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Tuesday, November 28, 2006
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Reuniting the conservative base
by David Limbaugh
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It seems like everyone wants to be like Ronald Reagan these days -- at least those with presidential aspirations. Gov. Mitt Romney says he's a Reagan Republican, and so does John McCain -- amazingly. Some Democrats even identify with the Gipper.

Indeed, mainstream conservatives, present company included, believe Republicans should revert to Reagan conservatism. But this will be easier said than done given the different set of problems facing the nation today, the sharp disagreements among those who each claim to represent Reagan conservatism and the lack of a clear leader of the conservative movement.

President Bush has been quite conservative on certain highly important issues such as taxes and foreign policy. But he has never even purported to be a movement guy and has sometimes dissociated himself from mainstream conservatism, as with his insistence that he's a "compassionate conservative."

Apparently his idea of "compassionate conservatism" is that the government should stay big and intrusive in the domestic spending department, but it should spend the money in ways presumably more palatable to conservatives, such as on the faith-based initiative or by demanding standards in education.

But the point here is neither to rehash the merits of "compassionate conservatism" nor to criticize (or praise) President Bush for having promoted it. Rather, it is to demonstrate that the very idea of conservatism under President Bush's tenure has been muddled. If the movement is to be reunited and reignited, a leader or group of leaders must emerge both to redefine the message and rally the grass roots.

President Bush could give that effort a significant boost if he were to promote a truly conservative agenda the next two years on those domestic issues to which he has pledged his solemn vow of conservatism.

Granted, no matter what happens on domestic issues, the myriad problems concerning the war on terror, including and especially Iraq, will remain and have to be addressed. But the war is no excuse to succumb to lame-duck inertia on vital domestic issues.

On the domestic side President Bush could aggressively push to make the income tax cuts permanent, finally eliminate or drastically reduce the estate tax and aggressively pursue entitlement and health care reform by seeking to increase privatization, consumer choice and market forces in both. We could bank on the Democratic congressional majority's fierce opposition. The stage would be set for a showdown between the president (and the congressional minority) and the congressional majority.

But rumors are circulating -- and have gained a measure of credibility with a recent op-ed from the president's former economic advisor, Lawrence Lindsey -- that President Bush is considering compromising on his no-tax-increases policy in exchange for cooperation from Democrats on entitlement reform.

If the rumors are true and the president does cave on the income tax issue -- even if it involves only the payroll tax and even if done for the noble goal of achieving much-needed entitlement reform, conservatives will be livid. Though few conservatives expect pure Reagan conservatism from President Bush -- mainly because he always telegraphed that he wasn't quite the purist -- we certainly do expect him to be true to his supply side ideology.

He couldn't have been clearer in the last six years about his unwavering commitment to reducing the income tax burden across the board. He couldn't have been clearer that he had learned from and would not repeat his father's no-new-taxes betrayal.

Despite the president's shortcomings, most of us have believed that he had the savvy not to fall for any Democratic ploy like his dad did to rationalize breaching such a firm and unequivocal promise. Bush 41, you will recall, reneged on his no-new-taxes pledge because congressional Democrats fraudulently promised, as an inducement, to reduce spending -- another conservative bugaboo.

History would be playing a cruel joke if Bush 43 were to do almost the exact same thing for the sake of progress on the entitlement bugaboo. But it will be far worse if 43 breaches, because so many of us have been convinced that he -- as distinguished from his "kinder and gentler" father -- is genuinely committed to supply side economics.

The best course President Bush could pursue for the nation, for the GOP and for his own presidential legacy is to redouble his efforts to achieve income tax, capital gains tax, estate tax, entitlement and health care reform -- all while initiating true domestic spending cuts.

Even if he fails on one or more of these, he still will have gone a long way toward reuniting the base -- at least the economic conservatives -- and serving up a black and white issue for the GOP presidential and congressional candidates in 2008, especially if he uses his bully pulpit to expose the demagoging class warriors on the left for who they are.

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The conservative base....
is united. They always have been. They just lack a political party, that's all.

After Reagan, Republican and Conservative were as interchangeable as liberal and democrat are today. Now, when you vote for anyone with an "R" after their name, you don't know what you're getting. And if they actually do hold conservative beliefs, they won't have the spine to act on them.

