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Friday, June 05, 2009
Charles Krauthammer :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Settlements Canard
by Charles Krauthammer
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WASHINGTON -- Obama the Humble declares there will be no more "dictating" to other countries. We should "forge partnerships as opposed to simply dictating solutions," he told the G-20 summit. In Middle East negotiations, he told al-Arabiya, America will henceforth "start by listening, because all too often the United States starts by dictating."

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An admirable sentiment. It applies to everyone -- Iran, Russia, Cuba, Syria, even Venezuela. Except Israel. Israel is ordered to freeze all settlement activity. As Secretary of State Clinton imperiously explained the diktat: "a stop to settlements -- not some settlements, not outposts, not natural-growth exceptions."

What's the issue? No "natural growth" means strangling to death the thriving towns close to the 1949 armistice line, many of them suburbs of Jerusalem, that every negotiation over the past decade has envisioned Israel retaining. It means no increase in population. Which means no babies. Or if you have babies, no housing for them -- not even (BEG ITAL)within(END ITAL) the existing town boundaries. Which means for every child born, someone has to move out. No community can survive like that. The obvious objective is to undermine and destroy these towns -- even before negotiations.

To what end? Over the last decade, the U.S. government has understood that any final peace treaty would involve Israel retaining some of the close-in settlements -- and compensating the Palestinians accordingly with land from within Israel itself.

That was envisioned in the Clinton plan in the Camp David negotiations in 2000, and again at Taba in 2001. After all, why turn towns to rubble when, instead, Arabs and Jews can stay in their homes if the 1949 armistice line is shifted slightly into the Palestinian side to capture the major close-in Jewish settlements, and then shifted into Israeli territory to capture Israeli land to give to the Palestinians?

This idea is not only logical, not only accepted by both Democratic and Republican administrations for the last decade, but was agreed to in writing in the letters of understanding exchanged between Israel and the United States in 2004 -- and subsequently overwhelmingly endorsed by a concurrent resolution of Congress.

Yet the Obama State Department has repeatedly refused to endorse these agreements or even say it will honor them. This from a president who piously insists that all parties to the conflict honor previous obligations.

The entire "natural growth" issue is a concoction. It's farcical to suggest that the peace process is moribund because a teacher in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem is making an addition to her house to accommodate new grandchildren -- when Gaza is run by Hamas terrorists dedicated to permanent war with Israel and when Mahmoud Abbas, having turned down every one of Ehud Olmert's peace offers, brazenly declares that he is in a waiting mode -- waiting for Hamas to become moderate and for Israel to cave -- before he'll do anything to advance peace.

In his much-heralded "Muslim world" address in Cairo Thursday, Obama declared that the Palestinian people's "situation" is "intolerable." Indeed it is, the result of 60 years of Palestinian leadership that gave its people corruption, tyranny, religious intolerance and forced militarization; leadership that for three generations -- Haj Amin al-Husseini in 1947, Yasser Arafat in 2000, Abbas in December 2008 -- rejected every offer of independence and dignity, choosing destitution and despair rather than accept any settlement not accompanied by the extinction of Israel.

In the 16 years since the Oslo accords turned the West Bank and Gaza over to the Palestinians, their leaders -- Fatah and Hamas alike -- built no schools, no roads, no courthouses, no hospitals, no institutions that would relieve their people's suffering. Instead they poured everything into an infrastructure of war and terror, all the while depositing billions (from gullible Western donors) into their Swiss bank accounts.

Obama says he came to Cairo to tell the truth. But he uttered not a word of that. Instead, among all the bromides and lofty sentiments, he issued but one concrete declaration of new American policy: "The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements," thus reinforcing the myth that Palestinian misery and statelessness are the fault of Israel and the settlements.

Blaming Israel and picking a fight over "natural growth" may curry favor with the Muslim "street." But it will only induce the Arab states to do like Abbas: sit and wait for America to deliver Israel on a platter. Which makes the Obama strategy not just dishonorable but self-defeating.

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Obama plans for Israel
...what he has been slowly doing to America. And here is how he does it! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/05/obamas-cyber-se curity-farce.html

This is one clever blogger! FUNNY too!

American Jews Hated George Bush
Obama could drop the nuke on Israel himself and in the next election, half of the Jews in AMerica would send him money, campaign for him and vote for him.

This after George Bush spent seven years trying to rein in the insanity and teach the Arabs tough love. American Jews hated him.

Obama gives the same people who danced on 9-11 a billion dollars of our money. ONe suspects that it is just the tip of the iceberg. No doubt they'll be free now to build more soccer stadiums named after suicide bombers, more commercials showing Jews eating Arab children and buy more weapons to be used against Israel.

If another holocaust happens, this time it will be the Jews who not only stuck their heads in the sand, but gave time, money and moral support to their executioner.

What about rights of Jewish refugees?
No one ever talks about the Jews who were driven out of Arab countries.

When the fighting ended in 1949, Israel held territories beyond the boundaries set by the UN plan - a total of 78% of the area west of the Jordan river.

About 726,000 Arabs fled or were driven out of Israel and became refugees in neighboring Arab countries. The conflict created about as many Jewish refugees from Arab countries, many of whom were stripped of their property, rights and nationality, but Israel has not pursued claims on behalf of these refugees.

US chides Israel then...and now.
Krauthammer predictably pushes the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)agenda. US foreign policy has been distorted for decades by our blind support for the brutal Israeli state.

