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Tuesday, July 25, 2006
David Limbaugh :: Townhall.com Columnist
Bolton must be confirmed
by David Limbaugh
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Why are Democrats -- in the words of Sen. Christopher Dodd -- promising a "bruising" battle over the confirmation of John Bolton as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations?

Bolton is serving under a recess appointment because Democrats twice filibustered a vote on his confirmation last year, preventing a full Senate vote. They were upset that Bolton had made disparaging remarks about the United Nations and that he was tough on subordinates. They were afraid he would alienate our allies.

Now they are sure he has done just that. Dodd said, "I'm sorry the administration wants to go forward with this. The problems still persist. Many ambassadors at the U.N. feel he hasn't done a good job there. He has polarized the situation."

There you have your answer. The liberals' opposition to Bolton lies in their attitude toward the United Nations, which they regard as a largely positive institution rightly frustrated with the arrogance of President Bush and the United States.

The New York Times made this very clear in a recent story on Bolton. The Times wrote, "The Bush administration is not popular in the United Nations, where it is often perceived as disdainful of diplomacy, and its policies as heedless of the effects on others and single-minded in the willful assertion of American interests. By extension, then, many diplomats say they see Mr. Bolton as a stand-in for the arrogance of the administration itself."

Does the Times bother to refute this charge that Bolton and the administration are arrogant and unjustly alienate our "traditional allies"? Hardly. It's been one of the main critics of President Bush's alleged "unilateralism" in foreign policy.

Liberals don't like it one bit that Bolton sees his role as vigorously representing the national interests of the United States, just as every other U.N. ambassador advocates the positions of his own country. They don't support Bolton's efforts to reform the United Nations, a corrupt organization that has consistently mistreated the United States and made a mockery of human rights -- a cause it purports to champion. They cringe when Bolton exposes U.N. hypocrisy, such as when he pointedly challenged Louise Arbour, the U.N. high commissioner for human rights, on his threat to charge Israeli leaders with war crimes.

They don't like Bolton's unambiguous defense of Israel's actions in response to Hezbollah's unprovoked attacks, in which they killed and kidnapped Israeli soldiers and shot missiles indiscriminately into Israeli civilian populations. They resent Bolton's rejection of the U.N.'s moral perversion in giving the terrorists a pass for their atrocities and portraying Israeli acts of self-defense as war crimes.

They shudder at Bolton's moral clarity, such as when he said, "I think it's important that we not fall into the trap of moral equivalency here. What Israel has done in response is act in self-defense. And I don't quite know what the argument about proportionate force means here. Is Israel entitled only to kidnap two Hezbollah operatives and fire a couple of rockets aimlessly into Lebanon?"

Bolton understands the nature of this conflict and its adversaries. Nothing could better characterize the respective warring forces than a recent cartoon depicting an armed Israeli soldier positioned protectively in front of a baby carriage while his terrorist enemy was holding his weapon (SET ITAL) behind (END ITAL) a baby carriage.

As Bolton knows, it's hard to negotiate with savages of that mindset. That's why in an interview with Fox News' Brit Hume, Bolton dismissed Syria's requests for dialogue with the United States. Bolton told Brit, "Syria doesn't need dialogue to know what they need to do. They need to lean on Hezbollah to get them to release the two captured Israeli soldiers and stop the launch of rockets against innocent Israeli civilians." Exactly.

To put it bluntly, Republicans support Bolton's nomination precisely because of his clarity of thought and speech -- and his unapologetic representation of America's interests. Democrats oppose him because they sympathize with the negative view of Bolton held by foreign envoys who have anything but the best interests of the United States in mind.

If it bothers you that we have a staunch defender of America's interests serving as our ambassador to the United Nations and believe, instead, that we should routinely subordinate our interests to other nations openly hostile to us and contemptuous of the very idea of human rights, then you, too, should join the liberal chorus against confirmation of this fine public servant.

