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Tuesday, March 03, 2009
Carrie Lukas :: Townhall.com Columnist
Rush Doesn't Need to Win Women, but Conservatives Do
by Carrie Lukas
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Women, particularly political independents, don’t like Rush Limbaugh. That was the finding of a poll released last week by Public Policy Polling. It reported that while 56 percent of men had a favorable opinion of Rush, just 37 percent of women did. Nearly half of women had an unfavorable opinion of the conservative radio phenomenon. The total gender gap was a whopping 31 points.

Rush dedicated part of his show last week to a “women’s summit,” in which women callers offered their perspective on why such a gap might exist and what the host might do to boost his popularity. The callers had plenty of advice—most of which had to do with Rush’s famous, tongue-in-cheek bombast and willingness to buck political correctness. Rush stated empathetically he isn’t going to change who he is or what makes his show such a success.

Hallelujah to that. There's no reason for the nation’s most successful radio host to worry about reaching female moderates and Democrats. Even from the broad perspective of the conservative movement, Rush’s greatest strength is his ability to educate his audience about political philosophy and key policy issues, and to rally the troops. Without a doubt, many open-minded women (and men) have had their minds changed by Rush. Making his show more milquetoast and less entertaining in the hopes of converting a few liberal ladies would be counterproductive, to say the least.

It’s a different story for conservatism writ large. Supporters of limited government and their elected representatives do need to find ways to build support among women. This doesn’t require changing any fundamentals, but does mean understanding how to talk about issues in ways women connect with.

Democrats excel at this, particularly in appealing to women’s fears. Last year, for example, Sen. Kennedy highlighted polling data showing women were more worried about the economy. He claimed women are disproportionately affected by economic downturns and, naturally, need bigger government to help them. Yet a closer look at the poll told a different story. Yes, women were more concerned in 2008 about the economy; but a survey from the previous year showed they were more concerned then too. And women weren’t just more concerned about the economy. The poll found women worried more than men about health care, crime, the environment, drug use, a possible terrorist attack, unemployment, and hunger/homelessness.

In other words, women worry more than men about everything. This should come as no surprise: just about anyone who has a mother or wife could tell you women fret about things men don't even notice.

Yet this is important for conservatives to keep in mind. Women simply place a higher premium on security and safety than men do. Women are more often involved in the day-to-day care of vulnerable members of society including children, the elderly, and the sick. They worry more about the bottom-line and are more concerned about avoiding big downsides than they are about maximizing upsides.

That means when conservatives talk about economic issues, we can’t just speak about generating prosperity. We have to also talk about how wealth creation bolsters financial security and explain how growth helps the least well off. Women, even those who are financially secure, tend to think about tragedies that could place their families in peril. Democrats prey on this tendency, while conservatives too often ignore it.

Conservatives have a compelling case to make since big government is often the enemy of financial security. At every turn, it seems, Washington undermines the institutions that actually provide women with the greatest safety and support. The pre-1996 federal welfare system, which the Democrat-controlled Congress is gradually bringing back, provided women with children with subsistence, but discouraged marriages and intact families. Today, social policy scholars from the Left and the Right agree that stable families are the most effective mechanism for preventing poverty and encouraging lifetime success. The existence, or lack thereof, of an intact family has become the dividing line between the haves and the have nots. Undoubtedly the federal welfare system, by undermining civil society and the family, ultimately made women less secure.

Women are also open to arguments about how intrusive government labor laws backfire on women. While the media tends to characterize any requirement on employers to provide new benefits as a boon to women, such mandates raise the cost of employment, deter job creation, and discourage the kinds of flexible job arrangements women crave. Rhetoric about liberty and growth is, unfortunately, not enough. Conservatives must explain clearly how employer mandates directly harm women.

The siren song of big government has superficial appeal to women who crave security. Ultimately, though, it exacts big costs—many of which are disproportionately borne by women. Conservatives have a compelling story about how limited government and free markets create greater financial security in addition to dynamism and growth. We just need a more tailored pitch.

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Carrie Lukas is the vice president for policy and economics at the Independent Women’s Forum and author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to Women, Sex, and Feminism.

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IMHO, a problem...
... in reaching out to women on conservative issues is found in the above writeup -- "limited government." You can't sell that to women as a conservative virtue because they want just the opposite.
Read the female columnists on TownHall, and note how many of them are in the "angry moms" segment, demanding cranky, intrusive new laws on everything from sex, to pornography, to the internet, to police powers, etc. Certainly a "women libertarian" demographic seems like a contradiction in terms. The "nanny state" by no means is limited to liberals.


Conservative Women, Really?
I think if women really cared about economics and budgets they would never have voted for Obama. My personal view is many women vote on the basis of style and appearance, admittedly similar to the way men vote on Miss America candidates.

Perhaps the reason more women voted for Obama than McCain is that they did not do the homework that most conservatives did. Symbolism over substance triumphed again.

Many woman who dislike Rush Limbaugh have never listened to his program. They just automatically adopt the opinions of their female friends and relatives. Women seem to relate to other women as far as opinions and prejudices are concerned more than they adhere to their own judgment.

There are many other women, however, who really respect and admire Rush's intelligence and philosophy. Usually these women use their brains instead of their gonads in judging political candidates.

Jerseyvet
Woman do not generally vote with their gonads; that has more to do with men than women or their fear of women. Women vote for hope, fairness, fair-play, decency, respect for them as individuals, a plan that addresses their needs and aspirations and those of their children.
Rush is none of those things; I used to listen to him years ago and found so many of his comments about healthcare to be factually inaccurate, misleading and plain wacko; as this is my field of expertise. I gave up on listening to get another pov; it was too painful to hear the nonsense and a waste of my precious time. Then came his drug bust; oh, talk about special treatment. If I have been in his shoes, I be in the pen doing 7 years minimum. He has a right to talk and I have a right to change the dial and I do.
McCain - an older Dubya with military experience. I didn't vote for him either; he is and was a coward, dullard and an economic incompetent.

Singal
Women may vote more for dems, but maired women vote for rep, as you said for secutity. Maired women with kid go for conseritives even more. Look up the resalts for 2000, 2004. Last year I believe we lost the majority. We can win this back if we stand on princaple.
Kirk

Principle did you say?
What principle is that? The rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the middle gets screwed over much like the poor? The bankers (most repugs) get to ruin our economy, the citizens get to pay for the cleanup and we have to listen to the repugs badmouth our new President for at least trying something he hates to do, because too many people are already hurting?
Principles - only if there is enough money on which to stand!

