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Monday, September 11, 2006
Chuck Colson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Lessons learned and unlearned
by Chuck Colson
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Today is the fifth anniversary of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, as well as United Flight 93 in Pennsylvania, which took 3,000 innocent lives. At the time, more than a few commentators predicted that, henceforth, our era would be divided between “pre-September 11” and “post-September 11.”

Thus, we need to know how things have changed, if at all, in these past five years. What lessons have we learned, and how have these lessons changed the way we live?

The answers are mixed.

The good news is that the terrorists have failed in their attempt to disrupt our way of life. After the shock of September 11 subsided, Americans returned to normalcy, which is a good thing. We refused to give the jihadists what they wanted: that is, frightened acquiescence to their agenda. We took sensible precautions to increase our security and went after al-Qaeda, which has prevented further attacks on the United States—much credit due to our government.

The bad news is that five years and hundreds of deaths later—in places like Bali, Madrid, and London—many of us in the West still don’t understand what we’re up against.

This lack of understanding can be seen in the recent flap over the president’s use of the expression “Islamo-fascists.” As I’ve told you, the term fascist can properly be applied to the likes of bin Laden. The president’s critics, for the most part, don’t deny this.

Instead, their objection is that the term is inflammatory and offensive. They think that an acceptable combination of rhetoric and concessions will divert Islamist radicals from their path. This is dangerous nonsense. As the London Telegraph put it, quoting an Islamist leader, our enemy isn’t trying to exact concessions from us; it’s trying to eliminate us.

That’s why European attempts to link the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to the war on terror are absurd. Even if that conflict were resolved, that wouldn’t satisfy the jihadists. First of all, they want Israel annihilated. Secondly, the jihadists’ goals extend well beyond the Middle East to Europe and to the United States.

The failure to understand the threat stems, in part, from the West’s own loss of faith. For many of us, religion is something we do - or don’t do - depending on how it makes us feel. We don’t look to religion to tell us how we should live our lives, and, thus, we fail to understand how religion, and the worldview it inspires, might affect other people.

Thus, the British, after allowing jihadist preachers to operate freely, are now shocked to learn that their citizens pose “the biggest threat to U.S. security,” as the foiled plot to bomb airliners illustrates.

People who have stopped taking their religion seriously have trouble appreciating what other people’s religion might drive them to do. And it’s not just Europe. At home, our secular elites totally miss the point. When they are not downplaying the threat, they are making grotesque comparisons between Islamist radicals and politically active Christians.

On a day like this, we ought not only remember what happened but why it happened, as well. Understanding that “why” starts with taking religion, and the worldviews it produces, seriously and recognizing Islamo-fascism for what it is: a deadly and dangerous enemy that wants to destroy us.

For further reading and information:

Today’s BreakPoint offer: “The Clash of Worldviews: Defending the Truth” - a speech by Chuck Colson to the Wilberforce Forum Centurions on Christianity and Islam.

BreakPoint Commentary No. 060821, “Islamic Fascists?: What’s in a Name?

Daniel Pulliam, “Reuters Fails,” Get Religion, 8 August 2006.

John C. Rankin, “The Soul of Jihad,” BreakPoint Online, 3 August 2006.

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Chuck Colson was the Chief Counsel for Richard Nixon and served time in prison for Watergate-related charges. In 1976, Colson founded Prison Fellowship Ministries, which, in collaboration with churches of all confessions and denominations, has become the world's largest outreach to prisoners, ex-prisoners, crime victims, and their families.
 
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Good article Chuck
Concise and to the point. Will we ever "get it"?
Some have, others, I'm afraid never will unless they are forced to their own knees in subjugation to "allah".

Well done Chuck
Some have put 9/11 out of their thoughts and get on with their lives as if it never happened. Others, like myself, can never get it out of our minds. And I will never forget the murdering Muslims dancing in the streets as our towers fell.

Islam is a barbaric murderous cult period!

Goshawk...
...I bet we don't see that footage of them dancing again...

You can learn a lot in 5 years or not
When a terrorist speaks it's because they mean to kill as many people as they can. Their rhetoric is deadly. Unlike the rhetoric the Democrats use to only make Americans believe President Bush is the biggest threat to this country and not the terrorist. Understanding this threat still hasn't sunk in to most Americans. They believe if President Bush wasn't in office all would be back to normal prior to 9/11. I say listen more to what the terrorist are saying because they love to boost about how their going to kill you. They throw in our faces before they do it. All we have to do is listen, and listening to threats in the past was not something we took serious. Regardless on how the antiwar protesters feel, we're at war. It wasn't our choice. We had no say in the matter. It's either stand around and wait to be killed or fight back and say this far and no further. The terrorist wants to convert or kill us and we should have a say in the matter. We don't want to convert or die because of your screwed up twisted outlook of Islam. If there's one thing the terrorist have learned from Americans is that we don't die easily.