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Litmus Test
It's possible that there are more important issues than Bolton's confirmation, but none present such a clear litmus test for distinguishing bubble-heads from realists. I'm relieved that Senator Voinovich is no longer a bubble-head.

Proper Punishment for the U.N.
The U.N. should be punished for its lack of comity with the United States by having Hon. SecDef Donald Rumsfeld represent our interest there. But in his stead, Bolton is a fine choice.

The Democrats hate Bolton because he makes America stronger.

BOOT THE UN!
I'd relax my stance on the UN if someone, ANYONE, could point to a success that they've had. From Korea to Bosnia to Rwanda to Sierra Leone, these idiots have managed to bungle every mission assigned to them. If this was done by a CEO, the stockholders would have fired him/her decades ago. If this kind of performance was turned in by a C.O., they'd have been drummed out of whatever branch of service they were in. Kofi and Crew are just the latest line of nimrods trying to take over the world and run it like Bozo the Clown would. Let's not even mention the free ride they get here in the USA or how much money we waste on them annually. It's way past time for them to hit the road. Call or email your Reps/Sens and ask they why HR 1146 is still languishing on the House floor. It's better that we have NO UN than one that hates America and uses our funds to enable its "peacekeepers" to rape women and sell children into slavery in Sudan.

Jerubaal and GunnyG hit it on the nail!
The funda problem of the UN is that it was established on the wreckage of the LN (League of Nations) after that organisations failure to prevent a war (WW2) WORSE than the one it was formed after (WW1--which was horrifying enough). Not only has the UN not learned from the LN's mistakes, but has compounded them--in no small part due to its being around more than twice as long as the LN.

In light of this fact, the UN should be disbanded! Withdrawing the US (biggest source of funds to UN at easily 45%; also, this withdrawal should be made with the stipulation that no UN claim against US for "owed" dues will ever be honoured) and booting out all non-American UN personnel would be a good way to start this disbanding.

Always Taking The Other Side
Why is it democrats always take the other side no matter who it is? If Bush is for something they'll happily take al Qaeda's side or the EU side or.....

ALSO
svpallava, thanks. The UN personnel in NYC cause accidents and get traffic fines that they casually disregard and that end up getting paid again, by the taxpayers of NY. The rest of us get to enjoy raised premiums to cover the losses of the insurance companies. My personal favorite is the fact that the larva of these foreign UN turds get to attend the BEST private schools in NYC courtesy of, you guessed it, the US TAXPAYER. I've had discussions with UN weenies and they say these payments come out of the general UN fund, which, as I point out, is funded by a majority of USA cash. Scary when idiots like that think the money comes from heaven. HR 1146 NOW!

The U. N. . . . . what a joke
The people opposing Bolton are the same people who are actively causing the decay of this country from the inside out. Call them what you want: liberals, leftists, communist/socialists, democrats, whatever. The problem is that they are afraid. They are cowards. No matter how bad the current situation is, they are willing to ignore it because they are more afraid of doing something about it. They are afraid of the unknown. To them there is no war worth fighting. They are afraid that fighting terrorists will create more terrorists. Well, what the hell are you supposed to do, just let them take over the world? Continue to bomb our cities? They are afraid of world opinion. Well, I'm here to tell you folks, world opinion (as defined by our lovely media) is just plain wrong. As it stands, the U.N. is nothing more than a collection of two-bit thugs who think they can sit at the table on an equal footing with the U.S. What a farce; but, that's the specialty of the left. Farcical nonsense. Lack of moral clarity. Bumbling fools. I can only hope that times like these expose these idiots for what they are to those who have yet to pull their heads out.

Imagine Japan's viewpoint
If you think we're ticked at the huge funds we pay the U.N. for an organization that is against our interests, imagine how Japan feels. They also are a major contributer(~20%), and they don't even have a seat on the security council. Just how did Germany get on and not Japan, anyway? Oh, yeah, the U.N. managed the German reconstruction (which is why it took ~25 years), and the U.S. managed Japan's alone (which took ~5).

