether Jesus approved of the death penalty. On the heels of the abortion question, this question seemed intended to 1) suggest an inconsistency in the conservative position opposing abortion but supporting capital punishment and 2) paint Christian conservatives as false followers of Christ because Christ presumably wouldn't favor capital punishment.

Gov. Mike Huckabee masterfully answered the first implication, explaining that the death penalty is imposed on those adjudicated guilty by law whereas abortion is performed on the most innocent -- something I've always said, having never understood this illogical liberal attempt at playing "gotcha."

Huckabee ducked the Jesus question with a cute quip that Jesus was too smart ever to run for public office. I probably wouldn't have won any points, but I would have answered it directly, saying I believe God mandates capital punishment in the Old Testament not as a denigration of life but as an affirmation of it. Precisely because God made us in His image, we do not have the right to murder, and the murderer must be punished with his own life. Though Christians believe God revealed Himself progressively and more fully in the New Testament, the immutable God of the Old Testament is the same as the God of the New Testament. Since God's capital-punishment mandate wasn't retracted in the New Testament, I believe it's fair to assume Jesus would approve of the practice.

Another question included the assumption that our invasion of Iraq had hurt America's image in the world, especially the Muslim world, and asked what the candidates would do to repair it.

The question implied the invasion was wrong. I wish the candidates had rejected the premise, defended the invasion and added that if our image has suffered, it is largely due to disgraceful Democratic slander against President Bush and the invasion. Incidentally, are Democrats ever asked what would happen in Iraq if we were to follow their blind demands to precipitously withdraw our troops?

Another question suggested that since candidate John McCain was the only torture victim on the stage, the other candidates had no right to disagree with his opinion opposing waterboarding. I wish the other candidates had challenged this "typically liberal" assumption that firsthand experience imputes inerrancy on a subject and the lack of it disqualifies. As a bonus, I wish they had also corrected McCain's self-described "straight talk" on this subject in implying that Romney's prudent failure to publicly define torture constituted an endorsement of it.

Another rhetorical question suggested President Bush had given Vice President Dick Cheney too much power. This ongoing liberal myth wrongly implies that with many decisions the buck has not stopped with Bush but with Cheney. Insiders I know and trust flatly refute that notion, saying that President Bush has been absolutely in charge. It also contradicts the other liberal idea that Bush is a dictator who won't listen to anyone.

Finally, the questions about the confederate flag and gays in the military were crafted not to elicit information or distinguish the candidates' positions but to make Republicans look bigoted -- period. And what could be more unprofessional than CNN encouraging the disgruntled retired gay general to lecture the candidates for failing to give the answer he preferred to his loaded, self-serving and mostly irrelevant question?

The candidates answered the questions far more directly than Democrats ever have in their debates, but, overall, we witnessed a barely disguised CNN propaganda spectacle.

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Did anyone else
have cut-ins (commercials) for local advertisers, that came from out of nowhere, right in the middle of a candidate statement, only to end sixty seconds later, jumping back into the middle of the conversation? It was incredibly frustrating.

I also found it curious that they ran those two lines right across the faces of the candidates. THat could have easily been accomplished in one corner of the screen, or at the bottom. It was an amateurish production, and the Republicans should have had some kind of liaison to ensure that the production looked first rate. They dropped the ball, in that respect.

MSM
The news isn't that CNN allowed operatives for Democratic candidates to ask questions. CNN is incompetent. We knew this was going to happen.

The news should be that CNN thought these were good questions. They display a bias for Democrats. Where was the question at the Dems debate about higher taxes? No gotcha with the Dems.

Lesson 1. CNN is not about news. Don't watch. Don't appear. Sorry Beck, get on a real network.

Lesson 2. Dems have no backbone. Can't expose themselves to real questions. If Fox is too difficult, how do you trust them to handle North Korea?

Lesson 3. Republicans should hold a real debate. Rush and Hannity as moderators. Take the time to answer each others questions. Dems would look silly (sillier?) with their plants.

Rush, get away from Liberals(R)
McCain, Guiliani, Romney are perfect democratic candidates. You would have a great time with their pasts.

Nevertheless, if a liberal has an (R), we should vote for him?

And do you really think we are all so fascinated with Bill Clinton's wife, that you can talk about it continually for the next year?

We all love you, but you are pushing it.


Hey Limbaugh
"though it's doubtful Fox would have orchestrated or permitted a similar ambush of Democratic candidates"

***

You have got to be kidding!!!

Hey, Random
I'm glad to be able to answer your question. Here is the higher taxes question from the Dem debate:

"I'd like to know, if the Democrats come into office, are my taxes going to rise like usually they do when a Democrat gets into office?"

If only you, Limbaugh and everyone else on this site who has been ripping CNN for being too mean to the poor little Repubs would have the intellectual honesty to research the questions that were asked of the Dems, you would find that, based on their tone anyway, several of these questions most likely were asked by Repubs trying to make the candidates squirm.

And I don't see a problem with candidates having to answer difficult questions, no matter who they come from, although I probably would if I had to try to find anything good about any of the Repub group.

"Professional" media usually ask such easy questions because they don't want to offend anyone or make any enemies. More regular people of all backgrounds should be asking the questions. But it's typical of Repubs to scream about liberal media bias whenever it suits their purpose. The media for the most part is lazy and corporate controlled. To say they are liberal is completely ridiculous.

badgerboy
CNN is one of the communists headquarters along with CBS NBC & even ABC(if they stil operate).

Hillary & her other low life ilk have total control over these propaganda outlets.

viruddh
We're glad you agree that it was a setup job by CNN.

I don't know about you guys....
....but as an aside; I think some of the questions are ones that need to be addressed.Granted,a few were ridiculous(the Bible question,the Jesus question)but for the most part,these were tough questions compared to the Dems debate.If our candidates have a hard time answering questions like these,asked by(for the most part)regular people,how will they fare in today's international political arena?These"set-up" questions coming out of left field(pardon the pun)for me at least,is a great way to see who is quick on their feet and who can take a curveball.I may be missing the point of the article and am expecting some flack,but hey;there's truth in spontanaiety....(sp.?)


















is a great way to test a candidates meddle.

CNN Debate Questions
From all the whining about the questions at the CNN Republican Presidential Candidate debate one may conclude that the Republican pundits think it is unfair for a Democratic Party suppporter to be allowed to participate. I think this is just silly. Either side should have to field questions from the public at large regardless of affiliation. Aren't they seeking to be the President of every citizen? If the object of the debate is to only determine the differences between the candidates so the respective party members can select their candidate, then maybe they should just ask each other questions and debate their differences in a public forum. If the candidates want to take questions from the public then that should mean "all" the public. QUIT WHINING and man up. Jeff COle

CNN
Anyone that watches CNN regularly (and believes what they hear) should just check themselves into a mental institution.

jeff cole
The difference is that this is for the Primary and it should only concern Republicans.

When the primaries are over and the candidates have been chosen, THEN it can be open to Demo plants in the audience.

Fox
From another thread:

We have all discussed who we think "won" this round of silliness so I thought a word on the antics of Fox News is in order.

Their prime 6:00 pm broadcast panel discussion centered on Romney and Rudy with a few sides on Huckleberry. They had a brief mention of McShame blasting Ron Paul, but overall it was all liberals that got the mention. Thompson and Hunter's name and picture did not come up at all even though they discussed illegal immigration in the context of the fight between Rudy and Romney. I thought that Fred clearly came out far ahead in that discussion.

The point is for all of you liberals here is a Fox commentary panel (not news) that was clearly liberal in outlook. Fred Barnes, even after major repudiation by the bases, is STILL pushing amnesty and open borders.

GOFER
You should see CNN World! I've seen it over here and it is so blatantly anti-American, it's not funny. If you've ever wondered why the world hates us, blame Ted Turner and his myrmidons at:

the Clinton News Network.

BTW: Speaking of Bubba, check my blog for a nice article about Bubba and Her Thighness.

Hey virduhduh
did you happen to see the FOX sponsored republicans debate? I guess you did not, considering your moronic post. FOX to it to all of them pretty hard, idiot. Get a clue, then a life!! Its pretty fun living in reality.

Question for McCain and Dems
How many Americans are you willing to let die before you use hard interrogation techniques?

Fed Up With Republicans
The Clinton News Network farce was a setup to make Huckleberry Huckster look good, the sanctimonious Jimmy Carter wannabe. Ugh! I'm fed up with the Republicans, and I am seriously considering not voting for any of the bozos who allowed themselves to get suckered in to this farce. I want someone who is going to take the Democrats' heads off, I though Giuliani was the one, but I was wrong. He fell for it, and got suckered into arguing with Romney - who really needs to go, by the way, he is such a flip-flopper on abortion, illegal invasion, and other important issues. Will the Republiocans ever stop volunteerig to be doormats for the goddamned socialists? No. Bush set the standard, along with Trent Lott, Amnesty McCain, Swarzenegger, Specter, and oall the other RINOs. To hell with the Republican Party. We need a new team. Get Tom Delay and Gingrich, form a new party, and destroy the Democrats.

Problems With Debate.
First off, the candidates handled it pretty well, much better then the dims who have had mostly softball questions.

Question:
Can or should dims participate in republican debates?
Answer: Sure, Be honest about it though, don't sneak them in under the guise of average citizens. Set up an honest format.

Problem:
The questions by the dupes were designed to illicit an emotional response from the viewer, not to learn about candidates.

No Conservatives Running in 2008
None, zilch, nada.

The questions for conservatives is which GOP candidate will

a)be the most electable

b)Do the least damage

c)Defend this nation the best

For Catholic voters, 2008 will be a very difficult year as all of the candidates either support abortion, or have supported abortion while in office (Romney claims he has seen the light, but as govenor he was all for it). Catholic teaching is fairly straight on this, as we cannot aid or support the procuring of an abortion. Nor can we support candidates who openly support abortion legislatively.

doctorfixit
I heat THAT! A new Conservative Party formed along strict Reaganite rules. They'd crush the libturds, Jindal is a great example.

JPK
"Nor can we support candidates who openly support abortion legislatively."

I hear you but when the Catholic Church gives communion to abortionists like Chappaquiddick Ted and RINO Rudy, it's hypocritical. The Church wants Catholics to act a certain way in politics, maybe they should set the example.

How to Answer CNN liberal plants
1. "Your question assumes _________ and I reject the premise of the question on that basis. If you are serious about knowing my views on ______, then I will rephrase your question thus: _______________ and my response is ____________"

2. "Your question is like asking when I stopped beating my wife, it's not a sincere question, and and I'm not going to respond to un-serious setups."

