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Friday, August 31, 2007
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Bush Tax Cuts Must Be Extended
by David Limbaugh
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Democrats have only two arguments left against extending the Bush tax cuts, but recent data affirm that neither is valid. Sadly, though, Democrats will never abandon their claims because they fit so well into their class warfare template.

Even Democrats can't reasonably deny we've experienced sustained economic growth following the Bush tax cuts. Instead, they've resurrected the canard they used to discredit the phenomenal growth of the supply-side Reagan years: Our economic growth has come at the expense of federal solvency.

The growth, they say, is illusory, because it has led to record federal deficits, which means that greedy capitalist Republicans are getting richer on the backs of future generations.

Democrats have added another argument to discourage Americans from believing their lying eyes about the growth spurred by the Bush tax cuts, which also plays into their class warfare methodology. Without refuting that traditional economic indicators reveal strong and steady economic growth, they race to point out that these gains have not been equitably distributed among income groups. The rich are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer.

Let's see how both claims -- exploding deficits and income inequalities -- stack up against the facts.

Contrary to liberal propaganda, the Reagan tax cuts led to dramatic increases in federal revenues even after adjusting for inflation. Increases in the deficit were due to the spending side, some of the blame for which admittedly should be shared by Republicans.

Since Bush's tax cuts took effect, Democrats have been condemning them because of their alleged responsibility for soaring deficits. Pro-growth conservatives have countered that deficit increases have been due to spending -- not just on Iraq and elsewhere in the War on Terror, but domestic discretionary and entitlement spending.

Recent reports definitively confirm the Republicans' position. Not only are federal revenues increasing; the deficits are decreasing, just as in the Reagan out years.

The Heritage Foundation reports that the Office of Management and Budget's Mid-Session Review -- an update of its budget projections from February -- shows the 2003 tax cuts have boosted economic activity by increasing incentives to work, save and invest. The deficit will decrease from $248 billion last year to $205 billion this year. "One hundred percent of the budget deficit's decline is caused by revenue increases, and none by spending cuts. Lawmakers have not cut one dollar from the budget."

And get this: "At 1.5 percent of GDP, the budget deficit is now lower than it was in 24 of the past 30 years." President Bush will have fulfilled his promise to cut the budget in half despite spending on the war, Katrina and even entitlements.

Heritage cautions that out of control entitlement spending "still threatens America's fiscal and economic future." But we should note that here, too, Democrats ruthlessly played the class warfare card to prevent President Bush from accomplishing entitlement reform.

Students of the Reagan era know the Democrats' contention that the rich got richer and the poor got poorer during that period is pure rubbish. Income increased for all income groups in the Eighties.

Surprise, surprise. The same is proving true for the Bush cuts. Mounting evidence contradicts the Democrats' shameless efforts to downplay the Bush economy by claiming the gap between the "haves" and "have nots" is growing.

Heritage's Rea. S. Hederman Jr. notes that the U.S. Census Bureau's annual report shows that in 2006, the growing economy increased the median family income and lowered the poverty rate, and income inequality did not statistically increase. This is without even factoring in tax transfer payments from upper to lower income groups.

Hederman concludes, "The Census report refutes the notion that 'the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.' Instead, all quintiles are growing wealthier with more money income."

Democrats will not be deterred by these reports and, like their colleague John Edwards, will cite Census data that there are 36.5 million poor Americans who "do not have enough money for the food, shelter and clothing they need." But here again, closer inspection paints a different picture.

Heritage's Robert Rector documents that "if poverty means (as Edwards claims) a lack of nutritious food, adequate warm housing and clothing, then very few of the 36.5 million people identified as 'poor' by Census are, in fact, poor."

If all else fails, Democrats can always fall back on the supposedly 47 million uninsured Americans to confirm their gloomy picture of America and usher in a socialistic solution. Sorry, but these numbers are grossly distorted, too, as the Investors Business Daily editors cogently illustrated in their Wednesday editorial, "The '47 Million Uninsured' Myth."

