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Friday, September 12, 2008
Burt Prelutsky :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why I'm Voting for John McCain
by Burt Prelutsky
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Frankly, I’m amazed that the Democratic party is anything more than a cult. How in the world do they garner more votes than the Libertarians or the Greens? They are beholden to trial lawyers, teachers unions and the ecological crazies. So, why is it that upwards of 55 million Americans are ready, even anxious, to vote for Barack Obama in November? It’s a scary thought. But not half as scary as the notion of “Hail to the Chief” becoming Senator Obama’s theme song.

Democrats insist that we shouldn’t drill off the Pacific coast or in Alaska or in the Dakotas because they claim we wouldn’t get a drop of oil for at least 10 years. And that’s true, but only if the same left-wing idiots who are more concerned with moose than with people won’t allow the oil companies to build new refineries. Also, even if it were true that we wouldn’t be any better off for an entire decade, what do you suppose they’ll be saying in 2018, when gas is going for 25 bucks-a-gallon?

Speaking of the energy crunch, there’s a guy down in Georgia who claims that he can turn virtually anything, including grass clippings and table scraps, into methane gas. He got the idea while standing downwind from the cows at his food production company. He and the U.S. military are building seven pilot plants they claim will give us a million barrels of oil a day. If everything pans out as they think it will, they claim we’ll be free of dependence on foreign oil within five years. Best of all, it suggests that all those gas bags in the House and Senate will finally be of benefit to America. It’s my guess that hooked up properly, Nancy Pelosi, alone, could supply all the energy needs of Dayton, Ohio. Do you realize that Speaker Pelosi, who is only a few heartbeats from the Oval Office, owes all of her power and prestige to the fact that about a hundred thousand people in San Francisco, a city in which cross-dressers constitute a voting bloc, voted her into the House and about 125 House Democrats then elected her to the speakership. You need more votes than that to be elected the mayor of Fresno.

I probably shouldn’t belittle those so-called public servants in Washington, D.C. After all, how would you like to have to wake up each day, knowing you are going to have to listen to the likes of Barbara Boxer, Robert Byrd, John Kerry, Barney Frank and John Murtha, flapping their gums, and all the while pretending you’re paying close attention?

But enough about politics. Let’s discuss religion. That brings us to Barack Hussein Obama, the presumptive messiah of the Democratic party. It’s a funny thing about Democrats. Although they tend to be secular in nature, they are strict fundamentalists when it comes to their candidates. They refuse to acknowledge that their standard bearers have any shortcomings. Republicans, on the other hand, when discussing their own candidates, are eager to point out their every conceivable fault. Republicans are simply more honest and far more realistic than liberals. They acknowledge they are not voting for God, merely the better candidate.

For many of us in the GOP, the problem with John McCain is that he strikes us as wrong-headed when it comes to illegal aliens and campaign reform. On the other hand, he is in favor of appointing conservative judges; he is for attacking radical Islam on their home turf; he is for doing anything and everything to prevent a recurrence of 9/11; he is for lower taxes and for drilling our way out of dependence on the sorry likes of Russia, Venezuela, Iran and Saudi Arabia; he is for siding with Israel, America’s single ally in the Mideast, and against the degenerates who support Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, who honor suicide bombers, and who danced in the streets when their friends and relatives brought down the Twin Towers.

But, to be fair, there is much to be said about Senator Obama. Where shall we begin? Perhaps with the fact that he’s married to a bitter, angry, anti-American racist. And let us not forget his minister, who damned this country and white people for a thousand Sundays while Senator Obama sat in a pew and somehow heard nothing offensive being spewed from the pulpit. Not to be overlooked is his friend, Tony Rezko, a Chicago fixer who went to jail on corruption charges, but not before making certain that Obama got a very favorable home loan. Other notables on Obama’s list of friends and associates are Bill Ayers, who was an American bomb thrower, and Father Pfleger, a priest who reminds some of us of the late, unlamented, anti-Semite, Father Coughlin.

The fact remains that Barack Obama is 47 years old and he doesn’t have a single friend, associate or religious mentor, who isn’t the sort of creep that most of us would cross the street to avoid.

Obama, we’re told, will bring us all together, but during four years in the U.S. Senate, he has never voted for a bi-partisan piece of legislation. His memoirs are jam-packed with illegal drug use, racist rants and sophomoric Marxism. He claims to be post-racial, whatever that means, but the church he attended for 20 years gave its highest honor to Louis Farrakhan just last December. I suppose that also escaped Obama’s notice.

Frankly, I never thought I’d feel sorry for Hillary Rodham Clinton, but I do. Thanks to the mainstream media banding behind her opponent, she lost primary after primary before talk radio hosts and Internet bloggers got the unvarnished, unpleasant truth out about Obama. By the time Americans found out what kind of man her opponent is and she started winning elections, it was too late to catch up. By that time, too many of the so-called Super Delegates had, like those horses in “Cinderella,” turned back into the rodents they really were.

It is my own belief that Barack Obama is the single worst presidential candidate in my lifetime. I bet some of you think I’ve already forgotten about Jimmy Carter. I only wish. To my way of thinking, Carter was undeniably the worst president. Among other things, he saddled America with 21% inflation and 12% unemployment. He also turned his back on the Shah of Iran, thus opening the door to the Ayatollah Khomeini and thirty years of world-wide Islamic terrorism. Then, not one to rest on his laurels, Carter became the worst ex-president in American history, capping it off by accepting the Nobel Peace Prize even after the committee announced they intended to use his selection as a way to kick President George Bush in the fanny. I’m sure that when Jimmy Carter dies, the Nobel Prize will be highlighted in his obituary. What I’m sure the press won’t mention is that it’s an honor he rightfully shares with North Vietnam’s Le Duc Tho, Kofi Annan and Yasir Arafat.

Finally, I was wondering if someone could please explain why it is racist to vote against someone who is half-black, but not racist to vote for someone for that very same reason? I mean, it’s one thing for 90% of black Americans to troop out and vote for Obama in November. After all, they’d likely vote for David Duke so long as the Democrats saw fit to nominate him. But it’s quite another thing when they voted 90% for Obama when he ran against the equally liberal Sen. Clinton for no other reason than that he’s 50% blacker than she is.

In conclusion, let me just say that some of you were no doubt pulling for Mitt Romney, some for Rudy Giuliani, others for Mike Huckabee or Fred Thompson or even, God forbid, for Ron Paul. I, myself, backed a couple of those guys once I realized that Newt Gingrich wasn’t just playing hard to get. However, once I understood that John McCain was the one person in a position to make certain that the only way Barack Obama would get to the Oval Office was as a member of a tourist group, I swore my allegiance to the distinguished senator from Arizona, the man who served more time, more honorably, in the Hanoi Hilton than Barack Obama has spent in the U.S. Senate.

Some months ago, I suggested a bumpersticker that read: Better an Imperfect Conservative than a Perfect Socialist. I hope it’s a message that resonates with all of you, come November 4th.

Oh, and by the way, have I mentioned that I’m nuts about Sarah Palin?

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W. Burt Prelutsky is an accomplished, well-rounded writer and author of "The Secret of Their Success: Interviews with Legends and Luminaries."
 
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Voting John McCain.
I'm voting for John McCain because of his sidekick.

Me too, Burt
McCain was not my first pick, but as we move closer to the election day, I've come to the sober realization that it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that we do everything in our power to stop Obama. He is a walking disaster, period.

I am voting FOR McCain ... oh, and yes, his "sidekick" is a MAJOR reason for my support.

Let's get 'er done, folks!

McCain/Palin '08

Recovered Lib
That's "git'er done!!!

I agree.
I have to say my first reaction to John McCain's pick was "Oh no, he picked a woman". However, she is no ordinary woman. My first choice for president was Fred Thompson, but I would have voted for Mickey Mouse to keep Obama from getting his hands on our country.

Sarah Palin has made it a downright pleasure to vote for McCain.

Good article, Burt, but
I think that Democrats treat their candidates as religious figures not "although they [the Democrats] tend to be secular in nature", but because their secular nature leaves them unfulfilled. It would be kind of sad, if it weren't so scary.

absolutely
I totally agree with Burt. Nothing left to say.

Another Bumper Sticker
I saw this one recently and I believe it says it all:

Obama for Rock Star
McCain for President


Burt
"...why it is racist to vote against someone who is half-black, but not racist to vote for that very same reason."

You know the answer, Burt. The black community, as a whole, don't admit to being racist. In their minds, racism is a "white sin".

A young man who is half black and half white told me that he doesn't accept another member of his mixed-up family "because he's been in the sun too long". In other words, he's too dark-skinned to be accepted by lighter-skinned family members.