3. "It sounds like you are trolling for sound bites for the other party. Try asking a serious question."

Sad
This is an idiotic column and not just because Limbaugh wrote it.

The premise that CNN is comparable to FoxNews in ANY manner other than trying to move right and sensationalistic a few years ago to "compete" with Faux, is utterly ludicrous. If anything, CNN is now finally inching it's way back to much needed neutrality.

It's quite sad that the Victims On The Right ("Values VOTRs"?) have to deal with anything remotely akin to fairplay, isn't it? I mean, to have a woman claim on national television that she's voting for Edwards after seeing the GOPers brawl childishly over who'd torture better and who hates the brown people the most, was, in a word, DISGUSTING.

But never fear, headinsanders, Malkin and Limbaugh has spun in thusly - there were LIBERAL plants! Gasp!

talisman is delusional
So far nine of the questions in the debate were found to have been CNN plants.

Of course you will deny this but others can go to Michelle Malkins site and read the various entries about them. The one who asks about offending Muslims was a former CAIR intern.

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/11/29/surprise-muslim-youtub e-questioner-was-former-cair-intern/

Question for you talisman: Show me ONE example of a NEWS anchor which is biased on Fox. Just one.

All they said
All the GOP said during the "debate" was valuable, to me, for one reason only--it showed me that none of the front runners are conservative. Nor are they able to break free from the PC crowd and LEAD this country. In my mind it was just sad. . .these questions were quite easy to answer IF you know what you believe politically and have the brass nuts to answer it directly.

How many of us watching would have stood and cheered if just one of those men stood his ground and didn't do the politician dance when clearly liberal plant questions were asked? What a lost opportunity to call the liberal agenda to task and refute it with sound logic. Alas and alack, will we no longer see honest and strong leadership in America?

CNN's other agenda
I haven't seen it mentioned yet but the CNN editors also selected probably the best liberal stereotypes for gun owners by selecting a wreckless rambo dressed guy to represent gun-owners add then a bubba-looking redneck complete with southern drawl to represent the confederate flag issue.

What Jesus did.
Jesus was so in favor of capital punishment that he allowed himself to be killed that way. A real christian would know that Jesus was not about the Earthly body, he was about the soul. And if facing the electric chair, lethal injection or any other form of capital punishment forces an individual to ask forgiveness from God and accepts Jesus, then I think Jesus would say mission accomplished.

talisman
"If anything, CNN is now finally inching it's way back to much needed neutrality."

After planting at least 7 dupes asking push poll questions under the guise of ordinary citizens. WOW your not an idiot(< PLACE MUCH SARCASM HERE)

"GOPers brawl childishly over who'd torture better and who hates the brown people the most, was, in a word, DISGUSTING."

Then

"But never fear, headinsanders, Malkin and Limbaugh has spun in thusly - there were LIBERAL plants! Gasp!"

Well, I know were your head is, there will be a sonic boom when it finally pops out. You will need a good shampoo.

So discussing what to do about illegal immigration is racist?! (How can you breath with your head there?)

Trying to decide how for to go when interrogating a man who may have information that can save innocent lives? as well as your troops? Not important enough too you?

cnn stupidity
the questions were stupid and innane!

a flag, bible and ammo questions ...

what a waste of time. then they get a bumbling idiotic general to stammer through his boo hoo story.

what a waste of time for all involved. i could not believe that this was a professional production!

glen beck is the only thing wothwhile on cnn

Robert
"What you seem to be suggesting is that it is ok for the "cops" to violate a persons Constitutional rights if they "know" that he or she is guilty. Likewise it is ok for us to torture people if we "know" that they know something."

I notice the only way you can legitimately make your argument is to take it out of context. WHO is talking about having cops torturing ordinary criminals? NO ONE THATS WHO.


Robert
"Neither the far left or far right like what they look like when they are on "display"..."

Are you trying to pretend your not a far left wacko? HAHHAHAHAHAHHAAA

All these questioners were Americans
If a Presidential candidate can't field a hostile question from ANY American citizen, he shouldn't be running for President.

Softball questions don't help us distinguish the capable candidates from the bad ones.

Tough questions do.

That was the purpose of this debate--to help the GOP choose a nominee.

It's NOT a commercial for the Republican Party to make itself look good for the whole nation. That comes later.

If the debate made Huckabee look particularly good, all that proves is that Huckabee has the courage of his convictions and sounds authentic when he's speaking off the cuff.

Good for him!

Dem plants on CNN
For all you liberals who don't understand: a REPUBLICAN debate purpose is to learn from REPUBLICAN candidates their views on issues that concern REPUBLICANS (ditto Dems.) REPUBLICANS are selecting their nominee to run against your nominee and Dems are doing the same. REPUBLICANS would never ask candidates to discuss, using the severely limited debate time, homosexuals in the military, how the world views us, criminal penalties for women who have abortions, and the other inane questions CNN selected. You ask, well why not??? Because these are not critical to our freedom, security and the preservation of the nation and our culture.
At a time when the fanatical followers of Islam vow to destroy us, REPUBLICANS want to discern how a candidate would deal with these essential issues, not those dreamed up and planted by CNN.

Typical Liberals
Liars, Cheats and Cowards. Liberal Values on Display on CNN.

If FOX did this to a Liberal
The NYT would run 3 issues a day FOR A MONTH screeching about it. Hypocrisy, another Liberal Value on display.

Missed Opportunity
They missed the perfect opportunity on the death penalty. When they came to arrest Jesus in Matthew 26:53, He says, "Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?" In other words, Jesus Himself voluntarily submitted to the death penalty, and even forgave his executioners.

I'm glad they attended this debate. Back when they were deciding whether or not to do it, I wrote to the candidates and encouraged them to accept the invitation, even though I knew something like this was likely to happen.

First of all, I think CNN came off looking more foolish than the candidates did. They just reaffirmed why I never watch them, and the less clout they have in this election cycle, the better. Second of all, the candidates are not always going to get the easy questions when they are President, and I wanted to know how they will react to a hostile Congress and a hostile mainstream media. Lastly, it clearly distinguishes them from the Democratic candidates. Hopefully, some moderates will start wondering what the Democratic candidates are afraid we'll find out about them.

I really like the YouTube debate idea, but I think the people should vote on what questions get asked, instead of letting a biased moderator do it.

Dogg - predictable as usual

I repeat my previous claim that you cannot reasonably debate David Limbaugh's arguments without an ad hominem against Rush, to wit you write:

"Are you into Rush's oxycontin again?"

Karl B.
"First of all, I think CNN came off looking more foolish than the candidates did. They just reaffirmed why I never watch them, and the less clout they have in this election cycle, the better."

Great point. Watching the Communist News Network is simply a waste of time. Ted Turner and CNN have had their lips planted as firmly to Bubba's butt as Jimmy "the Dhimmi" Carter's are on Castro/Chavez!

Any clown that married Hanoi Jane deserves to share her pain in H*LL!

Anderson Crapper Wins Pulitzer!
How come Republican activists never manage to sneak their way into Democratic debates? If they tried they would end up being sat on by a couple of 300 lb Union thugs. Republicans are able to answer even the most malicious, ill-conceived questions, the Dems have to hide behind the skirts of their media mommies to avoid ever having to answer a straight question. If someone ever tried to ask Her Thighness a follow-up question to one of her vague, dishonest evasions the Clinton Crime Family would ensure that he was soon sleeping with the fishes. Look at the contrast. This debate was an obvious smear job but the Repubs just dealt with it and moved on. After Hillary's jaw almost dropped off trying to answer two questions from Tim Russert we had weeks of screeching and sniveling about attacks and piling on. Tim Russert was trashed and Wolf Blitzer was threatened not to be so presumptuous as to insult Her Thighness with any further attempts to take her off message. What a bunch of lying frauds you libs are.

Primus54
Like T.R. on Malkin (anchor baby), MLD short-strokes it over Limbaugh's every column.

The visual I get of the dork is a spit-covered monitor as he screeches at it while pounding the keyboard like a monkey possessed!

Not even worth replying to.

Bravo CNN
Regardless of the tactics, the end justifies the means so long as we can get the United States back on track to becoming a fully socialized nation. If CNN has to use questionable tactics to ensure that the supporters of socialist ideology prevail in the election, then they should do so.

We simply have to stop the conservative machine from interfering with the progressives in our government. Such rulers know what is best for the subjects that live in this nation, and most Americans prefer to have their daily decisions made by wise rulers who are better able to make them.

Furthermore, we must eradicate capitalism and individualism in this country in order to ensure that all citizens are equal, and are therefore happy. If a little manipulation on the part of the media has the result of making everyone happy, then the media has an obligation to do so, and without conservative criticism.


Frobusto (aka, "Fraud Robert")
In our "Earth is Round" segment, also known as "Stating the Obvious", Frobusto opines:

"And it is that center in this election that is the stirring giant..."

Hmmm... about 40% of voters will vote Democrat and 40% Republican no matter who the candidate is. That leaves about 20% - the so-called "swing voters", also known as the voting "center".

Frobusto - it is ALWAYS the center the candidates are trying to win over.

Of course, with your worldview - you'd know these people as "the far right".

The GOP Candidates really missed...
The GOP Candidates really missed the opportunity as Doctorfixit stated earlier. What they should have done, after they saw what CNN was doing was all stand together and walk out, stating that the questions were not well representing the Republicans and that they should have known better trusting CNN to host a first class Republican Debate.

skep41
It's now "Puppy" Blitzer aka Hitlery's lapdog.

GunnyG & Loyal Democrat
Hello Men.

Glad to read you both today and to know you have bith so far avoided harm.

Thanks for what you do & continued success and good health!

Right On Gunny!
I know we're all good conservatives here but I think we should take up a cyber-collection to pay for MLD to go to the porno site of his choice so he can release some of his pent-up rage. What an irrational loser. You know that the trees cut down to provide space for your idiotic comments contribute to Global Warming. Go shatter mirrors in some other universe.

Oops
"bith" = "both"

Primus54
Thanks.

You're in rare form these days, scorching libs left and right!

Well done!

If you get a chance, check my blog for my reply to Bubba's pack of lies in a speech he bleated a day ago.

I think you'll dig the pic!

Loyal Democrat
Your really are sick! Eradicate capitalism and individualism will not ensure all citizens are equal and they would not be happy. Look to the History of the World demonstrating Socialism.

By the way, all people are not equal. Some do more for themselves and for their society and because of it, they are better people and better off because of it. That is the rewards for getting out of bed and doing something with your life.

