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Monday, July 07, 2008
Chuck Colson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Government At Its Worst
by Chuck Colson
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A few years ago, a good friend of mine decided to buy an old country campground, enlarge it, restore it, and invite inner-city children to use it. It was, for him, the beginning of a nightmare that would last for years.

In order to proceed with the camp, numerous permits, clearances, and approvals were required by an astonishing number of government agencies. These ranged from a County Planning Commission to the state’s Historical and Museum Commission to the Environmental Protection Agency to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

Absurdity was the order of the day. For instance, my friend was required to get a permit to cross a “wetland” with a truck. This “wetland” was a damp area some 18 inches wide; the only time it was actually wet was during heavy rains. In order to cover the wet patch with boards required various permits, which delayed the project nearly three months.

In the end, the various government bodies delayed the project for two years and cost my well-meaning friend millions of dollars.

Now, understand—my friend got his zoning and construction permits at the outset. This was a case—all too common today—of regulatory agencies making it almost impossible to do anything because they have overlapping jurisdictions.

We saw the same thing with Hurricane Katrina. The left hand—the federal government—did not know what the right hand—state and local governments—were doing, and vice versa. The result was everyone stumbling over one another and doing nothing.

This paralysis was predicted some 40 years ago by French theologian Jacques Ellul. Ellul foresaw the Information Age and the media’s need for a steady flow of information to feed the populace. Media would, therefore, gravitate to covering centers of power. Politicians would be willing accomplices, because they would gain fame and clout.

All this happened, and created what Ellul predicted: the idea that every problem has a political solution. This, he warned, would lead to increasing dependence on the state. The result: programs piled upon programs, agencies upon agencies, and the whole structure of government become so unwieldy it could hardly function. We would end up mired in bureaucratic gridlock.

Meanwhile, the intermediate structures of society—church and civic groups, which are absolutely essential to prevent an all-powerful government from taking over—begin to wither away. Government becomes increasingly intrusive, and a form of paralysis sets in. Private initiative is destroyed.

This was certainly so in my friend’s case. He told me that no sane person would undertake such a nightmare again.

There is a profound Christian question at stake here. Scripture says government has just two objectives: to preserve order and do justice. How did we get from that simple function to a government that requires 18 different permits before you can build a new bathroom—or expand a campground for needy kids?

When we go to the polls in November, we should beware of any candidate promising that government will solve all our problems. We need to work to keep government doing its right roles and no more, because if we do not, it will eventually cease to function at all.

As my friend will testify, we have come perilously close to that today.

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Chuck Colson was the Chief Counsel for Richard Nixon and served time in prison for Watergate-related charges. In 1976, Colson founded Prison Fellowship Ministries, which, in collaboration with churches of all confessions and denominations, has become the world's largest outreach to prisoners, ex-prisoners, crime victims, and their families.
 
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A play on words
Notice how words change in order to push a particular agenda?
Examples (not limited to):
"Jungle" becomes "Rain forest"
"Swamp" becomes "Wetland"
According to US government rules, any puddle that "exists" for more than three days is considered a "wetland".
Shades of 1984.

MRCMRC
He sits on all of these forums. Typical lib, he begs for attention because otherwise he is ignored by most because he is a bore or most people are busy working and tending to their families.

MRC you should try working. A paycheck will turn you into a conservative.

Wetlands
Three-quarters of Alaska, probably more, can be considered a wet-land because permafrost keeps the water on top of the ground in the short summers. We can do precious little in this state without reams and reams of federal paperwork proving that we're not damaging a wetland, or if we are, we're creating one somewhere else. The agency I work for built a new building two years ago. It took us four years from the date we purchased our land to when we started building, because report after report had to be filed and then sometimes follow up reports were required. The land might have been a wetland in the 1940s, but the US Army used it for something and then Alyeska Pipeline used it as a pipe storage yard in the 70s, so it's been well-drained gravel for 60-odd years. But we still had to prove that we weren't damaging a wetland and that we had a plan for what to do if it suddenly reverts to a wetland and what were we going to do with the gravel from the foundation and ....

Yeah, wetlands protection -- it's a wonderful thing, unless you run up against a bureaucracy that can't see the trees for the forest or the one sheet of paper that says "This is NOT a wetland" amid the forest of trees we killed for file those reports -- in triplicate.

Sounds Great!!!.
I'd LOVE to vote for the smaller government guy...know any?

(Besides the nut breads of Ron Paul of course)

IT ALL STARTS IN THE SCHOOLS
".....If we want our government back we have to disband the Dept. of Education, outlaw the NEA and all teachers unions and return the schools to the control of the local communities ...I am not holding my breath .....COLOSSUS"

Amen! Ever since the high schools became unionized the quality of education has gone right down the tubes. Further, because instructors can gain tenure at our colleges and universities, the cost of higher education has risen to the point where it is no longer in reach of the average household. Is it an investment? The costs are beginning to exceed the returns, especially when good jobs are being shipped overseas.