Blacks certainly CAN BE racist. Barack Obama will get plenty of votes from the black community...solely because they see him as one of them.

we elect a leader, he appoints doers
Burt says: Better an Imperfect Conservative than a Perfect Socialist.
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Everyone talks about electing a leader. The next thing you hear is, can the candidate plow a field, drive a tank, conduct an appendix operation, can he/she blow the tuba in the US Marine Band, can he/she build a railroad track, can he/she do this or that.

Remember, we are electing a leader, not a doer. Watch the Drum Major, does he blow the right notes on the tuba, does he clash the cymbals at the right moment. No he does neither, he is the leader. Watch the coach of a football team, how many points does he score, how many tackles does he make. None. Watch the farmer as he plows the ground, and plants the seeds. He leads the horses, he does not pull the plow.

We must elect a leader who can appoint a staff of people who will select the best person to blow the tuba, to clash the cymbals, score the points, and plow the field.

Most people, including me, loves to remember JFK, who was considered a great President. But no one remembers what he did. All I remember is that the worst thing he did was appoint Bobby to anything, and the best thing he did was make love to Marilyn Monroe, my favorite Hollywood lady.

The most important job the president does, is nominate, promote, and appoint 30,000 people who will actually run the government. And if the president is a Rep, those people tend to be more conservative than the people appointed by a Demo, especially judges.

His term will last only 35,000 hours. Can you imagine any person, either alive or imaginary, who knows all about everything? So all you single issue ding-dongs, get lost.

So as far as I am concerned, vote for the man in the primaries, vote for the party in the General election, not just for the man.

Yes sometimes that doesn’t work as we want it to work, but even at its worst, the government operated by conservatives is better than one run by lefties.


Rowly



"* Rowly
Location: GA

Reply # 3
Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 12:51 AM EST Subject: Recovered Lib
That's "git'er done!!! *"

~~~~

Thank you kind sir for pointing out the speech flaw of our friend that hails from CA.

My folks came from NC/SC about 1800. The slash is because the border was not clearly defined at the time.

My Great-grandmother was the first white person to be born in Tipton County, Indiana. We still retain many Southern traditions. My Dad loved grits. I did not care for them that much, but they are palatable. He also enjoyed pancakes with two fried eggs on top, and covered them with syrup.

~~~~

Also, Burt's column is one of his best, and that is saying something!

I am in complete agreement with everything he says here. And, yes I also laughed most of the way through it. I love the way Burt uses his razor to slice off the B.S. that the 'Left' cover everything with, to reveal their true slime.

I am in agreement with millions of Americans, in that the choice of Sarah Palin has finally pulled us out of the doldrums. Instead of pulling the lever for the lesser of two evils, I can now proudly pull the lever for Sarah Palin, and coincidentally, her running mate.

I firmly agree with Burt, in that, this is the only choice a sentient being can make.



The Geriatric, not yet senile, Rodent

jim

"*
jim
Location: CA

Reply # 9
Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 1:53 AM EST Subject: we elect a leader, he appoints doers
Burt says: Better an Imperfect Conservative than a Perfect Socialist.
==========
Everyone talks about electing a leader. The next thing you hear is, can the candidate plow a field, drive a tank, conduct an appendix operation, can he/she blow the tuba in the US Marine Band, can he/she build a railroad track, can he/she do this or that... *"


~~~~~~~~~

Hi, Jim. I am also a Jim.

You make excellent points in your post, there, Sir. I agree 100% with most of your thoughts, but I disagree in the fact that there are people who can do the 'nuts and bolts' thing, AND be a great president.

I know many people who I believe would make good presidents. I believe I would make a good president. I believe you would make a good president.

These people do not want the job. If, kind Sir, you can untie the Gordian Knot and explain why this is so, you could do me a great service.

~~~

You are, of course, exactly correct in that the leader must actually LEAD!

Many of our presidents did not do this in a manner worthy of the power handed to them.

McClain is a leader. I may not like where he leads us, but he IS a leader.

Mr. Obama is NOT a leader. He is a follower. Anyone who changes their beliefs, based upon polls, and on a daily basis, is not a leader. That person is a follower of the polls.


Finally, I have been in leadership roles before, and I do not care for that. I much prefer roles where my own merits are all that count. When you are the leader, you are responsible for every underling AND their deeds.

Dang. I may have answered my own 'Gordian Knot' question.

Kind regards to you sir.



The Geriatric, not yet senile, Rodent



The voice of Obama
Do you notice that Obama speaks elitist english on some occasions, and with some kind of a slang when speaking to the great unwashed.

Excellent article
Burt. It's best to pick a half flawed leader in McCain than a deeply flawed community organizer, with a racist wife, assorted nefarious associates, and a non doer. Who can find one thing he has actually done of any significance other than promote infanticide?

Palin/McCain
I think stopping Obama is essential, but defeating the Godless Marxists that masquarade as a legitimite political party is better. That means Sarah Palin, a choice that McCain was forced to make to retrieve the base he has viewed too often as bus pavement.

Sarah rocks and will restore sanity perhaps to the RINO (win by becoming your enemy)mentality of the GOP, as well as restoring credibility to the family and traditional values, without which there is no cause worth winning.

Before Sarah was picked...
Astute article Bert!
I had pretty much decided to go with McCain though I did see it as voting for the imperfect conservative. My reasons were because he said he's pick traditional constitutional judges and that was the deciding factor.
I had hoped for a stalemate between getting the house and senate back and a marxist president.
John McCain is sort of growing on me, His choice of VP helped quite a bit. He's getting better about the illegals though still has a long way to go and his campaign reform has just gotta go.
I also fear for this countries security and I want peace but peace is only going to be achieved by superior firepower not a dining room chat.
I could care less what color skin a person has but that person has to be right for the job and OVomit certianly isn't the right one for POTUS.

Anyone reading Burt
after reading Larry Elder the other day, who then votes for Obama has serious problems. No wonder a large part of the democratic voter constituency has great trouble even making a living. They are apparently brain dead, incapable of even making the most obvious decisions for their own good. I worked in Washington DC for ten years and was there when mayor Barry was found guilty of drug use. He was acquitted of crimes which he was video taped committing because the jury thought he was entrapped. DC is a city of many very capable black people, but the voters still re-elect Barry to the council. They remind me of lemmings jumping off a cliff.

BURT FOR PRESIDENT . . .!!!!

Jana Martin
Oklahoma City, OK

Vito - One Trick Pony
What is it with you and "da Jews!"?

You remind one too much of the 90% of blacks who will vote Obama because of skin pigment.

Leave your antisemitism at the door.

Burt
"...But enough about politics. Let’s discuss religion. That brings us to Barack Hussein Obama, the presumptive messiah of the Democratic party. It’s a funny thing about Democrats. Although they tend to be secular in nature, they are strict fundamentalists when it comes to their candidates. They refuse to acknowledge that their standard bearers have any shortcomings. "

I am on to you Burt. McCain who, as Rush likes to say, served in Vietnam has morphed from straight talk to simple lies, "the sex ed ad or the bridge to no where ad or the lip stick on a pig rant" LOL. You conservatives will bow before what ever piece of flesh the party leaders through at you. As the Economist (a conservative magazine) says Sarah Palin is the most unqualified VP candidate in the nations history. Yet, there you little guys go falling in line tails wagging. She is a hail mary pass trying to keep the public from realising they will be voting for four years more of Republican mismanagement

"...Republicans are simply more honest and far more realistic than liberals. They acknowledge they are not voting for God, merely the better candidate. "

LMAO a confused, elderly senator who has served and voted with the republican party for the worse periods of its misrule is hardly the best candidate. personally I would rather vote for a man of integrity, youth and vision.

Eggs Pancakes??
As usual Burt writes a good one. However, I will have to say I am NOT voting FOR McLame; I am voting for Palin in 2012.

Rat Man

Eggs on top of pancakes with syrup????

I was born in VA, grew up in GA, I currently live in SC and have lived all over the country. I have NEVER heard of anyone plopping eggs on pancakes with syrup.

Good Points
Mr. Prelutsky,

You hit on all of the pertinent issues at hand. Mabye you could write an article concerning those in Washington who would put a flaming socialist before the American public. Afterall, we need to know who to replace.

Vic
Gotta agree. The h*ll with McShamnesty. IF I vote for Team McCranky, it'll be for Palin/Jindal 2012 and Jindal/? after that!

I heard that McVanity offered OBummer the slumlord, a cabinet position! Hopefully, it won't be in HUD where he can pillage the treasury for Rezko.

The Anti Liberal Zone
http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/

Examining the similarities between Rangel and Mugabe. Long lost twins? Separated at birth?

Hal Doofus Rides Again! (7:56am)
"personally I would rather vote for a man of integrity, youth and vision."