Do America a favor, move away if you don't like America. Because Americans like me will insure we will not allow you and idiots like you to destroy everything that has made this Country great. If you Socialists ever get control, People like me, and we outnumber you by far, along with our Military, National Guard, and Veterans all over will take out our guns and we will take back CONTROL. You and your type had better not be around when the People decide to take back our Country from you Communists. GOD BLESS AMERICA. CITIZENS BE THANKFUL FOR THE FREEDOMS AND LIBERTY THAT IT PROVIDES. NEVER VOTE DEMONRAT FOR THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR FUTURE!!!!!

Jimmy D
Let me clue you in amigo. Loyal Democrat is TH's EXPERT satirist of the libsquirts. He is adept at jabbing sticks in the moron's eyes! haha.


GunnyG
Why is it wrong when MLD brings up Rush’s drug use but it’s ok for you to bring up Jane Fonda’s stupidity every time you refer to her? You two have a striking resemblance in style.

Jimmy D
Are you saying be thankful for your freedoms and liberty but if we don’t use it the way you say you and others will kill us?

MikeR
I'm sure Gunny can answer you himself, but think about it this way.

Rush admitted he had a drug problem, got treatment and is in recovery.

If Jane Fonda would admit she also has an incurable, progressive disease - aka, liberalism - sought treatment and entered recovery, I'm sure most of us would stop referring to her stupidity (or yours).

LOL...still loving these Neo Kommies...
...so predictably showing up to support any dirty tactic by their Big Brother leaders. Whatever their Kommissars and Feuhrers do is OK with these Neo Kommies. They are so lost in their vile hatred of their country and their political opposition that they will accept any tactic used to advance their own - anything but the truth, that is. They are such caricatures!

Boutte
Yeah, you Ron Paul supporters are great. You don't like someone's answer, so you boo them. That is clearly the height of intellectual argument.

GunnyG
The image I get is a Chihuahua yipping and scratching in a litter box for “kitty treats”.

GunnyG
Read you Bubba piece - great caption to the picture!

As to "Dogg Pile", he sounds like he's a member of "Calypso" Louis Farrakhan's "posse"!

If I was so angry all the time - I'd retroactively abort myself.

Now the jackass is telling us what Jesus would or wouldn't support - even though he doesn't BELIEVE in Jesus. Using that logic, I wonder what he thinks Spiderman or Batman supports?

GunnyG
Did you see where MAN LOVING DORK, the Racist Heathen Coward of a Lying Liberal Cheat, gave Limbaugh his take on Christianity?

What a Loser! Probably missed his Heroin Fix this morning.

MikeR
let me see if I can follow your logic.

Rush uses drugs to kill pain and becomes addicted. Goes to rehab.

Hanoi Jane not only provides aid and comfort to our enemy in a time of war, but provides them propaganda, and also gets POWs tortures when she gives their notes to the commies.

Where's the link? Check your tinfoil hat.

Vic
KITTY TREATS!

That needed a spew alert!

Yeah, MLD definately gets his chow out of the cat box.

MLD
"I see my typos are massive today - too much vodka last night..."

Clean the spittle off of your screen dingbat then you'll be able to pound the keyboard like a possessed monkey more effectively. Or more likely, stop using white-out on the screen to fix your typos.

As for Hanoi Jane we shouldn't even
be discussing her. If we had had a president worth a d*mn she would have been charged with treason on return from Vietnam and shot. I would have volunteered for the squad. It would have taken several shots spaced out over an hour. I would have made sure I had a shakey hands hang-over and "missed" a few times.

All
Heading to chow and watch. Keep slapping these lib-punnks, They love it as well as deserve it.

GunnyG
You actually got me to laugh. That POW torture story is a myth. It has been researched and has not been substantiated in any way. All you (and Primus) have done is rationalize. You’ll come up with any excuse for Rush because you support him and will reject any excuse for Fonda because you hate her. And then you offer insult. You and MLD are two peas in a pod.

MikeR writes:

"You and MLD are two peas in a pod."

Careful, Mikey. MLD has already warned you about comparing him to the Gunny.

He might just have to fight you - as soon as he recovers from his vodka induced haze.

miker
Everyone should be held accountable for his actions and inactions. Period. Your Parents should have taught you that. Without accountability their will be chaos, and this Great Country won't exist any longer.

miker
Your statement, "we don’t use it the way you say", is ridiculous to say the least. I don't dictate one's freedoms the Constitution and Bill of Rights dictate all of our Freedoms and Rights. You can't take away mine, nor can I take away yours....The Socialist want to restrict mine without restricting theirs. it doesn't work that way. Socialism, Communism, and Dictators all promise what the masses wish for and want until they come into power. Open your eyes and see what is taking place in the World and Grow Up. America, Conservatives, our Constitution and Bill of Rights, or Capitalism isn't the Enemy. SOCIALISM is the Enemy.

Miserable Liberal Doggpile
You see - you moonbats always get things 180 degrees out of phase.

What you meant to say is that you wish Conservatives would use only HALF their brains - 'cause THEN they would be liberals.

Just remember what Winston Churchill said about the difference between liberals & conservatives.

Jimmy D
I agree completely with accountability, but that’s not what you were expressing. You made a clear threat of violence against political adversaries. Then you stated that democrats are the enemy of the country. They are not. The irony is that you vehemently oppose communism but promote the idea of there being only one party and the elimination of any opposition. That’s the way the Soviets operated.

Accountability is very important. You should start being accountable for the words you actually wrote in this thread.

Moron Licking Dingleberrys
A hangover is a sign of Alcohol Abuse. White Trash IS a racist term and you are a Typical Liberal Gutless Wonder, who thinks you are judge, jury and executioner.

My appraisal is accurate, but YOU KNEW THAT didn’t you!?


You are an illegitimate, disingenuous, gutless, Liberal Crybaby who only logs on TownHall to spew hate! You are not worth the powder it would take to end you!

MikeR writes:
"Accountability is very important. You should start being accountable for the words you actually wrote in this thread..."

Great answer, MikeR.

Just as Jane Fonda should be accountable for her words in Hanoi.

Primus54
Of course, but I’m not defending Fonda’s actions. She shouldn’t have gone there. A few years ago she offered a feeble apology, but I didn’t consider it acceptably. Rather my whole point is based on the exchange taking place here. Gunny derided someone for doing what he does on a regular basis.

treasonous repugs
Another Addict heard from!

King Liberal requests:
"Wake me up after Hllary's president..."

May you enjoy eternal slumber, Lord Moonbat.

Poor Comparison
King Liberal makes a poor comparison.

Rush Limbaugh makes no claim to being unbiased. He readily admits to being a proud conservative. What you think you are going to hear - you get - conservative talk radio.

CNN - and the many other left-leaning outlets under the MSM banner, claim to be neutral. Yet they are anything but. It is dishonest propaganda at best.

Still crazy after all these hours
and conservatives are still crying like little girls because somebody asked a gay question.

For an ideological group that is famous for phony, question- and attendee- planted faux "town-halls" - paid for at taxpayer's expense no less) scripted, phony press conferences, and planted non- reporters at White House briefings who were programmed with Bush-friendly inquiries, you are an amazing bunch of hypocrites.

And you're still whining about the "Diamonds or Pearls" question? All that says to me is that asking Rudy about his baseball loyalties must be considered by conservatives to be a really difficult challenge - not a surprise.

Doesn't take a motto...
... or a "village", Hillary lover.

You moonbats are so brainwashed into thinking the CNNs and CBSs are "neutral", that anything reported in a "fair & balanced" manner is right-wing conservatism.

No - CNN doesn't have the motto, but they sure have gone on record claiming they are unbiased - all evidence to the contrary.

And for your edification, most of the conservatives I know get their news from a host of different sources - and don't believe everything they hear or read to matter what source.

Limbaugh is right again
To bad the liberals on this thread can't handle it.

All I see from the leftist are the usual ad hominem attacks.

I see none of them are capable of objectively debating any issue without making a complete jackass out of themselves.

Stand by, they can't pass up a chance like this.


Touj.

And you're still coming to conservative Townhall whining about how conservatives write and correspond with each other - and that all too overused refrain, "You did it too!" Waaaaa!

Why don't you go hang out at Kos - you know, that place that's just overflowing with happy, excited and enthusiatic American patriots.

G.I. Joe
Objectively debating any issue is very rare at TH while ad hominem attacks happen constantly. While many liberals visit this site, the majority are conservatives. Your comment is an example of a lack of objectivity.

Primus 54
I don't go to KOS for the same reason my conservative friends don't come here.

Further, like regulars at both Kos and TH - I'm just not that interested in echo chambers, or reading people who tell me how right my ideas are and how evil are those who disagree. I think that's more the style of people who aren't very secure and need alot of reassurance about what they think.

Actually, I have alot of interesting and civil debates with conservatives on TH, just not the ones who only call names and have some sort of personality investment in identifying themselves against the "enemy"...also, not the ones who are usually drunk, high, or developmentally disabled.

Also
As for pointing out the hypocracy of these tantrums over a gay question, my real point is that I don't remember one column or post on TH when these things were going on amongst Republican warriors, not one negative comment.

Now, suddenly, the world is coming to an end - on Mary K. Hamm's blog yesterday she expressed outrage because a 20 year old You-tube questioner was wearing an Edward's T-Shirt!!

To be honest, I am surprised by this outcry as much as I disagree with conservatives. I picture alot of cons. posters here in alot of ways, but hardly ever as self-proclaimed victims.

Look at the facts
Limbaugh is right, many of the questions put forth at the youtube debate are a rehashing of liberal talking points.

These talking points are designed to embarrass republican candidates.

MikeR wrote:

"Your comment is an example of a lack of objectivity."

How so?

Moron Licking Dingleberrys
BUFFALO BAGELS! You denigrate Christians and Soldiers on a regular basis. Then you turn around and try to explain Christianity when you DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD! ANYONE who spends time on TownHall knows you for what you are. A Gutless, Crybaby of a Hateful Communist! The only people STUPID enough to believe you are LIBERALS!

Go find a Hydrant!

Georgetwin
I love it when you talk dirty to me.

We can't go on meeting like this!

GI Joe said
"These talking points are designed to embarrass republican candidates"

If the Republican candidates are secure and clear in their views, why should they be embarrassed? Do you really think they are embarrassed by what they think?

It seems to me that conservatives would serve themselves better by shouldering up to the bar and acting like adults.

It sounds like Rush feels they shouldn't be asked hard questions. You guys are definitely not helping yourselves.