Alice
Unfortunately, most women vote based on how they feeeeeel, not what they think.

And speaking about special treatment, where do you think us regular folks would be if we all "forgot" to pay our taxes like Barry's Cabinet selections?

Solutions
The solution to the GOP's gender gap will appear in the future without anyone having to change their roles.

As our economy collapses, it will be the women who will have to go to work to support their families in greater numbers than they already have. They have freed themselves into slavery.

Men have been marginalized. They allowed their dominance to be legislated and litigated away from them. They succumbed to the messages from our opinion makers and our culture that a man has two, and only two, possible identities: either he's an idiot whose messes must be cleaned up by a woman or a kid; or he's a barbarian.

Good job America.

So as business shrinks, more men will be idled. The women will have to be the breadwinners. The men will stay at home, play video games, and wait for the women to get off work and make dinner before doing the house work.

These women will then start to pay more attention to economics, world events, and the promises of our rulers and how such promises always mean more taxes, less take home pay, and thus more stress at home.

Then American women will become smart. They will become conservative as they resent the shirkers, loafers and other democrat voting parasites for bleeding our treasury.

This will be good.

Jerseyvet
While I'm sure you were speaking metaphorically when referencing the feminine anatomy, it is important to realize a simple truth...women are different than men, they think differently, much differently.

Men are transactional creatures who exchange ideas, while women are intuitive and emotional. This is not a complaint. On the contrary, I find women to be fascinating, delightful and altogether intoxicating to be around.

You are, no doubt, aware that men and women speak completely different languages. The writer is communicating in language that we men can understand, one of the keys to marketing to women. A focus on Security.

Another, you might consider is the fact that women experience emotions about ideas, people, things & concepts...but it doesn't stop there, a woman experiences emotions about the emotions connected with ideas (and etc).

It would be most unwise to simply bemoan a woman's selection criteria. Instead, frame your message with her needs in mind.

The Obama budget will push America over the precipice that we've been inching toward for the last 80 years...into bankruptcy and debt for the foreseeable future. The government has been living on a credit card in order to provide "security" to its citizens (in order to buy votes), while keeping taxes low.

Now, the bill is coming due, and our children are going to be paying for it in their dotage...What mother want's to sell her children into slavery?

Women Voters
I always said there are many types of women voters who never should have been given that right. Most women ,like the left wing Democrats,do not think...they feel.

They now have been Oprah-ized. Many are Soap Opera Queens who would vote for a man if he looks good and never know what he stands for. They should forget about voting.

I have several women friends whom I associate with in my area. Not ONE of them follows the political scene. They vote for a person because someone else says they should.

They have no time to acquaint themselves with them before time to vote.If they even bother to vote. None of them are anything like most of these townhall ladies.

Alice
Put a sock in it. This is one woman who would never degrade herself to vote for any baby killing metrosexual poseur, especially this lying pretender.
I have too much pride to lower myself to vote for DemonRATS. But then again, I don't need a gaggle or coffeeklatch wymen to validate my beliefs. Maybe that's why I prefer talking to men..conservative men they make more sense than
these girlymen parading around like soft little
twits. They have been so emasculated by the
feminazi's they have forgotten what being a man is. I've listened to Rush for almost 20 years,
and he's echoed what I have thought all my life.
I want men to be leaders, leaders in the mode
and philosophy of Washington, Jefferson, Adams
etc..not in the mode of a traitor to a Constitution he deems "flawed."

Marketing
Conservatism doesn't need to be marketed however the CONSTITUTION, WITH THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND THE DECLARATION need to be taught.
I forget the Founder who said it, but it was something like..this Republic was formed for a religious and moral people..the men who look
at this from a religious (Christian) application
need to assert their God given leadership calling. So many females have bought the lie,
about feminism and have suffered immeasurably..it's they that are the single parents, and it's they that are in the lower economic class..these women aren't voting with their heads, they are voting for a husband/daddy. Until they realize that the hubby/daddy Obama is working to enslave them
into much deeper, bottomless slavery they will always shy away from the foundations of this nation. We need as a people to turn back to God and get our priorities right.

Alice: OK
“He afterall, doesn't even seem to be able to keep a wife (even with all his gazillions of dollars).”

OK. Do you view ad hominem attacks as a viable substitute for rational discourse with those uppity men who object to the responsibility-optional, consequence-life styles endemic to the privileged gender? Given your statements you must have been one of the many “entitlement-Barbies “who voted for the ZERO instead of the HERO.

Give the verbally incontinent & marginally literate nature of your pornographic missives you must be quite the successful professional women. Does expressing your visceral contempt for adult white males salve or mitigate the daily pain or remorse for an otherwise wasted life? Enquiring minds want to know.

I would entreat you to go back to school and obtain an education, but I doubt that you have that much time left.

JD's Handsome Son: Hardly...
"So as business shrinks, more men will be idled. The women will have to be the breadwinners. The men will stay at home, play video games, and wait for the women to get off work and make dinner before doing the house work."


Hardly. Despite all the so-called benefits FEMINISM has brought to US Society, MEN continue to be the “disposable gender” as they have always been. MEN continue to do all the heavy lifting (work 90% of overtime, suffer 95% of all work related deaths, etc.), pay the majority of income taxes (Top 50% of wager earners (Majority: MEN!!) pay 96% of all income taxes that support a welfare state that benefits women.)

The tyranny will end when men refuse to be expendible ambulatory wallets financing an feminist welfare-industrial complex in perpetuity.

Tea Party
I approach things from a marketing perspective because every day I see evidence that people are tuned in to WIIFM (What's In It For Me).

So, I try and apply the "so what" test to the message of conservatism. Where "so what" is the response to blanket statements someone might make that (while true) don't hit home to an individual. Bailouts = Bad, Free Markets = Good..."so what...and go on to explain how this is going to negatively impact your life and the lives of your children far into the future.

You make an excellent point about the women who have bought into feminism. As a Southern man, I was raised to believe that women are, in fact, NOT equal to men. They are far more valuable.

At the same time, I sometimes wonder if these feminist women, in their rabid support of abortion understand the great evil they have visited on this nation. Men are just as bloody over this, 17-25 year old men are (for obvious reasons) huge abortion supporters.

We conservatives like to think "America is great because she is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, she will cease to be great." We decry the evils of communism in the last century chiefly because it is responsible for the deaths of 100+ Million people. But we don't admit our own culpability in the murder of 50+ million innocent unborn infant children since Roe v Wade.

