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Thursday, June 18, 2009
Cliff May :: Townhall.com Columnist
How to Crush Debate
by Cliff May
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Following the shootings of a Kansas abortion doctor and a guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, two prominent New York Times columnists, Paul Krugman and Frank Rich, spoke out forcefully against those in the media who spout lies and, possibly, incite violence.

There are "lunatics" out there, Krugman wrote, and "media organizations wind up such people at their, and our, peril." Rich warned of "toxic rhetoric" and "media demagogues," fueling a rage that "could spiral out of control."

So imagine my shock to see on The New Times website an item saying: "Cliff May argued that torture is justified against Muslims because they're Muslim."

What does that even mean? That I think innocent Muslims should have their fingernails pulled out? There was not a quote or fact to back up this inflammatory allegation against me. There were no links to articles I've written or television and radio shows on which I've appeared. Why would the Times attribute to me such an outrageous opinion -- without even attempting to verify it? Why would they not at least call me and ask whether I'd care to deny the charge?

To be fair, this was in a Times feature called "The Opinionator: A Gathering of Opinion From Around the Web," and this particular opinion had been gathered from Adam Serwer, writing in the American Prospect, which describes itself as "an authoritative magazine of liberal ideas."

But to continue to be fair, the Times is the Times. Years ago, when I worked at the Times - as a reporter, Washington correspondent, foreign correspondent and editor - it was understood by everyone from the lowliest interns to the loftiest editors that a serious newspaper cannot relinquish responsibility for what it puts into print simply by saying: "Whoops, sorry, we lifted that from another publication."

I immediately wrote a note to the Times' ombudsman. He has not, so far, bothered to reply.

Adam Serwer's piece, on the American Prospect's blog, intended to take up the same theme as had Krugman and Rich. He started off by asserting that there has been a "startling trend of right-wing violence recently" but that such incidents are generally regarded as "the acts of deranged individuals rather than of groups because they are white men." This somehow leads to the description of my views noted above. His piece concluded with the question: "How much of the call for ‘extraordinary measures' in fighting terrorism has to do with the unique challenges of fighting global terrorism, and how much of it has to do with an irrational, orientalist fear of all things Arab and Muslim?

In the considered opinion of the American Prospect, that would be me: an irrational, orientialist, fearful of all things Arab and Muslim.

I wrote a note to Mark Schmitt, the American Prospect's executive editor, pointing out that I have never said anything that could remotely justify the views ascribed to me. I added that I have worked closely with Muslims - not least those in my own organization (a think tank focusing on terrorism) since it was created almost 8 years ago, just after the attacks of 9/11. Coincidently, I had spent the past few days hosting a conference attended by at least half a dozen Muslims including ambassadors from two Muslim-majority countries. And years ago, as a journalist, I reported from many Muslim-majority countries. (I did not say that some of my best friends are Muslim.) Why, I asked Schmitt, "would your magazine print something like this about me?" I asked, too: "Are you oblivious to the possibility that telling such a lie will incite some crazy to attack me or my family?"

He replied: "We (and the Times) should have provided a link, but of course you know it was a reference to your much-discussed written comments on The Corner of April 24."

I did not, but I looked up that post on The Corner and found that I had explicitly written that I oppose torture. I had thought to add, however, that I understood there would be those who will label as "pro-torture" anyone who dares argue that there "may be methods of interrogation that are unpleasant but fall short of torture." Continued...

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Clifford D. May is the President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

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As expected
And, Mr. May, in reading your article we can see that you have apologized and taken the defensive by insisting several times how you have befriended and associated with Muslims in the past. Another poster had it right when he said that we shouldn't even respond to their lies and exaggerations. Can you now say that you won't think twice about your statements regarding Muslims or Islamists?

Magazine of Authoritarian Liberal Ideas
It requires the uncompromised power of The State to impose liberal ideas, otherwise many would resist them in favor of their own enlightened self interests. You know, liberty. The right to prioritize your own agenda over others imposed upon you. Very personal.

This shows how libs would deal with dissent. Ah, yes, dissent, the highest form of patriotism, T.Jefferson, or Howard Zinn, or Saul Alinsky. Doubt Jefferson would have ever said such a daft thing.
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