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Monday, February 09, 2009
Burt Prelutsky :: Townhall.com Columnist
Regarding Blacklists
by Burt Prelutsky
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Once upon a time there was a blacklist in Hollywood. Liberals still refer to it as McCarthyism, but they can’t even get that right. Joseph McCarthy was a U.S. senator and had nothing to do with Hollywood. It was the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) that conducted the star-studded hearings in Los Angeles. But I guess HUACism doesn’t have quite the same panache.

The congressmen on the Committee weren’t trolling for Russian spies, but only for publicity. They worked hand-in-hand with a sleazy publication called Red Channels, which purported to identify actors, writers and entertainers, who were Communists, subversives and fellow travelers. Red Channels was the brainchild of an opportunistic grocery chain owner named John G. Keenan, who found there was more fun and profit in extortion than in selling cans of corn. On more than one occasion, Red Channels got the names wrong. But even when they got the names right, sometimes the folks named had done nothing worse than voiced opposition to Nazi Germany prior to America’s entering World War II.

But every victim of the blacklist wasn’t just a premature anti-fascist. Most of them in Hollywood took their marching orders from a screenwriter named John Howard Lawson. Jack Lawson, a man born to run a gulag, was head of the Communist Party in this town. The Party members prided themselves on being pro-democracy. They showed it by contributing sizeable portions of their Paramount, Universal, Warners, MGM, Columbia and 20th Century-Fox salaries to Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Politburo.

When screenwriter Albert Maltz, like Lawson, one of the Hollywood Ten, dared to write an article for the New Masses, stating that a writer’s main responsibility was to his art and not to the Party, Lawson led an intervention of Maltz’s friends and colleagues. For several hours, they verbally bludgeoned him in his own living room. The result was that he caved in and wrote a second article for the magazine in which he essentially pleaded temporary insanity.

These days, there is another blacklist taking place, but they’re calling it a graylist because the victims are scriptwriters who made the stupid career decision of allowing themselves to become gray-haired or, in some distinguished cases, even bald.

Back in 1999, a class action suit was initiated by about 150 of us. Today, there are over 600 aging writers who are plaintiffs suing the various studios, networks and major talent agencies, for conspiring to blacklist WGA members on no other basis than age.

Some people might find it ironic that Hollywood’s liberals, who are still inflamed over a blacklist that took place 60 years ago, not only condone it in America, but practice it every day of their lives.

For those of us involved in the lawsuit, it’s been an interesting decade. Those of us who don’t play golf find it helps fill the time. The lawyers for the other side have done everything in their power to delay a court judgment. The masochists among us particularly enjoyed the interrogatories. Not only did they want us to recall the date of every meeting we ever had with any of the defendants, but what was said, by whom, if we got the assignments and, if so, when was the script shot, when did it air and how much were we paid. Some of us have a hard time recalling what we had for lunch.

It’s quite obvious that the defendants figure time is on their side, that all they have to do is wait us out and we’ll start dropping like flies, like very old flies. Fat chance! What they haven’t considered is that the lawsuit is providing some of us with the will to live that we might otherwise not have.

Not to sound too cynical, but when I saw Abe Polonsky leading a picket line composed of unrepentant Commies outside the Academy Awards in 1999, and saw Ed Harris, Amy Madigan, Nick Nolte, and a few other Tinseltown pinheads, sitting on their hands and sneering when 90 year old Elia Kazan came on stage to collect his honorary Oscar, it merely reminded me once again how hypocritical, rude and self-righteous the liberals in this town can be.

In spite of “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn,” “Boomerang!” “Gentleman’s Agreement,” “A Streetcar Named Desire,” “East of Eden” and “On the Waterfront,” Hollywood’s political elitists couldn’t get over the fact that 50 years earlier Kazan had, as they say, named names. What’s more, he made no secret of the fact that he was proud to have named the names of those he regarded as the enemies of his adopted country.

As we all know, the patron saint of Hollywood, a town devoted to back-stabbing and betrayal, is Lucrezia Borgia. And the truth is, if Elia Kazan had named fascists, Nazis or even conservatives, instead of Communists, they’d have erected a statue of him at the corner of Hollywood and Vine.

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Burt, it will end well
This one will cut your Christmas card list in half.

If you play golf, it will be tough to fit you in a star studded foursome.

As Spock said, live well and prosper. Or in this case, live long and pesss off the whole lot of them.

Just like the guy who invented the little gizmo on the back of all of the Sears ratchets they sold, who was stiffed by them for his invention. In the end he won.

The victory will be sweet.

Culture of Corruption & Hypocrisy
They raise taxes, but don't pay them.

They worry about Global Warming, but fly around in private jets.

They call themselves free thinkers, but hate anyone that disagrees with them.

They applaud communists like Castro, but they make sure they get that multi-million deal, which they don't share with the WORKERS.

They cry for the children in Darfur, but never put on the uniform and fight.

They care about the men and woman in the military, but not when they want to vote.

They care about the elderly, but only from a distance.

They care about children, but support the drug dealers that poison them.

Good luck, sir, with your case.

Kinda hard...
... to work up any sympathy for this particular 'class.' You guys had your day at the top of the heap -- and I bet you didn't waste a minute of it bleeding your hearts over cops & firemen who didn't get promoted because they were white men.

I flew JAL once & found it quite refreshing that none of the stewardesses (and they were all female) looked like grandmothers.

Do what other writers do: Keep putting it out there. Or is it your point that your union membership and past connections should guarantee you work? And if so, then how are you any different from the UAW, the teachers' unions, and, for that matter, Harry Reid's sons-in-law?

hollywood
Andrew1218 said a majority of what I was going to say. Well done!

I say we cut off Hollywood from the mainland and let them live with themselves. Most celebrities, (not all thank God), believe themselves above us "normal" folks and the ability to preach to the masses their ideals and beliefs. Unfortunately it's usually emotional drivel with hardly any proof or well intentioned message whatsoever. I think Team America parodied celebs very well with the Film Actors Guild, or F.A.G. That is how I see most celebs. Not much I like in Hollywood. Good article Burt.

Prelutsky claims that liberals
referred to the hollywood blacklisting as "McCarthyism", "but they can't even get that right".

He is correct that the blacklisting arose from the HUAC rather than McCarthy (who was involved in other anti-communist harassment). Nevertheless, the term "McCarthyism" was coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, and was soon applied to similar anti-communist pursuits such as the HUAC blacklisting. Today the term is used more generally to describe demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents. Sound familiar?

Hollywood Deconstructionist Civil Wars !

Some Deconstructionist Hollywood Elitists Deconstruct Some Other Hollywood Deconstructionists.

Hollywood and The Main Stream Media are Both now Deconstructing.

Awwwww , Pity,Pity,Pity !

The Writer Stops By
pb--It is difficult--make that impossible--to put it out there, as you suggest, when you can't get an agent because you are over 50. Being in Washington, perhaps you can be excused for not knowing how it works in Hollywood. But without an agent, you can't get anyone to read your scripts.

On the other hand, if you have ever read my articles before today, you would know that I have always argued against racial quotas. So I suspect I have gone to the defense of white cops and firemen who were aced out of their promotions far more often than you have. But you keep concentrating on stewardesses. Obviously it's what you do best.

Sincerely, Burt Prelutsky

A Different Hollywood.
Aw, Burt. Whatever happened to hanging around at Hef's, and getting to sit with Aaron at the Daisy?

Yah, dee oldt days verr betta.

pb does sort'a mention a referrence to the only reason to live, in the first place. All this other stuff is time-filler. Burt, when you get older, you'll realize that.

Even the memories of "the only reason to live...," are better.

Yes, "the memories" get better and better, the longer I live - if you know what I mean.

Burt,
Don't mean to step all over your sour grapes, but 600 clever old guys cannot enlist even one Hollywood agent? Sounds like a great idea for a sit-com!

I could not care less how Hollywood 'works' -- if that's the term of art for what it is they do there. Neither do I know how the janitorial service at Kettering High School in Detroit 'works.' But I suspect they use mops.