This loss that the Repubs were handed was a necessary evil. I voted, and I encouraged everyone to do so for the Repubs because the Demonstrates are still worse, but "we aren't as bad as them" never really won any elections.

Buck2 is delusional
I think Buck2 drank too much of Al Gore's Kool Aid regarding paying off the deficit. Too bad that we can't go beyond that. The tax receipts are not static; we would have a GDP more like 2002 without the 2003 tax cuts. And even at the Clinton tax rates that wouldn't even cover the deficit. Let's not get into the fact that Clinton made the surplus by underfunding the military; if it were funded at today's rate, the Clinton deficit would have been nearly as large.

What we need as a country is a massive cut in entitlements. It is ludicrous to believe that we should be supporting people far above their contributions to a retirement program, and that medical care should become a right for all people. These are typical sophistries of the left; the sad fact is that we could spend 100% of GDP on social programs and that still wouldn't be enough for the people who "feel my pain". The major pain to ALL Americans is the 14% of earnings going into retirenent and medical plans which are projected to go broke in the next 30 and 5 years respectively.

If the left weren't so hell-bent on punishing the rich, they would embrace the Fair Tax which would cure many of these problems, and would also solve another one. It is too bad that the left as a group has not figured out that Ted Kennedy, Heinz-Kerry, Ted Turner, and other bastions of their cause do not pay their fair share of taxes because of various shelters which they publicly decry but privately invest in. How millionaires who live a life style well above the middle class manage to pay much less than the 38% which liberals think is fair would become a cause celebre among them if they truly believed in social justice.

Instead, the liberal approach is to punish people who get paid salaries rather than making the people living off from "old money" pay for the nirvana which they think they are creating. A tax on goods and services in the range of 20-25% with a rebate of the first $40,000 would make these people pay their fair share based upon their consumption of goods and services rather than being allowed to sequester inherited money which has escaped the Death Tax because of all sorts of finagaling.

If you doubt that rich people escape the death tax, go to the Pennsylvania court records and look at what was paid in taxes on the Heinz estate due to creative dodges. To quote from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Friday, April 1, 2005:
"The records show Heinz had about $359 million in cash, stocks and personal property, among other things, in his name at the time of his death. His total assets, which included some jointly owned property not subject to probate, totaled about $423 million before being disbursed; the estate paid about $41 million in federal estate taxes and $17 million in state death taxes."

You can compare this with the 1991 law, which states that a tax of 15-55% should have been paid, with the tax being at 55% on all assets above $1,000,000. Tax fairness is obviously not at work here.

The "buck2"'s of the world...
... believe tax revenues vs tax rates are a zero sum game.

If taken all the way to a "logical" conclusion, there should be no more jobs today than, say, in 1950...

To paraphrase one of our past conservative champions (the 40th President), "It's not that the people are taxed too little, it's that government spends too much."

:-)

We need to get rid of Social Security
In addition to fighting to get his tax cuts made permanent, the President needs to go all the way with a complete re-structering of the SS system.
Any politician proposing to take 14& of a person's income and paying them back [maybe]such a pittance would be run out of town on a rail..It is a Ponzi scheme pure and simple, designed as a vote buying scheme for dems it has worked for years, but the chickens are coming home to roost.
I have sent the below to anyone I thought would consider it including the President. It will work, my son aced his MBA thesis on it.Now if only the pols had our best interest at hand.

Proposal to re-structure Social Security

1. Shift all workers under age 45 to a new system based on the current Federal Employees Retirement System and credit them with all the monies they have currently paid into the present system. The infrastructure is already in place which reduces the cost of the changeover.

2. All FICA taxes they pay from that day forward is paid into their accounts and they are free to designate which of the three funds those monies will be invested in depending on their risk tolerance as federal employees currently do and the accounts would be theirs and governed by the same rules as the FERS.

3. All FICA taxes paid in by employers goes to the current system for a minimum of 20 years to maintain funding. A re-evaluation at the 20 year period will determine when those taxes will begin to be paid to the participants but in no manner will they be retained by government once the changeover is complete.