Lessons
Great article Mr. Colson. We have learned some lessons, but we need to quickly learn some others. Our enemy cannot be placated and seeks our extermination, we must be resolved in stopping their murderous aims around the globe.

Convert or die
When Centanni and Wiig were captured, they were forced to convert to Islam or die.

That tells me all I need to know about the "religion of peace".

Goshawk
Have no idea if you are a country music listener or not, but I, for one listen to Darrel Worley's song daily:

"Do you remember how it felt that day?
To see our home land under fire and her people blown away.
Do you remember all the people killed?
Some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field.
And they tell me not to worry 'bout Bin Laden.
Have you forgotten?"

Mountain Rose
You are right. Here is one just for you! When it gets down to the nut cuttin we should refer to that terrois as Assuma Blown Noggin.

left out a "t"
probabbly a carryover from intentionally leaving out the 1st one.

Grotesque comparisons
Colson said "...they are making grotesque comparisons between Islamist radicals and politically active Christians."

I'll disagree with the "grotesque" part, but I see little difference between 2 religions that promise to force their scripturally-based ethics down my throat. I'll agree with a broad swath of those ethics, but that's not to say I'm going swallow the whole lot. Some people live by what's called "Divine Command" ethics (such as devout Muslims, Fundy Christians, and Conservative Jews). I tend to follow natural law ethics.

Don't take this as me being an "atheist" (far from it; it'd be the tragedy of the universe if this existence were all there was), or hostile to religion. Your (lack of) religion's fine - for you.

The parallels are there. It's just a matter of degree. One wants to kill me, the other to 'convert' me. I just want to be left alone.

It wasn't easy to write that
Don't take my previous post the wrong way. I'm trying to comment on a personally complex topic in a few sentences. It's really more complex than I have time to write about here, so any short writing is bound to come across the wrong way to some people.

Maverick wrote:
"...Unlike the rhetoric the Democrats use to only make Americans believe President Bush is the biggest threat to this country and not the terrorist."

I won't say specifically that President Bush is the biggest threat to _democracy_ in this country, but the biggest threat is simply ourselves.

The Democratic Republican ideals are so deeply ingrained in us that terrorists could wipe out DC and every state capital and it would change nothing in the structure of our government. Someone would survive and take over the reins of the gov't. In short order we'd have new Assemblies and a new Congress and have the ball rolling again.

If democracy lives or dies in this country, We The People will be the author of its destruction, either through action or inaction. Who killed civil rights in Nazi Germany? Fascist Italy? Who killed the Roman Republic? The people, through acquiescence to the government. Destruction came from within, not without.

lessons and more lessons
What the Islamic terrorists want is to either convert us all to Islam, or kill us - or, possibly, if we're lucky, they might be satisfied with having the White House, Congress, Senate, and Supreme Court all filled with Moslems, and every state government, every city council and every mayor's office soon to follow.

Being under Islamic law, while not being Moslem yourself, means that you pay a burdensome tax to the Islamic rulers; you can forget all that fuss about the separation of church and state, because there will be no church except those approved by Islamic rulers, and there will be absolutely no separation between Mosque and state. Then we can also expect to have some judges like those in Iraq while Saddam was in charge - "you cannot go to church today [or whatever he decides that he doesn't want you to do] because it's against Sharia law. And the law says that because I say it says that. [forget any hope of appeal]" This was the situation in Greeece while Turkey was in control there; don't expect that we'd get any better.

What the Democrats want is to regain power in Washington, DC, as well as every Governor's chair, every state legislature, and every other level of government - and they don't care what it costs in terms of money, soldiers' lives, or any other thing I can think of. You complain about Big Government? You ain't seen nothin' yet - just wait til Ted K gets back from his latest binge and proposes legislation to control where you buy your groceries. Of course, he's not doing that now, because he knows it would never pass, but if the Dems have a solid majority in both Senate and House, AND a Democratic Pres...... They thirst for power - maybe I should say lust for power - and they will never have enough power.

The msm is joined at the hip to the Democratic party; that's why ABC buckles when Clinton screams "No!" In their version of reality, the job of journalists is to produce propaganda for any and all liberals - that's why we need reporters and commentators like Mr. Colson - and there's quite a list of others. My TV stays off between 6:30 pm and 7:00 - unless we pop a DVD in the player - because Couric, Brokaw, Jennings and Company - and their successors - are so biased.

