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Friday, July 10, 2009
Brent Bozell :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Jackson Whitewash
by Brent Bozell
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The Washington Post called it an "orgy of praise" and an "exercise in excess." They were referring to the star-studded, mega-televised Michael Jackson memorial service in Los Angeles. It just as accurately described the supposedly serious national media's weeks of outsized hyperbole concerning the life and death of a man who was a pop sensation, to be sure, but also highly controversial, even scandalous.

There certainly was the exercise in excess on the "news" programs. On the night of July 6, ABC, CBS and NBC, paid 20 times more attention to Jackson (more than a week after his death) than to the deaths of seven brave soldiers in Afghanistan.

They were only tip of the excess iceberg. Jackson dominated every "Access Hollywood" and "Entertainment Tonight" show for two weeks. The memorial service aired on 19 different networks, drawing 31 million viewers. At least that exposed one piece of hype from the Jackson camp: that "a billion" global villagers would tune in.

Many people were touched by the Jackson tributes, and none were more heart-rending than his adopted daughter Paris declaring through tears that he was the best father you can imagine. How sad: No one can seem to explain precisely who is the biological father or mother of Jackson's children. Such was his family.

It's not hard to sense that someone behind the scenes is still seeking to milk the Michael Jackson "brand" for every dollar. Every network that plugged into this service was accepting a feed from the Jackson family, which controlled every frame of what people saw. Huge pictures of Jackson with his arms outstretched were an imposing backdrop, with Jackson looking either like a Christ-like religious figure or a willowy despot of a totalitarian People's Republic of Neverland.

You sensed that some celebrities weren't there to mourn Michael Jackson. They were there to perform for his fans.

Behind this event's financial agenda was an attempt not only to designate Jackson as "the greatest entertainer who ever lived," as Motown Records founder Berry Gordy proclaimed, but to deny the obvious. Rev. Al Sharpton came to the memorial, not to preach the gospel of Jesus but to offer all his praises and hosannas to Jackson, praises which turned ridiculous. "There wasn't nothing strange about your daddy," he told Jackson's children, "It was strange what he had to deal with."

What? There is nothing more self-evidently untrue than to claim Michael Jackson wasn't strange. What was he? The Washington Post asked: "Boy? Demigod? Alien?" Time magazine claimed he "seemed so remote as so be extraterrestrial -- the moonwalking moon child." In a People magazine timeline of photos, he looks like he underwent 25 facial surgeries, which turned what was a handsome man into a walking freak-show headliner.

What made Jackson strangest was his refusal to stop sleeping with young teenage boys. He settled the first sexual-abuse charges in 1993 with a huge $15 million-plus settlement -- an action that hardly clears him of the taint of child molestation. Even after that settlement tainted his reputation, he damaged it further by continuing to declare to TV interviewers that his outsized attention to young boys was utterly normal.

On "60 Minutes" in 2003, Ed Bradley asked Jackson if he thought it was acceptable to share his bed with children. "Of course," Jackson said. Even after the allegations and innuendo? "I would never stop helping and loving people." In 2005, ABC's Martin Bashir asked again, and Jackson gave the same answer: "Why can't you share your bed? The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone."

What the media frenzy over Jackson's death may have accomplished is a whitewash of this disturbing record of behavior. The Washington Post described the memorial service as "the completion of Michael Jackson's 12-day transformation from ostracized to beloved."

Some cultural commissars claimed the musical genius transcended the cloud of molestation. Ta-Nehisi Coates of The Atlantic magazine wrote, "Woody Allen wooed his wife's adopted daughter, and may well be a child molester. But I think 'Bananas' makes me laugh. Mike Tyson is, among other things, a convicted rapist. But I had not lived until I saw him demolish Trevor Berbick. And so on. I guess I could peel these people out my life. I guess I could stop separating art from men. Regrettably, I think, I wouldn't be left with much art worth admiring."

This attitude suggests a very dangerous angle to celebrity worship. Once you can make us laugh, or dance, we're so self-absorbed it doesn't matter if you're a rapist? Let's hope Coates wouldn't add O.J. Simpson to his analogy. But millions of Americans did precisely that, as evidenced by their refusal to admit he butchered his wife and her friend. Such is the state of our popular culture today.

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Illbay - Well, congratulations!
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For somebody who doesn't know what the hell a "straw man" fallacy is, good old Illbay has just dropped his rump right into one.

Squish!

Fixing on Kinsey, for heaven's sake. Writes Illbay:

"Alfred Kinsey famously skewed the results of his 'research' into sexual deviancy."

