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Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Chuck Norris :: Townhall.com Columnist
David vs. Goliath of Governmental Agencies
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One of the most hideous ways the Internal Revenue Service usurps power and control over Americans is through its oppression over nonprofits, especially religious groups. Threatening to withdraw tax-exempt status and to levy penalties are just a couple of ways it exercises its tyranny.

For example, April 3, Catholic Answers, one of the nation's largest lay-run apologetic (or defense) ministries for the Catholic movement, filed suit in federal court against the IRS for violating its right to free speech.

What spurred on the lawsuit is that the IRS imposed fines on Catholic Answers because Catholic Answers' president, Karl Keating, wrote in one of his "E-letters" that 2004 presidential candidate John Kerry shouldn't be allowed to receive the Holy Eucharist (Holy Communion) because of his pro-abortion stance, advocacy and voting record. Whether you agree or not, Keating was voicing his conviction and opinion, which he has a First Amendment right to do. At no point did Catholic Answers even tell people for whom to vote or not to vote.

Does that letter-writing act sound like something that deserves IRS fines and further taxes?

You can imagine the long uphill battle that will ensue for Catholic Answers as it attempts to sue the IRS. Catholic Answers confesses that it is doing so "not just for (itself), but on behalf of non-profit organizations and churches all across the country that are constantly harassed, threatened, intimidated, and persecuted by the IRS." That is the reason it also is appealing to the public for donations.

Everything is wrong and ludicrous about this type of governmental action, from the dictatorial power of the IRS to the violations against American rights and freedoms. And two major historical inconsistencies emerge from these situations, as well. First, early in our country's formation, the pulpits were the conscience of this nation. Preachers never were restricted in their political voices in any way, per the First Amendment. In fact, clergy and politicians used the pulpits to rally support without threat of governmental intrusion or penalty.

Second, the IRS wasn't started until nearly 100 years after the Revolutionary War, in 1862 as the Bureau of Internal Revenue. Its creation coincided with the creation of the income tax, which it was designed to collect, though income tax later would be ruled unconstitutional. In 1913, income tax was established via the 16th Amendment. Both were the initial work of President Abraham Lincoln and Congress. They saw them as necessary to pay for Civil War expenses.

But could Lincoln even have imagined how the IRS would become the most bloated federal bureaucracy on the planet?

Today the IRS is the No. 1 enemy of your pocketbook. It is the government's financial mafia, the thug collection agency for government's intimidation, control, extravagant spending, corporate bailouts and national debt. It can't be overhauled or even reformed. (Congress' attempts have failed.) Who doesn't fear an IRS audit? It's the only federal agency before which you are considered guilty until proven innocent. I have a better definition for the abbreviation "IRS": Internal Rip-off Service.

Of all the present fallacies in the American system, the IRS must be the one that causes America's Founding Fathers to roll in their graves the most. Not only are its control and power unconstitutional but also its outrageous taxations strike at the core of the very reason for America's secession from Great Britain. The Founders would be horrified by the power of the IRS and its plethora of taxes we now have to pay: income taxes, employment taxes, capital gains taxes, estate taxes, corporate taxes, property taxes, Social Security taxes, gas taxes, etc.

The Founders were opposed to domestic taxes. They regarded high taxes and aggressive tax collectors as tyrannical and always to be guarded against. Patrick Henry warned: "Excisemen may come in multitudes, for the limitation of their numbers no man knows. They may, unless the general government be restrained by a bill of rights or some similar restriction, go into your cellars and rooms and search, ransack and measure everything you eat, drink and wear."

That is one of many reasons I encourage everyone this Independence Day to join a "tea party" and let it be known that we're "taxed enough already." You may not think your participation contributes much, but it was dozens and then hundreds of small resistances that eventually led a revolution in the beginning.

You might not agree with everything Catholic Answers believes, but you must commend its courage to stand up and fight the goliath of government agencies. We already know its odds of losing. Yet we also must remember how the biblical story ends: It just took the right person with the right stone to bring Goliath down.

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the FairTax would solve this problem
along with many others.

Face Facts --
The Power to Tax is the Power to Destroy.

IRS = Interstate Robbery Service
I made a small mistake once on a tax return and owed about $1000.00 more than what showed on the reurn. I had misplaced a decimal point, when I was taking strong pain medicine and completing my 1040 forms.

