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Friday, July 27, 2007
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Saying What "Progressives" Want to Hear
by David Limbaugh
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Liberals like to think of themselves as "progressives," which is not only a euphemism to avoid the stigma attached to "liberal," but is intended to convey that they are a step ahead of conservatives -- socially, culturally, morally and, not least, intellectually. But have you ever noticed at a presidential debate, like the one last Monday, the types of questions these "progressives" in the audience ask of Democratic candidates, or the types of predictable, vacuous answers they applaud?

Some self-styled progressive elites like to think of red-staters as reality-challenged, but when you observe the progressives in action at these forums, it's hard not to conclude they are driven mainly by emotions and largely ignore reality. If it sounds good, regardless of whether it makes sense in the real world, it will score well. The key ingredient to impressing a progressive is to demonstrate that you care.

If you want to ingratiate yourself to these audiences, just say something brilliant like, "I abhor war," or "Dick Cheney is evil."

If you want to risk a little higher level of sophistication, you can say, "We need to get our troops out of Iraq, where our soldiers are dying in a civil war" -- which, of course, implies we have no stake in the war, which, in turn, implies that our soldiers' deaths have been in vain.

When asked whether our soldiers have died in vain, you can say, like Barak Obama did, "I never think that our troops who do their mission for their country are dying in vain." Or, offer John Edwards' nearly identical response: "I don't think any of our troops die in vain when they go and do the duty that's been given to them by the commander in chief."

These candidates know better than to say our troops died in vain, so they deny they believe it, even though the logical conclusion of their position is that they have. The question isn't whether they followed orders and did their duty but whether the cause they died for was worthwhile. And yet the enlightened progressives in the audience appear completely oblivious to the law of non-contradiction, which holds that it is impossible for something to be both true and untrue at the same time and in the same context.

Or, consider the subject of Darfur, about which a YouTube questioner asked, "Imagine yourself the parent of one of these children (at a refugee camp near Darfur). What action do you commit to that will get these children back home to a safe Darfur?"

Gov. Bill Richardson dutifully included in his answer this gem: "The answer here is caring about Africa. Doing something about poverty, about AIDS, about refugees, about those that have been left behind. That's how we restore leadership in this country." (APPLAUSE). Continued...

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Liberals presume to be progressive
Liberals presume to be progressive -- i.e., their ideas are a step forward. We should not concede this presumption. Their ideas may be retrogressive (a step backward), laterogressive (a step sideways), or even circumgressive (stepping in circles). We should call them on this.

re: conservatives have no memory
Responding to religiouslib:

So religiouslib throws a bunch of things up thinking no one will bother to check whether or not they were actually liberal programs or whether or not they actually worked (or whether or not they took place in the time religiouslib places them)

Interstate Highway System

era: 1950's-present
Eisenhower got the idea for this when he observed the German Autobahn. It was built during his administration. You give liberals credit for this one? Prove it.

GI Bill

era: 1950's
Congress was under Republican control from 1950-1956. You really need to read up on your history. I would argue that this could be considered compensation to the military rather than a social program, but I'll grant that this would take a rather long discussion.

Update: It looks like the G.I. Bill was a 1944 bill. Your timeline is wrong. I stand by my military compensation argument.

Labor Laws

era: 1930's-present
Good grief. These started under the TEDDY Roosevelt administration. FDR expanded them and strengthened the labor unions to the point where corruption and violence were rampant, one of the many things that extended the Great Depression. FDR allowed unions to force competition with other unions out, creating labor monopolies and situations where workers would be forced to join a union to work in their industry and in some cases be allowed not to join but be forced to pay union dues anyway. We could argue at length whether labor unions are ultimately a good thing, but the enforced labor monopolies have done tremendous harm to many workers.

Marshall Plan

era: late 1940's-1950's
I've always thought of The Marshall Plan as an important and successful program, though I have seen that point argued. It did, however, bring with it what will prove an ultimately fatal flaw. Europe since this time has not been responsible for defending itself, pouring its additional public funds into social programs. This has left it weak and more politically liberal, both qualities extending the duration of the Cold War and leaving it tragically vulnerable to Islamofascist terrorism. Europe is likely to be unrecognizable within the next generation or two.