It's past time to extend the Bush tax cuts.

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speakin of illusory
when is the last time you spoke out against farm subsidies?

free markets? small government? what a joke!

If agri-business can't compete against the Chinese then there's always a job at Walmart as a 'Greeter'.

50% of the $30 billion/year of welfare payments to farmers goes to 19 Congressional districts of which 18 are true RED.

Let's suck it up and show what the American farmer can do against international competition unfettered by big government interference.

I mean, hundreds of thousands of jobs have been lost in textile, shoe and furniture manufacturing, hi-tech and software industries, if you can't compete then you wither on the vine.

Right? Let's zero-base budget farm subsidies.
Of course, if you believe in Soviet-style five year economic planning then you might protest.


Cuts ala W
by any objective standards have been applied unequally. Even when this assertian is proved it does not matter.

Conserves crave them along with the steady stream of third world immigrants who serve them.


Mr. Alpha Town D.D.

it's hard to find...
it's hard to find pretty much anything in the democrat rhetoric that is actually right. about the only example i can think of is, "that [success in Iraq] will be a problem for us."

Prove it, Alpha
Alpha Towne D D writes:
Cuts ala W, by any objective standards have been applied unequally. Even when this assertian is proved it does not matter.


Ok Alpha,
Prove the truthfulness of your assertion. With FACTS, not Democrat talking points.

And understand this, contrary to what you libs think, the fact that you said it DOES NOT prove it.

Tax cuts?
What about the inflation Bush has left us with? That will be extended - permanently. Those prescription drugs have to be paid for, as well as too many other things to mention that have been increased or initiated under Bush/Republican rule.

zapdoodat
Says "speakin of illusory... when is the last time you spoke out against farm subsidies? free markets? small government? what a joke!"

No kidding. The idea of tax cuts was once couple to spending cuts. Friedman once said he never saw a tax cut he didn't like, but he argued they should drive spending cuts. Instead, nowadays, Republicans, in a Keynesian twist, have taken advantage of the increased revenues brought about by tax cuts to increase spending.

As you say, zapdoodat, "Let's zero-base budget farm subsidies." In fact, let's zero-base budget all corporate and social welfare. And then cut government welfare, cut off funding to and shrink government itself.

Somehow I don't think your sarcasm intended that. Mine does.

Reflects My Reality
One individual I know of is doing financially better now then when Bush assumed the presidency. Everyone else, across 3 states, is doing worse financially --- computer programmers, engineers, nurse (whose employer dropped health insurance for their staff!), small business owner, short-order cook, manager at a biotech firm, bank teller, insurance fraud private investigator, airplane mechanic, mid-level gal at a Fortune 500 soft drink company, mid-level guy at the mortgage lending company. The one person who is doing better is a Vice President at a mid-level company whose business is 100% from the federal government. So, when the Democrats say that the "good economy" is only good for those at the top, not the middle and working class, their statement reflects my reality, and the reality of those I know from home, from church, from the parents of my children's friends.

"Median income" -- the way they message the statistics to say "median income" is going up is that they include the cost of employer-provided health insurance. So, if an individual's take-home pay has decreased by $50/month, but that individual still has health insurance through their employer, their income is deemed to have increased (because the cost of health insurance has increased by more than $50/month).

The economy will be a Democratic issue in 2008.

GeorgiaGal
I'll take a look a MY reality. With the exception of one person that was "downsized" more than a year ago (but had the savings and wherewithall to weather the storm)"everyone" I know has done quite well in recent years across as many states. People from ad execs to sprinkler fitters. What's your point. There has NEVER been an economy where EVERYONE is rolling in money. NEVER. My father got laid off 5 times during the Clinton years. 3 times it was on Christmas Eve. Yes, that was during the Clinton Administration. I know those on the left refuse to believe it but not everyone made a fortune on the dot com bubble of the nineties.

The point is that we can always sight cases where folks run into financial difficulty. It's called LIFE.

What's that got to do with stealing more money from people that work hard for it, take risks, and want to build a better life for their families?