I agree, the U.N. is a bust, and should be disbanded. If just the U.S., Japan, Australia, Britain, and a few other true allies left the U.N. to form a union of like-minded countries, the U.N. would be toast.

Leaving the U.N.
Unfortunately, today's crop of politicians don't have the gonads to sack up and pull out of the U.N. Once again the status quo is always preferable to the unknown, especially when you're a pampered leftist.

Bolton confirmation
Once again the Senate dimmocrats are displaying their partisanship and unwillingness to give a candidate submitted by George Bush a fair, up-and-down vote on the Senate floor.
Has there ever been a U.S. Secretary General of the U.N.? Isn't it about time we had one?
Even better, let's get out of the U.N. and get the U.N. out of the U.S. I think a perfect place for U.N. headquarters would be Pyongyang, North Korea or Mogadishu, Somalia. Or maybe Ulan Bator in Mongolia.

Well
Confirm Bolton, unconfirm the UN itself.

Throw that whole passel of weasels out of the US, get them off our soil, cut all funding, make them meet in Mogadishu or Paris or some other disgusting place more amenable to their unscrupulous and unethical standards, turn Turtle Bay into a resort hotel.

A Bruising Battle They Will Lose
The democrats yet again show that they are not a party that can be taken seriously on issue relating to American interests as they align themselves with Anit-American UN sentiment against Pro-American, get the job done performance of Mr. Bolton. This is a battle that they will lose so I say bring it on. Beat yourself up bloody over it.

I woudl say they ought to know better but they are all in a race to show their leftward constituents just how lefty they can be. Fighting over Bolton wont be about winning for them..it will be about show boating for the anti-american left. I only hope it translates into consequences in 06.

More Limbaugh Whining About the Left..
David Limbaugh has some sort of vendetta against liberals and Democrats. Pratically every article he writes criticizes and demonizes these factions of the left. In his eyes these people are the real enemy of the U.S.

What Limbaugh doesnt seem to get is the basic point that libs/dems DONT THINK like repubs/cons
and they believe just as passionately about their political convictions as their opponents.
What's particularly insulting is that Limbaugh believes that repubs/cons and ONLY repubs/cons know how to GOVERN in the best interest of the U.S., which is utter nonsense.

If his belief that only repubs/cons are qualified to govern in the U.S., then WHY is it that currently, poll after poll shows the vast majority of americans are clearly dissastified with the job President Bush and the Republican Congress are doing by wide margins?

Where Limbaugh gets this idea that Congressional democrats are supposed to rubberstamp Bush, nominees such as Bolton, whom they are in opposition to is beyond me. Conversely, if the shoe was on the other foot, Republicans would fight tooth and nail and use any method possible to thwart the nominations of a democratic president they oppose, just as they did under former President
Clinton. In other words Limbaugh is a hypocrite.

Oh, please, LeftAngle
Did you see the Republican Senate give Billy Drop Trou a hard time when he nominated Madeline Halfbright for SecState?

Get real.

The Dems don't want to confirm Bolton because they don't like a person with backbone. Negotiating with the UN is like Israel negotiating with the Hezbollah. UN needs to be out of the United State and have them play their games somewhere else.

Brian R.: Then explain this...
"In contrast, more than 50 Clinton nominees were not even granted a hearing by the GOP-led Judiciary Committee. Six more who had hearings were not given the courtesy of a committee vote. In fact, 35 percent of Clinton's appeals court nominees were blocked without a vote while the GOP controlled the Senate from 1995 to 2000"

LeftAngle
That has nothing to do with specifically what I wrote. The judiciary has been holding up lower level nominations on both sides for years.

I'm talking about cabinet-level and ambassadorial appointments.

But since you mention the judiciary, why didn't the Senate block Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Man, if ANYONE should have been blocked, she's the poster child.

And, of course, Halfbright, as I mentioned earlier.

BTW, LeftAngle
Your whole post was in quotes. If you're quoting something, please state the source. Not that it matters this time, as I'm not disputing that particular statement.

