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Friday, May 08, 2009
Charles Krauthammer :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Hamas 'Peace' Gambit
by Charles Krauthammer
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"Apart from the time restriction (a truce that lapses after 10 years) and the refusal to accept Israel's existence, Mr. Meshal's terms approximate the Arab League peace plan ... "
-- Hamas peace plan, as explained by The New York Times

"Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?"
-- Tom Lehrer, satirist WASHINGTON -- The Times conducted a five-hour interview with Hamas leader Khaled Meshal at his Damascus headquarters. Mirabile dictu, they're offering a peace plan with a two-state solution. Except. The offer is not a peace but a truce that expires after 10 years. Meaning that after Israel has fatally weakened itself by settling millions of hostile Arab refugees in its midst, and after a decade of Hamas arming itself within a Palestinian state that narrows Israel to eight miles wide -- Hamas restarts the war against a country it remains pledged to eradicate.

There is a phrase for such a peace: the peace of the grave.

Westerners may be stupid, but Hamas is not. It sees the new American administration making overtures to Iran and Syria. It sees Europe, led by Britain, beginning to accept Hezbollah. It sees itself as next in line. And it knows what to do. Yasser Arafat wrote the playbook.

With the 1993 Oslo accords, he showed what can be achieved with a fake peace treaty with Israel -- universal diplomatic recognition, billions of dollars of aid, and control of Gaza and the West Bank, which Arafat turned into an armed camp. In return for a signature, he created in the Palestinian territories the capacity to carry on the war against Israel that the Arab states had begun in 1948 but had given up after the bloody hell of the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

Meshal sees the opportunity. Not only is the Obama administration reaching out to its erstwhile enemies in the region, but it begins its term by wagging an angry finger at Israel over the Netanyahu government's ostensible refusal to accept a two-state solution.

Of all the phony fights to pick with Israel. No Israeli government would turn down a two-state solution in which the Palestinians accepted territorial compromise and genuine peace with a Jewish state. (And any government that did would be voted out in a day.) Netanyahu's own defense minister, Ehud Barak, offered precisely such a deal in 2000. He even offered to divide Jerusalem and expel every Jew from every settlement remaining in the new Palestine.

The Palestinian response (for those who have forgotten) was: No. And no counteroffer. Instead, nine weeks later, Arafat unleashed a savage terror war that killed 1,000 Israelis.

Netanyahu is reluctant to agree to a Palestinian state before he knows what kind of state it will be. That elementary prudence should be shared by anyone who's been sentient the last three years. The Palestinians already have a state, an independent territory with not an Israeli settler or soldier living on it. It's called Gaza. And what is it? A terror base, Islamist in nature, Iranian-allied, militant and aggressive, that has fired more than 10,000 rockets and mortars at Israeli civilians.

If this is what a West Bank state is going to be, it would be madness for Israel or America or Jordan or Egypt or any other moderate Arab country to accept such a two-state solution. Which is why Netanyahu insists that the Palestinian Authority first build institutions -- social, economic and military -- to anchor a state that could actually carry out its responsibilities to keep the peace.

Apart from being reasonable, Netanyahu's two-state skepticism is beside the point. His predecessor, Ehud Olmert, worshiped at the shrine of a two-state solution. He made endless offers of a two-state peace to the Palestinian Authority -- and got nowhere.

Why? Because the Palestinians -- going back to the U.N. partition resolution of 1947 -- have never accepted the idea of living side by side with a Jewish state. Those like Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who might want to entertain such a solution, have no authority to do it. And those like Hamas' Meshal, who have authority, have no intention of ever doing it.

Meshal's gambit to dress up perpetual war as a two-state peace is yet another iteration of the Palestinian rejectionist tragedy. In its previous incarnation, Arafat lulled Israel and the Clinton administration with talk of peace while he methodically prepared his people for war.

Arafat waited seven years to tear up his phony peace. Meshal's innovation? Ten -- then blood.

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Two states?
With "friends" like the US (current administration)Israel does not need any enemies! It is now time for Netanyahu to seek out other allies and to slowly disengage from the protectorate provided by the US. The Obama solution to two states, without a Palestine infrastructure in place, is suicide to Israel and it should be rejected. Maybe if Israel becomes a rogue nation comparable to Iran and North Korea with their interests in the fore and being antagonistic to the US maybe then the US would treat them differently. If Israel rolls over to the blandishments of the Obama administration then they deserve what results from their own stupidity.

Israel will survive Obama
Israel will survive the current administration just like it survived the Carter administration. The problem with Americans is they only listen to the Arabs in English but Israeli's also listen in Arabic. The reason Netanyahu was elected is to make sure Oslo doesn't happen again. Obama is also abandoning other traditional allies such as Britain,Poland and Czechoslovakia for being loyal to the US under the Bush Admin.. While Venezuela,Cuba and Iran are getting hugs and kisses from Obama. Israel will also be rewarded with disloyalty even though Israel is the only Democracy in the Middle East and has been a strong military ally until Obama is out of office.

Spell that "piece"
Neither Hamas nor any other element of greater Islam is interested in peace with Israel. Instead, they want to acquire bits and pieces of Israel until they have the whole thing with the Jews reduced to a memory.

Multiple Islamic voices over the years repeatedly have articulated this murderous policy. Why do western leaders persist in believing that Islam wants peace with Israel if only Isreal will be nice?

Unhapply, I've concluded that the only peace that will ensue in the middle east is, in fact, the peace of the grave -- for all of them.

OBAMA'S XMAS WARNING ON ISRAEL
Already the stupid little man in the White House is attempting to force Israel into a premature peace with the Palis. Rahm Emmanuel gave Netanyhau fair warning: don't attack Iran over its nukes until you first make concessions to your enemies in Gaza and the West Bank. In other words, until Israel gives the Obama administration a foreign policy victory it will have to run the risk of nuclear annihilation. When Obama promised a fresh innovative approach to the conflicts in the region he wasn't kidding.

Before Obama moves forward on a new roadmap to peace between Israel and the Palistinians he needs to recall the massive power blackout that hit Honolulu on the 6th day of his Christmas vacation just hours before Israel's invasion of Gaza to punish Hamas and put an end to the rocket attacks. As Christmas celebrates the nativity of Christ his birth took place in an Israel which including Gaza as its territory was occupied by a brutal Roman army that beat the Jews into submission in two terrible wars against religious zealots. This, in my view, was no mere coincidence: Gaza needs to be reoccupied by the IDF and Hamas thoroughly destroyed before there can be peace. The Christmas blackout in Honolulu was an ominous warning to Obama that engaging Israel's enemies and trying to force a premature peace before Hamas is defeated would run the risk of worsening the Palestinian/Israeli conflict and plunging the region into greater turmoil and darkness




Charles-You got it right!
Once again the problem is that we have an elected president who doesn't like democracy. It doesn't provide ambitious politicians enough power in it's current state so he needs to break with our allies and create a different system of government that will allow him to be the sort of leader his Dad would be proud of.