Ratas #14
In 1963, I gave a speech at Kutztown State College in PA on the subject that we have no rights when we have to get a permit to do anything.

Sam in VA
Fortunate you weren't in MI:

The state of Michigan threatened local beabers with a $10,000 per day fine for failing to remove their dam:

http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.asp

sam allen
are you adviocating overthrowing the present system with violence. be very careful. people might be listening and i believ it is against the law.

jaynay
why in the world would you lie about something as simple as this.., i never said that to you and it simply is not true but you may bl=elieve it if it suits you. . . my misspelling is a sign of my attitute towards what i read in these threads,,. you simply are not worth going back and corrwecting things. .

Scoundrels
The answer is easy. Don't waste your vote on Obamma or McCain. They are both chickens of the same feather. Cast a vote that will make a difference for Mr. Barr. Any other vote is a vote wasted.

My
sister lives in So. Mass. Several years ago, she and her husband built a home on a former
golf course. The lot next door contained one of the ponds, it was over grown with scrub brush, and scummy with oily runoff. It was also deep. If a kid had wandered there to play and fell in, no one would have known til it was too late. The subdivision residents were
refused "permission" to remove the brush (there was also junk in the pond), I think by the water commission???. This golf course was developed some 50 years ago by my Aunts bro. in law at a time when there weren't any doofus's posing as experts making regulations. She also had a low section in her dirt driveway, which
in rainy weather became a middle sized puddle, longer than wide. A cattail grew in it..yep,
you got it..couldn't fill in the puddle.

Those permits are nothing more than taxation without representation. There's a city near
me that forces people DNR to use it.

congress
They write these regulations and do not put specifics in them therefore unelected bureaucrats make up their own rules,but they answer to no one.

walkerny
Such a project is being tried with New Hampshire. Google the Freestate Project.

Countryman re: John Galt
Yes. I know John Galt. He's a great guy. I’m glad you’ve also heard of him. I only wish more people had.

IT ALL STARTS IN THE SCHOOLS

.....American Public (government) schools were based on the ideas of Horace Mann of Mass and Calvin Stowe of Ohio who were greatly influenced by the Prussian model of "forced" schooling in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schooling could deliver:

...1. Obedient soldiers for the Army ...

...2. Obedient workers for the mines ...

...3. Subservient civil servants for the government ...

...4. Subservient clerks for industry ...

...5. And citizens who thought alike about major issues ...

.....This Prussian system was intended to create an artificial national consensus on matters worked out in advance by leading German families and the heads of institutions ...

.....If we want our government back we have to disband the Dept. of Education, outlaw the NEA and all teachers unions and return the schools to the control of the local communities ...I am not holding my breath .....COLOSSUS

The housing crisis
Whenever you hear liberals blather on about the need for the government to build "affordable housing", remind them that it was liberal governments that created the housing crisis in the first place with things like rent control, zoning by-laws, and greenspace projects.

See: "Economic Facts and Fallacies" by Thomas Sowell

I'm with M Sederoff
and Ragner Daneskjold. No more permits to replace a broken toilet, or to tile my kitchen wall.

Ragnar and M Sederoff
You got it right, that's what I do, just ignore the regulations.

The gumnt doesn't have enough people to drive up and down every street every day to check whether Americans have permits to do what they need to do.

You only give them power by telling them what you're going to do; it's a case of them thinking that Americans love their gumnt, and will do anything they are told. HA!

BTW, Ragnar, you wouldn't know a fellow named John Galt, would you?

JMO51 - 9:02
So then, we need to elect more Democraps, because only they know how to make bureaucracy loving, compassionate, and oh-so-gooey sweet.

Congratulations! That may be the single funniest thing I have ever read on this site.

regarding MRCMRC
Like Robert who was also a pest without well thought out arguements, nobody but a few of you read and responded to him. Why don't some of you try not reinforcing him by responding to him?

JUST SAY NO
There is a saying that Ive lived by most of my life. “Better to beg forgiveness than ask permission”. This is a Classic case as to why Ive chosen this policy. The only exception Ive had to make is obtaining a drivers license, a pilots license required for my job and car registration. But after 8 home and 3 apartment building purchases, all requiring Major restoration or remodel, Ive never asked for any government Permission. And if youre wondering; the answer is no, Ive never been caught. If all of us just said NO, perhaps government would get the message and get out of our way.

