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Tuesday, October 02, 2007
Carrie Lukas :: Townhall.com Columnist
Do the Facts Matter When the Subject Is Rush Limbaugh?
by Carrie Lukas
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A frustrating part of political discourse is the inability of both sides to agree on the facts. The effects of a new tax policy on the economy or the costs of a potential government program are often in dispute. But in the current dust-up about Rush Limbaugh’s so-called “phony soldier” comments, there cannot be a dispute about the facts. There is a transcript.

The transcript shows to whom Rush was referring when the phony solider comment was made. The conversation began with a caller complaining that the media never talks to “real soldiers” to which Rush says “The phony soldiers.” Moments later, he moves on to an example of a phony soldier—“Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth”—who had claimed to witness atrocities committed by American soldiers in Iraq. It turns out Jesse MacBeth wasn’t an Army Ranger at all. As Rush described:

In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth describes the horrors this way: "We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque."

Now, recently, Jesse MacBeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse MacBeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse MacBeth isn't an Army Ranger, never was. He isn't a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen.

Surely it isn’t out of bounds to describe someone who lied about his service a “phony soldier.”

Few people who hear the clip from Rush’s show in the media get to the part about Jesse MacBeth. They only hear the first short exchange between Rush and the caller. The caller says: “No, it's not. And what's really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media.” And Rush responds “The phony soldiers.”

Who is Rush referring to here? Arguably, it isn’t clear. It is clarified later when Rush discusses Jesse MacBeth, but even if you takes this clip in isolation, it is a gigantic leap to assume that Rush is referring to “our men and women in uniform who oppose the war,” as Senator Harry Reid has chosen to assume. The caller wasn’t talking about soldiers who oppose the war and Rush didn’t continue to talk about those who oppose the war, only to those who lie about their military service.

Yet the Democrats have used this exchange in an attempt to manufacture a scandal. Senator Reid is collecting signatures to urge Rush to apologize to the soldiers (for something he did not say). Senator Harkin in a speech on the Senator floor, not only accuse Rush of tarring soldiers in uniform, but assigns Rush the motive of greed: “Now what’s most despicable is that Mr. Limbaugh says these provocative things to make more money. So he castigates our soldiers, this makes more news, more people tune in, he makes more money.” For good measure Senator Harkin speculates that Rush might be “high on his drugs again.”

It is breathtakingly irresponsible behavior for a Senator to attack a private citizen like this on the Senate floor.

If we are in the business of assigning motives, let’s speculate about the Democrats’ motives for smearing to tar Rush. A few weeks ago Moveon.org ran a tasteless ad smearing a military general for “betraying” the country. The leaders of Democrats were uncomfortably silent about this attack on a public servant and soldier. Democrats have also just had the disappointing task of acknowledging that the American war effort is going better than they expected. Their push for an immediate pullout of Iraq has been stalled. Tarring Rush Limbaugh as anti-American soldier helps with both problems: it satisfies their base, who has been disappointed with Congress’s inability to exit Iraq, and gives them an opportunity to say that they support the military in spite of the attacks on General Patraeus.

It’s politics at its worst. The media has taken the Democrats’ bait and are covering this as a controversy, as if there is a question about the validity of the Democrats’ charges. There is no question. The facts are clear.

Certainly someone needs to apologize—but it isn’t Rush Limbaugh.

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Facts...
Don't matter to Limpbaugh, why should others stick to facts concerning her?
What's good for the gander is good for the goose.

Agreed,
The dems are idiots. They cannot comprehend sentences and determine context. They refuse to have an open mind that they may be wrong. It is all emotion.

Rush won. Reid is a moron, still insisting today that Rush said something he did not.

Rush is Right About Traitor Vets

Soldiers who go to Iraq and get shot, and then come back to criticise the President are traitors. Rush is right about that. Just because you got shot and wore the uniform doesn't mean you can undermine the war on terror. This phoney soldier is not with us, he must be with the Terrorists.

Also, we do not have soldiers to merely kill people and break things, our military has this awesome budget for a reason. We must endeavor to keep this occupation going and get better at it, because there still other countries we need to occupy.

challenged to a one on one debate
by http://www.votevets.org and the big coward wussed out.

Democrats
are pathetic. It is becoming apparent that they have come close to blowing the election of 2008 already. This morning I called Steve Israel's Washington office. I asked a staffer to inform the Congressman that he has made an absolute fool of himself before the world.


Israel, his voice squeaking with phony indignation, was condemning Rush Limbaugh for insulting "our soldiers". What an idiot. After the remarks of Dick Durbin, John Murtha and John Kerry, Israel has to be at least borderline retarded to think that he could get away with his hysterical rant.


Even Democrats must be embarrassed by this silliness. I don't mean the lunatic left, I'm referring to sane Democrats. (They are awfully quiet these days, aren't they?) Those people had better find their voices, because the whores who lead the Democratic Party today have sold the Party to the crazies.


I guess that I really shouldn't care if their Party is committing political suicide. But I think that we need a two Parties. The Republicans just showed us that by their dismal performance while in the majority.


When I see Harry Reid wasting taxpayers dollars trying to create an issue by deliberately distorting Limbaugh's comments, I know that America is in trouble. It seems that the American people will eventually have enough of these clowns in Congress, and toss them out of office.


Hey, I guess we need some new clowns in Washington. It might give us a breather while they develop their clown skills, and get a handle on how to steal Washington style.

eastlakejoe
actually i know many but those who did no longer use them where as rush did them recently and huge amounts

i still maintain though that if rush offended one veteran that is one too many. and we know he did but instead of apologising he wants to blame a vast left wing conspiracy.

Religeous L.
Answermy question. How many libs can you name that didn't do drugs during the 60s? Like I said, it would probably be easier to name one that did.

by the way
mcgough challenged rush to have any veteran from http://www.votevets.org on his show to debate the issue . lets see if rush has the guts to do it.

garryb
you are the one in the dark because of biased conservative media.

rushs reply was even more offensive to the brave wounded hero and he said so on national tv last night but you haven't seen that have you.


first he was offended at the analyogy of a suicide bomber that rrush madke and second he was offened because rush implied he had been duped .

mcgough ssid he had heard the show and read the transcipt and was not influenced by anyone and that there was no question in his mind that rush had offended many veterans.


and isn't that the bottom line if even one veterarn was offended than rush ,whether he intended to or not ,should understand that and apologise rather than blame a vast left wing conspiracy

religiouslib
The ad features Brian McGough, an Iraq war veteran who received the Purple Heart for a traumatic brain injury as a result of shrapnel he took to the head, in Iraq. In the ad, Brian makes it clear: "Rush, the shrapnel I took to my head was real. My traumatic brain injury was real. And, my belief that we are on the wrong course in Iraq is real. Until you have the guts to call me a "phony soldier" to my face, stop telling lies about my service."

It must be frustrating to be kept in the dark by your media outlet. If you had bothered to check, Rush did reply to Mr. McGough. He said he was sorry that the Media Matters had misrepresented what he said and praised him for his service and sacrifice.
Rush has to be the #1 Supporter for our Military, and to say anything else is a clear misrepresentation of truth. GET A LIFE!

...and to quote another "statesman"
"I don't know; maybe he was high on his drugs again..."

Overheard in a junior high schoolyard?

Nope, US Senator Tom Harkin D-Iowa, on the floor of the Senate.

renny...
one of the worst ones is Murtha, but Reid etal don't seem to have a problem with him leveling his aim on the troops.

Farmer's Wife
You got it.

None of those Dems. care about the military any more than my dog's left foot does.