Single women & Democratic Party
I have never heard a feminist acknowledge that most modern women are by nature afraid and most literally depend on a paternal government to protect them from everything, from the men in their lives (i.e., Violence Against Women Act) to the right to defy reason, logic and personal responsibility (e.g., Affirmative Action, No-Fault Divorce, Abortions on Demand, etc.). The relationship between feminism (i.e., female-chauvinism) and big government and the promotion of every leftwing cause should be obvious due to the weaker sex’s natural and apparent fear of everything & perpetual need for “security” in all facets of their respective lives. This is of course reflected in how they vote. Economist John Lott, author of the book "Freedomnomics", went back to the 1980s to see what happens when women get the right to vote. His findings? In every single case, when women were granted a franchise at age 18, the cost of government immediately raised as women, particularly single women, started voting for the candidates who would create more government spending programs designed to provide women with security at the expense of the mostly male income taxpayer base. Mr. Obama is just the latest in a long line of politicians pandering to the de facto rulers of modern American Society: single & divorced women who expect responsibility-optional, consequence-free life styles subsidized by the majority-male peon taxpayer population. These are the “women in need” to whom Mr. Obama panders & they got him elected President.

Alice
Anyone else getting a rather disturbing mental image of Alice in GA?

I picture Rosie O'Donnell, Camryn Manheim, or Helen Thomas.... Maybe Andrea Dworkin has come back to life.

Just a thought.

Jim

to Alice and the rest of the lib trolls
Personal attacks Rush Limbaugh ring utterly hollow from people that elected Slick Willie twice (he lost twice among men; women put him over the top both times) and Ted Kennedy so many times I'm afraid to count.

Rush is a blowhard with the maturity of a 9-year-old when it comes to humor. And in his personal life he is far from the "epitome of morality and virtue" that he used to claim to be. But he's a glow-in-the-dark saint next to Slick Willie, and Ted Kennedy is such a pig that real pigs wouldn't let him into the pig stye.

White rabbit
Alice has followed Obama, the white rabbit, into his hole. America is now beginning to play financial croquet, and to oppose the madness comes the command, off with his head. If Rush did not touch a nerve, the President would never mention him. So, Alice, enjoy every day, for it's an un-birthday day, and you can have a party with the VEEP, or as we all know, the Mad Hatter in disguise.

women and rush
Why do people totally trust this poll from some liberal North Carolina polling agency? I live in the Raleigh Durham Chapel Hill area and the liberals are everywhere. Rush gets a lot of calls from women. I think the real reason is women tend to be followers and have chosen to believe the "womens movement"'s leaders instead of thinking for themselves. I think the younger women will come around and start thinking for themselves.

To Liberals from Missouri
Progressive women adore abusive men. Perhaps their superior intellects require more danger for stimulation.

This is why intelligent, liberal women love the Kennedys and Bill Clinton. There's something erotic about wondering if you will actually cross the bridge of life and politics and live. When Ted crawled out of his car in 1969 and abandoned his mistress, all liberal women fantasized that one day they too might breathe their last breath, upside down in a Kennedy limousine.

Liberal women froth at the mouth defending a serial molester like Bill Clinton. They flock to the polls for Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy's father, Joe the Elder, brought his mistresses home to meet his wife before bedding the down at the estate. This is a big turn on for liberal women, especially those from Missouri.

It sounds sick to normal people, something we'll never understand. No doubt it's because we're too dumb to get it.

You've come a long way, baby.

JD
It's the estrogen betrayal. In the mammal kingdom, the females come into heat and wait for the males to slug it out. When a woman is in estrus, the words "thinking women" go out the window. Men, on the other hand, will go after almost any female that displays any receptivity at all. But, after the quick tryst, it's back to business as usual... money, power, and sex. For women however, once babies are on the scene, it's all about security. They will sell their soul to any man/leader that will quell their fears. So, any confident man that sounds good becomes their hero/liberator/protector. If, however, they have any semblance of a man who exhibits any protective and earning capacity, they'll usually follow him, even if Rush "sounds mean." The NOW harpies fell for Clinton. One of them even said she'd give him a "monica" if he'd support abortion. Now there's a principled stand... or should I say, genuflection.

Say hello to the Mad Hatter, Alice
on your way back DOWN the rabbit hole. AND STAY THERE!!!!!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Gratitude for Profblog
Thanks, Profblog, for the explanation. Now I know what's behind the seemingly bizarre desires of today's progressive female.

Perhaps this also explains NOW's, and all other progressive females', alliance with radical islam. It's obvious these dudes are seriously confident and in charge, so I assume Sarah from Missouri and all other liberal chicks tremble with anxious anticipation at the prospect of squatting in mud huts, dressed in their Banana Republic clothes, pounding out flat bread with the other wives once we're defeated by the relision of peace because we don't want to offend them.

No wonder democrat women express support for the people killing our kids over in Iraq.

I see a wonderful concept for a thesis if there are any Phd candidates out there struggling for some ideas.

This WOMAN Has a Brain
and I appreciate Rush Limbaugh's effort to educate, inform, and entertain as many open minded people who wish to listen. The MSM is useless and he gets the information hidden in their reporting from the public.
If people like Alice and Sarah were intelligent and self reliant they would realize how foolish their Rush bashing is.
Listen for a couple of weeks ladies, I dare you to learn.
As for the undereducated women who chose
O-botomies and "hope" for the government "change" to take care of them, I feel sorry for you and any children you may have, it is going to be rough.
You will learn the lessons of liberal lies the hard way without even listening to Rush.

It's simple to explain
a significant number of women are just plain nuts. Not all women of course but a significant number and it is ruining our country. They, also, are far more likey then men to be completely ignorant about economics and politics. Then there is the "it's mean" factor. Women don't like anything that seems "mean" and they are capable of insane levels of projection taking what one would consider rational sympathy and/or empathy to irrational levels.

JD
It's a rare female indeed, who will stop pounding her flat bread, rise up, doff her bananna republic fashion, and emerge from her mud hut to enlist some good men who will die for freedom. It has happened. Joan of Arc and Deborah (Book of Judges) come to mind. They still needed men. I don't look for the Democrats to field many of them. A Ph.D thesis that dared to posit anything like this would never get out of committee. If you were president of Harvard, however, it would get you fired.

lulu
am i right in assuming you are woman?

if so, do you really think so little of other women.

you must be living in another century because most women i know are informed, articulate and intelligent.


wow
i just finished reading this entire thread.

i have never seen a more anti-woman rant in my life.

obviously, rush and the republican party are writing off women which make up a larger share of the electorate than men.

keep it up and you will be the rural male southern regional party everyone is saying you have become.

