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Friday, August 22, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama: Nothing New Here?
by Jonah Goldberg
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The Democrats are having their flop-sweat moment. Barack Obama should be way out in front. The Republicans are in terrible shape. There hasn't been a more battered brand name since Bart Simpson swallowed a jagged metal "O" from his box of Krusty-O's cereal. The GOP has nominated an old white-haired dude, in Paris Hilton's words, who makes Dick Cheney look like a lambada champion. He'll be the kind of president who will yell from the Oval Office window, "You kids get off my lawn!" The economy isn't roadkill quite yet; it's sort of like wounded roadkill, flopping around, unable to get going but unwilling to lay down and die.

And yet, John McCain is pulling ahead of Obama. The latest Reuters poll has Grandpa Munster up five percentage points over our secular messiah. The Real Clear Politics average of polls has Obama and McCain in a virtual tie. And, according to RCP, if the race were held today and McCain took the toss-up states where he's currently ahead, he'd be the next president.

Yes, it's early. McCain has had a good couple weeks. But these were McCain's first good couple weeks since he secured the nomination. Meanwhile, with the exception of the Jeremiah Wright unpleasantness, Obama has had a good couple years.

The winds at the Democrats' backs are hurricane-force gales, and yet there's Obama holding steady, like a young Dan Rather in his schoolgirl rain slicker, immobile and unmovable.

Ask the typical Obama supporter why this should be so and you'll get a range of answers. Some just stare at the poll numbers the way my late basset hound would look at me when I tried to feed him a grape: with pure unblinking incomprehension. Others act like the guy who sits alone with his shopping bags at the public library, muttering about Fox News conspiracies and how Karl Rove-like aliens are doing terrible things with probes of proctological exactitude. Still others just shake their heads at the racism of anyone who could possibly have a problem with a very left-wing politician with almost no experience, who often sounds like his campaign slogan is: "People of Earth! Stop Your Bickering. I Am From Harvard, And I'm Here To Help."

Perhaps therein lies the answer to this supposed mystery. Indeed, perhaps there's no mystery at all, and Obama's problems are the same problems Democrats always have at the presidential level: He's an elitist.

Oh, I know. Upon reading that, some liberal spluttered herbal chai tea from her nose at the injustice of this whole elitist canard, and the earnest Ivy League interns at some liberal magazine have burst into laughter, offering the appropriate bons mots from Balzac at the preposterousness of such a suggestion, saying: "Don't you conservatives understand? Democrats care about the little guy. They're on the side of the proletariat - I mean workers - and as Obama has so eloquently put it, if the workers would only stop clinging to their silly sky god and guns, they'd understand that."

Liberalism is often a problem at the presidential level. Cultural liberalism is a burden. Haughty cultural liberalism is a disaster in the making. For good or ill, the presidency is a cultural institution as much as it is a political institution. And it's fundamentally a culturally conservative one. Fair or not, many perceive Obama as a cultural outsider. This week, Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said of Obama's friendship with former left-wing domestic terrorist Bill Ayers: "They're friends. So what?"

Psephologist and columnist Michael Barone noticed during the primaries that, with the exception of the black vote, Obama's support within the Democratic Party is comprised almost entirely of cultural liberals. He dubbed this intra-Democratic split a divide between "academics and Jacksonians." The Jacksonians are working-class, culturally conservative whites. The academics are the same people who formed the base for Howard Dean, Bill Bradley, Michael Dukakis, Gary Hart, George McGovern and other successful presidents in the anti-matter universe where Spock has a goatee.

In this universe, however, you need Jacksonians more than you need academics to win a general election, which is one reason why no non-Southern Democrat has won the presidency in nearly a half-century. It's not that voters love Southerners, either. Rather, Southern Democrats simply seem more Jacksonian (even so, only Jimmy Carter won with a majority of the popular vote).

Obama may still win, of course, proving that America is not only ready for a black president, but a cultural liberal as well. If he loses, though, you can be sure Democrats will claim he lost not because he is a black and more charming Michael Dukakis, but simply because he is black. Because liberals are never wrong.

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MusicMan
Like most other large crowds gathered in life, they are composed of those who do not have to work for some reason or the other. These are not normal people and unrepresentative.

Most of us have to work and have little time to to attend gatherings. We are the 60% identified in this article (which Rush just reviewed).

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/the_biggest_missing_ story_in_p.html

Republicans: Don't Fear Obama's Crowds
August 24, 2008

Ever since I started covering Election 2008 I have heard Republicans express both awe and trepidation at what they translate as strength at the polls as evidenced by the huge crowds, media protection, fainting and Hollywood adoration. Just today, I started wondering whether all these individuals are rather simplistically going out to see a celebrity and we will be shocked when Obama gets beaten badly in November. I am suggesting that we may not be seeing an equation between uncommitted attention at stadiums and actual vote casting. I think there will be plenty of vote denial and mike fright in the booth this time around. It's like Bruce Springsteen drawing millions but no one would support him from a political standpoint. It sounds to me like the Britney-Paris ad hit home.

commonsenseunlimited

Dukakis wants his reputation back
I think comparisons of Barack Obama to Michael Dukakis are irresponsible and an insult to Dukakis. As bad as Dukakis was, Obama is a much more dangerous candidate. Dukakis didn't spend 20 years listening to Rev. Wright's insane rants. Dukakis didn't buddy up with a terrorist like Bill Ayers. Dukakis didn't seek out and surround himself with communists his entire life like Obama. Obama is far and away the worst, most dangerous candidate in my lifetime.

Barack Obama isn't dangerous because of his inexperience - he's dangerous because of his experience. Because of his skills and lying and misrepresenting himself, he quickly rose through the Chicago corruption factory, the Illinois corruption factory, and the Washington corruption factory. That kind of meteoric rise can only be achieved be a person with a uncommonly dangerous ability to make corruption work for him. Obama's facility for corruption even outstrips the Clintons'. Fortunately, Bill Clinton was focused on his sexual escapades, not destroying the country. Not Obama. Obama has said exactly what he wants to do - he wants to destroy the country by forcing it to change into Europe or the Soviet Union.

Saint Obambi v. McCain Feingold
It is close to sunset when [two] small men cast long shadows.--Proverb

It is interesting that the left is about as upset with their choice as the right is with theirs. Maybe the moderate left will vote for Democrat Lite McCain, but in any event, everyone's choices are severely limited this year.

Denver might be big
Can you see 75,000 screaming, swooning idiots yelling "Yes We Can!" "Yes We Can!" as their messiah gives a sermon. The only thing BO evidently learned at the racist cesspool that is Trinity UCC was how to give a top notch oration that has people believing every word you say comes from above, and shouting "Amen, tell it like it is."

The cadence, the inflection, the use of Biblical symbols (my father a simple goatherder translates to I am the son of The Good Shepherd) are all tried and true take offs on the oh so wrong Rev Wright.