John F. Kennedy is not running this year Doofus. Neither is Bill Clinton (although I doubt Slick Wille had any integrity or vision short of Monica's under-garments).

No, what the Dumbocraps have running is a man who associated with a member of the "Weathermen Terrorist Group", a man whose pastor says "God D*mn the US", and a man who is a member of the most politically corrupt political machine (i.e., the Chicago Dumbocrap Party) in the US.

You can do better than that Doofus.

LAUGH MY A*S OFF!

Diane
Here is a rogue's gallery of the Progressive Caucus.

That's libspeak for flaming commies and socialist pukes.

http://noliberalspin.blogtownhall.com/2006/10/25/progressiv e_caucus_revealed!.thtml

They, like Mugabe-Rangel, keep getting reelected because they bring home the pork to their welfarites and other freeloaders.

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue
I am greatly enjoying the meltdown of Obama's campaign - almost as much as I enjoy your continued rants in support of the least qualified candidate in modern political history.

I hear the Scranton PD put out a BOLO for your common sense and intellectual honesty.

The eve of November 4th is going to be a sad and quiet one in the Donahue household.

Better re-stock the bar, Hal.

LMAO © 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)


Give me a break, Vito
There isn't a Prelutsky article that goes by without your mandatory reference, explicit or implied, to Burt's Jewishness.

You are clearly an antisemitic bigot and have grown quite tiresome in your obvious dislike of Jews and Israel.

Clear enough for you?

Vic
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 7:59 AM EST Eggs Pancakes??
As usual Burt writes a good one. However, I will have to say I am NOT voting FOR McLame; I am voting for Palin in 2012.

Rat Man

Eggs on top of pancakes with syrup????"

Gosh how do I break this to you? Well best say it straight out I like that breakfast have since my military days

Hal Drunkahue BACKS
the wrong horse AGAIN!

Saint Goreacle 2000

Hanoi John Fonda Kerry 2004

Barracks Husseini Obongoloid 2008.

Trouble IS Hal, is that your own LIBS are now doubting that the community organizer and overall empty suit can pull it off.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/6c2f69ce-8031-11dd-99a9-000077b07 658.html

LET THE DRUNKEN MELTDOWN CONTINUE!

hal to bad he is not running
Hal said "I would rather vote for a man of integrity, youth and vision. "

To bad that man is not running. Now Hal and those like him believe in
1) Immediate pull out of Iraq regardless of conditions on the ground merit it
2)A weakening of the military (sen Obama wants to cut weapon system upgrades that will save lives and missle defense)
3)Socialized medicine, taking away health care I have EARNED and putting the same government beuracracy that can't run anything else in charge of health
4) more government programs and hand outs
5) raising taxes on the Rich.

Those are Hal and most of the Democrat positions and they won't deny them.

Since hal is smart enough to know those themes don't resonate he will try to attack the VP choice or the age of the Republican nominee. he will totally ignore all the associations of his guy, the crooked deals, the Pork, the marxist leanings etc and say but your guy did something bad too.

And the point of Mr Prelutsky's article is yes Sen McCain and Palin are not perfect we admit that but they are far better on the issues that matter then anyone else running!

HEY BURT!!
Don't you even think about giving that windbag Pelotsky a key to Dayton Oh. Its bad enough that we have that psycho nut Kookcinich!

Hal Drunkahue
"Well best say it straight out I like that breakfast have since my military days."

Is that how they served breakfast in the Red Army?

Wait, my bust. It was OBummer's uncle who served in the Red Army when he liberated Auschwitz.

GunnyG©
Hal continues to rant about an old, senile man running for president.

Isn't this a classic example of "pot & kettle"?


LMAO © 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)

Primus: Burt is absolutely right...

As are YOU! :-)

Back to business as usual with donahooey... HA HA

Noticed donahooey was AWOL for a few days... probably on a huge bender after McCain named a truly QUALIFIED running mate, ESPECIALLY since Marxist Obama didn't choose Hitlary!

Man, what a hit that must have been. :-)

Did you see the other night on H&C (soon to be renamed "The Slap-down Colmes Show!") when Karl Rove said that the gaffes (Marxist) Obama was making are, without question, typical of someone who's coming unhinged.... and then said to Colmes, "Alan, please, you're making a fool of yourself now...."

Come On GunnyG! (8:27am)
It is unfair to hit Hal Doofus with ancient history (" It was OBummer's uncle who served in the Red Army when he liberated Auschwitz.") this early in the morning.

You know that he hasn't had his fourth cup of Irish coffe yet.

Who needs polls?
As the Gunny has so well pointed out - Hal Donahue always backs the wrong horse.

So we needn't waste time on polls - just figure whomever Hal supports is going to be the loser!

Primus54
"I hear the Scranton PD put out a BOLO for your common sense and intellectual honesty."

It wasn't the Scranton PD amigo, it was the Pennsylvania State Mental Hospital!

But aren't those "Hail Mary" passes

plays that usually WIN THE GAME???


Primus54
When I found out that Drunky had backed Hanoi John "I've got rice shrapnel in my butt" Fonda Kerry, that was enough for me.

LMAO © 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)

Anne
That's funny.

Whenever I watch Colmes - I just imagine him with long hair, "granny" glasses, tied-dyed t-shirt and bell bottom jeans.

Given that backdrop - everything he says becomes "clear" - in a 60's hippie sort of way.

Marxist Obama thinks he IS the Messiah!


"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire. January 7, 2008.

NOW, if McCain had said that, the intellectually limited liberals would be having a FIELD DAY!


Anne
What's even MORE FUNNY is that Palin is more qualified to be POTUS than OBummer!

And now Biden is saying that Obongo should have picked Hitlery!

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/biden-hilla ry-a.html

And now Biden is doing the liberal flip-flop and gaffe thing!

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/11/america/biden.php

Can the meltdown get ANY BETTER?

Just remember to have a good stock of ammo for when the OZombians riot, as they will, when Boy Blunder and Biden the Butthead get trounced.

McCain/Palin Gotta Love It
It really was a brilliant political strategy to pick Palin. The MSM and the democratic machine didn't see her coming. Also, what schmuck would turn their back on 18 million voters? Only a narcissistic idiot with judgment worse than a blind crossing guard.

The hysterical part is the liberals are scared to death of her. The more we love her, the more they screech. They act as though Obama is running against Palin, instead of McCain.

The more this election goes on, the more disgust I have for liberals. I would feel almost pity on them for being so angry and fearful, but really, they self inflict it on themselves willingly.

I have had the displeasure of speaking to self appointed liberals who didn't bother watching the DNC, or the RNC, or learning on their own about who Sarah is, what Obama stands for, or what McCain's experience and record would bring us.

The only thing they can blurt is "Bush is a warmonger!" or "McCain is old!"

For those liberals who actually read the propaganda being fed by the Soros Army, they wil go so far as to say that WANT more taxes being deducted from their paycheck. You can tell that it literally pains them to say it, rather than, "You know, I wish I had more money for myself." But they are so trained and feel it's a mortal sin to speak out against marxist ideals.

Heeey, where did donahooey go??? He ran

off like a coward!!!

And he has the nerve to call Republicans "cowards?" Huh!


Primus54
I have to put down my fork and knife everytime I see Colmes' face on TV. Seriously, I have this thing where I can't eat my dinner when I watch horror movies, ER shows, and Colmes' face.

Well Burt, as much as it pains me,
I must beg to differ. If the Dems are so beholden to those interest groups, what does it say about McCain that he is beholden to Dems? Or need I remind you that on all of his pieces of signature legislation, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman, McCain-Kennedey, McCain-Lautenberg, you'll notice that the names following his all have (D)'s after them. Nor or they exactly promoting conservative causes or values, which is probably why he needed Dem co-sponsors and support.

In fact on my blog I looked at all the bills he either sponsored or co-sponsored during the 110th congress, and his name appears more often on legislation alongside Democrats with a 0% ACU rating, not to mention Hillary and Obama, yes that Obama, than with almost any conservative Republican save fellow Arizonan Jon Kyl. If we rightly choose to infer certain things about Obama based on his past associations, what do you make of McCain's pals in the Senate? He's known some of them for as long as Obama knew Wright.

McCain reaches out across the aisle as often as Teddy Kennedy reached out for a drink. And the pace has increased, not decreased, with time. How can you posit that McCain will appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court when he's already announced he'll appoint Dems to his cabinet? Who'll be heading up his judicial search committee, his old buddy Joe Lieberman?

Please take some time to reflect on this Burt, or is the willing suspension of disbelief not just for movies anymore?

Burt says:
They acknowledge they are not voting for God, merely the better candidate.

