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Tuesday, October 16, 2007
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
An Egregiously Reckless Resolution
by David Limbaugh
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Why now, of all possible critical moments, are congressional Democrats insisting on passing a resolution guaranteed to offend Turkey, our vital ally in the Iraq War, by denouncing the Ottoman Empire's century-old massacre of Armenians as a "genocide"?

Nancy Pelosi and her cohorts have been warned that Turkey will be deeply offended by the move and may even take punitive action against us by withdrawing their permission for us to use Incirlik Air Base, through which well more than half of our air cargo passes in route to supply our troops in Iraq. Human Events editor Jed Babbin reports that some 95 percent of the new MRAP (mine-resistant, ambush protected) vehicles, designed to save our troops' lives, pass through Incirlik. Also as a result, Turkey might decide to attack Kurdish terrorist forces against our strong urging not to do so.

What on earth are Democrats trying to pull here? They are the same people that barely blanch when Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust. It's not like we need to worry about offending Iran, a charter member of the Axis of Evil and by last count a sworn enemy of the United States, actively working to defeat us in Iraq.

Democrats constantly castigate President Bush for alienating the international community by "going it alone." Their presidential candidates are united in promising that if their party recaptures the White House, they'll restore sound relations with foreign nations. In a recent speech, the irrepressibly garrulous Bill Clinton stressed that this would be a major theme in the next Clinton co-presidency.

But are Democratic Party leaders, who claim to be such staunch supporters of our troops, concerned about jeopardizing their indispensable supply lines? Are they the slightest bit nervous that in response to a House committee vote on this resolution, Turkey has already recalled its ambassador, Nabi Sensoy, for consultation?

Apparently not. When a seemingly incredulous Brit Hume questioned House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer about the resolution considering the high stakes involved, Hoyer cavalierly responded, "Turkey's help to us is vital, but more vital is the United States' help to Turkey." In other words, Turkey needs us more than we need them -- presumably implying Turkey wouldn't dare cut off our supply lines.

But Turkey has denied our troops access before -- as recently as 2003. More than that, this idea that other countries need us more than we need them could be said about almost any allies Democrats complain the Bush administration has alienated. What if President Bush had responded to Democratic complaints in the same high-handed manner Democrats are exhibiting today, saying, "Our allies need us more than we need them?"

Given that there is nothing to be gained and so much to be lost by the proposed congressional resolution, how can we not be suspect, as Jed Babbin implies, that congressional Democrats might be trying to effect a withdrawal of our troops from Iraq indirectly? Is this suspicion really far-fetched?

They've tried similar ploys, like a "dwell-time" amendment attached to the Defense policy bill that would have mandated that troops have as much time at home between deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan as they had in those countries. This would have virtually guaranteed we didn't have enough manpower to complete the mission -- one of several "slow bleed" tactics advanced by Democrats to undermine our prosecution of the war.

In that case, they at least have the cover of arguing that they are forcing longer stateside missions on behalf of the troops. Their motive there was suspicious but at least ambiguous. But there is no upside to their proposed resolution designed to offend Turkey. None.

I can think of only one other possible explanation for the Democrats' gratuitous insult of our vital ally during time of war. Their worldview often compels them to pursue actions driven by their so-called good intentions -- even when those actions are sure to result in adverse consequences to their intended beneficiaries, such as with promoting expansive welfare, affirmative action, nationalized health care, minimum wage laws, gun control and radical environmental measures, or opposing tax cuts and school choice.

But in the unlikely event that the Democrats' motive isn't to undercut our mission in Iraq, it might as well be -- and they ought to be held accountable just as sternly as if it were. To the extent the resolution imperils American troops, it is egregiously reckless and indefensible at all levels.

This must not pass without loud and fierce opposition. President Bush and Republican congressional representatives, along with every conservative commentator in this nation, should mobilize to expose the Democrats' proposed course of action as an outrageous assault on our fighting forces -- not to score political points but to deter these misguided renegades from endangering our troops.

This appalling stunt must not be permitted to proceed.

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Good article on a subject
Incredibly STUPID.

Not just stupid
but treachery. Words cannot convey the deep contempt I have for these anti American goons.
Lets tell it like it is, these marxist thugs hate our military; they are about to crown Hillary queen when it's a known fact' Bill loathed/loathes the military and she treated them
like lackeys when she ruled the W.H., demanding
they don't wear their uniforms when in attendance to their "betters," This insult to Turkey is just one of many, they don't care how many of our military get killed or wounded as long as it fits their agenda. I'd go so far as to say this latest move says they want as many killed and maimed as possible to gain as much
political capital going into the election as they can. As Rush says, they are invested in defeat.

More accurately,
Leftists are quite willing to sacrifice the welfare and security of the citizens of this country in exchange for power.

A Democratic
led congress, riding on Kerry's war cry "We can do better!" Desperate to look moral, they dredge up a 100 year old atrocity. What kind of inane impulse can this possibly come from, save a treasonous "end-around" to make Bush look bad and starve our troops. Not to be redundant, but a dead dog for 2008 would be a better choice than a Democrat.

turkey

Turkey, like all the ME countries, except Israel thought invading Iraq was a very stupid thing, and would bring instability to the region. Turkey wouldn't even let us go through them in the Iraq war. So, who is the really, really, big offender in making Turkey angry? BUSH This fact can be easily verified at the tip of ones fingers on google. Will anyone care? I doubt it, its more fun to trash American loving democrats who have to be the grown ups.

Screw Turkey, and the Turks.
Screw Turkey, they just launched 450 artillery shells into n. Iraq against are wishes. If they were such a great ally, why are they trying to stir up hostility in the one peaceful part Iraq. Is that not "Egregiously Reckless". And why are there like 4 columnist with practically identicle articles on this subject. Are these really your guys opinions, or are you issued your opinions when you punch in, in the morning.

http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,152239,00.html

USMC Lt.
"In 2000, 56% of Turks reported in polls that they had a favorable view of the United States. In 2005 that statistic had fallen to 12%. I shudder to think what it is now."

I'm not lying. Turkey isn't happy with the situation in Kurdestan at all.

".., the US gave the Kurdistan Regional Authority control over the Kirkuk police force and unleashed Kurdish troops on the Turkmen city of Tal Afar. (The Turks look on Iraq's 800,000 Turkmen as little brethren, over whom they feel protective, and don't want them dominated by Kurds).

"Then the Kurdistan Regional Authority gave safe haven to 3,000 to 5,000 Kurdish guerrillas from eastern Anatolia in Turkey who have been killing Turks and blowing up things, reviving violence that had subsided in the early zeroes. Despite the US military occupation of Iraq, Washington has done nothing to stop what Turkey sees as terrorists from going over the border into Turkey and killing Turks. Turkish intelligence is convinced that the camps in Iraqi Kurdistan are key to weapons provision for the PKK, and that funding is coming from Kurdish small businessmen in Western Europe."

USMC Lt.
I do think, though, the dems could very easily be wrong in taking up this condemnation, now. You are right, it could hurt our supply lines and if it did endanger our troops, then they should be ashamed. The dems who brought up the resolution are representatives of the largest Armenian population in the US, and they feel, of course very strongly about this, so I don't, as you do, think they are out to harm the situation, but may be too short sighted. Thanks for your service!

If it isn't one thing it's the other
Can't stir up anti-Pakistan sentiment here so let's get the Turks PO'd? Anything to subvert the war esp. when it appears the surge is working. God, forbid there is a stable Iraq (to a Democrat)! When will the Democrats learn to S.T.F.U.? Go back to crying over waterboarding or loss of terrorists "Constitutional Rights"...