G.I. Joe
I take it you are new to TownHall. Liberal Trolls have a number of tricks that amuse their simple minds:

1. Claim to be a conservative, but jump you if you disagree with a Liberal.

2. Claim to be a Conservative and write hateful, racist, screeches to make Conservatives look bad.

3. Claim to be Tolerant, Diversity Sensitive, Liberals. Then spew hate and whine about hearing Conservative Opinions on a Conservative Website.

Touj.
We Won't.

GI Joe
Georgetwin forgot to include:

Trolls are also hairy little men who live under bridges. In fairy stories, they are famous for not letting one cross until they answer a riddle.

These are not to be confused with boogymen (which are larger), witches (which are female) or ghosts (which wear sheets and have no hair).

Documentation for most of this stuff can be found in

Andersen, Hans C.
Grimm, both brothers
Goose, the mother


Military Loving Dogg
"Gunny is a moron while my prose is striking and effective"

for example:

"Gunny - OTOH - who makes his living off the death and injuries of American soldoers..."

"but Cirstlamics - eager for blood to lap, can't decide who they enjoy killing more: iraqi babies or inner city youths..."

"...acts lower than any junkie hiding up in the Bronx - and still, Warpublicans hypocrites gather around to inhale his anal vapors."

"...such a piece of human excrement - that you comparing him to me is almost fighting words..."

""Rush uses drugs to kill pain and becomes addicted. Goes to rehab."

Nice revisionism - sort of like: Bin Laden takes flying lessons and ACCIDENTALLY flys into the WTC! Oppsie!"

Yep. That sure is some striking and effective prose. If talking like a foul mouthed high school dropout is your idea of writing striking and effective prose.

GI Joe
I give you Touj and MLD!

Clay
What does OTOH stand for?

What's a cirstlamic?

Clay
For a Liberal Stinkhole like NYC, he MIGHT be considered striking and effective.

Remember, in The Land of The Blind, a One Eyed Man is God!

I get it now
Touj wrote:

"If the Republican candidates are secure and clear in their views, why should they be embarrassed? Do you really think they are embarrassed by what they think?"

Seams like the republicans showed up. The democrats will not debate on Fox news. I didn't say the republicans were embarrassed.

Touj also wrote:

"It seems to me that conservatives would serve themselves better by shouldering up to the bar and acting like adults."

The conservatives have shouldered up, the liberals are the ones who should be embarrassed refusing to debate on Fox news.



It's even clearer now
Military Lovin Dogg is a liberal intellectual.

Clay, thanks for chronicaling MLD's awesome display of intellectual fire power.

How awesome, he might be able to blow out a candle?

touj.
You're pretty much an idiot, but i'm sure you have been told that often.

This is such a FAKE controversy!
I know it's a slow news cycle right now, but all this whipping up of a phony controversy about a planted question about "gays in the military" (which may have been asked ANYWAY) is such a red herring.

If it was a "gay marriage" question, you guys would be all hot & bothered just the same.... all it shows is that some conservatives want to use "GAY" issues to whip up the fears of the largely uneducated proletariat (which includes some posters here) to try & get voters to the polls.

But something funny has happened since the 2004 election. Nobody seems to care much anymore about gay marriage or gays in the military.

Maybe it's time for republicans to go back to demonizing hispanics & try to see if THAT one will work again as a wedge issue.

All the "fuss" on this thread....these yards & yards of words....are the equivalent of political masterbation.

Malodorous Doggbreath writes:
"n!gger is a racist term, spic is a racist term, k!ke is a racist term - white trash is plain old descriptive - I'm posting my opinion to a facist racist blog - that's all..."
----------------------------
Ah, how may I put it? Let me count the ways.

Obviously, my post to you yesterday didn't quite get through that thick, sloping forehead of yours, and although, as I suspect, you have nothing more than a vast, cavernous expanse of pustular pap devoid of any functioning grey matter between your ears, I will try again. Now, although I firmly believe that addressing you is tantamount to using sign language on Koko the gorilla and expecting a reply backed by a coherent thought process, I will nevertheless give it a shot.

Let me ask you this, Sir: Are you now, or have you ever been a mentally functioning human being? A simple yes or no answer will suffice.

Touj
I think you are confused. Those are quotes by Military Loving Dogg, not mine.

"What does OTOH stand for?

What's a cirstlamic?"

OTOH might mean on the other hand.

as for "cirstlamic" you'll have to ask him.

pandm
THanks, I always appreciate an articulate, witty riposte (that's french for clever retort) with overtones of incisive insight and humor.

Too bad yours wasn't one of those, keep trying.

MotleyCrue
As an anthropologist, I take strong exception to the post where you describe MLD as a "thick, sloping forehead" person. No, sir, he is NOT a Homo Erectus, Homo Neanderthalensis, or Cro-Magnon, and I really don't appreciate you bringing Koko into it. We are very close to the apes and chimps, and should respect them.

Besides, he's from the monkey side of the evolutionary limb. ;-)

YLG
I heard that the particular monkey limb you reference actually dropped from the tree and started a whole new forest.

will
lose your boyfriend???????

ylg
what's wrong with ahnold's description that encapsulastes low forehead. Sounds both more cleveer and easier to understand than somealong the line of pithacanthus erectus which as we know libs will interpret as something you might find at some porn site

uneducated proletariat
will wrote:

"...all this whipping up of a phony controversy about a planted question about "gays in the military" (which may have been asked ANYWAY) is such a red herring."

The question was asked by a Clinton campaign steering committee member. He was flown to Florida to appear in person.

Your right, that can in no way be construed as a planted question.

will also wrote:

"...some conservatives want to use "GAY" issues to whip up the fears of the largely uneducated proletariat (which includes some posters here)"

Other than the use of communist buzz words, I don't think anyone is afraid of you.



OK....
....THAT'S IT!!!

THE WORD IS HYPOCRISY. THAT'S H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y!!! ONE WOULD THINK PEOPLE COULD SPELL THAT WORD, SEEING HOW OFTEN IT'S USED AT THIS SITE...!!

OK, I feel better now....

wildwest
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

You are so right, my friend!!

YLG. I must admit, I find
the malodorous one to be eight candles short of a menorah.

YLG
I always thought it was H-Y-P-O-C-R-A-S-Y, but you're right, it comes from the Greek "hupokrinesthai," which means "to play a part."

Go figure.

Hi, Wildwest
I wish you had been here earlier - we can't have our liberal-conservative tussle today because I have to go to a Christmas party. I'll make a little toast to you when I have my first sip of wine.

Touj.
Not mad at you, just FRUSTRATED no end, especially when most people have some sort of SpellCheck.

MotleyCrue
Eight candles....?

I thought he was an atheist, the way he went on about religion.

BTW, we are watching Jason Dolley right now! ;-)

topuj
missed out on some fun but I went to see beowulfe. Won't be available for another week as my wife bought a gun and threatned to shoot me if we didn't go on vacation. We are heading to to the dark regions of liberalism, calif. but only for a cruise and then some disney. Have fun at your parties

CNN / YouTube

It didn't seem to bother the candidates who asked the questions. The questions were good in any case.
Actually it would be a good idea to have conservatives and republicans ask the democratic candidates questions as well. Perhaps in a more honest manner than CNN did. Yeah it should be on Fox, too! I would like to see the candidates debate on Nik with kids asking the questions. I was starting to think it was too early to have this debate stuff, but it's getting interesting.

YLG. Didn't know Jason was on this early
Ah, but you're 3 hrs ahead of California. I suppose that explains it. I'll be seeing him tomorrow night. His brother's in a play, so the whole family goes in support. He has a movie coming out in January. I believe it's titled "Minutemen," about kids that take off into space. Disney produces, so it'll probably be on the Disney channel.

MotleyCrue
Thanks for the info on his upcoming movie. I'm sure the kids will like it, especially my space-crazed son.

I've noticed
that when liberal posters see the word "Limbaugh" they start foaming at the mouth like a bunch of rabid dogs. Liberal posters are a perfect example of subjective thought.

Mouth-piece of Evil
The frog-like unclean spirit must have possessed the Clinton's News Network.

Hasn't the Bible warned you, Chrtistians, that out of the mouths of the false prophet, the beast and the dragon come the evil spirits that look like frogs - harmful permeating propaganda - during the end times? Isn't it true that the mainstream media are but the mouth-pieces of evil?

To all Liberals
Read my name, now stop using "racist" and "bigot" in your accusations. Minorities are beginning to sift through liberal lies and crossing over the "right" side.

HispanicConservative
From one Hispanic to another:

Welcome to the Dark Side!!!

We have cookies!!

I run across some liberals on this site, like lilly, Mister NY Dogg, and treasonous repugs who think that, because I am Hispanic AND conservative, I don't understand the plight of "undocumented workers" and how truly evil Republicans are because we DEMAND that minorities be held to the same standards as everyone else.

It gets tiring, so we just ignore the trolls!!

Charles
Well I never thought Jimmy Carvel looked like a frog, more like a Skin Head, but I do think he is channeling Joey Goebbles.

As to the Clintonistas, you ain't seen nuttin yet. What does it say to you that within 24 hours of the Clinton Mafia being nailed for debate cheating...(and the real interesting questions here which nobody ever seems to ask are 1. Why did they think they could get away with it, and if they knew they couldn't why didn't they care? 2. Why haven't the staffers and producers who let it happen been fired?)...
just when Hitlery needs to get off the front page for dirty tricks there's an "incident" taylor made to make her seem compassionate and caring and Presidential.

Will anybody play up the angle the Hitlery is the go to girl of the nut cases? Or is it all going to be "a desperately needy man reaches out to the only caring person."

You guys have NO CLUE as to HOW dirty and evil she has already made provisions to go. Don't forget Craig Livingston and those FBI files. Tricky Dick and Darth Vader Cheney are fluffy kittens compared to Hillary Lord of the
Sith(ches}.

And it's Slick Willie who ought to be most worried.

the big mick

YLG
Thanks for the comment. I get so tired of people trying to tell me that because I am Hispanic, that I have to be a Dem. My family came over legally and I am a fourth generation American with a college degree. I know illegal aliens, I grew up with many of them around. Granted they are hard workers, but the fact is they broke the law. I would love to see all these liberals, for example, on the upper East Side of Manhattan, invite a crew of illegal aliens to one of their cocktail parties. Think it will happen? Let's see how much they love illegals at that time!

Why Slick should watch his back
The only Kennedy Shtick that Hitlery hasn't done yet is "Widow Grieving by Fallen Hero".

Bill would do well to make sure to WHOM his SS agents are really loyal.

Remember Vince Foster and the cryptic "No one will believe the Clintons and their loyal staff?"

