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Thursday, January 31, 2008
Cliff May :: Townhall.com Columnist
Energetic Economics: An Alternative to the Usual Stimulus Packages
by Cliff May
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It’s become a ritual: The economy grows sluggish and politicians rush to “do something” about it. What they do almost never has a beneficial economic impact, as any reputable economist will tell you.

But what if lawmakers could guarantee that the price you pay to fill the tank of your car will go down, not up, in the years ahead? What if they could launch a new industry that creates more jobs for more Americans? What if this would produce environmental benefits, too? Would that not send a message to the markets? And would that not represent the kind of change so many politicians have been promising?

Here’s the deal: Everyone who is not an economic illiterate knows that competition leads to lower prices. But there is no competitive market in transportation fuels. In most parts of the country, you can buy gasoline or you can buy gasoline. And most cars can run on gasoline or gasoline.

It doesn’t have to be that way. There are alternative fuels. And there are automobiles built to burn them. But there is a chicken-and-egg dilemma: Why buy a car that can use alternative fuels if those fuels are not readily available at a local service station? Why devote a pump at a local service station to alternative fuels if there are few customers asking for them?

Elected officials could solve this problem with a stroke of the pen. An “open standards” fuel law would require that all new cars sold in the United States be Flexible Fuel Vehicles – able to run not just on gasoline, but also on a variety of alcohol-based fuels.

A car that is flexible fuel capable costs only about $100 more. But if you want to make this transition cost-neutral for the automobile companies, consider a tax break to reward them for making the transition as quickly as possible.

American companies would benefit most – they are ahead of the pack in their development of flexible fuel technologies. (For example, check out www.chevy.com to see how many Flexible Fuel Vehicles already are being manufactured by Chevrolet.)

Why not a tax break, too, for anyone who buys a new Flexible Fuel Vehicle? If people took advantage of the offer, that would energize the economy while also producing environmental benefits because new cars run cleaner than old cars and because ethanol – the most common alcohol fuel – burns cleaner than gasoline.

Right now, most American ethanol is made from corn but it can be made from just about any starchy crop: sugar cane (already widely used in Brazil), yams and sweet potatoes, to name just a few. And any kind of biomass, including wild grasses, crop residues, fallen leaves and weeds that clog rivers can be used to make methanol, as can urban trash and coal – two commodities the U.S. possesses in abundance.

That would be just the start: Americans are innovators and they would come up with a wealth of new ideas. Like what? How about funneling unwanted carbon dioxide into reservoirs covered with algae that would feed on the carbon dioxide (as all plants do), then turning the algae into alcohol fuel? Is that feasible? That’s what entrepreneurs get paid the big bucks to figure out.

Before long, billions of dollars that we are now sending overseas could be going into the pockets of Americans – farmers, auto workers, alternative fuel producers and investors.

With a variety of fuels competing, the cost of fuel – including gasoline -- would go down. The OPEC cartel would no long decide how much you pay to drive your car. A free market would make the decision – as it should.

In 1998, Saudi oil export revenues were $32 billion. Shortly after 9/11/01 they almost doubled to $63 billion. In 2006 they reached $203 billion – and with oil now near $100 a barrel they are still climbing. But fuel competition can reduce this unprecedented transfer of wealth from American, European and Japanese families to Arab sheiks, Iranian mullahs, Hugo Chavez and Vladimir Putin.

As demand rises from a growing international fleet of Flexible Fuel Vehicles -- because the American standard would soon become the global standard -- Third World farmers could rise from poverty by growing crops for fuel and for export.

Memo to candidates promising “change”: What change would be more significant than to energize the U.S. economy, create new jobs, encourage innovation, provide consumer choice at the pump, clean the air, reduce our dependence on foreign oil, protect national security and provide useful assistance to Africa’s poor?

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Clifford D. May is the President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

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Cliff May
writes, "How about funneling unwanted carbon dioxide into reservoirs covered with algae that would feed on the carbon dioxide (as all plants do), then turning the algae into alcohol fuel? Is that feasible? That’s what entrepreneurs get paid the big bucks to figure out."

Why don't you become an entrepreneur and do this and make the big bucks? After reading this statement, I had to check your bio. Yep, too many years at the NYT. I suspected as much.

Fact: Entrepreneurs get paid diddly squat. They do not work for wages. They take risks. Some pan out and may, in fact, earn them some so-called big bucks and, others fall flat and cost them big bucks.

You take the liberal view that if government simply creates an incentive, the market will rush to satisfy it. The market will only do so if a profit can be made with the project. For you to simply assume that great american innovators would do this is the height of hubris.

