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Tuesday, December 18, 2007
David A. Ridenour :: Townhall.com Columnist
Hurricane Forecasters' 0-for-2 Record Reveals Limits of Climate Science
by David A. Ridenour
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With the official hurricane season now over, we now have a better idea of what 85%+ forecast certainty meant: Wrong 100% of the time.

In August, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) forecast a 85% probability there would be an "above normal" hurricane season.

This is the second year running the government hurricane forecast was wrong. This 0-2 record may tell us something about other similarly "certain" forecasts, such as those issued by the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

If forecasters can't get hurricane projections right during hurricane season, why should we trust their forecasts for a hundred years from now?

NOAA had predicted 7-9 hurricanes and 3-5 major hurricanes, but there were just six hurricanes, only two of which were "major." There are "normally" six hurricanes, two major, and 11 named storms.

The sixth hurricane came only three days before the official end of the hurricane season, when NOAA's National Hurricane Center (NHC) quietly upgraded tropical storm Karen to hurricane status. The timing of the re-designation - at the moment hurricane season post-mortems were already running in newspapers throughout the country - may have struck some as a bit suspicious.

But National Hurricane Center spokesman Dennis Feltgen insists that the timing was purely coincidental.

"Its re-classification was not related to any particular time of the season," Feltgen told me. "NHC specialists are consummate professionals and would never name (or not name) a tropical cyclone for the sole purpose of verifying a product."

He was not able to cite another example, however, when such a re-classification came so close to the end of the season.

Even with Karen's change in status, the hurricane season was unusually quiet. The Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) Index, which measures storm duration and intensity, was just 70.54 this year, more than 20% below the median and a little over half of what NOAA predicted. Hurricanes Lorenzo and Humberto both had lower ACEs than any tropical storm in 2006, and the season's overall ACE - including the two category 5 hurricanes - was still less than the ACE of 2004's Hurricane Ivan all by itself.

NOAA did get the number of named storms right: There were 15 this year, four above what the agency considers normal and in the middle of the range projected. Unfortunately, "normal" doesn't mean a great deal.

For one thing, NOAA has changed the criteria for naming storms - most recently in 2002, when subtropical storms were named for the first time.

For another, only subtropical storms, tropical storms and hurricanes that are identified as such while they're occurring are named. Last year, one storm that should have been named was overlooked. In 1964, three tropical cyclones - equal to a quarter of such storms that year - weren't named.

And finally, there are vast differences in the quality of data available to NOAA over time, which makes "normal" difficult to ascertain.

NOAA's forecast last year was similarly dire - and even more off-target.

One wonders about the level of certainty bandied about by global warming forecasters.

The IPCC says it is very likely (greater than 90% certain) that precipitation in high latitudes will increase, the frequency of heat waves over most land areas will rise and the meridional overturning circulation (MOC) will slow during the 21st century. Slowing of the MOC is of particular concern, as it is the process that permits the ocean's warm upper waters to be transported to the far north and cool deep waters to be returned toward the equator resulting in more moderate climates.

If the IPCC's projections are anything like NOAA's, we have nothing to worry about.

Global warming alarmists have exploited NOAA and IPCC forecasts to frighten the public in hopes of increasing public support for economically-ruinous caps on U.S. carbon emissions.

The World Wildlife Fund, for example, says global warming is putting "hurricanes on steroids," but that's only true if they're referring to one of the side-effects of long-term steroid use - impotency.

Unfortunately, NOAA is helping fuel the scare campaign through its annual forecasts and its reports of storm and heat "records" -- records the agency knows it has no way to verify.

The count of tropical storms, for example, would have increased dramatically even if actual storm activity had not increased, because our ability to monitor weather is constantly improving.

The Quick Scatterometer, a satellite that measures the ocean's surface winds, was launched just eight years ago. It produces more than double the daily measurements of its predecessor, launched just three years earlier, which itself had increased by more than 100 times the amount of ocean wind information reported from ships.