Brian R. the overall point is..
That its hypocritical for Limbaugh to suggest that congressional democrats shouldnt oppose,
block and rubberstamp repub nominees when their is evidence that repubs do the same to dem nominees they oppose.

if you want an example from the executive branch,
check this out from the washington post.

"There are only two factors that can stop a presidential nominee for the executive branch -- and both may apply to Bolton. The first he shares with Lani Guinier, among others. She was the lawyer who was selected by President Bill Clinton to fill the nation's top civil rights post and who was pilloried for her liberal ideas on minority representation and forced to withdraw. Like Guinier, Bolton has drawn fire not for who he is but for what he actually thinks."

Brian R. Heres more...
from the same Washington Post Article:

President Bill Clinton lost several confirmation battles. In 1993, his choice for attorney general, Aetna general counsel Zoe Baird, withdrew after a furor over her failure to pay Social Security taxes for a nanny and chauffeur who lacked work papers.

That same year, he withdrew his nomination of law professor Lani Guinier for assistant attorney general for civil rights, saying he had been unaware of her controversial views on how to enhance minority representation.

In 1994, retired Adm. Bobby Ray Inman, stung by press and Senate criticisms of his record, asked Clinton to withdraw his nomination as secretary of Defense.

In 1997, Anthony Lake, Clinton's national security adviser, dropped his bid to become CIA director, after he was torpedoed by opponents who viewed Lake as too dovish for the job.


Left Angel:
"Pratically every article he writes criticizes and demonizes these factions of the left. In his eyes these people are the real enemy of the U.S."

Actually Angel, it is the left that perceives George Bush and the Republicans as its most immediate enemy, whereas Limbaugh and most sensible conservatives are quite explicit in recognizing Islamo-fascists as their primary enemy. Limbaugh is simply making the point that the left is woefully weak on national security...Remember, the left and some liberal elitists HATE Republicans, who thy perceive as evil and far more dangerous then Islamic terrorists. Republicans on the ther hand hate al-Quida, and don't think that the left is evil, but simply wrong, and in the case of the far left, anti-American.

" his belief that only repubs/cons are qualified to govern in the U.S., then WHY is it that currently, poll after poll shows the vast majority of americans are clearly dissastified with the job President Bush and the Republican Congress are doing by wide margins?"

This observation proves nothing. Lincoln was despised by most Americans; Democrats and Republicans, Southerners and Northerners, etc. He was called a coward and a dictator. History has vindicated him...Also, the vast majority of Americans still trust Republicans on national security.




Thyashabulus:Nat.Security Myth on Repubs
Republicans being superior over democrats on National Security is a myth perpetuated by the RNC and its minions. It has absolutely no basis in U.S. History, which clearly shows Democrats superior.

Dropping The Atom Bomb on Japan, Defeating Hitler in WWII and Facing Down the Russians in the Cuban Missle Crisis. ALL Democratic presidents which repubs have nothing to compare.

Your statement of who Dems perceive as the real enemy is rnc spin and propaganda that you cant back up with facts. is that same weak argument from the right to stiffle dissent:

"If you questions or criticize President Bush during a time of war you are a anti-american-
unpatriotic traitor who is aiding and abetting the enemy"

So the majority of americans giving Bush and the republican congress failing grades means nothing?
lol ok we shall see in November 06.

UN
We don't need to get rid of the UN. All we really need to do is put it where it could, maybe, do some good.

How about moving the UN to Fargo or Minot ND or Pierre SD?

We'd free up a lot of valuable NYC real estate and give a large boost to the economies of two areas that can surely use it.

There are other places that we could consider, such as Spokane WA, Matawan WV and Frederick OK, but you get the idea.

Barry

Liberals: children who never grew up
Brian R appears to argue that because an apple isn't a banana, it must be an orange.

The difference between the cited Clinton nominations was that none of them was subjected to a fillibuster as an alternative to a confirmation vote.

