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Friday, October 13, 2006
Cliff May :: Townhall.com Columnist
Breaking China
by Cliff May
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The great 19th century Russian playwright Anton Chekhov said it was a rule of the theatrical stage: If a loaded gun appears in the first act, that gun will be fired before the curtain falls. It's a rule of the world stage as well: If rogue states such as North Korea and Iran obtain weapons of mass destruction, we must expect those weapons will be used eventually, with all the death and destruction that implies.

For this reason, preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons to extreme and irresponsible regimes has long been a priority for American leaders of both political parties. But an effective strategy for keeping such weapons out of despots' clutches has proved elusive.

In 1994, the Clinton administration sat down with North Korean diplomats and cut a deal: The U.S. would provide billions of dollars worth of aid -- massive amounts of food, fuel oil and even two energy-producing nuclear power plants -- in exchange for a promise from Pyongyang to halt nuclear weapons production.

Clinton trusted but did not verify. The North Korean regime was cheating on the deal “before the ink was dry,” in the words of John Bolton, U.S Ambassador to the U.N.

The Bush administration has tried a different approach: multi-lateral diplomacy, endless talks with no one saying anything very persuasive to Kim Jong Il, the vicious and eccentric dictator who has made North Korea into a living hell for most of its citizens.

So what's next? Many Bush critics are, ironically, calling for Bush to go it alone: to agree to another round of direct talks between American and North Korean diplomats. That begs the question: What would we say in such a tête-à-tête? What would be offered? What would be threatened? Without good answers, negotiations can not be productive.

Sanctions against North Korea -- under the auspices of the United Nations -- is the route the Bush administration is now pursuing. To have teeth, they need to include a strict embargo on all military hardware and authorization both to search ships going to and from North Korea and to seize any illicit cargo discovered. That could prevent North Korea from exporting nuclear weapons to terrorists – a useful outcome. But it doesn't go far enough.

What else is necessary? For China to use its considerable leverage to thwart Kim's ambition to head a nuclear-armed state – something it should have done long ago. To persuade China to do the right thing now will require not just diplomatic efforts but diplomatic pressure.

For example, it should be made clear to China's leaders that if they won't stand in the way of a nuclear North Korea, we won't stand in the way of a nuclear Japan – on the contrary, we will strongly encourage such a development. And perhaps Taiwan, too, might be assisted along this path. Free and democratic countries, we should explain, have the right to deter and defend themselves from dictatorships with hostile intentions and escalating capabilities.

China's leaders also should be informed that Washington will consider what steps might be taken to push the North Korean regime closer to the collapse it so richly deserves. If that happens, Chinese officials will have a huge refugee crisis to cope with, as well as an opportunity to try their hands at “nation-building.”

The 2008 Olympics should be in play. China is hosting the games. They will be less than a smashing success if athletes from the United States and its allies decline to attend.

Lastly, we should remind China that the vibrant economic growth it has experienced in recent years has depended largely on its access to American markets. That, too, will be in jeopardy if China refuses to cooperate. European nations might put principle over profits, too – unlikely but not unimaginable.

On more than one occasion, President Bush has said that the world's worst dictators must not be permitted to acquire the world's most dangerous weapons. On this issue if no other Bush deserves bipartisan support.

It must be demonstrated to China's leaders that Americans are serious about not letting rogue regimes acquire nuclear weapons. Iran's rulers also need to see that there are limits beyond which Americans will not be pushed.

The alternative is for maniacs and tyrants to soon be strutting the world stage waving nuclear weapons at us. Based on Chekhov or just common sense, we should have no illusions about how such dramas end.

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Clifford D. May is the President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

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FYI
I haven't read much about David Scondras: A Boston Massachusetts Democratic former city councilman was arrested in a sting for soliciting sex from someone who he thought was 15 years old. The Republicans are getting beat up about the page scandal, but I'm not hearing much about a 60 year old man saying that 'prejudice exists against men who like to have sex with young boys.' This comes from police taperecording. Anyway I think this story has legs and ought to be explored.

Free Trade & The Korean Trade Off
Unfortunately, our government has been so focused on getting trade doors opened to China that it has simply assumed that the Korean nuke issue would somehow just "go away".
It's similar to the Mexico/border thing. It's all about business, not our national security.


ER
I'm not sure what the hades ER was talking about, above. Was there something in this piece about sex with underage boys?

We should humiliate China
Maybe create something out of nothing and take one of thier ships captive?--they certainly got it coming. We could show their captured men on world wide TV apologizing for violating Japanese waters--they do it almost every single day over in that area. That's how to deal with the Chinese--they don't want to appear humiliated so get to it Bushies!
How about a massively large joint naval war game including Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Great Britain and Australia off the coast of China?
Point is that we have not proven yet how serious nor how far we will go to stop this crap.