Who was Vince really loyal to? Why was Hitlery in his office? Why did Bill the Sexpervert marry Hilly the Shrew in the first place? Could it be she has secret bed skills? And from where might she have learned them? The Orient?

I've always had a suspicion that Hitlery was Chinese KGB and the Control Agent for Bill.
If she could manipulate Slick, and Foster, could she turn some SS agents?

"Widow grieving by fallen hero in late October ought to be worth 51% in early November.

Watch your back Slick.

the big mick

HispanicConservative
Illegals at a swank Manhattan dinner party...??

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

You have a gift, my new friend!!

YLG
I have a great gift, and what really sucks is sometimes I log on and read some comments posted by Military Lovin Dog (his name giving his stance is an absolute joke), Lilly, Robert, etc while I am at work and I am not going to engage in debunking him on my office PC. I guarantee you many of these columns are linked to DU, Kos, Huff, etc, and what I have seen is the conversation does not head south until liberal ilk is spewed in droves.

HispanicConservative
Well, I don't respond to MLD, whose moniker tries to offend, but ends up making him an embarrassment. Lilly I don't mind; she's set in her ways, and has never come out of her paradise in NYC. treasonous repugs has been banned AGAIN, and I hear Roberto has been permanently banned due to offensive comments made by a supposed officer against our CinC and another Marine. Not sure, though.

Just scroll by troll, like Anne says!!

No Problem
Okay. Let's see how open minded our liberal friends are. Since it's okay for CNN to plant liberal democrat questioners in a republican debate can we now open the floor for conservative republican questioners at democrat debates?

HispanicConservative
Giggle,don't you just love the people who jump to such conclusions.

Oooh, you are a minority to me,therefore I know you are a liberal!

I'd just love to have these fools meet some Cuban friends. These old boys are a few steps to the right of Attila the Hun

These fools are the ones who figure that Clarence Thomas would be crackin' in da hood without that SCOTUS thing.

katy
My, that was saucy!!

What are you sipping, or should I guess??

YLG
No such luck! Just got home from work and cracked a beer.

Eeek! I remember a time when we drank Corona because we were "poor".

Most of my sales came from the "nips" because they stayed colder. Didn't have to stick a lime in it either.

Now it's designer beer. Go figure


How delusional can you people be?
I'll say it again: It's easy to bash CNN because Limbaugh and Malkin and all the others tell you that you should. I understand that authoritarianism comforts you.

But has anyone on this board reviewed the questions from the Democratic debate? No, of course not, because that would require you to question what you are being told. Go review the questions and you will see that many of them were obviously written by Republicans. The only reason you did not hear complaints following that debate is because Democrats aren't whiners like Limbaugh and Malkin and they don't claim bias where it doesn't exist.

By the way, the General is a registered Republican and he decided to volunteer on Hillary's task force. So please give up on the idea that he was planted by Clinton or any other Democrat.

YLG
Not for nothing, but I beleive that some festivity took place while I was working, The Dawg is not demanding food, the bottle of Back Seal is empty and in the trash. The possum just came in though the dawg door and looks trashed too. I will round up the usual suspects in the morning!

Capital punishment
I guess this is why the Dems feel the need to reinstate the "fairness doctrine", to insure that there is nobody to counter this sort of programming. As for the capital punishment issue, the reason the Church has supported it in the past is that it is an extension of the individual right to self-defense, in this case that of society as a whole. The reason JPII spoke against it is that we have the ability as a nation to remove these people permanently from society, and to thus protect ourselves, without taking their lives. The reason many Americans continue to support it is that they know that our legal system can no longer be trusted to do that, that these people will wind up back on the street. Very sad.

Loyal Democrat
You are the greatest. Thank you for another near perfect post. You scatter the trolls like no one else. Few of them will even remain on a thread with you, let alone attempt a response. I guess you prove they do have some shame, after all.

Debate questions
I'll never forget when Fox News asked questions to the Republicans, they threw softballs, but not the garden-variety neighbourhood slow-pitch ones CNN and MSNBC have thrown. Fox News threw Jennie Finch softballs, the type that will leave someone punched out if they aren't careful.

The Democrats are scared that a Jennie Finch riser is so hard to hit that they will be seeing X's on the board and either whiff or will be punched out. Are Democrats afraid of answering questions based on this scenario Fox asked?

"Three shopping centers near major U.S. cities have been hit by homicide bombers. Hundreds are dead, thousands injured. A fourth attack has been averted when the attackers were captured off the Florida coast and taken to Guantanamo Bay, where they are being questioned. U.S. intelligence believes that another larger attack is planned and could come at any time."




YOU TUBE NEEDS SOME COMPETITION
You Tube is a liberal entity that has no competition and they will manipulate things to suit their agenda.

It is time to create a conservative friendly alternative to You Tube, maybe with a name such as ConservaTube.

You Tube will clean up its act only when it has some serious competition.

One-liner world
The candidates, I assume, can handle this heckling...if not they should start. Hecklers are not a new phenoma, but well ingrained in the Urban setting. New Yorkers are especially noted for their sacasim, so the gents running need thick skin and a lot of practiced one-linerss, not 1 minute answers and blow them off. It is also not news what political stripe is preferred by CNN, MSNBC, etc. If someone is lookin for fairness, they need another occupation. Politics is not about 'fair'.

Rudy might be comfortable in this venue, but the other guys need to learn how to box and judo with these set-up people. They can all remember LBJ's format of answering the question he wanted to answer not the one asked.

It doesn't mean that people, like those spearing in this response group don't have some valid issues, but many...most are rhetorical and self serving. So, in the stage venue, the candidates need a lot of humor and glide in responses that matter regardless of the question. There are good reponses to old cliche format questions, so the candidates need to be prepared.

Col DOUG

What's good for the goose
Should any candidate be able to handle heckling or gotcha questions? No question. The problem is that (1) this format encourages sound bite and talking point dialogue; and (2) it's not "whining" to suggest that Democratic candidates also should be able to deal with a debate format that isn't scripted to their liking.

Let's give the Dems a taste of how the Fairness Doctrine might work if it really were applied, well...fairly.

Now, let's have a debate with Rush Limbaugh as moderator and the Democratic candidates on the firing line. He shoots questions at them; then, if he chooses to do so, provides a follow up question. Just like the Republicans, the Dems will have no idea what he is going to ask. If they hedge or flip flop, they can expect to get called on it. A large screen will be mounted above their heads so if they contradict their past positions, they can expect the audience to see a giant copy of the news clipping with the relevant quote above themselves.

Pre-debate Rush will remind the millions of viewers who would tune in that he is a harmless little fuzzball, indeed one whom the Democratic candidates have all ridiculed in the past. All one needs to prosper in this format is core principles, the basic relevant knowledge any pol should have, and integrity.

He will point out that they should have absolutely no problem candidly answering his questions. After all, he's a conservative and everyone knows conservatives are dumb as rocks. If they can't dispense handily with his questions in a TV studio right here in the good old USA, with all the time in the world for their handlers to prepare them, can they really be expected to face off against the Mullahs and various other terror masters in the ME on their home turf?

Any takers, Dems?

David/Folks
What I think you might be missing is those people you call "plants" WERE Republicans and even might still be Republicans. That they support Democratic candidates just shows how isolated you extremists have made the Republican party. I hope that party can survive the damage you have caused it.

USMC Lt.
Yes, they are cowardly, hiding behind the media that protects their real identity....reminds me of Roberto....;-)

USMC Lt.
"They're "ex(or is that former)-republicans" just like the sun rises in the south every morning. "

Well Log Cabin Republicans are Republicans. Do you know the were not R's? I wager that they were. The Limbaughs are notorious for only giving half the truth LOL.

I know a LOT of Republicans of all stripes are supporting Hillary. I suspect it may be her fastest growing group of supporters

Bob
The Democrats are much more likely to sit down to a chat with Satan himself (if they haven't already) than to get close to Rush. That bunch peed their pants and ran from a debate on Fox. I know they are not going to put themselves in the position of being pinned down on anything. The little bit of heat that Russert brought on Hillary was more than she could handle. They are not going to let more of that happen.

CNN ! What a Joke.
LD and MLD sound like what spews out between Hitlary and Chavez's Cheeks.Libturds have CNN for their Mouth piece to spew there Continuous Niggle Network B.S led by the Putz prize wiener and his Libturd friends.LD and MLD have prooved that you can be Molested and survive without any damage.LD and MLD's biggest problem's are they are having to make up for that little swinging hitlary hanging between their legs.The lack of size (intellect)(Envy) can make them very Resentful,Show pitty they need it.

In case there was any lingering doubt…

It’s now OBVIOUS that halD has lost whatever might have been left of his mind!

HalD's 9:39 AM post
"What I think you might be missing is those people you call "plants" WERE Republicans and even might still be Republicans"

Now, that’s a leap only a deranged, desperate person would even attempt!

Brigadier Gen. Keith Kerr served on Clinton's lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender steering committee...

And, the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy was signed by, none other than, ol’ slick willie himself.

Get a grip, halD, you’re losing it!


Proud American
I really love how all you "macho named" clowns then get into name calling and sexual references. I guess you missed the latest study the bluer the state the happier and more satisified the people?

Hey USMC Lt., It's like a breath of

fresh air, and Christmas early! :-)

Although, I have to admit that I would love to be a fly on the wall in his mom's basement to hear and see his reaction when he found out he'd been BANNED! LOL



So, halD changes the subject again...


Proud American
"I really love how all you 'macho named' clowns..."

Really, halD! Is that the best you can do?

Oh wait, yeah, it probably is...



(And, sorry that you lost your buddy....NOT!)




Hal "Phil" Donohue
Let me be one of the first to offer you condolences on the banning of your fellow traveler, Frobusto (aka, Robert Robert).

It will be lonely for a while, but you can always cuddle up to "Miserable Liberal Doggpile", or "lilly" or "Touj" when you are feeling blue.

Never despair though. According to you, so-called Republicans are abandoning the party in droves to worship at the alter of Her Thighness, so you should have new self-deluding friends here soon.

Hey Primus, how ya doin'? :-)
.

Rush as Debate Moderator for Dems
Have to laugh, I think they would much rather be grilled by Satan than Rush. Ole Beelzebub would probably be a lot more sympatico to them.

I certainly know it's not about to happen; Hilary's legions have already blasted Russert-Russert for cripe's sakes-for being too tough. Have to chuckle about that one. And no to Fox news. After all, Fox sits far to the right of Atilla the Hun and might not play nice. They don't know what tough is. But we can dream can't we?

Seriously, I have NO problem with Republicans' feet being held to the fire at all. If it's too hot, that may be a sign you shouldn't be in the kitchen. However, just once, it would be nice to see Democrats get grilled as well and called to account.