Both Houses are more than willing to comply because if they support him they stand to benefit from the new governments' power.It is immaterial to these power grabbers that they jeapardize the safety of the citizens they were elected to protect. So long as their social agendas aren't scaled back, they feel that the average voters will be with them and the "folks" will just have to follow along.

For a couple years, they are indead correct. They are going to have to be voted out of office. I pray that there are enough stalling techniques to keep Isreali's safe until we can get to a new election and shut the door on this Brave New World.

Hamas
After reading Charles Krauthammer's article, being someone passably sane, I would ask the question, "Who do they (Hamas) think theyre kidding? Except in the harsh reality of what the Obama Government's path toward destruction toward fundamental liberties, our economy and the destruction of Israel, how can a sane person not think they will go along with "peace", or that this is a "peace" they have duped themselves into believing in? I fear for Israel, but most of all I fear for ourselves.

Karen

Islam - "Silver Lining"
Joel-De Opresso Liber

I commend you on your realistic insights, yet momentum is on the side of Islam. They will conquer by demographics alone, soon.

Western "Civilization" has become so degraded and perverted that perhaps it isn't worth "saving" after all.
When Shariah laws arrive in Europe and shortle after in the US, all that has caused the moral and cultural demise of the "West" will simply fade away.

Women will be put in their "place" - pregnant and shut up.
Homosexuals better get back into their closets or be executed.
Media "dopes" executed for the most part.
Hollywood - no more.
Dopeheads - executed.
College "professors" - jailed, executed and persecuted until they conform.
No more extorsive interest rates, forbidden under sharia law.

So, what's so bad about the above?

Endgame
Doesn't Obama realize that Israel's enemies see "peace" as s step closer to eliminating Israel? I'm not sure he does.

What will be the endgame? If Obama isolates Israel and cuts off military aid (as I believe he secretly wants to do), then Israel may have no choice but to use nukes as its only chance for survival.

10 to 1
For every rocket that Hamas fires into Israel the Israelis should randomly lob 10 artillery shells into the Gaza Strip until the Palestinians get tired of dying and decide that Hamas just may not have their best interest at heart.

The Japanese coveted a 'Death before Dishonor' creed until they had a couple of nuclear weapons go off in their living room, then suddenly surrender didn't look too bad after all.

They became (and have been ever since) damn cooperative after that and had a very personal stake in achieving REAL peace.

Change happens when the pain of holding on is greater than the pain of letting go.

As far as I'm concerned there already is a Palestinian state, it's called Jordon, except that it's not run by the Palestinians,who are in the majority, it's controlled by the Hashemites of King Abdullah.

I wonder why the Liberals aren't crying for justice to be done in Jordon for the poor oppressed Palestinians like they did against the apparteid polices of South Africa?

Oh yeah, I just remembered, the Liberals live in a world of perpetual double-standard.

Joel-De O et al: If you've not yet

seen this video... it's well worth your time.

"What Islam is NOT"
http://vodpod.com/watch/987394-what-islam-is-not



Would you enlighten me?
How is it that the American Jewish community overwhelming supported obuma in the last election? I believe that outside of a Jew with relatives there Israels most strident supporter in the world is the American Christian Right. Did I miss something? They voted for a half muslim appeaser with no love for Israel. How come? Do they not know who their friends are?

Thomas
I have a friend who has lived and worked in Japan for years. He told me all the little children hold up two fingers when they see an American. They are taught this by the old people and it isn't a peace sign but mean's "two" for each bomb and "we owe you."

The fact that the world is shoving Israel to accept suicide by two states is part of God's plan. Read the Book - it explains everything.

Two State Solution
Much of what Charles says is correct. The arabs are not trustworthy parners for peace. The Israelies have their problems as well. They are still building settlements on the West Bank that they then must defend with soldiers and fences. Settlements which for decades got special financial treatment from the Israeli government.

As we General Petrius showed us in Iraq, going after terrorists is a losing strategy. You must create peace and stability for the general population and that cannot happen as long as there are settlements. Just as Hamas could win over the palistinians by providing services, so could the Israelis. The settlements are not necessary to Israel's security in fact quite the opposite. Israel could continue to contraol the area militarily and build a fense that closes the border to Israel proper.

The mistake in Gaza was in withdrawing completely. Funds to help the Palistians should flow threw the Isreali government that could use it as a carrot to seduce palistians to reject terrorism in exchange for an improved quality of life.

Thomas
The US military probably threw a 1000-1 at the terroists in Iraq and it did not work. You can never erradicate a terrorist army that way. The only way to do it is to bribe the populas to reject them.

cross-reference with Schweid
Everyone who reads this article by Mr. Krauthammer would be wise to also read and cross-reference its content with today's Townhall news article by Barry Schweid, "Analysis: Obama charts active role in Mideast":

http://townhall.com/news/politics-elections/2009/05/08/anal ysis_obama_charts_active_role_in_mideast

These two journalistic lenses focused on the current situation, taken together, help deepen perspective on the topic. Thanks to both writers.


Israel
Israel is God's chosen people and He is their protection. In the last days Israel will stand alone against its enemies and God will come to her rescue. Its in The Book.

As a Bush supporter I can say, this is not just Obama's mistake. George W Bush and his father pushed Israel toward the so called Road Map to Peace, better known as Israel's Suicide Pact. As Bob Dylan sang, there are none so blind as those who cannot see. For some reason our last several administrations are blind to the true nature of the Arab and Iranian plans for Israel. Destruction. The further amazement about this is that they come right out and say so. Why we don't believe them is way beyond me.

God made this promise to Abram when he promised to make him a great nation, he who blesses you I will bless, he who curses you I will curse. He wasn't kidding.

Upland William
Of course they resent the idea of Israel. It flies in the face of the idea that theirs is a superior religion. But that is not the point. Cause frankly the arab counties don't like each other very much.

The point is that the current strategy is not working for Israel. The status quo sucks for them and will only get worse as the palistinians out birth them in the next 40 years.


Obama's Wars
If you want a funny discourse on Obama's need to be loved, go here http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-wants-to- be-loved.html

And if you want to read a FUNNY take on Obama the Warmonger, this is it!! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-lord-of-w ar.html

Geri
And tell us what fate awaits the chosen people of Israel in the end of days who continue to follow their faith and reject the idea of christ as their savior?

Admit it you see the Jews as pawns destined for distruction in a rapture. If I were an Israelie I would say, thanks but no thanks. You are no true friend.

Joe
Racially (phony, there is no Jewish race), culturally, and religiously, American Jews support Israel. Politically, they overwhelmingly support Marxism/Socialism. Our election was a political contest between a Communist and a Capitalist--Jews proved they would vote for a Black, Muslim, non-citizen if he openly wore the mantle of Communism. It is no more complicated than that.

Peace Gambit
Excellent writing, as usual, Charles.