Calculated
Somewhere deep in the Dem campaign strategies, I bet there is is a calculation of how many votes every dead American soldier means to them. The Dems have staked their whole election campaign on us losing the war. They have admitted it. Now that things seem to be going more our way, they just have to see to it that more soldiers get killed. I wonder how many votes they figure on per dead US soldier?

This goes way beyond politics. It's pure evil.

Everybody is missing the point!!!!
The truth is that one of the worst atrocities in recent history has been overlooked by much of the world. Did genocide happen? That's what this is all about! The REASONS for this resolution are one million Armenians murdered just because of their race. Shouldn't that be the argument here? Did Limbaugh even mention that in his article? No.

Now, does this hurt our relations with Turkey? Yes. Is this bad timing and does it have the potential to hurt our troops? Yes. In the end, will it? No. We have too much diplomatic muscle.

Does this give recognition to something that we need to make sure never happens again? Does this finally expose the truth? The answer is a resounding YES.

Listen, I'm as conservative as it gets. I can't stand Pelosi and others who would make this country a socialist state. The democratic wing of the democratic party is dangerous. Having said that, I don't see why this needs to be a partisan issue. It's the truth, it happened, one million Armenians were slaughtered by the Ottoman Turks. Long lasting truth is worth temporary anger by an ally.

The bottom line is that Turkey does need us as an ally and our political muscle can certainly overcome the minimal blowback that the Turks will end up throwing our way. They are just trying to act like it's a big deal but in the end it won't be.

USMC Lt.
You're spot on.

Red Nanny P-Lousy's Kongress has the lowest approval rating in US history! Freezer money jefferson is still free, ABSCAM Murtha is being used by our fellow Devil Dogs, and her pal Dianne "MILCON" Feinstein is still passing military contracts to her husband's companies...and these idiots are worried about something that happened 90 YEARS ago!

I mean REALLY! Red Nany was only a year old then!

BTW ALL, check my blog (click on my handle) for a KICK A** series, as well as how the Brits punked THE GOREACLE!

impact
My friend, liberals ARE EVIL.

They've embraced every dictator, tyrant, and genocidal maniac that's come down the pike. Now they'd like to start a problem in Northern Iraq for us, get US troops killed, wreck relations with Turkey that go back 80+ years, instead of doing what needs to be done at home, i.e., try and convict Freezer Money Jefferson, tax cuts, etc.

Just Some Dude
I can't believe you're as stupid as you appear.

We're at war. Turkey is our ally. Only a drooling moron would punch an ally in the face when said ally is providing the base through which half of our supplies flow.

Ask yourself why Pilosi is picking this particular time to press this absurd resolution through the house instead of before or after the war. Why THIS atrocity which happened a hundred years ago? Why not the present atrocity still going on in Darfur, or the Rwandan massacre, or the hundreds of millions of people massacred in Russia by Stalin, the million plus by Saddam Hussein or the millions killed in Cambodia by Pol Pot?

It's simple. Pilosi and the rest of the obscene party called the Democrat Party want to do everything possible to undermine the war effort in their fanatical quest for political power.

The tragedy is that there are people like you who are apparently too dense to understand the significance of the insult, not just to Turkey, but to the American soldiers who'll suffer even more at the hands of that hideous fool heading the House Of Representatives.

Bob C
Pretty well wraps the whole thing up......Anybody who is capable of, and prepared to undertake a genuine analysis of this matter can ONLY arrive at the same conclusions. However, logic means nothing to liberals.

Why now,
"...of all possible critical moments, are congressional Democrats insisting on passing a resolution guaranteed to offend Turkey, our vital ally in the Iraq War, by denouncing the Ottoman Empire's century-old massacre of Armenians as a "genocide"?"

Because they're dimwits.


Limbaugh is wrong about one thing...

It's not "Nancy Pelosi and her cohorts..." it's Nancy Pelosi and her gang of thugs!

Now that we have THAT cleared up, we can talk about who and what is in charge on The Hill, and exactly how stupid and DANGEROUS they really are.

Has someone told them that their DISAPPROVAL RATING is 89%?



well duhhh
"How can we not be suspect, as Jeb Babbin implies, that congressional Democrats might be trying to effect a withdrawal of our troops from Iraq indirectly? Is this suspicion really far-fetched?"

Isn't it obvious that's why they did it? If that is not the reason, then what, pray tell, is the reason? The answer, of course, is incredibly obvious - there is no other possible explanation for this course of action, but even worse is the simple question: why doesn't the White House DO SOMETHING instead of just standing there and letting these traitors run all over them?

It's simple
Every Liberal believes that they're morally superior to everyone else. Condemning Turkey has probably been on their "to do" list for a long time and it just got to the top of the queue at this time.

Uncle Max: Actually, the WH has been

on it.

Both Bush and Rice, etc., have been devoting a lot of time to this... according to a few other articles.

Gee, I'm really glad they don't have other important things to deal with like Iraq, Iran, and the Islamofacsists, or anything!!!






This is all part of the Dhimmi pattern
The Dems have been self destructive since LBJ. Just when they appear to be poised for a sweep in 2008, they can be counted on to overreach. The problem is that they consistently underestimate the American voter, which they view as dimwits. Just like the hilarious furor over Rush, they cannot imagine that the unwashed masses can figure out their game.

They'll see, once again, that Americans can see right through them and their shoddy political games.

Just for the record
and they can come and take me away right now, if these actions directly, or inderectly affect my nephew, who is in Iraq at this time, war will be declared from me, to these weak kneed cowards on the left. There will be no end to my madness in retaliation to these gutless wonders. I am now on the record.

I can't even sign-off in fun right now. They have pushed my buttons for the last time.

Bob_C
Bingo.

Anything to help the enemy. That's our fifth column liberals for you!

Where's Sulla when we need him?

GunnyG,
Good morning. Did I hear you say that the dastardly dude from Louisiana, Jefferson of cold money fame, is still allowed to function freely in congress? I've been sort of ignoring D.C. of late. You mean the exciteable folks in congress haven't sent him packing?

UncleMax
"why doesn't the White House DO SOMETHING instead of just standing there and letting these traitors run all over them?"

Bush has been letting that happen since day one. He needs to grow a pair bad.

gretske: You're right....

"The Dems have been self destructive since LBJ."

Which is perfectly okay with me.

The problem is, however, they're dragging the rest of us right along with them. It's one thing when they are destroying their party, but it's totally different when they're willing to destroy our country doing it.



Oh Taft
The only reason the Democrat Party is doing this is to undermine the war in Iraq.

This resolution is meaningless. Turkey upset about Kurdistan? Did they recall their ambassador over that? No.

Your Democrat Party congress has the lowest approval rating in years. What happened to all of the 2006 post election hubris of San Fran Nan?

Your Democrat Party can't get enough votes together to order lunch when its important but they can do this.

Chopper John
No, and I believe the idiot is still sitting on the committee he was a part of. I'm still surprised that Freezer Money Jefferson isn't being charged for the cost of diverting that Nat Guard convoy to his house to evac his personal belongings while people suffered.

That's liberalism for ya!

Check my blog for MORE on the perfidy of liberals, OH, and The Goreacle getting BI0TCH slapped!