If they cared, they would stop raising white flags and declaring the war is lost and all that soldiers have given is a failure.

They would stop trying week after week to undermiune ongoing success with meaningless deadlines for withdrawal and/or redeployment. They would support intelligence gathering instead of doing everything possible to impead it.

Harry Reid himself should be under indictment for sleazy land deals in Nev.

Everyone hear should email his website and tell him to RESIGN.

In the end, I think Reid's dispute with the dittoheads will prove much more of a bite than Reid ever meant to chew.

Be honest now, Democrat voters...
Did you elect these "leaders" of yours to stand on the floor of the United States Senate and engage in personal attacks on a radio talk show host? Not to mention that the attacks are totally baseless; Limbaugh's support for the military is more than obvious to all but those who refuse to "suspend their disbelief".

Is this what the congress of the USA is SUPPOSED to be doing? This is the Senate Majority LEADER? Some statesman!

Wake up, conservatives! We can't sit out the next election like the last time. This, apparently, is the best they have to offer.

charles
i was going respond but is. You are not liberal; you are totally uneducate about economics. Read the Road to Serfdom, tom sowell's books on economics and then we can talk about the natonal debt has no relevance to the welfare of the country but unfunded entitlements will destory the country the way we know; the marginal tax rates are about 35 per cent; when social secuirty goes thru the roof, something has to give. And the democratic party has no solutions; putting it off for political reasons. They are not liberals; they are irresponsible.

What is so funny
is even if Rush did say that about the soldiers, which he didn't, because I was listening. He has every right TO say it! We do still have a 1st Amendment.


This is all subterfuge to get away from them attacking Petreaus and calling him a liar.

Another funny thing is that the left thinks we are too dumb to notice.

challenging the left with...
facts and truth is a futile endeavor. Harry Reid etal are jokes. He and all the others, MSM etc. salivate when they find a way to disparage the military at large and individuals in the military. We have all watched them do it at every opportunity. Taking Rush's words and twisting them to fit their agenda is just another example of where their true allegiance does not lie.

Another lying libtard heard from...
Thanks religiouslib for further illustrating to everyone reading here what lying scum you libtards are. Your posts are filled with the most disgusting bile, lies, and distortions. Just what we would expect from a mindless drone capable only of regurgitating his masters' propaganda.

And oh yeah, you're a hypocrite too. I thought you libtards were all about feeling sorry for drug addicts and welfare recipients. I guess that's only if they're liberals. And as far as dating a liberal goes, nothing new there. Ever heard of James Carville and Mary Matalin? That seems to be working pretty well.

You're liberal intolerance is showing, scumbag.

The dittoheads should make
mincemeat of Reid.

Besides being a traitor who roots for a loss in the Middle East, he's always entangled up to his elbows in sleazy land deals in Nevada. Not much in the MSM about them.

Email Reid and just leave him one word: RESIGN. You can sign it RUSH. Reid'll know who you mean.

Rush vs. REid
Rush has invited Reid to come on his show and discuss his statement.

Did You Notice.....
A lot of leftie posters here have complained about Ann Coulter's "tone" & "venom" when she articulates her point-of view, but these same people attack Rush in the lowest, crudest, most venomous way possible? What you leftists don't get is that a majority of Americans view YOUR comments & tone the same way you look at Ann & Rush. The difference between them & you is that the FACTS are clearly on the side of Conservatives: if the facts were on your side, you wouldn't be lying all the time. If the democrat party CLEARLY articulated their plans & goals for America, they'd go the way of the Whigs.

Lets not forget that
Media Matters, Center for American Progress are
Hillary's Brown Shirts..she's on record for bragging that she helped start and supports them.
No rebuttals out there, DemonRats regarding Jesse MacBeth, instead you cite Votevets, a site
created by no other than, Weasley Clark, fmr.
FIRED NATO Commanding General. Yeah, we're gonna believe that fool. His spokes purrrson,
Josh Lonsdale falsely charged he was denied
care from V.A. for his battle injuries incurred during a rousing game of VolleyBall...Busted his ankle. BUT..he claimed he was in the "hot zone", 8/19/03 to evacuate the U.N. Bagdhad Hqtrs after a truck bomb. O yeah, He's a real
soldier that one.
He fits right in with Sen. Harking, D. Iowa who has claimed since 1984 he was a fighter pilot
in Vietnam, when he really was a ferry pilot, taking planes to the Philipines for repair while stationed at Atzugi Japan.
Murtha..questionable medals, calling real Marines
murderers. I pray those kids will nail his worthless hide to the wall.
John "Christmas in Cambodia" Kerry.
to name a few phoney soldiers, doesn't say much for them being real Americans either..treachery is still treachery and it's getting our kids
killed and wounded.
My grandson reports to Navy Boot Camp in a couple of months, he signed up as a medic and after he's finished training with his Marines once school is finished, he most likely will be deployed and I have zero tolerance for you bought and paid for, moonbat, Hilliary operatives. Skunks have more class than any one of you.

Religeouslib
You rant about Rushs drugs,Please name one dem that didn't use drugs in the 60s. I can guarantee it would be easier to name one who DID.

Hi Gunny
"The transcripts show that Rush never even hinted that a phony soldier was one who doesn't agree with the war. A phony soldier is exactly what he referred to. That fruitcake whom the moonbats quote as witnessing war atrosities, it turns out he didn't even have complete boot camp, never awarded a purple heart, and never been overseas. He has however been convicted and sentenced for posing as a soldier. The number of phony soldiers who are trying to claim VA benefits is growing. THAT is what Rush was referring to."

There are any number of reasons the Evil Left is blasting Rush. Here's another one: They want cover for whatever their phony soldiers say about the troops in the future. Jesse Macbeth was just one of many useful idiots for the Evil Left.

Hey Len
Your grandchildren are already paying through the nose thanks to Bush and Co. He has doubled our national debt (now at 10 trillion) Most of which is being held by the Chinese. That's right, them durned commies are now our bankers !!!

By the way, it's much more economical to buy by the ounce instead of purchasing individual joints. Liberals are much better at getting value for their dollar.


Thanks pandm
for your comments.

You're right. The Evil Left is going to feel the pain of an outraged American people next year. Election year. Rush has exposed the Evil Leftist plans for all to see.

religiouslib
Your news is old news. Rush is 56 now.

And what does all of this personal life stuff have to do with what the Evil Left is trying to do with him?

More Stalinist mind games here.

religous lib
Who do you talk to: Gang bangers, homophobes, sadists.

OF course Bush talks to conservative correspondents; you feel cheated.

They agree on most but not all. Are you not aware of how they opposed strongly on immigration.

they opposed him on medicare drug coverage which I have beneifted from at your expense; I am worth much more money than you are, I believe and I thankyou as a liberal reigious person for supporting my RX drugs out of your income when I dont need it. So, I can take the money saved and buy a few joints and take a trip to Florida all because there are suckers like you.

Thanks for being a religious lib. But no thanks, I think of the future and my grandchldren will end up paying thru the nose because of kind people like you who dont think beyond the moment.

len
i am not hateful jsut truthful.

here is a man who conservatives claim to revere who is everthing they claim is wrong with society.


i dislike hypocrisy and this man talks conservative and acts the way you accuse liberals of acting and no one calls him on it.





religous lib
Why are are you hateful in your coments about rush. The religious part is apparantly the worst of religion and the lib part is the worst of liberalism;
you picked an apt title for your yourself as you come across on these postings.

So what if he was on welfare. So what if was divored 3x and has a liberal girlfriend. She is obviously not a relig lib as you are.

IT is his current politics that is interesting.