USMC Lt., Anne
USMC Lt.: I just read your post, and almost passed out laughing!! My Goodness, I have to introduce you to my young niece.....!!;-)

Anne: I beg to differ as to your 10:48 post: you have to have a mind first, in order to lose it!

Anne
"Now, that’s a leap only a deranged, desperate person would even attempt!

Brigadier Gen. Keith Kerr served on Clinton's lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender steering committee... "

Yes and your point is? You don't think Republicans are abondoning the party in droves? Look at voter registrations. Two examples from here: The neighboring very red, very conservative county for the first time in history elected Democratic county commissioners. My county which had Republican county commissioners leading now has Democratic leadership. For the first time in history the Democrats took 163 of 163 precincts I am not sure if the margin of victory was 30 or 40%.

Republicans serving on steering committees? I certainly hope they are....

"And, the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy was signed by, none other than, ol’ slick willie himself."

I know but your point is? It still is an issue. The real truth is Rush is right in a way. It showed how extreme and out of touch the fundameantalist consevatives have become.

David Limbaugh
There is another article here today on this very subject.Less than 50 posters now while David has almost 200.Must be that the libs don't like David.Wnder why

YLG: You're right! One cannot lose what

one does not have... Point taken! :-)


ol' slippery halD, pretends not to get my point (or maybe he actually doesn't??) Ummm?

Like Kerr is a Republican serving on HELLary's gal and lesbian task force. OK... I guess if you're delusional that might make sense. Perhaps!

And, of course his other "pretend facts" about the Republicans... Straight from the huff&puff web site..



And, here's another interesting little tid-bit.

It seems that Jim Rogers, manager of the Quantum Fund (and George Soros' investment partner) is one of the wealthy contributors to Ron Paul.

Which, of course, beggs the question if MoveOn.Org is re-directing some of their contributions to Ron Paul... and why?


Bob
"Rush as Debate Moderator for Dems
Have to laugh, I think they would much rather be grilled by Satan than Rush. Ole Beelzebub would probably be a lot more sympatico to them."

Rush is a coward start to finish. Debate moderator? LMAO he wouldn't even debate the soldier he compared to a suicide bomber or Jon Soltz from votvets.org LOL. Your hero looks like all the macho named people here.

Anne
Hello to you!

I note with amusement "Phil" Donohue's empirical evidence that Republicans are leaving the party in droves. It is far more likely disenchanted conservatives simply didn't show up and vote.

Does this "birdless" ex-colonel really think these droves are heading for the warm bosom of Hillary liberalism-socialism?

Naw... if droves are leaving, they do so because they are finding the party is losing its conservative principles.

I wonder what excuse Hal has for Hillary's poor head-to-head showing against five Republicans in the latest Zogby poll? A poll she used to lead? What's the matter? Can't Zogby locate those "droves"?

I'm tempted to parrot one of Hal's overused acronyms... "LMAO"!!!

Anne
Hmmmm....It doesn't beg the question, so much as SCREAM it. My guess, and it could be a stretch, would be that Soros Co. would like a repeat of the Bush/ Perot debacle, so Hillary can just slither into the Oral Office. Come to think of it, it wouldn't be an Oral Office anymore. It would be a meat locker....soooo very cold...

Anne
As for the general being a republican working for HRC.....

I can see it happening....

On URANUS.....

Hal D
I guess you missed the latest study the bluer the state the happier and more satisified the people?

On the Left Coast this would be true. But everywhere else is another story.

Primus: Yeah, about those "droves." LOL
And, HalD writes: "I think they would much rather be grilled by Satan than Rush."

WELL, OF COURSE they would. Ha! Satan is on their side... along with those dear sweet radical Islamics (you know, those darlings of the religion of peace who want the head of that teacher who allowed her class to name the teddy bear Mohammad???)

And, oh yeah, Rush would actually ask pointed questions that would have to be ANSWERED!

Now that would be something new and different. HELLary would faint, right there on the spot!





Primus54
"Naw... if droves are leaving, they do so because they are finding the party is losing its conservative principles."

Then why are so many working to put D's in office

"I wonder what excuse Hal has for Hillary's poor head-to-head showing against five Republicans in the latest Zogby poll? A poll she used to lead? What's the matter? Can't Zogby locate those "droves"?"

Let's see what happens then or shall I do what all you folks do..I don't believe polls LMAO. Let's just watch shall we?


Anne
Do you know those radical Islamists' main argument is that the west in general and the US in particular are making war on Islam and all aspects of the religion? Does that sound familiar at all?

YLG: I agree. Which, of course, goes

a long way towards (possibly) answering the question how he has such big numbers "fundraising" yet such "very low" numbers in the polls.

But, this really is NOT about ronpaul, it's about the smarmy Clinton tactics.



Anne, Primus 54
I'm sorry, but Hillary wouldn't faint. Her ether would start to decompose, making her scream out in agony:

I'M MELTING!!!! I'M MELTING!!! AAAAARRGH!!!!!

BTW, the Zogby poll was a plant by fundamentalist zealots bent on destroying our constitutional right to free health care....

Polls are good when HELLary is ahead...

But, when HELLary is behind FIVE of the Republican front runners, all of a sudden, he doesn't believe in them???

Interesting! Very interesting!!






Limbaugh
I'm surprised anyone would be surprised at CNN's handling of the debate. At least the R's showed up at CNN,which is better than the D's not showing up at Fox. Why wade into "enemy territory" if you don't have to.
Aside to Hal D: Know anything about this? H.R.760, The Filipino Veterans Act? You might want to take a look at it.

"Macho named people"??
Hey Hal!

This is a common refrain for you - referring to "macho named people" here on Townhall.

Who are your talking about?

Let's look at the list.

Anne, YLG, katy the mean old lady, sheepdog, Bob...

Are those "macho" to you???

Of course, there is USMC Lt. - with all evidence indicating that he is exactly what his handle reveals. How is that "macho"?

Of course, in the real world, we all know one USMC Lt. is worth a dozen ex-air force birdless colonel butt-kissing desk-jockeys.

Maybe THAT'S your beef. Maybe you are projecting your own feelings of inadequacy and are thus finding handles like "sheepdog" macho and menacing?

halD: Of course! Just like HELLary cried

"they're ganging up on me..."

Try really hard to think about this, halD, but look at their history... like back prior to the Crusades, and then the Barbary Pirates... go ahead, you can google it. It's okay.

This has nothing to do with how we've treated anybody..

And then you might want to take a look at Glenn Beck's site, or better yet, read his new book. It's okay, he's on CNN.


clyde
"I'm surprised anyone would be surprised at CNN's handling of the debate. At least the R's showed up at CNN,which is better than the D's not showing up at Fox. Why wade into "enemy territory" if you don't have to."

Perhaps they wanted to be on a news channel rather than an entertainment channel? (that was a joke)

"Aside to Hal D: Know anything about this? H.R.760, The Filipino Veterans Act? You might want to take a look at it. "

Heard about it for the first time at DNC meeting yesterday. What can you tell me about it? Seems they have a very legitamite claim from what I heard.

Primus 54
Maybe I should change my name, since apparently it is causing some confusion. Here a few suggestions:

GunTotin'Mama
SanAntoneBabe
Conservachick

Think anyone would say these are "macho names"??

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Hal Donohue writes:
"Then why are so many working to put D's in office (sic)"

Says who? You and HuffPo??

As evidence, are you going to post a link to yourself?

Bwahahahahaha!

CNN Is And Has Been

A joke.

I stipulate that ANYONE who hopes to be elected president of this country MUST be a superb demagogue. In light of that, these insipid "debate" shows are perfect foils for the emerging demagogues. It doesn't matter who asks the questions or what the questions are. What matters is how the over-schooled, under-educated, apathetic mass-man (who VOTES, don't you know) "feels" about any given candidate.

What a fiasco.

A debate for REAL people would not be conducted by journalists. There would be NO questions. There would be no journalists. (REPORTERS would be allowed in the last three rows.) There would be topical discussions driven by the candidates. The moderator would be a professor of rhetoric chosen by the debaters. Done properly, it would so thoroughly bore 90% of our fellow citizens (who VOTE, don't you know) that they might - with any luck - snooze right through the election.

Limbaugh
Well,Hal it seems they want to pay for this by cutting the special $2200.00 per month payment to vets who are less than 100% disabled but more than 60% disabled. Cutting benefits to our vets to pay for another country's vets? This was introduced by Rep. Bob Filner D-Ca. 51st District.

USMC Lt....
I am thrilled that he who must remain un-named twice has been banned. His disruption and personal attacks on you and your family had become extremely annoying for all here. I know it was worse for you.

Thank you for your service and commitment to your country. We love and pray for you and all the ones with you!

YLG
I vote for "SanAntoneBabe" for obvious reasons.

You're from San Antonio and you are a conservative, which by definition makes you a "babe".

Think Malkin, Derek, Ingraham, Coulter...

...as opposed to Reno, Albright, Pelosi, Rosie O'Donnell.

Just make sure if you change your handle to one of your choices, go a little easier on Hal.

You know how fragile the liberal ego is.

clyde
Would you please e-mail me any info? Is there a site? and then I will check on it? The why the issues was presented is they were US citizens at the time and were cheated out of what was owed them. That was it and it was a pitch from a guest

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Waaaa I'm a republican water carrier and I am going to write BS because I'm a big baby.

SHUT UP Please! Fox news is the RGN - Rudy Giuliani network and EVEN his other GOP candidates say so. Fox and all the right wing water carriers are unabashedly partisan and spread the right wing agenda and talking points. THERE ARE TOO MANY Examples to describe.

WHO cares if some partisan asked a Republican a question.

If the Republicans can't handle CNN than HOW are they going to handle Al Qaeda. ha ha ha ha.

You all are a bunch of whiny babies and that is what makes the GOP, Gay Old Party - with all the pedophiles, perverts, prostitute love-in, gay restroom sex having and serial adultery addicts. All the old GOP men bald with their trophy wives, what a joke.

OK I'll be nice. Let me give you a reality check. The GOP, your party that held all the power for the last 12 years, screwed the pooch, big time. The GOP will lose, deserves to lose and the American people still have the power. I know you're sad you don't have the power, but THANK GOD YOUR PARTY WILL NOT BE IN POWER IN THE FUTURE. Anything has to be better than Bush and his Admin of codependent enablers, the most embarrassing and disastrous President EVER. I'd rather the Pres get a hummer than start wars killing 10's of thousands and spending trillions needlessly.