The Israeli land-grab has continued in defiance of international law yet the US continues to pour billions of taxpayers dollars to support oppression and outright thievery.

Somewhere along the way we lost our objectivity as regards the Palestinian situation and gave the Israelis carte blanche to oppress the Palestinians.

Remember when President Ford’s UN envoy William Scranton addressed the UN on March 23, 1976?

Here's what he said:

“Clearly, then, substantial resettlement of the Israeli civilian population in occupied territories, including East Jerusalem, is illegal under the [Geneva] Convention and cannot be considered to have prejudged the outcome of future negotiations between the parties on the location of the borders of States of the Middle East. Indeed, the presence of these settlements is seen by my Government as an obstacle to the success of the negotiations for a just and final peace between Israel and its neighbors.”

President Obama is merely going back to the basis for peace in the Middle East. He needs to get tough with the recalcitrant Israelis.

The path of least resistance
If President Obama closes Gitmo because he says it's a recruiting tool for the terrorist. Then he goes to Europe and the Americas and apologizes for all the wrongs of this country. Makes a speech to the Muslim nation, tearing this country apart and praising the Muslims for all of their contributions to the world, and in the same breath mentioned closing Gitmo again giving the impression this is a nation of torture. It's no surprise he would sacrifice Israel in the same way, so he wouldn't have to confront Muslims. There is no way President Obama is going to confront Muslims whether they are friendly or radical. He's going to attack this country, condemn our way of life and remake America because it offends the world, especially the Muslims. President Obama is going to do the same thing with Israel so that he won't have to confront Hamas. It has nothing what so ever to do with natural growth. Israel in the eyes of President Obama is just as wrong in his eyes as America is. Don't forget how President Obama thinks about everything being equal. Which is why he thinks Iran has the right to be nuclear. President Obama won't be happy until he divides Israel right down the middle where the Palestinians come away with more land and benefits then the Israeli's. Just like UAW came away with the company. President Obama is always looking for the easy way out using American's and Israeli's as the sacrificial lambs in the world he envisions.

No progress until Israel is recognized
King Saud of Saudi Arabia said that Arabs did not understand the "strange attitude of your British Government, and the still more strange hypnotic influence which the Jews, a race accursed by God according to His Holy Book, and destined to final destruction and eternal damnation hereafter, appear to wield over them and the English people generally."

This attitude is shared by all the Arab nations and their goal is to see all Jews removed from "Palestine". Until the Muslim nations acknowledge the right of Israel to exist as a nation, there can be no lasting peace and all the concessions made by Israel will only aide the attacks of Palestinians and Arabs; their ultimate goal-the elimination of Israel.

Intolerable
Yes, Israel's land grab is intolerable---and must stop. Good work Mr. President. The Palestinians must work for a two state solution. I say go back to the 1967 borders!

Obama's speech is the beginning of winning back the respect of the Arab and Muslim world, thank God.

DCR Israel's Land Grab? LOL
If Isreal was to reclaim it's original borders, say good-bye to Jordan.

Ya gotta see this
An Egyptian man buys a souvenir which reads 'Obama New Tutankhamon of the World'.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2009/jun/04/obama-s-cai ro-speech

Obstacles to peace

The cause for the Arab-Israeli conflict is the claim of two national movements on the same land, and particularly the Arab refusal to accept Jewish self-determination in a part of that land. Religious concepts regarding the right of either side to the entire land have played an increasing role, on the Jewish side particularly in the religious settler movement, on the Palestinian side in the Hamas and similar groups. But whereas the settlers received a blow when they failed to prevent the disengagement from the Gaza Strip, Hamas won the Palestinian elections, and after their breakup with Fatah and their take-over of the Gaza Strip, they remain a dominant force capable of blocking any peace agreement.

The Arab-Israeli conflict is further complicated by preconceptions and demonizing of the other by both sides. The Israelis see around them mostly undemocratic Arab states with underdeveloped economies, backward cultural and social standards and an aggressive religion inciting to hatred and terrorism. The Arabs consider the Israelis colonial invaders and conquerors, who are aiming to control the entire Middle East. There is resentment concerning Israeli success and Arab failure, and Israel is viewed as a beachhead for Western interference in the Middle East. In Arab media, schools and mosques anti-Semitic stereotypes are promoted, based on a mixture of anti-Jewish passages in the Quran and European anti-Semitism, including numerous conspiracy theories regarding the power of world Zionism.

Since the Oslo peace process however, a broad consensus has been formed that an independent Palestinian Arab state should be established within the areas occupied in 1967. Polls on both sides show that majorities among Israelis and Palestinians accept a two state solution, but Palestinians almost unanimously stick to right of return of the refugees to Israel, and most Israelis oppose a Palestinian capital in East Jerusalem.

Israel can survive just fine
"...for every child born, someone has to move out. No community can survive like that. " The writer ought to get out to rural America, where communities have experienced natural shrinkage for generations. Although some towns have disapeared and others are the worse for it, much of rural America thrives with low population and even negative growth. It's not the end of the world.

Skulptyr//sol.
Get out of here! Nobody wants to handle the truth!

Kevin...



Kevin
Location: MO
Reply # 1
Date: Jun 5, 2009 - 12:05 AM EST Obama plans for Israel
...what he has been slowly doing to America. And here is how he does it! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/05/obamas-cyber-se curity-farce.html

This is one clever blogger! FUNNY too!

~~~

Kevin, My friend,

That is the very first statement you ever made that I find inappropriate.

I quote you here: " Obama plans for Israel
...what he has been slowly doing to America. "

~~~

"slowly" That is the silliest thing I have seen from someone I consider to be a conservative. "slowly" ?