True Burt, we only count on his guidance and are grateful he gave us the sense too be able to spot snake oil salesmen. Can you say Obambi?
As for myself, I think he does have a special place for Marxist, communist, and their ilk especially people like Stalin, Che, Fidel and the likes. And it won’t be with the rest of us. And they won’t need too take wood for the campfire! They are all set.

LMAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

God, Guts and Guns made America free! Let’s keep all three!
McCain/Palin 08!

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Gunny: AND... each state dictates by

state law, exactly what responsibilities the governor has.

As it turns out, Gov. Palin has MORE responsibilities than even Arnold, in CA. In fact, as gov., Palin has had MORE responsibility than most all governors!

What infuriates me is that when these liberal idiots say "Palin is not qualified" no one says, "Please explain exactly how or why she's not qualified."



Recovered Lib sayz:
I am voting FOR McCain ... oh, and yes, his "sidekick" is a MAJOR reason for my support.

Change MAJOR to ONLY and I will agree with you 110%

True Burt, we only count on his guidance and are grateful he gave us the sense too be able to spot snake oil salesmen. Can you say Obambi?
As for myself, I think he does have a special place for Marxist, communist, especially people like Stalin, Che, Fidel and the likes. And it won’t be with the rest of us. And they won’t need too take wood for the campfire! They are all set.

LMAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

God, Guts and Guns made America free! Let’s keep all three!
McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal 12

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

shells1
Don't be to hard on the librats, the 60's were good to them.

For many of them, their last brain cell will soon die from loneliness and we'll finally be shed of their misery.

shells1
Alan Colmes is so ugly, he could make a freight train take a dirt road.

I've seen better looking heads on mugs of beer and more intelligent at that!

I like Gunny...
...even though I retired from the Navy!

Colmes is a true pissant - yet another liberal apologist.

But then, that's what the libs need to get the messiah accepted by enough people to get him to the White House any other way but as a member of a tourist group.

Anne
Hal got a hankering for a "military" breakfast.

I'm sure he'll be back for more punishment as soon as he's finished.


LMAO © 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)

Duke
THANKS!

You should check out the Anti Liberal Zone (Click on my handle). I step on liberals like they were ants instead of moonbats!

Alan Colmes has held Bubba Clinton's jock for so long that it's imbedded in his hands.

Primus54
Drunkahue's "military" breakfast consists of a few shots of cheapa*s regal followed by some "Cripple."

cheap champange mixed with ripple!

GunnyG sayz:
Alan Colmes has held Bubba Clinton's jock for so long that it's imbedded in his hands.

THANK GOD! For a second I thought you were going too say Lips. Opps, did I

LMAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

God, Guts and Guns made America free! Let’s keep all three!
McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal 12

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Gray Ghost
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 8:11 AM EST Hal Doofus Rides Again! (7:56am)
"personally I would rather vote for a man of integrity, youth and vision."

"...No, what the Dumbocraps have running is a man who associated with ... Party) in the US...."

LMAO see here you go believing your own propaganda. Your rightwing "chistian" preachers attacked the US on 09/11 for its "evil" ways etc and then their is your Phelps character... Corruption? LMAO after K street come back in about 10 years

Get'um GunnyG!
McCain/Palin in 08!

Doc
Don't forget that the darling of the Jackass Party, Hanoi Jane, like Hanoi John, has blood on her hands for betraying the POW/MIA's to the enemy.

WTFrack?
First I don't receive my TH paper in my morning email, now it is screwing and mixing my post all together and in the wrong order. Did they hire a lib too run the server or maybe a drunk lib?
HAL PUT THAT DOWN!

LMAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

God, Guts and Guns made America free! Let’s keep all three!
McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal 12

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Dazed and Confused
All of the Liberals and their media cronies are so consumed by Sarah Palin when they should be focusing on McCain. For once, I would love to see the media act professionally and ask thoughtful, insightful questions on both parties. Instead they are so upset and concerned over Sarah's religion, lack of abortions, qualifications, lack of unethical actions instead of what they should really be concerned with. Why do the democrats have an admitted former drug user with ties to a slum lord and an unappologetic terrorist as their nominee? Obama's resume is paper thin. I live in Illinois and he has done nothing for this state. Every bill he has his name signed to had been provided to him by someone else attempting to help him further his career. Obama can't formulate a coherant thought without his speech writers and a teleprompter in front of him. Just listen to all the "ahhhs, ummmms, well I oohhhh, ahhh ummm?" He tries to slam McCain for not using a computer, but since when is that a qualification for leadership, and just because Obama can read, that automatically makes the case for him though?

Anne, Libnut claims Sarah's not a woman!

Remember when I posted, how it was going to be entertaining; watching the lunatics who tried to convince us lily-white Clinton was the “First Black President” try to convince us that Sarah Palin’s not a woman?

Well its started. A few days ago Wendy Doniger, a Professor of the History of Religions, University of Chicago Divinity School wrote the following concerning Sarah.

“Her greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman. The Republican party's cynical calculation that because she has a womb and makes lots and lots of babies (and drives them to school! wow!)…”

"Wow!" Just about sums it up…

HaL the drunk doofass spews:
then their is your Phelps character

No, I am pretty sure Phelps is a hateful lib in his heart , like most libs.
He wouldn’t make a pimple on a real conservatives a$$

LMAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

God, Guts and Guns made America free! Let’s keep all three!
McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal 12

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Cutter Bench sayz:
Subject: Anne, Libnut claims Sarah's not a woman!

Well, one of two things here then. They have looked at their side for so long, Madeline Albright, Janet Reno, maybe they think they are all men, or maybe they all just have a little Alan Combs in them? LMFAO

LMAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

God, Guts and Guns made America free! Let’s keep all three!
McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal 12

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Drunkyhue
"Your rightwing "chistian" preachers attacked the US on 09/11."

One, try spelling for dummies.

Two, those idiots aren't my "preacher" and if I HAD ONE, they STILl would not be it.

Three, but I propose that those preachers are at least a cut above YOUR preachers of abortion (OBummer for one) and the High Priest of Gorons. (Saint Goreacle).

Take another shot seatbuffer.

Goshawk
More importantly, Palin/Jindal 2012!

BAM! The FIRST Female POTUS in the US comes from the RIGHT WING!

UP YOURS LIBERALS!

Why
Are there no lib over at Ollie's licking and running their chops?

New reality show
"Discombobulation" starring the Democratic National Committee.

Comedy hit of the season. I might even watch network TV if this was on!

GunnyG
How do you think Biden must have made all those Hillary primary voters, many of whom are STILL quite bitter about her failure to get the nomination or even the #2 spot on Obama's ticket, feel when he commented that SHE would have been a better pick for Obama than HIM? I thought vice-presidential nominees were supposed to, if not HELP the ticket, at the very least DO NO HARM TO IT! Of course, these are just the kind of foot-in-mouth statements we conservatives were salivating at the prospect of Biden making once we learned he was Obama's pick to be his running mate.

Of course, it's possible that maybe Biden's statement wasn't a gaffe at all but in fact part of an exit strategy by which he gets off Obama's ticket so Hillary can get on it - and there are other things that have happened in the last couple of days besides Biden's statement that gives this some plausibility in my mind. Admittedly, the Thomas Eagleton mess in 1972 did nothing to help George McGovern - but then again, THAT candidacy was probably hopeless anyway. Obama may be looking at the poll trends, especially since McCain's pick of Palin, and coming more and more to the excruciating conclusion that, for all the baggage he'll take on WITH Hillary on his ticket, WITHOUT her, he has NO shot. True, it would definitely be a Faustian bargain on Obama's part - but then again, liberals have shown over the years an amazing willingness to jettison their PROFESSED principles purely for power. Just look at what the feminists are saying about Palin, and how it flies in the face of everything they've been telling us for the last 30 years about the role of women, as a living testament to this.

Excellent Summary
Excellent summary, Burt. Keep it up.

Need
too run around to pop's house, back in a bit.
I would tell you not too leave doofass, but I know how hard it would be for you to get out from under the bar anyways.

LMAO hic! (not used with seatbuffers permission, because I will NEVER ask for it!)

God, Guts and Guns made America free! Let’s keep all three!
McCain/Palin 08!
Palin/Jindal 12

Biden shoots Obambi in the foot.
What The Dem VP pick has to say about Obambi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20pQK5KO2E

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean

Standshisground
GREAT POST!

I'm of the mindset that if OBlunder jettisons Plugs Biden like yesterday's garbage, it'll make him look even MORE weak in the judgement arena than the community organizer ALREADY DOES!

I'm certain that Boy Blunder knows that if he puts The Hildabeast on the ticket as VEEP, he'll need to hire a few food tasters as well.

