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Friday, November 21, 2008
David Harsanyi :: Townhall.com Columnist
Who Wants To Live Forever?
by David Harsanyi
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Times are bleak. Even a cursory peek at the economy tells us the world is about to go to holy hell. And speaking of holy hell, Iran is on the cusp of building an atomic weapon, so be prepared to meet the Twelfth Imam.

As an eternal killjoy, this all seems about right to me. From the dirt floors of our tiny hovels, I imagine, we will one day congregate around fire pits and entertain emaciated grandchildren with tales of economic booms, budget surpluses, iPhones and low-interest credit cards. All in all, this generation had a fine run.

But there is a thin reed of optimism. Those delightful grandchildren of yours apparently are going to live forever -- or that's the goal. The news of only the past few weeks has transformed plenty of science fiction into near reality.

Did you hear the story of the South Carolina teenager who survived for nearly four months without a heart? She was kept alive with a "custom-built artificial blood-pumping device" and was able to survive for her proper heart transplant.

D'Zhana Simmons is only 14 years old, so the procedure was a marvel worth celebrating. But what does this kind of innovation mean for society in the long term? What about the 70-year-old with a clunky ticker? Or 90-year-old? What do we do when my own "custom-built artificial blood-pumping device" is on the fritz in 20, 30, 40 years?

Fortunately, I don't want to live forever (and judging from my inbox, this is a widely held position). I do, however, hope to die in my favorite position: deep in slumber. If they ever let me, that is.

Four European universities recently got together and transplanted a human windpipe using stem cells -- not the controversial embryonic kind, but from bone marrow so the patient's body would not reject it.

Though some questions remain about the breakthrough, surely the future will bring regenerated body parts for all -- with, one hopes, a streamlined process for livers and lungs. The potential of this science will be consequential in the lives of millions of people born with defective organs and will allow most of us to live longer, more fruitful lives.

And if they fail, scientists can always excavate you later.

Using 20,000-year-old hair they found in the Siberian tundra, an international team of scientists -- with nothing constructive to do, evidently -- recently finished a draft genome sequence of the majestic woolly mammoth.

They still have some work to do, but in a few more years, these scientists will be set to play God by recreating the long-extinct animals -- for only 10 million bucks a pop.

"It may one day become possible," Pennsylvania State University biochemist Stephan Schuster explained, "to mammoth-ify an African or Asian elephant genome."

Awesome. But why ?

Imagine the other potential uses for this science. Why not, for instance, drill deep into the Michigan ground and excavate the long-lost DNA of a competent auto-industry executive or even Henry Ford (you know, after they erase the Nazi-sympathizing chromosome)?

Either way, science is on the march. And though we tend to concentrate feverishly on the negative, great things are happening.

Writing this column has momentarily revived my belief in humankind. Short term, you say, we're on the wrong track. Well, long term, we usually are on the right one.

So if we somehow survive these Dark Ages -- a time when Americans already live long, healthy, prosperous lives and have the financial wherewithal to fund scientists who muck around in the Siberian ice -- maybe, just maybe, we can live forever one day.

That is, if you actually are interested in such a terrible inconvenience.

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Well Said!
I've never understood why anyone would want to unnaturally protract his trip on this ball of rock. We have a relatively well calibrated natural lifespan -- the proverbial "threescore and ten" -- and an apparent invulnerability to attempts to "restore youth." Surely we wouldn't desire to live as enfeebled oldsters, dependent upon the good will of others? But that appears to be the only sort of enhanced longevity that's available.

I could be wrong, of course. As a scientist, I'm well aware that of N scientists laboring on a particular topic, N-1 are guaranteed to be wrong -- and sometimes more than that. But I severely doubt whether a future of perpetually renewed youth and vitality will ever be made available to us. Failing that, when my time comes, I'll follow Robert Louis Stevenson:

"Under the wide and starry sky,
"Dig the grave and let me lie.
"Glad did I live and gladly die,
"And I lay me down with a will!