Why are you so moral about his drug addiction. Drug addiction is worthy of notice if the individual is a problem to the society such as stealing, murdering or being a drag. To the extent that you function then nobody even religoius people are not concerned because noone would know or should know.

And anyway, what makes you better than Focus on the Family with your less than Christ like view to sinners. Join he club of religious intolerance in the name of religion and liberalism.
My great fantasy would be to lock you up with Jimmy Swaggert for a year. Both of you might come out saved from nonsense.


I'm
nearing 80yrs & never in all my life have i seen a congress as low & dishonest & other things i wouldn't call a rabid dog. Just how in the living hell we got this scum is totally mind boggling.
It is even worse than any nightmare i have endured.

Tere's reid, ted, nancy, hillary, schummer & a hog trough filled to the brim. Christ O'mighty!

religous lib
Would Obama be a candidate if he were a freshman senator with 2 years and no distinguished accomplishments. No.

Is he articulate. Yes. IS he like Sharpton and Jackson, no, in his speech but his policies are not different in substance.

HE appeals to white Americans because they pleased and shocked positively to see someone , a black in politics, who seems decent. He could be just as decent if white, but he would not be in the running.

Powell had accomplishments; rice has accomplishment or had them.
Sure, their blackness was a factor, but not the prime factor, For obama it is.

IT is the same kind of white nonsense that we need a black mayor or a black school teacher. What does black have to do with with being competent.

You have guilt; i dont. I have neither guilt or love for blacks, my loves and hates are toward invididuals.

gunny
talk radio is government controlled by the bush administrataion right now.

bush meets regularly with conservative talk show hosts to tell them what he wants them to say and then there is the talking points that are faxed to every host every day.

you guys are so worried about your fellow countrymen who you hate that what you fear is happening right in front of your eyes.
lol

rush dates liberal media
Conservative radio kingpin Rush Limbaugh, 53 who has announced his speration from wife Marta in early June, is dating CNN anchor Daryn Kagan, 41 a spokesman for Limbaugh has confirmed to us.

The two were spotted at a party Limbaugh co-hosted at a New York restaurant, where guests included VP Dick Cheney, NY Gov. George Pataki and Sen. Bill Frist.

The coupling came as a surprise to some friends who consider the Atlanta based Kagen as part of the liberal media axis and a feminist-but then again, opposites attract.

Kagen, who has been with CNN for 10 years, hosts 'CNN Live Today.'


These slimeballs don't do anything
without a reson. The sad thing is, they can perpetrate a bald-faced lie through the Mass Media and there are liberal air-heads out there who gobble it up as if it were gospel. But I digress. The entire reason for this dust-up is to start the process to get Rush off the air. They will bring up the "Fairness Doctrine" up again very soon now. It is just starting. There is some hope however, because I've been hearing where more and more people who are in leadership positions (not on the democRAT side) are speaking up on behalf of Limbaugh. Rush has NEVER said a negative statement about any serviceman who disagrees with the war.

Not only are liberal democrats moonbats, their leadership is a joke. Why do I say that? Am I just attacking the people and not the issue? How about this: The transcripts show that Rush never even hinted that a phony soldier was one who doesn't agree with the war. A phony soldier is exactly what he referred to. That fruitcake whom the moonbats quote as witnessing war atrosities, it turns out he didn't even have complete boot camp, never awarded a purple heart, and never been overseas. He has however been convicted and sentenced for posing as a soldier. The number of phony soldiers who are trying to claim VA benefits is growning. THAT is what Rush was referrering to.

Remember, this is what liberals do. This is their modus operandi. They will lie and say anything to further their pet causes. Right now, they know they have to get rid of Limbaugh because he is the only serious impediment to Hillary's run for president. These people are dangerous to the American way of life. If they had their way, Limbaugh would be doing hard labor in the Goolags of Siberia, and talk radio would be government controlled.

leftisevil
of course his corporate sponsor clearchannel which carries most of air america's stations also.lol

it is fascinating to me that the family valules party is in love with a guy who is a drug addict has been divorced 3 times, is dating a liberal and was on welfare early in his career.


theleftisevil
Your 11:46am post was great.

I have to wonder if these bottom feeding liberals realize they are drawing a line in the sand and will eventually lead all of us into a civil war. There won't be any winners, we all lose.

I have also said, this country is like big pot of beans. It takes a long time for it to boil, but boil she will.
People can laugh at my wisdom(or lack of) but someday you won't.

Maybe religiouslib could...
...get away with his anti conservatives smears, but he can do so no longer.

Neither will any other Evil Leftist get away with their Stalinist attempts to repeat the Big Lie. We conservatives are fighting back and we will continue to fight back until we get America back.


Check out this outtake from the response letter from ClearChannel to Harry Reid:

Here is an outtake from the letter sent to Harry Reid by ClearChannel in response to his viscious anti-Rush letter:

“I hope you will appreciate that I cannot speak with authority as to whom exactly Mr. Limbaugh’s comments were directed, or what was his intent. Only Mr. Limbaugh can speak to those issues, which he has done.

I can say, however, that over the years Mr. Limbaugh has repeatedly praised the dedication and valor of our brave men and women in uniform.
Given Mr. Limbaugh’s history of support for our soldiers, it would be unfair for me to assume his statements were intended to personally indict combat soldiers simply because they didn’t share his own beliefs regarding the war in Iraq.”

http://download.premiereradio.net/guest/rushlimb/pdf/reidletter_071002.pdf


GOP resolution Part 3
Whereas during the original invasion in 2003, pilots of five different aircraft flew an American flag in Mr. Limbaugh’s honor during their bombing and refueling runs; and

Whereas Mr. Limbaugh’s commitment to American troops serving both here and abroad remains as strong as ever: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House of Representatives—

(1) recognizes Rush Hudson Limbaugh III for his support of the Marine Corp Law Enforcement Foundation and for providing free subscriptions for active-duty servicemembers;

(2) recognizes Mr Limbaugh’s desire to see American troops achieve a successful outcome in Iraq, Afghanistan and wherever soldiers are stationed; and

(3) commends Mr. Limbaugh’s tireless public support for American troops and their families through radio broadcasts, fundraising and other public support.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/10/gop_rep_introduces_resolution_commending_rush_for_support_of_troops.php

Eat it, Evil Leftists.

GOP resolution Part 2
Whereas the need to show support for American troops serving and fighting both here and abroad during a time of global conflict has never been greater, with the need to communicate an uplifting message of encouragement to American soldiers eternally important, in addition to the morale-boosting value of personal visits to region by highly-regarded individuals;

Whereas daily radio broadcasts reaching tens of millions of civilians and soldiers both in America and abroad by way of the Armed Forces Radio Network are conducted five days a week by Rush Hudson Limbaugh III;

Whereas Mr. Limbaugh has consistently used his broadcast time to praise American troops and support them during their ongoing efforts to secure peace in a troubled world;

Whereas Mr. Limbaugh made a week-long visit to meet with troops based in Afghanistan in 2004;
Whereas Mr. Limbaugh has raised and donated millions of dollars to the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation, which provides college scholarships to the children of Marines and veterans of other branches killed in action;

Whereas Mr. Limbaugh’s website features an “Adopt a Soldier” program which provides them with free subscription access to his online program features;

GOP resolution Part 1
If you’re sick and tired of Harry Reid’s lies about Rush, here’s some refreshment for you:

GOP Rep. Introduces Resolution Commending Rush For Support Of Troops

By Greg Sargent - October 1, 2007, 4:49PM
Here's a fun little twist in the Rush Limbaugh "phony soldiers" brouhaha -- a GOP member of the House has introduced a resolution praising Rush for his "relentless efforts to build and maintain troop morale."