Ratas y Ratones
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 2:50 AM EST jim

...You are, of course, exactly correct in that the leader must actually LEAD!

Many of our presidents did not do this in a manner worthy of the power handed to them."

See what you miss is that the president is not dictaator for four years but rather first among equals.

"cClain is a leader. I may not like where he leads us, but he IS a leader."

Really based upon what? He spins like a top on almost every issue. Heck hs selection of Palin is a classic example of caving

"r. Obama is NOT a leader. He is a follower. Anyone who changes their beliefs, based upon polls, and on a daily basis, is not a leader. That person is a follower of the polls."

He does not "change his positions" on the polls. But he does LISTEN to what everyone is saying and all voices get heard and decisions are made. If Bush or for that matter McCain had listened rather than "staying the course" things might be even better now in Iraq. Being stubborn is NOT being a leader it is being stupid.


Burt
Here is the Palin-drome of the day!

Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?

Hal Donahue writes:
"He does not "change his positions" on the polls. But he does LISTEN to what everyone is saying and all voices get heard and decisions are made."
-----

As Hal likes to say, "Rubbish!"

As we had with the "Perjurer in Chief", WJC; Obama is a pure poll-driven politico.

We might as well just run the country by referendum and save the taxpayers all the money spent at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I guess the Scranton PD has had little success in finding Hal's common sense.



LMAO © 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)

Hal Drunkyhue
He does not "change his positions"

REALLY?

Obama: Iran Not A Threat, No Need To Worry About “Little” Countries Like North Korea And Venezuela. May 17, 2008.

Jun 4 2008. Obama vows to end Iran Threat

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080604151531.0n3pr1 ur&show_article=1

C'Mon Drunky, you like Boy Blunder because he flip-flops like your other buddy, Hanoi John Fonda Kerry aka Lurch, Mr Ed, Mr Irak, Senator Gigolo.

Why McCain
O'bama has never stood up to anyone is his party. We may complain that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time but O'bama voted with the Democratic party 97% of the time and when he had a chance to help throw out the corrupt party officials in Cook County IL he sat it out until the good ol corrupt boys won and then supported them. Most corrupt county in the US and that is O'bama's support group. Mr. I Vote Present should be relabled Best Candidate from the most corrupt county in the US.

Democrats are robots.
They repeat the party line.
Change, Hope, Change,
Change, Hope, Change
They do not think for themselves.
I love when Rush plays back the media's reaction to the events of the day.
They all say the exact same thing.
It's laughable but scary at the same time.
Obama doesn't even know when human life begins. Apparently, he was not properly prepped by his handlers.
THe Teachers Union grasping for our tax dollars in turn train our children to repeat and not to think making more Democrats.

GunnyG© - middle manager
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 10:06 AM EST Drunkyhue
"Your rightwing "chistian" preachers attacked the US on 09/11."

One, try spelling for dummies."

Nah not for this audience....

"Two, those idiots aren't my "preacher" and if I HAD ONE, they STILl would not be it.

Three, but I propose that those preachers are at least a cut above YOUR preachers of abortion (OBummer for one) and the High Priest of Gorons. (Saint Goreacle)."

LMAO you right to lifers and the far left are causing abortions dummy


I see no good reason
why Hillary would want to help BO at this point. Her best shot at the Presidency would occur in 2012 with BO out. His arrogance would also prevent him from admitting any error or risk having a running mate that could eclipse him.

Any last minute switch would also bring focus as to how weak a candidate he already is. The more they try to sell Palin as "unqualifed", the brighter the light shines on BO's weaker resume for the Presidency (or VP for that matter).

I think the main concern now would be the libs have some time to register illegals, felons and dead people to vote plus all the other assorted mischief that typifies the party.

Cutter Bench wrote
Well its started. A few days ago Wendy Doniger, a Professor of the History of Religions, University of Chicago Divinity School wrote the following concerning Sarah.

“Her greatest hypocrisy is in her pretense that she is a woman. The Republican party's cynical calculation that because she has a womb and makes lots and lots of babies (and drives them to school! wow!)…”
===============
WOW is right!

ROFLMAO

Good thing this professor isn't teaching biology or something. This is beyond funny! First time I ever knew that being a woman/man was a state of mind! Of course, with Liberals, that DOES make perfect sense! Gender Neutral explains a lot! So does Brain Dead!

GunnyG©
Hal writes: "Nah not for this audience...."

How typically "elitist" of a far left-wing kook.

What he really means is he's too lazy - also typical of the left... AND passed over pencil-pushers.

I think for myself....
I am a Democrat, and I resent the assertion that I do not think for myself. I read the news; I read opinions and blogs written by well known columnists and by people who have never written anything for publication before.

I make a point of informing myself to the best of my ability as to what is happening in the USA, despite the fact that I am on a long-term assignment in the UK and therefore do not receive all the news.

I maintain my own blog at http://gayequalityandthelaw.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx (where I discuss legal and political issues that impact gay Americans).

Please do not use insulting rhetoric to abuse all Democrats. You insult me by inclusion when you do so.


PHILIP CHANDLER

setting the course....
for the future of the GOP. The most important indication that Senator McCain is one of us is his selection of Sarah Palin, a true Conservative. He could have made a very different choice that would have taken our party further to the Left, but he didn't and that is wonderful news for America's future.

I keep trying to figure out why the lack of experience, integrity and loyalty of the Dems nominee is never questioned by the media. Yet, Sarah Palin's real experience, true integrity and unrelenting loyalty to her core principles is under constant scrutiny by the MSM.

Scrutiny is not a bad thing and should be applied to all candidates. Sarah Palin is able to speak clearly and decisively without hedging her answers, unlike Obama who doesn't answer important questions because they are above his pay grade.

McCain/Palin = Victory '08

Primus54
You got that right.

Drunkahue couldn't THINK his way out of a thick fog must less hold his own here.

Farmer's Wife
"I keep trying to figure out why the lack of experience, integrity and loyalty of the Dems nominee is never questioned by the media."

Because The Chosen One sends tingly feelings down their legs.

Doc, Mrs. Paddy: The “woman” making the
...claim, "Sarah Palin's not a woman" was described by Tammy Bruce as “a look alike to Roger Ebert.”

Nuff said…

Blued Steel and GunnyG
Blued Steel:

Your points are certainly well-taken: I posited many of the same thoughts myself on a post on another thread the other day. The reason I think now that Hillary MIGHT want to be on Obama's ticket, if the opportunity presents itself, is that it's very possible that McCain's pick of Palin has thrown a complete monkey wrench into Hillary's 2012 plans. If McCain wins and decides to serve only one term, in 2012 Hillary would have to run against an incumbent female vice-president - which in itself would already take a lot of the raison d'etre out of a Hillary presidency justification, and the "experience" issue is with Palin, not her. If McCain, heaven forbid, is unable to finish out his first term, for whatever reason, then in 2012 Hillary would be facing an incumbent female president who will either have managed to sufficiently endear herself to the American populace to win election in her own right or managed to so poison the American people against having a woman in the Oval Office that in 2012 the American people would be in no mood to replace ONE female president with ANOTHER. Either way, Hillary may have decided that for a future presidential run, right now she can't afford to be on the outside looking in.

GunnyG:

And YOUR points about the problems a veep switch now would cause Obama are also well-taken: I've thought of those myself. But if it happened, I'm sure Biden would take all the responsibility for it to shield Obama from the charge of bad judgment. Also, Obama is now under real pressure in this race - and let's face it, when for the last 40 years have liberals shown the ability to stay calm and not panic in a crisis?

Whose country is it?
Matriarch writes:

"I would have voted for Mickey Mouse to keep Obama from getting his hands on our country."

**********
Response:
**********

Ummm, don't you mean "getting his hands on HIS country"?

The last time I checked, Barak Obama was born and raised in the United States, attended school here in the United States, served as Senator (one of the highest positions of public trust to which people may be voted) of the United States, and has always been a citizen of the United States.

Does this not mean that this is HIS country just as much as it is yours, Matriarch? Or do you believe that Obama is not a "real" American? If that IS what you believe, would you be so good as to tell us WHY Obama is not a "real" American?

I eagerly await your response!


PHILIP CHANDLER

A Vote For McCain Is A Vote For Amnesty
Just so you know.

Standshisground
OBlunder has been campaigning for 19 months and has YET to field any hardball questions from the libstain media. Which is par for the course from them.

Small wonder 2008 is being hailed as the year the old media died. (and THANK GOD for it.)

I'm STILL waiting for Hal Drunkahue to tell me about ALL of OBlunder's executive level experience, other than as a front man for Rezko, stealing from the poorest people in Chicago.