What is going on here is the most rapid fire destruction of our Country that I have ever seen.

Moreover, I have read a lot of the true history of our Country, and it also exceeds the silliest thing I have ever read about.

"slowly" ? I think not !

A few of us elderly folk have a different viewpoint, simply because they got their education before the standard became "How to put a condom on a gourd".

I and, Others also obtained their education outside the Government Propaganda Schools.

I repeat myself here...

"slowly" ? I think not !

This administration has done more damage to Our Country and Our Constitution, in about four months than all other administrations combined.

I cite a few of the worst...
Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Lindon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, and now for the "Coup de etat" our mess-iah the pResident Muslim.


We are doomed ! Doomed, I tell you!



Whoops! The Rat Fed.U. Typo...



Sorry I mis-spelled Lyndon.

A rash mistake, in the heat of the battle.

I shot a moving tree, rather than the enemy commies.



Told Ya
I remember writing Safire and telling him that it wouldn't be long before the U.S. became, to Israel, another "worthless Rahab." During the election, I warned against the fear-vote, as American Jews were more worried about another Sharpton Pogrom, another Crown Heights, and would sell Israel out to prevent another.

First evidence that this administration was ready to feed Israel to the lions: Chas Freeman. He'd be directing National Intel if some of us hadn't shaken the tree and screamed like crazed monkeys.

Told ya. Told ya. Told ya.

A Hoarse, My kingdom for a hoarse...





Gadzooks, and forsooth!

"Obamba the humble"

Shouldst we clad His lordship in armor, mount him upon a hefty Steed and send him forth to sally forth into battle with dragons and demons?

Nay, sayteth I !

Rather we shouldst sit around the hearth and mumble, lest we be overheard, and be reported to his lordship's couteriers, who will demonize us and we shalt revert to the status of Robin of Loxley.

Stand ready, ye knave!

Ye canst push only so far, and ye shalt meet resistance!

I quote :



"I r a dumbuddy. I gots no money."

"Obumma who?"

"Hey, i giv yu $20 if yu giv me $10,000"

"Ye shouldst slay whitey."

" Aye matey, pay me tab at the pub, give me clemency fer me crimes, an I'll vote fer ye."

"Aye, matey. I deal in terror! I thought I was the world's best, sadly, obummer has me beat. I leave ye now to visit "The Boars Head Inn" to swill down several pints of "Harps ale". 'Tis the only way I can survive the 'End of Times'.

~~~

Then, an English Lord, Teddy, expounds, "I say! What have the proles become?"

And, he adds, "Lets all go swimming. I have several cars available."



Ms. Fancy Nancy says, " Our slaves in Samoa are not humans, therefore they should not receive minimum wages." "Sorry, folk, I am too ignorant to speak in anything other than sanfranciscese."


" Once a Marine, Always a Marine ", exept for the slime bag in PA. "

"I hate dis cuntry. i hate da militery, i hate all of yu. Vote for change, vote fer me."




~~~~
Well, Folks, I could go on for hours, but I believe I have covered the highlights.



How Can Anyone Be Surprised?
BHO was weaned on the poisonous anti-semitic milk of Rashid Khalidi and Rev. Wright.

Israel is alone in the world now.

The Veil is Off

America-majority: how does your bride appear now? This guy told the country what he was about, what he wanted to do, what he hated and didn't hate, but who was listening.

One lie after another....he is a truly awful individual and president.

What was really going on
..in the speech conceived and written by others and read from a teleprompter was paving the way for abandoning Israel. Cutting ourselves loose from our cultural and moral roots. But the shadowy "others" don't care about the consequences of such ignorance and cowardice, because they know they are not going to have to face real elections in the foreseeable future.

DICTATING? OR PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE?

DICTATES? YOU DECIDE:
Forcing Banks to take TARP money they don't need, want or have asked for.
Refusing to allow Banks to give TARP money back.
Firing company CEOs.
State stimulus money STRINGS.
Setting salary caps.
Cafe standards.
Etc.....
COMING SOON:
Energy grids
Value Added Tax
Control and denial of Health Care
State 'bailouts' with Nationwide taxpayer dollars--TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
Federal Censorship of all media, including the internet
Federal monitoring and data bases
Federal restriction of the Second Amendment
Amnesty for 'illegal aliens' including Gitmo terrorists?
Legislation from the bench of Judges
UN resolutions which supersede our Country's Constitution
Change of currency from the US dollar to an Internationally mandated currency
IRA taxation OR a redesigned and taxed version of 'Retirement Accounts'
Elimination of Social Security benefits OR tiered according to a persons 'Estate' net worth.

If the above are not 'dictates' by our government, one of the World's largest Countries, over its citizens, then TELLING Israel, one of the World's smallest States, it MUST DO or NOT DO anything, surely isn't a 'DICTATE' either. It's called 'PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE' as is our liberal left government's agenda for America.




Non-Sense
The only solution for peace is a two state solution. That has effectively been the American policy since Pappy Bush was President. The growth arguement is non-sense especially when you look at the sitution the palistinians face. I agree with Charles that much of the blame for failure in the peace process has been on the arab side, but that is irrelevent. The future is the only thing that matters and building nore settlements is not going to get us closer to peace. As to the dictating arguement, given the fact that Israel is heavily dependent on US aid for its self-defense it seems reasonable that the US should be able to demand respondible behavior from the now far right dominated government in Israel. The people behind the settlements are not looking for growth, they want to make a two-state solution impossible, that is their agenda, not growth. In that respect their position is just like Hammas, they are enemies of peace.