Increased resources and technological advancement across the board - from that used in satellites to Hurricane Hunter aircraft - means we are identifying storm systems we wouldn't have known about in the past.

Hurricane Karen is a good case in point. NHC estimates that Karen reached a maximum speed of 65 knots per hour (or 74.9 miles per hour) - only about 1.2 mph above tropical storm status. No direct measurement of the storm's wind speed was taken. Instead, an estimate was made based on satellite imagery and data from Hurricane Hunter aircraft using state-of-the-art Stepped-Frequency Microwave Radiometer (SFMR) technology taken six hours after Karen started losing strength. The Hurricane Hunter aircraft had only been equipped with the SFMR this summer.

Even if NHC's extrapolation of the data is correct - and 1.2 mph leaves little room for error - it's unlikely that Karen would have been classified as a hurricane in years past.

NHC's Feltgen ducked a specific question on this, but indirectly conceded that it was possible.

"Technology such as satellites and the SFMR has allowed forecasters to detect... several tropical cyclones that might have otherwise gone undetected in the past," Feltgen said. "In addition, the technology also permits a more accurate measurement of the storm intensity."

NOAA doesn't mention its changing criteria for naming storms, nor the vast differences in data quality over time, when it issues annual hurricane season forecasts. Yet it continues to portray these forecasts and subsequent storm reports in a historical context, as if what it is saying is meaningful.

It holds no meaning in science, but may in political science.

If NOAA continues to dabble in politics, Americans should afford it all the respect it does to politicians...

...very little.

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Better yet,
How can we believe anything they say happened millions of years ago?

Funding
This is all about funding. These people are just trying to be relevant enough that the tax dollars keep rolling in. People are actually getting paid to watch Mother Nature do her stuff.

Just a question: Just what caused all the ice to melt that at one time covered at least a third of the USA eons ago?

Could somebody stop
that guy from advertising the River Rising Review on every single bloody thread? Thank you.

Mark Twain once said that 99% of what people worry about never happens. The important thing is to be able to sort out the critical mass from the random noise. Seems to me there is such a rising volume of noise today, and nobody is being taught to think critically enough to know the difference betweeen noise and information, that this becomes less likely over time. (The number of people who refuse to get their children vaccinated because there is a 1:1,000,000,000,000 chance of side effects, then watch their children die of something like diptheria or whooping cough that are in fact serious and dangerous illnesses, is instructive.)

Global Warming, Hurricanes, and NOAA
First and foremost I will not make comments about NOAA reclassifying a storm to a Hurricane after the fact. They do this frequently. Andrew was upgraded from a Cat. 4 to a Cat. 5 after the season was over based on available data. And that was 1992, before every natural disaster from Cat. 2 Hurricanes to cold snaps to tsunami was blamed on Global Warming (all of which have happened in the last 5 years.) Unfortunately Mr. Ridenour concentrated on something that isn't worth concentrating on. He further loses a little credibility by showing his lack of knowledge of nautical and meteorological terms: There's no such measurement as "Knots per hour". It's "Knots," period. Without going into the history of the term it references "Nautical Miles per Hour" which is slightly higher than a statute mile.

Having said all of that...

The most remarkable thing about last year's (2006) very inactive tropical season is that the high priests of Global Warming declared that the unusual lack of storms in 06 was due to Global Warming (Just as the record high number of storms in 05 was). It is proven time and again that we cannot precicely predict the weather. So many small and insignificant things can affect how weather patterns go, the best we can do even with modern technology is make a decent guess what it's going to do tomorrow. The proponents of Global Warming theory have all sorts of dire predictions about what WILL happen and yet they have nothing to go on but computer models and guesswork. And considering that the climate is a highly complex system, subject to chaos theory, they are as likely to be wrong as I am when I make a prediction.