Jorge Needs To Take Charge
Jorge W. needs to take charge. (Not likely)
His justice department lets people like Berger, Jefferson, Murtha, Boxer (contracts to her husband) skate while Hernandez, Compeon and Ramos rot in prison. Time to recognize evil and prosecute it. Rarely, can W even muster a few strong words. American lives have been lost by the dummycrats helping the morale of the enemy and telling them just hang on until they get in power and we will surrender.
Time to stop playing nice.

More liberal stupidity
RINO Arnuld signs AB 1471 which means gun sellers by 2010 will have to use "microstamping" technology on every semiautomatic pistol they sell.

BTW, a criminal can remove that stamp with a file in under a few minutes time.

RINO Wimpinator wants to hear from you on this. He's gonna tell on us to his uncle Chappaquiddick Teddy!

http://govnews.ca.gov/govmail/webmail.php

I think that ALL gun manufacturers should abandon Mexifornia and that includes Law Enforcement as well. Let them drown in crime.

Brian...move out of there.

http://www.newsmax.com/us/California_gun_control/2007/10/15 /40907.html

Turkey/Iranian Alliance
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/?s=al&promo_code=3B70-1

Turkey is about as solid an ally as Pakistan.
While the resolution isn't timely considering the supply line issue, it is absolutely true that Turkey committed genocide against Armenians. Additionally, Turkey has oppressed and murdered its Kurdish population for decades, which led to the PKK separatist movement. The PKK has attempted to negotiate with Turkey many times, only to find their leaders either murdered or imprisoned.


What this is akin to
Condemning:
(1) TODAY's German government for crimes of Hitler or the Kaisers
(2) current Italian government for Mussolini's atrocities (government in that country has changed so many times, it lost any connexion with Mussolini sometime ago)

To no surprise, the dumbocrats have always failed to condemn:
(1) Nicaragua's (Sandinista) atrocities against Miskito
(2) Iran's atrocities against Kurds, Baha'is, ...
(3) Sudan's atrocities both against south Sudan (majority nominal Christian or animist) and Darfur (gross-majority Muslim African, as opposed to Muslim Arab in Khartoum)
(4) Support for such atrocities from countries like Saudi Arabia, ...

Traitors ....
but I'll bet they will be the winning ticket in the future and they are betting on the same thing. What does that say about the state of the nation?

Military dog lover
Thank you for your comments about the Lt Col and Gunny. You just confirmed to rest of us what we have known about the troop supporting dems. People like you don't deserve the freedoms provided by the military or for that matter the police or fire fighters. There will come a time when you and your ilk will be wishing there was a person like the Lt Col and Gunny to stand between you and those savages who would behead you for fun and tape the whole episode. Why don't you & your dog climb on a float in the gay pride parade I'm sure there is one for your kind. After all NAMBLA has one.

AWWW MilLovDog
Did someone pick on you?

Morning Shaggy
I see your still as grumpy as ever! Maybe Hal can toss you a few biscuits this morning and calm you down some. Course he'll have to put about 9 tranquilizers in em. Have a nice day grumpy!


SSGt
Maybe Hal will toss him a spluge burger.

Shaggy

I often lick myself raw

millovdogg
OK all of you other posters out there LISTEN UP!!!
DO NOT respomd to this turd. It is exactly what he wants. It will do no good. It will serve no purpose other than to give him the attention he wants and to distract us from reality.
I know I dont run this site or anything else. But If any of you engage him I will jump on your as*. Yea, it is your right to do so if you want. But it is also my right to jump on you if you do.
DO NOT ENGAGE. IGNORING HIM WILL HURT HIM WORSE THAN ANY WORDS WE COULD SEND.
If I could legally get away with it, I would with NO moral problems put a bullet in his head.

MLD
Not my mother, YOUR mother. And for a measly 50 cents at that.

In fact, I coulda been your daddy except that gorilla beat me over the fence.

Shaggy.

I have fleas and the mange.

Guns
Shaggy writes:
"That might explain you're bad mood..."

Your bad mood? YOUR BAD MOOD? Boy is that calling the kettle black?

Hal D: Shaggy, do you have my skivvies again?

UncleB
I hear ya, I just feel bad for not beating that gorilla over the fence.

Shaggy (MLD):

Hal leads me on a leash and I like it.

Turkey
Many of you paint the democrats as so terrible and you can't see the stick in your own eye. The dems got Petraues his job and kicked "stuff happens" but out. The dems give the military all the medical, financial, and weapon support they can. They try to get the troops time home with their families, and time off for their children to not fear every time the door bell rings. The ones who pushed the California legislature weren't evil dems but Armenians who know genocide and know that in Turkey its not even mentioned in text books.

Incredible
that Pelosi says "no problem, its about the Ottoman Empire", not about the current military secular regime. This in face of the regime's actual statements says they are very upset. What is wrong with this women. She is becoming a very devisive ineffectual leader even in the eyes of the dems.

I know
who MLD is in real life.

the PHONY SOLDIER!

Jesse Adam Al-Zaid

He has to be, he whines about us meanies over here like a little girl.

Hey moondog, how was that 44 days on active-duty!?

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!


HalD

C'Mon Shaggy, take the bone, TAKE IT!

GunnyG
Gettin kinda radical this morning. There are just some things that we don't need to waste bandwidth on.......
Roberta Roberta beingthe submissive he/she/it is, he/she/it likes the spiked collar to go with the leash.

Sanchez
Did y'all see the clip of Gen Sanchez slamming the press for undermining and endangering the military?

Taft
"The dems give the military all the medical, financial, and weapon support they can."

Only because if they didn't, it would be the end of them in America. Period. BTW, I was on active-duty in 1979 when Carter was really making sure we got everything we needed. Then came Bubba. We got h0m0s and no dough because he needed it for the "peace" Dividend.

Nice spin though.

HalD

See Robert Robert Shaggy likes it. (giggles)

GunnyG
Since 9/11 tell something they didn't give. No spin. And if blunders make one a traitor, well disbanding the Iraqi army after the invasion, and putting 200,000 well trained insurgents into the streets is a dozy.

UncleB
I saw them but Sanchez is catching h8ll from the troops over his remarks! He could have spoke up but never did. He probably will join another Perfumed Prince (Weasley Clark) on the campaign trail.

Robert Robert

Shaggy likes to grab the milk bones from between my...

UncleB
I saw that. Don't hear much of it in the MSM, though. Go figure that one out


Roberto: Hal, have you seen the clippers? Its time for your trim.

Timing
The Republican House was set to pass this resolution when Clinton was Pres. He called Denny Hastert and asked him not to bring this to the floor because it would interfere with Clinton's terror fighting operations. Hmmmmmm. And, this could have been done anytime during the last 90 years, and under democrap controlled congresses and was intensely lobbied for by the Armenians, but the devilcrats would never do it! Why now? The answer is obvious. The current house majority is criminal and traitorous and will stop at nothing.

Gunny, SSGT, UncleB, et al.
Good morning, all! I see the rabid rat terrier is out... I hope y'all's day goes better than his. He sounds like he's in a bad mood.

Gunny: Thanks for the blog. Will forward to hubby for his viewing pleasure.

SSGT: About your 7:32 AM post, I'm right there with you. There comes a time when turning the other cheek just gets you slapped again. I'm soooo done with that, and I'm willing to fight.

UncleB: So, I was just a flash in the pan, huh? That's OK. mrs paddy IS a great gal!

Robert
Phony soldiers, unite!