Talk about Mile High stadium. They need to do a drug test on the attendess and the speaker, BO did say he liked alittle blow. The Democrates take a hard left turn and end up at a Nuremburg rally. Maybe they can pass out torches and have a big book burning rally using Obamanation, The Case Against BO and Unfit for Command as fuel.

Pelosi and Reid as the two top elected
Dems need to have featured roles. Peloopsee can give a brief talk about how she is personally saving the planet by opposing ever drilling another US oil well. Reid can tell all that the US needs to forget about nuclear power because NV will never serve as a dump for nuclear waste!

That should win the vote of a least 85% of the evironmental nuts but it might be a hard sell to most Americans.


Scotch Indian
Obama's life is like a pot of water boiling on the stove. It starts boiling over and the news media moves the pot off the burner and it cools down.

Then it heats back up and starts to boil. Maybe at the convention next week,no one will cool it down and it will boil over. There's plenty there,if it can be allowed to be told. I just hope it happens before it's too late.

Potential Constitutional Crisis
Potential Constitutional Crisis
Was Obama born in Kenya?

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011236.html

Parting kimono ... or dropping trousers
The unveiling of the Bill Ayers / BHO relationship is instructive.

First, BHO plausibly said ... "I served on a board with him, but didn't really know him". I serve on charitable boards ... this is plausible.

Then it came out that Billy and Bernadine hosted BHO's first political fund raiser in their home. Let's see ... BHO is a smart guy, Harvard grad no less, and he doesn't know who Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn are? Now this incident has my attention and the BS meter is turned on.

Now BHO says "He (Ayers) is just a guy who lives in the 'hood ... a professor of English or something".

Next it comes out that right before 9/11 Billy Ayers published his book "Fugitive Days" and posed trampling the American flag in articles published in Chicago. So it's becoming less likely that BHO knew nothing about Ayers.

More information comes out about the Annenberg Foundation and the hidden records, and now MAYOR DALEY of all people tells us "yes, they were friends ... so what?" The "so what" is that BHO has lied about the friendship from day one.

Now BHO's website takes a new approach ... the cat is out of the bag, we all know that BHO and Billie are backscratching political pals and soulmates, so now we here that Billy Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn ARE MAINSTREAM PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!

Jonah, you should read "Fugitive Days" -- it's very revealing... Billy shows himself as a spoiled, narcissistic little dweeb. David Horowitz has a good section on Billy and Bernie in "Destructive Generation". And if you really want to understand BHO, read Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals". Remember, BHO was trained by Alinsky's Industrial Areas Foundation, which says among other things that the objective is revolution, the means justifies the end, and shows you some of the techniques BHO is using in his campaign.


Do you think Obama's henchmen
can find a solution to McCain's surge toward election? At the rate Obama's going they have some serious damage control to deal with. His track record on abortion has flip-flopped lots of voters. His trip to Germany was a little insulting. His redesign of his plane was insulting.

These are not the domestic and foreign policy platforms that Americans need to be cognizant of BUT they pay attention and judge Obama.


charles martel
I am only passing on what I read. I have no clue how people came up with this geneology either. But even assuming he is 50% black he still could have opted to seek more identity from his mother and grandmother who played an active role in raising him and providing for his private school education than the father who abandoned him and took no hand in raising or providing financial support

It would seem he has some real issue problems if this was the identity search he maintains was a driving force in his life

Oops
I apologize for my spelling error. I am not into ad hominem debate tactics.

Left Angle
Live by the sword, die by the sword. Obama won the nomination because black demoncrats went 90 plus for him. 50/50 would have given it to Hillary. Are you one of those folks who say race played no role?

an ethnographer speaks...
I really don't see where all this Arab nonsense comes from.

I've seen photos of Barack Hussein Obama Sr, and I have a lot of trouble imagining him to be even half Arab. Go ahead, look him up. He looked like your average Kenyan -- i.e., Congoid. Sure, Arab traders plied the waters off East Africa for centuries, and yes, they left their genes along with their contemptible cult, but... 42%??

I had to get out my calculator just to figure out how one could be 42% anything. Assuming that no cousins, however distant, married each other in the last two centuries -- a problematic assumption in a society that has always been both rural and tribal -- you're suggesting either (1) that, sometime around the first quarter of the Nineteenth Century, 27 of Barry Jr.'s 64 great-great-great-great-grandparents were full-blooded Arabs, or (2) that sufficient intermarriage had occurred by that time between the Luo and the Arabs to render the entire Luo population approximately 84% of Arab extraction.

Look at the photo of Senior again. Do you see a man who is more than 3/4 Arab?

Obama Sr. was a Luo. The Luo live in the west of Kenya, along the shores of Lake Victoria, about as far from the once-Arab-ruled coast as you can get and still be in Kenya.

Even if any of this were true, it would be a non-issue. His ethnicity is irrelevant, and continuing to dwell on it is embarrassing. Worse, it's what he wants you to do.

No, it's his sympathies that disturb me.

Now, if there's gold in his birth certificate, then mine it. But if it's pyrite, throw it back and move on already.


Government Run Economies
It is my sincerest hope that those who will vote against Obama just because he's black will cancel out those who vote for Obama just because he's black. It will then come down to those who take the threat of more socialism seriously and those who don't. Obama's argument has thus far been: people who create wealth are bad because they don't share their wealth with everyone evenly. Therefore it is up to government to confiscate their wealth because government can distribute wealth in a more judicial fashion. Taxation, therefore, becomes punative (can you say "windfall profit's tax"?)rather than collectively beneficial. History has shown that economies run by government don't work and I'll tell you why. Governments, by their very nature, are incabable of creating wealth. Individuals, who are capable of creating wealth, are unable to when government takes away their incentive to do so. This stuff is really simple. It amazes me that people like Left Angle and others are incapable of seeing it. As it stands now we're looking to vote for the lesser socialist (same with GW and Gore). I personally would love to see a black president if for no other reason than to shut certain people up. I can't, however, see voting for more socialism. The country has been damaged enough by the socialism already in place.

Left Angle
OK, all these gazillions of white people who won't vote for a black guy. You think that's going to matter.
There aren't that many of them.

How do you explain all those lilly-white states he won in the primaries, like Iowa?
You're just setting up a pre-excuse for him in case he loses. Couldn't be about anything but race....
Makes me tired.

And no, I am not one of the conservatives who hates McCain. I actually consider him the best prepared candidate I've seen in decades and want him to be president. I voted for him in the primaries.
That said, I can't imagine a worse candidate than barack Obama, and would probably vote for dang near anyone running against him. I'd have even preferred Hillary to him if one has to be Potus. (eeeeeuuuuuw).

(It's about color all right: he's too green...and his politics are too red)).