What are those efforts? Well, they're largely his radio broadcasts, according to the resolution, which was submitted by Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), though there's a reference to a bit of pro-troop charity Limbaush's said to have engaged in. You can read the full resolution after the jump.
Commending Rush Hudson Limbaugh III for his ongoing public support of American troops serving both here and abroad. Recognizing Mr. Limbaugh for his relentless efforts to build and maintain troop morale through worldwide radio broadcasts and personal visits to conflict regions.

Hi, MichaelD
Thanks for your comments and your service. Here are some URLs I compiled on this story listed in my blog:

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2007/09/rush-limbaugh-phony-soldiers-flap-abc.html

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/30/abc-reported-phony-heroes-three-days-rush-limbaugh-did

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/09/30/rush-limbaugh-phony-soldiers-and-the-lefts-desperate-need-for-its-own-betray-us-moment/

And check out this video from ABC News. They busted a number of these phony soldiers, including Jesse Macbeth. You will have to put up with a short commercial first:

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3645227

Here's one I just found out about. Bryan York of NRO has a long, most excellent analysis of the Rush Limbaugh and the Phony Soldier story here:

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NzQzZGJkM2E1NWI5NmNjMTAzNTQ4YTk1ZDRhZTMyNWY=

Dems are Evil Leftists...
...who are attempting a very nasty Stalinist tactic to shut up ANYONE who disagrees with them.

I'm listening to Rush Limbaugh's show as I'm writing this. Rush (just a few minutes ago) made his most serious charge yet against Dems. He says they've become Stalinist and are attempting to scare everyone who disagrees with them into shutting up. If we don't, they'll try to destroy us the way they're trying to destroy him.

It's worse than that. Rush believes that if they ever take full control of the government, they will use the government to shut us up, using laws and the government's monopoly over the most lethal force to FORCE us to shut up.

Goodbye freedom, goodbye democracy, goodbye Republic, goodbye America.

I agree with him. I've been calling these people Evil Leftists for a reason. Rush has summarized the reason extremely well.

Can you imagine Hillary with the power she so clearly desires? Do you remember Hillary with those 500 FBI files it was illegal of her to have? Can you envision here with YOUR private information?

2008 won't be a normal election year. It will be all-out war for our freedom. Be there, ready to fight.

Democratic Party Brown Shirts
The people working out of Media Matters and other Democratic Party internet sites are nothing but Democratic Party Brown Shirts. Goebbels said (paraphrasing, I can't recall the exact quote) to tell the big lie, repeat it loudly, over and over again and the public will believe it."

As you can see from the lefty messages here many believe it. Because they want too.

The Left Is Evil
We Vietnam veterans would refer to scum like Jessee MacBeth as a "wannabe". History of the not too distant past is replete with many examples of jerks posing as Vietnam Veterans, Special Ops, POW's, Medal of Honor recipients (and if they ate not a MoH recipient and claim to be that in itself is a Federal)crime, and so forth to gain favors, make a profit, or for their own pitiful self-aggandizement.
An excellent resource for information on this phenomenon is "Stolen Honor". Get it and read it. It'll really torque you off at these impostors.

HOOAH!!

Michael D.

PC speech
You can say: Asians score higher than Whites, Blacks, hispanic on the SAT.
And you can say white scores higher than Blacks.

But if you say blacks are WORST or at the BOTTOM of all test scores, then people feel offended.

And the result is that intelligent covversaton seeking solutions becomes impossible because the conversaton gets diverted to defending yourself agains racism.

The magic negor is poking clean fun at Obama whose essential reason for being in the race is his color whereas if Rice or Powell were running it would be their past achievements that would be in the forefront. Hence "magic" is appropriate satire and nothing to do with "hate". The truth hurts expecially to the liberal thought police.

Limbaugh: Sen. Harry Reid Should Resign
Check out this outtake from an excellent NewsMax article on the Rush Limbaugh v. Harry Reid story. Harry Reid resigning. A lovely dream that probably won't happen. Nevadans will have to pry Harry's cold dead hands off of Senatorial power on Election Day:

Talk-show giant Rush Limbaugh sharply escalated his war of words with Democrats in the Senate Tuesday, calling for the resignation of Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev.

He also characterized as "boneheaded" Reid's effort to enlist senators to pressure Limbaugh's syndicator, Clear Channel Communications, to censor him.

"And the thing that we ought to demand here," Limbaugh told his listeners, "is that Harry Reid step down and resign as the leader of the Democrats in the Senate, for his constant, uncontrollable contempt of our armed forces; his repeated use of our troops for political purposes. Harry Reid has failed in his mission to lead the Democrats in the Senate, to get what they want . . . He is the one who is dishonoring the troops; he is the one who is making a mockery of their service."

Reid has charged that Limbaugh called America's service personnel in Iraq "phony soldiers."
Limbaugh's remarks appeared to actually refer to a specific soldier, Jesse Macbeth, who appeared in a YouTube video stating that he and other American soldiers had killed Iraqi civilians. Macbeth was later sentenced to five months in prison for falsifying his service record.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/limbaugh_harry_reid/2007/10/02/37465.html?s=al&promo_code=3AC0-1

If clicking on a link is too tough...
...for you Evil Leftists, check out this outtake of the Magic Negro op-ed from the LA Times:


March 19, 2007

AS EVERY CARBON-BASED life form on this planet surely knows, Barack Obama, the junior Democratic senator from Illinois, is running for president. Since making his announcement, there has been no end of commentary about him in all quarters — musing over his charisma and the prospect he offers of being the first African American to be elected to the White House.

But it's clear that Obama also is running for an equally important unelected office, in the province of the popular imagination — the "Magic Negro."

The Magic Negro is a figure of postmodern folk culture, coined by snarky 20th century sociologists, to explain a cultural figure who emerged in the wake of Brown vs. Board of Education. "He has no past, he simply appears one day to help the white protagonist," reads the description on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro

He's there to assuage white "guilt" (i.e., the minimal discomfort they feel) over the role of slavery and racial segregation in American history, while replacing stereotypes of a dangerous, highly sexualized black man with a benign figure for whom interracial sexual congress holds no interest.

As might be expected, this figure is chiefly cinematic — embodied by such noted performers as Sidney Poitier, Morgan Freeman, Scatman Crothers, Michael Clarke Duncan, Will Smith and, most recently, Don Cheadle. And that's not to mention a certain basketball player whose very nickname is "Magic."

Barack the Magic Negro
Why isn't Barack the Magic Negro racist? Because BLACKS were questioning Barack's blackness.

And as we all know, blacks can't be racist because they have no power (did you notice that bulge in my cheek when I wrote that?)

Check out the LA Times op-ed on Barack the Magic Negro. That's where Rush, Paul Shanklin, and 20 million Americans instantly got the idea for the spoof based on the kids song "Puff the Magic Dragon."


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail

What is the lesson?
I took the following outtake from my blog yesterday; click on my name to read the rest of my posts on Rush Limbaugh and the Phony Soldier:

What is the lesson we should learn about these Dem slanders of Rush Limbaugh and our troops? It is simply this: It’s time we take back America by systematically voting these 21st century Benedict Arnolds OUT OF OFFICE!!! How do we do that? ORGANIZE. Pick a good, solid conservative politician in your district or state, and SUPPORT him or her THIS YEAR in preparation for the primaries and the general election NEXT YEAR.

[Are you listening to me, citizens of Nevada? You know what Harry Reid is now. Next time he's up for re-election, you will have no excuse if you vote for him.]