GunnyG
Please help me out here.. Congress wants to pass a resolution against Turkey for committing genocide against people of Armenian decent.
Since alot of our supplies flow through Turkey to our troops in Iraq, it's understandable for Democrats who oppose the war would want to do such a thing.
Here's my dilema..Since there are no special U.S. interests in Rwanda or Dafur has the Congress ever passed resolutions condemning the genocide in both of these countries? I am trying to find out if we ever did but information is hard to come by. I must be putting the wrong words in the search engine. I'll try again. Any help would be appreciated.

UncleB
The only place I saw the ripping of the MSM by Sanchez was on Fox News. My, that man was eloquent. No surprise that it's being ignored by everyone else.

for Taft
Taft writes: "Turkey wouldn't even let us go through them in the Iraq war. So, who is the really, really, big offender in making Turkey angry? BUSH"

You have it backwards, sir.
We didn't offend Turkey. Turkey offended us:

Turkey had promised Colin Powell that they would allow our troops to stage from their country as soon as negotiations were worked out. What we didn't know was that they had secretly decided to shaft us by stretching those negotiations out as long as possible, playing for time, hoping that if they could get us to delay the war long enough, Bush would eventually give up on it. He didn't and ended up invading Iraq from only one direction, hurting our war effort. This miscalculation on Turkey's part hurt us.

The revelations about Turkey's delaying action were revealed to Washington Post reporters after Turkish diplomats realized their strategy had failed.

UncleB
I have MLD on permanent ignore..He's just a Chatty Cathy who's string got stuck.

For Taft
Maybe you should stop trying to change the subject and explain how the current resolution being proposed by the Democrats is going to improve relations with Turkey.

When I began reading the comments under this article I was wondering how some lib troll would try to spin this behavior by the Dems as something other than childishly treasonous. But instead you have chosen to change the subject to other things that have angered the Turks. Should I conclude that even a vacuous, spoonfed liberal robot troll like you can't defend this behavior by the Dems in Congress? And if you can't, why are you even on this thread, A-hole?

Retro-Resolution
Why don't the Repubs get togeather and pass a resolution condemming the democraps for not passing the "resolution in question" during previous administrations. Some will say the Repubs were in the majority for a long time and they should have done it then. Who says ya gotta be in the majority to bring up a resolution. I mean heck the majority Repubs might have gone along with it if the democraps had brought it up "back when". If this sounds like a he said/she said and finger pointing exercise in futility......if it walks and quacks.....well you know the rest

For YLG
Rush picked up the Sanchez press conference too, and played the audio of Sanchez' most direct comments.

And the lib trolls wonder why we listen to Rush.

wiseone
I'll leave the threads developments to the discretion on the readers. I won't debate or respond to a post such as yours.

sheepdog
Morning! I, too , am waiting for the resolutions against the Japanese gov't regarding the Rape of Nanking, the slaughter of SE Asians and Chinese, etc. You bring up Dafur, Rwanda, and I bring up the Stalinist Purges, the N Korean forced famine. Interesting that the liberals would pick on Turkey now, when we need Incirlik. You can bet, though, that the EU is watching this with baited breath.

YLG
morning to you as well. Yeah, shaggy hasn't had his morning grogg yet. Me thinks that he needs a flea bath or something.
Yeah, on my earlier post. If something happens from the dems idiotic moves in congress, its all about game on from this retired fool.


Hal D: Jesse, you can stay with me and Robbie when you get out of the brigg.

GunnyG-7:43am
Agreed. Some are more equal than others.

Isn't it obvious?
Nancy Pelosi's resolution is the backdoor way for Democrats to hurt the progress going on in Iraq. They don't have to get their hands dirty via a bill that cuts funds for the troops or even take a vote on troop withdrawal that they know will fail. No, they will just cut off the supply lines. NICE. They are using the Armenian people as a ploy. Do I believe Democrats are capable of something this cynical? Absolutely. This must be brought out in the open by voters because the MSM won't do it. Call your representatives.

YLG
As for my faux pas yesterdaywhile writing to you and Mrs Paddy I am sure I am undeserving of either of you

UncleB
I'll buy the bullet.

Pelosi
Pelosi is the worst speaker of the house the US has ever had. Murtha is beyond odious. etc Has anyone noticed? When this woman is in charge, life gets worse and uglier. She didn't play on sports teams. To put a kind spin on her disgusting actions it could be said that she does not understand loyalty nor the role of the loyal opposition.






How long will it take Iran....
to sidle up to the Turks?

This is deliberate, the Dims know that if they make the Turks mad that they will stop supplies for the troops from going through Turkey. It will give them more ammunition to make their case for a Cut and Run out of Iraq.


DEMSWITS LINE UP PLEASE
Did anyone recall that in 2000 that the REP congress tryied to do the same thing, but Billy boy called personaly Mr Haster to keep the same thing from coming to the floor. It was A Dem then, stoping the REPS from saying the exact thing as the Dems are doing now, but we where not at war, we where useing the Turks air space for (the no fly zone). It this not concider as a pure tacted for the Dems to change things on the ground, you must be blind. I have many military friends in Iraq now, if this causes one American life, the sponcers & leader should be tried as traders and shot. call your congress now.

Dems are Fools
Why don't the Dem's submit a resolution condemning every atrocity ever perpetrated by the human race.
Don't forget the slaying of millions of Christians.
That's one they'll conveniently forget.

UncleB
Republicans can't get squat passed because the Dems have the majority in both Houses. Notice that the Dems want their treasonous anti-Turkey resolution to be "non-binding". This is to prevent Bush from vetoing it and showing the Turks that this is not the official policy of the US and that we have reasonable checks and balances within our government to contain and mitigate the obscene conduct a relative handful of power-grabbing spoiled children who somehow made it into high office.

Foreign policy is the province of the President according to the Constitution. By this action the Dems are once again letting us know that there is no floor, no bottom, to their vulgarity, treachery, sleaze, and self-importing arrogance. There is no level to wish they won't stoop, crawl, or dive to attain political power for themselves.

They are determined to make the Iraq war a failure and they don't care how many people have to die for that to happen as long as they can run for Prez in 2008 on a platform that declares that policy a failure.

sheepdog
As far as I know, America's first black POTUS, Bubba, totally ignored the slaughter in Rwanda and I have yet to hear race warlords Jesse and Al decry the Dafar issue.

UncleB
The MSM has a complete blackout on the remarks critical of them by Sanchez. Of course, the MSM was more than happy to report the negative comments about IRAQ. The FUNNIEST part of this is the selective reporting of what Sanchez said is exactly the point of his criticism of him. Are they really trying to prove his point so easily?

wiseone
I shall be listening today. Hopefully, Rush will play it again, and again, and again.... This Turkey resolution has me in a fit, though. I have to wonder, if it passes, will other resolutions come to pass just to make Bush look bad and make it look as if our administration is trying to alienate the rest of the world? Just a rambling thought...

Taft
You and I have no debate because you know you can't defend the actions of your traitorous heros in Congress. That's what my post was about, fool.

When you refused to engage in debate over the pending resolution and instead tried to warp the debate onto other events that the article dosn't discuss you 'lost' before I ever posted.

BTW - I am a reader and poster at TH as much as any other. Therefore my "discretion" on how the thread develops counts as much as yours. Further, if you were to "poll" the posts you would see that those who wish to discuss the pending resolution far outnumber trolls like you who want to change the subject because this treasonous behavior of the democrats in Congress has no defense and you know it.

ussmls
You mean "traitors" and I agree, they should be lined up and shot.

Sulla took his legion in Rome and slaughtered the Senate after they became obstructionist and useless. It's written that the blood ran ankle deep.