Rather than sending a letter that should have pointed out the simple mistake, the IRS sent me a package containing the tax code that essentially made me a criminal for knowingly having sent a false tax return.

I contacted the IRS by telephone and was really treated like a criminal. I never would have thought it possible that in the USA you are guilty until proven innocent until you have to deal with the IRS.

I have met several IRS employees over the years and 99% of them all believe that the money that you and I earn belongs to the government and they will try to take as much as they can from us. I hope that they are all atacked by a pack of rabid hare-lipped martian pygmies.

Abolish The IRS!

What we need is a FLAT TAX or a National Sales
Tax or a combination of the two. ABolish the IRS
and let the states collect the tax and send the
money to the national treasury. But FIRST, out
Goverment needs to live within it's means, like
many states, the Federal goverment needs to
spend only (or better yet, LESS) then what it
takes in.

- Randy.


IRS is illegal
Two of the great helps to this country, outside of a returning to God, would be to abolish the IRS and the Federal Reserve. A national sales tax of 10% will make everyone pay their fair share. I have a bumper sticker on my vehicle that reads: If God will accept 10%, then why not the Government? The IRS is illegal. Aaron Russo proved that there is no law that says the government can collect taxes on wages and earnings. The 16th Amendment has been used as a basis for the government to collect individual income taxes but that is a false interpretation. Yet we pay it out of fear that the government has induced upon us. If Americans would stand together and just refuse to pay it would stop, but then if you believe that, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I would love to sell you.

Simplicity
The problem with the tax code is not that we have one. A nation as big as ours cannot subsist solely on tarriffs. Taxes are an unfortunate necessity even to do the things the Government CAN do (Military, mail, international relations, interstate/international commerce, customs, border protection, patents, trademarks, copyrights, coining money, etc.)

The problem is the complexity of the tax code. No one should be required to hire an accountant to do their taxes. It should not take a law degree to know how much you need to pay. There should never be fine print in the tax code (as there was through last year for the new-home-buyer's credit).

The government needs to do two things: 1. Dismantle every program that is not specifically called for in the Constitution. (For example, EPA, Education, Energy, NEA, NEH, HUD, HHS, Labor, PBS, etc.) If the Constitution doesn't call for it, then it's unconstitutional. That would both cut the overall need for money and free up more money for those organizations the Government should be running, per the Constitution (Article 1, Section 8 is a good start).

2. Simplify the tax code. Get rid of all the loopholes, deductions, brackets, etc. Set a "poverty line" and only tax money earned above that line (at the same rate whether it's $1 over that line or $1,000,000,000). I won't claim to be smart enough to say that rate should be 1%, 10%, or 25%, nor will I say the line should be $10,000, $25,000, or $100,000. I'll leave that up to people who know more about it than I do. Furthermore, get rid of all re-taxing of money. Capital Gains, Inheritance, interest on bank accounts, etc. make taxes more complex and usually have the effect of taxing money that had already been taxed.

American Citizen = Indentured Servants

An indentured servant is a form of debt bondage worker.

Historically 'Indentured Servants' were required to work a specific number of years, usually (3 to 7), but the 'Hope' Obama brings with his 'Change', is that the 'Indentured Servants' will only serve from April 15 of one year to April 15 of the next.

The 'Indentured Servitude' class or 'Collective' that Barack Obama is creating, will only be a segment of the American Citizens, comprised of those who willingly work in an attempt to provide for themselves and their families - all others are exempt.

The children of the 'Indentured Servant Class' automatically inherit the 'Debt Bondage' of their parents.

Barack Obama hails this 'Indentured Collective' as Patriotic and a 'Sacrifice for the Common Good'.

This 'Collective' is quite similar to 'Share Cropping', where the worker is allowed to keep a small portion of their labor for personal use.

Barack Obama is NOW destroying the American farmer and food supply, by with holding water to 100,000 square miles of the most fertile land on Earth in California.

The control of the 'Food Supply' is necessary to Barack Obama, so that he can ration enough food for the 'Indentured Servants' to remain alive and work.

Those who are NOT in the 'Indentured Servant Collective' will become the owners and operators, of the 'Indentured Servitude Collective'.

This is but one small aspect of the 'Hope and Change' Barack Obama is bringing to America.