I never understood why so any American Jews could vote for Obama. Now Israel will also pay the price, just like the rest of us.

JMO51
I don't normally respond to those whose ideology blinds them to facts, but your grasp of history and current events in Israel needs improvement.

1. Israel does funnel money to the Arabs. When they stopped sending the funds, trying to force better behavior, the "enlightened" nations of the world jumped all over them (as usual).

2. It was Israel which stopped military actions in Gaza in order to ensure food and medicine was delivered to Gaza. Even Egypt wasn't delivering food and medicine to the people in Gaza.

3. The PLO and Hamas have been raising the children, for decades, with the idea that their mission in life is to kill Jews. A very popular story is the one about how Allah will command the very stones to shout There is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.
Of course you can reason with people like this. Not.

Are all residents of Gaza and the West Bank engaged in hostile acts against Jews? No, but they know better than to attempt to stop those who are. They value their life, and there is no advantage (in Islam) for a believer to stop another believer from attacking a non-believer. Islam commands the attack on non-believers, not 'Turn the Other Cheek".

Muhammad's Real Estate
Under Islamic Law the absolute principle of "Once Muslim, always Muslim" is over riding in Palestinian thought and action. This principle applies to dirt, Real Estate--in the mind's eye of all Palestinians the entire Middle East has been Muslim--that cannot be changed. Muhammad taught that and he cannot change that--he is dead. Anwar Sadat tried to change that by recognizing Israel's right to exist--Sadat was assassinated by elements within his own Army. There will be no peace in the Middle East, unless or until, Israel uses its nuclear arsenal to defeat their threatening antagonist---even then it is a crap shoot.

CORRECTION
Before Obama moves forward on a new roadmap to peace between Israel and the Palistinians he needs to recall the massive power blackout that hit Honolulu on the 6th day of his Christmas vacation just hours before Israel's invasion of Gaza to punish Hamas and put an end to the rocket attacks. As Christmas celebrates the nativity of Christ his birth took place in ancient Israel which including Gaza as its territory was occupied by a brutal Roman army that beat its rebelious inhabitants into submission in two terrible wars lead by religious zealots. This, in my view, was no mere coincidence: Gaza needs to be reoccupied by the IDF and Hamas thoroughly destroyed before there can be peace. The Christmas blackout in Honolulu was an ominous warning to Obama that engaging Israel's enemies and trying to force a premature peace before Hamas is defeated would run the risk of worsening the Palestinian/Israeli conflict and plunging the region into greater turmoil and darkness.

Postscript

So that I'm not misunderstood, what I mean is that the Islamic zealots of Hamas have about as much chance in defeating Israel as had the ancient Jewish zealots in liberating their country from Roman rule. After two crushing defeats the Jews in time came to accept the Pax Romana as God's will. Hopefully the Palestinians after enough tragedy and suffering will realize the hopelessness of their cause and accept Israel's right to exist as Allah's' will.




Thanks Charles and your commentors
This was (as Charles always does) a brilliant read. I also want to thank all of the brilliant comments I have read here as well, especially those by Joel-De Oppresso Liber. I am well aware of the true agenda of Islam and continue to learn. It seems that God is hardening Obama's heart just as He did that of Pharaoh's. The true living God will prevail. Of that I am certain.

Anne wrote
Watch the video (at Vodpod).

Unfortunately the video has been taken down. The notice states that PRO TV SA has claimed copyright to the video.

I found the video here:

http://perfectlyhuman.multiply.com/video/item/8

Palestinian State Downside
Once Palestine becomes a State and is recognized as such by other states and the UN. Palestine will enter into treaties for mutual protection, make open Arms deals with other Arab States, be free to get monetary aid and assistance from anyone they can persuade, let other nations openly use their docks and ports, provide military basing options as they wish, and get a full seat at the table of nations. Israel will no longer face rock throwing teenagers, Israel will face a fully armed ally of many other Muslim , Israel, hating nations. That will radically change the dynamic in the Middle East.

God Help Us
Thank you, Charles Krauthammer, for your article. I pray you and others like you will continue to voice your concerns and point out inconsistencies and deceit from the Obama administration. I feel a revolution coming, a rising up of people of moral and ethical values. Many of us are aware that the pendulum has swung far too far to the left and a correction is necessary. Despite the denial from Pelosi, et al, it is coming from the grass roots and has started with the tea parties. It will grow from there.

Obama, The Non-US Citizen,
gave the Palestinians $900 BILLION of our money!

Israel needs to do what it needs to do without listening to the Arabists in the State Dept. Israel needs to act in its own self-interest which is not the same as the Muslim Obama's.

Joel
Me thinks the verse in Jude is more revealing about God's intent towards Pharoa

This could end some day..
I think it would be interesting to know what Obama's real intentions are in this matter..when it comes to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq..he has to be relatively above board...but sincerity is not exactly in his vocabulary and his interests are too based in his own personal power...which means placing everything and everyone a good distance below him..look what he's done so far. I'm glad that Netanyahu is tough..I don't think he'll let Obama or his "people" push him or manipulate him into areas that he knows won't work. I'm not too sure how Obama views the terrorist threats..it could be at everyone's expense...Instead of the rock star adulation that he's grown to expect it would be nice to see someone stand up to him and confront him in ways that he needs to hear.

JMO51 & Roadmaster
Newsflash - It was only after five years of continous warfare, death and destruction that the Germans and Japanese decided that enough was enough...no bribes there, just a reformed attitude of 'Please stop killing us, we'll do whatever you want us to do."

It took about 5 years for the Iraqis to have the same transformation. After we destroyed, and I mean DESTROYED the city of Fallujah at the begining of the Surge, the common man got an entirely differnt attitude known as cooperation.

That's what has brought about the transformation in Iraq.

Suddenly the carrot of peace looked one heck of a lot more appealing than the stick of destruction.

As for the Japanese children story, that's really cute but I have never once seen it myself or ever heard anybody but your friend ever say such things.

Consider your sources, I am.

Maybe I'll worry when the Japanese start producing a nuclear weapon, but until then I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

As for the Good Book...may God's Will be done.

Prophecy on course
Neither Israel nor its misled, confused, sometimes ally, the USA, is ready for what is to come; but come it will, for it is prophesied. In the short term, Jerusalem and Israel will be divided, and a peace treaty will ensue. After 3-1/2 years the Muslims will break the peace; but by that time the Obanation will be out of office and a severely weakened Christian America will nonetheless come to Israel's aid. God Almighty will ensure Israel's victory and subsequent pure theocratic rule under the true promised Messiah. The myth of Jesus/messiah/grace will become obvious to all but the terminally brainwashed; evangelical Christians and half-hearted Jews will convert en masse to Levitical Judaism/obedience. Many will emigrate from the English-speaking countries into the newly depopulated tribal territories of present-day Israel, the West Bank, Jordan, and also into newly-depopulated areas from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates.