What a pleasant thought. Where's OUR Sulla?

Nancy & Hillary Are Political Hacks
Unfortunately, this resolution is all about anti-Bush. In order to cripple the efforts in Iraq and embarrass Bush, they are willing to shamelessly discount a horrific event as nothing more than a political club.

This is just Congressional b.s. Imagine the vindictive behavior if Hillary Putin actually gains real power!!! Welcome to Mother Russia.

Wondering
Were you all this upset when Cheney nixed any chance of Iran continuing to help us in fighting terrorism?

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0222-07.htm

thanks for the debate
I've got to go to work, so I can't respond for a while. Have a nice day.

YLG GunnyG
Rented a movie last weekend called "Beyond the Gate" True story about the genocide in Rwanda.
It upset me because the UN did nothing to stop the slaughter. There only "mandate" was to monitor the peace. They evacuated all the white Europeans but would not evacuate any of the locals. Our tax dollars supporting a corrupt organization. And to think that Libs want us to go through the UN if trouble breaks out anywhere in the world.

Cookie
"The FUNNIEST part of this is the selective reporting of what Sanchez said is exactly the point of his criticism of him. Are they really trying to prove his point so easily?"

Great observation! Think about it. The MSM sat there while Sanchez ripped them a new one for their selective reporting of the war and then reflexively went back and did, once again, exactly that for which he had just ripped them.

The only blood that will spill...
is that of U.S. service men and women and that of Iraqis trying to build up their country. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! Trying to cut supply lines while we are fighting a war - utterly sickening - and having the gall to run around saying they support the troops.

test
Are there problems with TH AGAIN today???

YLG
I had to cut my previous groveling short. Imagine, my employer actually wanting me to do some work. Anyway, since you both have hubbies, we can just be friends.
Yes, I saw the Sanchez statement on Fox while watching Mr.O last night. It seemed to me that Sanchez is the first upper echelon commander to come out and say that the media is endangering military citizens.
Cookie: make it 9mm hollow point for maximum "splash" effect.

Committed to defeat
You only need to look at the postings of the liberal trolls on this thread to see how sick Bush Derangement Syndrome can become. To a liberal, nothing else matters except regaining power in 2008, and they have placed all their bets on bloody headlines continuing to flow from Iraq. "GD the US military, they're aslways getting the GD job done! Well, let's see how they do with no supplies!"

wiseone
I see Taft is as good as changing the subject as any other lib troll is. Maybe even better.
Taft, why won't you engage wiseone on the issue of the vote the demcritters are proposing? You can't, thats why. Change the subject again. Your pretty good at it.


Hal D: I'm ready for my trim, Robbie.

Taft Missed History Class
Taft writes: "Wondering, Were you all this upset when Cheney nixed any chance of Iran continuing to help us in fighting terrorism?"

That's like Briton's Prime Minister Chamberlin asking Hitler to help get rid of Facism. Luckily, Cheney had seen that one before.

So, to answere your silly question, No, we were not upset.


wiesone
And the MSM doesn't understand why anyone with any intelligence has written them off. They are so transparent and silly. You have to work hard to not see their bias.

Bman3
Good Morning..We thought you went AWOL..Nice to have you back..Look forward to your humorous posts.

sheepdog, UncleB, Bman3
Sorry, had to finish some laundry.

sheepdog: Sounds like I need to find this documentary. My 12 yr old daughter caught me watching "Hotel Rwanda" last May, and I had to explain the circumstances underwhich this massacre happened. Before I was done, she was crying. Unfortunately, her innocence is going sooner than I would wish, but I would rather she understand the evils of the world rather than be consumed by them.

UncleB: I'm not a big fan of Sanchez, but I'm glad he's not taking any cr*p from the media anymore. And, yes, we can be friends!

Cookie: Can I bring the soon-to-be-mine Glock 17 to the fray?

I can't get this site to work....
arrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh!

news hound
That's the libscum for ya. Anything to gain power again. This will get pounded on over and over by the GOP, Rush, etc.

It will play well in the Heartland.

HalD

Shaggy MLD has worms again Robert Robert.

Robert Robert

Good, I like spaghetti.


Liberals & The Values They Treasure
Lying, Cheating, Cowardice, Hatred of The US Military and Selective Outrage. Fairy Reid, Mr. Elizabeth Edwards, Mr. Theresa Heinz-Kerry, Osama (Dumbo) Obama, Nancy Al-Pelosi, Martha Murtha, Shrillary Clinton, Dummy Hoyer, Turban Durbin and the rest of The Democowards should face death by firing squad. The problem is this would contribute to the deficit as they are not worth the powder it would take to end them.

Georgetwin
Georgetwin.....you ever consider runnin for office. you"d get my vote.

Turkey holocaust subject
I heard Hole Congressmen on FOX News Sunday and Brit Hume asked why are they doing this now to Turkey where the Turkey rep left our country insulted. He said he has wanted to for 25 years and now seems the right time. I think the Dems just want to hurt the Iraq effort in any way they can. Turkey is a supply line we need for our troops. I think the Dems have almost destroyed our Congress since they took over. My God Sen. Reid knocks down a citizen (Rush Limbaugh) in the middle of our Senate.

Morning SSGT, GunnyG, Bman3 and Others
Can't stay on long, I just finished an emergency engineering project in Pearl, Mississippi. I haven't slept in over 30 hours (I'm getting too old for this sh*t.).

The timing of this resolution is what interests me. We all agree the Dumocrats are traitors; but why are they trying to pass this resolution now?

Is the "Surge" getting to them? Is their "base" upset after Hitlery, the Breck Boy, and Osama Obama said our troops would be in Iraq until at least 2012?

Is there something going on that we don't know about?

(By the way, I posted a list of my favorite Halloween movies at my blog site. It was my reward for 30 hours of continuous design work.)

Cookie
Great idea!!! Bring it on to the party....
(The Glock that is)

Gray Ghost
"Arsenic and Old Lace"; by far one of my favorites: 'Insanity doesn't run in my family; it practically gallops!!'
I've seen all the movies you listed, except "Signs". Every time I sit down to watch it, something comes up.
When it comes to this resolution against Turkey, all I can surmise is that the liberals want this war to be JUST like Viet Nam. They miss their glory days.

UncleB: That's MY Glock, not Cookie's!

Mis-nomer
MLD's name is a mis-nomer. It's almost like calling Willie the Worm Handeler MR BRILLIANT!!! Or even worse, MR PRESIDENT(?)


Hunter/Tancredo "08"


Roberto,Roberta: I'm so bright my daddy called me sonny .......Among other nasty things!!

I have been
VERY very angry for several days now. I'm angry at our congress, at our Senate, at Bush, and at those running for POTUS. Then I really got angry at the libs coming here and spouting their venom at our good conservatives.

Guess I need to settle down, because I don't make reasonable statements when I get angry. I'm not good at sniping. I need some practice I guess.
Until then, I'll leave the good stuff to the experts like Gunny G, YLG, doc, and others.
You go guys.

Grey Ghost
I feel ya on the sleep issue. I just deprive myself of it. Get some zzzzzz's and clear your mind. We need all on the front lines to stay the course.

Hal D: SHAGGY, get out of the cats litter BOX!