During the confirmation process, the fact that the Clinton nominees withdrew their names (or had their names withdrawn) because of damning personal and professional revelations, is not the same as the Senate filibustering an nomination in order to refus Mr. Bolton the curtesy of a vote he would surely win.

If Mr. Bolton has any skeltons in his closet, I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that it would have been front page news and the lead story on every network news program for the last year.

Mr. Bolton's greatest sin, according to his detractors, appears to be that he favors the policies espoused by the President he is obligated to represent.

LeftAngle and Barry
LeftA: The Fightin' Dems to whom you refer in your post are an extinct breed. The Dem party of the 40s into the 60s are long gone. If Truman or JFK were running today, they'd be Reps (though probably the country club variety). Kennedy: "fight any foe..." etc., not "wave any white flag..."

Barry: Why should the UN be in this country at all? Do you hate the people in the Dakotas so much for some reason? LOL

Brian R.: You Underestimate todays dems
I find it hillarious that you repubs/cons believe that a democratic president or congress would hesitate to use military power and force to defend the U.S. against it's enemies. It's totally unbelievable that you think that.
Where do you get the idea that everyone that opposes the Iraqi War is a leftist democrat?
That is far from the truth.

The difference between todays democrats and republicans is that we dont go off to war with a half cocked weak justification, with no planning or afterthought to the results and most importantly against the WRONG adversary, who had nothing to do with the original crime in the first place. We also believe that war should be a LAST resort when all other remedies have FAILED. In other unlike repubs/cons, WE THINK
BEFORE WE ACT. LOL

Left Angel:
"Republicans being superior over democrats on National Security is a myth perpetuated by the RNC and its minions. It has absolutely no basis in U.S. History, which clearly shows Democrats superior."

Actually, Howard Dean, it does have a basis. Of course, Truman and JFK were very strong on national security. The problem is that the Truman Democrats are no longer adequatly represented in the Democratic Party. But don't take my word for it, take Joseph Lieberman's.

Since the New Left hijacked the Democratic Party in the 1960's, Democrats have embrased appasement, moral equivolence and pacifism. (See Jummy Carter, McGovern, Howard Dean, etc.) Why do you think smething like 80% of Cuban Americans are Republicans? There is really only one reason: Democrats are known to be Castro appeasers and sympathisers, while Republicans have always been staunchly anti-Castro and anti- communist. Plain and simple.

"Your statement of who Dems perceive as the real enemy is rnc spin and propaganda that you cant back up with facts. is that same weak argument from the right to stiffle dissent:

"If you questions or criticize President Bush during a time of war you are a anti-american-
unpatriotic traitor who is aiding and abetting the enemy"

No, but if you actually do aid and abett the enemy by going oversees and inciting hatred of America under false pretenses (Al Gore in Saudi Arabia, Jimmy Carter everywhere) you are a traitor and should be tried for treason, and if convicted, hanged.

Most on the far left unfortunatly do hate George Bush more than they hate terrorits. When was the last time you heard Howard Dean or Michael Moore deliver a speech which focuses on condemning terrorists, rather then Republicans? Well, Michael Moore did call the terrorits in Iraq freedom fighters and minutemen, but that's not QUITE a condemnation.

"So the majority of americans giving Bush and the republican congress failing grades means nothing?
lol ok we shall see in November 06."

It may mean something in short-term, electoral politics. My point was that it means nothing in the long-term and in the contxt of history.

LEFT = IDIOCY
As Reagan put it, "It's not that our liberal friends are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so."

Plus, ratiocination is alien to them.

Thrasybulus: RNC talking points & spin
I have come to think that repubs/cons really believe the propaganda, half truths and outright lies that the spread about libs/dems.

you say republicans are stronger on National Security and yet you have nothing factual to back up your contention.

Democrats have a problem with Sen. Lierberman because he "embraces" President Bush's misguided
War on Iraq and publicly criticizes members of his own party for in the media for opposing Bush. He has become the "darling" of the right. That makes him a traitor in the eyes of many on the left, which is totally understandable.