Too many Americans, I fear, haven't figured out how biased the msm is, and still believe that we never found WMDs in Iraq (because the one they trust so much never said we did), that the war in Iraq is not part of the War on Terrorism (because the one they trust so much keeps saying that they're two separate wars), and the list goes on. This is the biggest lesson we need to learn, I think.

Have we lost already?
I'm almost afraid we have. Our local dem party boss last night on the news said that the Path to 9-11 was all full of lies. It is obvious he and all the dem leaders have not understood what the muslims have been saying and that everything that their 8 years produced was so great.

Remember the purpose of the cockpit tape. It is not to finger the crew and find blame, but to find out how to not have it happen again. That shuld be the lesson of the Path.

Ed

Path to 9/11
"I'm almost afraid we have. Our local dem party boss last night on the news said that the Path to 9-11 was all full of lies."

Anything that comes out of Hollywood is, either by design or for dramatic purposes. I didn't watch it, but I would question two things:

1) Did it stop at the Clinton administration?
2) If so, why? What did Bush do or not do in the intervening almost-8 months?

I can't speak to the backers of the film, but I _heard_ that they are supposedly religious right-wingers with a possible axe to grind against the left. Don't know myself. Don't care; didn't watch it and I'm not going to.

Call a spade a spade
Islamo Fascist is a copout. The problems are within Islam itself and after the numerous attacks even before 9/11 from members of this relgion we have a right to debate its merits and meaning in a public forum possibly Congressional Hearings but this has never been done. The term Islamo Fascist is a form of political correctness because it sets aside a group of Muslims and lets the core of the religion, the Koran and Hadith, and its followers off the hook. They are the only ones that can fix the problem and they have done nothing to do so. Doesn't that raise a red flag? Why haven't there been headlines about Imams denouncing attacks on Israel and the United States as a legitimate form Jihad? Instead they save their protests for cartoons. All that has to happen is for Muslims in All Islamic countries is to denounce all of the terrorist groups and the hatred of Jews and Israel and the hatred of America and Western Democracies and to call for peace but instead they they praise Hezbollah as heroes and Hamas as freedom fighters. If it was only a small group of Islamo Fascists within a huge peaceful religion there would be no problem and that is what people think that it is a small group, but that is the biggest blatant lie of our times. Bush supposedly drew the line with, "You are either with us or against us," but has not acted on these words. If they do not weed out the terrorists in their own societies they are against us. If they do not get rid of the Madras schools that teach hatred in their countries they are against us. If they do not destroy all terrorist groups or actively try to do so in their countries they are against us. And all of who claim that Zionism is the biggest problem in the world are liars and they are against us. There are peaceful Muslims in the world but they are not the ones taking to the streets. They speak out as individuals or as small groups and the major groups like CAIR do nothing but try to defend Islam and though they cry crocodile tears for the victims of Islamic Terrorism, they do everything they can to protect the terrorists with an Islam can do no wrong attitude. Calling Osama Bin Laden a Fascist is also inacurate, as Fascism has to do with a state and Alcaeda is not a state but a cancer a disease. He is not a Fascist. He is a plague. The answer to the problem is to confront Islam head on. To demand they prove they are with us and fighting for peace or they are the enemy. The answer is to stop lying to the public about a small group but to face the fact that the Muslims who either support terrorism actively or passively by saying nothing, are a majorit and are the enemy and against us. They must choose which to put first, the country that feeds them protects them or the religion that foments terror or to interpret the Koran in such a way so it does not create terror and to openly denounce those who say suicide bombers are martyrs. The Islamic countries must choose they are "actively" with us or they are the enemy and as of now the majority of the Muslims and the Islamic world are dong nothing to solve the problem and they are the enemy. Unless anything changes soon we are not dealing with, "Islamo fascists," we are at war with Islam.

Of course we're at war with Islam,
Prof Gene, but that isn't politically correct.

We, as a country or as individuals, are forbidden to speak out against the real enemy, hence we have to invent other names for him.

We aren't allowed to say things against Islam that might offend Islam. Even as Islam is planning and plotting to kill us now, we can't actually say that.

Alice in Wonderland never had it so good, and Winston Smith never had it so bad.