Taft
put a cork in that stupid mouth. I'm sick and tired of nincompoops going na nana nah you did it first.
I've had it with these H No We Won't Go thugs, they trashed the military in the 60/s and 70's and now they've "grown up" and got real power and they are gonna make an even stronger point.
Ooh ooh, they are going after the mean old Ottomans as they routinely support partial birth abortion. Maybe they should get the LOG out of their own eyes.
I called my democrat congressman this morning and let his aide know I'm MAD. I'm an independent for one reason, I won't let one cent of support go to RINO's but he wants my vote. He's vulnerable so I let them know just how
enraged I am. I said it to them and I'm saying it now the demonRats WANT as many of our people killed and wounded as possible to make their point for the election. When they whine about the war dead, they'd better look in the mirrow because to cut off their supplies will get more killed and wounded. I'm the grandmother of an enlisted Navy, and words cannot convey the utter contempt I have for these morons.

This is a simple issue...
Why complicate it?
Passing a resolution to condemn a war as 'genocide' over 90 years after the fact at a sensitive time?
It is a calculated effort to end the war the only way the democrat party can figure without directly implicating their own distaste for our troops. If this resolution passes, Turkey will respond by cutting off our critical supply lines. Those supply lines move well over 80% of ammunition, vehicles, water, fuel and other critical supplies. That action will put every soldier in country in perilous danger and effectively end the war. The democrat party will then proclaim their innocence and surely demonize Bush for putting our troops in harms way.
All over a horrible event that happened 90 years ago that no one denies happened. Labeling it a genocide has zero implications right now on the people who suffered through it and has literally nothing to do with the current government in Turkey, a moderate muslim nation who is an American ally.
So make whatever excuses you want about Turkey's views about America, use any poll you can dig up, reference any silly historical point and try to make your moral equivalences so you feel better about it - but what you support if you support this resolution is closing a vital supply line and alienating an ally.
This resolution can wait until later - but what business is this of the american congress exactly? That's the funny thing about the democrat party - they don't want republicans to comment on world events or push our values on anyone else, but it is prefectly fine for a democrat to do so.
Meanwhile, they are playing a game that will result in damaged foreign relations and soldiers without ammunition, armor, vehicles, fuel and water. Our troops will be starved to death in an effort to end a war that the democrat party doesn't have the guts or will to end themselves.
Which is shameful on it's face.

Gray Ghost...
I'll see if I can get this to post.....


You wrote:
"The timing of this resolution is what interests me. We all agree the Dumocrats are traitors; but why are they trying to pass this resolution now?"


Could it be something coming out about Norman Hsu?

I heard a little this morning that apparently Hillary has been caught in her own wiretapping scandal? Anyone heard this yet? Was on Fox.

Could it be to deflect the Limbaugh Letter fiasco? (up to $50,300 now)


Makes one wonder doesn't it. I just think, as I said last week when this first came out - it is purely to pi$$ the Turks off and so they will close their airspace and bases.

How are Nancy and Co. going to spin this if the lefties sons, daughters, husbands and wifes get killed because of this?



Whoops
Make that mirror..I'm so mad my fingers started sputtering.

YLG 11:25am
Glad you enjoyed the list! As you can tell, I am not a fan of the "slash and blood" type movies. By the way, "Signs" is like many of the Hitchcock movies, it lets your imagination do the scaring.

On the resolution, does anyone have an idea about the timing. In politics, timing is everthing (like in real estate: location, location, location).

Why now?

nanna
A few days back, AGZ was feeling the same way. He started to breathe deeply and meditate. I also used to get riled up, until I figured out the liberals are trying to make us mad so we can say mean things to them. This way they can point and scream 'A-HA!'. I ignore most of them, with a few exceptions like sophia, who actually enjoys discourse here. However, she is cozing up to HalD, and if she continues down the same path, she, too, will be ignored. Their rude remarks only strengthen our arguments, which is why I don't want them gone. That doesn't mean someone won't get flagged, though....!

I love your posts, and I thank you for the way you come to our defense!

MLD
MLD, your 9:29 post deserves to be flagged. But since I do not flag idiots I guess you got off on that one. You typify so much what is wrong/gone wrong with this country. But with the so called "leadership" we now have it is no wonder that pukes such as your self are the way you are.

Your mother and father, if you know who they are, should be put in a concentration camp, taught the work ethic and sent to work. They have got to be 3rd generation welfare recipients (making you the 4th). That's the only way that I can explain your senseless and moronic post.

Being taught in what I would guess, an inner city public school where the most difficult words in your vocabulary, and those like you, are "Where's my check" you don't have the sense to know that if it weren't for people such as SSGT and GunnyG and all the others here at TH your sorry pukie arse wouldn't be here posting.

You would be, had you not been "post-birth-aborted" (my word), sucking up to some communist dictator. Or wiping George Soros' behind every time he took a "MLD".

Your parents should be jailed, and those like them, for letting their offspring grow up to be like you are.

For you and all your homeys will one day, maybe in the near future, be the first ones screaming for your "Little Mercenary" and SSGT to come save your nappy arses. And I hope they laugh in your face and say "Remember when...."

And I will be right behind them, trampling on your face. Gladly, too I might add.

You and your ilk are truly the bottom feeders of the USA. You don't deserve to be here. Your mother should be held in contempt of the USA for NOT HAVING AN ABORTION...



Democrats Cowardly Intentional Sabatoge
Mr. Limbaugh:

You hit the nail on the head, but I would not classify this Resolution as merely "Reckless." It is time to call it what it is -- Intentional Sabatoge of the Most Cowardly Nature.

This House Resolution reveals the folowing Eight (8) things about today's Democratic Party:
(1)The anti-war Democrats do not have the honesty to openly end the war by, for example, cutting off funding;
(2)they have neither the courage nor principles to take the responsibility for the the consequences of doing so;
(3) They could not care less about the well being of our troops;
(4)they're many assertions that they care about the troops are flat-out lies;
(5)their concern about about "alienating" foreign countries and the international community applies only to Bush but not to themselves (do as I say not as I do);
(6) they are underhanded and flat out dishonest to such a degree that makes "Janis Soprano" look like above board saint;
(7) their claim that such a resolution is grounded in morality but ignoring the obvious ill-timing of doing so shows their smug, eltitism in that that they think We the People are that stupid to accept such feeble, adolescent explanation; and
(8) they care more about scoring political points in their pursuit of sabatoging the Iraq War for the ultimate goal to gain the White House in '08.

THIS IS DEPLORABLE AND DISPICABLE IN THE MOST EXTREME. It is time that the not just We the People speak out frankly against this, as Mr. Limbaugh so effectively has, but also that the very military which is jeopardized by such action do so as well.

Gray Ghost
The timing stinks. The only purpose it serves is to make Turkey mad enough to cut off the Incirlik supply line to our troops and make it near impossible to supply our troops with equipment and supplies. If resolutions against genocide were so important, where are the ones against Japan, Russia, Rwanda, Darfur, Eritrea, Myannmar, China, Somalia......

Gunny
Try not to get mad at MLD, at least you've had basic training. MLD hasn't even had basic paper training.He's proven it here today, he's sh@t all over everything here, including our military.

Hunter/Tancredo "08"



Hal: MLD I think I need my DIDY changed I did number two!!MLD:You sure it wasn't me?

This bill
Came before the House in 2000. Republicans were in control. President Clinton explained to them that it was a matter of national security that they don't insult Turkey. They needed the air space over Turkey, to protect the no fly zone in Iraq.
The Republican speaker of the House,, Dennis Hastert said it would not be brought to the floor because National security came first.
But with Democrats, to heck with anything, but losing the war by any means available!!!

BMAN3
Come on don't hold back, tell us how you REALLY feel about him. All joking aside BMAN, don't get flagged or worse yet banned as he's obviously not worth it and we want you here.

