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Monday, December 29, 2008
Dan Gainor :: Townhall.com Columnist
Madoff Gives Us Lots to Think About This Christmas
by Dan Gainor
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Christmastime is the time of giving. So we can thank Bernie Madoff for giving Americans some special gifts this holiday season.

Yes, I said thank him. OK, maybe not a lot. But the one-time financial wizard’s downfall is a morality tale that provides so many lessons it’s almost impossible to know where to start.

If you’ve been living under a rock, the former chairman of the Nasdaq has been charged with securities fraud. Not just ordinary securities fraud, either. Reportedly, Madoff’s sons turned in their father, and who could blame them. He had allegedly confessed to them “that his investment business was a giant Ponzi scheme’ that cost clients $50 billion, a lawyer for the brothers” told Bloomberg.

How someone could degenerate from such status to being reviled the world over is a story that will soon fill textbooks with lessons for future generations. For starters, Madoff proves P.T. Barnum right. Barnum is credited with the saying, “There’s a sucker born every minute.” Given the world’s population growth, maybe that understates the case.

Besides, you don’t need 6.5 billion people when you know the right ones. Those right people lost $50 billion. The list of victims in this story reads more like a social register than a police report – New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon and charities for U.S. News & World Report Publisher Mort Zuckerman, Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) and Steven Spielberg.

It’s hard to think of such luminaries as “suckers,” but that’s about the size of it. A lot of business is based on trust and Madoff won the trust of the rich and famous. That’s a reminder that difference between rich and poor sometimes is merely the size of their mistakes.

According to The Wall Street Journal, nine of the victims had $1 billion or more under management with Madoff. Five of those were banks. Others included Tufts University, several pension funds and even The Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity. What kind of monster bilks a foundation started by a Holocaust victim?

Since we’re still figuring out the extent of Madoff’s alleged crime, we don’t know enough about him to say. But he’s also giving us a lesson in history, and there we might find some answers. Madoff’s purported crime was a form of pyramid scheme writ large – more commonly known as a Ponzi scheme.

Charles Ponzi, the scam’s namesake, was one of the most unrepentant scumbags in the history of finance. He wasn’t a loveable rogue, just a rogue with no remorse but with oodles of chutzpah. AP describes the Ponzi scam as one where “people are persuaded to invest in a fraudulent operation that promises unusually high returns.”

But Ponzi was special. He bilked Americans for $10 million back in 1919-1920 when that kind of money was a huge fortune. Even as the wolves closed in on Ponzi, making a run on a bank he ran, the namesake of financial schemes personally handed out coffee and donuts to those in line.

Despite all of the Wall Street problems – Fannie Mae, Enron and more – it’s hard to believe we could be so easily taken in by someone long on promises and short on honesty.

But CNBC’s Jim Cramer had a harsh reminder recently that government does this to us all the time. The “Mad Money” host was critical of “everybody in the press, who’s calling Bernie Madoff’s alleged $50 billion scam the ‘largest Ponzi scheme ever.’”

The Dec. 17 show highlighted a much larger and longer running Ponzi scheme – Social Security. “We all know the name of the biggest Ponzi scheme in history and it’s not even illegal. In fact, it is run by the U.S. government. And the name of it – well they call it Social Security,” Cramer explained.

He’s right. The whole premise of Social Security is that more workers will come into the system to prop up those who retire. Only, the number of people working is declining as the number of retirees grows. Eventually, we’ll all count on one worker named Atlas to keep the program going. Money is also an issue. While the program is projected to be insolvent by 2042, it stops bringing in enough cash to cover the outflows as of 2017.

Cramer actually understates the case. Social Security is worse than a Ponzi scheme. At least with Ponzi and his acolytes, you get promises of great wealth and high returns. With Social Security, many of us will be lucky to get our money back.

Barnum was right indeed.

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Dan Gainor is The Boone Pickens Free Market Fellow and director of the Media Research Center’s Business & Media Institute.
 
