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Wednesday, May 06, 2009
David Harsanyi :: Townhall.com Columnist
Sorry, History Is Just Not That Simple
by David Harsanyi
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Just as surely, Franklin Roosevelt's presiding over the destruction of Dresden, which caused 30,000-40,000 civilians to be incinerated, is at least as terrible as long-term sleep deprivation.

If Bush deserves war crime status for holding terror suspects in Guantanamo Bay (which Obama has yet to close), then we safely can say that FDR merits more of a historical lashing for the forced internment of 100,000 Japanese-Americans to "war relocation camps."

If Bush is a war criminal for denying terror suspects habeas corpus, then what is one to make of Abraham Lincoln, who suspended habeas corpus for all American citizens during the Civil War? Or of President Woodrow Wilson, who backed the Espionage Act, which forbade Americans from using "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the government?

Because, if we buy the argument that the ends never justify the means, we can't give presidents passes. If you argue that times and morality have evolved, that situations have changed, or that some causes are greater than others, then you're offering up distinctions, and you should accept some, as well.

The need to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki has been debated for decades. When President Bill Clinton backed the NATO bombing of Serbia -- at least 500 civilians were killed by NATO, according to Human Rights Watch -- he claimed that the bombing was necessary to "deter an even bloodier offensive against innocent civilians."

If that argument sounds familiar, it is because it is utilized all the time. Did the bombing of Serbia, Japan or Iraq save lives in the long run? Did the waterboarding of prisons save Americans from terror acts? I just wish a proponent would say, "We can't know for sure."

At this point, I can hear Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men" encapsulating the opinion of many: "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said 'thank you' and went on your way."

We shouldn't be on our way. In fact, history gives us a template to evaluate the complexities and morality of war.

And there are few absolutes.

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This whole issue has been over-lawyered and hypocrisized (probably not a word). When we're in a war, it's usually because somebody is trying to kill us or people we side with, and we're trying to defeat them by doing the same to them.

General Sherman made the succinct and accurate point that war is cruelty and the best way to end it soon is to bring that fact home to the people making it possible, either through economic or political support.

I would have supported any kind of torture of the Gitmo detainees that would get accurate intel, because I don't believe that Khalid Sheikh Muhammed or any of his co-conspirators deserves any more time on earth. There are two questions: did our interrogators get the information they were after? And did they commit such unspeakably depraved acts that they were themselves turned into monsters?
I don't know, but I think the answers are Sometimes and No.

As for the atom bomb, given Truman's situation and the choices before him, he made the right choice. I've always been told that the moral blame for war is on those who made it necessary. The people who died in Dresden are on Hitler's tab. The people who have died in Iraq are on Saddam's and the various Al Qaeda and Iranian leaders who have supported and funded the insurgencies.

VaSteve
Not to mention conditions at places like Camp Douglas or the ethnic cleasing of women and girls from New Manchester and Roswell, Georgia some of which were raped before being sent north of the Ohio River. I think a number of American Indians would dispute the claims of torture as well as Filipinos during the Filipino-American War in the first years of the last century as well as Vietnamese prisoners taken by the Americans during the Vietnam War.

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