Racism and the election
Left D'angle writes: ""I'm just sitting here reading the above responses and shaking my head in disbelief at some of what I'm reading. For repubs/cons to sit there and pretend that racism has absolutely nothing to do with this election is absolutlely preposterous and unbeleivable.""

There's plenty of Racism involved here, just not the kind LA is whining about.

90% of thew black population plans to vote for Obama, because of Race. Obama has been elevated to his present position due to race.

Geraldene Ferraro had it right this spring when she said a White candidate with Obama's lack of credentials would have been laughed off the ticket. She was booted from her position in the clintoon campaign for her troubles.

Get used to the Racism charges folks, because you know when the empty suit from chicago loses (and he Will) the whole country will be accused of racism.

The fact that he has fewer qualifications than I do, or that he's a marxist, elitist who has never as much as run a kool-aid stand will be totally ignored, it will all be because he "Looks different than the presidents on our currency"

Racism will be their default fall back position.

It's sad to see, but in the long run, as long as he loses, I could care less why people Don't vote for Obama.


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I think the answer
is wholly and completely explained in that it was more advantageous for him to discover and promote his black identity. It was that identity that allowed him to pursue an education, that is not available to everyone, and it was that identity that opened doors to opportunity.

Furthermore, contrary to the screams of many on the left, it is not racist to suggest that he would not be the democratic nominee, if he were not black. He is young, he is inexperienced, and he is known to have highly questionable opinions and associations.

Don C
Sgt/USMC
(1971-75)

Obama And His House Of Cards--Marxism
"Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year, just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii and bought his own million-dollar mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses? Does a guy who worries about the price of arugula and thinks regular people "cling" to guns and religion in the face of economic hardship really want to have a debate about who's in touch with regular Americans?' --McCain spokesman Brian Rogers

Obama attacks McCain because Cindy McCain owns investment properties that were bought and paid for by her and her families Earned Monies. Class Warfare and Envy at work. The true work of a Marxist, such as Obama and his DNC handlers.

Everything that McCain and Cindy was worked for. Unlike, Obama and Michelle, who have been given everything they have either in the way of Campaign Contributions as a tradeoff for funnelling Federal and State Dollars into private hands of criminals and others. Obama who got Favored Financing For a Home He otherwise could not afford. Wonder what that little real estate deal cost us taxpayers. Or the millions of Federal Tax Dollars funnelled to a so-called Non Profit Hospital where his wife works as a Glorified Secretary and netted Michelled a 200 thousand plus dollar pay raise.

So, Obama, really needs to be careful of criticizing McCain and his wife Cindy, while Hussein Obama and his Hate-Filled Hussy of a wife Michelle, have everything they have thanks to Tax Payers and Criminals. McCain and his wife made theirs the old fashioned way. They Worked For It. Maybe Obama and his Sense of Entitlement Following will try working for a living, and earn a little Respect For Taxpayers, instead of Promising To Fleece Taxpayers and redistribute their Hard Earned Money to Deadbeats or for so-called Non Profit Hospitals who pay secretaries, such as Michelle a salary of 325 thousand a year just as a payback for Obama's Senate influence.

charles matrtel
others maintain that based on his heritage that his geneology shows him to be 50% white, 7 % or so black and some 42 or % arab.

But this idea that he needed a black identity shows he failed to learn the message of dr king who believed you judge on character not race.

But I am also a first generation american as my parents were amongst the lucky who escaped before hitler invaded czechoslovakia(sp)

But upon coming here they learned english, took classes and became american citizens. When my father turned 18 he joined the army, hoping to return to europe to fight against the nazi's, however the war soon ended and he missed his chance to fight for his new county

But I was raised to believe in the greatness of america and how how work could bring a person rewards.

But that's why I am troubled by this notion that b hussein needed to find a black identity. It seems more a course for seeking a political career but turning to wright as a mentor/father figure defies understanding.

That's the reason I question his understanding of america and why he denied his white heriitage to take up his minority heritage. Being a bi-racial person it seems more natural that he would likewise celebrate his white heritage but this seems to be the thing he felt the need to deny

American identity
I don't fault Obama for having tried to find his "black identity". His earliest years were largely devoid of it.

His father left when he was two -- i.e., before an age where Junior might remember his having been there. For the next four years, he was raised by his mother, a white woman. For the subsequent four years, he lived in Indonesia among Indonesians. Upon his return to Hawaii at the age of ten, he was raised by another white woman, his grandmother. I haven't read either of his autobiographies, but I'd expect that he hadn't spent much time around other blacks until he went to college in Los Angeles.

I will not condemn him for joining Wright's church, but I will condemn him for staying there for twenty years. Oprah Winfrey joined too, but she apparently thought better and left. If Wright's sermons had not become common knowledge already, Obama would surely still be there: point of fact, he didn't leave until after Wright's performance at the National Press Club made it clear that none of the most damaging remarks had been taken out of context.

Both of my parents were immigrants, so, though born here, I've always felt a little bit foreign. (We're French, so in the interest of disclosure, I pretty much grew up on Brie and Chablis.) This is not uncommon in America, and I haven't had too much trouble acculturating to my fellow citizens. But unlike the junior senator from Illinois, I don't despise them for the grip they have on their liberties: their liberties are my liberties. I revel in them too and don't consider them merely an obstacle to my political ambitions.


Oldsocialworker et al
April 18, 2005
Last November, we reported on a pending U.S. Supreme Court decision involving the separation by race of newly transferred male prisoners in the California prison system. In the real world of the penitentiary, where so much physical violence is tied to racial hostility, administrators have established policies to maintain some degree of safety for inmates and prison staff. Although these policies differ by state, some form of control related to race is not unusual.

In 2001, a brutally honest report by the liberal-oriented Human Rights Watch highlighted the crisis of rape in prisons, especially rape suffered by whites and others at the hands of more physically powerful black men. It was clear, even back in November, that most of the Justices, suffused as they are in the quasi-religious notion of "integration at any price and any pain," would vote against the prison administrators' race separation policies and override the ruling of the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.

On February 23, the Opinion of the Court was delivered by Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. True to the spirit of recent decades of social engineering, O'Connor, along with Justices Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, Breyer and Stevens agreed that race should not be used as a factor in inmate housing assignments. Justice Thomas, joined by Justice Scalia, dissented--rather vigorously.

http://www.issues-views.com A primarily black website standing up for justice in the United States.

Left Angle

I bring this up and will continue to bring it UP FOREVER.

Your responses are always based on anything BUT facts, logic and reason.

I am actually embarrassed for you - you make a fool of your self and don't even realize it.


leftangle
The intellectual liberal that has responded not just once, but several times in the past, while being challenged on his defense of oblama, "If you don't believe me, just go to his website and read it for yourself".

Most amazing confession of ignorance I have heard in all my years.