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People Forget
with Social Security that any money excess to what is needed for the current year gets turned over to the General Fund and an IOU is put in the Social Security lock-box saying the US Government will pay it back. And the only ways for the money to be paid back is: raise taxes to raise the money for the IOUs, cut other spending, or a mix of both.

So we are not even sure if there is actually any money in there. Its a finanicial Schrodinger's cat but we play the game assuming the money is actually there.

Social Security Scam
SS is solvent only if we can solve the problem of eternal population growth and find a source of unlimited resources. With issues like Earth's carrying capacity and the natural shifting of economic powers, Social Security was doomed from the start. The sad part is that these same warnings were sounded when the plan was first concocted, even before it ever passing.

As it stands, there are two options. One, we continue on the path and drive the current working generation into poverty in their golden years. Two, we cut it cold turkey now and drive today's retirees into poverty. As a young, working American, I fully support option two. Since you'd be hard pressed to find a retiree that never spent a dime on alcohol, a new car, a movie or any other luxury, we can safely assume that everyone who considers Social Security as their sole source of income wasted away their resources that should have otherwise been used for retirement. The poorer the person, the more critical this realization is. Being as such, anyone living off of Social Security knowing that the resources are stolen from today's worker is hardly someone we can feel for and should be cut off from their illicit revenue.

As my late Grandfather said, "I will never accept a check from Social Security. I didn't work for it. I will not steal from you, it is wrong. I had my opportunity to enjoy retirement, but I made different choices in life. That is why I still work for my living."

He worked to the day he died at 96 and never cashed a check from the US Government. Retirement is a luxury, if you don't earn enough to retire, you need to work. If a 96 year old man with four different types of cancer, a congestive heart failure and a colostomy bag can be useful then so can anyone.

No one deserves a ride on taxpayer money. Not the children, not the poor and especially not the elderly. We owe them nothing as all we got from their generation was big government and bigger debts to pay off.

Rotate your stock
If there's one thing we've been taught since the days of being stock boys or girls is to rotate your stock. Isn't that what Blagojevich did. He rotated it so good, no one thought to ask questions. Or maybe they did. Who knows? If Blagojevich explained to you based on your losses not to worry because of his system, would you be upset knowing your loss would only be temporary. Should we believe no one asked questions and he was exposed only because he told his son. If there's one thing thats true, the rich looks after the rich. The rich determines which laws by them are considered broken and which laws they will abide by.

wonder
what the poverty rate would be without social security?

family jewels
Okay, what a name..

Get ready for the flood -
Best buy your gold now, now, now, while you still can. Social security ponzi is on about to run out.

Let these rich fools who lost their wealth eat cake, I say. Guaranteed returns? See ya in hell. Many got their wealth via govt. largesse, and I can only pray that they receive no bailout, since the ordinary folks who get screwed all the time get no help whatsoever.

Enjoy living like the rest of us. Lesson learned, do better next time. You might even need to find a real job.

social security
Just another giveaway to create a loyal base of voters. Oh, but whose money is being given away and who is doing the giving. Democracy depends upon ethical behavior and ethical behavior is defined by a higher authority. Think not? If not, you will always have a surfeit of Bernie Madoffs.

Caveat Emptor
The Madoff Ponzi scheme may have one good result. Like the stereotype when you get in legal trouble get a Jewish lawyer, I think the stereotype on Wall Street was Jewish brokers know how to handle money. That stereotype just blew up along with billions of dollars. Investors need to return to the age-old adage: Caveat Emptor!

Greed fueled this massive fraud as well as the entire Wall Street meltdown and, of course, there were more Christians than Jewish investors who got burned.

When will they ever learn?

Social Security Lock Box????
Okay we have a "Ponzi Scheme" in Social Security but it was a democratic congress that decided to spend the "excess" by putting it into the general revenues and now as we near the point of going cash flow negative they don't have the dough. Could our great country have not understood that maybe we might need these funds that were being taken out of the workers salaries sometime in the future and that putting politicans in charge of returning them was folly?