Your entire idea is dependent on whether or not it would be profitable to do something that also might help the environment and lessen dependence on foreign sources of fuel. You like the latter two ideas, so you assume the former. Again, it YOU think it profitable, there is absolutely nothing to prevent you from forming a company and seeking investors.

Good idea but no more big government
"An “open standards” fuel law would require that all new cars sold in the United States be Flexible Fuel Vehicles – able to run not just on gasoline, but also on a variety of alcohol-based fuels."

I agree that a free market, where the government does not limit companies in coming up with new types of fuel and auto companies are free to develop as they see fit, is the answer.

However, using government force to stir up free market activity is NOT the answer. No laws should be made forcing auto manufacturers to make a certain type of automobile. Consumers should drive demand for products and services, not government and/or corporations.

How about we remove all the market regulations that hurt innovation? Allow existing companies and new entrepreneurs the ability to come up with alternative energy ideas as consumers demand it.

We don't need more government intervention in the marketplace to make anything better. All government can do is make things worse.

Cliff
If you believe that buying oil from other countries is bad then there is only one fair way to change this. Lobby the government to impose a harsh tax on gasoline and then let the market, the entreprenuers, find the best alternative fuel source. You see, price determines whether or not people will use a substitute. There is plenty of competition in the gasoline market. What you propose is that a competitor to gasoline be found. Price is the only thing that will drive this. Competition within an industry and substitute products from another industry are different things. Although I like apples, I may start eating more oranges if the price of apples gets too high. That does not mean the apple market is uncompetitive.

2 ENERGETIC GROWTH SOLUTIONS
While Juan "Shamnesty" McCain and Mitt "the Chinese Capitalist" Romney are fighting over timetables and calling each other names, one candidate has proposed TWO VERY ENERGETIC ECONOMIC GROWTH PROPOSALS:

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Blogs.View&Blog_id= 1178

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_i d=29



The Invisible Hand of Market
I totally agree with the assertion that market works better than economic planning and that market forces and price signals encourage entrepreneurs do be creative and ready to take risks. Furthermore, I am VERY familiar with the ethanol and other biofuels file.

This is exactly why I am asking this crucial question: Why hasn't the Market's Invisible Hand produced the results your article is advocating for? Why is it that, in order for this to happen, you are advocating for government intervention such as regulation and tax returns? Why is it that, with petroleum at 100$/barrel, an ailing car industry, consumer demand for cheaper and cleaner products, farmers seeking alternative markets and a citizenry increasingly concerned with global warming, the Invisible Hand does not produce the said entrepreneurs America is supposed to have an abundance of? My take on it, based on economic data, is that the Invisible Hand is working and it tells people that it isn't economical and profitable yet, to move toward ethanol unless you are ready to pour massive subsidies of the kind corn-ethanol receives while preventing Brazilian sugarcane-based ethanol to access your market by imposing prohibitive tariffs. In other words, you need to cover the Invisible Hand of Market with a pair of cosy government knitted mitts if you want biofuels to massively enter the market at the moment. Furthermore, growing corn and transforming it into ethanol takes so much fuel (machinery, fertilizers, herbicides, etc.) that the environmental benefits are slim if not nil. Cellulosic biofuels from leaves and weeds is probably the key but technology is not entirely at pace, yet. As for government intervention, one that might actually work, could be a major project in the spirit of the Manhattan and Apollo projects that, in partnership with the private sector, would aim at a major overhaul of the entire energy sector, but that's not the venue the Energy Act and Cheney have obviously chosen to take.

One star for stupid
I don’t know what planet you have been on for the last few years Cliff, but cars already must be able to run on alcohol. I also have some more news for you, alcohol is alcohol. It doesn’t matter what it is made from.

I have a lot better idea for you since you seem to be such a big government mandating loon. How about the government get out of the fuel business, get out of the alcohol business, and get out of MY business and leave us alone. Or as Ronald said a long time ago, government can’t solve the problem because government is the problem.

Better Idea
How about a better idea? Get the government to approve drilling in ANWR and off of our coasts - and forget about all legistlation and government meddling in the free market like several others have already mentioned. Limited government is the key to a successful market.

NEWS FLASH
India and China have decided to come down on the other side of this equation.They have decided to build cars, that get greater mileage.This article has so many intents,that it is difficulty for me to assign priority.Are we trying to create new industry or are we trying to reduce our dependency on foreign OIL.A 60 mile per gallon car can reduce our dependency to ZERO.But then we cannot anger the Oil cartel.Please read Political APPEASEMENT.Biofuels are not free, and there will be a trade off in price levels for any commodity used.Have you noticed the price of CORN lately?It appears, that our first order of BUSINESS,is to order our BUSINESS.We must create a single VOICE...