4.All workers over age 45 will remain in the current system but will be age indexed for participation in the new system. For every year they are under age 65 they will be allowed to place 5% of their FICA taxes in an account as the under 45 year olds will do. ie a 55 year old person will have half of his/her FICA taxes going into the new account and half going into the current system.
At retirement they will be able to draw from both accounts with any monies in the new system governed by it's rules and therefore owned by them.

5. Current retirees will be unaffected and will be governed by the rules now in place thereby losing nothing.

6. This system will over a 20 year time frame become a phase out of Social Security as presently constituted as the majority of present retirees will have died. It will bolster the economy by freeing up capital for investment and create jobs thereby increasing revenue flow to the gov't and will solve the problem that we face with the current system which will be in the red by 2015. This system should preclude raising taxes or the retirement age, both of which will have to be done in the near future and are an untenable solution as we are bringing new people into a system that is no longer viable.



Please....
Rustyguns, If Bush's Social Security reforms were "fake" and a "money grab scam"; then could you please define for me exactly what the current Social Security Plan could best be described as??? If you're satisfied with the current rate of return you are receiving on social security then I have a few other "investments" that I would like to show you for your consideration.

God forbid that individuals would actually have the ability to keep and invest a portion of their own money!

Buck2
This is a fallacy regarding tax cuts. The media and dems would have you believing something that isn't true. If you're willing to read this assessment, it will open your eyes:

The left will have people believe that taxing the top 5% of income producers at more than 33% will provide all the necessary supports and services needed for the bottom 20% on income producers. Along a more conservative fiscal viewpoint, I am of the position that a 33% tax on the highest of incomes is the maximum cap beneficial to all Americans. When investors are taxed at 33% and less, they continue to place capital into ventures which result in more products, increased services, increased salaries, new employment opportunities, an increase in GDP and therefore an increase in tax revenues for the federal government.

The left also slants the analysis of the numbers to make the tax benefit to the “rich” appear to be grossly in favor of the “rich” at the expense of all the rest of the American tax payers. Here is an overly simplified, hypothetical microcosm which best represents my point. In my fictional country there are 2 people. Person number one makes $50,000 in taxable income at a 10% tax bracket resulting in $5,000 and person number two makes $500,000 in taxable income at a 50% tax bracket resulting in $250,000. The newly proposed tax plan will reduce person number one’s tax burden by 3% lowering the final tax to $3,500. Person number two will receive a 2% reduction lowering the final tax to $240,000. All of the following statements would be correct about this scenario:

· Conservative View

Lower income tax burdens dropped 150% more than higher income tax burdens.

50% of the lowest income population received a higher tax reduction than the richest 50%

Middle income tax payers are paying only $3,500 on average while the upper 50% of income producers are paying $240,000 of their income. Is it fair that one group is paying so much more in taxes?

The upper 50% of income producers are paying 98.5% of the total dollars in taxes paid.

· Liberal View

The total tax savings to all Americans is $11,500. The rich received 87% of the tax reductions.

President Bush’s tax relief plan reflects this basic trust in the American people and confidence in the American ideal by increasing tax fairness and enhancing the performance of the economy.

It includes:

·Replacing the current tax rates of 15, 28, 31, 36, and 39.6 percent with a simplified rate structure of 10, 15, 25, and 33 percent

·Reducing the marriage penalty by reinstating the 10 percent deduction for two-earner couples

·Eliminating the death tax

·Expanding the charitable deduction to non-itemizers

·Making the Research and Experimentation (R&D) tax credit permanent.

·Cuts the current 15 percent tax bracket to 10 percent for the first $6,000 of taxable income for singles, the first $10,000 for single parents, and the first $12,000 for married couples

·Doubles the existing child tax credit to $1,000 and applying the credit to the AMT.

Lastly about taxes
Here is a quote from a leftist news site which is true yet very misleading:

“Today, the Office of Management Budget projected a $296 billion federal deficit for fiscal year 2006. Bush held a press conference arguing that this is a vindication of his economic policies.