Now Rove is on the talk shows saying the Dems Forced us into Iraq willy-nilly with out preparation and the white house was against it! MY God what total cajones. THIS IS THE KIND OF LYING THE PEOPLE HATE.

primus54
pick any name you like but a name says a lot about you many times. I would love to see only real names but that is just me. I suspect we would be surprised to see who is behind many of the names

Primus54
"Says who? You and HuffPo??

As evidence, are you going to post a link to yourself? "

Thanks I will start on that story right now. Actually I prefer you don't believe me just sit there nice and quiet well in the case of most people here whining and gnashing teeth

Folks/Clyde
I must to a meeting but I will return in several hours. Be well and enjoy the day

It's HowlD Doo Doo Time It's HowlD Doo
Doo Time. Dah Dah Dah Dah! Dah Dah
Yada Yada Yada Yada Yada.

Actually, Howl, a War on Religion is very familiar ground to Christians--the commiqueers have been out to get us for half a century now.
Though why rational people, including some Jews and sexperverts (granted their rationality might be questioned) find Sandnazis more Tolerant to them than Christians is a cognitive dissonance of some major proportions.

Christians just want to stand on their Constitutional Right to Free Exercise of Religion. The Islamanazis want to cut your head off Howl. Last time I checked even Bob Jones didn't want to do that.

Me now....

the big mick

Hal Donohue
Yeah... I'm all poised - teeth gnashing in rapt anticipation of your "story" - "facts" notwithstanding.

Like most moonbats, you get things 180 degrees out of phase.

It is liberals who are the whining, teeth gnashing, heart-bleeding victims.

That's why you identify with them so well.

Only in the world of liberalism could you rise to a level of supposed elitist intellectualism.

In the real world, it's called being "the worst of the best" or "the best of the worst".

Or, better know as "the cream of the crap".

But look on the bright side, that deep intellectual, "Jetpilot", is here to help! No need to feel alone.

Hal Donahue writes:
"I know a LOT of Republicans of all stripes are supporting Hillary."

HaHahahaaahah! There you go again!

You are such a liar.

thebigmick
Hmmm... just when I thought Hal (Howl - I love it!) was going to put me in my place by posting indisputable facts about the "droves" of Democrat supporting Republicans, he's got to go to a meeting!

This seems to often happen when he's just about to slam the door on us. He must be steaming that he can't stay here and show us all up.

Don't know how he gets through the day.

Primus; You forgot something.,,,
"Like most moonbats, you get things 180 degrees out of phase."

Once things get 180 degrees out of phase, they're all beaten up and twisted beyond any and all recognition.


Anne
"Once things get 180 degrees out of phase, they're all beaten up and twisted beyond any and all recognition."

True. But the moonbats call that state "clarity"!

Primus: True! And that's out of phase!
:-)







Enjoying the thread
For Anne, Primus, YLG, and clyde:

I just got here. I've had some good laughs reading your reactions to the debate and the lib posts.

Good point by clyde that at least the Republicans didn't run and hide because they were afraid they might have to answer something other than softball questions.

Good point by Anne that the libs couldn't get enough of Zogby when he showed Mrs. Clinton was ahead.

And YLG, I too vote for SanAntoneBabe. I can't help it. I'm a hopeless heterosexual.

HowlD Doo Doo time part 2
Bye Bye. Read this when you get back.

To follow up on HowlD's 12:04 and his assertion:

"those radical Islamists' main argument is that the west in general and the US in particular are making war on Islam and all aspects of the religion"

I offer the following rebuttal.

If they don't want to sell us their damn oil, then don't! We'll drill in Alaska or the Gulf or make Mexico the 51st State (at least that way they'd have only 2 Senators and have to pay for at least SOME of the Fed mandates) and get it that way. Why a Free American would give a damn what a Sandhumping Goatsucking Wraphead does in his Dark Age Prayer Meetings is beyond taking seriously.

But THEY take it seriously and in this they are smarter than their "useful idiots" the commiequeers and their symps (HowlD and Blowjob Pilot--got that from Chuck Yeager--perhaps?).

As to WHY The Sandnazis are smarter, see below.

the big mick

Stop acting a like a liberal
and be a man
We have Fox they have CNN
If you are going to cry about it then at least think about it.
Rudy, Romney, Thampson , Huckabee all have Politcal expertise why didnt they know that before hand. Why do not they exploit it. The Utube question were posted hours before the debate why did their camp not find that out.
Simple answer is they are all losers and a bunch a sissies. I wouldnt elect half of them to lead a cheerleading team

God mandates Capital punishment in the
Old testament
WOW that pretty scarry.
God does NOT mandate Capitol punishment in the OT. He allows for it and that only under certain circumstances. Such as 3 eye whittnesses. And if one eye whiteness is found to be a lier that one dies.
I teach Christians this all them time. To bad their Pastors dont.

The Real War
What's really got the SandhumpingGoatsuckingWrapheads peed is that when their women get a taste of McRibbs, Rock and Roll and Murphy Brown reruns they get uppity.

THAT is a direct threat to the power of the Immams, Mullahs, Shieks, Clan Chiefs and average wife beating Sandhumper on the Sandnazi Street.

See THEY get it that a threat to their Tyranny ANYwhere is a threat to THEM everywhere.

Unfortunately most Americans seem NOT to get it that a Threat to Liberty ANYwhere, even, or maybe most especially, under a burka, is a threat to it EVERYWHERE and a threat to THEIR liberties.

You either kill tyrants and proto wannabe tyrants or they enslave you.

And they know they either destroy us, or sooner or later their women are going to break FREE!

It's 1859 and this is a War to free the Sandnazi Slaves. I wouldn't call Howl, BlowJet and the commiequeers abolitionists, would you? So what does that make em? Maybe we should send em complimentary Confederate Battle Flags.

the big mick

Debate
First mistake was letting CNN air the debate. They should have expected something like this. I am surprised they answered questions aboutimmigration. All the Dems do is say they support "comprehensive immigration" translated amnesty and they don't get booed. I find it hare to believe that all Dems are for amnesty since 85 %of the county voted against it. So where are they? After John McCain said we need to have compassion for the illegals of course bringing up "the children" he dropped to the bottom. He can just pack his bags and go home. Or go over and hang onto Bill Clintons coattail the same way Hillary is doing. It seemed to me McCain for some reason was forced to do this. He is not dumb enough to not know that amnesty leads to open borders and the NAU.
They are so worried about "the childen" but they stop the fence from being built when drugs that "the children" get are being broughtacross the border along with terrorists.
As for being racist what is more racist than exploiting illegals for low wages for years?

Squeeker of Shoomth
Well if the "Whiteness lier"....

[I don't usually throw stones at typos and spelling because I am a notorious offender and still expect my meaning to triumph over my missing spell check--but this was TOO GOOD a Freudian (sp?) slip to pass up!]

...if the "whiteness lier" (is that what you call a Non-semetic adulterer?) DIES (not CAN be but IS) isn't that a MANDATED Capital Punishment?

Can you say "deconstructing oneself"?

As to the NT, I take Romans 13 at Face Value where it says Governments "bear the sword" in order to cut down--pun intended--on evildoing.

A Sword is designed to kill people and "they do not bear it in vain."

But, I believe you don't execute people for committing certain crimes-----you execute them for BEING THE KIND OF PEOPLE who commit certain crimes.

the big mick

wiseone: Thanks. ;-)
It's always fun here! :-)



last one
The real issue on the debate is that CNN SHOULD have know! This is Rathergate reprise! Either you hold CNN accountable for Cheating, Lying, and Propaganda, or you hold them accountable for Incompetence (sp?). Either way a bunch of staffers and several producers should lose their jobs and be blacklisted from Journalism forever.

Letting them skate or hollaring "everybody does it" is giving in to Nazilike Propaganda Tactics from the commiequeers. To hell with that.

I'd actually prefer to see the lying, cheating, newsnazi bastids burned alive, but since I can't even see them shot for treason I'll settle for seeing them fired and blacklisted.

the big mick

"incompetence" is the spelling
No "news" organization should endorse any candidate excepting in its ed. pages or on-air commentary, spec. noted as such.

The NYYimes, LATimes, all the MSM network news, etc. blatantly shill for Democrats of all sizes, categories, and colors. The NYTimes is paying in huge losses in readership, drastically curtailed adsales, a stockholders' revolt, and the unfortunate degradation of reputation for what was once the greatest newspaper in the world.

The lib. press AND the Dem. candidates should note NO ONE is seeing the theatrical movie releases of the rabidly anti-war movies from de Palma's Redacted to Reese Witherspoon's Rendition to Robert Redford/Tom Cruise/Meryl Streep's Lions and Lambs. Some of the anti-war films will not make their production costs. Cruise has not been in such a low-drawing movie since he was a teenager.

The lack of audience for these films with high-powered casts and crews should be a national warninhg to Pelosi and Reid, Clinton and Obama, etc. that the public does not want anti-war rant shoved down their throats and that the Daily Krap and movealong.org's do not represent anywhere near America's real feelings on foreign policy.

If the Reps. had brains, they would use this situation to advantage.

Primus 54, wiseone
OK, point taken.

I shall work on an alter ego.....

renny: You're absolutely correct.

It's been so disheartening to see the Republicans just let one opportunity after another go by the way.

But, Bernie Goldberg was so right when he titled his book, "Crazies To The Left of Me, Wimps To The Right...."

And I'm not even saying that we have to get down and dirty... just use what's there. Ugh!



renny
thanks for the spell check and I agree. Medved has pointed out for years that Hellywood pursues their commiequeer agenda to their own financial cost. Thus the propaganda is intentional.
Personally I think Hellywood went commiequeer in the 30's and was only Pro-WWII cause it helped Uncle Joe. I think the never found parts of the A-bomb spy network were Hellywood commies and I think they helped get rid of McCarthy before he finished exposing them. I think those commiequeer networks still exist in Hellywood.

But I also think THE issue on which the GOPers can win is the one where they triangulate Hitlery on the wrong side of 70% of the electorate--Immigration.

If the GOPers refuse to run on it then we can be sure they are and have been Mexamericanada traitors who have been scamming real conservatives for decades.

the big mick

thebigmick: "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!"

Heaven knows, I'm no pundit or political strategist, but I do believe that the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION issue will be, if the "the" determining factor, at least a "big" factor when it gets down to the wire.



Limbaugh
Hal, I'm not certain I can make this link, so here is 2 places I went.



http//www.timesgazette.com/main.asp? SectionId=1+subsectionID=1+articleID=147067

http://www.washingtonwatch.com

renny
Too true.