Environmental Laws

era: 1970's-present
Richard Nixon gave us the EPA and most of the modern federal environmental programs. To be accurate, though, that was a very liberal thing to do. I will agree that a tremendous amount of good has been effected taking the liberal position on the environment. However, we've gotten the benefits with conservatives around to try to keep things from getting out of hand. Even so, they've gotten out of hand anyway, and private property rights have been callously violated, domestic energy production has been indefensibly hamstrung, and yes, even some damage to the environment has occurred due to well-meaning but poorly thought out environmental programs. Add to this the banning of DDT based on a histrionic book using a rigged study, resulting in millions of unnecessary malaria deaths around the world. These have not been an unalloyed good.

Food safety laws

era: 1910's-present
1902 Biologic Control Act and 1906 Pure Food and Drug Act. Both during the TEDDY Roosevelt administration. Additional authority was given to the FDA in 1938, but FDR did not create this agency.

Workplace safety laws

era: 1930's-present
Started after 1911 during the WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT administration.

Social Security

era: 1930's-1970's
The greatest Ponzi scheme and economic swindle ever perpetrated on the American people. A retirement subsidy program that generations of Americans came to depend on as their sole pension, this program sucks 12% of every citizen's income (6% of this is employer paid, meaning money that the employer cannot afford to pay the employee as wages) into the federal treasury. There are no accounts and no interest. Its only guarantee is the productivity of the American economy since each generation of retirees is being paid by the current workforce. Like any great pyramid scheme, it depends on more workers than beneficiaries to work at all, and is destined to eventually collapse. Tremendous amounts of capital that could have been put into private pension plans and generated real retirement wealth have been eaten up by this program.

Economic Growth

era: 1950's-1960's
The 1950's were the Eisenhower administration. The early 1960's were the Kennedy administration, and he cut taxes. This was also a post-war industrial boom era, and most of the credit for it must go to the private entrepreneurs of the time, not to the federal government. You say the 1980's were a pseudo-boom. I say, "prove it." I expect you'll pull out the rich got richer, poor got poorer canard, which is dishonest to the core. All classes improved their situation, but when a millionaire suddenly goes from 1 million to 2 million, and a poor man goes from 8 thousand to 16 thousand, then both men have doubled their income, but the "wage gap" between them has increased. This is the basis for the entirely disingenuous rich-richer, poor-poorer argument.

Space Program

era: 1950's-present
Kennedy started the space program. This tax-cutting, cold warrior started the space program. I say look at the man's policies and tell me that he would not be considered a conservative today. Didn't the space program evolve from the military, by the way?

Peace corps

era: 1960's-present
And this has done exactly what wonderful things that make its accomplishments so self-evident? Is it more effective than any of the thousands of private interests and charities that do exactly the same things that it is designed to do? Has it indeed created "peace" anywhere?

Civil rights movement

era: 1950's-present
Sorry, you get no credit for this one. Brown vs. Board of Education was in 1954, and enforced by Eisenhower. The politics that divided politicians on this one were not conservative versus liberal. This was about constitutional rights. A person's liberal or conservative political leanings were no indication of where they stood on this issue.

The fight against Totalitarianism

era: always
Hysterical. Liberals have fought tooth and nail to excuse totalitarianism the world over. The Cold War was won in spite of them, not because of them. Walter Durante of the New York Times covered up for Stalin's purges and showered praises on the Soviet Union for years. The last liberal who can be given any credit for this at all is Truman. How many liberals care much about the totalitarianism of Castro or Kim Jong-Il? For that matter, what about Saddam Hussein and the Iranian mullahs? Liberals are endlessly finding moral equivalence between us and the tyrants. Fighting totalitarianism? How can you possibly write that with a straight face? Liberals are inexhaustible apologists for it. And don't give me any of that "we were all fighting the Cold War together" crap that I'm hearing more and more of these days. I'm old enough to remember the 1970s and 1980s. Liberals were apologists for the Soviet Union and did everything they could to undermine our side in the Cold War. Reagan was not considered by liberals to be courageous at the time for saying, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" He was considered foolish, dangerous, and bellicose.

The Internet

era: 1960's-present
ARPANET was a military program. I recall the military as one of those constitutionally mandated functions of government, unlike, say, Medicare.