And then REPEAT this procedure election after election until we have an unbeatable, veto-proof, solid majority of pro-American Republicans in Congress.

No, we can no longer get along. No, we have no more common ground. The Dems are Evil Leftists, traitors, and our enemies.

We will not forgive. We will not forget.

And then to prove TheLeftIsEvil can...
...be nice, here's my e-mail to Fox News after their interview:

Thank you for the interview this morning (between 8:30 and 9:00 CDT) with the Congressman who is working on passing a commendation for Rush Limbaugh’s excellent work in supporting our troops.

I KNOW Rush NEVER said troops who questioned the war are phony; he was referencing to phony soldiers like Jesse Macbeth who lied about their service.

We often immediately notice reporting that enrages us and ignore that which gratifies us. I thought I’d break that tendency by taking note of your excellent reporting this morning.


Too true. I heard the lies on MS NBC
Part 2

Here is the relevant outtake from Rush’s transcript on this subject. It is available on his web site for free. You don’t need a secret membership decoder ring to get in:

[Right here I inserted the outtake from Rush’s transcript.]

This kind of reportorial incompetence is driving us Americans to radio talk shows where we get the news straight, undoctored by the Democrat spin doctors. When 24/7 TV cable news channels began, we HOPED we’d get reports from around the world from places we average Americans had no hope of ever seeing, reporting on events we’d have no access to, interviews with people with expertise we have little knowledge of, and breaking news of live events we had to know about, like the September 11 attacks.

You have mastered only the last. You’ve failed us in ALL of the other aspects of news. Instead we get Democrat talking points, Brittany Spears and her custody battle, OJ, OJ and more OJ, and news we can easily get, accurately and in great detail on the Internet.

If you’re wondering why your ratings are so low, well, now you know. Are you going to do something about it? Somehow I doubt it.

I consider the two paragraphs I wrote after I inserted Rush’s outtake to be the best summation of why I detest the MSM. Do you agree?

Check my web site for earlier posts on Rush Limbaugh and the Phony Soldier.

Too true. I heard the lies on MS NBC
Part 1

"The transcript shows to whom Rush was referring when the phony solider comment was made. The conversation began with a caller complaining that the media never talks to “real soldiers” to which Rush says “The phony soldiers.” Moments later, he moves on to an example of a phony soldier—“Army Ranger Jesse MacBeth”—who had claimed to witness atrocities committed by American soldiers in Iraq. It turns out Jesse MacBeth wasn’t an Army Ranger at all."

Here is the e-mail I sent to MS NBC after their Wesley Clark interview:

This morning, between 8:30 and 9:00 CDT, I had the misfortune of stumbling onto an interview with General Wesley Clark on MS-NBC dealing with what Rush Limbaugh supposedly said on his talk show about phony soldiers. The reporter never said what Rush really said; she merely repeated Democrat talking point on how Rush denigrated the troops by calling those who question the war in Iraq as phony warriors. And Clark, being the partisan Democrat that he is, played along.

If she had had the slightest hint of the inquisitive reporter within her, she would have found out what this rank amateur found out with very little effort by listening to Rush and checking certain web sites on the Internet. Rush DID NOT accuse ANY real soldiers of being phony soldiers; he was referencing a man named Jesse Macbeth and men like him who made up all kinds of war stories about themselves when actually they either never served in the military or (as with Macbeth) they were drummed out of basic training.


Lilly, you're a moron...
And a lying liberal loon. Why on earth would I willingly subscribe to having my inbox filled with liberal filth every day? Why would I want to go to your masters' site and read their trash? I don't have to. All I have to do is turn on CNN to hear your fellow travelers parroting the official dogma. Or I can come here and read all the talking points from you and the other libtard trolls who show up to do your duty and spread the propaganda. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

I heard Rush with my own ears. I can read and hear the FULL transcript on HIS web site. THAT would be going to the source. Of course, you have to have conservative commentary filtered by your masters at Media Matters before you can read it. Otherwise, you might read or hear something that contradicted the worldview they've created for you and the other mindless drones. I, on the other hand, am more interested in reality. You know, what I can see and hear with my own eyes and ears.

So go on back to reading your inbox full of libtard propaganda. I hope you enjoy it. Just a little advice, though: Liberal Utopialand isn't real. If you keep living there, you're going to get burned. Conservatives aren't your real enemy and you're going to find that out the hard way someday. At least, I sure hope so.

mickey
you throw up(literally and figuratively) things you claim are facts which are nothing more than rumors.

by like alot of conservatives you only think with your emotions and base nothin on facts.

here is a fact.

rush limbaugh was on wefare, has been divorced 3 times, his last girlfriend was a liberal and he is a drug addict .

Marine 43
Marine 43 you hit the nail squarely on the head. All of you liberal, socialist, communist, maggots out there, are so stupid, that you do not realize that the enemy will kill all of you first. Your First Amendment, and all Amendment, rights are out the window when the left takes over. Rush has more honesty and integrity than any of the left's idols. Rush never raped anyone (Slick Willie's victime). Rush never murdered anyone (Mena, Arkansas, Vince Foster, Ron Brown,Mary Jo Kopechne). Rush has never sucked at the public trough as has all of the millionaire Dem's in Congress. I'm 64 years old, and I hope that the bottom falls out real soon, so that I can participate in the coming war against the left.

Semper Fi,

WMR

Patriot Defender
Hal D. must be sick today. I've seen at least 3 or 4 Posts on other collumns that say how good WR is and vets health care is good and I haven't seen him foaming at the mouth yet.

There WAS a time
when the liberal media would have stopped Rush; but now there's a record of what Rush has said, and there are records about what is being said about him. Those interested in truth can examine for themselves the veracity of the claims. All the rest will believe what others TELL them happened.

My experience with Rush is that he welcomes those who disagree with him. He does not attack them personally. The problem is too many of the liberals that get through do not do a very good job of making liberals look smart.

an answer to Malibu Ken
What you wrote is unbelivable...
You absolutely do not know what you are talking about.
You should go watch the video on http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
(the video of what happened)

what am I saying ...silly me ...for a democrat the truth does not matter.


ABC's phony heros story 2 days earlier
Ruch probably relied on the 2 day old story by ABC news on phony heros - google this: ABC news "phony heroes" and see what comes up. The word IS PLURAS in the ABC News story.

Crucial fact about Rush Limbaugh
He's not actually partisan in the targets of his criticisms. His language may be somewhat unrefined, but the message isn't wrong!

Murtha
Murtha will have to answer a deposition on a legal case where our soldiers who were libelled by Murtha, and now cleared, are suing him for libel and a CONSERVATIVE LEGAL GROUP for once, took the case. Oh my. Maybe the ACLU won't have a free reign to threaten and intimidate people. Maybe the conservatives are getting around to having a conservative reaction.
I think all these attacks on conservatives is not only about Moveon.org, but also about Murtha.





Marine43
Couldn't have said it better myself.

touj
People like you scare the hell out of me, And i'm a Marine! God help this country,Anyone i know is simply pro American. Both sides, but i do notice alot more one issue voters on your side.Except when it comes to killing babies.You all don't seem to mind that unless its our enemies.Remember this my conservative friends, truth is what it is. The libs will never let that stop them. Because by time Rush gets the truth out, enough rubes like malibu barbie , dogg, and touj will have already swallowed the bait. They don't want truth, they want results. And sadly too many americans aren't paying attention. The libdems rely on a uninformed,lazy , ignorant ,rabble ,to carry the day for them. And it may happen,just look at the crap on tv etc..etc...Keep praying,maybe with GODS help.....