Its time to get on with this for the benefit of the palistinians, Israelies, and US interests and his position is the same as that held by nearly a majority of Israelies and many in the Jewish community here who are quite pro-israel but know that building new settlements is a very bad idea.

Please Don't Bother Me
Please don't bother me with these issues! I have much more important things to do:
- I got to renew my food stamps claim. All really smart people do, you know what I'm sayin', 1 in 9 these days.
- After dat I got some laying around time scheduled for da middle of da mornin'.
- Around noon my gurlfren' has an appointment at the abortionist. Now, I can't be dere for dat, but I'll be checkin' in, you know, wit my cellie... from time to time, if I ain't too busy.
- I gotta re-file for unemployment, afterwards I gotta go so some places dat are givin' stuff away for free.
- And oh, yea the soup kitchen at 4, they always gots some gut food.
- Later on I be pickin' up a few more Obama posters and souveneirs for da apartment. Ain't he da bestest President ever? I already sees how much better da country is, you know what I'm saying, level playing field and all, fairness and like that. I jest can't hardly wait to vote for him again in 2010, or 2013, well, whenever. He makin' dis a great country!

Charles Krauthammer: AWESOME!!
You cut to the bottom of the issue and write it like it is. Thank you for your genius.


Empathy
The O man rules with the same criteria he used to pick Sonia Sotomayor, empathy! It has nothing to do with truth, justice or honesty.

Bingo
"Instead they poured everything into an infrastructure of war and terror, all the while depositing billions (from gullible Western donors) into their Swiss bank accounts."

Gullible Westerners are virtually the only donors to the "Palestinian" cause. Fellow Arabs contribute virtually nothing besides weapons and incendiary rhetoric. For two decades before the 1967 war, they kept their brethren confined to city-sized "camps," disenfranchised, unassimilated, and impoverished. More than 60 years after the initial upheaval, "Palestinians" still living in Arab countries remain marginalized. Arab countries have deliberately turned what should have been a short-term refugee problem into a perpetual crisis that may engulf the whole world in war. Gullible Westerners throwing money at the problem have prolonged and exacerbated it.



Fantasy Control Reply #22
Is absolutely correct.

American Jews are intimidated/pushed around by the clamorous left-wing to such an extent they will sit back and watch Israel brought to her knees. After all, the great Satan is Bush, no? So let's kill the messenger of good news for Israel.

Palestinians are victims...of Palestinian misgovernment.

Obama, as usual, as always, talks platitudes in public and allows the dirty men to do the exact opposite in private. World-class con artist.

President Red Light by day, President Green Light by night. Chicago style gone national.

Obama is a spoiled grandchild, shaped by the worst anti-American mentors imaginable. But he's a pretty baby, now isn't he? Coochie coo!

If only a Mandarin Candidate were all he is, what a reasonable compromise that would be! In the meantime, Jews will continue to be destroyed by the self-hating atheists among us.

In times past, miracles sufficed. May we pray that this too is a similar time past moment slated for the history books as the previous moments.

Krauthammer's article
"After all, why turn towns to rubble when, instead, Arabs and Jews can stay in their homes if the 1949 armistice line is shifted slightly into the Palestinian side to capture the major close-in Jewish settlements..."

Sure, why can't San Diego shift its borders just slightly south into Mexico to capture San Diego's growing suburbs? Because it's wrong and illegal, that's why.
I not naive enought to think that stopping settlement growth will guarantee peace. It should be stopped because it's wrong to steal other's land.

Arab Settlements
Why can we not try to even the playing field? We'll start terming Arab locations inside the pre-67 state borders as "settlements" and make it clear that whatever is planned, suggested or carried out vis a vis Jewish residential areas inside the proposed "state of Palestine", will happen to the Arabs.

If the best peace entails dismantlement and expulsion of Jews and their homes, why not the other way around for the very best peace?

Israel should tell
Obama to go kiss the Iranian ring. If they think they will get a fair shake from him they are nuts. They need to behave just like Iran, ignore the rest of the world and go do what they need to do to survive if that's preemptive in nature so be it. No amount of diplomatic BS will solve this problem. They could give away their whole county and the Palestinians would still be unhappy.
BTW wasn't Jordon suppose to be the home of the Palestinians?

Fantasy Control
Right on the money makes you wonder doesn't it?
Obammy is Israels great Satan. Maybe ours also.

BHO the Muslim SUCKS!
Obama is a TERRORIST! When will we wake up and STOP this Dictator for Destroying our Country?

Watch out America, the next Czar Obama appoints will be the one to ensure you never say anything bad about him!

2012 - Year of our FREEDOM!

Don't forget God
You can talk politics all day, and who did what to whom, who has a right to what.
Israel is God's. He chose the Jews and gave them the land, and no man can deprive them of it.
In the last days Israel will stand alone. America used to be Israel's friend, but that is no longer the case. The Anointed One, has chosen his side. Israel stands alone, except that the Lord God watches over her. He will be her defender, friend, and savior.