I don't ogle. I notice. People do that. Maybe you've written too many 'dumb & dumber' plots? That is what you do best, right?

Maybe it's time for all those over-50 grumps to grow up and find a real job?

Move to Kansas. It beats Oz.

Those who would throw stones at ageism..
...might be lucky enough to live until it happens to you. In fact, given the looming changes based on what the new president may want (less old people, fewer babies), you may not even get to experience it.
Aren't you lucky?

Years Before HUAC and McCarthy
You couldn't get work through some Hollywood unions if you weren't a CP member or sympathizer. Good luck if you were only a socialist.

Old age...pb
I was born in 1950, and I always knew I would be 50 years old in the year 2000, but it was always so far in the future I didn't worry about getting old. Now the year 2000 is 9 years gone, and it happened so fast.

Be careful taking young age for granted. You will be 59 before you even realize it.

rn
Nice try. I was born in 1942.

Lucrezia
... was by historical accounts a fine lady. No evidence exists that she killed her husband or anyone else. It's all gossip.

Hollyweird is so evil that its patron saint is the chief dibbuk himself.

pb, rn.
You do it right, and old age is the best age of all. I'm 1938, the best year to be born. Served, no wars. Worked, the money fell out of the trees. You didn't even have to pick it.

The key to Burt's angst is, he does not Golf. He probably goes to see Doctor, too. Everybody I know who died, was under a Dotor's care, at the time.

Go Golf, don't go see Doctor, remember all the girls, fondly, or fondlingly.

I give all thanks to the "Greatest Generation," Gaius Caesar, and his nephew, Octavian.

You
young whippersnappers......1935!

Hypocrites
"it merely reminded me once again how hypocritical, rude and self-righteous the liberals in this town can be."

AND YOUR SURPRISED? Is any among us surprised? Hollywood is a Fake Town full of Fake people. Get over it and write a book about just that. Write it under a different name and have fun with these people. Correct me if I'm worng but isn't Ben Stein a shade past 50 and he's doing GREAT... Good luck

scripts to write
With so many new channels to fill with entertainment and with so many VERY good cameras out there what you guys could do while waiting on your lawsuit is practice your craft get together with others to make movies and shows outside of the hollywood madness. Hollywood is no longer the only distribution channel.

Regarding Blacklists & Tinseltown, etc.
To corroborate these fools' leanings, get hold of THE VENONA SECRETS by Romerstein and Breindel.

Role Model
Mr. Prelutsky, keep at it. You are a role model for people like me working to overcome the current tide against our Constitutional Republic.

I ain't no spring chicken, but I refuse to give up and I hope you don't either! Got the next generation to consider.

Thanx for the article and reminder to keep plugging away.

Oh, contraire!
Would I ever discriminate against the aged? Absolutely not! I'd favor them, for their wisdom. Do I agree with discrimination-against-the aged laws? NO!, except with respect to taxpayer dollars. If it's private money, don't people have a right to spend it as they choose? If I don't want to pay an old person, or a young person, or a white person, or a gay person, don't I have that right? I will tell you unequivocably that I discriminate against men every time I visit my gyn. I've delivered a baby with a male doctor and another with a female doctor. I prefer the latter. Isn't that my right?

Jim
I hope your not going to suggest that there were actually commies in hollywood and I dont know, maybe the Gov't. That cant be, they were all innocent bystanders. They were framed I tell you.

Evy
I can not imagine a woman choosing a male vice female (preferably a matron) to help deliver a baby. But i don't understand lots of things women do. Heck, a lot of the time i don't even understand the things I do.

You are now free to have a happy good morning. Give the kids a hug from me. :-D

Burt

Seeing the carp that hollyweird puts out as entertainment these days get down on your knees and thank your lucky stars that you're in no way affiliated with such mindless drivel.

Jim.
Hey, I retired to AR, just to get away from all the commies, in Hollywood. Actually, they were just drunks and drug adicts, masqueerading -- mispelling intended. It was a bore.

Vicki, you tell 'em, girl.

Evy, forgive the "girl."

Douglas
Actually, it's time for you libs to stop misusing the term 'McCarthyism' and attempting to have it equate to "unsubstantiated accusations". The declassified documents from the Venona Project completely vindicated McCarthy and proved again that libs were wrong.

Here is the correct definition:

McCarthyism - a hollow term used by liberals in a pathetic attempt to slander any conservative individual and/or any conservative action; also used as an obnoxious chant to deflect attention from any liberal wrongdoing or illegal activity.

There is a lot of learning in this.
I haven't read the other posts and I hope I'm not repeating anything.

This article is filled with insight. It is about revealing true colors, and ignorant lemmings.

The thick headed, small brained denizens of Hollywood are so wrapped up in their self-conception and pomposity, that they are cluesless. Thus double standards are irrelevent because they they have no intrinsic ego feeling and actually command presence of mind to realize.

Instead of using their brains and recognizing the infiltration of deadly mind viruses, they fall in love with the virus and boo the doctor.

I heard a Rabbi once say, (I know who it is but I don't want his site "virused") An ignorant person arrives at an accident and witnesses a man cutting off the arm of another man. He takes a big club to kill the man, a doctor who was amputating the arm to save the man's life.

It is all ignorance. It is all a test by the Master of the Universe. Eli Kazan was given a test to either stop the bleeding at his own expense of cover his hide and let the victim die. The ignorant thugs were in love with the virus.

Corndog/Icedog

Corndog:
Actually - if Burt and his fellow plaintives WERE writing/directing/producing the majority of Hollywood's output, perhaps there would be a lot less crap and mindless drivel coming out of that cesspool.

Icedog:
Nice reply to our resident idiot "Head" doctor. I can only hope all Dr. Douglas does is teach - and that nobody is actually paying him to try and "get well". What a liberal moron (redundant, I know).

BURT
I'm worried about you now...After reading your paragraph about your interrogatories, I was reminded of Scooter Libby.

When you can't remember details of meetings and what was said it can land you in jail. Some might call it entrapment!

Be careful out there!

(And, should you and your co-horts decide to branch out from Hollyweird, let me know if you need a good director. I am available)

Completely?
>The declassified documents from the Venona Project completely vindicated McCarthy and proved again that libs were wrong.<

No it didn't. The documents showed that some of McCarthy's early claims hold up, but it hardly vindicates McCarthy for many of his accusations, including his most famous against General George Marshall.

I thought they changed the name...
...of the Communist Party in Hollyweird to the Screen Actors Guild, or maybe it was to MoveOn.org. Regardless, it's the most anti-American place I can think of right now.

The age discrimination thing is going to tough. In an industry dedicated to narcissism, where form trumps substance any day of the week, and dropping ten pounds is more important to your career than how you live your life, getting old is the bogeyman.

The previous commenter has a point. 600 old timers should have enough collected dirt to write a few bestsellers, then you can all retire in style.

burt
maybe its the old geezers attitudes and outlook nowadays. for instance i doubt you could write an episode for mash right now. at least one they would buy. it would be hard to sell a script where frank burns and col. flagg are the good guys. i mean you wrote one of the top ten mash episodes imo. what happened to that guy anyway?

That explains it!!
The blacklisting of the aging writers in Hollywood explains the continued decline of quality in movies and television.

They're not liberals they are power
hungry degenerates that ultimetaly will commit to communism, to have that power and maintain their life style = DEGENERATES.

Real liberals, have a limit to how far they will go with their liberal ideas. Real liberals will even own up to facts and truth, admit they are wrong. But these are not liberals. What these radicals have done is infiltrate the liberals just like they have infiltrated the once useful, democratic party. These degenerate power hungry perverts,are yet ready to show themselves because the people too easily swayed and fooled, still are not ready to accept them as they truly are....not yet..they have not been brainwashed and re-programmed yet, almost, but not yet.

The true liberal, with convictions and an open mind to truth, just like the true democratic party, is almost extinct.

Watching the history channel, seeing the super large crowds that gathered for hitler, stalin and castro, one cannot help but to see the obvious similarities with obacrap, the great hyped one, and the sheep of our time !

