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Monday, February 18, 2008
Carrie Schwab Pomerantz :: Townhall.com Columnist
Good Debt, Bad Debt
by Carrie Schwab Pomerantz
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Personal debt has been grabbing the headlines - and there is no shortage of cautionary tales. I must admit, in general, I am not a fan of debt. Interest payments are expensive, along with late fees and penalties if you don't pay on time. Easy access to credit prompts many people to spend beyond their means. And every dollar you spend on interest is another dollar you can't save and invest.

But some debt is inevitable and even useful when used judiciously. Most people simply could never buy substantial assets like houses and cars without taking on debt (just as most businesses can't grow without access to credit). The trick is to learn the difference between good debt and bad debt - borrowing wisely - and to manage your debt prudently.

GOOD DEBT

Good debt means inexpensive debt, and inexpensive debt is typically backed by collateral: A home or a second home, for example, along with a home equity line of credit (HELOC). The fact that most interest payments for home-related loans are tax-deductible only adds to their attractiveness. You can deduct the interest on a home or second home loan as large as $1 million (combined). For a second mortgage or HELOC, you can deduct interest up to $100,000. As always, tax issues can be complicated by your personal situation, so consult your tax adviser if you're unsure about tax deductibility.

The caution, as we've seen played out in virtually every city across the country, is not to take on more mortgage debt that you can comfortably repay, and to fully understand the terms of your loan before you sign on the dotted line.

BAD DEBT

Consumer credit, particularly credit cards, is the poster child for bad debt; it's often extremely expensive and, for some, extremely addictive. As I write this article, the national average credit card interest rate, according to IndexCreditCards.com, is just under 14 percent - that's almost three times the average home mortgage rate and just about twice the average HELOC rate. And individual store credit cards are typically higher still. I just took a look at one of my store cards, which charges a whopping 21 percent on balances. I never keep a balance on it.

This does not mean you should avoid using credit cards. They're essential for many purchases and easier to use than checks. Having and using credit wisely (paying promptly) will help build your credit rating. Plus, many cards now offer pretty valuable rewards: points, airline miles, buyer protection, or even cash back. But don't maintain a balance unless you positively must.

Let's take a simple example. You have a mainstream credit card with a balance of $1,000 that charges you 14 percent, and you pay the minimum of $25 per month. It will take you about 55 months - that's more than 4.5 years - to pay off that $1,000 debt, and you will pay $364 in interest charges. Don't miss a payment: You could pay substantial late fees and may see your interest rate rise dramatically. If lesson No. 1 is to avoid balances, then lesson No. 2 is to understand the terms and conditions of your card.

MANAGING YOUR DEBT

The first step in managing debt is to determine how much debt you can really afford. There's a commonly used guideline called the 28/36 rule: No more than 28 percent of your pretax household income should go to servicing home debt.

This includes principal and interest costs, your mortgage payment, plus property taxes and insurance. And no more than 36 percent of your pretax household income should go to all debt: your home debt plus credit card debt and auto loans. Consider yourself in great shape if your total debt burden is less than 30 percent of your pretax income; you're in OK shape if it falls between 30 percent and 36 percent. Between 36 percent and 40 percent is borderline. And if your debt burden is more than 40 percent of your pretax income, your financial situation may be precarious.

If you're "borderline" or "precarious," your first priority should be to reduce your level of debt. Pay off credit cards first, starting with those bearing the highest rates. Consider consolidating credit card debt using your HELOC if you have one. If you don't, consider opening a HELOC if you own a home. Be extra careful about missing payments. If you simply have no choice in the matter, call the credit card company and work out a plan. And, obviously, don't take on any new debt.

There are, of course, other kinds of debt. Auto loans, for example, are essential for many people, and while they're not deductible, they usually feature relatively low rates for people with good credit histories. Student loan interest rates are also relatively low, and pursuing higher education can be a great investment in your future. In addition, some student loan interest is tax-deductible depending on your income level.

Debt is a part of life, and few of us can live without it. So rather than shun debt altogether, the key is to learn how to use it most effectively.

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Managing auto debt
This is something few people do correctly. I have many friends and coworkers who are in perpetual car debt and they insist that's just the way it is. They absolutely refuse to buy used and they won't own a car that isn't under warranty. Thus, they always have a brand-new car that they typically owe more on than it is worth. And, they think this is perfectly normal.