Bravo Cliff
I have been talking about the Flex Fuel capability issue for about three years now. I think that we should tax $200 per car that is not flex fuel capable. Watch how fast they will be adopted.

Vic, you are right that most cars currently can opperate with a marginal alcohol content, but MOST cars warrantys are voided by running flex fuel. This is because the engines components are not rated for the higher combustion temperatures and do not meet emmissions standards when run on flex fuel. They are also inefficient in the use of the fuel.

Now I would normally oppose heavy handed goverment intervention, but I think this just makes sense. A car is an asset that will be around for probably 15 to 20 years and if there is a major shift in that timeframe on fuel standards, those who have cars that can not accept the new fuel standard will be the hardest hit. It is simply a matter of judicious consumer protection.

As far as the unseen hand of the market, the auto industry is somewhat immune as cars have not YET reached commodity status. Some it seems are close but not yet. Try telling Toyota that you want to by a flex fuel vehicle and they will give you a map to the closest dodge dealer. Having said that, you may still want the Toyota.

I think we should tax big government
meddlers for being in violation of the Constitution.

Legislate Ethanol?
How about we get rid of the ridiculous subsidy first which makes E85 seem like such a great idea when in fact it isn't.

Funny
Does anyone else find people like Cliff to be hilarious in a twisted sort of way? I mean, one second he's talking about the free market, and then next he's talking about mandating fuel standards. Which is it, Cliff? You can't have both.

brainoncapitalist
Depends on my mood. One day I find it hilarious and the next day it scares me. With our alreay heavily managed capitalist system, it is understandable how so many people naturally think that one more law will fix it. If they really understood economics they would know that most of the problems they want to fix were caused by government intervention in the first place. I could go on and on about how fuel blending regulations create many smaller less competitive markets for gasoline and impose new costs on the producers or, any number of other government created messes but, it doesn't really matter to guys like Cliff.

One small problem
"Before long, billions of dollars that we are now sending overseas could be going into the pockets of Americans – farmers, auto workers, alternative fuel producers and investors"

*****

It ain't goin' to end up in the pockets of farmers and auto workers. It is going to end up
in the pockets of the already super-rich, unless
something changes big time in the U.S.

I am sick and tired of being ashamed of the U.S.
I am sick and tired of being told that an even freer economy and less government intervention is
all that is standing between us and Valhalla.

I just listened to NPR about an hour ago where
I and the rest of the nation were told about
what is going on at American Airlines. When
big time trouble hit American after 9/11, the
unions were asked to take deep cuts in their pay-
checks to keep American alive. They did.
American was already in trouble, by the way,
before 9/11 because of an over-the -top spending
program. 9/11 almost nailed the coffin shut.
American survived, the management agreed that the company would have gone under if it weren't
for the cooperation of the union. And this past
week they gave themselves multi-million $ bonuses
and the union got a thank you.

This has been repeated over and over and over.
It would be immoral even if management had been
doing one heck of a job before 9/11, but they
weren't. They just decided that they deserved
the raise and the workers did not and they had
the power to make it happen.

Ain't America great.


Thanks, Hitchhiker.
Apparently Cliff falls into the category of people he categorizes as "economic illiterate" and actually knows little about what "any reputable economist will tell you" since he fails to recognize that people only use gasoline because it is the most economical substance.

The libs that masquerade on this website are so easy to spot. The most it takes is two paragraphs.

Corn-based ethanol...
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...does not have an aggregate energy yield/input ratio to make it a feasible alternative to petrochemicals. To make it simple, more energy (fertilizer, irrigation, harvesting, processing, etc.) is put into corn-based ethanol per erg of energy than you secure with the production of gasoline, in spite of the present high prices of crude oil and the costs imposed by NIMBY-limited refinery capacity.

The equation is better with ethanol made from sugar cane (good news for Brazil), but here in America, the sugar manufacturers have a political lock on "Rotarian Socialist" government protectionist measures, especially stratospheric tariffs on foreign sugar and products derived therefrom.

The average consumer has no goddam idea of the exhorbitant price he pays for the sugar he spoons over his cornflakes as the result of this insane government support program. It's the reason why American soft drinks use high-fructose corn syrup instead of cane sugar (and why Coca-Cola bottled outside these United States tastes *BETTER* than the stuff you buy in American stores).

But even with the sugar tariffs rescinded (hear those screams of rage from the sugar manufacturers!), ethanol is a blind alley. High-concentration ethanol is intensely hygroscopic (absorbing water from the atmosphere, making it harder to burn and reducing its volumetric energy yield), and has a greater "carbon footprint" than gasoline per erg of energy derived from that combustion.

