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Monday, December 29, 2008
Dan Gainor :: Townhall.com Columnist
Madoff Gives Us Lots to Think About This Christmas
by Dan Gainor
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But Ponzi was special. He bilked Americans for $10 million back in 1919-1920 when that kind of money was a huge fortune. Even as the wolves closed in on Ponzi, making a run on a bank he ran, the namesake of financial schemes personally handed out coffee and donuts to those in line.

Despite all of the Wall Street problems – Fannie Mae, Enron and more – it’s hard to believe we could be so easily taken in by someone long on promises and short on honesty.

But CNBC’s Jim Cramer had a harsh reminder recently that government does this to us all the time. The “Mad Money” host was critical of “everybody in the press, who’s calling Bernie Madoff’s alleged $50 billion scam the ‘largest Ponzi scheme ever.’”

The Dec. 17 show highlighted a much larger and longer running Ponzi scheme – Social Security. “We all know the name of the biggest Ponzi scheme in history and it’s not even illegal. In fact, it is run by the U.S. government. And the name of it – well they call it Social Security,” Cramer explained.

He’s right. The whole premise of Social Security is that more workers will come into the system to prop up those who retire. Only, the number of people working is declining as the number of retirees grows. Eventually, we’ll all count on one worker named Atlas to keep the program going. Money is also an issue. While the program is projected to be insolvent by 2042, it stops bringing in enough cash to cover the outflows as of 2017.

Cramer actually understates the case. Social Security is worse than a Ponzi scheme. At least with Ponzi and his acolytes, you get promises of great wealth and high returns. With Social Security, many of us will be lucky to get our money back.

Barnum was right indeed.

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Dan Gainor is The Boone Pickens Free Market Fellow and director of the Media Research Center’s Business & Media Institute.
 
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Money Earns = Ponzi Scheme
Ethically it is a Ponzi scheme to expect money to "earn" perpetually. To fix this problem we need to go back to pre-1980 capitalism and focus on dividends, lower the number of stock shares in play. Most people should have their retirement in savings not stocks. The big deception by Republicans over the last 20 years as that Republican policies have indeed been an ownership society where more Americans own stocks and equities than ever before in history, Republicans have forgotten deceptively to mention that almost all of the differences between ownership today and pre-1980 in the general public owning stocks is 100 percent attributable to *retirement* investing. Lose your stocks loses your retirement. That is just not acceptable as a public policy. If anything this guarantees people will need Social Security, something the Republicans claim to be against.

It is time to pull the plug on stocks being the fundamental retirement investment plan for the common american. Expecting 10 percent "earnings" year-after-year is a Ponzi scheme.

We are now seeing the end results.

A true conservative
I remember back in the day when the stock market was about dividends. You invested based on dividends paid.

All that changed after 1980. Investments started trending towards stock price gains, away from dividends. So much so that today no one talks about dividends.

Many of my conservative friends jumped on the stock price wagon and invested in Mutual Funds and 401Ks. Not me. All my retirement is in CDs and savings.

Money cannot "earn". Only people can "earn". Putting in $1 and getting back $2, $10 is not "earning". It's greed.

I believe it is morally unhealthy to expect money to "earn", better phrased grow by greed.

I may lose my savings yet, but I know that every dime I have in savings is money I earned.

Expecting something for doing nothing is the socialist/communist work ethic. It is no different with money.

To fix this current economic debacle we need to change our money ethic. We need to go back to investing for dividends. This takes all the pressure off growing stock price. It encourages companies to keep the stock pool small such that dividends paid are spread out over a smaller pool.

We also need to do away with all the funds. Mutual funds, hedge funds, and go back to just stocks, more or less, back to the pre-1980 era of investing.

Dividends typically paced interest rates of a savings account, with sometimes a little extra. There were no mutual funds. You put your money in IBM and watched it fail or grow. With a mutual fund you have no idea if your money is going to the Colombian Drug Cartel or some Chinese sweat shop.





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