Obama's support for muslim terrorists
No one should be surprised that Obama's administration has offered support and financial aid to our enemies like Hamas. The dem party leaders have been anti-American in their policies for years. The goal of Obama's socialist agenda is to weaken US sovereignty and military power and submit US control to the corrupt jackasses at the UN. The future of the US and Israel looks bleak with the "false prophet of change" in charge.

Joel-De Opresso NV 8:06
It seems to me that America is incapable of having a common sensical "choice"...judging by it's track record over the past few decades.
We are indeed well on our way to have Muslims make our choices for us.

Disgusting Waste of Tax Dollars
Palestine is not one iota interested in 'peace.' She is interested in murdering Jews. This has been seen time and time again, most recently when Israel foolishly gave away the Gaza Strip. The Palestinians have a rich history of death and destruction where ever they have settled and this tradition is unlikely to change; even the Arab nations have been unable to modify this behavior which is the reason that 'Palestine' is situated where it is today. I do find it interesting that the American Jews support a man who apparently has no more regard for the Israeli Jews than he does the American people; this is a shameful situation for the United States and a dangerous situation for Israel. The fact that Barack Obama squandered American tax dollars on a bunch of murderous Palestinians is worse than disgusting, it is nearly criminal. I guess this is yet another aspect of Obama's reign of terror that can be scrutinized when he leaves office. I fear there will be much scrutiny of him.

we love ISRAEL
PRAY FOR ISRAEL.THE US NEEDS TO STAND WITH ISRAEL FOR EVER.

we love ISRAEL
PRAY FOR ISRAEL.THE US NEEDS TO STAND WITH ISRAEL FOR EVER.

Basic problem goes back
to British awarding to dubious "helpers" such as Abdul Aziz ibn Saud, and crimelord Haj-amin Husseini after WW1 with authority.

Specifically Husseini, who was given (though unqualified by education) the title/authority of Jerusalem Mufti, and who turned out to be a vitriolic anti-Jew of viperous mindset (which he showed by causing anti-Jewish riots, then going over to Hitler of Germany to install him as Sultan in exchange for aiding Hitler's "final solution"). Arafat, selected as Husseini's successor (as very unelected "leader") never gave up the idea that Husseini's word to Hitler as sacred--an idea which the leaders of Hamass were also quick to embrace.

Possibility of peace with Edomites/Amalekites ("Palestinians" are descendants of these)? absolutely nil!

Sometime
the war must be won before peace can be established. To think that is not the case here is nothing more than the triumph of wish fulfillment over reality. While it might enable those who revel in their sense of moral superiority to feel good about themselves, the slavish pursuit of peace deals with those who will not honor them only makes the day of recconing more painful. Best to get it done before Iran gets it's nukes.

Jewish Democrats
My Jewish father used to proudly tell me that Jews were smarter than goys. He was convinced of the intellectual superiority of Jews. Now we see most US Jews supporting the Obamunists who are clearly dedicated to the destruction of Israel and the murder of the SIX MILLION Jews who live there. While Barak and Hillary suck up to the murderous barbarians who control Syria and Iran and who scheme every minute to kill every Jew in Israel and wipe that beleaguered sliver of democracy from the face of the Middle East Obamunist spokesmen are applauded at AIPAC seminars. Torrents of cash flow into the coffers of Islamic terrorist allies like Sheik Schmucky Schumer, Abu Waxman and Carl ibn Levin from these Jewish idiots who are apparently OK with a second Holocaust. George Soros, the ultimate Jew-hating-Jew, who curiously survived the Holocaust in Hungary, and who works every minute to support the Islamo-terrorists, is honored in the Jewish community. This is as sickening as black people supporting the Soviet and Cuban mass murder of black people in Ethiopia in the 1980's (they sang 'We Are The World' and handed millions of dollars to the murderers). So, I'm sorry Dad, Jews are pretty stupid; working to hand a death sentence to every Jew in Israel by supporting its enemies and happily supporting the destruction of freedom and legality in this country by supporting a pack of vicious Stalinists. Didnt the sermons of the delightful Rev Wright mean anything to you Rootless Cosmopolites? The left hates Jews.

HATE FOR ISRAEL IN TEXAS SCHOOLS
dr yana bland, supt of the katherine anne porter charter school of wimberley texas indoctrinates her high school students. she resently sent a letter to students homes, reminding them NOT to forget that just a few months ago israel illegally bombed palestine with weapons given to them by the united states, that killed 288 children. she was interviewd on austin tx rado station KLBJ 590. she said that she was't indoctrinating students!!!

Jewa? Smart??
They handed their money over to Madoff, they fanatically support social security and its 1 per cent interest rate, they refused to believe Hitler's book Mein Kampf and went like sheep to the ovens. There are plenty of smart people who are Jews, but they are not smart because they are Jews. On the other hand, the goys are not showing much in the way of smarts, either. I guess most people are just stupider than average, as my platoon sergeant used to say.

Egon of 7:45
You know, i believe you are absolutely right. Why resist? Let Sharia take over. Praying 5 times a day is a small price to pay for all those benefits. I admit i do intend to cheat on the Koran a little bit and use toilet paper instead of a rock.

TEACHING HATE FOR ISREAL
dr yana bland, supt of katherine anne porter charter school in wimberley texas, sent letter to home of students reminding them NOT to forget that just a few months ago ISRAEL illegally bombed palestine with weapons given to them by the united states killing 288 children. she was interviewed on KLBJ 590 radio station, austin tx. she said she wasn't indoctrinating students against jews.

Kumbaya
This is a perfect example of the left's attitude toward foreign policy. It's based on the belief that neither side really wants to harm the other and they just misunderstand each other. It leads to complete reliance on negotiaiton. Where this attitude becomes a trap is its assumption that the other side is as honorable, rational, and honest as we are. This allows them to sell valuable allies down the river and support groups like Hamas which will never abandon its crusade to eliminate Israel.

I see a parallel
. . . with the Palestinians and our own leftist democrat party.

Democrats are committed to enlarging its base sufficient to achieving a permanent majority, thereby creating a one-party American government -- through amnesty (and the chain migration to follow), increased unionization, and the "progressive" judicial-academic-media complex.

Democrats have no more intention of sharing power with what they think of as a reactionary republican party than the Palestinians have of living peacefully with Israel through a two-state solution.

It is little wonder, then, that our new president cozies up to dictators: he's among his own kind.

Palestine
It's amazing to me that the U.S. keeps sending money to help the Palestinians. Arafat received hundreds of millions to rebuild his country. Where did it go. Palestine (Gaza et al) is still a slum, but Arafat lived a grand lifestyle. Now Obama is going to send many millions to Gaza, just when they need money to rearm. It's time for Isreal to carpet bomb Gaza. But, they won't because they value human life whereas the Palestinians do not. They don't even value Palestinian life. The U.S. government needs to support Israel in whatever action they deem necessary in protecting their women and children, because that is the target of the Palestinians. And if Dr yana bland is truly concerned about Palestinian children maybe she will encourage Hamas and Hezbollah to stop firing rockets into Israel which are targeting Israeli women and children. Or, maybe she would tell Hamas not to hide their weapons in schools and hospitals and hide behind children to fight. Or maybe she is just another empty shell exporting Hamas hate.