Baerchen
I have no choice but to feel empathy when I read your post as I, too, have found that each time I call the IRS on the same problem I get a different person and get sent in yet another direction. Don't bother to write a letter as that goes to yet another group of people who do not talk on the phone and keep their files, including your letter, under lock and key so that those chatty IRS agents on the phones can't read it. I finally went to my Congressman to get it straightened out; and, wonder of wonders, the IRS wrote him a letter explaining how they had talked to me on a day I was traveling out of state and never used a phone. But, I digress.

WARNING: If you have your identity stolen and the illegal who is using your social security number gets a 1099, meaning no taxes are withheld, don't try to explain it to the IRS. The IRS couldn't care less who got the money; they just want theirs. They are great about it, though. They notify you that your taxes were underpaid as you did not report earnings in North Carolina and California. Do not, under any circumstances point out that you were in Louisiana the whole time and can prove it. Do not, under any circumstances point out that you could not have been in both California and North Carolina sumultaneously. These minor details only irritate the IRS agent to whom you are speaking. Further, it is not in their script of talking points to address the problem and it is politically incorrect to acknowledge a problem of this origin. If they tell you that they will look into it, know that they are on their way to lunch or some office party and they have not heard the last thirty minutes of what you have said.

They have a dandy solution. The next time you pay taxes you are deemed to have underpaid as part of your tax money goes to pay off the undeclared earnings you had in California and North Carolina.


Darrell
You know that many people are arrested and tried criminally for not filing and paying their taxes. What you may not know is that there is no law that allows the IRS to do this. You can take the United States Code (USC) apart line by line or word by word and you will not find this power. Give it a try.

folks
"...That is one of many reasons I encourage everyone this Independence Day to join a "tea party" and let it be known that we're "taxed enough already." You may not think your participation contributes much, but it was dozens and then hundreds of small resistances that eventually led a revolution in the beginning...."

LOL not a single "tea party" had 100,000 people, no where close. FOX Opinion Channel pushed the events relentlessly to little avail even with free entertainment ala' Hannity few showed. This only means one of two things. Your numbers are too small to matter much or your adherents are too lazy and frightened to partake.

Tea parties in our nations history were about taxation without representation. Simply put you are represented; the name itself is a fraud. As far as the churches go, pay taxes and you can darn well preach nearly anything you want. Church donations are not charity although you count them as such.

Fight, fight, fight!!!
I was a tax preparer and the IRS audited one of my clients and found erroroneous deductions that HE claimed. They then wanted to "investigate" me. When I turned them down, which was my legal right, they started an audit on me and all my clients. After over a year of their false claims I ended the audit and sued them in tax court, myself. Before court it went to an IRS appeals officer who was very cooperative and agreed with me that I only owed $300 instead of thousands that the IRS auditors claimed. My point is people in this country have to start fighting for their rights or we'll lose them. And the IRS isn't as bad as the auditors try to make them. I have fought them dozens of times and won them all by knowing the law!

rev [sic] wrigt..acorn

has the IRS investigated rev wrights church or the acorn thuggery/thievery?

selective enforcement??!!

I see little difference

I see little difference between Charles from PA and Hal Donahue from PA in their rants.

(Is there something in the water in PA?)

Charles from PA believes the 'Epicenter' of all that is wrong in the world to be the 'Jews', while Hal Donahue believes the 'Epicenter' of all that is wrong in the world to be the 'Christians'.

If one took the 'Rantings' of Hal Donahue and replaced the word 'Christian' with 'Jew', you would have the rants of 'Charles from PA' and vice versa.

IRS has become Liberal tool of Coercion

Why do Barack Obama and Liberals 'Hate America'?

There is NO simple answer to this complex question.

One thing is certain, the Hatred Liberals have for America is based on the 'Alternate Reality' that Liberals live in, rather than 'Reality'.

Liberals, whether intuitively or deductively, see America as the main impediment to 'Social Justice' in the world.

'Liberal Theology', is based on the belief that the 'Establishment' (read conservatives) have oppressed not only America, but the entire world.

"Social Justice" is a primary goal for Barack Obama and Liberals - they want progressive taxation, income redistribution and property redistribution.

This quest for economic egalitarianism (equal outcomes) is happening today, in 2009 and the IRS is the main tool of 'Coercion'.

Retired Geek
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 8:32 AM EST
I see little difference...If one took the 'Rantings' of Hal Donahue and replaced the word 'Christian' with 'Jew', you would have the rants of 'Charles from PA' and vice versa."