Not sure what the point...
.. of this column is supposed to be. Burt goes off on a trash talking about the Hollywood "Red Channels" folks -- and then tells us how many things they were right about. Maybe he does need to take up golf until his lawsuit settles instead of writing TH columns.


This explains alot.
Most adults I know do not go to the movies or watch television anymore. Most of what is on television is worthless and very few films are worth the time. The writing talent seemed to have gone downhill and now it is explained. Doesn't the free market work in Hollywood? The most talented should recieve the most work. Do they think we, their customers, will watch any garbage they put out there? Or are they incapable of distinguishing shoddy from excellent?

Pancho
I stand by my post. Libs have tried to portray McCarthy as a paranoid madman who just randomly accused innocent libs as communists or communist sympathizers. The Venona papers show the situation was actually worse than he suspected.

I highly recommend you read, "The Venona Secrets: Exposing Soviet Espionage and America’s Traitors" by Herbert Romerstein and Eric Breindel.

Why listen?
>Watching the history channel, seeing the super large crowds that gathered for hitler, stalin and castro, one cannot help but to see the obvious similarities with obacrap, the great hyped one, and the sheep of our time !<

Why would anyone listen to someone who calls the President obacrap?

If you were really proud to be an American, you wouldn't allow your partisan political views to devolve into such juvenile expressions. If you're really proud to be an American, you'd be using positive reinforcement to help this nation move forward, especially in a time of crisis.

Amen Vicki! CA? - really??
Posted: Feb 9, 2009 - 6:10 AM EST

How is Hollywood doing without you?
I used to go to movies once or twice a week. Now I seldom go more than once a year. Too expensive; too dumb!

I watch TCM a lot and noticed how much more depth there was to some of the old movies than there is to most of the newer ones. For one thing, they included all of ages of the population; not just the "breeding" population.

Whatever happened to the comedy writers like the writers of "Frazier?" All they seem to be able to come up with now is smut. Cheap laughs. Don't have to think much.

They're already getting their payback. Who watches network TV anymore; and how many "fannies do they put in the seats" at the movie theaters? Good writers are sorely needed!


Suggestion
>I watch TCM a lot and noticed how much more depth there was to some of the old movies than there is to most of the newer ones. For one thing, they included all of ages of the population; not just the "breeding" population.<

You should go see Clint Eastwood's "Gran Torino." There are movies out there which don't fit your stereotype, and some, like this one, are successful at the box office.

The average age of a consistent moviegoer is quite young, which is why there's such a plethora of movies targeting that audience.
When those movies on TMC were made, the average audience was much older and the entertainment opportunities more limited.

Dr. Douglas & recklessness
Considering that you once posted that your university, Oregon State, was too poor to hire TAs, when in fact they hire TAs, have special awards for them, and collectively bargain with them, you might want to ease up on the "recklessness" bit, OK? Thanks. Appreciate it.

Be creative!
With modern technology, there are a lot of ways of producing high quality, inexpensive entertainment for mass consumption. Conservatives in Hollywood should invest their time, money, and energy in developing an alternative to the current Hollywood power structure. Nowhere is it written that liberal Hollywood is forever and that they can't be undermined.

Forget the lawsuits...build your own conservative empire.

Myopic
>Libs have tried to portray McCarthy as a paranoid madman who just randomly accused innocent libs as communists or communist sympathizers.<

That's nonsense. If you broaden your view of history, you'll find that McCarthy, especially as his alcoholism worsened, was opposed by a much larger segment than what you qualify as "libs."

Many of McCarthy's accusations had nothing to do with the Venona papers or the Department of State, but morphed into an indictment of the Defense Department and policy concerning what level of support the country should provide for Chaing Kai Shek and the Chinese Nationals in their civil war with Mao and the communists.

This was done after the fact and while we were in Korea, as McCarthy was invested in expanding the war into China, hurling accusations against Marshall and the Army in generic terms for political purposes.

Had McCarthy stuck to his initial investigation of the State Department, history would have been much kinder to his legacy.

kb
hasn't rupert murdoch already done that?

The memory thing
Gee, I forgot what I was going to say! Oh yeah; that part about remembering what I had for lunch. I can relate!

no return of a bad Hollywood products
And if you noticed only bad product that you can’t return it is Hollywood product. You can’t return movie tickets, if you think that movie is the bad quality, you can’t return DVD, even it is not that difficult to set blockage for the copying, as all software products have.

One personality trait.....
...that is all important in the bizarre Hollywood culture is that one has to openly exhibit, either in their writing or acting, a strong element of maladapted aldolescent. To "the cool people" in film and stage, the more outrageous the plot, and the more socially deviant and libertine the character, the better. Grown-ups tend not to think that way.

Mature people are an enormous threat to those who demand fawning servants, who openly insult others, and who yearly (monthly?)buy cars that are impossibly expensive. And to love one's country and revere its flag is just too over-the-top-ridiculous to the pampered egos who believe themselves to be the center of the universe.

As well, indulgent and impulsive people don't like to be reminded that they're self-destructive, self-absorbed, or that they have the depth of a saucer. A walking-talking example of a healthy mature person is an enormous threat to their fragile egos.

Maturity means the end of illusion in life, and greater focus on what is truly good and enduring - as long as one isn't addicted to something, harboring toxic resentments, or if they aren't taking some psychotropic medication - or are candidates for same. To the Hollywood elites, this is just too threatening.

Why that word, who cares

Mary Hogan Location: OH
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Date: Feb 9, 2009 - 8:05 AM EST

I heard a Rabbi once say,
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What did that phrase add to the story?

McCarthy gave his last speech

I was in the gallery of the U. S. Senate, when Senator Joe McCarthy gave his last speech, in 1957. He died a few days later.

As much as I was in favor of what he was trying to do, I must admit a few times I thought he could have done it better. And for his last speech on the Senate floor, he was a drunken fool. What a shame.

I was working at the RAND Corp. at that time, and was in Washington, DC on a business trip, using a computerized war game to train Air Defense RADAR operators, whose job it was to guard the Nations Capital.

During a different trip to Washington, after a training class at a RADAR station near Wash DC went bad, the Two-Starred General got up to leave, saying as he left, “I’m going home and dig me a deep hole in the back yard.” Those days bomb shelters were all the rage.

This was long before computer games became subjects that are immoral, illegal, frightening and stupid. What a mess they are today, what an important duty they served in those days.


Bad Movies
I've generally found that if the critics rave about some movie, you are wasting your time to go see it.

I've been amused. "Brokeback Mt" is on sale at the local Wal-mart store. It's been there at least three weeks - and not one copy has been sold. And this is a "great" movie?

Instead of them saying what is a good and bad movie, it should be left to the consumers to decide. And if it is a bad movie, they shouldn't be making more like it.

Just a little off the subject

Have you ever been inconvenienced by a Member of the US Communist party?

In 1985 we sailed from Rotterdam to Montreal on the Polish ship Stefan Batory. Something about the name of this ship caught my eye, and I just knew there was something historically important that I should remember.

In 1991, with the help of the late Congressman Patrick J. Hillings, I researched the story. May 23, 1949 Time Magazine said, ”Gerhart Eisler, the head of the US Communist party in the 1940’s, was under indictment, and was free on a $23,500 bond.

One day he bought a 25¢ ticket to visit on board a Polish ship, named the “Batory.” He hid on the ship, until it arrived in International waters, then identified himself, and paid his fare.

The US Government ordered the ship to return, the Captain refused. The US then decreed that this ship could never return to a US port.” So that’s why we are in Montreal rather than New York City, I’m sure.

pancho
good job, some conservatives want to try and blame mccarthy's legacy on liberals but the whole country turned on him.

bottom line is that ...
Communism has existed and still does exist in this country. There are NO virtues to it. Many well intentioned people fall for it without realizing what the cost is. Socialism is just a precursor to Communism and we are already far enough down the road that we cannot go back without throwing many good people to the curb and causing great civil unrest.

By the same token though, if we continue Socializing our government to the point that individual liberty is totally lost, there will be great civil unrest.