Dr. Krauthammer
Great column. The "one" is no freind to Israel, and will try to bring her down. Thank God they put BeeBe in the PM spot. He will not be dictated to. I pray for our country every day that we will wake up to the threat that the "one" is. 2010 is coming, and the 2012 election is our new Idependence day.
Kirk

Israel and Palestine
Bravo for this well written article. Many of the comments are right on. The Palestinians have chosen war and conflict and disruption. For this we should reward them?????? Where has our national sanity and common sense gone? I am very angry at the incompetence of our international relations and neutering of our national security. This administration has gone too too far.

Obama the Humble = Obumble-Bomb
Thank you Mr. Krauthammer for sticking up for Israel. Obama 's speech was a missive from the devil. Israel needs to listen to its own leaders and people and not to Obumble-Bomb. The speech? Another fait accompli, a pandering to Muslims and how we will help them get this and get that and stick up for the women so they can wear their Hijabs and all. Does anyone doubt who and what he is NOW?

IMO Obama now has a bigger bull's eye on him-- that he has just refreshed with that last speech. He can say that he is a Christian but Christ would say "I never knew you."


No one has caught the hidden meaning of his SUPPORT of the protection and defense of muslim women who want to wear their hijab headscarves. I quote the book , Holy Terror by Amir Taheri:

"The increase in the number of women WEARING THE VEIL and men WHO GROW BEARDS is the most concrete sign of the presence of a truly dynamic Islamic movement."

,,,"according to Ayatollah Ali-Akbar Meshkini, number three in the Islamic Republic's (Iran) theologicial hierarchy, the first step toward the creation of the divine society is to make sure that people
LOOK RIGHT."

Too bad Brian Williams didn't film Obumble-Bomb crying as he shaved. It was probably too pitiful to watch.

Avoid the last minute rush! Join the American Grand Jury movement
if you didn't JUST LOVE the Obumble-Bomb speech. We are working now to rid ourselves of this false messiah, this muslim toady.

http://americangrandjury.org-- A country is a terrible thing to waste.

borders
If BHO really thinks the best solution is for Israel to surrender the lands they now occupy after the various conflicts. Then perhaps he would also support the returning of territories obtained by the US upon the end of the Mexican American war and return the South Western states to Mexico. Thereby ending the illegal alien problem. That way he would also set an example to Israel

Excellent dose of honesty Charles
Obama rarely speaks truth to power..........He said what the audience in Cairo wanted to hear and not the truth.........Obama is a panderer......................... The Cairo speech is another confirmation of this. Obama never mentioned that arab states refused to allow Palestinian's to settle in their countries. ...................................Obama never mentioned that the Palestinian population has ballooned since Israeli independence.
Obama never mentioned that Palestinian leaders have sold their compatriots out by fostering hate and rejecting reconciliation.

Obama wants to dictate to friends and placate enemies.................Obama advocates an incoherent formula for the future.

Beit Canard
“The House of Canards” This is not a bad name for a West Bank village. The Canard clan was composed of migrants traveling from continent to continent, Nairobi to Jakarta to Honolulu, New York and Chi Town. Feeling displaced and homeless, children never felt the love and devotion of parents and developed into world leaders. “I feel your pain!” is the Canard war cry. The media love the Canards because they are the underdogs and superheroes. The Canards are a humble clan and the chosen few. The Canards rule the world and maybe responsible for 9-11…. Maybe I should title this The Obama Doctrine? I hear Duck Season just started…long live ducks!

Who said this fool speaks for America?
He may speak to Muslims all he wishes. But Islam will not help the USA, however Israel has, and will continue to do so. Somebody elected this phony and now that somebody or somebodies have to deal with his global stupidity as well as his economic stupidity at home. Shut up BHO and stay home. Tom Bosun

chas 2012
is too late I cant stand it lets make a difference in 2010

WHAT DID OBAMA ACCOMPLISH IN CAIRO?
Now that Barack Obama gave his groveling speech to the flattered Moslem world what exactly did he accomplish? What did he gain for peace in the Middle East? Iran continues to build a nuclear device and to fund terrorism and radicalism throughout the region. The Saudis quietly continue their program of subverting constitutional democracy by building mosques and schools in America and the West. The Shia continue to dominate Iraq and Hezbollah moves closer to getting control of Lebanon to the alarm and mortification of Sunnis everywhere. Settlement activity continues on the West Bank as Hamas fires rockets into Israel. Al Qaida continues to plot mass murder attacks on US soil, and the slaughter and genocide in Darfur continues. A speech was given yesterday that will soon be forgotten as Obama returns to the United States and the sick, dysfunctional Middle East to business as usual.

Click my name and read my piece: Obama's No Win Situation in the Middle East.



Obama the protector
now that Barack Hussein has finally admitted he is Muslim and stated his job is to protect Islam (along with Abdulla the Sheriff of Mecca and Medina whom he bowed to) is Obama Sunni or Shia anyone know? or is he a MetroMuslim?

Gezz Raymond
Dont give him any more ideas he has enough bad one already. Lets not forget he isnt alone in this congress needs a house cleaning

Obama's Dictate to Israel
Obama gave TARP, Bailout, Stimulus (TBS) money to banks and financial companies and he damn well has dictated how they conduct their business. GM, Chrysler also got TBS and now they are getting the shaft. Obama dictates their business plans, their future products, the terms of the union contracts and the repay of the billions of "loans". The USA has given Israel grants and aids in the past, I don't know if the Obama administration has appropriated any new aid monies to Israel, but on the basis of past support, Obama is now dictating suicidal terms to Israel. All those stern orders are wrapped, as usual, in sweet reasons. Obama's orders are unnecessairy because pretty soon the USA won't be in ANY position to give orders, let alone financial aids to anybody, thanks to the disastrous, self-destroying and mostly unconstitutional government dictates.

