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Thursday, April 12, 2007
Cliff May :: Townhall.com Columnist
Shut up, They Explained
by Cliff May
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I enjoy a good debate as much as the next guy but, increasingly, the next guy doesn't want to argue – he wants to demonize me. He doesn't want to win the debate; he wants to shut it down.

Whether the topic is global warming or Saddam Hussein's links to terrorists, daring to contradict the "consensus" brings hoots and hollers and worse. My most recent experience with such intolerance of diversity of opinion may be instructive.

It began with a very brief item – exactly six sentences -- I wrote on the Corner, a blog hosted by National Review Online. I questioned a talking point that was being asserted by many on the left: that in the last election the voters sent a clear message: "Get out of Iraq!"

I asked: "Is there a shred of evidence for that?" I expected both the Corner's bloggers and readers to offer data both to support and contradict that claim.

Glenn Greenwald, at the online magazine Salon, went on the attack – but what he had to say was oddly non-responsive to my question. To establish that the voters' message in November had been "Get out of Iraq!" would require showing that candidates, particularly in competitive races, had pledged to support what Greenwald calls a "Congressionally compelled withdrawal of troops from Iraq by a date certain."

One also might look at exit polls for a clue as to what was on voters' minds. Were they thinking about Iraq or the Mark Foley, Tom DeLay and Duke Cunningham scandals? Did Katrina play a role? And of those voters for whom Iraq was the key issue, how many were protesting mismanagement of the war in general and how many were signaling a specific policy preference?

Greenwald tackled none of these issues. Instead, he presented a selection of recent polls – polls having nothing to do with what had motivated voters last year. And he ignored a number of polls offering contradictory evidence. For example, a February IBD/TIPP poll showing 66 percent of respondents believing it "important" that the U.S. succeed in Iraq – including 53 percent of Democrats.

Nevertheless, on this basis, Greenwald instructed his readers to demand I correct my "false claims." How does a question become a claim? Greenwald jumped that hurdle by insisting my question was "rhetorical" – that it was really an assertion and a bald-faced lie.

My inbox was soon filled with emails castigating me in vulgar terms. Few had read what I had actually written. And most hadn't read Greenwald's column carefully. I asked a Mr. Vincent M. Muller, what exactly was the "false statement" to which he was so furiously objecting? He responded: "Almost every public utterance you have ever made requires correction." Continued...

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Clifford D. May is the President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

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au contraire, dollface
I am simply explaining the platform from which Mr. May proselytizes... I trust that he would not disassociate himself from his myriad other involvements... if his message resonates on its merits, so be it.

This is a short, vacuous column suggesting a tempest in a teapot between two Jews with opposite perspectives. It would appear that Cliff May's main message here is that Mr. Greenwald who opposes the neoCON bellicose Zionist agenda (as do most American Jews incidentally) is worthy of condemnation for having had the temerity to suggest that a majority of Americans now both oppose the war in Iraq and think it was a mistake.

Mr. May wants to play semantical games, but there can be NO QUESTION that most Americans would VERY MUCH like to get out of Iraq as soon as feasible with as little pain as possible. We had chosen (per Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and Doug Feith) to engender a mess that we are now sorely burdened, after great expense, to extricate ourselves from. Neither Saddam nor Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 9/11. He and Osama were ENEMIES! The excuses our key advisers gave for the takeout of Iraq quickly rang hollow because they had ulterior motives-- as documented by Michael Isikoff, Joe Klein and other honest chroniclers. Facts are indeed stubborn things-- they have a way of bubbling up despite the best efforts at subterfuge.

dissenter
Just how do you come to the conclusion that the stand is "right wing religious reactionary"? How did religion enter into the fray. You know what, sounds like the typical libral bias to me. How's that??
The left is much,much better at shouting down and name calling cause that's all you have.
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