Indeed the screaming monkeys
Have arrived, flailed about spectacularly and drooped their guano.
For all you dummies out there: Spoonfed by media matters Lily, Valley boy, touj, Robert(todayI amPrincessGrace) and Hal(is)Delusional,

You could go to youtube and see the video monologue of Rush's show. How many of you will, Zero. Because you all insist that Rush doesn't care about facts. Spare me. Anything he puts on his website is backed up by facts. Distortion by the media or anyone else doesn't matter. And for all you asshats that call him names...Don't forget about eating your own...

Harry"Land Deal I am a traitor" Reid
John "I am a traitor Abscam" Murtha

John "the media misinterpreted my comment, I am a traitor,too Kerry

Teddy "I am a drunk who lies about drowning a woman and gets away with it" Kennedy

Red Nancy "I meet with "terrorists" to undermine US policy" Pelosi

Diane "There are no conflicts of Interest" Feinstein

So, what'll it be? Continual castigation of Rush, or finally taking care of your own scum-- who do not tell the truth and practically never back anything up with facts. Rather they just muck them up with the way they wish it could be in their own little worlds....IF those asssholes who denounce freedom of speech had any standards, they would have loudly denounced those who called Bush a nazi or Petraeus the betrayer. But you didn't hear it, did you? THe double standard applies here.
That is what should make you people afraid...the infringement of your freedom of speech, yet you all miss the whole point of that, don't you?

Harkin and Kerry
I thought Rush was talking about Harkin, who claimed to have flown missions in Nam. Of course Harkin was lying until called on it.

And then there is Kerry, who has memories seared in his brain about Cambodia until called on it. Both liars, big time.

And then Rush clarifies, he was talking about MacBeth, who had similar wartime experiences as Kerry did, you know brutalizing the enemy, until both were called on it. And found to be liars.

And all the Lib posters here who are parrots, and of the school that if myou repeat the lie often enougn it must be true.

And when will Francois Kerry release his military records as promised many times? Dan Blather, you are a "former Marine", so when can we expect to see your record? And Francois Kerry, when can we expect to see the lawsuit against the Swiftboaters? Afraid of discovery?

Senator Harkin, tell us more about your Nam experiences! Liar! Phony!

Liars all, and their parrots here propagate the same lies, MSM willing.

I Concur With The..
...post above, he does seem to have some 'issues'. Could we soon see another 'Haggard' type incident?
The late great Bill Hicks had a few things to say on the matter, not for the feint hearted though!!!

The bottom line
is that Rush has been licking Bush's boots and supporting all kinds of Bush bs. Now he is paying for it. And the republicans will pay if they do not stop this continuous head in the sand support of the Iraq mess. The invasion was great....the nation building is stupid and a disaster. Bush is destroying America, the military, the Republican party and alas he even got Limbaugh.....and Rush's ratings are down. He probably would rejoice in a Hillary victory....what you want to bet.

Rushie Limbotomy
I listened to Rush's show the day he made those infamous phony soldiers remarks. He did imply more than one soldier. But, it probably would be forgotten by now if he just would have fessed up instead of lying and editing his tape! He keeps digging a hole for himself because he has gotten away with his deceptive behavior for so many years now. The main problem is that his minions defend his
dis-functional behavior and appear to be part of his conspiracy. And he DOES love being the center of attention for ratings.
He is starting to look pathetic and ever more juvenile. When a guy gets busted for drugs and needs
Viagra to function, he has a problem. His wives say he did not function sexually. Come on Rush,
get out of your closet and tell the truth.

I'm No Fan...
of Limbaugh but it seems obvious to me that his remarks have been taken out of context, just like Kerrys were about being stuck in Iraq and, from what I remember when I lived in the US, Howard Sterns were about Columbine.

To all you left leaning posters
Would you mind answering a question for me? Where do you want America to go? What is your ideal for the US of A? Perhaps more specific to Lilly.. Does Media Matters give their dream of the way they'd like to see America become, if all they're wishes came true? And if I sign up, will I find their manifesto contained in one of the dozen articles they send out? Just curious to see where you want to take this country.

The fake patriots
Rush should talk, when he dodged Viet Nam military service with his trick knee, or pilonidal cyst, or perforated eardrum. I can never remember which one was his excuse and which was fellow fatty Pat Buchanan.

I expect he wants a foreign service award for his Viagra-fueled wrestling matches with tag teams of little brown boys in the Dominican Republic.

It does work, Henry!
Loser(s) communist(s) left-wing radical(s) demigod(s) fool(s) idiot(s) simpleton(s) weakling(s) defeatist(s) traitor(s) hypocrite(s) abortionist(s) tax assesor(s) phonie(s) liar(s) jelly fishe(s) blowhard(s) socialist(s) briber(s) disgrace(s) dishonor(s) denigrate(s) stoic(s) fatalist(s) dictator(s) devil(s) deceive(s) lie(s) criminal(s) drunk(s) racist(s) coerce(s) besmudge(s) agitate(s) asse(s) prejudice(s) abuse(s) pantomine(s) hindrance(s) grandstand(s) gossip(s) quiter(s) forsake(s) fascist(s) authoritarian(s) exploit(s) elite(s) err(s) deride(s) counteract(s) disheartened(s) villain(s) blame(s) spit(s) rodent(s) retreat(s) moron(s)... By God, You're right, Henry! If you put an "s" after a word, it means all instead of one!

Check this out
"Drugs Limburger is a liar and a hypocrite, as his own doctoring of the tape proves. How can you defend his doctoring of the tape?"

The part edited out was irrelevant to the discussion. It did not change the context. You're grasping at straws there.

"on more than one news bradcast this evening they caught rush editing one and a half minutes from the actual statement and in fact armed forces radio edited out the phony soldiers comment when played over seas."

Almost without exception the mainstream media are cheerleaders for the Socialist (Democrat) Party. So of course they would stress the editing, making it appear to be something it wasn't. Did the MSM mention Rush's reference to Jesse MacBeth in their broadcasts. Did they focus on the editing as if it were the end-all and be-all of Rush's comments?




This is so ridiculous
I'm so sick of hearing this back and forth rehetoric and resolutions and inquiries and resolutions. This is ridiculous. This is not why we elect representatives. Maybe it's just that election season is around the corner but I am getting so sick of all of this. I could care less what Rush Limbaugh said, I could care less about just about anything that comes out of the news these days. Our elected "representatives" are acting like whiny little kids who only want what they want. This is all so irrational, and it takes away from all of this country's real problems. Regardless of what you think those problems are, this is not them. These politicians wonder why fewer and fewer voters turn out for elections, here is a perfect example. I am so sick of hearing about all this crap that I am less and less inclined to vote. Why should I? To promote more of this circus? None of these people represent me, and they don't deserve votes. They deserve scorn.

Carrie Lukas
You are so full of it!

"The caller wasn’t talking about soldiers who oppose the war"

Here's what the caller said, just before Rush's "phoney soldiers" comment:
"what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media."

So, who was the caller referring to? He doesn't say anything about fake or phoney soldiers, only soldiers who speak to the media against the war.

Unless he's as dumb as Rush apparently is, and believes that the only soldiers who've ever spoken out are fake soldiers. That's what happens when you get all your news from the Drudge Report and Fox.