Global Warming, Hurricanes, and NOAA II
There are several reasons people don't buy Global Warming theory:

1. Recently, every natural disaster -- including the 2004 Tsunami -- has been blamed by someone on Global Warming.
2. Those who preach at the altar of Gaia make dire, apocalyptic, fire-and-brimstone predictions without even appearing to have done any actual research. They make no effort to help us understand the science behind it. "Trust us, the world will end in 100 years because of industrial development."
3. The only people speaking out are politicians. It is rare that scientists actually release a report on the subject. Yes, the politicians base their speaches on what they understand to be scientific data, but (a) how many of them understand what they are reading, and (b) how much of it has been massaged by low-level staffers to make their boss look good?
4. When the spokesman you tout as the most reliable you have is the UN (or any representative thereof acting in an official capacity) you need to rethink your strategy. No one buys the bill of goods the UN has for sale anymore.

Just as more and more of the
true scientific community are speaking out against AGW, the government is buying into the scam at increasing levels.

True and honest politicians (I know that these are rare) don't read the data. They have some staffer read the data and report back. This begs the question "How much scientific training do congressional staffers have?" Tyhe answer, not much.

The normal politician doesn't care whether it is a real problem or not. His only concern is how can he use it to get reelected and further his own agenda. To the Lamocrats this is to advance the socialist agenda and get reelected. To the Republicand and the Lamocrats it also includes aiding their major contributers with the winner-loser reward system known as cap and trade.

In both cases, the entire thing is a fraudlent scam. The evidence is now pouring in that we have actually gone into the long-awaited cooling trend. FEW MORE YEARS ARE ALL THAT IS NEEDED!

To the Global Warming Advocates
I have a proposition to any Global Warming advocate who posts here. Let's solve the problem.

Let's pretend for the sake of argument that what I call the Global Warming Trifecta is 100% true. That is (a) Global Warming Exists, (b) It is caused by human activity and (c) it will certainly cause a massive, global catastrophe at X point in the future. This will be granted for the purposes of this post.

What do we do about it?

That's the question. How do we solve the problem?

Now, before you start saying we need 100 Kyotos or whatever, there are some rules to this game:

1. The solution must be a SOLUTION, not a Band-aid. Kyoto has been said to be able to delay the catastrophe by 10 years. That's not good enough. The solution must either stop it entirely, or at least slow it enough that we have a good 200-300 years beyond the 100 year limit most people claim to let technology increase to where it's not an issue any more.

2. Genocide is not an option. The solution must take into account the need to feed, hydrate, clothe, shelter, employ, and transport a growing population of over 6 billion people. Therefore, simply stating that we will stop all means of industrial production is not a viable solution.

3. The solution must be equally applicable to all. No "carbon credits." No lighter restrictions for developing nations, none of that. China and India must take the same measures that are expected of the US, as must African and South American nations. This cannot be a political solution aimed at wrecking the US economy to prop up China and the UN. I say this because anything less is a political game, not a viable solution. If you stop all US production, the food and products people need have to come from somewhere, and the carbon emmissions will just move elsewhere rather than going away. (As is happening now in the real world. What carbon emmissions we are losing here are just going to China.)

Hurricane Forecast Credits
Part of the new NOAA process is Hurricane Forecast Credits. Like carbon credits it will allow the trade or selloff of good and poor projections. Unfortunately, the bottom line is that carbon occurs as do hurricanes. No one can predict how much or how many. Please someone answer this. If city XX is said to have produced 1 million tons (or tonnes) of CO2 this year and it has typically sailed into the atmosphere, how many tons did it create? Do not answer if you cannot measure it since your lie is not as good as mine.

BAH HUMBUG
The only thing that is positive about the Hurricane forecast is that it helps our economy here in FLA, but it pisses alot of people off because they stock up on supplies only to watch the lies that the Hurricane peeps state.

Even the Pres of the Hurricane forecast committee doesnt agree with the Globull warming forecast that GORE has brainwashed so many people into believing.

