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Thursday, April 23, 2009
Cliff May :: Townhall.com Columnist
Shock Therapy
by Cliff May
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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was the mastermind behind the terrorist atrocities of Sept. 11, 2001. If U.S. intelligence operatives had spotted him in a remote area of Pakistan, and killed him with a Predator missile, most people would have said: "That's justice."

Instead, of course, KSM was captured in an urban area of Pakistan by U.S. intelligence operatives who then interrogated him -- including through use of the technique known as waterboarding -- thereby leaving him alive and eliciting from him information about other terrorist plots in which innocent Americans had been targeted. Why are so many people insisting that's an injustice, a scandal and a crime for which intelligence operatives and former government officials ought to be prosecuted?

During a time of asymmetrical war, such questions deserve serious debate. But the current administration doesn't appear to have the patience and much of the mainstream media don't seem to have the interest.

President Obama ordered a review of "enhanced interrogation techniques" (EITs) to determine which he would -- and would not -- authorize. Presumably, he'd want to know which techniques are (A) effective, and (B) not so brutal as to rise to the level of torture. But the President's decision to release -- against the advice of his CIA director and four former CIA directors -- top secret Justice Department memos on the interrogation program have rendered that study moot.

On the same day those memos were released, Obama's national intelligence director, Admiral Dennis Blair, told colleagues in a private memo that the now banned EITs did indeed "produce significant information that helped the nation in its struggle with terrorists."

Over the weekend, the Washington Post ran a front-page piece on "ethicists" alleging that psychologists and physicians who supervised CIA interrogations "broke the law and shame the bedrock ethical traditions of medicine and psychology."

Left unexamined was the likelihood that these health professionals had been tasked with ensuring that interrogations did not cross reasonable legal, medical and ethical boundaries, did not reach the point that they would "shock the conscience" which, as former CIA Director Michael Hayden told Fox News' Chris Wallace, is the "American standard" for torture. Hayden added: "You have to know the totality of circumstances in which something takes place before you can judge whether or not it shocks the conscience."

Among the released memos is one from then-Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee emphasizing that waterboarding "will be stopped if deemed medically necessary to prevent severe mental or physical harm." Another memo makes clear that supervising physicians were empowered to stop interrogations "if in their professional judgment the detainee may suffer severe physical or mental pain or suffering." What's severe? Again, circumstances matter and judgments may differ. Attempting to criminalize such differences is appallingly unethical -- not least when done by people who call themselves "ethicists." Continued...

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Clifford D. May is the President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

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Bush must be a sadist?!
The raging debate centers around two issues:
Did the enhanced questioning constitute a torture, and whether this type of questioning worked. The first is a matter of debate between two differing points of view, which have polarized the two sides as no other issue, not even the matter of abortion.

With respect to the effectiveness of such questioning, that is a matter of cold facts. It either provided us with additional useful information or it didn't. Though there is a great deal of speculation, suggesting that such methods produced nothing, are useless, or even counterproductive, the cold facts indicate that there was indeed a lot of actionable intelligence gained that way.

If these methods were not expected to produce anything of value, than, the people involved were not trying to save us from further carnage, but rather sought some sort of sadistic retribution against the terrorists. In other words, the right, and especially anyone associated with GWB must not be allowed the slightest benefit of doubt - they are sadists.

To err is human. In case of national security I would expect that our government would choose to err on the side of safety. To have acted otherwise would have been irresponsible in the extreme.

Neil
Your way of thinking dooms you, which I personally feel you have every right to do. Leaders of groups of people (a nation of 300+ millions) need to avert danger for their constituents. Morality and international agreements don't supersede the right of a leader to safeguard those who give him his office and trust him with their lives. Obviously you are dead wrong. You can’t fight a man with a deadly intent with humane compassion because YOU are dead! What’s so hard to understand about that? You can go ahead and scream your hate for the Bush administration, and come up with all kinds of theorems, but in practice, I am glad that it was not one of you (even if you appear to represent the majority), who made decisions over me and my family’s life these past seven years.
Your last paragraphs, make you the epitome of a traitor. Airing "dirty laundry" makes for a superpower? Where? In the land of Oz, not in the real world! Get your head out of where-ever you stuck it, and smell reality!
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