To hardcase
It is very easy to find out if Media Matters is lying or taking quotations out of context. Here is how you do it: subscribe, free and online, to Media Matters. They will fill your mailbox every day with dozens and dozens of items. Each and every item will be followed by a transcript in which the target item is shown in its full original context. Then make up your own mind. I am sure you will want to do this---by going to the primary source and judging for yourself---since your posts makes it clear you don't think much of "mindless drones" who obey their "puppet-masters". Just subscribe to Media Matters and find out for yourself.

jbird
You say that Rush Limbaugh reports news that the mainstream media refuse to cover. The first time I ever heard Rush Limbaugh on the radio he was saying that Bill and Hillary Clinton had murdered Vince Foster. This charge was later investigated in a court of law; no evidence was found to support the charge. I remember also that Matt Drudge reported John Kerry was having an affair with an intern, but this turned out not to be true. And there's an item on townhall tonight saying that President and Mrs Clinton decorated the White House Christmas tree with "sex toys and drug paraphernalia". I haven't read any of this in the mainstream media. Do you think maybe they didn't report unfounded nasty rumors because they were unfounded nasty rumors? Or are you saying that ALL of the professional journalists and editors, not to mention officers of the court, in this country are lying and only such as Limbaugh and Drudge are telling the truth? Doesn't that sound even a little bit nutty to you?

You libtards sicken me...
You libtard scumbags have reached a new low. There is no ambiguity about Rush's remarks. I heard them myself and what your puppetmasters, Media Matters, are saying is a bald faced lie. By slurping up those lies and regurgitating them here, you are proving yourselves to be mindless drones who cannot think for themselves and have sold their souls to the democrat party for a handful of change. There's no point trying to debate you because anything you say is a lie. Every post by a libtard on this page bears that out. You are pathetic lying scum.

here is what one vet said
The ad features Brian McGough, an Iraq war veteran who received the Purple Heart for a traumatic brain injury as a result of shrapnel he took to the head, in Iraq. In the ad, Brian makes it clear: "Rush, the shrapnel I took to my head was real. My traumatic brain injury was real. And, my belief that we are on the wrong course in Iraq is real. Until you have the guts to call me a "phony soldier" to my face, stop telling lies about my service."

Maybe Rush was able to get away with such smears in the past, but those days are over. No one - especially someone who never had the courage to wear the uniform - is going to pass judgment on us and go unchallenged. He, and others, can expect that VoteVets.org will be right there to represent and defend the voice of America's troops and veterans.


robert
the democrats don't want to accept the blame for back stabbing our troop and under mining the war effort in every way, including telling the enemy how we are finding them. but rush does point this out.

Tokyo Rose and Axis Annie
There were two famous broadcasters during WWII who did radio broadcasts designed to demoralize Allied soldiers, trying to convince them that the war was unwinnable. They both did serious jail-time for treason.

Today they would be Senate Majority Leader and Speaker of the House.

Rush Limbaugh correctly identified phoney soldiers as phoney soldiers, and Harry (we can't win) Reid has the audacity to attack him on this bogus charge? That's moxie.

ps I never listen to Rush, he's not my style, so don't accuse me of just being a "ditto-head"

No ambiguity
There is no ambiguity in Rush's comments. Period. His 'phony soldiers' remarks were all made in the context of that epitome of phony soldiers, Jesse MacBeth, and those of MacBeth's sorry ilk. God bless you, Rush, and God bless all our brave servicemen and women, whom Rush backs to the hilt each and every day. As for our phony Democrat members of congress, all you're good for is spreading slander, defamation, calumny and ill will -- p'tooey.

Hilliery is a communist
She has already stated that she wants all the profit of Exxon/Mobil.

Will she apologize or condemn Media Matters for their purposeful distortions? Never. She is more equal than others.

Please note that she is not a soviet, she wants all the power for herself.

As for Democratic's concern for facts, they must be hidden in Sandy Burglar's pants, where there is "no legal controlling authority." Dependent of course on what the meaning of "is" is.

private schmivate
"It is breathtakingly irresponsible behavior for a Senator to attack a private citizen like this on the Senate floor."

No, the problem here is not that a senator took after a private citizen. As Rush himself acknowledges, he is a public figure. The problem here is that they purposely take him out of context.

Senators should have denounced Dan Rather, another "private citizen", whose bias led him to overlook the fact that 60 Minutes' source for the documents was unreliable, and that CBS' contracted experts were refusing to vouch for the documents.

The senators are showing us just who the are when they ignore real scandals and choose to take up senate time with a manufactured scandal. Is it any wonder that Congress's approval ratings are in the cellar?

did you dingbats
hear hillary laugh. now that was hard to listen to....btw you pissants can make up facts all you want to. thats what democrats do. but it aint going to matter, there's nothing you or reid the punk can do to rush cus he can run rings around you slobs

Hillary is a Socialist
Always was, always will be. Takes a Village.

There are service personnel who are serving who are against the war. That's a fact. Soldiers and Marine's don't fight "for the President" and most of the wars we've fought in the last 50 years haven't been about protecting the Constitution either. We'll fight for the Flag/Country, but mostly we fight for the guy on our left and right. Politics plays very little in the reason a warrior goes to war.

Limpbah
I listen to the impotent drug addict every day, for the few minutes I can stand it. I've never listened to a segment of his show where "the facts" ever got in his way when he was shoveling out his daily dose of republican party krap for those ditto-heads like you people on Townhall who hoover up every last little dingleberry of his vast wisdom. Why would he start now?

folks
"Who is Rush referring to here? Arguably, it isn’t clear."

This is a talk show host. He knows EXACTLY what he is saying. What he was REALLY doing was trying to tie soldiers who speak out like those at VoteVets as "phonies". Well they were listening this time. GREAT!

http://www.votevets.org//index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=54

John Konop
What part of parody don't you understand?


pesky facts
soldiers is a plural form of soldier last time i checked.

on more than one news bradcast this evening they caught rush editing one and a half minutes from the actual statement and in fact armed forces radio edited out the phony soldiers comment when played over seas.

how does it feel my conservative freiends to be using the clinton defense.

what is the meaning of is.
and now what is the meaning of soldiers

how does it feel to be sleeping with bill clinton

Hillary
also didn't mention the words Democrat, or liberal at all, she called herself and the people she was talking to "progressives" which is double talk for "hey folks, vote for me, I"m
a real RED yankee doodle person (not p.c. to call her girl or lady..the lady part is easy, cuz she's NO lady, never was, never will be).
Progressive is a euphemism for socialist/communist. She's got her whole gang
of warroom thugs, working overtime to parse words on the air or in print that they can twist to their advantage. The truth has never been a
given with her or her minions. She's as evil as
Lady MacBeth, what irony, the PHONEY soldier
caught lying about his service is named MacBeth.
And like MacBeth, she, her thugs, the Democrat
Congress and this washout liar have the blood of our troops on their hands. It's a spot she nor they will never wash out and I think she's mad,
as in crazy, in her lust for power. The American people don't pay attention to these thugs because they listen to the MSM toadies,
and are too busy working to pay the taxes to support the non producers the democrat party has
pandered to and created over the past 40 plus years. And one more thing, Media Matters is
funded on Soros money. Methinks the Soros/Clinton cabal goes waaaay back.

ken i will
admit that your a liar

touj,khan
who really cares what you dirtbags think. you guys lie with ease cuz your democrats and thats what democrats do. if you had a brain you'd be dangerous. but seeing as you don't we don't take you seriously. your just mind numbingly dumb robots over here trying to pis off your betters. go rush

Toujie
The facts about Gurtha Murtha were stated today on even MSM. He accused 5 of our soldiers of murder, 4 of whom have been exhonerated and the 5th will soon be. When he was asked to appologise, he was heard to say " The trial isn't over yet". When they persisted, he was heard to say "Get off MY elevator". If these are not the facts, Why is one of the soldiers sueing him for slander? He IS hiding in his office in fear !!