Wrong I speak only of the religious right which is neither. I have no problem at all with Christians

Hal Doofus: Dumba*s Extraordinare!
"Tea parties in our nations history were about taxation without representation. Simply put you are represented; the name itself is a fraud. As far as the churches go, pay taxes and you can darn well preach nearly anything you want. Church donations are not charity although you count them as such."

Wow! The Doofus hits another one out of the "dugout" and into the grand stands behind home plate.

Simply put Doofus, you are a DUMBA*S.

For over 300 years the churches of this country have been doing charitable work, even before this was a country. There has never been a "TAX" placed on any church by any administration during over 200 years of the history of America.

And by the way, the churches of this country WILL CONTINUE TO SAY FROM THE PULPIT the Word of God and whatever else the members of these churches wish to say. This "right" comes from God and is contained in the First Amendment.

Cross that line at your own peril Doofus.

Hal Doofus: No Problems with Christians!
"Wrong I speak only of the religious right which is neither. I have no problem at all with Christians"

As long as these Christians know their place and RIDE IN THE BACK OF THE BUS. That is what you are saying, isn't it Doofus.

You are such a bigot, Doofus.

You hate Christians, Mormans, Jews, and heaven knows what else. The only reason you don't say much about Muslims is because you are scared of them.

You are a sad, LITTLE man, Doofus. I pity you.

Gray Ghost
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 9:20 AM EST
Hal....And by the way, the churches of this country WILL CONTINUE TO SAY FROM THE PULPIT the Word of God and whatever else the members of these churches wish to say. This "right" comes from God and is contained in the First Amendment..."

Yup the word of god like justifying slavery, segregation and the latest encouraging pedophilia. But don't claim to be Christian that is not Christianity

"Wrong I speak only of the religious right which is neither. I have no problem at all with Christians"...As long as these Christians know their place and RIDE IN THE BACK OF THE BUS. That is what you are saying, isn't it...."

No actually it is not. You get involved in elections you pay taxes. That is that plain and simple Wiccan or Christian plain and simple.

"...You hate Christians, Mormans, Jews, and heaven knows what else. The only reason you don't say much about Muslims is because you are scared of them....You are a sad, LITTLE man, ,,,. I pity you."

LMAO see there you go saying lies yet again. I have nothing but contempt for the religious right all the other major religions are fine and I have defended most on these boards

How The Turtle Crossed The Road

Or send stimulus checks to 10,000 dead people?

Or why no other country is willing to loan the United States one Wilsonian dime?

Or pay for health care when we do NOT have enough doctors?

Or tax the "rich", who are no longer rich?

Or explain why Nethanayu is on the side of Iranian protesters?

Or why Obama has stated that we are BROKE?

Or why Biden is on Auto-Pilot?

Or why the Federal Reserve refuses to be audited?

Your Liberalism/Progressivism is killing the patient, America.


It is time for another REVOLUTION or FORT SUMTER.

Hal Donahue @ 8:46 AM

Your actions speak louder and with more accuracy than your words.

IN AMERICA, JULY 4, 2009

The analogies are endless…

Yes, the analogies are endless and I love them because they are true reflections of the virtues of what is GOOD and what is BAD. In politics, as in sports the GOOD and BAD come into clear focus in the extremes. Yet, in politics the playing field is manipulated from outside by those with a self-serving desire for influence and power that has corrupted our institutions to the point of no return; unless WE THE PEOPLE make sure that the playing field is not manipulated.

The question is…How do we accomplish this? (1) Your VOTE…does count…yet your vote is easily manipulated by those with the self-serving desire for influence and power. (2) Your right to petition governments at all levels…yet this right has been severely restricted by those same self-serving individuals and groups.

What is the answer?...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

http://incongress.blogtownhall.com/


wow
im so sick of hal i hope he catches one to the temple....50 cal, his head so big and full of WRONG information (no where was there 100,000 tea party protesters my a$$)it would prolly take two rounds.

Taxes on churches
Today, churches are not allowed to take political stands and remain tax-exempt.

The rule began in the early 1950s. Lyndon Johnson attached the rule to another unrelated bill. Many believe he was upset about a tax-exempt group that opposed his election.

Since then, the rule has been enforced very few times, but is regularly trotted out to threaten religious groups.