I'm doing better
My son has had two vice presidencies. My daughter-in-law just became a full partner. Who do you know?

If Bush tax breaks are allowed to lapse (no one need vote to stop them), the average family of 4 making $60,000 will see taxes rise c. $2500. (WSJ)

Since 1970, most goods and services have inflated 10-25%. Taxes have inflated 200-240%. (WSJ)

Today WSJ suggests Reps. appeal to women by lowering tax rates that GUT married women's earnings which are taxed at the (usually) husbands' higher rates. Kind of a double marriage penalty. Sometimes a second income in a family isn't worth the tax and outsied (child care, take-out food) costs because of taxes.

The truth is most jabbering about stagnating wages is just jibberish. Inflation has been low since Reagan in 1982, when this quarter-century boom began. Inflation was essentially zero the first five years of Bush II's pres.

If you are making more money, you are really making more money. Don't be duped by nutty stats. Remember Mark Twain said there are stats. and then there are damned lies. (paraphraseP)

Trouble w/ "Bush Tax Cuts"
The only problems with the "Bush tax cuts" are that they aren't permanent, & aren't flattening enough.

Temporary tax cuts w/ expiration dates are much less beneficial than permanent tax cuts, because investments are made based on expectation. When investors look a few yrs out & see a scheduled increase in their taxes, they might reconsider whether to make the investment.

Stupid gimmicks & class-envy stunts like the AMT & death tax need to disappear. If you want a good economy, jobs, goods & services, then create a tax situation that lets those who earn more keep proportionately more, without the threat of tripping over some idiotic tax landmine.

If you're worried about "deficits," then rein in the spending. I gagged thru the late 80's-early '90's on the phoney Demmie "deficit rhetoric." The Repubs have been no better on spending. Why isn't buying votes w/ tax revenues even more illegal and disreputable than buying them with private money? Tell your Congresspersons we want LOW TAXES, not pork!

Don't tread on me
Couldn't have said it better myself.

The AMT and Death Taxes are a freakin' joke! Bottom line is that they champion the quest for mediocrity which is what the Gov't loves. Don't work to hard. Don't be too successful. Don't provide for your family after you're gone. It's not worth it. Just let the gov't take care of everything.

You want to tax the "evil rich" people, let's give the Fair Tax a shot!

Tax cuts
We are so taxed now I just find it hard for anyone wanting to keep doing this to us over and over. Raising taxes. I don't have a cell phone, no big TV, no computer, no cable, no new car, no DVD, no new clothes. Just the basic living expenses. Really! Don't smoke, don't drink, very frugal. I'm along with the rest of America are just taxed to death. With a federally funded program to look into the elderly and how much sex they are having and how frisky they are. Well, this is where the monies go. To stupid programs like this. If they stop this pork spending, maybe I could retire before I die. Yes, the Dems always want to raise taxes, always have and always will.

one thing
to remember is that you CAN NOT raise taxes on in segment of society without hurting the poorest among us.
When government takes a bigger slice of the "pie", there is less for the rest of us.
If you "soak the rich", you stop investments and unemployment rises.

You should have that learned by third grade.

The drug program was a horrible thing to saddle workers with - along sending 4yr olds to school.

How do you know a Democrat is lying?
His lips are moving.

"What about the inflation Bush has left us with?"

Hmm, what about it? The last reading was a 0.1% increase (1.2% annualized), while incomes rose 0.5% in the same period.

"Those prescription drugs have to be paid for, as well as too many other things to mention that have been increased or initiated under Bush/Republican rule."

Health care and prescription drug prices have been skyrocketing for about 15 years now, 8 of which we were under Klinton Klux Klan rule.

Democrats simply can't STAND that their "bestest pwezident in da hole wyde werld" is being bested by a dope who thinks "misunderestimated" is a word.

Robert
Huh?

People like me? Hard time thinking for myself? Not hardly....I actually agree with the fact that spending cuts should come with a tax cut (although gov't revenues are up)as a result of the Bush tax cuts.