The Tennessee Valley project

era: 1930's
The Tennessee valley was already being served by the Tennessee Electric Power company, which the TVA drove out of business. The TVA act outlawed competition in the area, and subsidized the price of electricity for the people there with tax dollars - tax dollars extracted by struggling workers elsewhere. Even so, it didn't work. The last of the dams was completed in 1940, too late to have an impact on the local communities. According to a study by energy economist William Chandler in 1983, economic growth in the surrounding border states, where people did not get their electricity from the TVA, equalled or surpassed growth within the Tennessee Valley. He concluded that "Among the nine states of the southeastern United States, there has essentially been an inverse relationship between income per capita and the extent to which the state was served by the TVA. ...Watershed counties in the seven TVA states, moreover, are poorer than the non-TVA counties in these states." TVA, you see, gave people an incentive to remain in agriculture while their neighbors were moving to the manufacturing and service industries, which offered higher incomes. This was one of a string of examples of government self-promotion, reducing economic prosperity to a single factor and taking credit for whatever results from government largesse, when in fact the private power producers in neighboring areas provided more capacity in a shorter period of time than the government and TVA.

Women's right to vote

era: 1920's-present
This was a liberal issue? Prove it. Like civil rights, I say this crossed the lines of political persuasion.

Universal Public Education

era: 1890's-present
Extracts tremendous amounts of taxpayer money providing our students with some of the lowest test scores in the industrialized world at a per capita cost far higher than that of the other industrialized nations. Its benefit has waxed and waned over the decades. Private education has far out-performed it, and I would argue that most of the fruits of middle class labor have been produced by private initiative in education, not from the public schools. You say conservatives have greatly weakened the public school system? I say, "prove it." What have they done? The public school system is more highly funded than anywhere else in the world, and liberals OWN public eduction in this country. The teachers unions are fully liberal and participate in liberal activism with their members' dues. All major education initiatives are liberal ones. All the values being promoted are secular, liberal ones. Where in God's name have conservatives even been able to make a dent in all of this in 40 years?

National Weather Service

era: 1930's-present
A useful service. I'll bet if I scratch the surface I'll find out it was originally a military project. This is a liberal initiative? Prove it.

Update: Never mind. I found out that it WAS originally a military project and it started in the 1870's!! From http://www.weather.gov/pa/history/index.php:

"The beginning of the National Weather Service we know today started on February 9th, 1870, when President Ulysses S. Grant signed a joint resolution of Congress authorizing the Secretary of War to establish a national weather service. This resolution required the Secretary of War 'to provide for taking meteorological observations at the military stations in the interior of the continent and at other points in the States and Territories...and for giving notice on the northern (Great) Lakes and on the seacoast by magnetic telegraph and marine signals, of the approach and force of storms'"

Scientific Research

era: 1940's-present
Give me a BREAK. Private scientific research has far out-performed publicly funded research. Publicly funded research has been just as likely to throw billions in taxpayer dollars into projects that are scientifically unpromising (which is why they can't find private backers) but politically popular.

Product Labeling/Truth in Advertising Laws

era: 1910's-present
This has pros and cons. I will grant that there is some usefulness to these, and some unnecessary expense inflicted on business, as well as increasing the likelihood of corporate espionage. But there is a point that is starting to become confusing. Are you trying to suggest that if something comes from government, then it must have been created by liberals? I don't think that is the case, and again, I'd like to see proof that this was a liberal initiative. I'm not familiar with this subject, but it sounds very much like another Teddy Roosevelt initiative.

Public Health

era: 1910's-present
Water and sewage are legitimate services of local government, and are delivered by local governments. Please explain how this is a liberal concept. Ancient Rome delivered water and sewage. This sort of public hygiene was lost during the dark ages, not to re-emerge until roughly the 19th century. Also, there is no evidence that these services cannot be delivered privately. In fact, in many areas they are. I will not argue the benefits of the NIH and CDC, but again, are these liberal initiatives? I'm getting the sense that you're giving credit based on a timeline and your timeline is not always correct. Where it is correct it's not necessarily Wilson or Roosevelt who deserve the credit. As far as vaccination goes, this is a good and successful program, but government is in the process of wrecking it by undermining the vaccination industry. A Hillary Clinton initiative intended to reduce the price of vaccinations has forced most of the manufacturers out of the business, leaving us very vulnerable to supply problems.