It's interesting to note that many traditionally Black churches openly promoted President Obama's candidacy. I have not seen or heard that any one of them is under IRS scrutiny.

I think obama hates the U.S.A.

because he is a Kenyan and muslim.

Who else would so lightheartedly and frivolously go merrily about destroying what has made America the "shining city on a hill" that inspires the whole world?

All available evidence indicates obama was born in Kenya. There is no evidence obama was born in the U.S.A. There is no evidence that obama was ever naturalized.

The most likely situation is that we have a foreigner sitting in our highest office.

If any of the bozos who support obama ridicule the idea that he is not an American citizen, ask them to PROVE that he is an American citizen.

That should shut them up since there is no way they can prove something that is untrue.

Not only does obama offer hope

to his minions, he also requires faith from them.

They must believe he is not an imposter, a fraud sitting in the Oval Office.

The reason they must have faith is that there are no facts to support his being a natural born citizen of the U.S.A.

IRS and Power
The justice system in the US is required to assume you are innocent unless proven guilty. However, there are two agencies in the United States that assumes that you are guilty unless YOU prove you are innocent.

One of those is the IRS. When an audit is made, you are assumed to be hiding income or lying about deductions UNTIL you prove you are not.

The other group is CPS, which has the right to take your child if abuse is suspected until you prove it did not exist.

While I do not agree about the Fair Tax being the best way to go since it would add about 25% cost to all items you purchase (and the fact that Congress would eliminate taxes on certain products such as stocks and bonds while adding it to others such as housing), I do wish the IRS would simply disappear due to their abuse of power.

Obama's "Birth Certificate"
eddie too and others:

Obama's site shows his "birth certificate" and I've had a lot of liberals insist it is the REAL thing.

Please check the site below for a copy of his certificate AND a copy of a real Hiwaii birth certificate. Then try to tell me that the one he says is real really is.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId= 101483

Beware: Power to Tax Health Plan
Clinton's original health plan included a clause that stated that all possessions of anyone who broke any part of the health plan would be subject to confiscatio to "pay for the administation of the plan".

In his plan there were two conflicting clauses. If you obeyed one, you automatically broke the other. No choice about it. You were at fault.

When questioned by Congress about this, he stated that the clauses were there to prevent anyone from causing the government problems. Without any possessions, particularly money, people could not create a problem. He also stated he would veto any program that did not include these clauses.

Beware of Obama's Health Plan. Anyone care to bet that these clauses will not be in it? I need the money.

Equitable Consumption Tax
We need to abolish "income" tax today, and replace it with an Equitable Consumption Tax.
With software program abilities, the split could be made at the cash register - so that retailers do not have to be tax collectors.
The program would adjust the cash, check, credit card "receipts" - and automatically send the say 17% collected directly to each state.
States would have their own independent agreements with federal, as to % sent to federal - with expectations that thereon federal would deal only with defense, international trade, and our highways, skyways.
States would get to keep more than 80% on each dollar they'd collected, rather than the travel fees they now pay routing the money through D.C.
They would then handle all other matters...on the state level, maintaining states rights.
Not one good thing has ever been born out of income tax; it's devisive, criminalizes innocents, stays stupid class warfare, and is used by all parties to control us.
With an equitable consumption tax, everyone - illegals, hookers, rich, poor, tourists etc. would participate equally - in the revitalization of America.
The rich guy would pay over 8 million in taxes on a 50 million dollar Lear jet, and Joe the plumber 17 bucks on a 100 dollar wrench.
What can possibly be more fair than that?
The ONLY reason those who control us refuse to implement such, is because it'd end their self enriching choke hold on us.

Churches have no one to blame
but themselves. Through the 501(C)3 they made their deal with the devil. No political speech equals no taxes. Why should a corporate church be exempt from taxes when a secular corp is not? Keep in mind, I am sepeaking of the CORPORATE church here and not the small (or large) churches of people organized together to practice and witness their faith. There is a world of difference in the two. Catholic Answers ought to seek financial help to do battle with the IRS from those wimps and panderers in the corporate churches. Then they all ought to get in the pulpit and speak the truth, the IRS be damned. Of course, their tax free status is more important than the free speech rights and political survival of their parishioners and this nation. After all, they believe the church will always survive; they've got nothing to loose. I'm sick to death of my former PCA church and Christian-lite new age churches. I want a church like those of the founders where they dicussed the moral and political issues of the day, in relation to the biblical teachings, and how they affected our happiness, well being, and liberty. If not that, I'd settle for a Friend's Meeting where I could worship in divine silence among other believers.