And yadda, yadda, yadda....

Though he was trained and well established as an entomologist, Kinsey is forever relegated to the ranks of the pshrinkage, and you're not going to get the average primary care grunt to defend the "normality" of the guys who code their diagnoses out of DSM-IV. I can't say as I've ever known a single psychiatrist who didn't have a few more funnies in his personal "Comics" section than the average guy.

But what the hell has Alfred Kinsey - Illbay's "straw man" of choice - got to do with a discussion of Michael Jackson, about whom EVERYBODY is saying "pedophile!" in this thread?

Sure, Kinsey did some possibly skewed research on the subject of male pedophilia, published in his 1948 *Sexual Behavior in the Human Male*. The work is unverifiable owing to existing federal (DHHS) regulations and various state criminal codes mandating reporting, and thus rendering the collection of data effectively impossible.

Kind of like the way federal and state drug laws render it impossible to run clinical studies on the effectiveness of medical marijuana. "Willful ignorance" written into the statute books.

But what in your purple and florid imagination gives you to believe that I'm ringing in the research of Alfred Kinsey and his associates when we're referring to Wacko Jacko's pajama parties and the allegations of hide-the-salami arising therefrom?

I spent a couple of years stuck with the unenviable job of "VD Doctor" back in my youth, and I've had occasion to learn much about human kinkiness.

Learning, Illbay. I know; it's something you don't do.

Modern day idolatry
Thank you Doug Giles and Brent Bozell for the truth about M.J. The old adage the truth hurts is no more apparent than now. It has infuriated and flushed the M.J. idolaters out of all the dark, musty cracks and crevices of the world of din they call entertainment. Doug and Brent, you were kind; you could have revealed many more facts about M.J but it would have been to no avail because people of character already know what M.J was and his admirers would squeal all the louder. The moral bar of this country has been lowering but considering the rabid reaction to the slightest ridicule of M.J and also the election of B.O it is apparent the bar has hit the ground.

Kinsey's Dead - And SJ Doc's Not Well
> ...the point is that sexual paraphilias -
> "perversion" - are a helluva lot more
> prevalent than the unimaginative, easily-
> skeeve'd, willfully ignorant average person
> knows.

Alfred Kinsey famously skewed the results of his "research" into sexual deviancy. Among other things, this homosexual pedophile determined that ANY sexual interaction between two members of the same sex equals "homosexuality." That's how he came up with his famous "ten percent" rule.

The FACTS have been uncovered since that time however. The real number is between 0.75% and 1.5% of adults suffer from same-sex attraction. So the FACTS reveal that (1) Kinsey, like most sexual perverts who are obsessed with their own deviancy, grossly exaggerated the extent of the problem so that it would eventually be accepted as "normal," and (2) sexual deviants in general are focused on the "needs" dictated by their deviancy, not on more constructive things.

When I see someone like SJ Doc obsessing over the rate of occurrence of one of the most abhorrent of sexual perversions, I figure he's got an agenda. And probably wouldn't be acceptable as a Boy Scout leader.

Cynthia - Like I care?
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Writes Cynthia:

"Wha wha, MJ's perversion is not so bad when we compare it to others."


In my corner or not (since when is factual reality a matter of majority vote?), the point is that sexual paraphilias - "perversion" - are a helluva lot more prevalent than the unimaginative, easily-skeeve'd, willfully ignorant average person knows.

Or - obviously - wants to learn.

Spend a couple of years running a U.S. Public Health Service clinic, Cynthia. See just about every case of sexually transmitted disease (STD) and become responsible for tracking and treating every epidemic infection in a four-county area, and you'll learn enough about sexual kinks and crotchets to think of someone like Michael Jackson as more "normal" than the average Presbyterian.

(( Protestants. Gawd, what I could tell you about Protestants.... ))

IIIbay
I absolutely agree with you.
SJ doc, if he is even a doc, had me in his corner till the very end.

"revisionist Bull*t to dumb down deviance" seems to be the norm for today.

Wha wha, MJ's perversion is not so bad when we compare it to others.

Unfortunately intelligence , common sense and justice do not seem to go hand in hand these days.

Illbay - Too friggin' lazy to look, eh?
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Whines Illbay:

"Oh, and I'm supposed to look things up on the Internet, the font of all truth?"


Well, you're on the Web right now, ain'tcha, doofus? It takes all that much trouble for you to open another window on your browser and pull up a search engine?

As for "the font of all truth," what gives you to think that a dead-tree-format source of information is any more reliable than what can be found on the Web?