Actually, it would be the fourth largest deficit of all time. Here’s the top five:

1. 2004 (George W. Bush) $413 billion
2. 2003 (George W. Bush) $378 billion
3. 2005 (George W. Bush) $318 billion
4. 2006 (George W. Bush) $296 billion (projected)
5. 1992 (George H. W. Bush) $290 billion”

Here is a quote from a more conservative paper:

“At $296 billion, the 2006 deficit would still be the fourth largest in dollar terms in the nation's history. But as 2.3 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP), it is smaller than the deficits in 17 of the past 25 years.
It also puts the president ahead of schedule to cut the deficit in half by 2009, compared with where it was in 2004 when he made the vow.”

The OMB chart’s comparison of deficits in relation to GDP are the most relevant here. If you believe the projected deficits for 2008 and 2009 are the result of the Bush plan, then you would have to come to the conclusion that lower taxes did stimulate the economy enough in 2-years to effectively wipe much of the current deficit. I, along with other fiscal conservatives, argue that Bush and the Republican controlled Congress have been over spending as well. It was warranted to increase government spending the first two years after 9/11. However, the time has passed for us to return back to responsible budgeting within our means.

Religion
The other thing that Conservatives need to do is get off the platform of talking about religion when they are campaigning. This issue is way too diverse and no two people can evenly agree on who's god, what god, who said what, when...yadda, yadda, yadda.

It would serve them better to bring more of the centered conservatives/liberals to vote in their direction, but if they keep pounding this drum it will be their demise,I assure you.

While most people respect an individual's right to engage in their religion and enjoy it, most people don't want their government endorsing religion or attempting to start governing from that place.

There's a huge difference in having religion as part of your life with the ability to separate it from your understanding of government, and invoking god, god's will, etc. into your understanding of government.

Additionally, every time it comes up and there's a scandal or hint of scandal, Conservatives will lose the public opinion/argument every time because their religious views are equal to standing on a soapbox of self-righteousness which most centratrists(sp)both liberal and conservative, disdain.

Social Security
This should be eliminated from our taxes and should be eliminated from our "government handouts".

It is more important that individuals be responsible for their own health/wealthfare than having government engaged in it.

What did people do before Social Security?

Families took care of one another, which fosters more family unity - isn't this important to some of you?

People made do with what they had and not what they couldn't afford - isn't this better fiscal responsibility for everyone?

Social programs can be funded by charities much like they are now and the handout society will no longer exist at least within government.


If you want smaller government the only way to get government out of our lives then is to become more independent and be responsible/accountable for our own lives on all levels.

One more thought on Social Sec.
The tax money that you pay now would end up in your "take home" pay so that you could decide for yourself where to invest that money.

If you blow all your money without fostering some savings then aren't you responsible for the fact that you have to work until your 70 years old and eat cat food as a result?

Why should society be responsible for poor choices in life?

If you end up without savings then you'll be forced to engage in the charities that would be privately funded and take advantage of those options. And what does it mean when we "take advantage" of something or someone?....yeah, think about that statement.

What's the alternative about religion?
Become Humanatarians.

Work towards the good of ALL people regardless of religion, race, sex or sexual preference.

If you adopt this premise you will find a movement in this country that will be more powerful than any particular political party because people understand the "benefit to all" and not to just some who happen to be "lucky" enough.

This doesn't mean dump your religion, it just means you stop unsolicited witnessing in the public forum where most people believe this issue is a personal one between the individual and his/her god or interpretation of god, jesus, et. al.

too little too late
The republicans had the chance to privitise social security, School vouchers, get rid of the tax code/IRS and they FAILED THEM ALL.

They are a MISERABLE FAILURE. They failed the conservatives that put them there.

Now David is saying Bush should push for these things? WOW lets start working strategies with 10 seconds left at our 5 yard line!

Too bad.

scooternyc
Rustbucket, read and learn.

When I was in school, many years ago, we were taught that when social security was first initiated most old people lived with their children or other family members. Because they had no retirement savings they were a usually burden on the family. Therefore, I was taught, social security was initially created to give those ancient ones a little financial independence to help pay their keep or whatever. It was never intended to be a retirement plan in and of itself.

A quick question. If social security is so great in it's current form (it must be because when Bush suggested changing it the libs fought unbelievably hard to keep it from changing, and won the fight) why is it that the libs always site social security receipiants having to decide between Alpo and rent/medicine/heat/electricity (fill in the blank)?