Conversely, the smart money people I know own their car until it becomes more expensive to repair it than the car is worth. They take out a loan on a used car that is low miles and just a few years old and they do as much of the mechanic work themselves or take the car to an independent mechanic which is typically 20-30 percent less expensive than the dealership. They keep their car for 10-plus years. They don't take the hit off the show room floor, they always own more of the car than the car is worth and good maintenance is their warranty rather than the questionable promises of the dealership (have you ever noticed that nothing is ever covered by the warranty?).

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Pomerantz and Jackie Gingrich
Back into the kitchen for more cookies. Preaching to the choir? There is no good debt. Sometimes it may be necessary but it is never (readmylips never) good. As Scwab-Pomerantz says, buy stocks and bonds - and watch the value go down as our national debt sky rockets.

aurorawatcher
Of course you are absolutely right about the stupidity of staying in debt for the sake of driving a new or nearly new car.

However, if one absolutely MUST have a new car, they shouldn't finance it for more than three years. Some people go five, even six years, and when they finally get all that interest & principle paid off, it's a piece of junk.

Also...
If you MUST have a new car, always buy the previous years' model in late winter/early spring of the following year, ie, buy a 2007 model that's still on the lot in early 2008. The dealers want to clear them out.

Lenders are to blame.
People in bad financial straits will almost always borrow without any consideration of whether they can pay it back. Some would pay if they could but others never had any intention of paying because they know we will not put them on the rack or apply the thumbscrew. Of course the responsible and strong willed behave responsibly and the irresponsible and weak willed don't. So the onus must always be on the lender and the risk they take. If they choose to lend to those who are financially unstable in one or all of the many ways it is possible to be, then they must accept the loss when they don't get paid. Notwithstanding that,now that we do not deal in cash we have no feel for the money going out, we do not see an empty wallet.When we were paid weekly and used cash we had to control ourselves, but people may not naturally have the ability to exercise control and now that money has become a virtual thing, an electronic pulse in a system, only the lender truly has the ability to control debt but they are growing very rich on fat interest and banks have little interest in morality, so they will never do that.

John Konop
It's funny how your postings rarely have anything to do with the article in which you comment.
Having said that, 120 billion dollars is much smaller than the 338 billion dollars that Illegal immigration costs us every year.
Get a grip!

trends
The trend to use credit cards to make ends meet began in the Clinton years. Highest personal debt to income ratio because Clinton wouldn't let anyone keep their paychecks. This in turn over inflated the economic stats. Sure the economy for a time was going okay, but it was going okay for business' that required purchasing personal items, and people were doing the purchasing with credit.

The use of credit has become as addictive as heroin.

I remember those years well. We made less money and paid more in taxes, not only as percentage of income but dollar for dollar as well.

Add to Freedomknight
"People in bad financial straits will almost always borrow without any consideration of whether they can pay it back."

Just as bad - maybe worse - I have a friend, I previously considered intelligent told me about his buying experience on his new Caddy SUV. He admitted he told the dealer if he could get his payments down to $800 mo, he would buy. Guess what?


How about a real debate about Good Debt?
I would like to see Carrie debate Dave Ramsey about the nature of "good" debt. How about it, Fox? Somebody call Cavuto! We can even handcuff Dave, and keep the discussion in the secular realm. Debt is simply debt - it is never good. People who borrow beyond their means are not being duped, they (we?) are just being stupid.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard the phrase "good debt", I would be DEBT FREE!

"Good debt" - nonsense
There is "good advice" and "bad advice" and we just heard an earful of bad advice.

Home equity loans are "good debt"? Since when? What for? For more excessive spending? You miss on these, and you lose your house. For what? A boat? A car? etc. It is clear how far we have fallen when these ideas are pitched as "mainstream". Our fathers and grandfathers loathed debt. We could use a lot more of that.

This author says debt "is part of our lives"? That is a choice to enter into a form of bondage. We need to discern between wants and needs. How would things change if we saved 100% before the purchase?

I am 100% debt free. I don't say it to brag. It took work, but it's totally possible. In today's economy, with jobs slippery, and difficulty all around us, we cannot afford this type of "advice". There is good advice and bad advice, and we just heard an article of "bad advice".