We cant go back to the horse and buggy days because then we would have to kill all the animals since their flagelents are worse than humans. I wonder what PETA has to say about that.

Happy Jake
Re: pt 2- genocide is not an option. The most telling correlation is between the number of humans on the planet and CO2 levels. Ergo, if CO2 is the cause of global warming, the way to reverse AGW is to reduce the human population. Or maybe all the AGW believers can hold their breath permanently. BTW, the atmosphere of our planet is far roo complex and dynamic for us to understand well enough to make reliable predictions about. Also there has been no scientific explanation as to why the ground where I sit was 65 million years ago a subtropical swamp inhabited by dinosaurs, 100,000 years ago buried under a glacier that reached as far as 300 miles South of here, and now a temperate region with 4 seasons(winter, almost winter, just past winter, and construction). To wit: Sunday, I had 10" of "global warming" to shovel off my sidewalk & driveway.

The Problem With Models, ...
Back when I was getting my BS in Environmental Science, computer modeling was a brand-new idea. I noticed something even then that computer modelers are still reluctant to admit.

A computer model can only tell you what you already know (granted, you may not have known that you knew it because it was buried in clutter). It can't uncover anything new because the model is only as good as its data, and such data is subject to a selection bias that can be affected by the modelers' preconceptions.

So while computer models MAY be useful for organizing large volumes of data in order to spot things not easily seen in piles of graphs, charts, and tables its important to remember their limitations and to maintain a healthy skepticism about their accuracy.

Go to one of the tracking sites next year -- I like Weather Underground myself. Notice how the models can't predict a storm's course and intensity 2 days ahead of time. And how they different models' predictions vary wildly from each other. To attempt to predict a year ahead is iffy. To attempt 100 years ahead is absurd.

BTW -- Sometimes people talk about taking measures to somehow dissipate hurricanes. Such people might do well to look at the rainfall data in the southern, hurricane-prone states. Our drought amounts to just about the amount of rain that would have been expected if the normal number of tropical storms and hurricanes had struck in the past 2 years.

Exterminator
Darn it, someone cracked the code...

I've posted that question on other GW stories and have (shockingly) gotten no response whatsoever. (Except people noting that I'm getting no response, or that my conditions are far too stringent for most GW advocates. That whole "no genocide" thing is just too much to ask, apparently.)

Incidentally, our seasons are a little different here in DC: Humidity, Humidity and Gridlock, Football, and Threat of Snow.

MLdogg
A few years ago we were having just that problem here in DC. Over the course of 2 winters, the weather frogs predicted at least 5 "Storms of the Century" only to get sprinkles and 36 degrees or the like. One in particular that I remember well: I was on my way to AF Reserve duty one Saturday morning, when the Weather lady said there was a "100% chance" of snow the next day. The Colonels panicked and cancelled Sunday's Reserve activities.

We got 35 and sunny.

Both days.

Not a single drop, flake, or pellet of precipitiation.

After a "100% Chance" prediction.

And we're supposed to buy Global Warming predictions from the UN?

Yes but,,,,
Eventually they will get the unusual season they keep predicting and then that will be all the proof needed that global warming is correct unless of course we have changed the official environmental position to global cooling in which case it will be sufficient proof that global cooling is correct. You guys just don't understand how science works.

Mother
To compound the problems you mention with computer models, the only reason that weather forecasts are as accurate as they are (being slightly better than a wild guess) is that certain pre-existing conditions have a history of resulting in certain other weather patterns: A thunderstorm forming to the west of you is likely to move through your area, because most weather patterns move west-to-east. They say that we have a 30% chance of rain on a given day because the conditions we are experiencing today have resulted in rain 30% of the time throughout history.

If we are to believe GW advocates on part 1 of the Trifecta (That Global Warming exists) then temperatures are higher now than they have been in the whole of recorded history. This being the case, it is physically impossible to decide what will happen, because it's unprescedented. We have no basis on which to make the predictions. There's no history of current conditions, so there's no history of their results. (Again, if you believe the GW advocates.) Yes, there was a history millions of years ago, but we have no real idea what it was like then because there were no people to write things down, we only have "best guesses."