Taxes and spending
Too much of the national discussion on the budget, as exemplified by Buck2's post and Rustyguns' post, is centered around confusion about what "the deficit" is.

Buck2 says the "deficit" would not exist if it weren't for the tax cuts, but then points out that we are paying enormous amounts of interest on the "deficit".

But the interest is not being paid on just "the deficit" (as identified by Buck2). It is being paid on the entire natioanl debt.

To clarify, as used by Buck2 the "deficit" is amount spent in a single fiscal year in excess of receipts for that year. The "national debt", as used by me, is the accumulation of all deficits over the years and is the total amount borrowed by the federal government from lenders and still owed.

Libs like Buck2 and Rustyguns repeatedly talk about the "deficit" under Bush, but steadfastly ignore the "national debt", which rose from $290 billion to over $6 trillion between 1960 and 1994. During the entirety of this era of excess spending the House, where all spending originates, was controlled by the Democrats. Nealy all of the entitlements, which comprise more than 63% of the budget, were enacted under Democrat Presidents Roosevelt (the New Deal) and Lyndon Johnson (the Great Society).

The so-called "surplus" under Clinton never actually existed. The only "surplus" that was ever discussed was a projected surplus that would have existed if the economy had continued to grow at the rate it did from 1995-1998 at the same (higher) tax rates. But the economy couldn't grow at that rate with those tax rates, so we got the Clinton recession instead.

To make matters worse, the balanced budgets of the 90's were budgets, not actual spending. Even though the budget was balanced for six years running, the national debt increased every year because actual spending exceeded what was budgeted and actual receipts did not increase enough to make up the difference.

scooternyc
I just noticed how my last post started. I wasn't calling you rustbucket, I was trying to call his attention to the post.

George Bush is not...
...a true conservative. He is, was, and always be a moderate...just like dear old 41. It should come as no surprise that he would sell us out on taxes; after all, look at his efforts to 'secure' the borders! In this case, the apple did not fall far from the tree!

What Conservative Base?
I've got news for you loyal Bushbots: The GOP has committed suicide.

After the bloodbath of 11/7, many conservatives waited to see if the GOP had learned its lesson. It did not. By appointing open border and S. 2611 architect Mel Martinez as head of the RNC, the GOP only rubbed salt into the open wounds of its base. By keeping the same old porksters and lobbyist loving wheeler dealers in key leadership positions, the GOP effectively signaled a "birdie" to the base.

The GOP is the biggest spending party since LBJ and by creating new entitlements, the GOP is Sovietizing America. Heck, any president that makes the Clintonista gang look like Reagan Republicans is pure concentrated evil.

The GOP has lost the Libertarian voters, the Constitutional conservatives, the independent voters, the moderate Dems and even a growing chunk of the non-socialist religious conservatives.

What's left? Not much.

Meanwhile, the shrinking base is waking up to the wholesale sellout of America via the North American Union and the absolute determination of the Bushbots to merge Mexico with America, and wipe out the American middle class. It's no more than a planned march toward global socialism under UN/CFR rule.

Those who deify Bush like Hannity, Limbaugh, Ingraham and every other radio talk show host should be doing some serious soul searching. These folks actually colluded with Bush, his secretive agenda and his shadow government. Moreover, by protecting a corrupt Congress, they too sold out the conservative base and America. And now Limbaugh opines that he no longer has to be the water carrier for Rinos? The mighty mouth that carried the vile waters since 1994 remains just as arrogant and ever.

The GOP had a small window of opportunity to mend its evils ways by installing newer and younger leadership like Pence, Shadegg, Flake, Steve King, Coburn and a few others but instead it opted for "business as usual".

The problem with Townhall, Free Republic, gopusa.com and similar groups is that they have lost credibility with the conservative base for refusing to address critical issues like the cost of illegal immigration, the loss of American manufacturing, the sovereignty slashing treaties like LOST,the WTO and other boondoggles that are specifically designed to abolish American law and sovereignty.

I assure you that the base is awake and alert. One of the most well respected conservative organizations is Eagle Forum and not for its social conservatism. Eagle Forum and Phyllis Schlafly have gained a huge following from folks formerly hostile to the religious right for its reporting on the global governance, LOST, UN/Unesco education, the NAU and a slew of issues not covered by mainstream GOP think tanks and organizations.