In any case, that pretty much sums up his defense and his I.Q.

So, once I discovered the depth of his defense, I now skip his posts and read the rebuttal that is sure to follow.

By the way lefty, did you ever get over to McCains website and read what he had to say? If not why not? That was the challenge you issued.

If you did, then congratulations because that is more than I have done. You see I haven't been to either website because it is the last place I will go to find information on a cnadidate.

If you did visit McCain's website, maybe you can tell us if you believe him, and if not why not?

Don C
Sgt/USMC
(1971-75)

For the little guy?
Jonah states (sarcatically I'm sure) the Dems portray themselves as "for the little guy". In actuality they only care about the little guy for votes, selling entitlements for votes. Dems only care about BIGGER Government, enacting legislation to keep citizens under the government's umbrella as the government controls more and decreases individual liberty and self reliance. I loved "Liberal Fascism" (it really educated me as far as where Progressivism originated)and pray he does a book on Progressive history to enlighten even "Progressives". Jonah, you're the best!!!!

charles martel
it still remains troubling that the messiah claims he joined wright's church to find his black identity.

But it seems that finding an american identity has escaped him as has an understanding of who are the people who make up this wonderful country.

That he feels at home with the coastal elites, believing that being nuanced with the brie and chablis set, shows a disdain for the great unwashed.

Charles Martel
Well said and right on the money!

exwyominite
earlier in the week, someone welcomed left dangle to his first presidential campaign. It proves what many of have maintained concerning this clown who gives the daily talking points from his masters at moveon, he is totally clueless concerning politics and his loyalty to the the candidate of hope and change with no substance.

But with his youth he thinks his ability to cut and paste or point out websites proves he has debating skills. But repeating the same things week after week after week doesn't win debates

No, Left Angle...
I'm sure that race will be a factor in the votes of millions of Americans this year. But, unlike you, I think that there are far fewer whites who will not vote for Obama because he is black than there are blacks who won't vote for anyone else for the same reason.

Obama evidences only one color that prevents me from ever voting for him, and it's red.


eddietoo/ole social worker
eddie2 you stated:

"These are all positions contrary to Obambi."

oh really, where does obama state that he is in opposition to any of that? prove it or else you are talking out the side of your neck. you repubs/cons kill me with your "holier than thou"
approach. I could care less about obama's past associations, guilt by them is bs, plus none of those people are on the ballot anyway. I also said i dont believe that whites who will under no circumstance vote for a person of color or
a female for potus arent racist or sexist, I aid i beleive their beliefs are INHERENT.

ole socialworker:

you guys really dont read do you...look at the post above mine..the determining factor in all of them is that they dont believe race has absolutely nothing to do with this election or
the rejection of some whites of obama due to it
and their belief that if obama loses it will be brought up as the prime reason for it..that is total bs. THAT is my point

Obama's Supporters
Barack Hussein Obama is losing support every day. The more he talks of the cuff,the sillier he sounds and acts.

As long as he was orating from a prepared script,he sounded so high and mighty. Many fell for the oratory and not the contents. They are now looking at the contents and it scares them.

Every day on every thread,the same,whining liberal posters say the same things about their messiah and how we are racist because we don't support him.

Conservatives do not support left-wing liberals no matter who or what they are. So much for that little piece of crap. If he was white as the driven snow,I would not support him because of his idealogy.

Obama-Bayh vs McCain... Pawlenty?
While Obama might want to select Sebelius (just what the heck IS wrong with Kansas anyway?), he'll be compelled by the numbers to pick Bayh.

Obama can't pick anyone to his left: there isn't anyone to his left. I'm sure he'd want to pick someone with the same radical ideas he has -- hardcore pro-abortion, "green" to the point of madness, etc. -- but his advisors are just time-servers if they don't steer him away from that. He has to pick someone with "gravitas" (remember that one from 2000?), hence all the stories, trailing off only recently, about Sam Nunn. I'd be willing to bet that Indiana's Evan Bayh is this year's Lloyd Bentsen.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle (actually, our candidate has spent entirely too much time IN the aisle, but we have to move past that now)... McCain ought not pick any of the guys who LOST when they ran against him. As I have written elsewhere, McCain would do well to consider his own weaknesses and to recall that those guys lost to him despite them.

Like Obama, he needs to pick someone who complements the ticket: that is, who provides balance where McCain is weak and assurance where he is strong; someone with good pro-life and budget hawk credentials; who is firmly committed to US sovereignty and territorial and cultural integrity; someone with executive experience (like a second term or longer governor) and who ideally could put a blue state in play.

When it comes to presidential elections, there is no bluer state than Minnesota. It is literally the one and only state to have gone for the Democrat in all of the last seven elections (1980-2004); only the District of Columbia matches that. And yet, Minnesota put Norm Coleman in the Senate and put Tim Pawlenty in the governor's house twice now. So I have to ask: is there anything wrong with Pawlenty?

Seriously, any of you guys see a deal killer in the Man from MN?


LA,

I think what Obambi supporters and the mainstream media are calling racist most people would call pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Second Amendment rights, smaller government, lower taxes, less debt, stronger defense, winning the WOT. These are all positions contrary to Obambi. It seems to me there are plenty of reasons to support JSM instead of Obambi.

The above reasons do not even go to Obambi's friendships with terrorists (Ayers and Dohrn), his mentoring under black racists (Rev. Wright and his congregation), describing small town and rural Americans as disgruntled people who cling to God and guns because they believe government does not serve them, being shamed by we Americans who are not bi-lingual, and his accepting of financial favors and financial campaign donations from Rezko, the convicted felon.

So, for most, if not all, of those opposed to Obambi (Obambi goes to Obama's tendency to whine and display weakness) are opposed for reasons other than race. If that is too hard for the liberals and Dems to understand, reread the prededing two paragraphs.

Left Angle, yeah- so?
There are whites who will not vote for a black. There are men and women who won't vote for a woman, and some who won't vote for a man. There are blacks who won't vote for a white or Hispanic. Likewise, Hispanics who won't vote for a black. When I worked in a prison, the lighter skinned blacks and the darker skinned blacks hated each other. The Puerto Ricans, Cubans, and Mexicans hated each other. In fact, so many groups hated each other to the degree that cell block assigments were decided based upon crisis control. People groups all over the world don't like other groups- look at Africa and its tribes, the middle east, and Europe. All human beings prefer their own group to others. All.