Slapping ink on paper and making the combination totally worthless is a commonplace. Look in your wallet. The Federal Reserve System is doing it to the currency.

The advantage of the Internet is that it makes research of all kinds less difficult, enabling a quicker, broader "catch" of information sources, including easier confirmation, correlation, and verification.

Of course, one has to have the brains and experience to take advantage of all this machinery.

Illbay doesn't have that, do you, putzie?

Beyond that, of course, it's obvious that Illbay is a sterling example of willful ignorance, "also called vincible ignorance, ...a bad faith decision to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt."

Oh, yeah. Obviously also not having bothered to look up "straw man fallacy," let me point you to a reliable online source:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

There's just SO goddam much that you don't want to know, right, Illbay?

Uckfay ooyay, Illy-oy-bay.

SJ DOC, Dry Your Tears
Sorry I made you cry.

I see things differently. You say that "people don't want to believe the truth." I say that "a few very sad, sick individuals want to twist the truth."

Oh, and I'm supposed to look things up on the Internet, the font of all truth? That was supposed to be "humor," right? People like you want to defend Michael Jackson on the basis that there's "no proof" he did anything wrong, but then suggest we ought to look things up on the Internet to learn the truth.

It is humorous, whether intended or not.

I repeat: I say your "proof" is just more revisionist bullsh*t, intended to "define deviancy down." That's what people like you always resort to in constructing your straw men.

And I see the effects of your virulent anger when it doesn't work.

Hypocrites flocked....
to the defense of MJ, saying "innocent until proven guilty". Many if not all of these folks were raving for the lynching of the Duke Lacrosse defendants. Welfare fraud by an accuser's mother disqualified his detailed testimony. Somehow this same sin did not disqualify Carol Mosely-Braun from election as Senator from Illinois (more of the "Chicago way"?). Nothing seems to change, it seems.

Illbay - You're on the Internet, sonny
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...meaning that you can look up Baron von Steuben and Horatio Alger, Jr., without any difficulty whatsoever. Web search engines work fine; exercise your teeny typist skills. why don'tcha?

While you're at it, look up the "straw man" fallacy as well. You've got no friggin' idea of what that is, either.

My point isn't that "this is an indication ... that pedophilia is just not that big a deal," but that sexual paraphilias of this sort (and some much, much worse) are far more commonplace than the average unthinking putz would like to believe.

And, yeah, as long as Baron von Steuben wasn't too obviously taking drummer boys off into the woods for quiet sessions of whack-the-weiner, Washington and his lieutenants would indeed have looked the other way.

You got any idea of just how godawful the Continental Army was in a stand-up battle before von Steuben did the job of bashing them into fighting condition? Compare their performance at White Plains, Brandywine, and Germantown against what they were able to do at Monmouth and subsequently.

That was von Steuben's doing.

You don't like the evidence that he wasn't "all man"? Tough. Reality bites, and you've got a big chunk of flab chewed out of your sitzplatz.

Extravagant Straw-Man
That post by SJ Doc is one of the most outrageously naked attempts at straw-man construction I think I've ever seen.

So, because YOU assert that historical figures like von Steuben and Horatio Alger were pedophiles - I note you provide no evidence, we're just supposed to believe your assertion - this is an indication to you that pedophilia is just not that big a deal.

"Where would we be without our fun-loving pedophiles," SJ Doc asks, fully serious. Gosh-darn it, when a guy comes over to the revolting colonies and lends a hand training the rebel soldiery, we need to lighten up about his alleged (by SJ Doc only, mind) predilection for bedding children.

If only God would let me act as a forward-observer for the lightning bolts...

Lupus non fuit pedophilia
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Cynthia correctly observes:

"However, Lupus does not make one a pedophile!"


Sure. And there's a strong suspicion that Michael Jackson liked to have it on with little boys.

Just like there's a *REALLY* strong suspicion that Baron Friedrich Wilhelm Ludolf Gerhard Augustin von Steuben, inspector general and Major General of Washington's army during the American Revolution, the man who taught the Continental Army the essentials of military drill and discipline, helping to guide it to victory, was a pedophile.

Ditto for Horatio Alger, Jr., the iconic author of quintessentially American "rags to riches" stories of plucky young newsboys, shoe shine kids, and other impoverished young male children rising to prosperity through thrift, hard work, and affectionate relationships with wealthy, established patrons in the business community....

One of the most entertaining things about studying history - something I more or less lucked into, incidental to an interest in warfare that dates back to the days when I first began to read - is that a great many of the paragons of virtue and achievement listed on the various honor rolls of nations were honest-to-Kinsey sexual whackjobs in their private lives.