Morrill Land Grant Act

era: late 1800's
Is this what we have to blame for these land grant schools where the money keeps coming in so long as they never stop building, creating an incentive for endlessly destroying and rebuilding on campus, wasting public funds for no positive reason whatsoever? Thanks for bringing that up. This has done absolutely nothing that private money couldn't have done far more efficiently. Government subsidy of education is the primary reason university costs rise all out of proportion to the rate of inflation. This is the primary reason for the rise of community colleges and it is a system destined to collapse because the prices will soon be too high for most families to meet even with massive debt.

Rural Electrification

era: 1930's-1960's
Please. This is going to the TVA well twice. I've already addressed the TVA.

Public Universities

era: 1890's-present day
And this is going to the Morill Land Grant Act well twice.


Bank Deposit Insurance

era: 1930's-present day
Bringing up the FDIC is an amazing act of chutzpah. This is government at its finest: creating an institution to fix a problem that government itself created. The Federal Reserve was created to eliminate the need for Bank Holidays, the banking industry's response to prevent bank runs. With the Federal Reserve in place, banks were disallowed from declaring Bank Holidays and the bank runs went completely out of control. Eventually the Federal Reserve itself declared a bank holiday, thus solidying the irony of its own existence. The Federal Reserve was one of the major contributing factors to what should have been a sharp recession instead becoming the Great Depression. The FDIC fulfills no role that a private insurance company could not fill, and a private company would be far more fastidious about accountability and auditing than the federal government. It would also honor claims out of its own cash reserves, rather than getting them from the money of taxpayers. Should the economy suffer a sharp downturn, relying on tax revenue for bailouts is a very risky gamble, considering that tax revenue depends on the income of the people themselves.

Earned Income Tax Credit

era: 1970's-present day
"Reduces the tax burden for working families who make under $28,500.00 You have to earn income to get it. It is not a handout. "
This is an amazing example of pure B.S. You can only make this claim if you have no idea where money comes from. This is not a tax refund. The people who get it earned an income, but they did not earn the money that is coming from this credit. That money was earned by other people who PAY TAXES. This is simply taking money from higher-wage earners and giving it to lower-wage earners. You can call it many things - including that it is probably preferable to out-and-out welfare - but it most decidedly IS a handout. OTHER people earned this money.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

era: 1940's-present day
This is the third item you've brought up twice. I'm going to assume that you lost track at this point and are not simply trying to "pad the resume."

Family and Medical Leave Act

era: 1993-present day
This is simply another unsupported cost on business. Economic times have been very good, and it has been borne with minimal strain. This will probably not be the case during bad economic times. In fact, the loss of productivity this sort of thing causes may have increased business failures and job losses during the most recent recession. So it is likely that this is not an unalloyed good. Maybe it is a good thing, in the end, but I'll reserve judgment until someone produces a study on its practical effects. It has all the appearance of a feel-good policy that is likely to cost jobs.

Consumer Product Safety Commission

era: 1972-present day
Nixon was president in 1972. I'm not an authority on this subject beyond that.

Public Broadcasting

era: 1930's-present day
Millions of children have learned from their mothers and fathers, churches, and Captain Kangaroo. Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers would very likely have found audiences on commercial television in the absence of PBS. Commercial television and now cable television far, far outweigh the educational opportunities afforded by public television. It is unnecessary and sanctimonious, floating many a program that couldn't find an audience if not for government subsidy. What public broadcasting produces more than anything else is unalloyed liberalism. It is unsurprising that a liberal would find PBS and NPR culturally enriching. I say cut them loose and let them fend entirely in the marketplace. NPR in particular is embarassingly liberal.

Americans With Disabilities Act

era: 1990-present day
This is not civil rights for disabled citizens. It is mandated public accommodation for them. That may be a good and virtuous thing, but it is not civil rights. This is a George Herbert Walker Bush era law. I'm not sure whether to credit liberals for it or not. It is not an unalloyed good. It has inflicted many unnecessary costs on business for the sole purpose of avoiding lawsuits. For every reasonable accommodation, there are many that are never used but are there "just in case." Is there really a need for Braille on drive-through ATMs? That being said, I think public accommodations for the disabled is a reasonable expectation, as long as reason is being used to implement it.
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