These anti-war movies have become a drain without end in the Hollywood pocket. But since most of Hollywood is ensconced in a pretty glass bubble, they tend to make movies to satisfy their own fallacies concerning the state of the country,and so you end up with crudola like "Jarhead", "The Kingdom", and "Lions for Lambs".

And then you have movies like "Bella", that are criticized by movie critics as being "out of touch with reality". Who is really out of touch???

USMC Lt.: FYI, you know who got back on!
.

And, USMC Lt. You'd better email me! :-)
.

USMC Lt.:With halD, it's just variations

on the same ol' same ol'

Nothing new with him.

How are you? What's this I hear about ....???



USMC Lt.
No,no, your Italian is fine. I just laughed because onceamarine and I almost always type in Spanish, AGZ does it in German, and now you are bringing Italian into the MULTICULTURALISM of TH!! Who says we discriminate here??!!

Spero che stiate facendobene oggi. Ora che Roberto e andato, sono sicuro che potete godersi di piu.

CNN
Well said David! I had the impression throughout the debates the questions were contrived and planted.

Interesting the Dems would not debate on Fox.

USMC Lt.
Not bad, my friend, I and I hope so too.

No posso credere che sia restituito. Forse e come l'erpete. Non va mai via.

Buona Notte, ed il Dio benedicono.

GOODBYE TV ~ INTERNET FOREVER
The irony of this entire fiasco is that CNN teamed up with YouTube. In this dinosaurs dance CNN is the dino experiencing death throws gasps. Television, as we have known it, from antenna TV to multi-channel cable does not realize the dramatic changes taking place with TiVo and the Internet. Right now I in NYC listening to classical music from another part of the world and will simultaneously get basketball scores from my Alma Matre in Minnesota and rhen see how the Springboks are doing in Rugby.

Do you know you can get Jack Webb Dragnet, the Cisco Kid in color, and a myriad of other classic TV shows (Honeymooners, Desi & Lucy and early runs of "24") on DVD; ergo, goodbye Desperate Housewives and the rest of contemporary TV junk. Give the cast to many of the writers of this rehashed junk "Will Work For Food!" signs as Jay Leno goes by driving his restored pre-World War One PierceArrow.

I have been listening to excerpts from La Boheme, Tosca, Aida sung by some of the greatest tenors and sopranos much more enjoyable then the HBO Sopranos which was just a poor rewrite iof the 1950’s Gangbusters Series.

Primus54
"Only in the world of liberalism could you rise to a level of supposed elitist intellectualism."

LOL, me? You even thinking that shows how out there You are, why out there. I am just a typical guy who will not accept your nonsense anymore. Enjoy the dustbin of history....

clyde
"Hal, I'm not certain I can make this link, so here is 2 places I went. "

I will ask what the heck is going on with this first thing on Monday. Like I said I never even heard of the issue now I get hit with it from the left and the right. Thank you for the info

thebigmick
If Reps. just emphasized English as an official national language and solutions to the illegals, they could take 85% of the vote, if polls can be believe, even polls among Hispanics/Latinos.

The MSM would go "bigot/racist" nuts, just as they will if Hillary is nom.d--only sexists won't vote for her--or if Obama gets the nod--only racists won't vote for him.

Ergo, the GOP, which can't win with the MSM anyway, should take the bit between its teeth and go for the big issues: English and immigration. They are winners across the spectrum.

halD isn't as well informed as he

thought he was... Ha Ha Ha Ha...

"Like I said I never even heard of the issue now I get hit with it from the left and the right."

What else is he either "ill" or "un" informed about???












Anne
"What else is he either "ill" or "un" informed about??? "

I absolutely know that I do not know a lot of things that is why I always try to learn and consider...

renny
"Ergo, the GOP, which can't win with the MSM anyway, should take the bit between its teeth and go for the big issues: English and immigration. They are winners across the spectrum. "

Oh please I certainly hope they follow your advice

I'll stop when
I'll stop supporting waterboarding when the enemy stops executing our prisioners by decapitation with swords.

Coward jmag
"I'll stop supporting waterboarding when the enemy stops executing our prisioners by decapitation with swords. "
\
Why? Please explain? Also, please tell me why after 200 plus years NOW this country needs to torture prisoners?

I wager you claim to be a christian too LOL

The Left is Evil
The Big Mick,

You are very interesting and insightful.

The skin-head of CNN resembles Frankenstein. The woman candidate reminds us of Jezebel. Elephant legs signifiy wickedness. She's been bought by Commies.

The Bible uses the "frog" to descrbe the demons that dominate the noisy main stream media causing "public nuisance". The Bible also uses the "beast out of the sea" that looks like a leopard with legs of the bear to describe "socialism" of German Nazis and Soviets; uses the "beast out of the earth" that is a non-descript but has horns like a lamb and speaks like a dragon to describe Chicom.

It may be of help to have a proper perspective of the current world situation if you and the righteous right would review my article "Behold, 666 is here" at http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/chow051007.htm

"The fear of the Lord is to hate evil"






Charles
I knew you were extreme but I didn't know you were a fruitcake. Thank you for the heads up

Anne & Should you still be up
I see your point and agree. I say Immigration because I'm thinking broader. Stopping the Reconquista Invasion, Sealing the Border, Deporting all Aliens here illegally, and Prison for those Hiring Illegals. (A kind of Cultural Love Canal approach to Business--polluters even cultural ones should be jailed if not shot.)

And yes English First and English only. Nobody put up signs in Gaelic to welcome my Ancestors.

And now to Charles and HowlD Doo Doo

the big mick

Charles and HowlD Doo Doo
Charles,
your interpretation intrigues me. I am fairly familiar with Revelation and have done in depth studies on Daniel twice. The idea of levels of interpretation and fulfillment is, of course, very valid and I had never thought of, or seen in other commentaries, the idea of Modern Nation States and ECONOMIC SYSTEMS being represented.

The latter is especially intriguing.

Which says unkind things about YOU HalD because someone with your supposed intellect should at least ask what someone means before they call them a fruitcake!

The idea that the Old Testament Prophets, especially Daniel, predicted the rise of Persia, Alexander, and Rome centuries before has merit even if you take the modern approach and date them near the events and call it a lucky guess!
Surely a person who claims education ought to have heard at least a little about that if only as Biblical Allusions in Literature.

And any educated person ought to be at least a bit familiar with the Biblical concept that Fulfilled Prophecy, as modeled by Jesus, has an off center not quite what we expected Tone to it.
The whole Jewish rejection of the Messiah conflict for Pete's sake.

Taking both of those into consideration, Charlie may be Out There, but it is a conceivably valid and interesting Out There.

That's what they said about Galileo and Einstein and Hawking too, HalD!

the big mick

Hal Doofus writes
I wager you claim to be a christian too LOL

I wager you claim to be a truth teller too, LOL. And we know you aren't.

Hal Doofus, also, writes:

I knew you were extreme but I didn't know you were a fruitcake. Thank you for the heads up

When it comes to extreme you and your heroes the Backstabbing Boys, Kerry and Murtha, and your heroine Hillary, make Karl Marx look absolutely conservative.

Poor Blue Hal!!
I love it when Morons like you Squeeze it so hard it turns blue,relax and let go it will last longer.USMC lt,I like to get a rise from some folks with less than a sence of humor,and it dose not take much for the real issues to rise to the top,and the real conservatives will have to rise up and push the pretenders and Libs aside before the swirling sound you hear will be this great nation going down the Toilet.SEMPER FI

Jmaag and HalD doo doo
Don't know about NEED to Torture Sandnazis, HalD, but I'm down with SHOULD! Ya see I don't believe in the validity of False Moral Equivalences. The Sandnazis are not Lawful Combatants under the Laws of War, wear no uniforms, have no ID's, follow no Conventions and are thus entitled to NO protection, NONE! They are not even entitled to a fair trial and honorable hanging like British Major Andre of the Benedict Arnold incident.

They are Barbarians bent on enslaving the World. Since they are bent of destroying my Rights, THEY are entitled to no rights at all and, like all Tyrants, deserve only a quick and most grusome death--to encourage other proto-tyrants to back off and let people be.

I want them stuffed with Chitlins BEFORE they are waterboarded.

To me they are in the same category as Rabid Dogs and this by their own Dark Age Cultural choice. I don't intend to ever let em in the yard with my kids.

And I don't call myself a Christian, I AM one.
I acknowledge my attitude may be a failure of Charity. I'll take my chances and continue to pray for my enemies that they come to a saving knowledge of the Truth, that their evil deeds be Frustrated by the Sovereignty of the Almighty and that their innocent victims and slaves be protected and freed.

And that their "useful idiot" symps would have their counsels brought to naught as well.

Take that anyway you please HalD.

Those who refuse to Confront Evil enable evil. I figure we are tasked with both Proactive Deeds of Compassion and Pro-active Deeds of Justice.

The Ragheads are no different from Hitler and Tojo and Company, to let such slide is a great evil, as we can see from history. Far less evil to skotch them quick, early, and totally.


the big mick

last to HalDdoodoo
Nighty night, but ponder this, oh Moral Sage:

If you could have prevented the Civil War AND freed the slaves AND saved the Union by torturing the guy who went on the Found the KKK would that have been a legitmate act?

By Punishing his evil, albeit in advance, (but remember the ATTITUDE, the MIND SET, the INTENT was there before hand) you avert very great evil and suffering and establish Justice and Liberty. Is that a Trade worth making? Or does your moral relativism and moral equivalence extend to enabling Racists?

Same with Hitler and Tojo. You save millions of lives, avert the Holocaust (sp?) maybe free millions. All you got to do is Torture a couple of Racist Psychotic Evil bastids bent on enslaving the WORLD! THEY get the Justice they deserve, the World is spared from Great Evil. Worth the price HalD?

So tell me again why I shouldn't stuff the Chief Raghead with chitlins and waterboard him?


the big mick

Good Debate, Good Preop and New Audience
If you can't stand the heat>>>> What wonderful preperation for the questtion the George Sorros Disciples/Employees in the Democratic Party will be fielding.. I wish james Carville would moderate the dabate ( as much as Ann Coulter should moderate a debate of Democrats) You never get converts by preaching to the choir. The red state blue state differential is a small percent. The Republican had an opportunity to get a liberal audience, possible swing voters and independants, What an opportunity! Except for the Mit-Rudy sparing, the debate was excellent.. I really enjoyed Tancredo, Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter. One of the three will get my vote.. I alsoliked Sen McCain but the McCain- Feingold- Sorros bill precludes my vote. It was great to see real conservatism on what you call a liberal media? For once CNN was fair and Balanced. Mike Guy

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