The real lesson
The real lesson learned by the public as taught by Madoff, the final straw, is that it is not just a single bad apple.

Eron fell? Don't worry America, most CEO's are honest and these guys where just a few bad apples.

Bank after bank, scam after scam, America loses its trust in the free-market system by the day. And it finds out that the bad apples are the norm, not the exception.

And this country is going to take a hard left turn to more socialist tendencies. And in the end it will not have been attributable to the left, but the failure of the right. A failure of the right to insure the financial markets policed themselves after de-regulation. FDR put the so called "chinese" wall between investment houses and the banks up. The Republicans took it down. Therefore it was up to the Republicans to see what came after worked.

And since it didn't, hard left Clyde.

At the end of the day, Republicans will prove themselves no more moral than Democrats because, just like Democrats, they will not take responsibility for their failures. Instead, like Democrats, they will blame their failures on the enemy.

And thus we are witnessing the death of the Republican party: no more accountable than Democrats.

Why Social Security
Why was social security put into place?

Answer, 80 percent of the elderly were living in poverty prior to its implementation and FDR felt obligated to do something. Today, the poverty level of the elderly is only 2 points higher than the national average and has been that way for decades. .

So, with that in mind, Social Security has been a raging success. The real lesson with Social Security is that neither the government nor private enterprises respect the pension fund responsibility. If the fund has any money at all, someone is going to rob it.

If the money paided into Social Security by the baby boomers were still there then there would be no problem.

Raiding pension funds is the real lesson. Whether private or public, CEO or congressman, the temptation of money is too much. I get a Social Security statement every year with a total of all I put in. How can getting what I put in out be a Ponzi scheme? It ain't. When Congress decides to spend that money though, of course there won't be any when I retire.

Which suggest we should do what the westerners did to horse thieves.

Any person, politician or executive, who raids a pension fund gets a sentence of death by hanging. You'd have to make that a constitutional amendment to get the politicians.

Of course that will never happen. How many millions of Americans have seen deep losses in the private pensions called 401ks? Most of mine have lost half? Was that a Ponzi scheme too. Hardly.

Justin, Nickel, and othrs

Of course the Soc Sec money has been spent after it was loaned to the US Gov't. But why do you call a Gov’t bond a worthless IOU?
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What will happen to the money that is collected, but not paid out each and every month? Is that going to be the trillion $100 bills in Fort Knox, earning no interest?
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What should they do with all that money they collect, that is not paid out this month?

What they do is exactly what you would do if you had more income than expense, find a place to invest the money, most likely in a Gov’t bond.

Soc Sec taxes in the years up to now?

The excess Soc. Sec payments were “loaned” to the government, not “given” to the Government. All that money sits in US Govt. Bonds, and will have to be paid for, including interest, when they expire, just like all other US Bonds.

Of course that will take taxes to do that, but what is the alternative?

The other thing is, Bill Gates and most likely many people on this site, are rich enough to not collect Soc. Sec, and it is too bad that some of those very same people do not have enough love for this country and its people, so they do not apply for Soc. Sec payments in the first place. It is not forced on you, you must apply.

Go to http://socialsecurity.gov/qa.htm and read
“Frequently Asked Questions About Social Security's Future”

JFYI
Bill Clinton understood the simple measure of how the every man measures money.

His own wallet.

Do you have a 401K? How much did you lose? Half?

If you lost half then one has to ask oneself, will I only be getting half my Social Security check tomorrow? If the answer is NO and Social Security today is paying what it paid yesterday then people WILL have more faith in Social Security TODAY than they will in the stock market because the stock market just lost them HALF of their 401K wallet.

It's that simple.

People have less confidence in 401K retirement than Social Security because the loss in 401K funds happened over night.



some collecting
Drug addicts who take their methadone get social security. And they don't have to be citzens.