There is absolutely nothing that can be done about it-nor should there be in thought policey, nit-picky, PC way we've been doing things thusfar. What we need to do is have high societal standards and a prosperous common purpose- that overrides any tribal mentality better than the Gladys Kravitz screeching from the American left. Society needs to encourage personal bests, not enable personal sloth. Obama does not have the slightest grasp of this concept; stuff we've been doing for 40 years (well, for me 25) is new to him!

retired gee: lets get something straight
that discussion happened long ago and is dead
and gone, why you keep bringing it up i really dont know, but lets get a few things straight.
you are putting words in my mouth i never said or saying i believe things that i didnt say as far as conspiracies.

the way this topic came up was because of a report from john hopkins university i was reading that stated there was a preponderance of liquor stores in black urban areas and a lack of them suburban white areas. so at first glance, I said yeah thats true, so I asked the th regulars why is that? I said absolutely nothing about a conspiracy.

your answer as well as others was strictly "supply and demand". I said thats part of the answer but not the ONLY ANSWER.
I pointed out to you other reasons such as it has to with zoning laws in the suburbs, city government restrictions & white people wont put up with it and police enforcement. I also stated that i think it is much easier to get a liquor liscense in the city rather than the suburbs. apparently that went over your noggin.

finally I stated the idea that urban blacks consume more alchohol than suburban whites is ludicrous, it's just done differently. as a matter of fact i asked some of my black friends this question and there reaction was incredulous. they said to me.

"Pretty much when you see black guys go into a
liquor store they might buy a pint of liquor and a 40 oz malt liquor...when was the last time
you saw a black guys roll out the store with a couple of barrells (kegs)of beer and gallons of Jack Daniels as white guys do?" lmao

Obama has crawled upon much purple
throughout his life. He is like a child who has been complimented and applauded for every utterance and action he ever produced. Obama has very much been part of politics as usual- a "community organizer" indeed. Given that criteria, I should be a viable candidate for president.

I'm encouraged though. Some of my social work colleagues have changed their minds about Obama and no longer support him. Some were very upset by his postion on babies that survive and abortion- especially the case involving the Down's Syndrome baby. We have a large department of disabilities in NJ, and most people involved have a personal reason for being in the field. Some have become outright Obama protesters. This is the first time I've seen any overt dissent from the democrat party at work - its very much assumed we are all democrats.

Most Americans Want to be Winners!

At the Olympics, the American Spirit is evident among the atheletes. These atheletes are winners even when they lose.

I am especially impressed by atheletes like Lebron James and Kobe Bryant who would never have to work another day in their lives if they quit today. Millionaires all they are giving everything they have to be #1 in the world for America.

Candace Parker is one of my favorite atheletes.

She was 5' tall in kindergarten and I have followed her career for several years. Any father would be proud to have a daughter like her.

Obama is more interested in being a 'Citizen of the World' than an American citizen.

Obama is an American loser instead of an American winner.

_________ISMs are sad but true.
"do you believe that there are whites here in the u.s. that will under no circumstances vote for a person....."
Yes, though the question was not directed towards me, I believe so. What troubles me about the phrasing of this question is that it is a racially charged, racial question. I think that a better question would read, "... that there are PEOPLE here..." Still the answer is yes, but the results vary significantly. Sadly, people are going to vote for a candidate based soley on skin color or sex, but the truth of the matter (from my personal experience) is that it is going to help Obama as opposed to hurt him. He will virtually recieve the entire "Black" vote and sadly it has nothing to do with his views, just his skin. My mother-in-law is going to vote for him also because of race, though in a different way. She thinks that, "We owe it to him." I don't think that is any way to choose a president, but we are obviously different people. I like to research pertinent topics, and she likes to watch "Judge Judy" all day.

It is my hope that the positive and negative forces of racism will cancel each other out, leaving the true subject matter on the table.

Good Times?
I DISAGREE that Obama has had a good couple of years. He has been on a losing streak since the New Hampshire Primary. Swirling down.

Left Angle Obsessed - WhiteConspiracy
I must tell you a story about Left Angle.

LA was describing various conspiracies by whites to destroy blacks when he suddenly blurted.

Left Angle wrote: "...but therin lies another problem..in urban situations alchohol is readily available on just about any neighborhood corner..in white suburban neighborhoods, this is hardly the case. you tell me why?..."

LA said that zoning boards and other government officials were destroying black communities with liquor.

I explained in as simple terms as I could, supply and demand.

Here is an excerpt of my reply:
Supply and Demand dictates that that the price of a good reaches equilibrium when the demand for the good matches the supply.

If there is more demand than supply, the price goes up and the number of suppliers usually increase.

If supply exceeds demand, the price goes down and the number of suppliers usually decrease.

No matter how large the supply - NO one has to partake, that is a personal decision.

I asked LA to explain why a Black controlled city like Detroit has the same problem he had described?

LA said I was merely explaining away the issue.

NOT HERE TO HELP
Obama and ilk are not from Harvard and here to help: they are here from the ivory towers to tell you how to live your lives which are so rotten because you aren't from Harvard, actually work 9 to 5, like bowling, drink non-tap beer, drive a truck, like Southern fried food, cam distinguish a Bible from Playboy, want to keep the money you earn, and value all the Admendments.
As most of my family are bonafide elitists their point of view is they scored well on the SATs, got into exclusive universities, proved how smart and much better than everyone else by getting straight A's, secured the high-paying sinecure their hearts desired, and now justify their success by serving soup every couple months at the homeless shelter but live in gated communities where they NEVER meet anyone not of the same elitist calibre except the gatekeeper, their housemaid, and the au pair who raises their kids.
They are not shocked by any of Obama's radical associations or remarks. They find no moral problem with aborting *live* babies and putting them in freezers to starve and die because abortion makes women powerful, and they are not offeded by a Bill Ayers saying he should've blown up more bombs because they think violence is really romantic and the quickest way to permanent change. They'd never join the military but think union goons and demonstration violence is culturally acceptable.
They believe conservatives and Reps. are somehow mentally deficient and need the elite to keep the cogs of living oiled.
They are so delusional having a rational discussion about any topic is nearly impossible, and they all think this time next year America will have proven it is not totally racist and troglodyte when Obama becomes pres. IF and when he doesn't, they will be positive Darth Vader rigged the voting machines in Ohio again, and Dick Cheney kept blacks from voting by putting shotguns to their heads.

Obama may Have Cheated Hillary
Barack Obama edged out Hillary Clinton in the pledged delegate count largely due to his victories in caucus states.

Obama won 13 out of 14 caucuses, but only 18 out of 39 primaries. 42% of Obama’s wins were caucus states, 95% of Clinton’s wins were primary states.

Clinton also won the popular vote.

Democrats are now beginning to say that the Caucuses were rife with voter fraud.

Some Democrat officials say that they have 'Proof' that caucus voters in many areas were paid $100 each to vote for Obama.

Some Democrat officials say that they have 'Proof' that caucus voters in many areas were given 'IPODS' and gift certificates to vote for Obama.