Better instead to look into processes like thermal depolymerization, which can efficiently, sanitarily, and cost-effectively convert biomass - such as slaughterhouse offal, waste plastics, and the other garbage incidental to American "consumer society" - into the equivalent of light crude oil.

And who in the world cranks out more garbage than us Americans?

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Bush wants $200 billion in Medicare cuts
How will this play with Americans while Bush and congress is spending 9 billion a month in Iraq?

Politico-

Setting the stage for one last budget battle with the Democratic Congress, President Bush plans to propose $178 billion in long term cuts to Medicare in the fiscal 2009 budget he will unveil on Monday.

A White House official confirmed Thursday that Bush will propose $208 billion in mandatory budget reductions in all, with Medicare cuts taking up the majority of that figure.

READ MORE


http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/bush-wants-200-bil lion-in-medicare-cuts

Oh dear
Not what I expect from a TH columnist.

Biofuels are a favourite of the socialist / liberal / green lobby becuase the wasteful use of food crops to make fuel will raise food prices in the developing world and will contribute to spreading poverty and starvation, most likely killing the poorest people on the planet. This is fine if you are a typical liberal harbouring unspoken racist and imperialist ideals, but not what I would expect of a principled Conservative.

Drill for oil in the ANWAR, build more refineries, turn coal into methanol (which the author suggests) but don't turn food into fuel, it is sheer madness.

Monkeyfish - Not all conversion...
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...of non-petrochemical organic matter to gasoline and other fuels involves the diversion of food crop resources.

Ever hear the story of the neurotic funeral client?

A guy is inordinately concerned with the preservation of his mortal remains, and goes to arrange his funeral. The undertaker goes over the relative sturdiness (and persistance) of various types of caskets and crypts, discussing the virtues of corrosion-resistant steel coffins, concrete crypts, all that stuff.

"No," says the customer. "I want something that will last *FOREVER*."

"Oh," replies the funeral director. "Here, let me show you what we've got in Styrofoam."

The long-running lament among the Watermelons ("green on the outside, red at the core") is that Americans produce too damned much waste that is not either economically or technically feasible to handle with recycling, and to some extent they're right.

Particularly long-chain carbon compounds in a lot of plastics. How much of the trash generated in your own household (particularly from packaging) is composed of plastics that your municipality can't treat as recyclable in their waste handling streams?

Under the sorts of pressure and heat used in thermal depolymerization, however, *ANY* long-chain polymers of hydrogen, oxygen, and carbon can be decomposed into short-chain petroleum hydrocarbons with a maximum length of around 18 carbons.

We don't have to starve Mexican peasants by jacking up world corn prices to produce fuel ethanol. We can raid our own landfills and exploit our own industrial and household trash streams instead.

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ModMark - you can Wiki up...
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...a fairly good article (well, it was fairly good when last I looked at the Web site; ghod knows what's happened to it in the last 12 hours) on thermal depolymerization simply by entering the words.

Otherwise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization

There should be plenty of citations and external links from there.

(Kudos to columnist and novelist L. Neil Smith for first drawing my attention to the technology in his online column for *The Libertarian Enterprise*.)

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ModMark - returning to L. Neil Smith
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...I find the following:

http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2007/tle449-20071230-02.html

In which he states:

"There are thousands of years worth of proven oil, gas, and coal reserves beneath the soil of the United States. Yet they have been rendered unreachable by laws, regulations, unions, pressure groups, and other miscreant factors that shouldn't have anything to do with it.

"(Environmentalists, who not-so-secretly loathe themselves and their own species and yearn for a mass die-off of humanity, should be told that they are perfectly free to go live in mud hut and croak, decades early, of some disease nobody's heard of for 500 years, but they will be denied the power to force that kind of life on anybody else.)

"And, of course, much of the apparent escalation of the price of petroleum actually reflects a steep decline in the value of the US dollar. Since Pinky and the Brain took over, it's fallen to the price of a bus token, and it takes a lot of bus tokens to buy a barrel of oil."

Gee, sounds a lot like something Ron Paul might say.

Sorry to keep up with the "Carthago delenda est" messaging, but if you want a GOP that advocates sane and economically sound energy policies, you'd better get used to the fact that you're only going to hear it from those of us who also advocate constitutional rule of law and monetary policy starkly different from the "stimulus package" bullpuckey both Romney and McCain are bleating.