The problem here Robert is not a lack of money. THERE IS PLENTY OF MONEY. There is money to win or lose this war. I prefer to win it. The problem is that these guys in Washington think that MY money is theirs to spend on non-sense.

Farm subsidies for dead people, federal funding for "the arts," bridges to no where, entitlement programs that don't empower ANYONE, transportation funds that actually fund new sports stadiums, local boards of education that spend money on everything but education. I could go on all day.

Yes, the war costs a lot of money. I don't deny that. The whole lot of them in DC can't seem to do what you (presumably) and I do every day...it's called prioritizing and living within a budget!

It's about the gov't having more power over our lives....not about the "lack" of funds.




The real test is nearly upon us
In November of 1994 the American people voted to make a wholesale change in Congress because they were tired of the same old sh*t. They threw the Dems out of power in both Houses and put the Republicans in charge.

One of the 'promises' these Republicans made that got them elected was that a sincere effort would be made to balance the budget.

Less than one year later the Republican Congress began to make good on their promise. They drafted one balanced budget after another, endured a government shut down, and even allowed deeper cuts in the military to keep that promise.

Well, last November we had the American people tossing out the Republicans because they didn't maintain that fiscal discipline from 2001 through 2006. The Dems made much of this in their mid-term campaign. So next month, when the Democrat Congress drafts its first budget, we will see how good they are at practicing what they preach.

My guess is that they will fall flat on their lying faces. And this is one thing we won't have to wonder about. They will either present Bush a balanced budget or they won't.

I dare any lib poster to predict that the budget they present Bush to sign into law will have a zero deficit.

Any takers?


Robert
You've lost your mind. Increase property taxes brilliant. Did you even look to see who at the board of ed is making six figures for pushing paper around? I can tell you there's more than a few. My wife is a teacher! The education system that she worked for spent $37 million on new computers. $37 million! You know where those computers are? In a warehouse for the last 5 years, obsolete now. How 'bout parents that get free lunches for their kids only to pick them up in there brand new SUV's? No waste there. Right? How 'bout paying for work shops for teachers that are run by bureaucrats that have never stepped into a classroom. Please....There IS plenty of money in education!

2nd of all, don't just lump me in with the folks that just like to point fingers. I DON'T CARE WHO IS WASTING THE MONEY IF IT IS BEING WASTED. Dems, repubs.....I don't care. They are in it together. Quit the finger pointing and understand that they are ALL playing a shell game (with the exception of Congressman Flake and about six others that call these guys out on occasion).

Keep playing the partisan game. BOTH parties love that. Why? It's about control! The more you want to blame the other side Robert the less that will get done in the long run, and the more money that will continued to be pilfered from your paycheck.

NASA
Robert,

And on NASA and the moon. Couldn't agree with you more. Let the private sector take care of it. There's plenty of interest.

Tax cuts without spending cuts...
Are grossly irresponsible.

All you're doing is increasing our debt, which stands currently near 9 trillion dollars.

Add in the future social obligations that the New Deal saddled us with and we're talking of a current national deficit in the range of 48 trillion dollars.

Either way, if nothing changes, we will be seeing either: massive tax hikes, bankruptcy, massive inflation, or abandonment of our previous 'obligations'.

That a Republican president and a Republican congress not only refused to cut government, but increased spending at a level Clinton could only dream about is a gross stain on the GOP.

Bush Tax Cuts
need to be even deeper tax cuts. We are not even competitive with the rest of the industrialized world.

Robert
I didn't write that last quote you attributed to me.

As far as your assertion that those that educate our children should be well compensated I couldn't agree more. Like I said my wife is a teacher. If it weren't for restrictive contracts and pay scales where teachers are slotted based on experience rather than performance I could probably retire (she's an excellant teacher). But the bureaucrats that sit on the board of ed in many cases have nothing to do with educating our kids and have never stepped foot in a classroom. Yet, they are paid much more, and get more frequent pay raises. These are the same types of people that allow $37 million of computer equipment to sit in a warehouse.