Leasons learned and unlearned
If the dumocrats/liberals would just open their eyes they would see what we see. That our lives and country are in mortal danger but yet they are stupid enough to want open borders and to allow all the illegal immigrants into our country without a care for the American citizens. All they can think about is hating Bush and the administration, they have become insane with it. Pathetic and they have helped put this country in this situation including Clinton who did nothing in both his terms, not even learning to keep his britches zipped.

Just answer the question
"I guess having your head stuck up your nether region also prevented you from hearing that the film takes BOTH administrations to task for their failures."

As I said, I didn't watch it. That's why I was asking the questions. Duh!

"...while your hero..."

So every time I ask a question, it shows Clinton is my hero?!!! Good lord, is that what passes for debate around here?!

Two different things...
"All they can think about is hating Bush and the administration,..."

It's one thing to hate. It's another to think the emperor has no clothes. There's a difference. Every time someone says the emperor's strutting around buck naked, some of the more strident start trotting out the H word.
Puh-LEEZE. Give me a break.

cat trapper
You bet I love country music! I'm a Redneck cowboy through to my bones. And not one of these fake, make believe dudes. I'm a real cowboy born and raised in Southern Colo. Born on a working cattle ranch were I grew up working with some of the finest men I have ever known. I learned to break horse's, round up cattle, Brand calves, castrate bulls by the time I was 17 and joined the Air Force. From there I gained an electronics background, got out and became an Electronics Engineer.

But my roots are in the Redneck life and always will be. I still own a hundred and sixty acer's in Colo. Which I plan to make my final retirement. Shoot, I'm sure I told you more than you wanted to hear. It's just that I hate Liberals! And will not stand for what they're trying to do to my country! And hearing the patriotic country songs this morning on Good Day America, hit home.

real cowboy
cat trapper
It's refreashing to hear from the real McCoy, I was ill when they had the browback movie, but some of the women around this state called Massachusetts, said they could'nt wait to go get their eye full, some said on public talk show radio it would turn them on. This is the state of Mass confusion, and to top it off, Men change into woman, and then they send the parents and the children of the community to conseuling, state pays for it, to let them know it normal??? I am happy to hear there are some natural, normal people, A Man sure of his idenity, and his self worth.

Goshawk.... didn't tell me too much
Myself, I live on the Osage Indain Res. last part of the tallgrass prarrie. Cowboys and Indans all around. Still some places here with 15-20 thousand acres with no roads. Came here from Indian 25 years ago, grandson of a farrier, to wrangle and cowboy on a 60,000 acre family owned ranch. My definition of a true cowboy: someone who has castrated and sliced apples with the same pocketknife (mayby even in the same day).

Pleaure to know ya!

Kathy
shame to think about all that and Plymouth Rock isn't it?

Sorry I left the "a" off of Indiana.

cat trapper
Re: pocket knife. You've got that right, and used for everything thing else it lends itself to. From digging out thorns and splinters to letting gas out of a steer that got into alfalfa.

Osage res.. Sounds like a great place!

Kathy, I read some about that movie and it made me sick just to read it. All the redneck women I know have no desire to see a couple of girly-boys.

Liberal Hollywood and leftist
agenda. Sure dissapointed with Heath Ledger almost makes me want to brake my dvd of The Patriot.

Absolutely amazing
I have learned not to trust a President who keeps reading a story about a goat to a class, AFTER being notified that our country is under attack.

The cancer that's killing us
I hate to say it, but the toxin coursing through the veins of western civilization these days (and, really, for a few generations now) is white females and their spineless male handmaidens. I know, I know, that's a harsh statement, but these "people" seem more eager in urging the killing of unborn (especially male) children and the self-immolation of western society than they do in urging that Europe and America respond forcefully to an existentialist threat.

Feminism, Nazism, Communism - all evil ideologies and all ideologies of the left (and, horrifyingly, its the left controlling our institutions of higher learning and our media).

Jay and N_Idaho_SOB
Besides having been in office only eight MONTHS before 9/11, remember that a newly elected President usually starts choosing cabinet members (Secretary of Defense, etc) before Dec 1 - before he's even inaugurated - party change or not.

Al Gore did his level best to delay this process for GWB with all his vote recount activity. I don't mean to say that he didn't (or doesn't) have a right to ask for a recount when the totals are close. In some places around the country, it's a standard procedure anyway when the totals are within some specified percentage of each other. But need I remind anyone here of the joke going around in early Dec 2000, about Al Gore and a puppy?

What's the difference between Al Gore and a newborn puppy?
After five weeks, the puppy opens his eyes.

Michael:
LOL. I never heard that one. And it's two weeks, not five. Puppys' eyes open in two weeks. But that would defeat the joke I guess.
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