Because the GW advocating politicians are the sorts of people who want government control over every aspect of our lives, they decide to make their guesses dire predictions of impending doom and destruction. On the other hand it's equally valid to guess that if the temperature rises, the tundras in Canada, Alaska, and Siberia will warm up to the point that they will be aerable, thus dramatically increasing the amount of aerable land in the world, and thus aiding in food production.

The point is, we really have no idea what will happen even presuming that it's true.


IF
al bore comes to Indiana and runs around naked, THEN I will buy GW. I should mention that we have had snow 3x and the temp here has run 10-15% below normal, and right now we have anywhere between 2 inches in the south, and up to 12 inches in the north of the state. Someone remind me what day winter starts again? This has been the norm since I was but a wee lad playing in the snow!

Annoy al bore:
FART!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
Tancredo/Hunter 2008!
http://teamtancredo.org/home/
Tom’s best quote: I fully and completely support the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
http://www.gohunter08.com/
Hunter’s bet quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy wing of the Republican Party!

nick
We don't have to wait for an unusual season. A category 1 or 2 Hurricane making landfall in North Carolina and Virginia a few years ago (Isabel, 2003) was enough for them to cry "Proof of Global Warming."

No, if we get that unusual season under Hilary or Obama or (Shudder) Gore, they'll declare martial law and have the military shoot anyone who starts a car with an engine bigger than a hampster wheel. (Democrats, liberal contributors, Lawyers and hollywood actors are exempt, of course.)

Doc
Saturday

It's ALL the fault of global warming!
You have to understand that EVERYTHING -- EVERY DARN THING -- is caused by global warming, and global warming is all the fault of the United States!

According to AlGore®:
- If, one day, the temperature in Zimbabwe is 0.0001 degrees above its average, it's all the fault of US-caused global warming.
- If, one day, the temperature in Germany is 0.0001 degrees BELOW its average, it's all the fault of the US-caused global warming (yes, in fact, AGW kooks actually HAVE said that "global warming could cause temperatures to fall"...see the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" if you don't believe me.)
- If there is a hurricane...during hurricane season...it's all the fault of US-caused global warming.
- If there ISN'T a hurricane, it's all the fault of US-caused global warming.
- If war breaks out in Portugal, it's all the fault of US-caused global warming.
- If someone gets cancer (after smoking 9 packs of cigs per day), it's all the fault of US-caused global warming.

Litterally EVERY SINGLE THING in human history, according to all the AGW kooks, is all the fault of US-caused global warming.

Oh, by the way, China is now the world leader in greenhouse gas production. But remember, it's all the fault of US-caused global warming.

For Happy Jake -- summarising
(1) Because "Global Warming" is most pushed by Al BoarGore, who narrowly escaped FLUNKING all college-level science courses he took. Not accepting this, he's used the shrilling technique of the comic-charachter Calvin (of "Calvin & Hobbes") to make his errors accepted as correct.
(2) Any scientist (even reputable ones) who disagree with Boargore--no more research funds, by order of Boaracle.

A small but not unimportant point
Mr Ridenour says that Hurricane Karen reached a speed of "65 knots per hour." A knot is a unit of speed (one nautical mile per hour), not distance. Knots per hour is an acceleration: does he mean that Karen increased its speed by 65 knots every hour?

It is important to avoid these small technical errors, because they destroy the credibility of the author's argument. If the author's comprehension of the most elementary facts is less than that of the average ten-year-old, why should anyone pay any attention to his opinions on more complex issues?

Happy Jake
Sat? If you’re saying he will come, then in all likely hood I am leaving, I could not take seeing that walrus in the buff for real, I was just making a point!!!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
Tancredo/Hunter 2008!
http://teamtancredo.org/home/
Tom’s best quote: I fully and completely support the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
http://www.gohunter08.com/
Hunter’s bet quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy wing of the Republican Party!