Your contention that a Democratic President or Congress would NOT use Military FORCE to defend
the U.S. against its enemies is laughable and not based in reallity. everyone opposing the war is NOT a "liberal democrat".

Democrats hate Bush more than the islamofacists?

that statement is pure nonsense not based in reality. more rnc spin and propaganda.


Whats even more funny is that you think that Bush and the republican congress are doing just great and face no losses in midterms 2006.

Liberals are weak on national defense!!!
That's why the 9/11 commission determined that al-quida had been at war with the US executing multiple attacks against us for several years while we did nothing (under a liberal president Clinton)

Iraq ignored UN resolutions and refused to comply with the ceasefire agreement for years and we did nothing to stop their major abuses(under a liberal president Clinton)

Korea convinced madeline albright to trust them and proceeded to make great strides in its nuclear program (all under the watchful eyes of a liberal president Clinton)

China was provided with increased technology (over the objections of the DoD) that improved their weapons technology (once again under the watchful eyes of a liberal president Clinton).

So its pretty clear that the majority of liberals are very weak on national defense because they always seem to side with our enemies rather than acting on America's best interests. they also seem to like the idea of turning over our national sovereignty to the UN. By wanting to agree to the ICC, Kyoto Treaty, small arms treaty, etc., All of which would harm the US.

So on national security issues if its a choice between a liberal democrat or a conservative republican I'll choose the repub all the time as he will almost always support the US position versus surrendering to folks who have their own best interests in mind and not the US's.

Left Angle
"I have come to think that repubs/cons really believe the propaganda, half truths and outright lies that the spread about libs/dems.

you say republicans are stronger on National Security and yet you have nothing factual to back up your contention."

Did you read my post? If so, did you understand it? As I demonstrate below, you clearly failed to do one of the two.

Jimmy Carter went out of his way to appease the Soviet Union. He was rewarded by the Soviet Union's invasion of Afghanistan. Ronald Regan emphasized peace through strength, build up our defense, and called the Soviet Union an evil empire. For this, he was excoriated by the left. Who was stronger on defense, Reagan or Carter? Who has history vindicated?

The Cuban American example I cited in my last post is also quite telling. The fact tht the New Left is weak n national security is demonstrable and irrefutable.

"Democrats have a problem with Sen. Lierberman because he "embraces" President Bush's misguided
War on Iraq and publicly criticizes members of his own party for in the media for opposing Bush. He has become the "darling" of the right. That makes him a traitor in the eyes of many on the left, which is totally understandable."

Bill Clinton continues to support him...

"Your contention that a Democratic President or Congress would NOT use Military FORCE to defend
the U.S. against its enemies is laughable and not based in reallity. everyone opposing the war is NOT a "liberal democrat"."

I never made this claim, whch proves that you eithr did not rad my post or didn't understand it.

"Democrats hate Bush more than the islamofacists?

that statement is pure nonsense not based in reality. more rnc spin and propaganda."

See my last post.


"Whats even more funny is that you think that Bush and the republican congress are doing just great and face no losses in midterms 2006."

Again, I never said this. Go back and read my earlier post.

Left Angle: Still obuse but we luv ya
First, have you noticed that you are welcome to post here, and that for the most part people respond to your arguments without ad hominum attacks or name calling? Unfortunately, the same is not true of left wing sites. I have tried posting on Democrat.com, for example, and was the recipient of massive attacks on my character--that is until my posts were deleted and my login revoked by the site, despite a complete lack of profanity or name calling on my part. Anyway, to respond to your arguments:

- To suggest that Democrats in the post-Carter era are strong on defense is, regrettably, laughable. Democrats from the 50's on sympathized with Communist regimes (and continue to do so to this day), perhaps out of a feeling of solidarity because of shared Marxist philosophy. We won WWIII against Communist totalitarianism without a major war in spite of, not because of, Democrats. They fought Reagan tooth and nail every step of the way. Democrats continue their trend of appeasement in WWIV against Islamo Fascism. And it's not just Iraq--although they hope you don't remember now, Democrats were dead-set against our liberation of Afghanistan. Remember all of the talk about how we couldn't win, how they were the greatest fighters in the world who had defeated the Soviets, how we couldn't overcome their mountains, caves and weather? Remember how we were told it was a "quagmire" 2 days in?