Groping little boys turns out to be one of the *LEAST* noxious psychosocial deviant inclinations in the list. The dividing line between Dubbya and Dahmer is a lot thinner than most school teachers and other nervous nellies would like to admit.

One of the reasons why I have no reverence for high elective office in these United States.

Y'see, Cynthia, no matter what their image, no matter how they may reek of probity and respectability, I know that just about every one of them is a toilet-stall-groping, Congressional-page-diddling, bribe-taking, blackmail-susceptible, schnauzer-sodomizing scumbucket whom you wouldn't leave alone in your living room with your grandson while you went into the kitchen to fetch coffee.

Interesting posts

MJ was a deeply troubled man. According to SJ doc this may have been due to Lupus.
SJ doc makes a good point. If MJ did indeed haVE Lupus it can be a devastatingly debilitating disease both mentally and phyically causing Mj to miss concerts and the likes.
Lupus is nothing at all to be ashamed of.

MJ's mental problems however, were caused byu an extremely dysfunctional and abusive family life which may also trigger Lupus.

However, Lupus does not make one a pedophile!
This MJ mania is out of control and is a black thing.
Had he been white he would have been ostracized
and his career over long ago.

Do I feel sorry for this man? Yes, but I also feel more sorry for his victims. Their lives will never be the same. Lupus does not excuse this perversion.

Love Sj Doc's opinions on Barry, Hussien or what ever his name is!

Micheal Jackson
This man was a child molester and known drug addict and used other peoples names to get drugs. His veins in his arms were shut down from all the shots that were given to him over the years. He took uppers to be awake and the downers to sleep. However over the years of drug abuse his veins closed down. He had a beautiful voice but he is not a hero or a man of our times. he was a drug abuser and that is what he will be known as

To Mark
Very good points!

not to belabor a point, but...
re:
"It's only astonishing how is appearance was changing, when you do not understand the initial, and _ongoing_ underlying mechanism that sent him to the doctors in the first place (some of which did a poor job that needed redoing)."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

...regardless of whether Jackson had Lupus or not, there can be NO QUESTION that he had ongoing, radical plastic surgery with a CLEAR goal of looking more caucasian. He did not have patches of skin discolorization--> he was bleached from head to toe.

There also seems little doubt that his death was caused by a toxic mix of drugs, including some being administered improperly, and likely illegally... there were track marks all over him.

We have seen the famous (and ultimately very pathetic) doctor shop and abuse drugs before, leading to their early demise.

Jackson's Death
I have to defend the media on this one. This guy's comparison of Jackson's death to seven soldiers in Afghanistan is wrong. Jackson was a celebrity, and whether you like it or not, celebrities, politicians, and other public figures always get priority when it comes to news attention whether liberal, conservative or middle media. Even if the news had mention the seven soldiers, only 1% of viewers would remember them after the report was finished. Let's stop pretending that America doesn't love its celebrities, whether they are scandalous or not.

Wealth vs. the need for egoboo
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Andrea points out:

"...but [Jackson] was wealthy enough at one point to not have to worry about promoters and such. Anyway, we will probably never know, unless the medical examiner had even acumen to look for other explanations of his condition and eventual death.

"And ... there are other manifestations of his self-loathing that can't be explained by a medical condition, such as thinning out his lips, adding a cleft to his chin and adopting white children."


Oh, Wacko Jacko had "issues," all right. Just about anyone actively seeking the public eye pretty much *has* to have such issues.

In science fiction fandom, we've got a term called "egoboo." Derives from "ego boosting." It's the thrill of getting praise for something you've done.

Folks driven to seek praise - hell, adulation - are generally going to qualify as severely insecure. They don't have a particularly robust level of confidence in themselves, and require the ratification of others' approval.

Barbra Streisand's "people who need people."

Gag.

Michael Jackson probably had it worse than, say, Barry Soetoro. But they both qualify as deficient in terms of their respective abilities to live with their own personal slices of humanity. Each had to manufacture a false image in order to face the world.

At least Jackson had a valid birth certificate.

Given what each of these guys has done in order to make himself "suitable" for the role he wanted to play - plastic surgery, covering up all evidence of his real birthplace, concealing a deadly and debilitating disease, pretending to be "Black" when he was raised about as White as sour cream....

Damn. Am I mixing them up? Which one is the accused child molester, anyway?

Well, in Jackson's case it's easy to understand his need to avoid public confrontation with his SLE.