As for "If people are driving SUV's they can more property taxes." That's typical for the left. The gov't can better spend the public's money than the public can. It's not the gov't role to forcibly take someone's income because the gov't believes that they can afford it.

As for spending cuts I don't understand how you start with one of the only things that gov't should be responsible for....defending its citizens. You're telling me that it is more appropriate to cut defense than it is to cut farm subsidies to dead people, or federal funding of the arts? You can't be serious.

lolo2
Good point. Can't be competitive when exorbitant corporate tax rates drive up the costs of goods and services.

Here's another bulletin. Companies don't pay taxes! We do.....They get taxed and then build it into their business plan.

PERFECT leftist line!
Robert says, in the context of SUV-driving parents picking kids up at school:

"If people are driving SUV's they can [pay] more property taxes."

A conservative would say:

"If people are driving SUVs they can afford to buy their kids' lunches themselves."

Beautiful, just beautiful. The AUTOMATIC, HARD-WIRED response of a leftist is to desire increased taxes, and look for evidence that people can pay them. It doesn't even matter that there's an alternative to taxing people in order to provide services for them -- which is, the people providing the services for themselves.

Once you get past about eight years of age, you really should know that the requirement to provide for yourself is not something thought up by mean old white guys to inflict injury on the rest of us. It's a really awesome, gnarly way to live -- best on the planet -- number one in its class -- GO YOU! GO ME! GO US!

dyerje
Rugged individualism? Self determination? The horror of it all. God forbid we teach our kids to practice the principles that made this country great in the first place. what would the gov't do then?

Great post. Thanks

elong
On the money! All taxes are paid by the consumer.

Dread
Re: Your post of 12:18 PM

Are you not aware that revenues have INCREASED since taxes were cut?

I agree that spending must be cut. But right now tax cuts have increased the purchasing power of individuals and reduced unemployment, both of which REDUCE peoples' dependence on gov't programs. And at the same time the tax cuts have increased revenue to the treasury because of the increased economic activity.

In my earlier post I challenged anyone to predict that the Dem Congress will present Bush with an opportunity to sign a balanced budget into law. So far no takers. We all know the Democrats are tax-and spend addicts.

It's real easy to cite the current $8.9 trillion national debt if you want to bash Bush and the Republican Congress. But more than $6.5 trillion of that was created during the 40 consecutive years the Democrats controlled spending prior to fiscal 1995. And another $600 billion occurred from 1995-2000 because Bill Clinton overspent six consecutive budgets by at least $105 billion each.

The cold, hard truth is that until SS is reformed and HHS and other entitlements are cut to reasonable, controllable levels, we will never have a balanced budget or fiscal responsibility.

Good grief -- wise up
It is NOT tax cuts that have lead to increased federal deficits. It is run-away spending -- and that, unfortunately, is no longer just the purview of the tax-and-spend Democrats. For 6 years, the Republican Congress had itself one glorious time spending like a banshee -- or like a Democrat if you prefer.

The relentless taxing and taxing and taxing of the American citizenry MUST stop. Anyone who thinks that the appropriate place to cut budgetary fat is from the Dept. of Defense and the military, instead of the non-stop relentless giveaway and entitlement programs, is simply a -- liberal. And they, for many years prior to the 1990s -- are exactly the people who created the humongous deficit.

elong
That is correct. Robert, defense spending is one of the very few notable federal expenditures that is actually compatible with the Constitution. Most of the money DC spends is on items where it is not supposed to be concerned. I agree about going back to the Moon- huge waste of money and brain power. I disagree with your thoughts on the F-22, however. I read some interviews with several Navy pilots that had to fight the F-22 in their state of the art F/A-18s and they basically admitted that they had their *ss*s handed to them by the Air Force pukes. Air superiority has been proven in every conflict to be the key to controlling the ground war. This fighter is so advanced that nobody, in the entire world, has an answer to it. Anybody fighting against this air superiority wizard is possibly being bankrolled by the USSR or the ChiComs. (And, no, I have NO fiduciary interest in the program. I just love Naval aviation and hate to see the greatest pilots in the world get spanked by the wing wipers.)