We need to stand against the insidious take over that Liberals are enabling through things like the nearly $1Trillion Stimulus Bill. We all need to suck it up and live within our means and stop expecting government to save us. They can't and they won't.




Go get em', Burt.
I was recently turned down for a position at a veteran's outpatient treatment facility. The rejection letter came very quickly, I must add.

Being a clinical and forensic psychologist apparently knocked me out of the competition for this federal hire since the position was for "social worker". As noted on my resume, I taught social work to psychology and social work graduate students for many years while working at my discipline, and I've practiced social work when needed.

As well, and as my rejectors presumably read in said resume, I'm an honorably discharge combat veteran having served in Vietnam with the airborne infantry. I'm also physically disabled to a degree due to three wounds received while in combat. My wounds don't inhibit me in my work.

Lastly, I have successfully treated, in private practice (at a huge discount), veterans from Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. My professional history, to include publications, is wide, varied, and unblemished.

But I'm 60 years old - and a white guy.

I hope Burt and his pals are mega-successful in their efforts. This insanity must stop.

christianlib
Was McCarthy wrong in what he said? My reading is that he said there were commies in the Gov't and military. Was he wrong? I know he ended up alcoholic but to his original point was he wrong?

Problem is, Pancho...
..McCarthy was right.

His alcoholism was no doubt brought on by his being hammered from every print, entertainment, and leftist-enabling political arena. Many potential supporters feared the same types of assaults so they kept McCarthy at arm's length. I'm surprised he held up as long as he did.

From my experiences in Vietnam, the only good communist is a dead one.

Stepford wives-preprogrammed..
The far left is like a pack of lemmings. They follow one another in lock step and "out" any who are independent in the slightest. Whenever I hear a hollywood type speak about any subject despite their own craft I am amazed at their insularity and absolute lack of ANY connection to the common man (the people who actually have made it possible for them to be rewarded for the dubious value of the work they actually do) or the middle class worker. Instead of humility at the fact they live in this land of more opportunity than anywhere on earth they are haughty and self absorbed to a degree reserved for aristocrats and authoritarians of the worst sort. In other words they are the biggest hypocrites in the world. They looked at Reagan and Bush and even Nixon as the epitime of arrogance and grandiosity while they themselves were steeped in it. It's farcical to even consider their worldview as being anything but the wild rantings and whims of little children who are fearful of their own lollipops being snatched from their greedy little hands. Other than that I have the highest respect for them!

well now
In short, the blacklisting was wrong. There is no good argument for denying someone work due to their political beliefs. It would be hypocritical for any conservative to accept blacklisting.

Next, McCarthy bares a great deal of responsibility as he was one of the leaders of the time who capitalized on the anti-communist sentiments and helped to whip up emotions to keep it going.

This is not to say that McCarthy is solely responsible or that there was no legitimate concern regarding the communist threat. But in this case, all we have is the time honored practice of using fear to get and maintain power. The problem is that both liberals and conservatives do it so much that it is difficult to tell what’s real anymore.

As for Kazan, he deserved many Oscars for his talent and contributions. I believe he was sincere in his anti-communist beliefs and did the right thing when he named names. Ultimately, he too was a victim of the blacklisting.

As for Burt, good luck. Here’s your opportunity to prove that it’s bias not lack of talent that keeps you from working. I doubt it though. Hollywood is so avaricious that I believe they would take scripts written by a 5 year old or a 100 year old if they thought to would sell.

Finally it’s good to note that two liberal planks, unions and victim mentality, seem to be perfectly fine when voiced by a conservative.

The Entertainment Industry.
What passes for entertainment today leaves a lot to be desired, in my opinion.I had not watched the Grammy Awards for years because of the drivel that passes for music today.

Not surprising,it has only gotten worse,if last night is any indication. Maybe thirty minutes of the entire thing was worth watching.The rest ...trash.

I,for one,cannot watch a movie or television show starring a far left-winger,who has said and done un-American things.It is impossible for me to separate the stars from their behavior.

.McCarthy was right.
Yes he was, in some instances, which I readily agreed with.

However, just saying "McCarthy was right" doesn't tell the full story.

As for your experience in Vietnam[the only good communist is a dead one], most of the Viet Cong and Viet Minh weren't very concerned with communist ideology and neither was Ho Chi Minh.

Foreign intervention in their country was more the driving factor, be it Chinese, French or American.

Another thing to keep in mind is that being a member of the Communist Party in this country has never been illegal, as that would be unconstitutional. So certain laws were made that targeted communists, some worthy, some outrageous.
McCarthy is a perfect example of someone who transcended from the worthy to the outrageous. Ironically, though, the most egregious example of outrageous actions against communists happened in the Wilson administration when 10,000 suspected subversives were arrested in the Palmer Raids.

Mr. Prelutsky
You have my sympathies, as I have enough years to be an "old timer" in my industry (technology ages even faster than pop culture), I can sympathize. Still I am not a fan of discrimination class actions, they go against my principles, be the plaintiffs old or black or disabled (yet another category into which I fall). Much as it may hurt, the companies have the right to employ who they wish. In a more competitive entertainment industry it would end up hurting them, as a competitor would snatch up the writers, but thanks to SAG and the WGA and a bunch of other alphabet soup unions in the entertainment industry, you are stuck in a unionized, noncompetitive market.

Then again, since you wrote kindly of the WGA strike some time ago, you kind of brought it on yourself. And, not to rub salt in the wounds, but how much help is the Guild giving you in your suit?

Sorry, don't mean to sound unpleasant, I really do enjoy your columns, and your comments on Kazan, and on the actual communists in Hollywood are spot on. But I still think the suit is misguided.

If you truly want to help the elder writers, break the strangle hold the studios have by breaking the lock SAG, WGA, etc. (sorry, can't recall all the acronyms involve din entertainment) on entertainment jobs.

There is no reason entertainment needs to be unionized, and if you fought against that you would have my support. But simply suing to be allowed back in the exclusive club, that doesn't sit right with me.

(That sounded much less polite than I had hoped. I am sorry about that. Mr. Prelutsky is one of my favorite columnists here, and I hate for one of my few comments to sound so unpleasant. But I really think this suit is a bad idea.)

Douglas
I just can't use the "Dr." term for you as it's an insult to real Drs. no matter their discipline.
Re: your post #54--what you and your ilk can't ever seem to remember is that Communists and their fellow travelers-such as you--WERE rooted out by both houses.
I know it doesn't matter to you as these were just folks voicing their opinions-by your standards.
In the real world they were treasonous (and still are)--at a time we were fighting wars against Communists-some were even shooting wars-or "police actions".
Yes the country was pc even then -unable to declare war on the most dangerous tyrannies of all time.

christian lib

"pancho
good job, some conservatives want to try and blame mccarthy's legacy on liberals but the whole country turned on him."

Good morning.

Actually that isn't true. I have talked to more than a few that lived that era. Many supported McCarthy's cause but not his methods. Also remember Nixon was right in there with him and it catapulted his career.

The Venona docs did reveal a LOT though:
Like the ABSOLUTE METAPHYSICAL CERTAINTY of the GUILT of the Rosenbergs, particularly Julius. He hoped they would never execute a woman so he let her take the fall with him in the vain belief that it would save his worthless lying traitorous @$$!! BURN!!!!


-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

Attack of the Pod People!!!
Clivesdad,

It's not a Stepford Syndrome but they've all podded out. Remember how in both versions the pod people could and would point out anyone who had not been taken over? The Left likes to call conservative the Pod People but it's been THEM all along.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Pancho
Do you seriously believe what you wrote in regard to McCarthy and the commies?

The next time you write supportive commentary for communists, keep in mind that under their barbaric system, you wouldn't be allowed to write anything other than what you just wrote. Your tepid support for McCarthy, however, would have gotten you killed.

And in regard to your comments about Uncle Ho and Vietnam to include their people's army, you could not possibly be more wrong.

Lolo
Good morning to ya!

Nothing like a column that mentions McCarthy to bring out the goofy pinheaded trolls.

Sophie, your stench gives ya away no matter what "name" you give yourself on TH.