The Problem with Regulations .
The major problems with regulations is ONE SIZE FITS ALL . THE MARSH WET LANDS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE .
I had a large Mud Hole that only attracted Snakes , Mosquitoes and Rodents on my front Lawn and it smelled like hell .
This Environmentalist (Snake ) with the county came out and said .....'' You can't convert that Mud Hold into a Pond .
{SO } out thinking the Whacky VERY LIBERAL ''WOMEN "I read the Federal , State and Country regulations ....... I BUILT A DAMN 200 Yards AWAY FROM THE MUD HOLD .
NOW I HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL BASS POND ON MY FRONT LAWN . SHE SAW IT A YEAR AND A HALF LATER AND RAISED HOLLY CANE BUT THERE WAS NOTHING SHE COULD DO TO ME .
WE MADE IT LOOK LIKE BEAVERS HAD MADE IT .........NO LAW AGAINST BEAVERS DAM'S IN VA !

business owner comment
I love aardvarkbullets comment. As business owners, my hubby and I applied to RENEW a conditional use permit to continue doing what we had done on the property for 20 years. It took 3 years, $100,000 in legal fees and mountains of paperwork. Talk about killing the golden goose!

HOMELAND FOR CONSERVATIVES
In the 70s militant Blacks used to talk about a 'Black Homeland', giving a state like NJ or TX to African Americans and calling it home.

I suggest we make a similar homeland for freedom loving conservatives. A place where you work hard or suffer the consequences.

I suspect the place would thrive, although we'd have to be ever vigilant for encroaching liberals, criminals and professional mooches.

This is where we are headed:

“How did we get from that simple function to a government that requires 18 different permits before you can build a new bathroom”

In “The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else”, Hernando De Soto, a Peruvian economist, explains that, while anyone (in a Third World country) can theoretically acquire property, because of the “red tape,” only a few, THE WELL-CONNECTED INSIDERS, can do it legally in a reasonable amount of time. As an example, he tests the “red tape” of the administration system in his native Lima, Peru, by applying for a permit to set up a two-sewing machine garment factory in a Lima shantytown. “It took more than 300 days (to get the permit), working six hours a day, plus 32 times the monthly minimum wage.”

Other examples he found include:

– the 207 bureaucratic steps required to legally obtain a home in Peru;

– the 168 bureaucratic steps requiring 13-25 years to formalize informal property in the Philippines;

– the 77 bureaucratic steps requiring 6-14 years to gain access to desert land for construction and to register those property rights in Egypt;

– the 111 bureaucratic steps requiring 4,112 days (over 11 years) to obtain a sales contract following the five-year lease contract in Haiti; and, last but not least,

– the 728 bureaucratic steps (taking who knows how long) required by the municipality of Lima to acquire title to a home.

An example closer to home is Al Gore's carbon credits that allow him to be a hypocrite.

Sam Allen
I think you're right; MRCMRC is likely a user of government services. I think he's probably also a user of government-proscribed chemicals.

For mellor, aardvarkbullets
I can actually remember a man in Marietta (GA) whom I regularly saw at a gym tell me that the bureaucracy amounts to the "fourth branch" of the government.

For jaymay: MrCMrC's problem is that he uses spellings from Urdu, Arabic, Spanish, ...; unfortunately, those are incorrect in both English and Americanese (eh, I know I'll get clobbered for this, but...)

MRCMRC is a MoveOn.org plant?
He's causing the same ruckus over on G. Will's site.

He ought to either (1) think before keyboarding and/or (2) leave.

Amen, brother
Mr. Colson: we met at a Cooley Law School reception about 17 years ago, and you did a great job, addressing the law.

I had a friend, in the same "wetlands" thing. A nightmare. They finally decided to get around the thing by buying the wetland rights to separate piece of property -- like $20,000.

This is what happens when a bureaucracy tries to regulate a highly-variable situation. FUBAR.

This is what Barack Hussein Obama is going to do to health care and taxes. Really make a huge mess.

MRCMRC likely a user
If MRCMRC's responses are a true indication of his abilities then likely he is primarily a user of government services. Therefore, he would never have to take initiate and would never have to face these types of regulations. Furthermore, as the government is now a substitute for God and our parents, he would likely assume that any regulation put on others must be good because the experts do know best.

Believe
I believe Colson's friends story. But his conclusions are biased by his ideology. I will bet that many of those government entities that Colson's friend encountered are run by Republicans. People who don't believe in government don't take the time to learn how to run them.

For every story we have of regulations creating silly burdens we also have example of people dying or communities ruined when you have a lack of regulation. Think mining disasters in WV, PCB;s in the Hudson River in New York, Industrial dust explosions in Indiana. You also get Enron, worldcom, the subprime mess.

We need a proper balance between the public and private sector. Conservatives like Colson love it when they can cite examples his freinds but gloss over or deny the tragic consequences of a lack of regulation.

What is needed is a proper balance. Cost benefit is what is needed, not an out of context interpretation of scripture.

This happened under Clinton, but came to a screeching halt under the Frat Boy's administration.