Peace
Just a final thought, there will never be a peace in the middle east without VICTORY. So, if Israel wants peace then they have to soundly defeat Hamas and Hezbollah.

With friends like these...
Anti-semitism sure seems to be making a comeback these days. There is an eerie familiarity to it. Just reading a few comments here is enough to creep anyone out.

Israel should not trust the U.S. any longer with Obama at the celebrity helm. Jews who voted for Obama should have their heads examined, and their Israeli citizenship revoked, if they have it.

The world would condemn a nuclear strike against Israel, past tense. The liberal elite would discuss it over coffee, regarding the sad and tragic ending of Israel...and somehow find a way to blame Bush. The LA Times, still withholding a video of "The One" speaking at a Palestinian Dinner, would cover the story, and sell a lot of newspapers.

I'm afraid Israel is on its own. It has only false friends, but very real enemies. I hope Netanyahu understands this. Israel may need our support, but they don't really have it. In the end, no pun intended, they will have to come out swinging or they will end up as yesterdays news, their so-called 'friends' lamenting their passing, yet again.

Grim
TalkdToDeath.com

Watch the Vatican - Roman redux?
Rocky Shoals #1 wrote

"It is now time for Netanyahu to seek out other allies and to slowly disengage from the protectorate provided by the US"


the Vatican has long wanted control of religious sites in Israel and now the Pope is going to Israel and Jordan May 8-15

If they(the Vatican) do get control then they(the EU as well) would be in a position and have an obligation to defend them
---------------------------
Peres Presses for Cave-In to Vatican?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131179
"President Shimon Peres is pressuring Interior Minister Eli Yishai to sign away six properties demanded by the Vatican, including Mt. Tabor and a church in Nazareth, according to IDF Army Radio.
"
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Foreign Ministry Denies Plan to Hand Over Mt. Zion Site

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131081
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Vatican Presses for Possession of Jerusalem Sites
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=6155.4574.0.0

"Peres’s move to speed the handover of parts of Jerusalem to the Vatican is no mere whim. Peres has been Israel’s key personality involved in negotiations with the Vatican for going on two decades. Just three days before the signing of the Oslo Accords on Sept. 13, 1993, then-Foreign Minister Peres, together with then-Deputy Foreign Minister Yossi Beilin, signed a secret deal with the Vatican promising to hand over sovereignty of Jerusalem’s Old City to the Vatican, according to the Italian newspaper La Stampa. This deal was then included in the secret clauses of the Oslo Accords. "


Thank You, Charles
Great column. So good to read your common sense and truthfulness.

Cheers also to those who posted here in support of Israel. It's truly good to see that there are so many who have not been deceived and brainwashed and stand for the truth.

I would disagree though, about the Jews in this country being "stupid" as one poster said, because of supporting the democrat party over and over (and especially under Obama!). I've wondered about this incessantly. The only explanation is that it is a kind of blindness. It's temporary, and they will wake up when the scales finally drop from their eyes.

They have to, because Obama will betray them, totally. He's already in the process. He has no intention of standing by or protecting Israel in any way, shape or form. He's too preoccupied with trying to make Israels' enemies like him.

He will regret it. But we will regret it also. God and Israel make a majority. Israel will not be destroyed, but it will not bode well for the US when we abandon her. As for those who come against her, read Ezekiel.

Peace in the Middle East
It's easy. You take the money out of it. The idiots of the West paid Arafat 500 million dollars a year "to help" the peace process. Who in their right mind would want peace when they are getting 500 million a year. I consider myself a peaceful man, but I don't think I would want peace if I was getting 500 million year and knew the money would end as soon as "peace" happened.

People who say there can never be peace in the Middle East have to be racist towards Jews or Arabs because philosophically the only reason there couldn't be peace in the Middle East is if one or the other was genetic incapable of it. I don't think any rational person thinks this.

But I do know quite a few who think America's and Europe's policies have prolonged the war and exacerbated the violence. No one remembers, but it was Clinton who inflamed the violence by making it a big deal once again. Violence had been down. Then it spiked. When Clinton was in office Arafat knew violence=money.

Why do Jewish People vote for Dems &
especially why did they vote for Pres BO? It must be tradition. Like I told my democrat father who was the most conservative person I ever knew & who lived over 100 years. The democrat party left him over 40 years ago with all the social give-a-way programs of LBJ. My father apparently gave credit, undeserved credit, to FDR for saving the US from the 1930's depression. The press was so favorable for FDR that few knew that he actually prolonged the depression by 7 long years. Government intervention does that!

I think the democrat party have left the Jews and Israel behind. Pres BO is financially supporting Hamas and Plaistine to the detriment of Israel & the US. I fear it is up to Israel to help themselves. They are on their own with Pres BO. Good luck. Plaistinian leaders just want to kill. The leaders are a pathetic gang that has no future to offer their own people.

Hitler hated Jews and Communists...
Why do you dim-witted liberals think that is? Have you ever had a thought pass what passes for a mind that wasn't about your own selves?

For the ignorant, Hitler was a Fascist who believed in many of the same theories that your hero Obama believes in. He believed that to help the German people out of their economic doldrums he had to take over the banks and manufacturing industries of Germany. Obama, like he, didn't really take over the everyday operations, but he did give monetary support and appointed only CEO's who were sympathetic to him.

Hitler also was a charismatic speaker, but unlike Obama, he spoke from his speech-writer's notes, not a teleprompter (believe me, if they had those, he would have used them). He was able to hypnotize masses in person. Obama is able to do that on television, and in his personal appearances. He is soooooo cool! **at least to the ignorant and gullible.**

All tryants and dictators have their own methods of winning the public over, but there is always a common thread that run through their personalities -- government control of society. Why? because they believe that they have all the answers to society's ills. But they have all been proved to be wrong.

Hitler hated Marxists (Communists) only because they represented a threat to his own brand of politics (Nazism). He hated Jews because they represented wealth, liberty, and freedom which he could not easily control. He, of course, took it to the extreme by physically trying to elimintate everyone who was not a pure Aryan (even though he was half-Jewish himself).

Obama is not a native born American and as such has very little basic knowledge of Americana. His minister (The Rev. Wright) didn't preach the gospel of love, rather he preached the hatred of whites, and the hatred of capitalism. He preached the love of equality and justice which all sound so good and noble, but are the root of all evil in this country. Anyone dare to say I'm wrong?