ExWyo vs Left Angle
My money is on you ExWyo when you guys square off over the mensa test! I'll have to take some very short odds because I doubt Left Angle will have many backers!

ex wyomingite: lets cut the crap...
look you and I have had many civil discussions without all the bs. so let's keep it that way.
I repsect your opinion though i dont neccessarity agree with it.

so I regress (that intelligent enough for you)lol

you said of my post above you were tired of my "crap"..what i stated isnt crap its the truth. so what i am asking you once again is:

do you believe that there are whites here in the u.s. that will under no circumstances vote for a person of color or a female to be potus and if yes, do you think it will be a factor in determining who will be the next potus?

ex-Wyomingite
You can not hold an intelligent discussion with Left Angle. Be it a comprehension problem or idiocy he will never respond to what you wrote, just what he believes you think. I refuse to even read his tripe any more.

Left to Dangle
To quote a moron Left Angle stated that whites who vote against BO are divided into two classes both of equal proportions (I think that means 50-50) those who don't like his politics and those who hate his skin color.

Half of the those whites voting against BO are racists? Kind of reminds one of a central tenets of BO's old church. You know the one about blacks being captives in an America designed to kill and imprison them! Yeah white America is the most racist cesspool on the face of the earth.

Left angle has swallowed a full load of not only of BO but of the BS put out by Trinity United Church of Christ. Left Angle says "Amen" when Rev oh so Wrong screames "God D@mn the USofKKK!"

mc to obama: you can not pass
I think propaganda that helps terror is not serious anymore as a formal source, polls, numbers, medianoise, adverti$ing as "final solution"...
Everyting drivebymedia have done is makeup bho relation to MAR XISTS, CO MU NISTS, WI FE MEGACO MU NIST, BLAKPOWER CHURCHES, TE RROR GROUPS, REZ CO, HA MAS, CU BA, CHA VEZ (and any single anti-USA on the world) (gotcha) terror logistic agent, half-black, half-crhistian, half-muslim,half-marxist, half-comunist, half-message...
and without a teleprompter or "questions filtered, shows a terrible face of what is being blinded by the light...
the true...
against a real American heroe?, against Mitt Romney?, against America?, against the world?, against God?

COLOSSUS VP PICKS

...OBAMA ...GOV. KAINE

...MCCAIN ...MITT ROMNEY

....Accuracy dependent on logic ...no allowances made for human non-rational or emotional selections .....COLOSSUS

Is Barack Obama a Citizen of U.S.A.?
I'd really like to see Barack Obama's Birth Certificate. The REAL ONE, not the photoshop printed one. I want to see a Birth Certificate with an Hawaiian State Seal Stamped on it. I hope he can provide one soon or your candidate may go to Jail and have to pay back all of his campaign funds to all the disillusioned fools who gave it to him. He's a cheat and a liar and if you vote for him you're a fool also.

Obama's "new" clothes
In spite of the growing evidence of Barack Obama's inexperience, in any form,, in any area, be it business, economics, major accomplishments or holding a governing political office, he has a better than even chance of winning in November. The question then becomes: "now what?"

While the deeply entranced Obamatons will refuse to admit it, for the still thinking population, it is obvious that Barack Obama is nothing more than an actor and he does poorly when he has to improvise without the aid of a script. Should Obama win the election, he will not have the benefit of running to his stage hands for his lines when faced with national or international crisis.

Yes, Barack Obama may well indeed win the privilege of donning the regal robes of the presidency. What will be revealed immediately however, is that the term "empty suit" will prove to be a gross understatement.


exwyomingite...
I asked you a simple question and you refused to answer it.

are there not millions of whites in the u.s. who simply will not vote for a person of color
or a female to be POTUS?

YES OR NO?

BTW:

If anyone is posting canned rnc playbook taking points, IT YOU. there isnt an original thought in anything you post. you remind me of a parrot although one trained by rnc

"EMPTY SUIT-NO SUBSTANCE SWAAK"!!!


...at any rate you respond to darn near everything I post, so it must of some interest to you what I'm saying. your contradicting yourself and get rid of the condescending tone. you are not smarter than me by any measure.


Goldberg rules!
Hilarious! Even Johnny Mac would say this was one of your best, MY FRIEND.

Democrat Convention
Racism is without scientific validity. Racism is merely a social action or government policy based on such assumed differences.

Can any race of people who may consider themselves superior to another race be automatically prejudicial against another race of people? Surely there is one who is not and will contradict?

Individuals who are independent and will contradict this thought could be considered prejudiced. I believe ALL of us are prejudiced about something or somebody. I surely am! We must prejudge everything and everybody or follow someone blindly into political Socialism and corruption.

"Don't you conservatives understand? Democrats care about the little guy. They're on the side of the proletariat - I mean workers - and as Obama has so eloquently put it, if the workers would only stop clinging to their silly sky god and guns, they'd understand that."

I have a suggestion for Obama and for the people who think he is "cool", he is "The One", the "Messiah", "citizen of the world" and everything else under the sun that will make him the best president for the worker!

Obama can announce at the Democrat convention in Denver, CO that he is forming another political party, the "Socialist party of America" and become the nominee for president.

His announcement will solve the dilemma of the Democrats who are not comfortable with his Marxist and Muslim background and really do not want to be labeled 'racist' (what a hoot!) if they do not vote for him. (Clinton voters?)

The Democrats who do not want to give the taxpayers money to the folks who have never earned a paycheck can take back their party with Senator Clinton as their nominee for president at the convention.

obama's race doesn't matter
obama, without his teleprompter, is a blithering idiot.

i was considering voting for him until I actually heard him. He is worse than some of the high school students running for class president!

I am a minority, and Obama is an example of affirmative action gone awry. He isn't brilliant. Listen to him! Read his published works (not much there if anything). Read Mrs Obama's thesis (an embarrassment!).

I am always amazed at why do-nothing, know-nothings run for office and people are actually convinced that these people have the answers.

Sun the 1: learn to read.
I made no such assertion. I simply stated a FACT which most TH regulars are in denial about. that being that there are millions of whites who will simply NOT VOTE FOR A PERSON OF COLOR OR A WOMAN TO BE POTUS. I believe what Mr. Zogby says it the truth, without a doubt but I wouldnt called those "racial attitudes" to be racist, I'd call them Inherent.

whether those votes cancel out each other is your opinion because the election hasnt taken place yet and we dont know the results.

secondly obama hasnt lost anything. it's very early in this race and I think for a newcomer he is doing a excellent job and is very well positioned to win this election hands down.

good luck to you repubs/cons and mccain..

btw: I thought you repubs/cons detested mccain, so your voting more against obama than for mccain, yes or no?