Whose Country Is It?


We the People of the United States of America have the right to have our borders and our laws respected and enforced.

Citizens of other countries illegally in our country have no right to demand anything from our government. They most certainly have the right to petition the governments of their home countries for change if they are unhappy with their home country. If they want to be Americans, we have a path to citizenship, more generous than any other nation, and it starts in their home country.

We need to insist on the equal protection, application and enforcement of the law or devolve into anarchy. Our Republic only functions if everyone follows the same rules. We should not change the laws to accomodate those breaking them.

If America annouces to the world "We can't stop you, so come on in" with another amnesty, the deluge will be overwhelming. If 3,000 a day didn't get your attention, then wait until it's 10,000 a day. We cannot sustain this influx and survive as a nation. We must speak up and speak to each other about this and not let false claims of racism or bigotry be used to intimidate us into silent assent. America is not Congress' to give away. America belongs to We the People. Speak to your neighbors, speak to your coworkers, but please speak up to your Congressmen and Senators. It's O.K. for us to enforce our laws, no really, it is.

Someone please tell Sen. McCain.

Virginia Patriot
And a non-vote for McShamnesty gains us what?

Four years of a flaming leftist with a leftist majority House and Seante?

THAT SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF ME!

They'll be rubber stamping everything that OBlunder sends their way.

McCranky sucks to be sure but once again, we have to choose the lesser of two evils and plan for 2012.

Palin/Jindal 2012-2020
Jindal/? 2020-2028

GunnyG©
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 11:17 AM EST Standshisground
OBlunder has been campaigning for 19 months and has YET to field any hardball questions from the libstain media. Which is par for the course from them. "

Ahhhh you poor middle manager, whining victim I feel so bad for you. Most of your "hardball questions" are myth, lies and innuendo so no reputable press would ask them. You are like the latest McCain ad you put out that Palin "stopped the bridge to no where" and then when this lie is exposed you put out an ad whining about calling Palin a liar LOL Geesh

"...I'm STILL waiting for Hal ... to tell me about ALL of ... executive level experience, other than as a front man for Rezko, stealing from the poorest people in Chicago. "

See lie after lie after lie and you expect someone to answer your BS sorry dearie

GunnyG©
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 11:21 AM EST Virginia Patriot
And a non-vote for McShamnesty gains us what?"

It gains you a different government from the one that created the problem be not enforcing valid rules on businesses


Virginia Patriot
Also, let's remember that while Carter was easily the worst POTUS we've ever seen, and clearly the dumbest, WE had a Congress, that while a libsquirt majority, had blue dog Democrats who LOVED America to prevent the worst of his stupidity from occuring.

Now, we've got a commie named OBlunder, a House led by a SF Commie called Red Nanny, and a Seante led by a corrupt socialist elitist by the name of land Deal Reid.

We don't vote FOR McCranky willingly amigo, but circumstances FORCE us to. Obongoloid is too dangerous for ANY position higher than County Pooper Scooper.

Hal Drunkahue
It gains you a different government from the one that created the problem be not enforcing valid rules on businesses

Sorry Hal, socialism doesn't work, no matter how hard you pound your keyboard and screech at the monitor.

It's failed in Kalifornia where businesses have been fleeing the extremely high corporate tax for better tax climates, usually OCONUS.

So what you liberals are REALLY doing when you attack businesses is drive them OCONUS and lose jobs for Americans.

But hey, it sounds great to the welfarites and other dumycrat core voters.

GunnyG
Yes, I'm enjoying the demise of the old liberal media this year. I'd have loved to be a fly on the wall where Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews were when MSNBC told them that it was dropping them as anchors on its election coverage. I hear that Tom Brokaw was a major factor in THAT decision: I can only imagine the in-fighting that must be going on at The Peacock right now!

GunnyG©
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 11:32 AM EST Subject: Virginia Patriot
Also, let's remember that while Carter was easily the worst POTUS we've ever seen,..."

See while you ineffectively name call away the fact is that GW and Carter will be locked in a battle through history as to who was the worst President we ever had. My vote is for Bush although close. Carter still left us a super power but Bush just left us a world power. If we were still a super power Russia would never have done what it did

EVER WONDER
about OBlunder's community organizer background and what it REALLY means?

http://www.spectator.co.uk/melaniephillips/2073071/revoluti on-you-can-believe-in.thtml

From Marx to Lenin to Stalin to Alinsky to Obomination.

Standshisground
Liberals are so much like the Communist party in the former USSR it's not funny. When there is trouble in the ranks, out come the flashing knives!

I LOVE how liberals eat their own. Simply fantastic to watch.

GunnyG©
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 11:37 AM EST Hal Drunkahue
It gains you a different government from the one that created the problem be not enforcing valid rules on businesses

Sorry Hal, socialism doesn't work, no matter how hard you pound your keyboard and screech at the monitor. "

NO ONE IS ADVOCATING SOCIALISM pleaase try and take at least one basic economics course from a reputable institution

"It's failed in Kalifornia where businesses have been fleeing the extremely high corporate tax for better tax climates, usually OCONUS."

Your Ronnie Reagan started CA's problems LOL As I like to say when Ronnie became Governor of CA that state had hands down the best school system when Ronnie became president the US had hands down the best traffic control system... see the trend? The failure is yours aided and abetted by the Ds

"So what you liberals are REALLY doing when you attack businesses is drive them OCONUS and lose jobs for Americans."

LMAO nice try Ds grow businesses Rs only help the largest businesses


GunnyG©
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 11:42 AM EST Subject: EVER WONDER
about OBlunder's community organizer background and what it REALLY means?"

A bumper sticker I like "Jesus was a community organizer and Pilate was a governor" Why not discuss the issues rather than name call? Ahh well we know why don't we? The conservatives and Republicans have so messed up the country that you can't stand to answer for it

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue asks:
"Why not discuss the issues...?"
-----

WHAT issues, Hal?

I've yet to see you post any comments of length that clearly defines where Obama stands on several key issues and how/why you agree.

All we get from you is the typical generalities & innuendo.

The problem you and other Obama supporters have is that you cannot tell me about all the "good" that's going to be accomplished - just that things will be "different" than they are now.

What a loser...

Hal Drunkahue
Typically, your BDS prevents any real facts from penetrating that thick layer of bone you call a skull.

Let's try it again. Please note WHERE these facts come from. Certainly Bush does OWN the IMF does he?

FACT: U.S. output has expanded faster than in most advanced economies since 2000. The U.S. GDP grew at 2.2% (average) from 01-08. (IMF)

FACT: The economy under Bush is 19% LARGER going into the next administration than from Clinton to Bush. (IMF)

FACT: US expansion of 19% beats ANY OTHER INDUSTRIALIZED NATION. France 14%, Japan 13%, Italy and Germany 8% (01-08) (IMF)

FACT: US per capita reached $41,813 in 2005. 37% OVER the UK, 38% OVER Germany and Japan. (ICP) (World Bank)

FACT: The US has the BEST Health care in the WORLD. We spent $6,657 per person, including illegal aliens, outspending the horrible health care in the UK by 50%! (US Census Bureau)

FACT: 3.6 million MORE Americans have health insurance in 2008 than in 2006. (US Census Bureau)

FACT: Private insurance holders COVER those 15.3% of UNINSURED Americans and illegal aliens. (US Census Bureau)

FACT: Investments in the US economy amounted to $8,018 per capita in 2005 compared to $4,963 in Germany and $4,937 in the U.K. (ICP)

FACT: US unemployment rate from 01-07 was 4.7% (average) Clinton's average was 5.2% (OECD) OOPS!

FACT: US EMPLOYMENT was 5% HIGHER than the EU! (OECD)

FACT: US Debt cost was 2% of the GDP from 01-08 and under Clinton it was 3.2% The EU is at 2.7% for the same period. (OECD)

PUNKAHUE
I see you've been tossing back the ale already!

Obama Taxes - Corporations will flee
Obama and Democrats want to tax corporations more to pay for their Marxist solutions for America.

We will begin to see a fire sale on corporations in America.

When Budweiser was sold (Anheuser-Busch) to InBev in Belgium - InBev is guaranteed $300 million more a year on current sales just because of lower tax rates.

$300 million a year is a nice piece of change.

Countries like Ireland with a 12.5% Corporate tax rate instead of the 35% (current) tax rate in America will get rich on the Democrat tax raises as they buy up American corporations.

Obama and a Democratic congress will raise taxes to the point, corporations will go on sale to overseas buyers - losing American jobs.

The corporations that stay in America, will start going bankrupt and have to be 'saved' by higher taxes and more corporations will fail.