The problem with the base is that it no longer has a political party. The base has gone independent.

Other than tossing out the newly selected leadership, distancing itself from Bush and uttering profound mea culpas, the GOP will remain on life support but most assuredly, the bloodbath of 08 will be far worse than the bloodbath of 06.

You want us back? Give us an honest Constitutional small government party and a Congress that that is far more than a backdoor flophouse that trades taxpayer largess to lobbyists and their clients in exchange for having their campaign coffers filled with dirty money.

When "We the People" start to mean something to the GOP, only then will the people flock back to the party that has disgraced itself with treason and corruption.

Kraut
I got that, but thanks for clarifying.

Cheers!

Kraut, good points the echo my sentiments. The reason behind the "you'll have to eat cat food" is to scare people. If you frighten them with their very survival, then you can manipulate them into voting for you.

When you think of it, the behavior is really sick and diseased on too many levels. It's too bad the public doesn't think in those terms of a "diseased" mind how deep the level of disease is when someone threatens others in this way.

Best thing that could happen
"The problem with the base is that it no longer has a political party. The base has gone independent."

Being polarized on issues and in political parties is never a good idea. Better to find common ground where everyone's best interests are in mind, not just a majority that leaves out a minority; and not a minority that ignores a majority.

If you think about life in general, it's always attempting to find homeostasis, so doesn't that make sense that politics should be the same?

Dead Duck

.....Limbaugh...

.....As far as conservatives are concerned Bush is not a lame duck... he is a dead duck...

.....Bush will accomplish nothing in his final two years unless it fits the Democrat agenda... like minimum wage and amnesty...

.....it is up to the conservatives in Congress and the Senate to stymie the Democrat/Bush alliance and hope for a strong conservative in '08 to rescue the Republican Party.....COLOSSUS

My Social Security Reform Plan
Gunny G, we can all debate the particulars of any and every social security reform plan; but one thing is for sure, ANYTHING is better than what we have! That there is anyone with even an ounce of intellect and common sense that would try to defend the current system is a testament to the failed education system in this country.

If I were king, then my reform plan would consist of the social security plan that was laid out in the original constitution -- in other words...NOTHING! Eliminate the program and let individuals keep and invest their own money. Personal responsiblity -- I know that is a difficult concept for libs. I know that it is also hard for libs to fathom that an individual knows and cares more about their retirement then the politicians and bureacrats that set up and administer these elaborate transfer schemes.

Sammy & GunnyG
I agree that SS is a scam, as I said it's a Ponzi scheme that if we were to try it would land us in jail. But we have to deal with it.
When SS was started it was promised that no one would pay more than 1% of the 1st 1400 dollars [I think]look where we are now. Also the minimum age to draw the money was 65 and like expectancy was around 63. FDR put everyone over 65 on it immediately therefore getting their votes.
He could have set up a real program like I suggested, but that would have created a bunch of very wealthy retirees and they would have become Republicans who would not be dependant on the gov't.
It was all about politics then as it is now, the dems know this thing will implode, they cannot be THAT stupid. Trouble is they're all pols, they took the money under LBJ for the "great society" and left IOU's and nobody wants to own up to it or point fingers.
If Bush wants a true legacy, he needs to fight for total privatization, he'll be a hero to all true conservatives.

Social Security
Social Security is yet another illustration that the President's conception of conservatism threatens to render the word meaningless. The President proposes to reform Social Security. Any conservative knows that government programs do nothing more than wipe out real funds through waste, mismanagement, and general inefficiency. A government program cannot be reformed because it will remain, by definition, a wasteful abyss. Abolishment of Social Security is the only "fix."

Furthermore, allowing people to invest a portion of their Social Security tax in the market is a terrible idea. Government collected funds channelled into the markets gives the government influence in the capital markets that nobody should be comfortable with. Is it inconceivable that a congressperson would attach a rider to a transportation bill requiring .005% of the Social Security "investment" funds purchase the bond issuing of that congressperson's brother's defense information systems consulting company, because that company's fiscal solvency is in the national interest? How about congress passing a law that no Social Security "investments" are to be allowed to purchase equity in tobacco companies?