Robert
You admitted it! A liberal admitted that tax revenues went up as a result of the Bush tax cuts! So now are you in favor of continuing or even expanding these cuts and cutting spending? Or would you prefer the usual liberal class warfare of "sticking it to the rich"? And, for G*d's sake, don't lecture us on the profligate spending of the GOP-led Congress. We have been complaining for years; we are the reason they got booted out of the majority in the House and Senate (Not the war and certainly not because the American people were hungry for Nancy Pelosi's "leadership"). Conservatives here on TH want less govt and less spending to mirror decreased taxation.

He is lying
Who cares if it is the spending that is causing
the deficits? Who has controlled congress for the last 6 years?

As for income inequity, that is supported by the
Gov own reports, and by real life observations.

Lastly, assume that there is a class warfare
agenda. Then that is too damn bad.

There is nothing illegal about a political position. It is up to the rich to defend themselves.

chiteng
You are so right. It is up to the rich to defend themselves- from sleazy politicians, gummint giveaways and freeloading moochers. Most of the "rich" got there by hard work, determination, sacrifice, taking risks and investing in themselves. Oh, and most avoided wedlock and a family until they could afford it. Look up the facts, less than 10% of millionaires inherited their wealth. And what the h*ll is income inequity? Is that the differenc between my gross pay and my net? Is it the redistribution of my income to others that creates the $1300 difference every payday? The numbers, by the way, show that income is up for all five quintiles and that the Bush tax cuts, proportionally, had a much bigger positive impact on the lowest segments. Of course I got a much bigger reduction in taxes but that is because I pay so much more than most. If decreasing taxes led to increased revenues, particularly from the top 20%, how can a tax increase be about anything BUT class warfare, Chiteng? I will be "rich" someday but I will get there by hard work, perseverence and living well below my means. I don't have to defend myself to others who are less thrifty, intelligent, capable or hard-working.

Robert
Go p*ss in your own boot and stop changing the subject. I agree that less money needs to be spent but you libs ALWAYS extort more money out of the taxpayer for "the kids" and "to fix roads" and then spend the money elswhere. Then, when it is apparent that the road stink or the kids are functional illiterates, you play the same game again. The things you list are arguably legitimate functions of the government. You know darn well that cons want to eliminate federal education spending, the drug program for seniors, entitlement spending, etc. I personally believe in a safety net but it has to be much more limited and not consequence-free. The F15 and F16 are 30 year old airframes. On the ENTERPRISE we had F14s older than the pilots flying them. They wear out, missiles get smarter, Bill Clinton sells defense secrets to the ChiComs, Russia and North Korea develop new fighters, etc. We need to stay on the cutting edge and have total air superiority. This is fact; what you have stated is a guess. The F22 was not develope to counter Saddam but to scare the ChiComs and Russkies into behaving (and it is working- they are scared to death!).

CVN65
You are wasting an awful lot of precious patience.

hmmm
How about phasing out SS, medicare, medicaid, etc. if not then what?

How many have heard the saying about, "paying your fair share of taxes"?

Hmmm so what is your fair share. Give me your percent of what you think you should pay to the Gov in taxes?

So since in 1950 a average family of four paid a average of one dollar in 50 to the US gov in taxes and now it is one dollar in Four. So when does this nitemare stop?

robert
There is enough fraud & waste in government hand out programs to pay for the war. So don't tell us the government can handle our money better than the private sector.

I have seen it (fraud) & i suspect you have also.

Read my 10:02am post!

Middle Class
"My son has had two vice presidencies. My daughter-in-law just became a full partner. Who do you know?"

I know middle-class and working-class people, middle class meaning: $30,000 - $70,000 / year; working-class meaning: paid hourly, $7.50 - $9.50 / hour (but only for the hours worked, which vary week to week). My point is that middle class and working class people have had declining wages (adjusted for inflation) over the past 5-6 years. Additionally, middle class people have seen lifetime jobs become you're lucky you're still employed jobs.