RE: Factualist
You know, you just gave the best argument I ever heard to not pay attention to ANY argument posed by a lefty winger. I can't tell you how many "semi-automatic bolt action assault riffles", "Constitution prohibits searches without a warrants", "blacks were 3/5ths of a persons", etc... I've actually read in what is SUPPOSED to be a "credible source".

I've Said It For Years
The only thing the weather service (and The Weather Channel) is really good at is telling you what it did yesterday. They are only running at about 60% accuracy on what it is doing right now. Their ability to forecast tomorrow's weather is no better than mine, and all I do is look out the window.

Case in point: The Winter Weather Advisory we had here in DC last weekend called for significant accumulations of ice and/or snow. The actual result was a partly cloudy day in the low 40s with almost no precipitation.

Weather reporting
The best way to find out what the weather will be in Toronto tomorrow is to call my friend in Cincinnati and find out what the weather is there today.

There is absolutely no use trying to predict the future because what we end up doing is predicting that the future will be exactly like the present only more so -- and it never is. I was there when our office got its first ThermoFax Machine and we all stood around in awe as it received drawings in California that were transmitted in New Mexico. I recall an office with only two copying machines that were operated by high priests and copies were made only with requisite paperwork. I remember someone stating that buildings would never be taller than five stories because that is as high as most people were willing to climb stairs. Then I remember standing at the top of the World Trade Centre, 102 stories above the street, and literally watching the building sway in the wind.

You cannot even predict that you will wake up in the morning. How can you predict what the weather will be like in fifty years?

Speaking of weather
and our supposed influence over same (as in this stupid man-caused globull warming scam)I'll ask the same questions here I've asked before:

Why, if we truly have the ability to influence climate, isn't somebody doing the Rain Dance when we're in the middle of a hot dry summer? If new carbon emissions standards are *supposed* to help, why not some paint, feathers and a rattle as well?

And, what is the ideal temperature *supposed* to be in each of Earth's climate zones? Who decides, and upon what basis?



Doc
Sorry for the confusion. I was answering "When does winter start."

My appologies.

Re: Bison generated Methane
"Just a question: Just what caused all the ice to melt that at one time covered at least a third of the USA eons ago?"

Buffalo Flatulence?

Weather 'Reporting' not 'Forecast'
If you get a weather report RSS feed, check out the progress throughout the day. You will most likely notice that the 'forecast' changes, sometimes hourly.

Weather people can't forecast the weather, they can only report it. And that's on the same day. I can usually look out the window and have a better prediction.

A 'forecast' for any time in the future is obvious BS.

As for the religion of Global Warming, Greenland was named such for a reason. The Vikings farmed there after all.

Then again, if there were any common sense to the subject, we wouldn't be responding to this column.

John Acton, no it was Mastadon farts!
Or was it dinosaur farts!

Fact: they have no clue as to the actual tempurature of a given area 200 years ago, yet they are basing their theories as if they have had accurate tempurature readings for 10,000 years. Pure lunacy!!

Sure are alot of DC conservatives here!
I remember last weekend well! I had to do some Christmas shopping and I had to visit a mall for the first time in many years. I think that many people believed the forecast as I had no trouble parking or getting around the Springfield mall and the lines for checkout weren't that bad except at that french store, Jean Claude Penne'.

author errors - GW advocate errors
factualist
i understand the need for accuracy in the column. it does reflect badly on his expertise.

that said. why aren't the GW advocates being called on the carpet for their alarmist predictions?

where is the "you said that the temperature would rise, but it peaked in 1996! you and your organization lost your credibility. why should we even listen to anything you ever say again?"

they should not get a free pass.

they do not even talk like real scientists. scientists are looking for the truth. they do not care whether they are right or wrong, just whether they are on the right track.
many of them interact with their peers to confirm what they have found. they freely advertise their assumptions and openly question whether their assumptions are correct.

these guys are nothing but lawyers in labcoats

I have no training in weather predicting
but I know how the local weather forecasts are generated. They can see what's coming because its already in motion. The cold air coming down from Canada at 6 mph will reach us at 10pm on Thursday (for example).