The President is an Evangelical-reform-minded liberal who believes that the power of the Federal government can be used for noble ends--not what I voted for.

Tax Cuts worthless if we keep on spendin
What good are tax cuts, if it's only a few hundred dollars less than before and you really don't feel it.
Massive cuts in federal spending and federal agency eliminations is what will be required to get my conservative vote.
Repubs had the Congress and The White House, yet they couldn't get the job done.

I do agree that Repubs will have to have a clear plan for America like they did when they purposed the "Contract with America", but with a provision this time that says if they don't get the job done, they we leave politics forever and/or take paycuts while in office awaiting banishment from politics forever.

Bush conservative on issues?
So tiny, temporary income tax reductions and starting wars with no end is what passes for conservative today? How far have conservatives fallen?

Bush's tax policy is a repudiation of the stated conservative position of real tax reform.
Bush's foreign policy is as anemic and cowardly as LBJ's.

Republicans are only paying lip-service to tax reform and tough foreign policy the same as they are only paying lip-service to small government and strong borders. There are no Reagan Republicans on the national scene.

http://freedomistheanswer.blogspot.com/

GunnyG's Returns
Please don't feel good about your 10% returns. Bear in mind that you need to discount that by taxes and currency depreciation to get your real dollar value return. Assuming taxes of 20% and currency depreciation of 3% (I won't vouch for these numbers--just rough estimates), a 10% return becomes, roughly, a 5% return.

I just hate in when good people (thinking of my grandfather now) think they're achieving great returns from their mutual funds.

Seawolf
Your plan is good but we have a glaring problem that could be solved right along with Social Security.

Workers pensions, both company & union, are negotiated as cents per hour of the employee's wages. When a company decides at a later date they do not want to pay the EARNED retirement benefit, they just simply don't pay it!

That money should go into the new SSI plan so it is under the control of the person who EARNED it.
There should also be a volunteer way to put additional savings into that account to prepare for early retirement.
I know and use other methods of saving but an untouchable retirement account would be safer.

GunnyG
Who said "SS is so good"?

MyOpine
Nobody "earns" a pension. A pension is a gift bestowed by a benefactor to an employee. Companies used to give pensions because it made them appear to be offering competative benefits. As time carried on, companies realized that pensions are bad business investments, so they're starting to liquidate. Governments should do the same thing: pensions are a waste of taxpayers' money.

I have no sympathy for anyone who thinks they've "earned" a pension and "lost" it. If they don't have the funds to finance a retirement, they have only themselves to blame and they should do what the rest of us do: Get a job. I work sixty-five to eighty hours a week to support my family and save my keep in the hope I may retire one day. For those who didn't save, thinking they could rely on a welfare scheme called a pension, at least appreciate the free ride while you had it.

povidus
The pensions I refer to are A NEGOTIATED PART OF HOURLY WAGES not something given gratis.
I am sure you would expect to be paid any wage you agreed to work for. Same thing.
Many other employees work under a contract containing a pension as part of the agreement.
Myself and most people I know insist on being PAID IN FULL for our labors.
Since there is a risk of a company failing at some future date or the employee may change jobs, it is better the few cents per hour be placed in a safe account.
Some employers feel as you do that it is ethical to steal from loyal employees who have worked a lifetime to earn a meager pension hour by hour, a few cents per day.
Government should provide protection from dishonest employers.

GunnyG
Get ready to LOL
FDR did not create Social Security.
FRD copied SSI and the way out of the GREAT DEPRESSION from some jerk in Europe who wore his hair in bangs and had a Charie Chaplin mustash.
Yeh, thats the guy!


MyOpine's Pension
It's difficult for me to imagine an hourly employee possessing the bargaining power to negotiate a pension from a prospective employer. If they are crafty enough to pull it off, then they should run for Congress.

The point is that in the past unions used their strengh to shakedown businesspeople for things like healthcare, dental, and pensions. As union power declined business owners and shareholders reclaimed what is theirs. I don't know of any businessperson who would view a pension benefit as nothing but mere gratis. If an hourly person truly believes they've "earned" a pension, then I apologize because they have been duped. The Democrats in Congress may now attempt to "protect" pension benefits--without the tyranny of Federal government interference, pensioners don't have legs to stand on.