Dear LuLu and MMaddox
A significant number of men are nuts too. They will sell their birthright for a bowl of soup, a night of sex, or a puppet title.
Welcome to the soup line ladies.

Anti-Woman?
No,just feminists,liberals and Oprah-cized women. I do think when they see their life savings dwindle and find it hard to feed their children realize it was the socialist left who did it,they will find themselves running for the cover of conservatives.

They will curse the day they were taken in by this jive-talking charlatan.

christianlib
Yes I am a woman and as such am privy to aspects of their character that most men are not. Do I think all women are nuts -- no. But there are a significant number who are. I'm not just talking about how they vote, I'm talking about their frame of reference.

I have numerous anecdotes, but I will give you one that is unfortunately representative of how women reason and think.

I once worked in an environment with three other women. One day one of the women said to me your husband is in such good shape doesn't have any fat or some such I responded that he could lose 10 or 15 pounds. Another woman in the room preced to throw a hissy fit because by saying my husband could lose a few pounds I was clearly talking about her fiance being fat. Yes I know that is anecdotal but it is truly representative of how women's minds work.

Rush may be many times divorced but I will always remember an observation he made about women one day that was so spot on -- I was amazed and was something I myself had never thought about. He said when women say they want to talk about your relationship what they really mean is they want to talk about how the man feels about them and themselves in general not really about them or him.

Profblog
I would argue that those men are stupid or lazy. Women truly can be nuts in a way that doesn't require treatment as it is just their nature.

christianlib
An example of projection creating irrationality.

60 Minutes did a segment a few years ago on how women soldiers were far more likely to suffer from post tramautic stress (yet never questioned why women were there but that's another argument). Anyway of the 8 women they profiled none had seen combat or casualties or had been injured -- what caused their stress you might ask? Seeing Iraqi children, they projected what could happen to them in war.


You lost me
I have no idea, LuLu, how your colleague got to that conclusion.
I do know (married 40 years now) that when my wife has me along while she shops for clothes, that the phrase "It's not you" is female code for: "you're too fat for that dress." My scars for comments in my younger years have faded. But, the lesson was learned. I'd rather go golfing, but sometimes I try to be "supportive," and she likes it.

emotion
Liberalism is about emotion.
Women are more emotional than men .
I rest my case

lulu
interesting idea, i would like to see the research on that.

my brother-in-law works in a veterans hospital and he will tell you that men affected by post-traumatic stress don't report it( because of a macho standard among their buddies)
until they lives literally fall apart.

so we got women reporting too soon and men too late.

Profblog
I remember the liberal women of the '60s.

"Say yes to the boys who say no (to the draft)"

Even back then they allied themselves with our enemies.

"Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh", said Sarah from Missouri.

It was a good thing I had my looks at the time, even in uniform.

Rowly !!!


Rowly
Location: GA
Reply # 11
Date: Mar 3, 2009 - 5:02 PM EST Women Voters
I always said there are many types of women voters who never should have been given that right. Most women ,like the left wing Democrats,do not think...they feel.

They now have been Oprah-ized. Many are Soap Opera Queens who would vote for a man if he looks good and never know what he stands for. They should forget about voting.

I have several women friends whom I associate with in my area. Not ONE of them follows the political scene. They vote for a person because someone else says they should.