Debt = bondage and loss of freedom. One may have to borrow for a house, but we don't need 3500 ft2 homes. We may need to borrow for education, but everything else we don't.


What about our National Debt?
When are we going to get our bill for the war in Iraq? How much will it cost each American???

Oh wait, we're going to leave it for the next generation to pay!

I suggest you tell the Treasury Dept. to keep your tax rebate checks and put it towards paying the war fund....

It's the only responsible and patriotic thing to do.

Let's pay our bills kids.


There IS "Good" debt
Why are we arguing the value of a product instead of teaching others how to shop? In reality, there isn’t good or bad debt, but there are good and bad choices. If I spend $6 on a cup of coffee, people may think I’m nuts, but they don’t blame the vendor. If I spend 21% on money, people will say I’m a “victim” and call the banker/lender “predatory.”

This is a free market with free choices. We don’t teach our kids about debt as a product and how to choose it. Let’s put blame where it belongs and begin teaching the proper purchase of money and how to include loans as a part of our financial planning. Money is a tool, and renting tools is one way to build a better life.

Good debt is debt that takes our life in the direction we intended to go. Bad debt takes our life the wrong way. The cost of debt would be a rational decision if we taught people how to handle money. It amazes me that the most important knowledge and skills needed for life are left to hard knocks. In a modern, educated world, there may be people making poor choices, but they aren’t “victims.”

No such thing as "good debt"
Proverbs 22:7 "The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is the slave of the lender."

This ancient wisdom is still very true today. Any time that you go into debt, you have made yourself a slave to the lender. They can seize your assets at any time to pay off what you owe them. Your life choices are severely limited by that debt in that it is a burden you must take with you everywhere until it is paid off.

When one considers indebtedness as slavery, it makes our current national debt to China that much more serious and troubling. We are borrowing billions of dollars EVERY DAY from China and are thereby enslaving ourselves to that evil and oppressive government.


matthew
"Oh wait, we're going to leave it for the next generation to pay!"

I was very disturbed when listening to my father and his brother-in-law talk about the financial state of our country, and one of them actually said, "Well, at least we will be gone before we have to worry about it." I could not believe that they would say such a thing in front of me. After taking a deep breath, I responded, "Well, I DO. And my children do."

They both belong to the baby boom generation which is quite possibly the most selfish generation that our nation has seen. You can very much see this attitude throughout the political decisions of the past couple decades -- a period in which the baby boom generation effectively took control of our government by sheer numbers.

Our country is digging a hole from which it may never be able to free itself, and our current three leading candidates (Hillary, Obama, and McCain) are all looking to increase government spending either to fund big new government projects or engage in even more wars in the Middle East. When will enough be enough?

Sadly, getting baby boomers to seriously think about how to avoid this catastrophe is about as easy as getting them to actually communicate with their children. They do not want to risk upsetting their retirement accounts or their way of life. The fact is that very soon, they may have to give up both as the reality is thrust upon them. The dollar is starting to collapse, and with the recent start of the Iranian Bourse which trades oil in rials and rubles instead of dollars, we may very well see an exodus from the US dollar around the world causing it to weaken further. If the present process continues, we may find that our dollar is essentially worthless, and the fixed retirement incomes are no longer enough to cover basic necessities let alone retirement luxuries.


(continued)
It has long been my fear that the baby boom generation would be the loneliest generation as they would die alone in their retirement homes isolated from their families. Ironically, the collapse of the dollar may just bring about the one thing they need the most: dependence (and the humility that comes with it) on their children and the need to move in and interact with them.

Managing Debt is one of the
newest of modern terms for a society that allowed the two biggest personal assets for most, homes and cars, to be inflated beyond any normal time frame for payoff, by buying into long term debt.

Once a few started doing it, the rest of the consumers slowly started to have to keep up or the inflation would ruin their chances of buying.

I hope the next up and coming generation of adults, repudiates car debt at least. But, with the mantra put forth above about "good" debt "bad" debt, it will be a long shot that it will happen.

The author appears to be a child of a baby boomer, who works for the financial industry, the only winner in the never ending "managed" debt cycle. Nice commercial!

There is a Such thing as Good Debt
There is good debt, but it must be managed with the right person. Some people turn debt into a fortune, others think all debt is bad; and it makes them bankrupt. Why? Education is the difference. Education in managing risk.
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