I am struck by the threads I've read...
that Fascism is alive and well in the world today. Obama and his minions are carrying out most of the tenents of Hitler's Meinn Kamphf against captilalism and Jews. Hitler's vision of a New World Order (The Third Reich) is thriving in the mind of Obama today. Sadly, it isn't only Obama whose mind is eaten up with these false ideologies...Both Bushes were obviously thinking about a New World Order, only not on the same grand scale as Obama. The rumors keep rumbling about the UN being the center of this New World Order keep getting louder and louder. Life today is like some kind of Lord of The Rings saga where evil powers are determined to defeat all that is good.

Bubba's Back!!!
Mr. Krauthammer's editorial was brilliant and, although he didn't say so, the whole diatribe in this thread smacks of the Clinton White House and the media coverage of Arafat, et al. Israel has remained a steadfast ally in the middle east against enormous obstacles and under abhorrent conditions. Not all of them brought by the Israeli government. To a degree, the Jewish people suffer in silence and with dignity. Once again, Charles Krauthammer has stated the Israeli position succinctly and supported his facts. I look forward to watching him and hearing his opinions on Fox News. He is a breath of fresh air not voiced on the biased Obamarama media.

Grim - As in his location's outlook ...
... is afraid Israel is on its own.

Insofar as goes its relationships with other governments, Israel has always been on its own, has always known so -- and has planned accordingly.

Grim points out, again correctly, that, among the world's governments, Israel has only false friends -- but very real enemies.
And he may bet his very last Bippy that Mr Bibi, only too damned well and from unimaginably painful experience, understands this.

Israel may need our feral gummint's support -- but doesn't -- and in the end never actually could -- count on having it.
But from the beginning and ever after Israel can count on the support of every thinking lover of Freedom in America -- and anywhere on G-d's Good Green Earth!

Because as goes Israel, so go us all.

Including those of us who both perfectly understand the awesome responsibility of being a Sovereign American and who resolutely and absolutely stand in defense of the Principle involved, that of Individual Liberty. At home and in and with our number one ally, the Nation of Israel, including in Judea, in Samaria, in the Golan and in Gaza.
While being as absolutely determined to neither be identified with nor pretend to be represented by the obscene predatory pack of RICO-racketeering, lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering Stalinist street-agitating Chicago gangsters (AKA "the administration") and their drugged-up Svengali-led by the coked-up nose marijuana-mumbling moronic mobbed-up Mussolini-modeled modified-Marxist murtadd-Muslim empty galabia, Mister Michelle Jeremiah Wright Bernadine Bill Dohrn Saul Ayres Alynsky Frank Marshall Davisubambi: -- AKA "the FasciSSocialist Psychopathology-projecting election-stealing temporary besquatter and bemanurer of of our beloved fraternal republic's once most hallowed house."

The Nation of Israel may, that is, count on the American Nation: may depend upon We, the People.

Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles CalifUBAMBIcated 90028
And the Far Abroad

We Can't Survive Without Israel!
The ONE Nation we must never fail is Israel. I truly feel for that poor country who is always being attacked. I pray that we never turn our back (completely) on them, because if we do, we are damned.

Great piece, keep it up!

I rise to differ
"Not only is the Obama administration reaching out to its erstwhile enemies in the region..."

Really?? I don't see the Obama functionaries reaching out to Israel at all.

What I do see is their reaching out to OUR enemies, glumly but steadily preparing to throw OUR ally Israel into that now very crowded space under the bus.

The United States and the Obama administration do not have the same enemies in the Middle East. And when Obama's friends there take advantage of his tenure and jump on our friends the Israelis, the latter can expect as much support from this C-in-C as Gerald Ford was able to offer the South Vietnamese in 1975 when the North threw the Paris Accord out the window and invaded. With one exception: Ford actually wanted to help Saigon.


+++

Did you know?
That Obarfa just ordered 20.3 million dollars
to the HAMAS!!??? It passed w/in the last few days! HR1388 I belive? If you want more info..give me an e mail address I will forward it to you!
This SOLDIER of SATAN(OBAMA) has to go!!
Bye-Bye America if this excrete isn't removed!
Elvis

I fear Israel is near end ...

And we as well...

Didn't a certain Messiah promise to return 'before' the Jewish tribes ran out of places to run to?

If that be, what place is left to run?

They (the Jews) can run only toward the United States. Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, Canada, Mexico, do not want them.

And should Obama reject their passage -as his iced heart truly desires- what then?

Does he (Obama) ignore scripture, and in doing so bring scripture to it's conclusion?

Will we be sorted soon?


Israel peace = Islam's death
The only peace will come when finally out of frustration Israel finally removes all the Islamist's. No other solution is possible. A rabid doge is always a threat until it has been put down. If I were them I would remember this fact as well should the rest of the world.

The Hamas 'Peace' Gambit -
Re: "Would you enlighten me?"... Yes, we know who our friends are and my co-religionists who voted for Osama Obama will come to regret their decision. I live in Northern Nevada where we are more like our brethren in Israel. We vote conservative, support the Second Amendment, support our troops, have CCWs (concealed weapon permits) and carry guns. We generally look upon our ultra-left wing cousins in NY and California as being brain washed or brain-dead when it comes to doing what is best for America and Israel. We have not swallowed the "global-warming" B/S and we oppose the Government bailout. So please, don't lump all American Jews together by asking if we know who our friends are!

Do we know who our friends are?
Re: "Would you enlighten me?"... Yes, we know who our friends are and my co-religionists who voted for Osama Obama will come to regret their decision. I live in Northern Nevada where we are more like our brethren in Israel. We vote conservative, support the Second Amendment, support our troops, have CCWs (concealed weapon permits) and carry guns. We generally look upon our ultra-left wing cousins in NY and California as being brain washed or brain-dead when it comes to doing what is best for America and Israel. We have not swallowed the "global-warming" B/S and we oppose the Government bailout. So please, don't lump all American Jews together by asking if we know who our friends are!

On Fareed Zakharia
According to another school of thought, Mr. Zakaria's, "everybody knows" what needs to happen for a lasting peace.

But Mr. Zakaria is prejudiced. He is in favor of things that are at odds with Charles's reasoning here, which is a no non-sense, hardball-Israeli-hawk form.

As usual, I find Dr. K extremely persuasive. I'm wondering what George Mitchell and Dennis Ross, both separately, and together, would have to say. I wonder what Bill Clinton would have to say. He watched in agony as Arafat turned down the best offer in history.

Finally, What would Jimmy Carter say? Well, he has a new book on this very subject, a work that is not likely to go down well with the new regime in Israel: "We Can Have Peace in the Holy Land" or somesuch is the title. Carter has had the guts to actually go over there and talk directly with the extremists. He has also been a mediator in this history, albeit perhaps not totally "objective." Be that as it may, his experience and integrity should be listened to and discussed.

Bill
Amen my brother.