Obese people get social security. Lord forbid we should ask them to lose some weight.

My favorite are the parents who declare their children "handicapped" or "disabled" because they cannot behave in school so they get the SSI supplement.

There are WAY too many frauds receiving social security.

But we elect the frauds of the century into office to hand them out.

The morons in Congress are like convicts let loose in the vault of a bank.

But we the "useful idiots" adore.

RealCon
I agree

A Challenge for Dan
Ok, Dan, here is a challenge.

I challenge you to write an article entitled, "401K plans give us lots to think about this Christmas."

And in that article write about how the billions of dollars lost by the common person in 401K plans is a Ponzi Scheme.

Every worker in America gets enticed into investing in the stock market on assurances of better returns than a vanilla savings account. That's a sucker born every minute scam if there ever was one. It only works as long as the new pool of workers continue to pump the stock market. But now that the number of workers is declining? BAM! There goes the stock market and the 401k plans of the retirees.

Nice and neat Ponzi Scheme.

Poster Child
Dan is a poster child for what's wrong with the Republican Party.

Money has become a religion. Dan is against Social Security because he's a Republican and Republicans are suppose to be against Social Security.

However, when it comes to retirement, the millions of Americans are feeling the losses in the investment retirement accounts. Billions of billions of real money wiped out of their investment retirement accounts instantly.

Is Dan writing about that?

No. Why? Because questioning the wisdom of putting money into stocks as a retirement strategy is sacrilege to Republicans. Money is a religion.

Maybe the Republican party should change messages and encourage retirement money by individuals be soley placed in secure instruments like CDs and savings.

But no. Stocks as retirement is a religious belief to the Republicans and no matter how big the losses to millions of Americans, Republicans will never question this sacred belief.

A true conservative
I remember back in the day when the stock market was about dividends. You invested based on dividends paid.

All that changed after 1980. Investments started trending towards stock price gains, away from dividends. So much so that today no one talks about dividends.

Many of my conservative friends jumped on the stock price wagon and invested in Mutual Funds and 401Ks. Not me. All my retirement is in CDs and savings.

Money cannot "earn". Only people can "earn". Putting in $1 and getting back $2, $10 is not "earning". It's greed.

I believe it is morally unhealthy to expect money to "earn", better phrased grow by greed.

I may lose my savings yet, but I know that every dime I have in savings is money I earned.

Expecting something for doing nothing is the socialist/communist work ethic. It is no different with money.

To fix this current economic debacle we need to change our money ethic. We need to go back to investing for dividends. This takes all the pressure off growing stock price. It encourages companies to keep the stock pool small such that dividends paid are spread out over a smaller pool.

We also need to do away with all the funds. Mutual funds, hedge funds, and go back to just stocks, more or less, back to the pre-1980 era of investing.

Dividends typically paced interest rates of a savings account, with sometimes a little extra. There were no mutual funds. You put your money in IBM and watched it fail or grow. With a mutual fund you have no idea if your money is going to the Colombian Drug Cartel or some Chinese sweat shop.






Money Earns = Ponzi Scheme
Ethically it is a Ponzi scheme to expect money to "earn" perpetually. To fix this problem we need to go back to pre-1980 capitalism and focus on dividends, lower the number of stock shares in play. Most people should have their retirement in savings not stocks. The big deception by Republicans over the last 20 years as that Republican policies have indeed been an ownership society where more Americans own stocks and equities than ever before in history, Republicans have forgotten deceptively to mention that almost all of the differences between ownership today and pre-1980 in the general public owning stocks is 100 percent attributable to *retirement* investing. Lose your stocks loses your retirement. That is just not acceptable as a public policy. If anything this guarantees people will need Social Security, something the Republicans claim to be against.

It is time to pull the plug on stocks being the fundamental retirement investment plan for the common american. Expecting 10 percent "earnings" year-after-year is a Ponzi scheme.

We are now seeing the end results.
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