LMAO at the stupidity and hypocrisy of liberals


Down with Hollywood
I have taken my own stand. I do not watch their award ceremonies, which seem to be growing , they just love to pat each other on the back. There are very few actors, directors etc.I have any respect for and I do not go to their movies I may rent one for 2.00 a night. They are mostly self righteous ,uneducated, liberal, characterless and immoral, socialists who want to see this country on its knees, with them and their leader,Dopey Obama, at the helm. They love to look back(60 Years) but are not even smart enough to see what is going on right now. The so called Communist witch hunts were real. They hid for a while and now are out there as many of our leaders and actors.Read the book "School of Darkness" (1950)in it the author talks of the life that is being forced down our throats as we speak..A quote.."America will never be taken over from the outside, it will take years and years but it will crumble from within as everything good is desecrated, our family life, religions, morality. " We are living it today. Religious people made fun of, sex and porn everywhere(and than we wonder why the kids are messed up ??), a socialist self centered president, his first rule, kill babies worldwide , let the rabid dogs out of Gitmo and talk nicely to terrorists.Everyone good trying to their jobs is hurt, like the behind the scenes writers in this article, while the immoral snakes coil together in comfort waiting for the next group to pounce on.

A substantive difference
>The next time you write supportive commentary for communists, keep in mind that under their barbaric system, you wouldn't be allowed to write anything other than what you just wrote<

Uh, what supportive commentary?

You do realize there's a difference between discussing historical events and providing supportive rhetoric?

As for me being wrong about Vietnam, you provide nothing to support your claim. How is that effective?

Hollywood vs Reality
Burt, if I remember correctly wasn’t DreamWorks suppose to be a place to nurture and support new talent? Whatever happened with that? They are obviously having some growing pains right now and have been for years. But, when you base your company on one idea and turn around and do something like base your ideas on over inflated egos and money, the little guy always takes the hit, not the studio. Based on their company’s failings and watching the decline in good, substantial films and not the liberal philosophy and anti-theosophy campaigns they so clearly enjoy, the chickens are now coming home to roost.
The once bally-ho mega blockbuster is a thing of the past where pounding rock music and special effects hid a lame plot and mediocre acting abilities. These movies are junk entertainment to fill a void in a teenage boy’s life. The louder the better and the worse the acting becomes. The Hollywood agenda is clear, promote liberal ideology and mock and ridicule conservative values. And every single year the movie going audience continually decides to stay home. So, I guess the public in their own way are blacklisting Hollywood films.
As for the graylisting, the facts are clear most are old timers from a generation who valued Country, patriotism, pride in American, like the actors John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Alan Ladd, William Holden and Bob Hope were generally conservatives, as are and were these screenwriters. So unless they are willing to conform to the liberal ideology I cannot foresee their future in a liberal Hollywood. But, calling them out on it and examining their own hypocrisy for the world to see is a great start. Knowing the denseness of the Hollywood brains the message will get lost over the pounding rock music and the mediocre acting; it’s just part of the dumbing down of the American youth. But good luck in seeking a screenwriting assignment. I’d go see something that you wrote.

No
No, McCarthy was wrong. And that was very bad for the country because there was a legitimate threat. McCarthy not only failed to catch any of the real bad guys, his antics made the whole movement look bad. In the end, some harmless people were persecuted, some dupes were uncovered and the core of the Soviet spy apparatus remained intact. No, Burt was right about the HUAC and Red Channels. McCarthy was no different.

Not really
>And every single year the movie going audience continually decides to stay home. So, I guess the public in their own way are blacklisting Hollywood films.<

It's true there were slightly less tickets sold in 2008 than 2007, due probably to recession, but I would challenge that audiences continually decide to stay home.


>What piracy? Movie biz sees record box office in 2008

Domestic film box offices broke multiple records this year, grossing an estimated $9.78 billion. Thanks to both major and not-so-major releases this year, films from studios like Warner Bros, Paramount, and Sony all contributed to the highest-grossing year in film history.<

http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/01/what-piracy-movie -biz-sees-record-box-office-in-2008.ars

Most folks would consider an industry's highest-grossing year a success.

Curtal Friar
"Sophie, your stench gives ya away no matter what "name" you give yourself on TH.

LMAO at the stupidity and hypocrisy of liberals"


Good Morning!

Boy isn't that the truth! It seems liberals only dislike McCarthyism when it used against them, but do not mind using those same tactics as well, and it isn't just going on in Hollywood.

The Pro from Dover
Were I you, I'd try to find out who the VA did hire. If they hired a person who was not ex-military and/or wounded, then you have grounds to sue hell out of them. Age might be a third possibility to sue.

There have been lots of cases in recent years where the US civil service did not adhere to their own rules and bypassed vets to hire a straight-legged civilian.

You might contact the VA (or Vet) rep at the VFW, AMVETS or Fleet Reserve Association. The Army and USAF have counterparts to the FRA, but I can't recall their titles.

Give it hell. And thank you for your service!

SophieUnwanted
"Milk is a positive american movie
...telling the tale of a groundbreaker politician, one who broke free of the bigoted constraints of society...

what could be more american than that?"


Spoken like someone who knows absolutely nothing about what occurred there. You gleefully slurp up everything in Hollywood as fact. What a rube!

BTW...if blacklisting isn't happening in Hollywood then explain the treatment of Clint Eastwood and his movie Gran Torino. Also what you purposely left out is Clint writes, direct, and funds his own work. He also is considered untouchable, like Robert Duvall, due to his box office clout.

irony
It seems that conservatives at TH think unions are always bad and lawsuits are frivolous and lawyers are evil and those who use unions and lawsuits and lawyers to get their way are whining victims except, of course, when Burt is a member of the union and needs a lawsuit to get his way.

By the way, I fully support the use of this lawsuit, assuming the age discrimination is real. I would guess that Burt's writing just doesn't fit into the current Hollywood product. That is, Burt wrote at a time when sitcoms were more formulaic (scene introduction, build up to punchline, punchline, laugh track, fade out and start the next scene). Now sitcoms often have many more scenes per episode having been freed up from the studio audience and laugh track formula (think "Arrested Development"). Perhaps Burt should take the advice of others here and either adapt to the new style of television and film or carve out your own niche outside of the system. In other words, make yourself relevant again. Clearly other older people have been able to do so in Hollywood (think Clint Eastwood).

SophieUnwanted
More hypocrisy on your part just with your new handle alone.

SophieUnwanted
"As for Nixon, the shifty paranoia he learned during that time didn't serve him well in the end now did it?"

You really cannot critically think, even if your life depended on it.

It matters not whether it served him well. That is a separate issue. Simple fact is it catapulted his career.

BTW...your new president is using the same paranoid fear tactics to pass his Spendulus Pork Bill.

ca
"It seems that conservatives at TH think unions are always bad and lawsuits are frivolous and lawyers are evil and those who use unions and lawsuits and lawyers to get their way are whining victims except, of course, when Burt is a member of the union and needs a lawsuit to get his way."


More lack of critical thinking skills. It matters not whether he supports unions or not. Simple fact is unions were required in order to work long before Burt ever took up a career in Hollywood. One does not need to be pro-union to be forced to be part of a union.

dr hate is still here...

A day in the life of dr hate...


Wake up at O'Dark O'clock, pour shot of breakfast, drink same.

Memo to self, order more Scotch.

Logon to ConSite.

Find person to hate.

Oh-di-do, Oh-di-do, Oh-di-do...

Let's see, Adams?, Prelutsky?, Malkin?, Coulter?, Shapiro? McCullough? YES!.

Hard choice, I hate all uv-em. I hit sevrum uv dem.

Drink another shot of breakfast.

Read article, misquote it, call it stupid, call them haters, promote marxism, call them liars, send them personal HATE email,

( when I get a response from them, I'll call WebSiteMaster, and demand they be fired for hate mail.

Any poster that calls me on this! I have them banned too. My right to hate is more improtant! )

Drink another shot of breakfast, while waiting for those stupid moron poster cons to try to refute my brylliante comments.

After all, I has a degree as a Perfesser Emirate of Psycho, in the Psycho Dept.
uv my Universe in some god forsaken place.