Tom he
got 69,000,000 votes hes driving the bus.

Apollo he let
them know they are winning and he's on their side

ZECHARIAH 12
Israel's only ultimate hope is in God, and He will be her Savior. All nations will turn against Israel. But those within the nations who are true believers in Messiah must pay any price to serve the God who saves them - and who will save Israel. (Zech. 12 / Romans 11 / Matthew 23:39)

Royinoslo
That garbage that you just spewed is the most simplistic piece of crud that anyone has tried to pass off as a solution on this board.

It is obvious that you have never experienced any "shrinkage" except when coming out of cold water.

The only way
to slow this nut down is to take to the streets on July 4th and lets all those supporters in congress know that we will hold THEM responsible. Join a tea party today
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/

Tom
" But Islam will not help the USA, however Israel has..."

It sure has! By spying on the US and then trading that intelligence to the Soviet Union, by selling advanced air-to-air missiles to China's PLAAF, the Python III, by helping China develop a new generation fighter--the J-10 based on the Lavi which the US helped Israel develop, selling information on the Patriot to the Chinese thus endangering both Taiwan and the US, helped China develop its cruise missile program and most offensive of all tried to sell PHALCON to China. And then of course we have the "accidential" attack on the USS Liberty.

With friends like this, you don't need too many enemies.

The solution is stop attacking Israel
Redmanrt, your words “What was really going on in the speech conceived and written by others and read from a teleprompter was paving the way for abandoning Israel”
are frightening. It makes me sad to think that under one single US President the lives of 61,000,000 citizens of the world lost in WWII, 6 Million of them Jews exterminated in concentration camps alone, should come to this. I think the words “Never Again” mean nothing to our current President. I guess even if you graduate from one of the most prestigious private schools in America like Punahou, you can still come out knowing absolutely nothing about history. The problem is and always has been the Arab countries when it comes to Israel. The solution is simple--stop attacking Israel; but they refuse to do this. If we abandon Israel, then Hamas and Hezbollah will certainly take over the region. The blood will be on Obama’s hands, alone. Each decision this President makes vindicates Bush’s presidency/policies—which many predicted would be the case.

Pamela
"Israel's only ultimate hope is in God, and He will be her Savior. All nations will turn against Israel. But those within the nations who are true believers in Messiah must pay any price to serve the God who saves them - and who will save Israel. (Zech. 12 / Romans 11 / Matthew 23:39)"

Yeah...we've heard that song before, God really stepped in in 70 a.d. didn't he?


The Messiah
What we have elected is not the president of the U.S. but the great messiah. What a lying, conniving son of the devil.

Republicans need to start signing petitions, forming active groups, and, in general, make our voices heard.

Watch Glenn Beck 5EST on Fox News. The people he interviews and the narrative paint a clear picture of what is going on and where your voice might be heard.

Stupidity on steroids
The comment from DCR is 'Intolerable'

"....Obama's speech is the beginning of winning back the respect of the Arab and Muslim world, thank God...."
Obama he has no backbone in the face of opposition that he cannot buy or bully.

The arab world is not a monolith. The muslim world is not all arab. The majority of the 1.5 billion muslims do not care about what the US President says. They reject the way Americans live and they do not like our way of life. There will be no respect for the us when it is bought by the breaking of promises. ............................................. The muslim world does not respect weakness and weak leaders... Obama is showing weakness. Obama is inviting opposition not cooperation.......

The Palestinians have no reason to cooperate when they can get what they want by refusing to compromise.

Renee
"The solution is simple--stop attacking Israel; but they refuse to do this."

And if you lived in a Gaza refugee camp, you wouldn't think this was a very good choice of action. Surrender is always an option. The blacks in South Africa could have just accepted apartheid too. The APLA weren't exactly non-violent now were they (for disclosure I had a friend who was a former member of the APLA)? Recall their moto, one settler, one bullet?

"If we abandon Israel, then Hamas and Hezbollah will certainly take over the region."

And how long have you been on drugs? Israel with a nuclear stockpile the size of China's, one of the few countries in the world that fly the F15, they fly the AH-64, have heavy armor, and the like and Hamas? some small arms and some rockets...yeah, they sure will take over the whole region. And let us not forget God is on Israel's side too--the G-factor. Shiver shiver.

presidency/policies—which many predicted would be the case.

Krauthammer
Did you notice how Krauthammer put the needs of Israel above the needs of the U.S.?

Imagine my syurprise.

Akagi you want to argue
fine but if you insist on making fun of religious beliefs many will start flaging you as offensive. Or is it your intention to antagonize?

Ethnic Cleansing
In any other setting the removal of settlements would be called what it is; ethnic cleansing. The world cheered as every Jew was removed from Gaza. Hooray!!! But should anyone ever think that every Arab should be removed from pre-67 Israel … well the world would howl with righteous indignation at the evil Jews. Its all just common sence.

All you Jews … yes all of you … behind the green line … into the shtettle with you … and put on this yellow star.

Coach
"The arab world is not a monolith. The muslim world is not all arab. The majority of the 1.5 billion muslims do not care about what the US President says. They reject the way Americans live and they do not like our way of life. There will be no respect for the us when it is bought by the breaking of promises."