Go Hillary!
Just reading the comments on TH makes me pray that she will be elected - interesting, because only 3 weeks ago I was an Obama fan.

Facts never mattered to Limbaugh before!
Malibu Ken makes my point: Limbaugh never worries about facts on his show. He's demanding a consideration that he declines to show people who disagree with him.


Yeah Toujie
It's almost as bad as a drunken senator who killed her .....NOT!!!!!!!!!

The headline
of this column is "Do the fact Matter When the subject is Rush Limbaugh?"

I don't know, they didn't matter when the subject was Anita Hill, John Kerry, Richard Clarke, John Murtha, or any other instance where facts were inconvenient.

Why should they matter now?

Hillary's VLWC
Hillary admits on tape to starting her vast left wing conspiracy groups Media Matters & Center for American Progress (note she blames the microphone going dead on a VRWC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHTydb5js-E

Hillary is the one with the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy and she uses Media Matters to help her silent opposing viewpoints like a good little Stalinist dictator she really is.

It's Hillary who's been conspiring to be President for at least 20 years if not longer.

Those who claims conspiracy the most are those who do the conspiring!

I remember
The very first time I heard Limbaugh on the radio, he mocked the speech of an African-
American caller who pronounced "ask" as "axe". That was my first impression.

The first time I saw him on TV he did a joke: he lifted a pitcher of water, asked the audience to guess what he was re-enacting, and loudly blew bubbles into it while moaning. The answer was "Mary Jo Kopechne." It apparently didn't matter to him that this joke was about a dead girl who's parents and siblings were probably watching.

His jokes about people dying of aids, people of different races, etc. etc. are boorish and simpleminded, which suggests that he understands his audience.



Do the Facts Matter ...
Public discourse has sufferd a lot in the past years with fanatics on both sides of the politcal divide attacking people in a real personnel way instead of debating the subject in a civil matter.

I think that Rush likes to generate anger. It helps his ratings. If it divides the country futher that fine with him.

His deminor while playing the Obama song indicated to me that there was mor going on then just a satire. I think he has intense dislike for senator Obama. The question is does this dislike come from Obama's politcal party,race or both?

John Konop & Malibu Ken
If you actually listened to his show, you wold know that the "Barak the Magic Negro" bit is a takeoff on something that was written to that effect in the LA Times! So if what Rush and his parody musician have said is racist, then so too must be the orignal article, right?

And Rush may have ruffled some feathers by comparing a US soldier to a suicide bomber, but I get the point. The point is that the Democrats went out, got a soldier who had been injured in Iraq, told him that Rush was saying that anti-war soldiers (how that works I will never know!) and set him up on a "mission" to denounce Rush---all without ever knowing what was actually said. It is the exact tactic that jihadist leaders use with suicide bombers; fill them with propoganda, stir them up, and send them to do the dirty work---while the "leaders" sit safely behind the scenes!

john konop
why shouldn't we consider you racist. that song was a parody. of course the times lies in the story so get a clue

eastlake joe
Well, Bill Clinton actually claimed that he was the first black candidate.

And Hillary, actually said.. I kid you not that she's "half black"

John Konop
Obama is racist himself. Isn't it him that says he's the first Black candidate? Isn't this a racial slur to his mother? He's only half black.

John Konop
Well, you can thank the LA Times for writing the article called, "Barack the Magic Negro".

It's a parody song about the article that the LA Times wrote questioning Barack's blackness.

So was that article racist??

Rush Limbaugh’s Barack the Magic Negro

Hey maliboob barbie
Get your facts straight, the guy couldn't possibly have gotten the purple heart. He was only in for 40- 45 days. that isn't enough to finish basic, let alone go to Iraq and get awarded the purple heart! He lied and was convicted in court for falsifying a VA claim.

you don't expect
that butthole ken to understand anything. he's is a democrat robot sent over here to pis off his betters

Sen. Harkin
This almost makes me wish I were back home so I could vote against Mr Kennedy's water boy again.

To those of you who think Rush is wrong on this, just read the transcript, the whole transcript.

Sheesh! How numb can you get?

The transcript
It would have been better if Rush had not edited out 1 minute and 35 seconds of the transcript he posted of his conversation about phony soldiers. It just makes things worse. Murtha is just as bad and all the heat would be directed at him by now. It will be when he is made to testify in court, at least I hope so.

marc: I know. You could be right...

and it scares me to death.



sorry anne
but the american people are a bunch of fools. it's quite possible they will install an avowed fascist in the white house(hillary). americans cannot be depended upon to do the right thing anymore. the bible does say in the end times, right will be wrong and wrong will be right.

sorry anne
but the american people are a bunch of fools. it's quite possible they will install an avowed fascist in the white house(hillary). americans cannot be depended upon to do the right thing anymore. the bible does say in the end times, right will be wrong and wrong will be right.

Anne 6:25pm
I hope your correct and we do have no where to go but UP.

However, some of the Democrats are lower than "rock bottom". They are living in basements and caves. Just look at the trolls who come to TH.

We must vote these idiots out of office!

Let's see here....

Four or five of the Haditha Marines exonerated.. and the last one any day now.. and DEMOCRAT Gurtha Murtha is loath to apologize for his "rush to judgment." Huh?

Dumbo Demos looking just slightly more slimy and foul than ususal after their Moveon.org Gen. Betray Us ad.

Yikes. We need to find something...ANYTHING... to accuse the Republicans of to get the focus off us.

So, let's to after... ummm.. oh wait, I know, Rush Limbaugh. He's always a good target. What is it that might have said in the past few days that we can take out of context???

And these fools, known as democrats, can't acknowledge that their Congress has an 89% DISapproval Rating...

I don't know about anyone else, but it scares the stuffing out of me to know that the people in charge of Congress, who make major life decisions are lying, perfidious, cheating, unscrupulous, reprobates.

I only pray that we've hit rock bottom and have no where to go but UP!







Reid declared the war lost
last spring. He was calling the troops in the field failures then.

He should resign. Rush prob. has a bigger constituency than Reid, who tends to gamblers and land jobbers who infest Nevada. Reid himself has been party to land sale scandals that never seem to make the front page of the NYTimes.

I'll go along with Rush and send an email to Reid and tell him he should resign. 4000 emails over the "Betray Us" ad forced the NYTimes to recant. Numbers frighten them all.

Democrats and liberals....
(oops...i know...redundant)hate Rush (Ann, Sean, Hugh etc) simply because they can't argue with them.
Rush & co. shine the light of truth on them. Point out their lies, distortions and hypocrisy.
Rush reports the news that the MSM won't report. And since such news is usually detrimental to the lefts agenda, they respond the only way they know how...by attacking him.
Libs claim Rush to be a liar, yet can't produce a single scrap of evidence to prove it. They claim what he says is "hate speech", again, they cannot produce any proof....because there isn't any.
All they can do is smear.

If ya can't beat 'em...call 'em names!

annoy a liberal....support yourself.

Rush
As usual the democrats have to resort to lying to try and cover for their unpatriotism and anti-Americanism. This time they're trying to make up a smear on Rush Limbaugh, a private citizen. The facts of course don't match up. If you listen to the replay its obvious that Rush wasn't talking about active duty soldiers fighting in Iraq when he says "phony soldiers", he's talking about democratic fake soldiers who make claims they can't back up. I hope between Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and the others they can force Harkin to apologize or quit the Senate. Lets make it as hard as possible on the lying Senator from Iowa.

Liberal Dems
On a scale of 1-10 the liberal Dems rate less than ZERO!

The First Amendmant
is for liberals only.
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