How on earth does
Acorn keep it tax exempt status??

Or for that matter Rev. Wrights Church???!!

Balanced_mind
They keep their status because people like Obama are in office.

Drew
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 11:10 AM EST
wow
im so sick of hal i hope he catches one to the temple....50 cal, his head so big and full of WRONG information (no where was there 100,000 tea party protesters my a$$)it would prolly take two rounds."

LOL thanks LMAO you sound like a true conservative

Why do Liberals Hate America?
I think this answer is quite evident in what Liberals do. They hate America because the people here prefer to be free and do as they wish. That's called freedom. The Liberals want the right to tell everyone ELSE what to do, say, and think and expect instant obediance. "Yes, Massa!!"

Free people tend to ignore them for the most part and go their own way. Free people are willing to grant freedom to others as long as they are left alone to do what they want. Free people are willing to work - and work hard - for what they have and want. They expect others to do the same thing. Free people have lived life on their own and know what will work, what might work, and what won't work. Free people make up their own minds and ignore those who want to tell you what to think and how to think it.

Liberals simply can't handle this. So they want to destroy it. And America typifies to the world freedom. So it must go, one way or another. So Liberals are willing to work with anyone, including those no one else might trust or want around, as long as that person(s) are willing to destroy America too.

Husker2
You are close. Here are the details. The history of this IRS gag order is instructive. It began with the fraudulent election of Johnson to the Senate in 1948. It has been well established by both conservative and liberal historians that Lyndon Johnson’s election to the Senate in 1948 was won by massive voter fraud. Known as “Landslide Lyndon,” this mean-spirited political operative was “elected” by only 87 votes. His challenger, Coke Stevenson challenged his election and presented credible evidence that hundreds of votes for Johnson had been faked. Johnson, however, was successful in blocking Stevenson’s effort by the clever use of court injunctions.
Lyndon Johnson, then a first-term Texas senator running for re-election, inserted the language into a bill in order to silence two tax-exempt organisations that were supporting his opponent.
Typical libtard moves. Like all other libtards, Johnson would use any and all means, even if unconstitutional, to retain power.

45caliber has wrong group
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 2:30 PM EST
Why do Liberals Hate America?
I think this answer is quite evident in what Liberals do. They hate America because the people here prefer to be free and do as they wish...."

You just answered why conservatives hate America thank you very much. It is not liberals or moderates who want in Americans' bedrooms and bodies. It isn't moderates and liberals who want to enslave people by forcing them to work two jobs to barely survive. It is clear that conservatives want to turn America into Somalia - armed to the teeth, living in constant fear of everything and every body. Yup that is exactly why conservatives hate not being able to force America to follow them and obey their "rules".

Hal, Buzz Off
Your comments aren't even worth replying to. Don't go away mad; just go away.

45caliber
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 3:21 PM EST
Hal, Buzz Off
Your comments aren't even worth replying to. Don't go away mad; just go away..."

Nope as a happy troll it is my choice when and where to comment but thanks for the opportunity to correct your comments

DON'T UNDERSTAND

You just answered why conservatives hate America thank you very much. It is not liberals or moderates who want in Americans' bedrooms and bodies. It isn't moderates and liberals who want to enslave people by forcing them to work two jobs to barely survive. It is clear that conservatives want to turn America into Somalia - armed to the teeth, living in constant fear of everything and every body. Yup that is exactly why conservatives hate not being able to force America to follow them and obey their "rules".

HAL I DON'T KNOW WHAT ROCK YOU LIVE UNDER BUT YOU CAN'T TRULY BELEIVE THAT THE RULES OBUMBO IS PROPOSING FOR US TO LIVE WITH/UNDER IS GOING TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY STRONGER. I TRULY THINK THAT YOU WOULD RATHER LIVE LIKE THEY DO SOMALIA THAN THE WAY WE/YOU DO HERE.IF YOU THINK THAT WAY MAYBE WE COULD TAKE UP AN OFFERING TO GET YOU THERE!! I WOULD GUESS YOU HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR YOURSELF OR HAD TO MEET PAYROLL FOR AN EMPLOYEE. IF YOU HAD YOU WOULDN'T FELL THE WAY DO. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU LIBS JUST THINK MONEY GROWS ON TREES.