They have no time to acquaint themselves with them before time to vote.If they even bother to vote. None of them are anything like most of these townhall ladies.

~~~

AMEN !

Rowly, you have more sense in your little finger than any leftist has in their entire brain cavity!

Many years ago, my wife used to watch Oprah. That stopped completely when she discovered that Oprah was a racist.

Now she wants to puke everytime she thinks about how she was fooled for a while.



j-10
i know that is the conservative dogma but i find it in opposition to most issues conservatives care about.

religion, guns and gays are pretty much all emotional issues not factual.

if you read these threads you see emotions leading the discussion not facts or rational thinking.

for example:

all liberals bad-all conservatives bad

now despite that it is a huge stereotype, the idea that liberals are bad is based on emotion not on fact.

we can disagree politically, but that doesn't mean an individual is bad.


j-10
i meant to say all liberals bad--all conservatives good.

which is strictly based on emotion not facts.


RE: Rowly at 10:19
"I do think when they see their life savings dwindle and find it hard to feed their children realize it was the socialist left who did it,they will find themselves running for the cover of conservatives.". . . . . . . . . .

. . .from your lips to God's ears.




Women in history
None of the great civilizations of the past allowed women in government, excepting the occasional female pharaoh or queen who got to the top through blood connections during an absence of male heirs.

Nor did the founding fathers of the United States have anything to say about allowing women to vote.

These great civilizations, and these great men, cherished women but knew that the vast majority of them are emotionally unsuited to making the rational decisions that politics requires.

As others here have noted, women put Bill Clinton and now the anti-Constitutional charlatan Obama over the top, because those con men knew how to play to women's desires, fears, and weaknesses (a smooth voice, attractive eyes or smile, etc.).

My mother, for example, voted for Obama because "McCain's eyes don't look quite right--you can tell there's something wrong with him. And besides, he mumbles." When pressed for the differences in the political stances of the two men, she hadn't a clue. But she knew who looked and sounded better.

For many women, a presidential campaign is just another form of American Idol, a popularity contest.

My wife has assured me that women who get a taste of power will nearly always go power-mad--not that some men don't too, but with women it is, she says, a given. Evidence seems to support her assertion (viz. Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, et al).

A nation of male-only voters would keep America on the track that the Constitution set for it, while women, I believe, will run the Republic right off the rails, to socialism and ruin.

Add our abominable "progressive" school system that no longer educates kids about their political heritage or history, and not even the males know whom or what to vote for when they come of age.

I see no future for our country anymore.

Forgotten wisdom?
"The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"...or"Behind every great man is a great woman"? I know my beliefs are incredibly out-dated,but they're still true to this day.Maybe I'm a female "male chauvinist",but I think the feminists did themselves,their children,and the world a huge disservice by claiming they could "have it all".Men like Rush,with strong virtues and the guts to defend them,are worth getting behind.We need more like him!

Excellent Article.

This article is right on the money.

One thing conservative need to understand is that it doesn't matter if you are correct on the issues. If you can't articulate or communicate the reasons why your are correct to others less informed or who lack your experience, you will do nothing to advance your position.

Many rank and file democrats really have no clue about how their party plans to implement the things they promise.

The rank and file union worker does not support Affirmative Action quotas. The Nurse working all night does not spprove of Liberal judge letting rapist out of jail early. The soccer mom does not support increasing education funding so administrators can increase their saleries. The single mom driving 30 miles to work does not want a $400 tax break if she will end up paying $2000 more in gas tax, cigarette tax, Cell phone tax, cable TV tax, sales taxes. The college student doesn't want lower college tution if it means the cost of housing will be inflated by the time he/she is ready to buy a house.

Bringing more women to conservatism
Conservatives need to address more issues that concern women. What about a repeal of No-Fault Divorce Laws which allow partners to just walk away at will with no regard to the destruction of the family? And, what about a Conservative denouncing of the Parental Alienation Syndrome fabricated by Richard Gardner? PAS is used by attorneys & psychologists to torment mothers & children. It is an unfounded, unproven theory just like the Rind Study which Congress wholeheartedly denounced. PAS needs to be denounced by Congress. Check out info against PAS on-line. Abusers get all of the rights while mothers and children are tortured. This is a word wide problem. And, considering that Gardner was an advocate of incest and adult/child sex, why is PAS gaining so much ground in the court system? Parents had better wake up now that Ogden (supporter of child porn) has been appointed as the No. 2 officer in the Justice Department.

Premise is good...but
The conservative platform covers most of women's concerns about security much better than the liberals. While it is true that we could articulate this better than we do, there is one great divide that we cannot seem to bridge. The liberals have convinced women that "pro-choice" is good for them. We need to get articulate spokespersons out front to show the folly of this crazy notion. I really believe this issue is what keeps otherwise sensible people voting for loonies like Reid and Pelosi.

As I suspected
RW clearly knows nothing about women.

There are many pro life
women and they need to be out front. BTW: Obama lied, economy died!

Rush & women
I guess the pollsters have access to different women than me.

God Bless Rush Limbaugh
The Liberal party, for ever, has been preying on the poor and helpless. Come vote for me, I'll pay your bills and take care of your children. They never want these people to become independent thinkers and achievers. How would the Liberals advance their cause if these people were able to get ahead in life. Strong, independent women listen to Rush because what he says is what they feel and what is in their heart. These women believe that people improve their lives not through government regulations but by making choices in a free market place. I love my children and I raised them by hard work, not hand outs.

meltdown
Women are irrelevant. This Nation is in meltdown. All the kings horses and King's men won't put Humpty back together again.Get Gold,Guns,and God and forget stupid women.

independent female supports Rush
Well I'm one; degreed, white, 60's who agrees with Rush 95% of the time. What amazes me is how people can be so nasty in their denunciation of him i.e., calling him a "pig". Brings me back to the days of adolescence when we called each other such names and were duly punished for talking so crudely. Then we grew up. Some of us changed for the better, others did not obviously.

Appealing to women a difficult balance
I understand changing the message so women get it, but I, for one, have radar for pandering and it insults my intelligence.

I guess a majority of women in this country have become used to thinking the way they "should" think and don't know there is any other way.

The way women are portrayed in entertainment only makes things worse. Desperate Housewives, Sex and the City. Or then there is the character that Glenn Close plays over and over--evil.

I think conservatives need to connect the dots for men and women--the general population is not educated well enough to understand principles--you have to s-p-e-l-l out for them how the principles (like smaller government) are going to benefit them.

Makes a case for reversing suffrage
Perhaps a Representative Republic like ours cannot survive in the long term using the general female mentality as any kind of guidelines, perhaps Ms Lukas is correct & women just worry TOO much be relied upon to make solid decisions regarding long term planning.
WE have and will be dealing with for the rest of our lives (and the lifetime of the Republic) the greatest criminal surge in financing and operations expansion ever seen in history with the fresh female voters of the early 20th century voting in prohibition, THE stupidest federal move until this bailout thievery.