@Craig C
No. That's what you use the "Flag as Offensive" icon to report.

Stan 47
So did you flag it?

China holds other cards
If we play hardball with China they will simply dump our paper on the open market and drive interest rates in the US to the point of economic distruction. We have borrowed a trillion dollars from China in the last 6 years and our "can't spend enough" administration could not operate the government without the largess of China.

The other problem is political. Imagine the political damage of Wal Mart raising prices by say 50-100% along with all the other retailers. I personally think that would be great but Bush will not let that happen.

Bush has sold our soul to the Chinese.

Words Have NO Relation to Deeds
We cannot put pressure on China because they own our economy. China has been buying up our debt and our private sector is heavily invested in the Chinese economy. Such companies as KFC, McDonald's, Burger King, Wal Mart and our entire garment and toy industries (just to provide a few examples) are heavily invested in China. Moreover, China has bought up US government bonds worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Pressure on China? We had better hope they don't demand payment on their bonds and close out our US economic enterprises operating in China or we will be at or near bankrupt. The Global Economy --we are probably the biggest globalist-- compromises our ability to place economic pressure on any other large economy in the world. To do so hurts us as much as those we would attempt to hurt by our pressures. The USA can live well on borrowed money as long as the borrower does not demand we pay them back. China could; we would suffer.

Warrior
Fast food and cheap clothing aren't national security issues. If China pulls the plug on those items, we will survive. And if they become belligerent to the point of potential war, we can tell them to take a hike on the due bill.
It's great having nuclear weapons on our submarines...No?

Stan 47 (more)
Where in my comment did I say I found the reference to gay sex with boys to be offensive?
My guess is the originotor of that comment (ER) is a brainless Leftie programmed oaf. He has been told to go to known conservative sites and make those statements to rile us up.

My goof
originator, not originotor

modernone
That paper has maturity dates like many investments where you lose all the interest on early call and all they would get is American dollars anyway. They would get hurt worse than we would.

Kim and that lunatic Ayatollah have both opened the CBN Pandora Box and neither of them seem to understand that makes it lawful to use ANY FORM
of Chemical, Biological and Neucular weapon against them. They have no idea of the WMDs in our arsenals.

Any Embargo is an act of war.
No point in boarding or searching, just turn them all away.

Craig C wrote
Fast food and cheap clothes.

You're right. But China supplies more than that. American companies shifted production there and then China copied the plans and marketed the products a clot cheaper. We do not make many machine tools, any computers, etc. Bill Clinton even wanted the Chinese to make an eco-friendly (non-lead) bullet for the army, though I don't know if that ever happened.

Boeing allows the Chinese to make major parts for their aircraft under license which gives them the technology.

China is building up their military at a rate that far exceeds the needs for normal defense, paid for by Americans buying their products.

China needs us, too. We are the largest market for Chinese goods. We are also the source of much of their technology. What the average citizen can do is boycott China. Chinese products whenever possible. Let American companies know why you are not buying the stuff made in China. Maybe we can make a small difference.


Boycotting - Easier said than done
Where do I find clothing NOT made in China?
How about my consumer electronics? What about the cell phones?

I need a new PC, but Dell is in China. Is it wrong to look forward to the day China calls in its chits and stops selling to our military and puts the squeeze on our corporate honchos?

We may think they need us, but that doesn't last forever. Once they have what they need from us, watch them turn the screws. We'll deserve it.

NK/China/Japan/US
I'm tired of all the talk and of all the warnings. I remember when my kids where young and they misbehaved, the quickest way to get their attention was to act quicly. If I warned them or had diplomatic discussions, all they heard was blah, blah, blah; she's full of hot air. We need to deal with NK and China, and any other roque nation the same way we deal with children who misbehave: Quick action. If China doesn't want to work with us against NK, then they get no more business from us. We do WAY TOO MUCH business with them as it is. We'll work with Japan. Against NK. And, if China feels the rumbles, oh well! There is too much talk. NK and China are laughing at all of us. What a slap in the face of democracy and freedom!

Craig C Two great points-Thanx Brummy
Yes ER. is trying his darndest to keep the Foley story alive,since the left has no ideas or vision.

Secondly'maybe we should show China some resolve,and do as Brummy says,and put on a show of strength.
It would do our Nation good to sacrifice,like those of WW II.
What do you think?
Mybe just maybe,we might appreiciate what we have taken for granted for so many years.