Keep it up...
yThis is one more comment from me on this article. This article to my recollection..is the most comprehensive that Charles K. has written on the subject. I feel that he feels that there isn't a lot of concern about Israel or the peace treat subject in this country. He writes so well on anything..this of course being very close to him... that him providing such necessary details will only reveal the truths that surround this difficult problem..and help mitigate the fear that so many Jewish people carry with them so much of the time. I find Charles to be a standard bearer by nature...he can help this situation in this country to a far greater extent and might see this issue open up more within time. Facts usually trump feelings when it comes to matters like this..and his facts are clear, excellent and intelligently placed. I really feel that more people would like to find more of a way out of the confusion that surrounds this problem as well as the confusion that plagues Israel period. Israel needs the right kind of support.

Israel is Nothing...!
Israel is nothing...it is everything in the minds of Islam. Jerusalem and its holy hill was the location its prophet had arisen to heaven. Muslims will die a thousand deaths to kill one Jew, which is their peace. Ten years or times ten years make no difference--it is a fight to the death. This is a great stage for the Obama Administration to advance the "Anointed One's" claim.

Bill, NV
Thankful for your reply. Like Eugene, I too would offer my Amen to my Brother.

Rock and a hard place
Netanyahu finds himself in a difficult position. With the U.S. no longer a reliable ally, Western Europe and the EU no help he may have to make a move to solidify Israel's position on his own before Iran and others become too powerful. I'm afraid that the Obama administration is setting up a new world order that has no place to go except another world war down stream. Maybe soon or maybe about the time Obama's children are of age to pay the price for these mistakes.

Israel backed into a Corner
Israel may have to go for it which would mean they would have to diminish Iran which appears to be the main source of all their troubles and risk that they could survive the onslaught from Hamas and Hezbollah.

The situation is getting closer to a major war, as Israel will see that only at the moment of its imminent eradication will the US rally to its side.

Carie - Surely you jest
"We can't survive without Israel"

Israel is the albatross around the neck of the
U.S. If Israel were populated by hungry, destitute Jews, do you really think Israel would
be even a passing thought among politicians?
Follow the money, you idiots.

Christians find Jews distasteful - they just hate Muslims more than they hate Jews.

Lilly: How would you know???????
"Christians find Jews distasteful - they just hate Muslims more than they hate Jews."

You are not a Christian, what makes you think you have any clue about what you think we think?????

It is called projection, and it is a characteristic of "liberal" thought. You tend to assume that our emotional makeup is the same as yours, so you assume that we hate.

When we disagree with you and stand up for what we believe, YOU interpret that as hate.

As my Tae Kwon Do instructor says when something is wrong:
FIX IT!

Change how you feel, think and do. Or not, I don't care!

Who's to blame?
Every time Hamas breaks the peace agreements, sympathizers from all over the world rushes to bring humanitarian aid to the civilians Hamas parades for the media to see in hopes of getting the United Nations and the world to condemn Israel. Everyone knows this will happen every six months or whenever the next peace agreements expires. Hamas plays the sympathizers, the United Nations, the International Red Cross, Amnesty International, the Human Rights groups and anyone else they can sucker into believing they are the victims. Instead of cutting off aid and funds to Hamas, what do we do. Our Secretary of State gives them more money to carry on their terrorist activities. Where's the assurance the monies Hamas gets from this country won't go to buy weapons to be used against Israel. Where's the assurance the Palestinian Authority isn't playing Hillary who gave them $900 million, who she recognizes as the true government to keep their word not to transfer some of that money to Hamas just to keep the peace. Hamas want a two state and peace with Israel. In the meantime, until that is achieved they feel they have the right to kill as many Israelis as they can.

Jews
If Gentiles were to be really honest, most of them would admit that Jews are in the forefront
of the destruction of the U.S. Have a look at
the "investment companies", the "insurance
companies", the Bernie Madoff "investment
schemes, the "tort lawyers". It's maniacal
avarice gone wild.

The funny thing is, if you dare to point out
that Jews are prevalent in the destruction of
wherever they reside, the politically correct
will call you a racist or a Ben Shapiro will
call you an anti-semite.

Common Thread, Common Belief
RE: "Lucifer wanted to compel everyone to be obediant. God the Father said no. I will give them the commandments, and allow them to choose for themselves."

Yes, Lucifer wanted to compel everyone to be obedient. You may wish to check out the Koran to see who agrees with that philosophy.

tkdblk
You sound like a nice person but what the heck is tkdblk all about?

I generally just express what I really believe
and I just don't believe that all Jews are
saintly and all Muslims are evil. In our country
Muslims have no voice and Jews make sure they
don't.

Just for your own information, why don't you
find out how many Jews have died and how many
Palestinians have died in the last five years.
I think you'll find the numbers shocking.

A Modest Proposal - Give War a Chance

1. The United States will not offer so much as a crust of bread or the smallest peice of money to the so called Palestinians.

2. Europe and the Saudi's etal al may continue their beificience, alone.

3. So kong as the bombs explode and the missles fly the aid to Israel continues.

4. Congress will pass a law that any country which arms our enemies or enemies of our full allies is to be treated as "hostis humani generis". No trade, no food, no aid and no immigration rights. Any US company which violates this mandate is to be tried, not under civilian law but the UCMJ (fair warning GE).

5. Congress will pass another law stating categorically that an attack by non-uniformed forces will be treated by us as an act of war by the host country of these forces.

To paraphrase that hackneyed whiney sixties ballad, give war a chance.

A Brutal Lesson
I must confess I have feelings of schadenfreude for all the Jewish Americans who voted for Obama. Powerful Jewish politicians donated to his campaign and some are in his administration.

But if they have any ties to Israel, or any relatives in Israel, they will regret their support. Obama is going to come down on the side of the Arabs--big time and start the process of destroying Israel as a state dominated by one tribal group.

Jewish people have the reputation of being very intelligent, except for the thousands who gave their money to Madoff and the thousands who voted for Barack Obama.

As a conservative, I can only sit back and marvel at the stupidity of these Americans who are going to realize too late that the GOP was their real friend--not the liberals like Obama and his Palestinian friends, especially Rev. Wright.


FUNNY black conservative
Be sure to check this guy's site out, as he is a black conservative who makes it so FUNNY you will be hooked...http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-wants-to-be-loved.html

Labels
Labels were created to stifle debate. Anti-semitic means nothing, that is just a label designed to shut off the debate and deflect the thrust of the facts being presented. Jews are not disliked because of their religion or the fact they wear a yarmulke--they are disliked because of their politics and their overbearing style at defending contrary political ideologies. No one wakes up one morning and decides after a lifetime of religious tolerance and freedom that they do not like a religion. One can wake up one morning and realize they despise Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, or George Soros. Jews all. It has nothing to do with their religion; it is their dogmatic pursuit of Socialism and cultural destruction that people loath. Arlen Specter has made a political decision to cut off debate in the Senate--that decision stirs a strong abhorrence in me--his Jewish religion does not offend me.

On the Garden and the Prime Minister
The painting was right behind the two leaders (Bush and Olmert) who had their picture taken, about a year ago, in the then prime minister's house--the familiar tree in the Garden, only the apples were all INSIDE the bark of the tree!