True, but they really don't care how Americans live or think. They hate America because of what America does, not what America is. This was pointed out by Michael Scheuer in a number of his books including his first, Imperial Hubris.


"...The muslim world does not respect weakness and weak leaders... Obama is showing weakness. Obama is inviting opposition not cooperation..."

Hardly.

"The Palestinians have no reason to cooperate when they can get what they want by refusing to compromise."

And compromise basically means surrender, surrender is always an option. Israel gets to keep all of Jerusalem, gets to keep settlements in the occupied territories, keeps to keep the IDF protecting the settlements along with the check-points making travel inside the territories hellish at best...that was what Camp David II would have given the Palestinians...not much of a deal now is it?

Obama's need for control..
Fortunately, Netanyahu is tough and Obama is delusional (no one is what this man thinks he is)..we'll have to see how this continues and plays out...vicitimization is also a delusional concept if viewed in the light of day.

Who is Obama?
All the signs were there, yet we let the media and unions steal the election. Liberals point the finger at Wall Street and Rich and call them greedy.

Liberals have a much more dangerous greed and that is the quest for ultimate power. When Pelosi ramrodded the spending bill and was asked if she consulted the right she said she didn't have to because "we won".

She's right, they won. Obama is and always been a Muslim. He is a card carrying communist. The unions donated more than McCains total spending for the election. Obama is the "Manchurian candidate". No one knows his true history yet the Obamatrons voted him in based solely on his ability to read a teleprompter. To paraphrase - I think there is a person in the woodpile.

What's Wrong With Obama
The MSM touts Obama as being so intelligent yet the reality is he does not know enough history to edit his own speeches being produced by a 27 year old whose real skill is assembling cliches and misinformation. The reason Obama sounds so naive is because he is. He is an embarrassment and threat to the United States. He now trades on his Muslim upbringing. This man continues to disrupt and destroy ala Alinsky and the MSM continues to adore him. Calling the U.S. the biggest Muslim country in the world should convince everyone he needs to be removed from office. He is NOT defending the Constitution and not protecting the U.S. . . .God help us.

Krauthammer
Imagine how despicable Krauthammer is.

He expects the U.S. to continue to give Israel billions and billions of dollars in aid along with state-of-the art miltary equipment and to always get involved in Israel's problems.

But the U.S. should not ask anything of Israel in return.

Charlie
"now that Barack Hussein has finally admitted he is Muslim..."

He has not. He has stressed his Muslim roots, not the same thing. Say an ABC (American-Born Chinese) as president say Gary Locke and he could go to China say a visit to Guangdong (where his family came from) and stress his Chinese or Cantonese roots, doesn't mean he is Chinese (meaning a citizen of the PRC) does it?

Saying basically "I have roots in the Muslim world...I understand you" doesn't mean I am Muslim. And why attack Obama for his Muslim roots and give Israel-firsters like Krauthammer a pass for his Jewish ones? If Obama is blinded by his Muslim ties, is Krauthammer immune from his onw pro-Jewish biases?

HUH?
As always in the world of those who "know better" than the rest of us, LOGIC NEED NOT APPLY. This kind of "solution" will strangle the life out of Israel, exactly what the Palestinians want. It's just a newer take on Hitler's "final solution".

Israelis have supported the "Palestinian" people for years and are more than willing to share, but Palestinians only want "Death to Israel". With that attitude, what kind of partnership can they ever have? It's not that the Palestinians want the land so much as they want Israel wiped off the face of the earth.

I guess God lied when He said "I give you this land as a possession FOREVER." Hint: He wasn't talking to the terrorists.

By the way, "Palestine" never was. It's a corruption of the name Phillistine, the ancient enemy of Israel. That name came from "Arian" anti-Semites who wished to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Hitler would be so proud.

Time to Wake Up
Whether anyone wants to believe it or not, the land Israel occupies was to be their land, according to who???????? God! And if that is not enough authority for you then try to take it away from them and see what happens! In fact from what I understand, they have already given up part of what was to be theirs.

And yes God loves the Palestanians too and wants good for them. And they would have it if they could live in peace. But those in their midst who just want to take back all of Israel from the jews, who hate them and want to see them wiped off the face of the earth, who teach and brain wash their children to hate and kill...you think God is going to honor that???

What is done in self defense is one thing. But when one nation tries to kill, steal, and destroy another nation just because they want to or for whatever reason they have, that is another matter.

Karen
"Calling the U.S. the biggest Muslim country in the world..."

Like to see a source where he said this, but if he did he is wrong that would be Indonesia with over 170 million Muslims. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the US, but there aren't 170 million of them in the US.


Rosemary
"That name came from "Arian" anti-Semites..."

The name dates as far back as the Romans and before 1948 there was never something called Israel (as a state), there was never a Malaysia either until it became independent, or a Singapore or a Indonesia or a United States. So since in 1945 there was never a state known as Indonesia, those in Indonesia had no right of self-determination? How about Tibet and Taiwan today?

Islam
Did you ever notice that is perfectly okay to call a nation an "Islamic country" but you cannot call any nation a "Christian country"?

No, Christian countries make accept immigrants from all over the world.

And then gush about how they "enrich" our lives.