"This be the verse you grave for me,
"Here he lies where he longed to be,
"Home is the sailor, home from the sea,
"And the hunter home from the hill."

No thanks
Living forever would only be worthwhile if I could have a re-created Marilyn Monroe of my very own. Come to think of it, even that would grow tiresome after a bit.

Immortality will never actually work.
It's the age-old lie. Live forever. It used to be talismans, like the Holy Grail. Then it was science, with alchemists trying to create an elixir of life. Back to magic, many explorers searched for a fountain of youth. Now again, it's back to science to try to make us live forever.

Humans will die. Aging happens. Death and decay do set in. To believe that immortality will ever be achieved on this earth is to believe the oldest lie ever:

"Ye shall be as gods."

I WILL TAKE MY APPOINTED TIME
WHAT A SAD STATE TO DREAM OF ONLY BEING IN THE VALLEY OF THE SHADOW OF DEATH. I AM A CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE I KNOW I WALK WITH JESUS, BUT I DO NOT WNT TO LIVE HERE FOREVER. ONLY ALCOHOLICS, DRUG USERS, PRESCRIPTION DRUG ABUSERS WOULD EVEN PHANTOM SUCH A THOUGHT AND THEN PASS IT ON TO THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY COALITION.I TAKE JUDGEMENT DAY WITH JESUS AND AN ENTERNALTY IN HEAVEN THEN A LIFETIME ON EARTH.

Cloning God
"Times are bleak. Even a cursory peek at the economy tells us the world is about to go to holy hell."

Actually, this column could have ended right there and spoken volumes.

The impossible, oxymoronic little title to this comment would be the period to that statement.

Rise up (or is that down), you illuminati sons of all the other gods. Your destiny awaits you.

the technological imperative
"Science has given mankind an opportunity to control and direct our future, our creative evolution; I believe we can be masters of our fate."

"Man has now an almost infinite power to change his world and change himself, for we have now, or know how to acquire, the technical capability to do very nearly anything we want. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and absolute power over himself and his environment puts man in a radically new moral position."

"Science is literally forcing man to play God."

But there are other voices that sound somewhat less confident in the powers of "technological man" and even less so in his modern wisdom.

I don't want to live forever
I would miss all my loved ones, unless they could, too. I would like to stay healthy until I go. :))

I heard they found bodies perfectly preserved in peat moss in Scotland or somewhere and some guy made skin cream out of it a few years back. I don't know whatever happened to him.

I want to live forever, just not here
Point one: Lots of good comments were posted here, but gee, some of you guys need to learn how to spell! Poor spelling and grammar weaken your otherwise great ideas. If you can't say it correctly, please don't help make the Liberals' case that Conservatives are stupid!

Point two: Read about the "Struldebrugs" in Jonathan Swift's satire "Gulliver's Travels." Swift insightfully portrayed the state of immortality in the physical plane as one of abject misery.

Point three: There is much talk about genetically extending life, now that this has been accomplished with lab animals already. If you consider this desirable for humans, know this: common people will never see it. If ever "perfected," this will fall into the hands of rich fat cats and politicians, who will see to it that only they and their own benefit from it, not we plebs. Giving the treatment to the masses would become planetary suicide, anyway, given our already overpopulated world. For insight see Burt Reynolds' futuristic movie "Zardoz" where an elite group of genetically altered immortals take humanity back to the Stone Age. In the end, the immortals willingly submit to wholesale massacre because they are bored with unending physical life after its pleasures grow stale.

Final Point: Lest you think I am some kind of atheist or skeptic, understand that I am a Christian Conservative. I want immortality on God's terms, not humanity's! Only God can implement immortality on a truly just and equitable basis that is destined to bring us TRUE ETERNAL JOY, not eternal misery.

America is suffering
America is suffering unlawful deception from the Alinsky group.
Group u$urp$ power on January 20th—the constitution violated.
The United States Supreme Court alone can relieve this outrage.

example: Bogus Selective Service System FOIA Registration?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_d id_n.html
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