Who could possibly believe that higher taxes will save the economy?

standshisground #89
Your points are also well taken. BO's meeting with Bill Clinton raised some suspicion in my mind of deal-making. It will be interesting if Biden suddenly has a "health" problem requiring his withdrawl. The MSM would certainly help with the cover. I still can't help that the public would raise some eyebrows in such a scenario and it would expose the weakness of BO further. I wouldn't doubt there is some internal polling going. BO will want eyes on the back of his head.

Retired Geek
"Who could possibly believe that higher taxes will save the economy?"

Liberals and their myrmidons.

HalD Needs Current Truth Updater
Insiders say Obama will stop the confusion of those trying to keep up with the 'Obama Current Truth' on the Obama website.

Automatic updates will be sent to your computer every two hours so that each Obama follower will have the 'Obama Current Truth' updated on their computer automatically.

Insiders say you should get this software as soon as possible because they expect the 'Obama Current Truth' to be updated several times a day now that Sarah Palin is hurting the Obama campaign.

Insiders say this will also help to stop the 'vicious rumors' circulated by the Republicans that Obama changes positions for political expediency.

When Obama kicks '1% Biden Under the Bus' the 'Current Truth Updater' will show that Obama actually picked Hillary but Republicans made it look like Obama chose Biden.

When Obama issues a 'Current Truth', every website and computer will be updated so when the Conservatives say Obama 'Has Waffled' you can point to the 'Obama Current Truth' and say that is what Obama has been saying all along.

Primus54
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 12:10 PM EST Hal "LMAO©" Donahue asks:
"Why not discuss the issues...?"
-----

WHAT issues, Hal?{"

Go to Obama's website they are all listed there in detail. Few surprises. I do not need to define where Obama stands he has defined it quite clearly

Hal Drunkahue is DRUNK
on the kool-aid.

Even the WaPo, a liberal bias newspaper is all over Obomboid's flip flops.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/0 2/24/AR2008022402094.html

He changes his stance on the issues like normal people change their underwear!

May 14, 2008. Iran is no threat.

June 4, 2008. Iran nnow IS a threat.

FLIP FLOP.

MY BURST!
I was LMAO (C) Used w/o permission.

that I forgot to post the link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/0 2/24/AR2008022402094.html

enjoy.

Obama promises free stuff......
...for life and in the latter, without consequences for poor choices. With Obama president, we can all stay children nursing at the government breast and we'll never have to grow up. We will remain maleable subjects while sitting on some porch, watching time pass by and then wondering where it went.

None of what he proposes has worked in history, but those stricken with the mental illness of liberalism choose to reject that. To these future serfs, utopia is just around the corner.

GunnyG
howdy!

"He changes his stance on the issues like normal people change their underwear!"



Too bad the libs can't understand that statement, as they only change theirs once a month when they shower!

gunny
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 12:11 PM EST Subject:.... Typically, your BDS prevents any real facts from penetrating that thick layer of bone you call a skull."

None of what you say below addresses the super power statement. The fact is we are no longer a super power we a world power as Russia just taught us. Shame on this administration

"FACT: U.S. output has expanded faster than in most advanced economies since 2000. The U.S. GDP grew at 2.2% (average) from 01-08. (IMF)"

What was made were did it go is the average American better off?

"FACT: The economy under Bush is 19% LARGER going into the next administration than from Clinton to Bush. (IMF)"

again what is produced

"...FACT: US per capita reached $41,813 in 2005. 37% OVER the UK, 38% OVER Germany and Japan. (ICP) (World Bank)"

per capita what? income? production?

"FACT: The US has the BEST Health care in the WORLD. We spent $6,657 per person, including illegal aliens, outspending the horrible health care in the UK by 50%! (US Census Bureau)"

WRONG nearly everyone agrees US medical care is falling apart at the seems including the doctors. Americans are going abraod in record numbers seeking medical attention

"FACT: 3.6 million MORE Americans have health insurance in 2008 than in 2006. (US Census Bureau)"

No where near enough and it is destroying businesses, families and healthcare

"FACT: Private insurance holders COVER those 15.3% of UNINSURED Americans and illegal aliens. (US Census Bureau)"

details LOL

"...FACT: US unemployment rate from 01-07 was 4.7% (average) Clinton's average was 5.2% (OECD) OOPS!"

at what jobs and how many workers gave up on looking for work?

"FACT: US EMPLOYMENT was 5% HIGHER than the EU! (OECD)"

So what is is as much the work and pay as the unemployment

You really should take a good basic economics course gunnyg may I recommend George Mason?

Hey folks!
Wow....GunnyG, Retired Geek, SSGTII, Primus, Vic, et al....

looks like the gang's all here....what's up people?

...how's the fishing...caught any keepers yet?

GW

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue writes:
"Americans are going abraod (sic)in record numbers seeking medical attention"
-----

As you wrote to GunnyG, Hal, where are your facts to support this assertion?

Do you have a credible source - a website link - anything other than your own anecdotal suppositions?

BTW, your suggestion that GunnyG needs a basic economics course is one of the truly laughable suggestions you've ever posted.

If there was ever somebody so utterly devoid of economic understanding - it is you.

Seriously, Hal. Have you been recently examined for senility or dementia? You are getting up there in years - perhaps it's time for a check-up.


PhillipCfromNYC
I thought you said you were informed?

Guess what you are not. If you were you would know that Obama spent a good portion of his formative years in Indonesia.

Have you heard...
...the newest Oblahma attack on MCCain?

...unfit for POTUS because he doesn't use e-mail.

...LMAO...there gettin' desperate...scrapin' the bottom of the barrel...

...I freakin' love it...

GW

Hal Donahue
While I loathe to even remotely talk to a cretin such as yourself I must point out to you that Phelps is a registered Democrat.

I know this because I moved to have him removed from the Republican Party the same way David Duke got the boot.

Perhaps since you seem to be so large and in charge within the Democrat Party you can move to have him removed.

Has everyone heard...
...the newest Oblahma attack on MCCain?

...unfit for POTUS because he doesn't use e-mail.

...LMAO...there gettin' desperate...scrapin' the bottom of the barrel...

...I freakin' love it...

GW

Rowly! You
may be interested in the dialogue between Brian and Goshawk on Gray Ghost's Blog, article on Sarah Palin. Here is the link:

http://grayghost.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx

Hal the "Economist"
Even as Hal continues his regular rant about how our economy is melting down - keep in mind that this is the same man who in April of this year, virtually guaranteed the country would be in an official recession by July.

Hmmm...

As an aside - it was just announced that consumer confidence hit an 8-month high in September.

Hal - don't you grow weary of being such a complete buffoon and Townhall laughing-stock?

Hal
If health care is soo bad here, why is half the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN filled with foreign patients? You can't swing a cat without hitting someone from overseas. The city has a pop. of around 100,000 but its airport can handle jumbo aircraft.

I know because I live in that area.

Hal Donahue
"Hmmm let's see most economists but now is not the time since GW and you incopetents have3 us in a stagflation type scenario"


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! GAWD but you are stupid!!! I do give you credit though in that you flip flop as fast as Obama. Simple fact of the matter though is neither one of you know what you are talking about hence the reason your flip flops aren't credible. People do not mind when politicians change their mind but there has to be a credible reason behind it.

What happened with Obama is the mantra of the 'economy is bad' was turned around on him and it bite him the a..! However he just cannot bring himself to admit that higher taxes actually hurt middle class America the most, ya know the one's he champions, and it brings in less revenue to the government. If he did that the Democrats would be forever toast. No one is buying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of America because we have heard that before.

I might also add that the government acting generous by giving back the money we earned is not generosity but arrogant and quite dictatorial.

Blued Steel
It was, in fact, that meeting of Obama and Bill Clinton, in conjunction with Biden's very strange statement regarding Hillary, that started causing me to wonder whether, indeed, "the fix is in". Also overlain on all this is the undeniable shift in the polls away from Obama and toward McCain. How much the polls can actually be trusted is debatable: but there is no question that Obama is losing momentum, and alarmingly for a Democratic presidential candidate in a year in which all the political metrics ought to heavily favor him.

I remember Pat Buchanan, on MSNBC, saying a few weeks before the Democrats' convention that the only way he could see Obama offering Hillary the #2 spot is if the polls showed him trailing McCain by several percentage points at that time. This is getting too close to becoming an uncomfortable reality now for Obama. I'm sure Obama's camp HAS been doing internal polling - and I'll bet they're alarmed at what it's revealing.

And you're right, if the switch happens, Obama can count on the MSM - and Biden himself - to give him as much political cover on this as possible. Since Obama would need all the help he can get to get the public to swallow at face value his justification for the switch in a way that doesn't undermine the public's already suspect opinion of his judgment.