Females voted in Prohibition, they are responsible for the presence of the massive mafias we have in this country. Al Capone in the last year of his operations, brought in over a billion dollars, in 1920s money, worth near a trillion today. This wealth didn't go away, it funded criminal operations into this century. There IS historical president for taking the vote away from women. no let the flames roll! heheheheheheh

BY THE NUMBERS


The numbers tell the story: since women got the vote, America has been on a steady leftward course. THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE HISTORICAL FACT.

One wonders if women had the vote, if this nation would even have been founded. How many women would have taken on the most powerful country on the planet like our founding fathers did? Note I said FATHERS. We didn't have any founding MOTHERS.

Through out history, it has been MEN who have founded nations and governed them. It has been MEN who have defended and protected those governments.

America screwed up when it gave women the right to vote and it screwed up even worse when it gave non property owners the right to vote. It really does not matter if Limbaugh gets women to see his side of things or whether they vote conservative ot not. It's over.

You were told this last election that we were at the tipping point and that once on that slippery slope, there would be no going back. Whether you understand it or not, you are going down that slope right now at a dizzying speed and indeed, there is no going back. All those women who didn't get what Limbaugh was saying will get what is comming whether they want it or not. I HOPE (pun intended) they like the CHANGE they can believe in because the changes they put in place in the last election are going to change America and those changes ARE NOT going to be good.

rush
so why has rush been divorced 3 times? just unlucky?

jaybird & wife; Black Prince, rivenburg,
JD's Handsome Son, Rowly and J-10

You folks need to find your cave and craw back in and stone up the entrance; you clearly are not ready for the 21st century or the people who live in the real world. Toro Boro comes to mind.
Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary defines:
Liberal comes from the root word liber or free.
As in not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy or traditional forms. Generous, associated with indiviaualism economic freed, greater individual participation in government; open-minded.

There were and are lots of founding mothers as well as unnamed slaves who fought and died for this country. Just because you are ignorant of their names and contributions does not make them less important. Our founding fathers were liberal mineded men (as opposed to the conservative tories who supported the king of England) and they made lots of mistakes including not heeding women and allowing slavery. You need to get your attitude adjusted or you will never survive, not in this current climate.

let me get this straight
the sense of this thread is that women have destroyed this country (along with those liberal socialists).

so sarah palin, condelizza rice, anne coulter, michelle malkin and others are not to be trusted as thinking individuals to make political decisions right.

now if you back up and say "no, those are exceptions", than i would maintain there are millions of exceptions and the whole argument is irrational and essentially mute.

Single Women the main gap...
Someone pointed it out earlier but I've read several times that the main gender gap occurs due to single women. The theory is that single women (esp. w/ kids) are more in need of gov't programs and hence vote for more Democrats. I can also tell you that I've brought up politics to a lot of single women over the years and many of the more affluent ones go Dem due to the abortion issue.

Feminist Credibility
To my thinking the feminists lost all credibility during the Clinton years. Here was a sleazebag who bedded almost as many women as Hugh Hefner. But the feminists turned a blind eye to the catting around because he was liberal and favored abortion.

Of course when it came to Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas they were ready to crucify him for the same possible actions because he was (horrors) a conservative.

I used to work with a woman who was a diehard Bill Clinton supporter and even thought we should have amended the Constitution again to allow him to serve more than two terms.

So I asked her if it would be alright if her husband cheated on her. She indignantly replied of course not. She said she would feel betrayed, outraged, hurt, etc. So I said what if he because a famous politician and people said the sex was no big deal, it's the economy stupid, we need him so we can overlook some indescretions.

She hemmed and hawed and weakly offered support for Clinton again but I had made my point. I don't care for Hillary but I am sure she was as hurt by Bill's shenanigans as my co-worker would have been if it had been her husband. Folks, male or female, we need to keep our brains in gear during this time. I believe both men and women can vote rationally or emotionally. It's up to you.

It`s SECURITY stupid!
Thanks so much, Carrie, for assembling the pieces of the puzzle. I had to print it. You have done what Rush has done for me for 10+ years, brought order to chaos. I plan to forward your "security" point to the RNC and my friends.

Women are Just Gullible
It's up to Conservative Women to fix it. Just go to the supermarket and look at all the trash in the magazine bins that women just lap up like fresh milk.

Alice in Georgia
Alice
Location: GA
Reply # 6
Date: Mar 4, 2009 - 11:11 AM EST jaybird & wife; Black Prince, rivenburg,
JD's Handsome Son, Rowly and J-10

You folks need to find your cave and craw back in and stone up the entrance; you clearly are not ready for the 21st century or the people who live in the real world. Toro Boro comes to mind.
_________

You will become credible when you offer the facts to refute my statement that "The numbers tell the story: since women got the vote, America has been on a steady leftward course. THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE HISTORICAL FACT."

Those ARE THE FACTS Alice, and they WILL BE THE FACTS no matter where I live, cave or not.

What you really want to say Alice, is that it is politically incorrect to state those facts. Ask me how much I care about political correctness as if you didn't already know. I am an unreconstructed southern MAN Alice. You need to make your argument to some white wine sipping,Volvo driving, bed wetting liberal non-female who is afraid to come out and play in the sand box with the big boys because he might mess up his hair.

As for me, I don't CARE what you think. Women have taken this nation from a strong nation to one who listens to Allen Alda instead of John Wayne. Excuse me all to hell and gone Alice, but Alan Alda wears pink lace panties and I like'em, I just don't like'm when men wear them.

Black Princeq
"Left of what? The Czar of Russia, King of England, Hitler, Mussolini? The founding fathers were considered to be left or liberal as they opposed the monarchy and its dictates (the monarchy being the status quo or conservative). So being an absolute historical "fact" is not entirely true, but an opinion based on your own political position. Since our founding as a country, women have fought in every war; as of lately, womeen have been recognized for their efforts in every war, including Iraq and Afghastan. Quite a few women have been disabled and died serving in the military; your opinion of their efforts is disrespectful to the least. We women pay at least 50% of the taxes in the country; we own at least 50% of all the private property, we do more than 50% of all the work (as most women work outside and inside the home). WE WILL HAVE OUR SAY, whether you like it or not.

Political correctness is just another term which demands that you respect the one you are talking to or about - civility should always mark political conversation or nothing is accomplished. Or do you just like to offend because you can, or do you seek to persuade another of your arguments?
All of my 5 brothers and their sons and daughters are southern; I have never once heard them say such filthy things to their daughters or daughter-in-laws; and they certainly do not condone or engage in physical or verbal violence against women. Several of my brothers have served honorably in the military and fought in several wars, including 3 tours of duty in Iraq, so please spare me.

As for John Wayne, I never cared for his demeanor/the roles he played; his treatment of Native Americans was shameful. And for Alan Alda and his pink lace panties; now how would you know what kind of underwear he wears? I might wear pink lace panties, but you'll never see them, not on a bet, a dare or a "come hither".

Another glaring example
of what's wrong with american women today. Sounds like what your saying is that today's american woman isn't capable of critical thinking, which if they were, would be able to arrive at the correct conclusions without everyone else having to appeal to their emotions.