Negotiate! Peace In Our Time!
Peace in our time, Madeline!
Peace in our time, Nancy and Teddy and Hanoi John!
What will you give away this time, for Peace In Our Time?
Maddy and Head hunting Bill gave the NoKo's BILLIONS of our tax dollars in food and oil and even nuke power.

it didn't work

How much of my hard earned tax dollar are you going to give next?

it won't work, either.


They have all sold out
"Bush has sold our soul to the Chinese."

Nixon sold our souls in 1973-74 ALL the presidents since have only ecalated the process.

If China dumps our paper the entire world goes down. We are the consumers of the world's goods, if our money is worthless, how does that bode for the rest of the worlds products--see where I am going?

In the case of the commies though, what does a couple million starving people matter anyhow, we have killed or starved over a hundred million since 1930. A few more is just a drop in the bucket to them.

We think that is playing hardball-they think it is nothing, and that we are weak.

11b

Is There Any
nasty situation extant in the whole wide world that is not the exclusive and personal fault of President Bush?
Some of you folks need to grow up. "Sold our souls to the Chinese?" What nonsense! With that single statement you are saying that President Bush controls every aspect of our banking, economy, trade on every level, etc.. It just is not so. Do you think that when any American retailer needs or wants to do any form of business with a Chinese company that it is President Bush that supervises the deal?
Our President has real limitations. He couldn't even get the Social Security mess half-way fixed.

Can You Canoe?
___ I agree with Cliff May that there is much we can do, without tipping over the canoe. How about officially recognizing the government and nation of Taiwan? Japan, South Korea and Australia's populace are finally waking up to their peril. India, too, is getting aboard. It's NOT all bad. Our relations with these countries has never been better. They are ready to accept leadership and help.
___ The path to international sanity is not drawn with a straight line nor is it without mistakes and setbacks. But it does require resolute persistence. Think of the Grand Canyon; the stone was hard but the water persistent.
___ Listen to Maynard, if you talk it up with your friends and family and organize noisy protests for the boycott of PRC made products (NOT Taiwanese), get the attention of the multi-nationals with letters etc. and promises of boycotts... THEN Grasshopper you are not alone or little or insignificant.

N Korea is a smokescreen for China
Refugee problem? China doesn't care. China likes N Korea because it takes the heat off of China. Just like I like that car that passed me on the freeway ... I like it as I can go a little faster for a bit without fear of getting pulled over.

If he gets in a wreck and kills himself that's his problem. I never stop to think "Dang his driving could kill me". China doesn't think about the consequences of N Korea's actions either.

greater good:Your absolute right.China
Needs to keep NK. in the dark.
If they ever saw the light,then China would have a Democracy on their border.
That's why this will not be resolved,rather insted quelled.
For another decade or so, when we will not be able to deal with it at all. Ya think?

Like 11 Bravo
said... nothing we do will hurt China, it will just hurt Chinese citizens who don't have any choice in the matter. There is an amazingly huge rift between the "haves and have nots" in China and the "have nots" live a life we, as 21st century Americans, cannot even imagine. No welfare or any other gov't help there... and yes, I've been to China... Imagine our country during the early days of the industrial revolution... the horrid conditions for workers, and low pay. That's 21st Century China for many workers. Not all, but many. Some have been able to get really rich, just as the "Robber Barrons" did here, with the same results for the working class. Not to mention all the precious abandoned babies... the "lucky" ones who get American families (over 7000 in 2005). I would not be in favor of politically jeopordizing that relationship. Unfortunate victims? I don't think so, not if it can be helped... just look at these little faces...www.lovewithoutboundaries.com

American Debt
...in Chinese hands is a concern, but the pain of calling on that debit would be felt just as keenly by the creditor as by the debtor.

In other words, China has risked billions of dollars of capital to finance U.S. debt. It will lose those billions if the U.S. defaults. Think of this in terms of a personal loan (without any collateral or tangible items to re-possess.) If you lend someone thousands of dollars and then call in their loan at a time when they could afford the payments but could not afford to pay off the entire amount, then that person is forced into bankruptcy and you get a fraction of the money you lent them. Your bottom line is a huge net loss. This is essentially China's situation with regards to the U.S. Now, whether they realize this is another question, but any attempt to push the U.S. government into default would do grievous damage to the Chinese economy.

Russia and China
Write this down,...some time in the not too distant future Russia and China will be two of the biggest threats to attack the United States. China more than Russia at the present time, but both are far from friends of ours. Of course the radical Islamic groups have the primary intent to destroy us and kill everyone that rejects their religion. We all need to use our heads when we go to the polls in November and beyond.
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