Bman3
The only spin they can use is this is a non-binding resolution, which means the President can't veto it. Hence, the President takes the fall for it, since he's the man in charge.

BTW, don't bother with the rat terrier. He tries sooo hard, but ultimately fails in trying to make sense.

MLD writes
"...electrodes applied to genitalia will REALLY make them jump!"

Thanks for the suggestion MLD, but I'm afraid it won't work with this group. Why? They don't have any balls. If they did they wouldn't be obstructionist and useless.

Taft
On top of what has been told to you about the US troops, the leader of the Armenians in Turkey has asked for the US Congress not to pass this. It can help tilt Turkey towards war with the Kurds because our restraining hand is weaker. It can help tilt Turkey towards becoming a radical Islamic state. Obviously the Armenians who live in Turkey feel uncomfortable and they know their position more that you or stupid bit-h Pelosi does. Everything in the Middle East is a tinder box of ancient hatreds waiting for a match and the dems want to strike the match. Deaths will be on their heads. And if the actions lead to deaths of Armenians, the dems won't even get the Armenian vote that they are craven for. But it might make the trial lawyers happy. Maybe Edwards will have a new ambition once he loses his bid for head of the dems. New deaths = new law cases = $. How coldly calculating the dems are, almost as cold as the media i.e. new deaths makes it easy to come up with news stories, they can sit in their Lazyboy and throw photos of mutilated children on the screen, yawn and collect their pay checks. It probably takes more effort to come up with their pedophile stories in the absence of death, mayhem, and senseless violence.


MLD
Why didn't this so called resolution come out before 1994? When the 'other party' was in control.

Your excuse for the timing is so lame. You would have us to believe that the Armenians just decided in the last twelve years that a 'resolution' needed passing but the repubs ignored them.


Come up with something better puke for brains.

Go ask your mammy why she didn't have an abortion?
When she sobers up that is.. She is probably still drunk from having you as a child.


SSGT 11:32am
I agree. After this post, I am shutting it down and getting some zzzzz's.

JeffisLouie (11:33am): You make some good points of the how and why, but not the "when".

Bman3 (11:34am): The Hitlery "wire-tapping" scandal? I have not heard anything about this; but I will check it out. The Klintons are capable of getting others to do their "dirty work" and set up "smoke screens". It is an interesting thought. I don't buy the "Limbaugh Letter Fiasco". Anything under $100,000,000.00 is chicken feed for the Dumocrats.

See yall later.


Bman3/YLG
AMEN, BROTHER!
Nuff said. Just check my 07:32 AM post. That sums it up for me.
YLG: Nickle plated 45 w/hollow points. My choice of weapons.



Hal: Shaggy, quit sniffing the cats hiney.

Right thing to do, but wrong reasons
While the Dems motivations are certainly wrong, telling the simple truth about the Armenian genocide is the right thing to do. If the damned Turks refuse to face up to it, we and NATO can learn to live without them.

yawn
I can only assume that this is *our* airbase in Turkey?

If so... and if Turkey won't let us fly out of there to Iraq...

We destroy the base. Leave not one stone standing. Destroy the runways, making them unusable.

Then build an equivalent airbase in Kurdish-controlled Iraq. The Kurds like us, right? They've been the most cooperative since the war began, IIRC. So we build the airbase there. It gives us a closer supply line, it helps the Kurdish economy, and it provides a base of operations against Turkey should they move against the Kurds.

If At First You Don't Succeed...
Dear Mr. Limbaugh:

What could be clearer here than the motivations of the Democrat congress? In their unbridled quest for power, they have unabashedly attempted, by word and deed, to betray our efforts in the Middle East. Recently, they underwent an embarassing failure in their attempts to set a troop withdrawal deadline. Their apologizing for, upholding of and even open consorting with America's enemies have rebounded against them. Now, in a desperate attempt to regain face and strike another blow against their country, they attempt a crass divide-and-conquer tactic to further impede our troops in the field.

And Turkey? I admit my anger against them for their disallowal of the 4th Division to invade Iraq through their territory... a move that could have cost many American lives. Against that, though, is the steadfastness of Turkey as our ally in the Cold War. The Russians initiated the Cuban Missile Crisis with the prime aim of removing nuclear missiles from Turkey; a strategic threat that was a major stumbling block in their quest for world domination.

And do we hold modern Turkey responsible for the genocidal crimes against Armenians in the 1910s? That was the Ottoman Empire that did this! How many participants are alive today? Do we also condemn the German Federal Republic for the Third Reich? How many American slaves or slaveholders are alive today, either? How far back in history will we go... only to find that everyone's ancestors share blame in acts of inhumanity?

Steven Mark Pilling


eastlake joe
The p*ssy wouldn't last ten second on the yellow footprints at PI. His posts are like the whines of a toddler in his terrible two's.

SSGT,

Shaggy snacking in the cat box again! No wonder his breath smells so bad.

MLD
Only one more post to you...

First:

I bought stock in Halliburton when Clinton gave them the first No Bid Contract. I figured what the heck, must be something to it right?


Second:
I'll gladly defend the likes of GunnyG, SSGT, mrs paddy's family, YLG's husband and the rest (sorry if I left anyone out) and all other NON PHONY VETS and current military members. Even if that current military member is against the war himself.


Third:
As to your comment about the German concentration camps - I am not sure I believe you. I seriously doubt you can trace your geneology back more than one generation.


Last:
I think I hear Robert and Hal D calling you.
Flight 007 is boarding in front of Wal-Mart awaiting departure to Never-Never Land.
Tell Peter Pan we all said hello when you get there.









I didn't know
that "Armenian" was a genotype.

Are there no Armenians left?

Unless the two above statements are both true, there was no genocide. Even the Holocaust was obviously not genocide.

It was ATTEMPTED genocide.

BLD
"I did have family in German concentration camps - they were murdered in the early 40s - sorry you couldn't feed them into the ovens."

Yeah, right. BULLSQUEEZE! Children of holocaust victims are usually of a conservative nature, i.e, the sabras in Israel in the 50's/60's, etc.

You're just another whiny libturd with a big case of BDS, a big ego, a tiny brain, a tinier member (so the word is anyway), and a head so far up your alimentary canal you ain't seen the light from day one.


HalD

The Perfumed Prince has me doing his laundry.

Shaggy

Can I wash his underwear? (sniffs)


Bman3
"I seriously doubt you can trace your geneology back more than one generation."

I can trace his lineage for him.

One fast gorilla that beat me over the fence. Other than that, it's anyone's guess.

Robert Robert

I have a leaky seabag.


jdw
so what do you propose we do in the time between bombing the old air base and building the new one?

GunnyG/Bman3
You guys are cracking me up.


Hal D: robbie, could you take care of that leaky seabag? Shaggy won't quit licking it up.

jdw
It took a year to redo the runways at Yokota AB when I was on Okinawa. That concrete is a certain grade and had to be to support the fully-loaded weight of a C-5/C-17 or Rosie O'Donnell's car after a Taco Bell run.

HalD

Come snuggle with me shaggy. I'm lonely for RObert Robert

YGL
I had to go to the kitchen, and do the dishes, and I missed your post. Thank you, your advice makes good sense, and I will just breathe deep and let it go, or laugh at them.

thanks again.

Sanchez transcript Part 1
For YLG and any others who missed it.

This a partial transcript of Lt. Gen. Sanchez' remarks to the MSM this past weekend. If you issed this you can thank the MSM for refusing to report it.