As I've said before, to put Hillary on his ticket is a VERY Faustian bargain for Obama; not the least of which being what you raised, that he'd better grow eyes in the back of his head. But as I also indicated before, the lengths to which liberals will go in the pursuit of power, and what compromises they will make to get it, in the last 40 years have been nothing short of breathtaking. Just look at how the feminists are currently trashing their own canon of the last 30 years in an attempt to shoot down Sarah Palin.

Primus54
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 12:53 PM EST Subject: Hal "LMAO©" Donahue writes:
"Americans are going abraod (sic)in record numbers seeking medical attention"
-----

As you wrote to GunnyG, Hal, where are your facts to support this assertion?"

Sure the Economist two or three weeks ago had a great article and medical tourism is a growing sergment of that market google away.

"Do you have a credible source - a website link - anything other than your own anecdotal suppositions?"

see above

"BTW, your suggestion that GunnyG needs a basic economics course is one of the truly laughable suggestions you've ever posted.

If there was ever somebody so utterly devoid of economic understanding - it is you."

Gee and to think I somehow majored in economics and ran several businesses

"Seriously, Hal. Have you been recently examined for senility or dementia? You are getting up there in years - perhaps it's time for a check-up."

LMAO thanks for your concern

SGTII
"Too bad the libs can't understand that statement, as they only change theirs once a month when they shower!"

They shower once a month?

Could have fooled me!

Pailn
I keep hearing that one of the reasons Obama is qualified to be president is that he made it through all the primarys etc. So i'm wondering if Palin had decided to run this yr and lets say made it as far as Romney or Clinton before dropping out , then Mccain picked her, would she be qualified then? I dont see how just running for President makes you qualified to be president. If she isnt qualified then he isnt.

Lolo1
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 12:56 PM EST Hal Donahue
While I loathe to even remotely talk to a cretin such as yourself I must point out to you that Phelps is a registered Democrat...."

Anti gay is ALL yours

Sorry Hal
I'm not going to do your work for you.

If you have a credible link, post it. Otherwise I will assume your claim is like all your others - your own spin.

If you majored in economics - you might inquire to see if you can get a tuition refund. As my 1:01 PM post points out, that "major" doesn't seem to be helping you out much here on Planet Earth.

As to your biography - you are starting to sound like "Robert". Is there anything you HAVEN'T done?


LMAO © 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)

Palin And The MSM
For several days,Democrat detractors have been whining that Palin has not had any interviews. She's hiding from the public. All that rot.

Well,she did just that and did it like the pro she is! She was supposed to be badgered by liberal Charlie Gibson and she was having none of it. Stood her ground. Bravo,Sarah.

A few more interviews and she will be an even bigger star. She is a true conservative. What many conservatives have been hoping and praying for. As for me, I am thankful for her.

Blued Steel
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 1:05 PM EST Hal
If health care is soo bad here, why is half the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN filled with foreign patients? You can't swing a cat without hitting someone from overseas. The city has a pop. of around 100,000 but its airport can handle jumbo aircraft."

The Mayo is a crown jewel but hardly the average American facility. We pay far more and get far less. I am finally even hearing this from doctors now

Gunny G etal!
What are those eerie sounds emanating from the bars and water holes in Scranton, PA? Why it’s a certain LTC USAF (Ret.) (almost RIFFED) crying in his beer as he almost falls off his bar stool. You see he had grandiose schemes of being recalled to active duty to be BO’s Chief Air Force One Pilot. Perhaps being promoted to the elusive Bird. Now they are going up in smoke. Boo! Hoo!

Hepp de boy Jon Cary! He is suffering from de shakes.

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue writes:
"Anti gay is ALL yours"
-----

Spoken like a true bi-sexual leftist.

Hal opines:
"We pay far more and get far less. I am finally even hearing this from doctors now"
-----

More anecdotal evidence not supported by a single fact.

Boy, Hal. If you believe yourself to be a "moderate", do you consider Michael Moore to be to your political right?


LMAO © 2008 Hal Donahue (Used without permission)

Hal Donahue
"Anti gay is ALL yours"

Hal, Denial is not a river in Egypt.

he inherits them

A President does two things. Very important things, but mainly these two.

He appoints 30,000 people to manage the 3,300,000 employees, then when the Press arrives, he must remember and point to the appointee who solved a particular problem.

When a President is blamed for something, just remember that most of the millions of employees were in their office (and the coffee shop) when the previous few Presidents were in office.

No President hires three and a half million employees, he inherits them, and they most often have more allegiance to the President when they were hired, than to the one who is now in office.

Do you remember FDR riding in a tank, going to attack the Germans?

Do you remember Truman building the balcony on the White House?

Do you remember JFK getting his shoes wet while landing on the beach at Cuba?

Do you remember Clinton paying attention to the lady under the desk? Well maybe that one doesn’t count.

Well, FDR pointed to General Marshall.

Truman pointed to the carpenter.

JFK ignored Marilyn Monroe for a few minutes, and pointed to a General Taylor.

Clinton was already pointing.

The President is the point man. He sees which direction to crowd is moving, then gets in front of them.

That is also true of Presidents of companies.

Do you remember how good Henry Ford was at putting tires on a car

Tom Watson could not count all of his money on his fingers and toes, so he pointed to someone and said, “Built an IBM computer.”

And on and on, you get the idea.



PhillipCfromNYC
I could help but notice your hailing from Illinois now, and for someone who does as I do, you know very little about Obama.

Have you really been able to check to see that Obama was born and raised in this country, because last I heard, that was up for debate.

He might have attended school here, but he also attended school abroad. A religious Islamic school. No, I don't feel Obama is a Muslim, but he grew up in that environment, and out of this country.

He was senator for one year and by DEFAULT. One year. He was a legislature before that. Governor is also a very high position too, unless of course, you have an R after your name, to be sure, right?

Tell me, because I've lived here all my life in Cook County, Illinois, but you must know more than me--what exactly in your opinion did Obama do in the highest office of Illinois to promote that Change we waves around?

I mean, look at Chicago, look at all the things he could've marked on his To Do list to make positive Change for those middle-America types who are so heavily burdened with the highest taxes of the nation. What did he do?

What executive decisions did he make to take the burdens away from the everyday folk he now has to placate to? aka Typical White Persons Clinging onto their Religion and Guns.

I do believe Obama is an American, but not a good American. There is a difference. Tell me, Phillip, in your lifetime, have you ever gotten a pat on the back, a job recommendation, financial support from any domestic or international terrorists?

Ever wonder why Obama attracts and is attracted to people like Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Dorhn, Hamas, Hezbollah, Farakhan, Pfleger, Chavez, Al-Mansure and Castro...just to name a few?

Lolo1
"Date: Sep 12, 2008 - 1:06 PM EST Subject: Hal Donahue
"Hmmm let's see most economists but now is not the time since GW and you incopetents have3 us in a stagflation type scenario"


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! GAWD but you are stupid!!!"

Lve the name calling keep it up LOL

".... If he did that the Democrats would be forever toast. No one is buying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of America because we have heard that before."

Really from whom? And in reality a falling dollar and weakening economy is a tax on Americans.


Rowly
If you want to get a really eye-opening glimpse of the effect Sarah Palin has had on conservative voters, just go to Ann Coulter's latest thread and read The Big Mick's post of 1:10 am this morning. Stunning!

Hey Everyone!!!
willibeaux, couldn't get that link to work. I will try again.

Conservative posters (libs,too). I am not a special fan of Lou Dobbs who has recently colored his hair and had teeth transplants.

But listen to an interview yesterday with townhall's Matt Lewis about the liberal media. He lets the cat out of the bag!!

Standinghisground
I wonder though if Obama did yet another flip flop and booted Biden off the ticket and gave the VP slot to HC if it wouldn't backfire on him tremendously.

Hal Donahue
Falling dollar?



HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Check again doofus.

Hal Donahue
"Really from whom? And in reality a falling dollar and weakening economy is a tax on Americans."


Pssst....the real tax that is happening is the high price of oil that is driving up the costs of everything which of course impedes wages. Real average everyday Americans know this, ya know the one's elitist Obama pretends to champion in Scranton but disses in San Francisco.

HEY HAL DOOFUS
It's been a long week at work and sabotaging the Obongoloid/Plugs Biden Express so please, send me another one of your famous "Humanicus Lunatical Moonbaticus" emails.

The last one had us all p*ssing our pants laughing.

You remember the email address right?

libsmustdie@gmail.com


HalD ex ltcol, full time drunk
"Anti gay is ALL yours."

We heard THAT was also one of the reasons the AF put you out to pasture. Trying to "turn" those young airman isn't exactly serving your country as intended.

Primus54
Just remember, that to the Doofass, Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, Le