I disagree completely. Whether male or female it's your responsiblity to arrive at logical conclusions and support logical policies and ideas. What you are suggesting is pandering to ignorance. That's disgusting and exaclty what has led us to the pathetic state we're in.

Alice, you are a true JOY
Kinda touchy there aren't you Alice? Facts seem to "bother" you because as John Adams said, "Facts are such stuborne things." If you are "offended" by facts Alice, you are in good company. Most of the left usually is. They much prefer to deal in emotions, which of course, is what most women do.

It is obvious that you attended the government schools Alice and have their view of those who took this nation from the savages who had it before. You leave out the convenient facts that if we had not so mistreated the native Americans, we would have dam little space to live and this nation would never have developed as it has to become what it is today.

I'm okay with the way things happened. I'm glad America spans from sea to shining sea. If people like you had your way, it would not be.

And your pitiful efforts to justify your position by saying your siblings are from the south and served in the military isn't the issue Alice. The issue is that conservative thought and goals are much different from those of most women as the history of this nation cleary documents since women got the vote and started affecting the political landscape.

Conservatives do NOT need women Alice. Women need conservatives. We are the only ones protecting them, if they have enough brains to understand that.

And uhhhh, Alice, you actually wear BVD boxers. I can tell. You have cajones.

Black Prince
No, I wear lace and silk underwear; BVD are for guys.
I don't need conservatives; I have had enough of the status quo in my life and it has never served anyone except it's own kind, whatever "its own kind is".
You are right, conservative goals and thought is different; so much so, that the civil war was fought not only over secession, but also over the issue of slavery - how status quo is that? The efforts of tens of thousands of women to right the injustices against them in terms of education, property ownership, career choice, parentship in face of divorce or abuse was thwarted by conservatives for decades; how status quo of them.
As a nation, we have often refused, even denied the efforts of people, not like yourself. We could have come further, but when a people only uses 50% of their brain power (men) to the exclusion of the other half (women), then you are always behind. Who knows, if women had been given their due, maybe we could have a cure for diabetes or heart disease by now, maybe we could have gone to the moon 20 years earlier. Stop your tirade against women and native americans, we aren't going way; if you can't respect us, then I'm sure a cave in Tora Bora will be waiting for you.

ALICE GA
Spoken like a true Liberal Alice, knowing you are a liberal we could just zerox your post from one of the other liberals on this thread and you could have saved some time. You lie when you say you have listened to Rush, no one with as closed a mind as you have would have listened very long, he requires his listeners to do some thinking for themselves, this lets out all liberals, they require someone to think for them and tell them what their opinion is. It requires a suspension of intelligence to believe that BHO,s policies will help anybody.

I Hate being made a part of a group
just by virtue of my sex! What must I do to get out from under the collective boo boo kissing prostitutes living off big Daddy Gubmint or their exclusive sugar Daddy husband? Neither are any different as far as I see it. Must I declare myself asexual?

Maybe what the worrying women of this country need is a case of tough love. Can you see many (any?) that would be the Abigail Adams or the pioneering women of today?

What we need is another straight talker, and most of all, a doer like a Maggie Thatcher. WOMEN NEED A GOOD EXAMPLE! To heck with the polls; they measure collective idiocy and they are used to push whatever agenda the poll taker has that day. Certainly most women polled have probably NEVER listened to Rush or have depended on the drive by media to provide them with excerpts. They don't take the time to understand what's going on and they must whether they have a family of 3 or 10! It is the key to their very survival and therefore they had best get selfish.

Then we can stop teaching down to women with garbage like "women's studies". Of course, before that comes the need of parents to tell and teach their daughters to aspire to great things which does not preclude becoming a wife or a mother.

Conservative Woman who dislikes Rush
I do not like Rush because he hollers too much, because he thinks liberated women are "feminazis" and mocks us, unseen and unknown, as "ugly lesbians" -- and because, like Bill O'Reilly, he is just too fond of the sound of his own voice.

I have been conservative since before "girls" were allowed to be heard as well as seen, but I am also independent and I stand on my own feet and when I go one on one with a man in my own business I frequently win. Men like Rush hate that -- and they have to call names and dismiss me as somehow an "un-woman" to take away the sting.

I agree with much of what Rush says, after scraping away the hollering and the blather, but I am not going to listen to him on a regular basis because I'm tired of being insulted. I don't ask him to change his ways, any more than I asked any of my past suitors to change. I just reject him and move along.

Conservative women

Anyone who has ever dated a diverse group of women or was observant at the work place knows conservative women are a cut above the rest.

Women as voters, and to Alice
John Lott, with whom you likely automatically disagree, showed that the size of government increased by a factor of three when women got the right to vote.

Women Need To Smarten Up
I agree with the writer that most women would rather be slaves if they can live in comfort than be free if it involves any risk of failure. Since women got the vote, we have degenerated from a free nation to a socialist craphole. Conservatism doesn't need women: it's the other way around. If women want to see the future , look at the past. Look at Russia, where nearly all babies are aborted and all men are hopeless drunks, to see what feminist socialism does to a society. No future. If you want to indulge in temporary comfort at the cost of future generations, keep supporting liberal fascism. The baby boomer feminazis have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel, and Obama is going to give all of them a nice big push with socialized medicine. Good riddance!

Women voters
I agree that most women vote with emotion and not their minds, My wife will not listen to Rush limbaugh, she thinks hes a drug adict(she heard this on one of her gossip shows) she voted for Obama because he has a nice smile, she should not be allowed to vote at all, every year i have to vote to cancell her out. I dont try to change her mind because its a waste of breath and time, when i try to explain what Obama is doing she holds her hand up in front of my face and says she knows what i am going to say, and yet i still love her. I am a died in the wool conservative married to a liberal and we get along with compromises on both sides, we dont argue politics or religion in my house, at least with each other, im an athest and shes Catholic, i take her to church but i wait in the parking lot. I would never try to force her to do anything i just point out why i feel the way i do and listen when she tells me how she feels, we have been married for 40 years.

We need more Thachers
MerryColin Location: AZ Reply # 3
Date: Mar 4, 2009 - 3:49 PM EST

What we need is another straight talker, and most of all, a doer like a Maggie Thatcher. WOMEN NEED A GOOD EXAMPLE!
------------------------
You are correct MerryColin. Maggie Thacher has more cojones than most men. If more women were like her, if they understand what she does about the nature of the world, the world would be a better place. Certainly it would be a safer one.

Alice

Darlin', YOU WIN!! I am a white male, bigoted, homophobe, obviously sexually dysfunctional, and I want to starve little kids and old people, not to mention start many wars to kill a lot of people. Now where have I heard that before?

I am so happy to see that you are not stereotyping anyone. You know the USA does not want to use profiles to catch Muslim bombers, so we search old grandmothers with grand children in their arms. After all, everyone KNOWS the Swedish ski team COULD bring a bomb on an airplane.

Logic and straight thinking are products of a disciplined and ordered mind Alice. They reject emotions and irrelevant data. You are very obviously female. Trying to have a rational discussion with you is like trying to butt heads with a fence post. But then, you are a liberal, so there isn’t a lot of difference between you and a fence post.

Have a great day Alice. I really do wish you all the best.

Conservatives need to win women?