Oho, a response. Call them stupid moron poster cons for even trying to refute my brylliante communts.

'nother shot of breakfast. (How can hul LMAO? I just HATE!)

Call next poster a stupid Nazi. Heh-heh.

Call next poster moron for daring to disagree.


'nother shot of breakfast.

How styupid these cretins? islam is peece. gays dont git sick. cristens r haters. HIC. wars wil end if we disarm. HIC. guns kil peeple.

WOW, time for lunch !


Eat chocolate drops I found behind the counter where that rat was gnawing.


Pour double shot of lunch.

Memo to self. Order more Kaopectate flavored "Dark Eyes".


Time to dress. Go to closet. Pull out Liesure suit.




WOW, a double handful of chocolate drops. Yummy.

OH, Dang, that rat has been gnawing in here too!


Ohh. Tired. Gonna be long nite. Take two 'Black-Beauties'.

Pour more lunch...

The Writer Stops By
I haven't had time to read all the posts, but I did want to respond to a couple.

Andrew--I'm glad you like my columns, even if you don't approve of the lawsuit. All I can say is that the folks who determine whether or not I got to write for TV were not spending their own money. They were merely employees who felt less comfortable dealing with people the age of their parents than the kids they played Nintendo games with on the weekend. If it had been their own dough, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. But it behooved the adults to keep an eye on these kids and make certain they weren't breaking the law.

As for May McCarthy Rot in Hell or whatever absurd nom de Townhall she uses, the question is not whether I became irrelevant as a writer. Obviously I did not or you and all these other people would not be reading my pieces twice-a-week here at Townhall. What I became is 50 years old. And whether you like it or not, it is illegal to discriminate against people for that singularly stupid reason.

As for the folks who have brought up Clint Eastwood as proof that ageism does not exist in Hollywood, sorry, but Mr. Eastwood is not a writer. Basically, he is a movie star/director. And even then, he is the exception to the rule. If he were a writer, his career would have been over quite a while ago.

Regards, Burt Prelutsky

Best of luck with law suite, Burt
One would think fighting age discrimination could be a cause everyone could get behind. After all, unlike some other causes, age does not discriminate (please forgive the play on words). We are ALL going to be old someday (God willing) and none of us will like it if our accumulated knowledge, wisdom and talent is treated as irrelevant simply because we have wrinkles.

I think those who fail to support the cause of the aged do so because they are in denial. Coming face-to-face with our own eventual deterioration is pretty hard to take. If a person acts indifferent, he/she might be able to fool themselves into believing that getting old will never happen to them. Why take up a cause that simply doesn’t apply to you (and never will).

It’s hard to believe people could be so delusional, but I guess it’s no worse than convincing yourself that being nice to Islamofascists will keep us safe.

Come to think of it, there’s a lot of denial going on in this country today.

The "Red Scare"
Regardless of which side you are on, the USSR did have active agents who used American socialists as spys.

The USSR did have an agenda: defeat America which would defeat capitalism (socialism's bitter enemy).

McCarthy's lists were taken from FBI and US State Dpeartment lists of known communist agents. Read "Blacklisted by History" for a detailed and objective analysis.

SophieUnwanted
"His story is an american success story and a triumph against bigotry."


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Okay if you say so....too bad I work with, dine with, party with, and know more than a few who were not only there but got him elected. They say otherwise.

While I don't think he deserved to be murdered he is hardly a martyr and really epitomizes 'you reap what you sow'.

But I would hate to burst your ideological bubble and have you crash to earth, so you keep thinking what you like.

Most of the current problems that plague Sf and politics in general today are attributed to Milk.

But you go ahead and sty on cloud nine.

SophieUnwanted

"actually it's the economists
who are stirring up fear lolo...

but why should we listen to them?

what do economists know about the economy?"


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

That has got to be one your dumbest posts yet.

Congratulations.

SophieUnwanted

"Hypocrisy in my tag Lolo?
Nooo

Notice I say "may"...

IF there is a hell, may he rot there.

If there is not a hell, well at least his memory will be reviled in history books for all time..."



GAWD but you are STUPID!!!

You don't like religion when it imposes boundaries on morality or your lack there of, but you do like if it imposes your serious sick sense of what you deem justice.

Hey, I helped McCarthy!!!


In addition to learning about IBM machines at Fort Monmouth, NJ, my Major told me to report to a certain building at a certain time. He very gruffly told me to tell him what it was all about, when I returned.

Several high-ranking officers said that we were to keep an eye out for spies, were given a secret PO Box to mail a weekly report, and were forbidden to tell anyone that this meeting even took place. My Major had said I must tell him about the meeting, so they gave me a telephone number to memorize, for him to call.

The Major had the “screaming mimis” when I wouldn’t tell what happened, so I told him the number. He dialed and firmly demanded they tell him what was going on. His face turned to stone, he came to attention in his chair, and said, “Yes sir! Yes sir!” and hung up. He had no more questions, that was the end of his involvement.

The Rosenbergs had worked at Ft. Monmouth, and had stolen some sensitive information while working there in the 1940s. The Government thought there might still be some Russian spies at Fort Monmouth, in addition to the Rosenbergs.

Sounds like an exciting story, but all my weekly reports mailed to the secret FBI PO Box number in a phony town name, said, “Nothing to Report.”

Later Senator Joe McCarthy focused his Anti-Communist hearings on past spy rings at Ft. Monmouth, NJ. The Rosenbergs were both executed as spys on June 19, 1953.

Glad to be of some but not much, help.



A Liberal's Dilemma
The problem with liberals ,and it is genetic, is they only think with the left side of their brain.

They see nothing negative about anything the left does. They are either dumb,dishonest or blind. Since they can type,I assume they are just dumb and dishonest.

They can't see the bias against conservatists in the press and entertainment. They deny it exists.

Had McCarthy not sought out and named many communists,what we are experiencing presently with B.Hussein and the left-wing congress,would have happened in the sixties.

God bless Sen.McCarthy and the HUAC !!!

SophieUnwanted

"Paranoia launched Tricky Dick's
career and also ended it.

Ah the tragic irony!"


HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You are quite the riot today!

It wasn't paranoia that ended his career, but his acting upon his paranoia among other things.

SophieUnwanted
"Burt's just whining because he's a talentless hack."


More stupidity since he has had multiple successes. Et tu?

Reality is if this were happening to someone who is liberal you would be singing a different tune. As to your post of 1:59pm I call BS!

Liberals love victim hood so long as they are the victims and they can turn a profit politically as well as monetarily from it.

SophieUnwanted

"Still dodging Lolo?
why don't you answer my outstanding question? Too embarrassed to admit the hypocrisy of the right?



I suppose you think you know more about the economy than the economists?

why don't you run off to D.C. with your bright ideas then?

You might be the one and only conservative who actually HAS an idea on fixing the economy..."


I did answer stupid little girl and as to the economy and economists...I am one. I have been consulted and given input, but it matters little since it isn't what you lefties want to hear. You must have missed the document signed by over 300 economists and sent directly to Obama as well as a full page ad.

How many degrees do you hold in economics?

I hold two advanced degrees. Et tu?

Thanks for playing idiot.

GAWD BUT YOU ARE STUPID!

Sorry but I gotta say it
In regards to the new movie about a San Fran politician (played by Sean Penn) who was murdered many years ago, I have this to say:

Don't cry over spilled milk.


SophieUnwanted

"yes he acted on his paranoia
and that brought him down.

duh. whadya think I meant?

you really are grasping today sweetie."


You just get dumber by the minute. Congratulations on perfecting the art of going backwards. How should I know what you meant? I can only go off your stupidity that you post. Why would I want to read your mind, if you have one? That would be the equivalent of locking myself up in a sanitarium for the insane.

Have a nice day stupid.

Rowly
Well dear even chimpanzees can type.


Have a Great Day!

may mccarthy rot
exactly how does max cleland's wounds which resulted from his tossing around a hand grenade when drunk qualify as honorable.

Cleland qualifies as stupid for his wounds not heroic. While his wounds are a tragedy for old max, he was just another dim who rode his own stupidity and the pity pof others to elective office.