Have you ever tried to do anything?
MRCMRC has obviously never tried to do anything significant, because if he had he would have run up against this sort of thing. Government regulation is so extensive these days that trying to do anything new has become at least twice as hard as it would otherwise be.

Unfortunately some of this is caused by the lack of personal responsibility which sometimes leaves a void that bureaucrats have no problem filling. Once a bureaucracy is big enough then they begin taking even when there is no void.

I really am not sure that there is an answer other than decline and eventual revolution. I am convinced that the bureaucracies are already so big that they will not give up power without a war.

Many years ago

we used to be free.

Now, you have to buy permits to perform any act, other than breathing.

Do not worry, 'THEY' are working onthat problem, and will soon come up with another permit.

Rats
(and mice)

Oh, and 'Crack Smoking Mitten Typer' (CSMT)...

You are STILL being monitored for racist remaks and posts, as well as hateful ones with death wishes for other posters.


People bend too much
to the will of government.

Why didn't your friend simply approach the project as a private individual who happened to own a parcel of land in the country who happened to have a lot of friends who were kids and he invited his friends to his property?

I never ask the government's approval for anything. I have made numerous modifications and changes to property that I own and never once have I gotten a building permit or asked the government's permission.

I have done other things that I have not informed the government of but time and space does not permit me to go into detail. I would say 99 times out of 100 the government will never know if you keep your mouth shut. The government has their hands full just trying to run their own affairs. They have little time to monitor the average Joe. If you tell them what you are doing, you give them license to run your life and you in effect become a witness against yourself.

And do not forget the NIMBYs
Even if the bureaucrats do not get you, the marching NIMBYs will. We used to call them IGMs -- I Got Mine -- the people who do not want anything built and in fact would like virtually everything torn down, except what will make their own lives more comfy.


MRCMRC
Is most likely fully aware of what he's doing. It's a game he's playing. And the slander of Colson is just part of his game.

Doug
I asked MRCMRC earlier if he was handicapped; it looks like he types with his fists. He said the only handicap is difficulty in spelling, I think dyslexia. Guess I'll take him at his word, and offer compassion. But I no longer read his posts.

MRCMRC
People might take you a bit more seriously if you were to take the trouble to learn grammar, punctuation, and spelling. It's not especially difficult; most of us mastered these subjects before puberty.

The very idea
that every problem has a political solution is absurd. Truth is, most problems today, both in this country and abroad, have a political source.

Agriculture & Regulations
Food production and productivity is the backbone of any prosperous society and has been since the earliest of times.
Our bureaucracies are literally killing the mother goose of the fabled golden eggs.
Farming in America is quickly turning into "Mission Impossible" given the miriad impediments our far too many bureaucracies impose on them.
If our dependence on oil is painful, our dependence on imported foods will really put us at the mercy of our food suppliers. This is currently happening at an astonishing rate and we may be closer to this new "addiction" than most think.

i dontt believe you
idont believe a word of this except for the authors name and youll pardon me if i have some doubt about that . After all he certainly has a backgroud rife with untruth so as there should be no rason he wouldnt do it again, i have lived in an area very much likehe is describing for over 30 years

abd while here are the normal difficulties you expect ot find in any kind of bureauocracy there has never been anythin like this, and if there had been we would have known because those who want all or most restrictions lifted watch things like hawks
a day or two delay when ther shold be none is already too much and enought to legitimately
complain about. i simply do not believe the rest of it. what did he do for over two years, sit and think about misadventure why didnt he do dsomething.

Doomed
Since I can't say it any better than Old Thomas, I let him speak. Here are some of his nuggets.
A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.
Thomas Jefferson

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson

Amazing, these observations are more valid then ever.
And this is what I think is going on now.

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.
John Adams
Ya all do know we are a Republic or whats left of it.




Bureaucratic Deadlock
The bureaucracy that exists in every level of government today drives up the cost of every thing that we buy in this country. Our elected leaders have bowed to every argument about the environment and small groups that want to control our society.

Currently 40% of our gross domestic productivity go to taxes to support this vast bureaucracy. Every upper level of each bureaucracy is filled by senority instead of qualifications.

Can you imagine any business other than government that could survive if it were managed by the workers that have been there instead of people that strived to improve their skills and knowledge to advance.

We need term vote for representatives that will limit government, not increase it.

Remember this when you vote in November.

aardvark bullets has it right
But a gun is not enough any longer. More like a tactical nuclear weapon.

Unbelievable!
For the first time ever, a half-way decent article from Colson.

What's he smokin'?

Thomas Jefferson had it right
Mr Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence, had the right idea. About every 2 generations you need to shoot all the bureaucrats and government funtionaries and start all over again. Sort of keeps the system clean. Like a dose of prunes. The Second Amendment a'int about hunting, its about keeping these people under control.
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