Women who would NOT like to see their country destroyed had better rethink what's really important to them and their families.

The freedoms this country was founded on are being slowly eroded, and are now only put forward by conservatives. Liberals have declared war on the Constitution and are going all out to turn this country into a socialist state. Which means losing all liberty and freedom and having every aspect of your life dictated to you by the state. No more capitalism, no more freedom of speech, no more freedom of religion.

Think ladies!

patricia
oh i think they have thought about it. thats why obamas in the white house. you see most women would rather that they and their doctors make reproductive decisions instead of joe the plumber making those decisions for them.

Audi R10-Feminazi defined:
I'll TRY to do his definition justice. Basically a feminazi is any feminist LEADER (NOT every feminist or every independent women) to whom the most urgent issue in life is seeing to it that abortion not only remains legal with no restrictions at all but that as many abortions as possible HAPPEN.

When you see a counseling table near an abortion clinic and some girl is counseled to give birth and take the adoption option THIS is the kind of byatch who goes ballistic.

If she IS "pro-choice" why dose she get her uterus in an uproar when the choice is for life?

Interesting car choice, but I'll stick with the Aston V-8 coupe.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Merry Colin
Women's studies is not a garbage course. As an elective I took, we studied women throughout history and their impact. I was amazed; having never been taught anything about women's history, one would think we had no impact at all, but that is so far from the truth. I learned about such women as Vigdis Finnbogatotter, Gold Meir, Adrienne Clarkston, Michelle Bachelet, Jeanne Sauve', Vivian Fine,
Vanessa Mae, Sally Ride, Fanny Mendeissohn Hensel, Clara Barton Water, Lydia Marie Child and Elizabeth Blackwell, just to name a few. I have since studied and read on lots of other women. We women have had our impact in this country as well as other; just because it is not recognized by men or general history, doesn't make it irrelevant or garbage. You should look up some of these women and you too will get respect as they more than deserve to have their accomplishments recognized and honored.

Patricia
Calm down, the sky is not falling! It can't fall. As women, we hold up half the sky, so unless the men give out and you give out, the sky will stay in its place.
President Obama isn't a monster; he is a very talented man who wants a good life for his family and every American citizen. I think he will try and do right by all; just give him a chance; he has only been in office a little over 5 weeks!

Rush's women problem, Part I
Here is your un-PC explanation of why the independent women don't care for Rush.

1. For years, he broadcast the social conservatives' anti-woman agenda. No socon sees himself or herself as anti-woman--they tell themselves that they are really pro-woman--but the reality is that their ideas are very destructive to the individual. When I was a young lieutenant, Rush was going on and on about how women shouldn't be in the military. NOT a good time. He was also taking down working mothers, basically saying they weren't doing their job as parents, and he wasn't alone in that. He was maybe more cavalier about it. It bred a culture that felt hostile to life for a woman. I have always been pro-freedom, but I and a friend wondered at the time why any woman would be a Republican. The word "feminazi" actually sounded noble to me by way of comparison. Healthy women need work/career for psychological reasons, and most for financial reasons also. People have long memories, and they are not going to act against their own self-interest. They just won't.

He seems to have chilled out about it since the Iraq War and Sarah Palin, but I do wonder sometimes if it will come back at some point, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. To my knowledge, he has never offered any clarifications, apologies, or renunciations of those views. (I bear no ill will; we are all going to hell in our own way right now). But basically what happened was that he drove the smartest, most ambitious women away from the Party and left the Party with a greater-than-warranted share of the mush-for-brains, neurotics, and doormats.

Rush's women problem, Part II
2. On average, women are significantly more to the left than their male counterparts. Ms. Lukas talks a little about this, but the basis is that women usually have more negative beliefs about the nature of reality than men. Such beliefs include: Everything is difficult, that life is inherently so hard that it is impossible to get ahead, that anything could come along at any moment and take everything away from you forever so you HAVE to have a powerful social safety net/caretaker state. We are talking about a lot of basic beliefs about the universe that have built up over a long period of time, since childhood, and the believer is usually not conscious of them. As one poster mentioned, there are a lot of save-the-children type columns on Townhall, and if you read them, you can see these premises embedded within them. It will take a lot of work to drive these beliefs from the culture. You have to brazenly broadcast a set of messages over and over again like:

--The world is actually a very auspicious place for human beings, as long as we are free to pursue our own interests
--People have free will and are completely responsible for their actions
--You can do it, positive attitude
--Losses in life, whether sickness, bankruptcy, relationships, money, time, etc., are not permanent or insurmountable, as long as we remain free to better our condition
--People *should* pursue their rational self-interests first and not feel guilty about it
--Statism IS the thing we fear because it destroys personal safety and wealth; the concept of a societal safety net is a total illusion; the collectivists fail to take into account what *would* have happened if people had been free to utilize their money as they wish.
--By voting for statism, you are in essence attacking your own children and their long-term welfare, in addition to your own
--Statism is inherently physically unsafe, causing human suffering and death.

Alice
This is the best you could come up with? There are a heck of a lot of courageous, brilliant, and capable women TODAY as well as in history. I notice Ayn Rand didn't make your list though!

You said--------"You should look up some of these women and you too will get respect as they more than deserve to have their accomplishments recognized and honored."

Recognize and honor the dead? Think I'd much rather encourage women to learn from great MEN and women of history and emulate them; not worship them in some twisted "women's studies group"

Wendy Talks It Dead !

Sounds somewhat of a self-absorbed high maintenance trip there Wendy.

Zzzzzzzzzzz !


Rush
I listen to Rush Limbaugh everyday. He is brilliant. I am a 50+ female. We are the ones who vote the right way. I want obama to FAIL!!!

MerryColin
You miss the point entirely. Women's studies, like African-American or Native American studies exist because these topics are rarely covered in the run-of-the-mill survey courses offered in most colleges and universities. I went to college in the early 1970's and graduate business school in the mid 1980's; women scholars were rarely mention and when asked, often dismissed. To find out about topics of interest, and that is what college is about - discovery of the unknown; specialty courses exist to fill that need. Stop denigrading a course of study that is apparently of no interest to you. As for Ms. Rand, I'm sure she has much to offer; my list was just to make a point. I left off Georgia O'Keefe, noted NM artist, whom I greatly respect as well as Eleanor Roosevelt, Rosiland Carter, Margaret Albright, etc. These women make a difference everyday. Unless our routine survey courses in school begin to incorporate the achievement of women and minorities, the need for such specialty courses, like women's studies will always need to exist.

Conservatives and women
I'm a conservative female Rush listener. Conservatives are good at economic and social apologetics. However I have yet to see a conservative women's magazine, offering up relationship advice, food, budgeting and decorating tips as well as human interest stories WITHOUT being "slutty" and ragingly liberal like Glamour or Cosmo. I would also enjoy seeing profiles of highly successful young CONSERVATIVE women. You'd never see Michelle Malkin get Glamour's Woman of the Year award.

It seems like the stereotype of the conservative woman is one of those listed below:

1. Brain dead sorority blonde trophy wife.

2. Subservient, submissive fundamentalist under the thumb of a heavy handed authoritarian male, and thus too scared to be a liberal.

3. Illiterate, uneducated hillbilly.
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