Limbaugh-get a grip!
You say: "Indeed, mainstream conservatives, present company included, believe Republicans should revert to Reagan conservatism."

The key word here is "revert". Reverting is not possible nor is it the answer. If Ronald Reagan could return for a few minutes he'd tell us, "your generation has its own unique problems to solve and you must formulate your own solutions. Learn from the past but don't try to live in it." We were all influenced by Reagan. He was a man of deep Christian faith and we can all definitely learn from that as that never changes. But the conservative leadership (yes you Limbaugh) seem to be confused right now and a bit frightened. As a result they to want to revert to the past. Ronald Reagan. The Contract w/America. Successful times. Natural thing to do.
But again, you can't super impose a template of solutions from yesteryear over a map of todays problems. It won't fit! New solutions are needed.
Mr. Limbaugh you have a public podium. And with that comes responsibility. The responsibility of folks like you who have the "bloody pulpit" is to first properly analyze. Get to the core/root of the problem before you get into that pulpit. Its irresponsible for folks like yourself to use your position to put forth vague generalities. Especially since our nation is in such a perilous and dangerous position in its history. Can you deny that we are in deep trouble?
We have 2 short years to get our GOP house in order. If we fail then we get Hillary until 2016. We've seen how the Clintons fought the war on terror. Hillary would sign Kyoto and strictly enforce it. We'd have Hillary Care-socialized medicine. We will have wide open southern and northern borders and lose what little sovereignty we have left.
The GOP's biggest problem right now is - well - the GOP! Those who have influenced the direction of our Party. Those in the drivers seat. They have run our Party off of the 6 lane super highway (that we were on in Jan 2004) and into a muddy bog. And we're stuck. And these GOP strategists and advisers will not remove themselves from the drivers seat and let someone else try to get us out of the bog. Why? No one is chastising them for their humongous blunder! At least no one like yourself who has access to that public podium "and" is so well respected. And that, Limbaugh, is a shame. And its not just you. Other conservative commentators are dropping the ball - big time. Meanwhile 2008 looms in front of us like some hideous beast. And the clock is ticking. DD
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providus
You seem innocent of wage laws.
You must be from some non-union state.
As to someone "recovering" money that was a part of my lawful wages, I regard that as THEFT not recovery.
No one forces any employer to sign a Union Contract and in the immortal words of Samual Gompers, "The mere fact that a Union exists is proof positive that sometime in the past, someone high in Management has done something stupid!"
From your tone, you are very fortunate you do not have to deal with a Union because you would cause yourself a lot of sensless grief.

Racial Demography Spells GOP Doom
Conservatives can not be reunited as long as leaders such as George W. Bush and John McCain work deals to complete the demographic revolution of the country. I was born to a country that was over 85 % non-Hispanic white but I am faced with a future where my kin will be a despised minority in the country their ancestors built with no help from the Third Worlders who have leeched onto the country since 1965.

I see only disaster for conservatism and the GOP in the future due to the current demographic revolution in the country. Third World immigrants will always vote for the party who promises the most goodies and that will be the Democrats. Look for a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency followed by a thirty year reign of Democrats. How does that strike you, open borders Democrats? I can only hope that the Democratic majority raises the taxes on all the fanatical pro-business and libertarian types out there, a deserved fleecing for the suicidal elements of the Republican Party. I want Bill Kristol, John McCain, George W. Bush, Tamar Jacoby, Linda Chavez, Fred Barnes, Steve Moore, Paul Gigot and the like to fork over 70 % of their income to the future Democratic dynasty as punishment for destroying the country I love.

hosequerro
The GOP was drubbed in 2006 because their portion of the WHITE vote, still 82 % of the electorate, dropped from 58 % in 2004 to 51 % in 2006. The GOP drop in the Hispanis vote was IRRELEVANT to the 2006 GOP defeat.

To correct MyOpine
SS wasn't copied from the fellow with the chaplin moustache and Moe Howard hair, it was introduced to Germany by the guy named after the battleship. (And in case someone says "huh?", it was Bismarck, not Hitler who introduced a social security system to Germany.)
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