Left Angle and Racism
Throwing down the race card no longer trumps our voices. We will no longer be cowed because we are called racist, by a bunch of Marxists who refuse to debate the finer points of an argument without resorting to name-calling, i.e., racist, sexist, homophobic, NAZI, fundamental, Christian extremist. We have learned these are the terms used by overly sensitive liberals having a tantrum because they can't face facts that other people have strongly held beliefs different than theirs. The sting of these terms is gone, and the only voters who showed racist tendencies this year were during the Democrat Primaries. So, if you continue associating with the party of slavery, Jim Crow, and the KKK it is you who have aligned yourself with racism.

Cat's Meow #7
Brilliant.

Sen. Obama needs to be our next president - he must be. His election will be the final penance we have to pay for slavery and Jim Crow - the ultimate act of affirmative action.

Then we can tell the race-mongering victicrats to shut up and get their act together.

Another FACT About Obama and Racism
Very few "conservatives" are going to vote for Obama unless it is because of his skin color, which means that they will be voting based on their own racism.

This being the case, if Obama loses because of people voting against him due to his skin color, it will be white liberals who voted against him, and it will be their racism that cost him the election.

For 50 years, liberals and Democrats have been crowing about how they are the party who cares about blacks, but now that they have the opportunity to put their votes where their mouths are, they show up at a conservative web site to whine about how whites won't support Obama and try to make it a case of racist conservatives. Sorry guys, Obama's skin color means nothing to me. It's his politics and his personality I take issue with.

Vic is so right.
His 2:39 am post nailed it. Nuff said.

Borat Soetoro has a fan base!
Jonah Goldberg is way too kind with Borat Soetoro - his lack of qualifications (moral & otherwise) for the pay grade he's ogling is hilarious (unless we factor in the medieval component of this affair - an Opoossum dropping a US seal in front of him while jogging in Indonesia, holy men - reverend Wright, Phleger - pointing him as the chosen one, etc. etc. - solid stuf, man, solid stufff!)
And here comes an equally important element of this unseemly charade - how, despite these and other obvious disqualifying elements for Borat Soetoro, can such a large amount of US population seriously consider him a viable choice for the presidential office? I don't think we should giggle anymore when hearing about buffoonish electoral choices elsewhere, ridiculous figures who make it in who knows what Borat realm - well, you know, it's the post-colonial thing, also the people there always like figures of authority wearing many golden chains and sun glasses, etc.
Increasing anomiea, acculturalisation, increasing lack of national identity, superficiality, multicutural hipness, indifference towards the trajectory of this country, the internet which corrodes the national cohesiveness - many explanations can be offered for this state of affairs.
However, whatever the explanations are, the consequence of this situation is simple - believe it or not, half of the country clearly indentify with Borat, and it could well be that we (god forbid!) we'll end with Borat as president - probably America deserves this.

Leftangle
You assert that there are more whites who won't vote for a black than will. Not sure which orifice you pulled that out of, but it's your assertion, not a fact.

The number of whites who won't vote for a black guy (and there are some) will be more than cancelled out by the people (black and white by the way) who will vote for him BECAUSE he's black.
The point is, you can't generalize that to the whole electorate.

Listen: if only blacks were for the guy, he wouldn't be where he is now. You think the black vote put him there? THink again, hoss.

Surely you know that.

Second, he didn't start losing until people started to get wind of who he IS (isn't might be a better word). Up til then they were lovin him. You think they hadn't noticed his color?
Comne on.

exwyomingite: its the TRUTH...
unglued? surely you jest. I'm just stating a FACT that you dont want to deal with. lol

so youre telling me that there are not millions of whites who simply wont vote for a person of color or a woman to be potus simply based of that?

if your answer is no, you are living in some alternate world that is alien to the U.S.
Is it racist? you tell me..i wouldnt call it
racist, I'd call it INHERENT.

apparently youre getting the idea that m libs/cons think racism is the ONLY reason obama could lose this election. I havent heard a single dem say that. but read the postings above, that is EXACTLY what they are saying.

btw: whats wrong with blacks voting for a fellow black? whites have been voting for fellow whites since the inception of the process in the u.s. maybe they finally have
a different choice.

floridaindependent
Go back to your dictionary and look at elitIST instead. I think that would probably give you a better meaning.

Left Angle Has a Point
There are, undoubtedly, people who will refuse to vote for Obama because he is black. And a lot of them are liberals if you can believe the media reports coming out of NY and California. Then again, there are people who will refuse to vote for McCain because he is white. And most of them are black liberals. There are also people who will refuse to vote for Obama because he is young and inexperienced, just as there are people who will refuse to vote for McCain because he is old and tired.

But the issue is not whether such people exist. The issue is whether enough of them exist to make it clear that, should Obama lose, it will have been because of his race, and not his inexperience, his arrogance, or his out-of-control liberality.

If Obama loses, the Left will ignore the millions of white people who voted for him and put it all down to the racism of whites. In the process, they will continue to undo the progress made toward a truly race-neutral society because they cannot accept that people might honestly differ with their political preferences. But if the GOP was to run a conservative black man like Michael Steele for the Presidency, these same liberal paragons of racial virtue would refuse to vote for him, and they would never accept the claim that it was because he is black.

Sorry guys, but if you can't walk the walk, stop trying to talk the talk. Obama's race is a distant second concern that can only come in to play when one has already gotten past his many other failings.

LA
Those people who don't want Obama as their president because of his race could not influence the outcome without those of us who don't want Obama because of his ideas. I don't recall reading any post that claimed there was absolutely nothing to do with race in this election, only that this will be the excuse if (I hope) Obama loses. The fact that he is a Marxist will not even be mentioned.

I don't really care why someone doesn't vote for Obama, as long as they don't vote for him and do vote McCain. I am not going to pull the level FOR McCain as much as I'm going to pull it AGAINST Obama. I disagree with Big Mick and a few others on this point; I don't think this country can survive four years of Obama.

Left Angle
You may be right. When I lived in Maryland there were a lot of racist. Most of the jokes were about people of color.

Its hard for repubs/cons to admit
I'm just sitting here reading the above responses and shaking my head in disbelief at some of what I'm reading. For repubs/cons to sit there and pretend that racism has absolutely nothing to do with this election is absolutlely preposterous and unbeleivable.
So to follow their logic if Hillary Clinton
had been the dem nominee sexism would have absolutely nothing to do with this election.

You guys are in serious denial about reality and the reality of the situation is that there
are millions of white people in this country who simply will NOT vote for a person of color or a woman to be POTUS. They are spread across the spectrum of repubs, dems and independents. That is simply a FACT AND WHY th regulars have such a hard time admitting that is beyond me.

Senator McCain has made recent gains in the polls to tighten the race. Major pollster John
Zogby explained that the reason for this is a
major movement to his side by uncollege educated lower middle class suburban and rural whites. he also stated the primary reason for this is "racial attitudes".

Yes there are whites who will not vote for Obama because the beleive he is not the best person for the job, but there are equally enough whites who will not vote for him because he is a person of color. THAT IS A FACT.