Congratulations on your son and daughter-in-law's success. They are part of the top 1-2% of wage earners in this country, therefore being part of the group that is doing extremely well in the Bush economy. Good for them. Just remember, they are atypical in today's economy.

Ditto for the "ad exec's" from a previous post.

If voters consider only the economy and how they, personally, are doing, the Republicans will have big losses coming in 2008.


Limbaugh
Mr. Limbaugh needs to go up to the Hill to sell this idea. Question for you,Robert, if the DoD budget gets as hacked as you'd like to see it, would that mean no more aircraft for you to test fly? Just wondering.

elong
Your exactly right on the business paying taxes....I am a manager in a small company (54) employees and approximately 40% of our service rates are based on what we pay in licensing fees and taxes, we operate based on a 10% profit goal it sure would be nice to increase empoyee wages if we werent getting slammed be every bureacrat with their hand out. The largest corperation in america is the US Government the bigger they get the more than need to operate. Smaller government is the key too bad the independant party cant become a viable choice in todays politics.

CharlieS
and so many others here have proven that those who call others "liberals" do not even recognize the humanity of same.

They also scream:

socialist
traitor
"these people" (meaning these sub-humans).

Then they say they never name-call, that the libs are "all style no substance." That libs are -------------"gutless."

Is it not hilarious?


Mr. Alpha Town D.D.

SUPPLY-SIDE ECONOMICS


George Bush’s $3 trillion dollar tax giveaway to the rich over the last 6½ years has been a disaster for average Americans. Supply-side (trickle-down) economics is a bogus theory promoted by those who benefit from it. In a mature capitalist system, supply side never rules, it’s always the demand side of the equation that governs growth and well-being. Think about the 1930s Depression, General Motors had plenty of supply, but demand evaporated.

Previous U.S. economic downturns have been cured with only $200 billion in tax cuts targeted to the middle class, because the consumer (the great middle class) spends that tax cut and primes the economic pump. But George Bush has raised the debt that our children and grandchildren will have to pay from almost $6 trillion to almost $9 trillion for current economic growth, which is largely without wage gains, and which has shrunk the middle class that makes America strong and great.

Corporations (the supply side) are now loaded with cash, but there’s no place to spend it because they don’t see any demand. So many corporations are using that cash to buy back their stock – WOW, isn’t supply side wonderful in how it fulfills America’s needs? Meanwhile, the middle class is tapped out, and home values (most of their net worth and the credit card of last resort) are stagnant or falling in price. As the rich-poor divide increases, we’re headed toward previous shining examples of trickle-down economics: South America of the recent past and feudalism in the Middle Ages (South America and feudalism also had no wage gains).

Supply-side economics has sold our kids and grandkids down the river! Short term, Bush’s economic legacy may be recession.

SUPPLY-SIDE ECONOMICS
George Bush’s $3 trillion dollar tax giveaway to the rich over the last 6½ years has been a disaster for average Americans. Supply-side (trickle-down) economics is a bogus theory promoted by those who benefit from it. In a mature capitalist system, supply side never rules, it’s always the demand side of the equation that governs growth and well-being. Think about the 1930s Depression, General Motors had plenty of supply, but demand evaporated.

Previous U.S. economic downturns have been cured with only $200 billion in tax cuts targeted to the middle class, because the consumer (the great middle class) spends that tax cut and primes the economic pump. But George Bush has raised the debt that our children and grandchildren will have to pay from almost $6 trillion to almost $9 trillion for current economic growth, which is largely without wage gains, and which has shrunk the middle class that makes America strong and great.

Corporations (the supply side) are now loaded with cash, but there’s no place to spend it because they don’t see any demand. So many corporations are using that cash to buy back their stock – WOW, isn’t supply side wonderful in how it fulfills America’s needs? Meanwhile, the middle class is tapped out, and home values (most of their net worth and the credit card of last resort) are stagnant or falling in price. As the rich-poor divide increases, we’re headed toward previous shining examples of trickle-down economics: South America of the recent past and feudalism in the Middle Ages (South America and feudalism also had no wage gains).