LT. GEN. SANCHEZ: For some it seems that as long as you get a front-page story, there is little or no regard for the collateral damage that will be caused. Personal reputations sometimes have no value. They report with total impunity, and are rarely held accountable for unethical conduct. Given the near instantaneous ability to report actions on the ground, the responsibility to accurately and truthfully report takes on an unprecedented importance. The speculative and often uninformed initial reporting that characterizes our media, appears to be rapidly becoming the standard of the industry.



Sanchez transcript Part 2
LT. GEN. SANCHEZ: Once reported, your assessments become conventional wisdom and nearly impossible to change. Your unwillingness to accurately and prominently correct your mistakes and your agenda-driven biases sometimes contribute to this corrosive environment. All these challenges combined create a media environment that does a tremendous disservice to America, in some instances. Over the course of this war, tactically insignificant events have become strategic defeats for our country because of the tremendous power and impact of the media -- and, by extension, you individually, the journalists.

LT. GEN. SANCHEZ: What is clear to me is that you're perpetuating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war, in some cases.

LT. GEN. SANCHEZ: My assessment is that your profession, to some extent, has strayed from these worthy ethical standards and has allowed external agendas to manipulate what the American public sees on TV, what they read in our newspapers, and what they see and read on the Web. For some of you, just like some of our politicians, the truth is of little to no value if it does not fit your own preconceived notions, biases, or agendas.

YLG
Sorry about the delayed response. Work, lunch et. OK I think I got it straight now. You got the Glock and cookie has the bullets. Howzbout we just rip one of their arms off and beat 'em to death with it............nah to much work. They aint worth it.

Okay GunnyG
How bout a SPEW alert!
"It took a year to redo the runways at Yokota AB when I was on Okinawa. That concrete is a certain grade and had to be to support the fully-loaded weight of a C-5/C-17 or Rosie O'Donnell's car after a Taco Bell run."


Shaggy: arf arf arf
Hal: Robbie, did you get the puppy mints?

SSGT
Seems Ol' Shaggy likes applying his tongue to nasty places! haha.

Also, I have an excuse re: the gorilla and his momma incident. I was drunk. I don't know about the gorilla.

HalD

Hum a few bars for me Shaggy. Oh, yeah, that feels great.

Gunny G
You wrote: "That's the libscum for ya. Anything to gain power again. This will get pounded on over and over by the GOP, Rush, etc."

I hope you are right. I've called AND written my Representatives and Congressmen. What is so subversive about the Dems' latest efforts to undermine the troops is that it appears to most to be a benign gesture "The Armenian Genocide Resolution." Unless you are well-informed and up on current issues, then it doesn't raise a red flag. That's why I am doing what I can to call radio shows/write letters to the papers -in order to connect-the-dots. This has pushed my buttons!

Re: "Right thing to do, but wrong reason
Roy,

Are you aware that

1. This massacre happened more than 90 years ago?
2. The current Turkish government is an outgrowth of the Turks who overthrew the "Ottoman" Turks who committed these crimes, and this massacre is one of the reasons the Ottomans were overthrown?
3. There have been two previous resolutions in our Congress condemning this massacre?

Given this info, what possible positive purpose can such a resolution serve now? How would you like it if foreign countries began issuing resolutions condemning the US for slavery just to suit their internal politics?

This resolution has only one purpose; to undermine the current administration and its efforts in the Middle East.

Short answer
Because the democrats are idiots; Long answer because the democrats are stupid idiots!!!

Does
Town Hall not know the trouble this site is having? Our posts are listed all over the place, and our (my) votes arenn't registering. Up is down, and down is up. It's horrible!!

this time I know it isn't me.

oops
I meant to say that "I've written my Representatives and Senators."

Military Lovin' Dogg
I would bet this is NYdoggystyle.
Your nothing but a little punk. You are one tough guy in here, talking smack to people who actually wore the uniform for this country.
What have you done? Beside beatoff in a cup to get money from a lesbian couple.
Your the guy woman move out on in the middle of the night because their tired of you being a parasite on their pay check.
Let me guess, you don't work, your between jobs because nobody understands you.
The only way you could be of help to this country and your fellowman, is to put a gun to your head, pull the trigger, and see if you can hear it when it goes off.

OK, I'm waiting
Well, since the Dems want to create a resolution about overlooked genocides, why not tick off the Ukraine and Russia by condemning Cossack massacres of both Poles and Jews. (Of course, I have a problem, as I have both Polish and Ukrainian relatives, so I get to be angry with myself...)

How about the Anglo-Saxon massacre of native Bretons in the 5th century? That could tick off Germany and the UK.

How about the Roman massacre of Gauls?

I know the Armenian massacre was more recent, but what does a resolution do? It sure won't bring back any Armenians. And there is no more Ottoman Empire to shame into behaving better. Nor will it do anything to prevent the next massacre.

Here's a thought, how about a resolution denouncing Saddam's massacre of Kurds and Marsh Arabs? Oh, wait, that might seem to support our current mission, may be misconstrued as vaguely patriotic, and we can't have that.

UncleB
Yes I have considered it. Click on my name and expose yourself to more Georgetwin Gems :)!

Bman, nanna, UncleB, SSGT
I leave to do some more laundry, and come back to a massive smackdown of the rat terrier. My day is a whole lot brighter now. Thanks!

nanna: You are more than welcome. Remember: OHM...OHM...OHM...

Bman: Never Never Land? Ins't that where Michael Jackson lives now?

SSGT: My husband and I thank you, kind sir.

UncleB: I agree: they aren't worth it. But I wouldn't mind trying if one came at me with intent to harm....!

Robert
My money and my honey go to MoveOn

andrews
your on the mark with your post. Especially the last para. Heaven forbid that they look like they really support the troops.


Hal: shaggy, quit licking yourself. The sound is annoying.

MLD...
"the same Business that tried to pass a resolution proclaiming Rush Limbaugh a great friend to the military and a great American."

Um, did you miss the reason that resolution was passed? The left libeled and slandered a private citizen from the halls of Congress. They did this because they knew they could not be sued for defamation.
Something had to be done to correct a lie.
And, by the way, what nation did we cheese off with the resolution about Limbaugh again? Did that resolution result in a country pulling their ambassador? Did it jeapordize our troops in harms way and tarnish international relations?
I understand that the resolution is something the armenians want. But I also know that none of them expected to see it in their lifetimes. Is it overdue? Arguably. Is NOW the right time to do it? When we are in country and at war and the nation the resolution condemns is our ally and allows us our vital supply lines?
Allow me to help you understand this: This is an empty resolution that has no bearing or affect on the armenian people. It does, however, open our troops up to NOT have fuel, armor, ammo, food, water, weaponry, and vehicles.
Now, if we weigh the potential positives against the negatives (which are already beginning to happen), how can you defend this action in anyway?

GunnyG
I read your blog earlier. Thanks for the info on Taco Bell.

Put that on the list with Progressive Insurance.

(no thanks for the Taco Rosie comment)

wiseone
Funny how the libstream media overlooked that!

Like the IPCC overlooking the Medieval Data in the gloBULL warming dreck.

Gunny
What's worse is that they didn't really miss it. They picked up and reported the part of the speech in which Sanchez said the war in Iraq was "a nightmare".

MLD
Your 1:08 post proves that you did receive a non-education in an inner-city public school.


Go back and read my post TO YOU.

Then answer ME, NOT yourself.

(I am just trying to help a homey out here.)





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