DENNIS - your caps lock is stuck LOL
"Date: Jun 23, 2009 - 4:15 PM EST
DON'T UNDERSTAND

You just answered why conservatives hate America thank you very much. It is not liberals or moderates who want in Americans' bedrooms and bodies. It isn't moderates and liberals who want to enslave people by forcing them to work two jobs to barely survive. It is clear that conservatives want to turn America into Somalia - armed to the teeth, living in constant fear of everything and every body. Yup that is exactly why conservatives hate not being able to force America to follow them and obey their "rules".

HAL I DON'T KNOW WHAT ROCK YOU LIVE UNDER BUT YOU CAN'T TRULY BELEIVE THAT THE RULES OBUMBO IS PROPOSING FOR US TO LIVE WITH/UNDER IS GOING TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY STRONGER..."

I most certainly do but first we have to pull out of this nose dive you folks have put the country in

"... I TRULY THINK THAT YOU WOULD RATHER LIVE LIKE THEY DO SOMALIA THAN THE WAY WE/YOU DO HERE.IF YOU THINK THAT WAY MAYBE WE COULD TAKE UP AN OFFERING TO GET YOU THERE!! ..."

Read again Somalia is the paradise that conservatives want America to become most like

"...I WOULD GUESS YOU HAVE NEVER WORKED FOR YOURSELF OR HAD TO MEET PAYROLL FOR AN EMPLOYEE. IF YOU HAD YOU WOULDN'T FELL THE WAY DO..."

You guess wrong LMAO

LBJ and religious freedom
It wasn't until then senator Lyndon Baines Johnson (while in a tough senate campaign) managed to have passed a bill restricting speech from the pulpit that all of this mess started.
Several attempts have been made to remove this abomination against free speech, but it has never passed. This might be a good time to contact your congress critter and suggest s/he do the right thing.

Chuck AND GENA Norris' video interview
http://www.nationaltreasures.org/ourmission.html

Resource LINKS in Chuck's exclusive
Chuck's exclusive version of this same column at World Net Daily has some great resource links to "Catholic Answers" and over a dozen other sources, and 300 more words in that column. Check it out at http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=101775

Two Points
1) The IRS should have been a temporary agency to pay for the civil War and then disbanded with extreme prejudice. A sunset clause should have been included in the original enacting legislation that as soon as these unsavory extortionists were done with their thieving to pay the war debt they should have evaporated like a drop of water in the desert.
2) The IRS is a wonderful tool for the politicos, especially putrid liberals, to keep non-profits in check that are potential rivals of pet government programs in order to maintain monopolistic control over their taxpayer funded gross incompetence and wasteful spending.

Repeal the Income Tax
Just repeal it. Don't replace it. The federal government has far to much money. Far too much power and constantly abuse it.
Just take it away. No sales Tax, No Fair Tax and no Income Tax.


http://www.AmericanAmendment.com

the income tax
Thus the high cost of liberalism.

O.B.A.M.A.
O ne B ig A $$ M istake A merica.


Hal Donahue resident idiot
Hal is a tool of Arrianna HuffyPuffy. i believe that he has several illegitimate children with that loose prostitute. She married a gay guy with lots of money to get where she is today. Hal will bow down and pray at her dirty feet to impress her. What a tool. Hal I hope you realize that that evil biatch troll woman will eventually come to her senses and throw you under the bus where you belong. Hal hates America and everything it stands for. What he thinks is a great America is really a Nazi Concentration camp in disguise. Fifty Million already exterminated by the lying souless liberal idiots. Phuck you Hal and the little donkey you rode in on. And yes that Donkey is Arrriiaannna HuffyPuffy.

OUCK FBAMA
HILL KAL

Hal Puke-A _Lot
A true conservative is the polar opposite of everything Hal DonkeyHue stands for. Strive for greatness my friends. Resist the Liberal Koolaid stands manned by folks like Hal and his ilk. They will take you to the gates of Hell and beyond to Burn for eternity in agony. Now i would go to that movie. Cheers

OUCK FBAMA

The Government Welfare (Drug) Cartel
People's thoughts, attitudes, and beliefs lead to addictions and then clinging to these thoughts, attitudes, and beliefs fuel the addiction.