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ModMark - Getting govt *OUT*...
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...of the calculations (as Smith recommends in the article I'd cited and from which I'd quoted) would enable market factors - as opposed to the intrinsically corrupt "influence peddling" machinations of politicians and their corporate/special interest puppeteers - to determine whether capital investment in *ANY* energy technology was economically (including environmentally) appropriate.

What seems to escape the attention even of otherwise intelligent conservatives (fuhgeddabout Democrats, "Liberals," and other socialist scumbuckets) is that there is *NOTHING* "free market" about anything that involves the heavy hand of government imposing either incentives *OR* penalties upon any kind of technology.

There's a reason why sane economic policy is necessarily laissez-faire.

Only economic activity free of any "stimulus" or restraint other than those of enlightened self-interest ("greed," if you will) can operate responsively and robustly, delivering to the consumer those goods and services most likely to have positive impacts on both aggregate and individual quality of life.

The free market (pejoritavely labeled "capitalism" by Marx and Engels more than a century ago) works well only to the extent that it's free of *GOVERNMENT*.

Government regulation is the bitter and implacable enemy of efficiency and ingenuity - indeed, it's the enemy of the economy as a whole.

And if "It's the economy, stupid," then the *LAST* kinds of people you want in the White House are Pointy-Haired Boss clowns like Hillary, Obama, McCain, or Romney.

Yet again (as ever) we need Ron Paul.

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ModMark - Seems to be a dialogue...
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...here. Nobody else is posting on this thread.

You ask "will true laissez-faire work?"

It always has. In the petrochemicals sector of the national and the world economy, as in every other area of productive endeavor. It has taken government intervention - first in the form of the Texas Railroad Commission used to cartelize the oil patch in the Lone Star State, then within national boundaries, and finally with OPEC - in order to ensure high oil prices and thereby the thorough gouging of the consumer.

Government works to preserve the profits of the politically influential. The market works to serve the consumer.

Democrat (and Republican) political propaganda to the contrary, that's the way thing have always worked, whether the government in question is democratic, republican, oligarchic, or monarchic.

While you're educating yourself on the matter, read Frederic Bastiat's stuff, all of which is available online, and most of which is short and accessible to the non-economist.

And read Smith's column (linked above). The probable price of light crude equivalant produced with thermal depolymerization is probably going to wind up more like $8 to $10 (even using the Federal Reserve Note certificates of debauchment as counters), with so much room for profit - and for the complete bankruptcy of the Middle Eastern polities blessed by Allah with nothing but oil fields they could never have proven or exploited without the expertise of us infidels - that those of us involved in the process can simply *BUY* whatever sort of U.S. government we want.

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Free Markets? Oh really?
Do you "Free Marketeer's" honestly believe there is no market manipulation of oil and gas supplies? Do you honestly believe we are not currently providing economic incentives to our domestic oil and gas producers?
If you answer no do not read further. The ice cream truck is coming around your corner and you need to run out and get a treat.
If you rationally say yes the Saudi's and their OPEC breatheren have been manipulators since 1973 then you may want to read "Energy Victory" by Robert Zubrin. OPEC again enterred the market in the 80's by glutting the world supply of oil, driving down the price per barrel and crushing the growing methanol competition.
For a good debate, without the vitriol, National Review Online has a very good discussion on the use of Flex Fuel Vehicles and transitioning to a METHANOL economy as a practical, achievable within 5 years, using existing technology, alternative to oil.
And before you excoriate me as an Eco-Luddite: 1. I support expanded nuclear energy. 2. I support drilling in ANWAR and on the continentai shelf(although this will only prolong OPEC's power). 3. I do not believe that CO2 is the prime forcing varible in the current warming period.

Addendum to Free Markets? Oh really?
The discussion at NRO online is in the "Planet Gore" section.

fayettebill - Such manipulation...
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...of the market in petrochemicals has been admitted - and condemned - in this discussion. Read L. Neil Smith's article (cited above) or look up the history of the Texas Railroad Commission (the cartelizing state government agency which preceded OPEC and upon whose operational methods the creation and operations of OPEC was based; this goes back considerably earlier than 1973).

As for "economic incentives [provided] to our domestic oil and gas producers," what do you mean "we," white man?

To the extent that government (state or federal) intervenes in the market to provide "economic incentives," these "incentives" do not truly reflect "economic" conditions but rather *POLITICAL* priorities, which run reliably to the detriment of economic functionality and even economic viability.

Government incentives are - designedly and purposefully - undertaken to get market actors to do things that real economic factors would discourage, even to the point of bankruptcy and destruction.

To that extent, such normative (or even dirigiste) "incentives" are pernicious.

Perhaps even describable as criminal.

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