Was this a hawkish or a dovish interpretation of the scenes from Genesis?

Maybe it was just a "deconstructionist" or heideggerian "retrieval."

Several readings are possible: 1) men are innocent a la Rousseau 2) men are now beyond good and evil a la Nietzsche 3) variations on the two themes above!

(The journalists are obsessed with their narrow "news." Someone needs to focus on details like this painting that are more than just "suggestive" or, for heaven's sake, "decorative.")

The only way Israel gets peace
Is wait for the next attack and declare war. The UN is totally with these cutthroats and againt Jews. Fight until every fighting Arab is sent to H%ll or disarmed. Americans are already in the Middle East fighting terrorists and let America see the real Hussein Oblaba. They've seen the Marxist now let's see the Muslim.

whats the point of this article
always be suspicious of someones motives if he tries to obscure the meaning of what he is saying.
Honestly can someone summarize this article in 2 sentences.

point
The point is the Jews gave Obama 85% of their vote and now they are unhappy.

Lilly: How would you know??????? part 2
RE: "I generally just express what I really believe
and I just don't believe that all Jews are
saintly and all Muslims are evil. In our country
Muslims have no voice and Jews make sure they
don't.

Just for your own information, why don't you
find out how many Jews have died and how many
Palestinians have died in the last five years.
I think you'll find the numbers shocking." end quote

I don't think all Jews are saintly and all Muslims are evil either, however if you look at the behaviors of the two groups as regards who starts the violence first, there is a problem of distribution of the numbers.

I don't doubt more Palestinians have died. When you go out in the streets and throw bottles, rocks, RPG's, homicide bombs just because it makes you feel good to do so, you are going to have a problem with Israelis and others shooting back at you. It comes with the territory, when you start it, someone will finish it.

And don't give me the thing about which group, Jews or Arabs got there first. Hardly anyone wanted to live there until 1948 and the Israelis made something out of nothing. That rarely happens in the Muslim world, most of the are still living in the 7th century. Too much fighting and negativity toward each other to actually accomplish much. Without us PAYING for their oil, they would have not nearly as much as they have now.

Muslims have no voice? Give me a break, the main stream media bends over backwards to try to sell the idea that it is a religion of peace and cover over things like "honor" killings. etc. Hopefully we will grow enough courage to prosecute those things under American law when they happen here. That would be displaying "sensitivity" to the one that matters first, the victim! The perp should be the last in line, if at all.

Islam...the anti-christ cult
It's not a stretch to think of islam as the anti-christ cult. If you really stop and think about it, their whole culture is very much about submission to a fake god (allah) much like the pagan gods that the Jews were warned against worshipping while in captivity in Egypt. This is a struggle of good against evil and until people start understanding that there will be no peace as long as islam is allowed to exist, anywhere. There is no such thing as a "moderate muslim". You either submit totally or you are considered a heretic (non-believer) and the punishment is death. That's what I call evil.

Israel
I think Charles Krauthammer's article very good and always enjoy listening to him on Fox.
I agree we do need Israel and do have a faithful ally in them. I don't think we've always been as supportive of them as we should be however. Suggesting two countries for Israel and for Palestine is a bad idea at best. They need to do whats best for them in this regard and to allow Palestinians to have their own state would be suicide for Israel.

Israel
Israel should be able to defend itself against its enemies without criticizm from others. And to suggest two states, one for Israel, and one for Palestine is ridiculous. It will indeed be suicide for Israel. Thank you Charles for your ever brilliant thoughts and ideas. Look forward to you on Fox, Mon. thru Fri.

True Nature of the Emperor's Clothes
"The Palestinians already have a state, an independent territory with not an Israeli settler or soldier living on it. It's called Gaza. And what is it?"

This was the genius of A. Sharon's plan: to set up a Palestinian State in a test tube and show the world what they really have in mind. It wasn't to make a society for themselves, was it? Unfortunate General Sharon was removed from the scene: I think he was on to something brilliant. Too brilliant by half maybe since no one in the talking community has suggested this objective nor done anything but the conventional, "is he insane?" The world seems not to have noticed the nature of the PA or any Palestinian authority.

Now I have to wonder why, because I'm not so brilliant personally to perceive this. Thus others surely have. And why the silence?

Lilly
How old are you anyway? If I had to guess I'd say 13 and heading backward.

Better start reading books before you open your mouth. Your stats are a** backwards and, it would seem, that all your interested in is for no one to see you as prejudiced?

How about if you were a Mom whose child had been hurt by a child molester. You gonna sit there and tell me that you think he should NOT be put into prison? Poor souls...he needs understanding and rehabilitation. Now, go look up the states on the number of molesters who have ever been rehabilitated.

The shut up for a while, give yourself time to think, and see if you can actually stop worrying that someone may see you as prejudiced. Having no use for child molesters isn't even prejudice. It is accepting reality.
Now you will get older, but the point is also to get wiser.

Krauthammer, you missed the boat!!!
Charles,

you say that ABBAS would entertain the idea of a two state solution, but has no authority.


SAYS WHO???

You think that Israel can not AUTHORIZE ABBAS?
As the palestianian and reniged time and time again, any existing "authority" can be simply DECLARED OUTLAW, with HAMAS, and then have ABBAS for a separate government over the WBank, and create a side-by-side two state solution, EX-GAZA, which remains a terroritory, until they agree to accept Israel's right to exist.

A little creative thinking and bold leadership is needed, nothing more, Charles.


COME ON, get with program,
THINK OUT SIDE THE BOX!!

Derrick

Here is the SOLUTION!!!
1) Declare HAMAS and the palestianian authority TERRORISTS and remove recognition.
2) Have ABBAS for a government, constitution, under a new plaestian state in the west bank.
3) Formalize that government through the vote.
4) W.Bank become "PALESTINE", NOW, with ABBAS elected and with a constituion, EX GAZA and HAMAS.
5) Have Palestine (WBank) treaty with Israel, mutual respect, defense, trade, with aid.
6) Have GAZA remain a TERRITORY, a TERRORIST TERRORY, and brutally respond to any rocket, and clamp down on them, while WBANK lives in liberty with increase prosperity.
7) Only when the people of GAZA see the fruits of the peace deal with WBank, will they dump their iranian terror sponsors, and join the peace process. GAZA is so tiny, it should be easy for Israel to control, despite the EU pricks and appeasers trying to bring up trump up war crimes.

THERE IS THE DEAL!!
THERE IS THE SOLUTION, NOW!!!

Derrick


If only the President...
had as much wisdom as Charles Krauthammer! I'd certainly feel safer if Obama would even just read Mr. Krauthammer's columns once in a while. Instead we have someone who seems bent on doing everything to destroy not only our country with his unprecedented spending which will bankrupt our country, but Israel with his positively stupid attitude in regard to the Muslim extremists. What the hell did we do to deserve this man?
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