Liberalism is an addiction, and Liberals suffer from the same disease as addicts. The thoughts and beliefs that you have lead to feelings (emotions) which lead to attitudes which leads to behaviors.

The Liberal Mantra for Politicians is that You Are A Victim, and That You Have Been Wronged By The Man, The Society, The Culture, etc. and Then The Government Gives You The Fix. After Awhile, the Addict believes the things that he or she is being taught by the Drug Dealer, in this case the Liberal Democrat Government, and the Drug Dealer gives the Addict his Fix (Welfare Check, Food Stamps, Rent or Mortgage Money, Money for Utilities, and then some Cash Payments so that the Addict can then Buy Some Real Drugs, Alcohol, and other things that the addict wants. And, like all addicts, they blame somebody else for their condition. And, the government continues to Expand The Size and Power of The DRUG Dealer (government that dispenses with taxpayer dollars to addicts who are addicted to government that takes care of him). And like all other addicts, the Government Handout Addict, becomes ever more ungrateful for what he or she has, and becomes more and more hostile and demanding. And, like all DrugDealers, the government keeps his clientele happy by giving him or her free drugs, while at the same time Enslaving The Addict. And, eventually the Drug Dealer will Demand that the Addict sell his or her very soul just to get another Fix of the Drug that he or she is so deperately addicted to. The Drug Dealer will addict children and then have the children become prostitutes who will do any despicable act just to get one more hit, fix, or dose of the drug he or she craves.


Bureaucratic Despots
Only Deadbeats invite and welcome a Welfare State. As for Medicare, older retired citizens who worked for a living paid into this program and are entitled to the proceeds of the premiums they paid. The same goes for Social Security. Of course, the Liberal Democrat establishment, overtime, started using the Social Security fund to fund Welfare for those who never worked a day in their lives. Also, the Medicaid is Free Health Care for Mostly Deadbeats who never worked a day in their lives either.

I am all for eliminating Medicaid completely, and also the welfare programs that qualify deadbeats for this Free Medical Care. It is only free to the Recipients, but costs workers billions annually in taxes.

It is time to Abolish the U.S. Department of HHS, and also their state equivalents.

Here is the problem with a government agency or department being established to deal with a "perceived" social problem. Once the agency or department is established, the "perceived social problem" will never improve, and in fact is guaranteed to grow worse, as the agency or department becomes it's own empire and seeks growth by ever recruiting New Victims to serve, and in fact, creating new types and classes of victims to serve so that the Bureaucratic Empire can continue to expand in size, power and budgets. And, these government agencies create Addicts. Those dependent on government for their very existence become addicted to being taken care of and become slovenly and lazy and ungrateful deadbeats. And, like all deadbeat addicts, they are demanding and blame others for their problems.

The liberal democrats have Made the Federal Government the Primary Drug Dealer in supplying Addicts with their Fix of Government money that is extracted from workers. The liberal democrats have this down to a science, and that is how they gain and maintain power by enslaving Welfare Addicts and ever-recruiting new classes of victims as voting blocs.

Here's an excerpt from Geek the Paranoid
"Barack Obama is NOW destroying the American farmer and food supply, by with holding water to 100,000 square miles of the most fertile land on Earth in California.

The control of the 'Food Supply' is necessary to Barack Obama, so that he can ration enough food for the 'Indentured Servants' to remain alive and work."
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Really?? Tell me once and for all -- are you that demented or are you just doing this for a laugh? How in your wildest dreams do you imagine Obama is personally doing this? Tell us how he's withholding food and water? I don't mean your opinion -- I mean tell us where you received that information and the actual workings of this plan.

Let me tell you something Geek. You can have your fun, but you're the perennial "boy who cried wolf." You literally lie all the time. All. The. Time. It's one thing to say "you think" but you've been outed on this before: You're an outright liar -- a fabricater who pulls information from the far reaches of his imagaination with no thought to the truth. AND, you claim it IS the truth. You state your rantings as if they were true. I told you this before when you wrote about your disgusting obsession with gay anal sex (Still on various columnist's comments section -- see for yourself) Your fantasies are NOT reality and your psychotic paranoid musings about Barack Obama havr taken a serious turn for the worse. Talk to your wife if you have one - if not --your boyfriend or significant whomever, see a doctor, check into a hospital but do something. Anyone who reads what you have written here would agree you are a seriously disturbed person in need of support.
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