Oh, and another thing
I hope the press asking the questions have the b*lls to ask Obambi some hard questions about his past associates and how they've shaped his agenda. But I'm not holding my breath.

The Teflon Don
That's what they used to call the mobster John Gotti when he kept beating all of the attempts to prosecute him, until.....it finally caught up with him and he died in prison. Now his son has been indicted. Well, the press has created a Teflon Don of Oblahbla. BUT, Oblahblah will be on his own when the two candidates debate. I can't wait to see Obambi stutter and give his "nuanced" answers and call everything else he doesn't know the first thing about a "distraction". These two gambits seem to be the only thing he has in his bag of tricks. They won't work during a one on one. The debates will be above his "pay grade". Can't wait. The MSM is just signing their own death warrant. I read the other day that the NYT is going broke. Boo hoo. What will the leftists do without ole Pinch setting the agenda?

It's Not Elitism, It's Arrogance
I think we could all put up with a little elitism if the rest of the package didn't include rank arrogance, skin thin enough to see through, and a record of avoiding every tough call possible.

The mistake the Democrats have made is not in having chosen yet another elitist. Every would be president is an elitist, if only in his own mind. Even Jimmy Carter, Michael Dukakis, and Howard Dean think of themselves as your superior, regardless of whether or not you see them that way. The mistake the Democrats keep making is that they keep choosing unbelievably arrogant elitists who don't just think they are better than you; they have to keep telling you so.

Consider: No matter how well intentioned Al Gore seemed, he came across as an uptight, angry man who could not believe that more people were not flocking to his banner. Al was deigning to serve all of us peons, and he still hasn't gotten over the fact that we all said "No thanks" and chose an obvious dimwit who at least has the good grace to know he's a dimwit. John Kerry is such an elitist that the pole up his butt has a pole up its butt. He reported "Ready to Serve" as if we should all get down on our knees and thank him for giving us the time of day. And Bill Clinton? Any honest dictionary would have his picture as the sole definition of the term "arrogant". But unlike Gore, Kerry, and Obama, Bill was smart enough to keep his arrogance under wraps until after he got elected, playing the "Aw shucks" card to the hilt every time he got caught. Then again, Bill also benefited from going up against two of the lamest candidates ever to grace a major party ballot.

Obama's problem isn't that he thinks he's better than us. His problem is that he keeps telling us he is, but his words and actions don't jibe with what he's saying.

floridaindependent
You're right the author should have used the word "snob". A couple of days ago a reporter asked him who his Vice President would be. Senator Obama turned with a smile on his face and said in a condescending way, " How long did it take for you to think that up"?
Buy the way did you vote in the Florida Democrat primaries?

Vote McCain save US
UTOPIA NOW! UTOPIA NOW this is Omorlocks message too his flock of wide eyed ObamElois.

Forget working hard and individual responsibility WE (the collective mass of 0’s) will tax our way into the future.

It’s not fair that you had the drive to make something of yourself, while I wallow in my own self pity.

Liberals are self loathing people who project their inadequacies onto the world around them. They lack the ability too turn that high intellect they always claim to have on themselves.

Most are just afraid of what resides within them, only a fool has “no imagination for evil” if you ignore your own human nature how will you see it in others.

Utopia is forever away, it requires individuals to look within find God (I believe its God) or whatever you want to call him/it, become a whole person/human.

“You can only help those who want to help themselves” Helping yourself doesn’t mean taxing us into a false Marxist utopia.

Just Words?
According to the Random House dictionary, the word elite means "the choice of best of a group, class, or the like". At this point, aren't both Obama and McCain considered the "elite" of their party?


Democrats
could care less about "we the people" - they prove this over and over again. They have now forced a candidate upon this country who is totally unvetted, inexperienced, with troublesome personal history. They want this man as they see him as the quickest way to turn the United States of America into a socilaistic govenment with reduced military strength pandering to every far left organization on the face of the earth. Hopefully the silent majority is ready to cast their ballot for John McCain as he is exactly what this country needs here and now - the message would be loud and clear.

Irresponsible
The Dems nominating Obama (assuming it actually happens) is one of the most irresponsible acts on their part ever, and that's saying a lot. By promoting an unvetted, incompetent black man (let's face it, folks -- he selected his black half for self-identification) and getting blacks in this country all jacked up at the possibility of the O-man's election, they have created a situation in which blacks are going to be disbelieving and angry when he loses. It will be attributed to intractable white racism, rather than its real cause: that an complete incompetent, phony baloney, stealth Marxist puppet boy-man was put forth. I hope self-loathing liberal whites who pushed this guy on us pause long enough while blacks are rioting and burning down our cities and carrying on endlessly in November in the MSM to reflect with some measure of self-honesty on the fact that the blame lies squarely on them.

Obama say...
...Abort Here. Abort Now. Care Less.

Trouble getting the word out
Sen. Obama hides behind a carefully designed and erected facade of charisma. Rarely do the voters get a peek behind it. When they do, they see an elite, effete ivory tower academic who is just as clueless, unaccomplished and Marxist as the rest of them. Sen. McCain must tear that facade down.

Obama Losing
I, too, have wondered how the Democrats/Liberals will react when Obama loses. If it is a tight race, voting machines come into play again. If is it a landslide, voter fraud will be examined as this just couldn't be possible.

What about blacks? I don't believe they will take this without some form of massive protest. Will these be like what happened after the Rodney King verdict? Most likely they will be worse.

Just imagine how
well the Republicans wold be doing if they had a real candidate. It would be a blowout.

Decisions
In December 1966, when John McCain requested his first combat assignment in Vietnam, Barack Obama turned 5 years old and was enjoying the freedoms a child should enjoy.

As Obama turned 7, McCain had survived a burning jet fire on the USS Forrestal and had just flown his 23rd bombing mission over communist North Vietnam.

In 1973, as Obama reached age 12, McCain was finally released from a prisoner-of-war camp in the Hanoi Hilton.

At age 15, when Obama was still in high school, McCain became the commanding officer of a Naval Training Squadron in Florida. He turned a poorly managed military unit into a distinguished, combat-ready team.

When Obama reached the legal age of 21 and was experimenting with pot and cocaine, McCain declined an admiral promotion and ran for and was elected to Congress.

By 1987, Obama was a young man of 25 and McCain had assumed the office of senator from Arizona (after a successful four-year tour in the U.S. House of Representatives).

At age 36, Obama looked on as Sen. McCain was named one of Time magazine’s 25 most influential people in America.

Whom do we choose as our next leader? Do we choose a man with proven military and political achievements, or a man with little experience other than a stint as a community leader and junior senator? Decisions, decisions!

WHY Liberals are always RIGHT:

LIKE obama, they are experts at:
fabrication
distortion
exaggeration
and lying about their lies

THEY MAKE IT UP:::
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