When you want to praise a hero, make sure you have a genuine hero.

Yes, descrimination really sucks
I'm sorry that you have experienced first hand the effects of discrimination over something you have no control over. Does the act of your law suit lend support for the idea of affirmative action? Or are you and your blood sucking leaches (i.e. attorneys) just going for unspecified punitive damages?

Either way your law suit sounds awfully liberal to me.

Cactus head job
you are a real piece of work. I presume you were there when the grenade went off being so certain of his drunken stupor.

Using your logic any pathetic fool who dies or died in Iraq of non combat injuries is that, a stupid pathetic fool.

Re: Commie HCUA Vice Chair
Samuel Dickstein, Democratic Representative from New York, and a New York State Supreme Court Justice, was key in establishing the House Select Committee on Un-American Activities which would later become the House Committee on Un-American Activities, and he was also the HCUA Vice Chairman. Unknown to his fellow committee members, Rep. Dickstein was on the payroll of the Soviet Union's spy agency in 1937-40, a fact that came to light only in the 1990s when the KGB archives were made public after the fall of the Soviet Union.

dr HATE


Gee, dr hate. you call every columnist on this site a foul name, but cannot abide anyone returning the compliment?

Thin skinned are we?

When the columnist replies, vis a vis email which you originated, you try to get them fired.

We know you could not be fired even if you murdered a grad student in full view of your class of three.

Well! They just did not see the lesson.




Please call your favorite grad student and have him pack something for you.

You will be relieved and so will your grad student.

I am curious although, only mildly, how did you ever become so hateful?



Did your mommy's various and sundry boyfriends spank you repeatedly?

Did your friendly grad students promise they would not do that thing in your mouth, and lie about it?


Please feel free to spread the truth instead of your VERY ignorant lies.

It is obvious to all that you are insane...

And to add insult to injuy, your IQ is comparable to a ten year old.

I could send you a list of comic books that would help you, but you have resisted every effort of others for you to improve.

Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate,

Yup I is dr hate.

~~~

Enough for now, but I shall return.

You are a vile fithy thing, that cats would cover up.

I hope this cheers you up.


But,as you no longer read my comments [ HAHAHAHAHA ], I guess it does not matter.

Hey, just wait until I get warmed up...



Re: Hysterical Historians
"Regarding hypocrisy, you dodged my question the other day regarding the hypocrisy of the right's reaction to Sarah Palin's knocked up daughter compared to what the right's reaction would be if it were Obama with the unwed, knocked up teenager...."

No, we merely have a President whose supposed birth records are a State Secret of the Hawaiian government. Afterall, his paternal grandmother claims to have witnessed his Keynian birth. So who are you going to believe? Some Website closely associated to Obama, or his eyewitness grandmother?

Speaking of the Swiftees - when is John Kerry-Heinz going to release his complete, unredacted, BUPERS file?

May McCarthy yada, yada, yada...
I noticed how you told another poster who mentioned "obamanites" or something to that effect to tone down the "crazy" posts in order that he or she be taken seriously.

I suggest you apply that same rule to your own handle. Then again, you are from California where double standards are alive and well, and personal instability is celebrated.

Regarding your high school reasoning where you say that conservatives complain about victimhood too often, I suggest you have a professional test you for your capacity for reality, and the ability to discriminate crucial differences.

What an idiot.

Burt's lawsuit...
...has mega-merit in more ways than one.

First of all, there are supposed to be laws against age discrimination.

Then again, laws that are endorsed and passed by liberals are routinely ignored by themselves and their servient, slobbering and parasitic minions. If that little inconvient observation comes to light, they simply lable their feel-good law "unenforceable". Millions of illegal aliens validate that construct as do the last few obama candidates for cabinet posts (see, non-payment of taxes).

Secondly, Burt and colleagues are holding accountable the Hollyweird glitteratti who demand us commoners consider ALL members of society as potentially viable employees. A great rule, that. But they corrupt said rule by demanding the unqualified, insane, and/or the incompetent be hired first, in front of prime and qualified employees.

Let's see how they react to taking their own medicine. The Barbara Streisand and other empty-headed blow-up dolls in California commonly rage when discrimination rears its ugly head. Then again, Babs likes to film in Canada or in other countries to avoid hiring union people.

Give em' hell, Burt. Hold them to the laws and rules they demand of others.

btw, folks, not to be nitpicky, but it's spelled, "lawsuit" - one word.

Writing
I don't watch tv or go to the movies much anymore because the quality of the scripts is so bad. I think Burt has explained rather well why.

While waiting for the lawsuits to complete I still think you guys should start your own film company :)


dr hate

I am here,
do
you love me?

You are such a sweet guy.


Oops. I did not intend for that foul thing
in your mouth.


Sorry, dkscker.


hey dr hate...

dr hate,

I just lifted my left cheek to give you a kiss.

It sounded like Brrrrp. Ah the aromatic odor. I think you would think it is the sound of love.

dr hate

Conservative or Liberal, aging happens..
to everyone. When those in their 60's retire, it will be a great loss to business in general. We will miss their work ethic, their conscientiousness, their "customer service"-oriented treatment of clients, and their inherent code of decency.

Sophie of a thousand names, (Communist)
You are a fine one to call anyone dumb!

You are a fool who has been told that lies are justified by your cause.
And you are so naive you don't ask why lies are needed to support your cause?
You have been brainwashed to the point where even a trained dog is more capable of individual thought than you are.

You don't see your masters as a threat to American Freedom?
You can't even bark without your master's orders to do so!
THIS IS A CLEAR THREAT TO FREEDOM!
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87757

my god
well i think you just found a way to shut cactus up lol. i thought the same thing when saxby chambliss was smearing max in their race for the senate.

cactus
i guess those guys in iraq that were electrocuted trying to take a shower were drunk or stupid too.

Sophie of a thousand names, (Communist)
You know better that to post a bunch of conjecture as argument.
Without links to your sources, conjecture is all you are posting.

Links look like;
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/27/palin-launches-p olitical-action-committee/

You should be happy to know Sarah Palin will be in your face for the next 4 years and possibly 8 more after that!
We now have an American Margaret Thatcher!

And here is another link explaining how your Leftist brain has deteriorated from apathy;
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/07/14/neo-socialis m-a-decomposition-of-the-liberal-mind/

Max Cleland
Saxby Chambliss did not 'smear' Max Cleland. The truth is not smear ! Cleland ran for senator of Ga. He ran as a conservative Democrat.

It was almost impossible for a Democrat to get elected if he was liberal,so he played the game and got elected. He pretended to be conservative. Many conservatives voted for him.

He goes to Washington and does a complete turn-around. Cozying up to Teddy Kennedy and voting with him on liberal bills which did not go over well with conservative Georgians. That was a giant no-no.

No one denies Max Cleland's patriotism and we thank him for his service,but as a politician,the Emperor has no clothes.


taliban
hey you all see that republican congressman who says his party is taking lessons from the taliban lol. unbelievable.

roy
What are you trying to say in your 6:23 post?

If you are attempting to smear Republicans;

The ACLU is an honored part of the Democrat Party.
Therefore anyone associated with the Democrat Party is partly to blame for the actions of the ACLU.
This list of searches will show you how vile the ACLU is and there is ample filth to smear every Democrat!
I am sure I probably missed looking for something.
If you can think of anything else that is evil and/or treasonous, there's a good chance the Democrats & ACLU advocate it too!

ACLU v Boy Scouts
ACLU v Christians
ACLU v Second Amendment
ACLU + al-Qaeda
ACLU + Communists
ACLU + NAMBLA
ACLU + Illegal Aliens
ACLU + CAIR
ACLU + Illegal Drugs
ACLU + Abortion
ACLU + Pederasts
ACLU + Child Porn
ACLU + Hamas
ACLU + Democrats

There is NOTHING ON EARTH more vile or corrupt than a Democrat!
They are trained to lie and use innuendo to insinuate falsehood.
They claim any lie or tactic is justified by their cause.
They lack the intellect to understand how they have been indoctrinated and programmed to do evil.
They are incapable of understanding that IF their cause was really just then truth would be on their side and there would be no need for lies & innuendo.

hey burt
were you in favor of american pow's that were captured during the gulf war being able to sue the iraqi gov't for damages? they tried and the bush administration shot them down and wouldn't let them sue. then they turn around and start paying the sunni awakening, the same ones who were killing gi's the day before,a stipend every month not to shoot at us anymore. i don't know but it sounds like the bush administration had everything bass ackwards huh?

Sophie of a thousand names, (Communist)
What's with you Leftist LIARS? (roy too!)
Are you all too stupid to learn how to post a link?
If someone hires an attorney who happens to be a member of the ACLU, it does not set ACLU policy.
Filing a brief is not representing a PERSON, it is representing a position!

NOW LEARN TO POST LINKS!
They look like THIS;
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=21597

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/06/02/aclu-advice- for-muslims-under-surveillance/

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/01/12/aclu-helping -hamas/

http://www.stoptheaclu.org/index.php?option=com_content&tas k=view&id=189&Itemid=2

http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/12/05/surrender-mo nkey-friday-aclu-loves-the-drugs-in-schools/

Do you begin to get the idea?
Post links to validate your wild conjecture!

my opine
see reply #119 and i now rest my case.

My God you people are dumb!
Nice name! It's interesting because that's what people in the other 49 states think of the people in California.

While you are right in saying that the ACLU has defended conservatives in the past, one need only look at the numbers.

For every conservative issue the ACLU has defended, they have fought hundreds of cases against conservative and religious issues.

dummy... Smell this...
My God you people are dumb!
My God you people are dumb!
My God you people are dumb!
My God you people are dumb!
My God you people are dumb!
My God you people are dumb!
Location: CA


Yup. I is dumb. How prescient of you.

I think the doctor has gone to check into restraining orders against you...
Reply # 112
Date: Feb 9, 2009 - 4:56 PM EST you a creepy dude

dr hate needs to go into rehab. He comes here and hates everyone,

That is OK. Then if anyone challenges him, he wets his pants and goes in the back door, a familiar entry for him, and tries to get the person fired.

TownHall? Hmmph! They bend over and grab their ankles.

OK, if I am banned for this, they will lose all my advertising points. So be it.
dr hate,

I just lifted my left cheek to give you a kiss.

It sounded like Brrrrp. Ah the aromatic odor. I think you would think it is the sound of love.

dr hate, dr hate, dr hate, dr hate, dr hate, dr hate,dr hate, dr hate, dr hate,dr hate, dr hate, dr hate,dr hate, dr hate, dr hate,dr hate, dr hate, dr hate,




roy
Case? ? ? ?
Your post #119 is pure conjecture and very obfuscated conjecture at the best.
That is why I asked you to post a link to your source.
I am sure you know what you intend to express but you are doing a very poor job of it!
Please post a link to your source to help me decipher your post.

You do know what links look like?
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/11/16/democrats-ou t-to-fulfill-aclu-agenda/

But you can guess, can’t you.

Husker2 Location: MA
Reply # 126
Date: Feb 9, 2009 - 7:34 PM EST

For every conservative issue the ACLU has defended, they have fought hundreds of cases against conservative and religious issues.

==========

About 15 years ago I was prohibited from playing tennis at a Country Club, because of a Letter to the Editor, published by the Palm Springs newspaper.

When the ACLU found out who that group was, they refused to take my case.

I was not asking because I wanted to play tennis there, I just wanted to make the point that the religious, or ethnic group had too much power. Sometimes they insist they are a religion, other times that they are an ethnic group.


my opine
tell you what chuckles just google republican + taliban and then take your pick of about 15 stories about the disgraceful congressman pete sessions (R) of texas.

Sophie of a thousand names, (Communist)
Sophie YOU ARE A LIAR!
The ACLU is a Communist organization dedicated to the overthrow of Democracy and they do everything they can to harm America.
The only people who's rights they protect are America's enemies!

The ACLU has made a career of persecuting Christians, Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts.

Here you will see the ACLU smoking dope while they are assisting Illegals to cross our border.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43867

The ACLU are defenders of America's enemies!
They want America to be ruled by FOREIGN laws we have no say in the making!
The ACLU should be banned from America and forced to live under the laws they are trying to force upon us!
http://www.acluvsamerica.com/news/story.aspx?cid=155

Sophie, I do understand your constant confusion;
A quote from Saul Alinsky;
"an Organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have fixed truth -- truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing....
To the extent that he is free of the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations our society presents."

Many human constructs
contain the seeds of their own destruction. My Opine you are right beyond words re: the American Criminal Liberties Union. Have you EVER seen them stand up for a CHRISTIAN or JEWISH cause? NEVER. They go to the mat for Moslems though.

Ever see them fight for 2nd American Rights? Guess what. THEIR version of the Bill of Rights (which they claim is their only client) has the RKBA deleted.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Just something going around the net.

This is one of those things everyone forwards to friends.
If you haven't seen it, it is worth your time.
It is a 10 minute video on various forms of Governments.

http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/

Miz Sophronia , The Reincarnated
When one goes into the dirty career of politics,Miz Sophronia ,he needs to have a thick skin.

The fact that Cleland lost limbs in Viet Nam is no reason for him to be coddled when running for office. He was treated royally in his initial run,as I said. He ruined it himself,so he can't complain.

All is fair in love and politics and there is an old Georgia saying ,"if you can't hang with the big DAWGS,stay under the porch."

By the way, who wrote the commendations for his medals.....John Kerry?

Burt
stopped by and just had to congrats you on another fine and informative piece. 5 stars as they say. Don't worry too much about those Hollywierd types you are worth more than the whole lot of 'em!! Keep banging away and don't desert us. think the world of ya big guy! Joe

Lawsuit
In respect to your lawsuit I do wish you the best of luck. In reguards to what so many people these days call "STARS" or "CELEBRITIES", I am sorry but they don't exhist. These so called Stars or Celebrities are nothing more than people getting extremely well paid to do a job, and thats it. They don't float in the air or walk through walls. What I am really appalled at is that there are so many people in this country and around the world that Idolize these actors and actresses, and act like these people are bigger than life, and they are not. Most of the shows now a days are done by special effects using computers making for a great show but the actor or actress has actually very little to do with it, all they do is read their lines and act their parts then the computer special effects fills in the rest making it a great show. These actors and actresses in my opinion are paid way too much and really don't deserve the extreme pay they recieve like millions of dollars for a single movie part thats extreme and totally undeserving. As long as their are fools to idolize a person just for doing their job, their pay will remain extremely high.

Leftist propaganda victory
Count on Dr. D to pollute this site with standard issue leftist drivel: "Today the term (McCarthyism) is used more generally to describe demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations..."

In fact McCarthy's accusations have been substantiated many times over, through the Venona papers, Soviet archives and recently opened FBI files.

The best analysis of all this info is in the recent book mentioned earlier "Blacklisted by History: the Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and his Fight Against America's Enemies" by M. Stanton Evans whose research is impeccable.

The author offered to pay a substantial sum to anyone who can provide actual evidence that Senator McCarthy ruined a single person's life or career with false accusations of communism. Mr. Evans' wallet is still intact.

McCarthy investigated communist spies and/or party members working for the Soviet Union and committing treason against the United States. It was amazing how many of them there were and how high up they penetrated the US government. They helped to withdraw American support for Chang Kai-shek at a critical point and therefore engineered Mao's ascension.

McCarthyism should be taught as the best example of "killing the messenger" in all of recorded history. This is the Left's most successful meme planted in American culture and historical (false) memory so deeply that even many conservatives believe it. It is completely resistant to the mountain of facts that back up McCarthy.

Leftist propagandists succeeded in making real reds appear white (innocent) while irredeemably blackening the name of the one man calling them on it.

The Dr. D's of the world keep spreading their pig slop but need to have it returned to source until they choke on their own lies.

BTW, Dems critical of McCarthy's lionize criminally negligent drunk driver and killer Ted Kennedy.
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