For RoyinOslo
Based on your prior posts, I didn't think you could get any dumber. I was wrong. I bet your statement that "much of rural America thrives with low population and even negative growth. It's not the end of the world." is not based on personal experience. I lived for twelve years in a town of 6,000 next to the interstate in one of the poorest states in the union, New Mexico. If you didn't have a government job, you had no health benefits. There were few non-government jobs, mostly agriculture, cowboy, gas stations, motels, and restaurants (minimum wage), and a few small stores. Everyone else was on welfare. The people with money bought up all the houses and registered them with HUD, so we had a constant flow of losers from all over the nation, so I guess you could say we were growing-negative growth! The town spent the entire 12 years I was there with scheme after scheme to bring in jobs, but there is no workforce. The welfare people are all on drugs and won't work. The few kids that do graduate from high school leave. The town is full of gossips and backbiters. It needs a giant prozac. This is what it means for rural America to survive with negative growth. It is most definitely not THRIVING. It is a miserable place and way to live. (BTW, I had a government job.) If something is not growing, it's dying. Before I moved there, the town had a pop. of 12,000. Now I hear they are down towards 3.000. Thriving with negative growth, Roy? Thriving to the point of extinction. Idiot.

75% OF AMERICAN JEWS VOTED FOR OBAMA

.....If AMERICAN JEWS are comfortable voting for a MUSLIM sympathiser then apparently they feel no need to defend the homeland so why should Christian Americans be obligated? ...

.....Here's my solution to the Middle East problem ...we have a lot of Federal land in the Southwest so why not sell a tract about the size of Palestine to Israel and just move Jerusalum over here ...then the residents of Palestine can have their desert back and we will have the peace that the UN could never accomplish .....COLOSSUS

Game Set Match
Sir Charles, you're spot on. What we need is more spokesmen like you to point out Obama's heresy like Karl Rove did on Obama's spin on 300,000 saved jobs or as Ann coulter did on the USA ranking somewhere near 10th in the world in Muslim population. Obama is the greatest spin doctor since the man who uttered the phrase "The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."

Sheron
"Whether anyone wants to believe it or not, the land Israel occupies was to be their land, according to who???????? God"

And whose God is this? To quote Oolon Coluphid who is this God person anyway, Seems a good deal of debate on this is there not? And to quote Confucius "wei zhi sheng, yan zhi si" meaning "If you do not yet know about life, how can you know about death?" Analects 11:11.

And according to "God" the land of Israel includes in part or whole that modern states of Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Jordan and Iraq. Should these territories belong to Israel too?

"And they would have it if they could live in peace."

The communists defined peace as a time when there was longer any opposition to world communism. I guess to you peace is a time when those in Gaza will just accept the Middle Eastern version of Apartheid.

How to lose friends .
When in the world are we ever going to stop meddeling in other peoples business? Leave Isreal alone. We should be their true friend and ally by renouncing this constant micromanagement by Hillary clinton and that incrediable abortion known as the U.S. state dept. It seems as if our leadership knows nothing, while thinking they know everything. What a disaster. Regards, ARROW.

Herman
You go and find me a country that has as it's state religion as Christianity and we'll call it that.

Good column, except
What a great attack on Israelis policy of refusing to let arab neighborhoods in East Jerusalem grow through refusing to grant permits. After all, palestinians in East Jerusalem cannot be expected not to have children.

Oh wait, he isn't saying that Palestinians should have these things on the land they have occupied for centuries. He is saying that the Israelis should have these things on the land they have moved into recently.

I wonder why he thinks things that are basic rights of jews should not be thought to be basic rights of palestinians. Actually I don't wonder. Krauthammer's articles on Israel all make sense if one just pretends that the Palestinians aren't human beings. It is only when one remembers that they are that they turn out to be utter nonsense.

The truth is
we saved 5,000,000 Muslims from ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Serbia and still have 3 bases in Kosovo, where we lost 6 soldiers last year.

The truth is we saved 20,000,000 Kuwaitis from the oppression of Saddam Hussein and an aggressive Iraq.

The truth is we liberated 50,000,000 Muslims from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein and the Taliban in Ira\q and Afghanistan at the cost of thousands of US, British, and other coalition lives.

The truth is we have poured trillions into the Saudis for oil payments since the 1930s.

The truth is in return the Muslim world has offered us hostility, terrorism, and denial.

So, what new beginning does the King Elect think he can start? Give more of the ranch away as he has with the UAW, at the expense of pensions for NEA and PERS people?

Akaqi
Rosemary literally means the rose of Mary. Mary is the Latinization of the Hebrew name Miriam. In both languages it has the same meaning: bitterness, sorrow, tears. Hint: Mary also sounds like the Latin word for sea--salty tears?

God renamed Jacob "Israel", meaning Prince of God. Jacob's descendants have ALWAYS called themselves Israel for that reason. Since when do your enemies get to decide what your name is? Duh, because Israelis refused to accept the Roman emperor as God, the Romans called Israel "Palestine" as an insult. What is YOUR motive?

Arab hate
If they really hated us they could shut off our oil.They could sell it to the chinese.They won't,because the Chinese wouldn't pay their inflated prices.

Cherished Liberal Values
Being displayed by the Sail Eared Simpleton include Lying, Cheating and Cowardice. Netanyahu should get on a plane to DC and punch the Gutless Liberal Coward at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue right in the mouth!

...thank you...Geri#33 & Pamela#48
God is on the side of Israel!


neither obama nor islam will triumph.

Rev.14:20..they were trampled in the winepress
outside the city, and blood flowed out of the press, rising as high as the horses' bridles for a distance of 1600 stadia.

He who has an ear, let him hear!