And Democrats continue to undermine our security at home. They fight against the Patriot Act, which gives law enforcement agencies the same tools to fight terrorism that they already possessed to fight narcotics and organized crime. Democrats are working hard to establish a "terrorist bill of rights" to not only extend Geneva Convention rights to which terrorists are not entitled, but to grant them the full protection of the US Constitution. They bleat that any aggressive questioning is "torture". They scream that we cannot monitor terrorist communications without court order. They howl that Guantanamo must be shut down and the terrorist killers there assigned ACLU lawyers and set free. They submarine our tools for monitoring terrorist funds.

And, finally, Iraq. No one questions that any war should be debated thoroughly, and that war should be the final resort undertaken as a last measure. However, once war is entered into, it is the duty of public officials (not private individuals) to support our efforts, i.e. the political debate ends at the water's edge. Republicans have always acted on this, as they have on the unwritten rule against ex-presidents publicly criticizing the sitting president. Democrats have done neither. Democrats have crossed the line into actively aiding and abetting our terrorist enemies. Ted Kennedy's words become Al Qaeda talking points. John Kerry claims (again) that are soldiers are terrorists. Dick Durbin compares our soldiers to Pol Pot and Hitler. John Murtha claims we cannot win. Ted Kennedy claims that we have re-opened Saddam's torture chambers. All of them claim that the President lied us into the war to benefit the oil industry or Haliburton, and suggest that he knew about 9/11 in advance. And this is not from fringe left wing moonbats, but the leaders of the Democrat party. I'm sorry, but this goes far beyond healthy debate and enters the realm of sedition. Not all Democrats hate America, but the current crop is more than willing to subvert the best interests of the country to their desire to regain power and their hatred of Bush. And the American people recognize it--they see the glum Democrat faces after Iraqui elections or the killing of Al Zarqawi, and the ghoulish glee with which Democrats greet "milestone" American deaths. I can't say for sure, but I think it is a safe bet to assume that a President Gore would have reacted to 9/11 in much the same way as Clinton did to previous Al Qaeda attacks--lob a few cruise missles and call it a day.

- You continue to make the absurd suggestion that conservatives will tolerat no criticism of Bush, despite repeated strong criticism of him from the right on many issues.

- Like most liberals, you are obsessed with polls. Fortunately Bush, unlike his predecessor, governs by what he thinks is right, not what the polls of the day indicate. Bush's low standings in the polls can be explained by many factors, primary among them (and absurdly) gas prices. Also, a portion of the American people unfortunately do not have the stomach to tough out the war with Islamo Fascism, which Bush informed us would be long and difficult. As long as there is one piece of human sewage with a diaper and fan belt on his head and a bomb to set off, liberals will claim that we are losing the war, cannot win and should run away immediately. Bush's low poll numbers also illustrate the persistent power of the Democrat media, which along with Hollywood and the TV and music industries, have engaged in an all-out propoganda war against the President from day one. For example, they have many convinced that our booming economy and 4.5% unemployment rate are actually a recession.

So, sorry for the long screed, but the bottom line is that you'll have to go back to the drawing board and tighten up your arguments.

LeftAngle Re: your answer to my post
Y'know, I find your spirited defense of your team admirable. I admire guts, and you're showing real spunk. I have no doubt you firmly and truly believe what you write, and I bet if you were a Senator, you'd be a good one on the defense issue.

Here's the problem though. You wrote: "I find it hillarious that you repubs/cons believe that a democratic president or congress would hesitate to use military power and force to defend the U.S. against it's enemies."

All I can judge by is what I have seen and what I see now.