Thats completely different than forecasting what is to come from zero data, one day in the future.

Bottom line - the country taking the most "heat" for GLOBAL warming, the United States, isn't hotter than 1934. Period! There isn't even a warming trend.

Prepare Al Gore's rubber room & muzzle. This wayward prophet has already had his day in the sun.

Why we would ever expect honesty or morals from a democrat I'll never know.

OMG
I see consensus here! AGW is crap.

Good point, AliveInHim!
I live in Alaska where it is about -15 degrees this fine day. We actually like that because it keeps our population low, but if I were to decide what the "ideal" weather was for the Tanana Valley --

Waving my magic wand!

Summer temps with a high of 95 and an evening low of 60 (we already have that when it doesn't rain).

Gradual cooling in September rather than late-August. Real fall season of a month. Snow in late-late-October, early November). Snowy warmish weather through New Years. Cold snap to at least -30 below in January (to keep out those God didn't intend to be Alaskans). Gradual warming in February. March pleasant with snow slowly melting. April slowly turning from brown to green. May pleasant. Summer temps with a high of 95 ... and less rain.

Currently, it cools in late-August, fall is two weeks in September. It snows in mid-October. It's cold November/December/January/February. March is cold, but sunny and trying. Late-March it warms up. April it gradually warms. May goes from brown to green. Then summer hits all at once and we start all over again.

So, what I have is "normal", but what I want is my fantasy to be normal. So, who gets to decide? And, if someone with a fantasy makes the decision, is the decision really "normal"?

For those of you
That believe the bible..
Genesis 3:22
While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat,and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

Now who do you believe? God or Gore?? I know that Gore thinks he is God, but I take the original!!!!!

GENESIS 8;22 NOT 3:22
oops

Holy Cow
As Gomer Pyle would, surprise, surprise. The science of long-term weather forecasting isn't an exact science.............and, probably never will be.

nanna
be very careful girl
algore, hillary, and the aclu are really be gunning for you after that post
the truth is something they truely fear
it exposes them

Great Posts Today
To my fellow Townhallers: Wow 41 posts and no libs showing up to tell us what brain dead backwards heartless scum we are. Maybe they all went away for Christmas(oops sorry not PC). I should have said Winter Holiday. Total agreement folks. Global warming is a scam to reorient our economy. Pray and work that we don't get Hillary, Barack, or John next year or I believe there will be drastic changes to our way of life. These libs have gone off the deep end. Wasn't it Harry Reid who recently said the latest California wildfires were caused by AGW? Even the reporters interviewing him had to call him on it. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year everyone. Wilson out.

Clean water
It will be tragic if this bogus fight agianst global warming diverts resources from the biggest most pressing environmental problem which is lack of access to clean water.

Global warming is just religion trying to pass itself off as science. What a fraud.

Aurora,
Clearly you need get it in gear and do the Sun Dance up there, since it's dark all or most of the time now, no? ;)

It's December. It's SUPPOSED to be cold. July is SUPPOSED to be hot.

Wonder when (or if) the AGW lemmings will figure it out?

Just saw a segment on O'Reilly about a town in Massachussetts wherein the town "selectmen" have decreed the town Christmas lights be turned out to...drumroll...save the planet from Globull Warming!

Looks I just answered my own question...*sigh*



Author Error
My apologies for the redundancy in my column. "Per hour" was included after "knots" inadvertently during a revision.

I do know the definition of "knots" even though I appreciate all the efforts to better educate me. :-) Guess I should have read it one more time.

Thanks!

--Author, "Hurricane Forecasters' 0-for-2 Record Reveals Limits of Climate Science"

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