Supply-side economics has sold our kids and grandkids down the river! Short term, Bush’s economic legacy may be recession.

Based on Johnny Citizen's
post, here is a question:

If, if we were to pay off our national debt, how would we do that--pay in cash or would it be
done by changing numbers on a ledger? Where would this cash come from? Or do we pay it off in
Phil. Cheesesteaks?

In practical terms, how does anyone, even a country of 300,000,000+ individs., manage to ring up a 'debt' of $9,000,000,000,000?

On the face of it, it seems to border on the far edges of total insanity.

Helpa, helpa.




couple of points
For the deluded sheep who support high taxes on income.

In 2006 the top 50% of earners paid 97% of the taxes and earned 83% of the income.

Anyone who has 100 million+ in the bank(or gets large checks like moviestars) *doesn't care* what the top bracket is. Then simpletons come along calling for high taxes to 'stick it to rich people'.
All you are doing it keeping those hardworking people who *slowly* build their income up over a lifetime to NEVER GET RICH. Brilliant.


The ec. has been spectacular
1) lowest unemployment since WW II (4.6%)

2) lowest interest rates since 1950s, until the housing fall; still, more people, including minorities, own their own homes

3) stock market at 14,000--under Jimmy Carter people wondered if it would ever hit 1000

4) millions of new jobs, and each quarter the # of new jobs increases

5) almost zero inflation, meaning your money is worth its face value (inflation has serioudly been controlled since Reagan in 1982); late 70s and early 80s inflation and interest rates were over 10%

6) Lower taxes promote investment, capital gains sales (my father never sold anything because he wasn't going to pay the feds. any more taxes), and more discretionary money for spending

7) in 2006, even our foreign exchange debt is improving

8) the treasury sets records daily on revenues collected (WSJ)

9) deficit (not debt)is only 1.2% of GNP; if Bush' tax breaks are kept, the deficit will be sero by 2010 (WSJ)

10) if Bush tax breaks are allowed to lapse (do not have to be voted out), the average family of 4 earning $60,000 will owe c. $2500 more; DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY ARE THE RICH BEING BENFITED HERE

11) THE LEFT is stuck in 19th socialism and the redistribution of my money to someone else

I am the person in #10. Why should I have to pay another $2500 to the wasteful, bloated, ill managed gov't?

The lower taxes
are, the better. It doesn't take a genius for figure that out (Robert).

All we need to know about
Limbaugh is that he has a very very special interest in the Bush Taxes being extended, right David? After all, where would Rushbo get his pricey Cuban cigars if he didn't have that extra million or two? You've got to figure the "regular guys' Limbaugh bros. are sitting quite high on the hog these days, riding the Bush tax cut for the wealthy wave and playing golf on expensive grounds while the rest of us grunts toil away with nary a blip in our income since BushCo came into office.

WTF
To a large extent, the economy has a lot in common with psychology. Behavioral psychologists observe that when an activity is rewarded it becomes more common and when punished less frequent. In the arena of economic behavior, taxation is a form of punishment. Any activity that is taxed will vary with the rate of taxation. The degree of variance depends on the nature of the activity, but the effect is ubiquitous. The problem with the liberal "revenues only vary with rates" position is that it is based on the assumption that the economy is a static entity, which is just wrong. In reality, the economy is a dynamic system that grows, contracts, and changes constantly. The one distinguishing factor to a dynamic system is a tendency to seek equilibrium. When an activity within the system is inhibited(taxation in economics), the forces that caused that activity do not disappear, they seek another outlet for their expression. This is why every attempt to artifcially manipulate market forces has failed abismally.

Thank you Moonbat Exterminator
Nice to see some cool headed facts. Robert and those who jump in the puddle with him wear out my scroll key.
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