You have only two senators, Clinton and Lieberman, who come anywhere close to supporting the prosecution of this war. Clinton is triangulating like crazy to keep her viability as a presidential candidate, and Lieberman's a pariah in his own party. Two. That's it.

The Democrats' icon, the Draft Dodger in Chief, thought shooting cruise missiles into aspirin factories and nomads' tents was a good idea. He turned the military into Meals-on-Wheels.

So when you write that Dem politicians would use force to defend the US against its enemies, it tells me one of two things: either right now your party doesn't think we have any enemies in the Middle East, in which case they're dangerously naive or ignorant and don't deserve power,

or,

they know we have enemies, and would be willing to use force if they were in power, but will in the short term sacrifice even the well-being and safety of the country in order to block the Reps in their (Dem) efforts to regain majority status. In that case, they're traitors.

Who do you see as such staunch Fightin' Dems? Jean Francois Kerry? Jack Murthaf----er? Charlie Schumer? Boxer? Pelosi? Algore? Who? They have all the visibility of Hsrvey the Rabbit, if they exist.

Finally
We have a politican who loves America and doesn't play the same old games. He tells it like it is Damn what the Europeans think. He is someone who will, protect our interests (what a unique prospect).
We need him in the UN or the UN needs to leave the United states. They are a waste of time and money.

Oh, Dear me!!
The Democrats don't like the idea that the world thinks Bolton represents the Administration? Who should he represent? Them? I agree with the view that if the Senate were to elect the President, we would have a hundred-way tie. Democrats, Bolton represents this Administration. Get used to it.
At least tearful George Voinovich has pulled in his horns and promises to vote for him this time. George, Bolton hasn't changed. You were lied to by your Democrat friends about Bolton, just like they lie on the effects of tax cuts on the deficit and convince you to vote against the US economy on tax cuts.
All this just proves that the only thing stupider than a Democrat Senator is a Republican one. And it looks like at least one of Ohio's Republican will go down to defeat to a Democrat liar because of his gullibility. Goodby, Mike DeWine!

Bolton theatens!
The left/right divide on the Bolton confirmation for the UN is emblematic. Liberals instinctively look for a Mommy (like the UN for international policy, or the Nanny State for domestic policy) to escape accountability. Mommy will coo and comfort the infants -- which liberals imagine us all to be. Mommy will shelter us from the meanies. If something bad happens, the liberal can always say he did what Mommy said --deflecting any responsibility.

Conservatives have a grasp that self-protection is a an affirmative decision, rather than a punt to Mommy, whether her name is Hillary or Kofi. John Bolton is willing to affirm America's self-interests. That is why liberals find him so threatening.

1 + 1 Does not Equal 3
The far right wing continues to try to tell themselvs over and over and over again that 1 + 1= 3. Attacking Iraq without provocation, no weapons of mass destruction, destabalizing region, empowering Iraq, based on faulty intelligence = good. John Bolton, political hack, rewarded as a crony for helping GW steal the election in Florida, disapproved by respected republican CIA official and republican senator from OHIO = good. We only learn and grow when we admit our mistakes and move on and stop lying to ourselves. John Bolton has done nothing, 0, zilch, to distinguish himself. Likewise, this administration, has done nothing to stabalize the world. Bringing freedom and democracy to Iraq is about as true and 1 + 1 = 3. 100 Iraqis die per day...14,000 this year, maybe 100,000 since 2003. They are not free...they are dead. We will never provide the Iraqi government with the power to govern themselves including advanced military weapons because they will turn them against us just like the Iraniand and Iraqis have done in the past. Holding elections in countries where the governmnet does not hold a monopoly over military power is a recipe for disaster as has been the foreign policy of the Bush administration. We could have used the favor and power of world opinion to bring the world together after 911. We did not. George Bush will go down as the worst president in American history. Perhaps he should just bypass congress and reappoint Bolton with some type of presidential signing statement to a spending bill. This country cannot wait for November!!
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