He needed the egoboo.

reply to oracle1
oracle1 writes;
Amazing theoretical excuses and rationalizations here... NONE of his M. Deities has mentioned Lupus, etc.
It is ASTONISHING that MJ's appearance could change so much, yet defenders would suggest pathological causes like lupus and vitiligo.
It seems HIGHLY likely that cause of death will be linked to drug overdose.
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You make my *very* point for me! Who said I was being theoretical? As a sufferer of an immune disorder, people around me either *do not* believe I am actually indeed sick and suffering or simply *do not* understand the way that I am suffering! Even though I have splotchy patches on my forehead! Something like that would have been *much* worse for a black (not to mention a performer!) and he would have looked like a circus freak! Furthermore, it can be an *ongoing* problem that needs continual addressing. Now, can you *say* that you suffer from an immune disorder? Or is it *your* accusations that are the theoretical?!

I do not doubt that MJ's death could (most likely) be a drug overdose. The fact is he was trying to deal with his symptoms, something that current medical science is *extremely poor* at doing for immune disorders, leaving MJ to his own (and incorrect) devices.

It's only astonishing how is appearance was changing, when you do not understand the initial, and _ongoing_ underlying mechanism that sent him to the doctors in the first place (some of which did a poor job that needed redoing). Really, lupus is multi-faceted and can affect the whole body in ways people *simply can not* understand. People would do well to temper their ridicule and condemnation for this *organic* illness that they can not understand or comprehend. But I suppose it is only human nature to do so (and why there ever were circus sideshows in the first place!).

(BTW, in case you did not get it, he *was* diagnosed by a doctor as having Lupus!)

Darn typos
Should say: enough acumen

SJDoc
Thanks for the interesting discussion of MJ and lupus. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis and willingness to give MJ the benefit of the doubt. I can understand what you are saying about such a diagnosis affecting his contractual obligations, but he was wealthy enough at one point to not have to worry about promoters and such. Anyway, we will probably never know, unless the medical examiner had even acumen to look for other explanations of his condition and eventual death.

And, as oracle1 rightly points out, there are other manifestations of his self-loathing that can't be explained by a medical condition, such as thinning out his lips, adding a cleft to his chin and adopting white children. His musical style was even white. For the life of me, I can't understand why he is an icon to the AA community.

Ah, Joe Biden. Even though he is a dimwit, at least the libs wouldn't have the racist charge to throw at us when we criticize his policies. The election of Obama is a liberal's wet dream!


Apples to Oranges #6 7/8
Consider that Elvis Presley (another case of self-indulgent self-destruction), recorded as many albums in two years as MJ did in his entire lifetime (never mind the varying quality of what Elvis recorded), and you'll see that generally, with MJ, there was not much there there at the end of the day.

But why was he considered as "cultural ambassador" by the MSM? Simple. His PC left-wing psychobabble/drivel of the kind one can get from Oprah (key examples: "We Are the World," "Man in the Mirror," "You Are Not Alone"). That's what "socially conscious" is code for vis-a-vis music: left-wing. (Also think Bono of U2. G-d forbid when he dies.)

And as for racial pioneers in music: Not just Satchmo and Basie, but also Sammy Davis Jr., Paul Robeson, Ella Fitzgerald, Lena Horne, Nat "King" Cole, Pearl Bailey, Cab Calloway, Billy Daniels, Louis Jordan, for that matter James Brown . . . hey, even The Supremes and The Temptations, if one were to split hairs. MJ was simply riding on all their coat-tails.

Correction
That should say: "no more world policing and democracy building" platform.

oracle1
I agree with you completely about W. and the neocon influence, especially since he campaigned on a "no more world policing and democracy building" campaign. I think the neocons took advantage of his instinct to retaliate for 9/11. His social spending was inexcusable, however.

reply to: Gestell
Dubya got neoCONNED... and so did America.

I voted for Dubya 2x as the presumed lesser evil (a Hobson's Choice, really)-- but he sure stunk up the place.

He spent $ and grew guvment (Rx Care for Seniors) like a drunken sailor Crat.

He let the neoCONS (whose REAL motive was to take out Iraq for Israel) snooker him into a profligate war against the wrong Islamics.
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11, and secular Saddam and zealot Osama were opponents on different pages. But Wolfy, Perle, Abrams, Feith, Libby, Bolton had infiltrated the Bush WH and effected their PNAC/AIPAC agenda.

Worst of all, like various other CINO/RINO's, he effectively embraced ILLEGAL aliens via neglecting to secure the border and failing to enforce existing laws... now we are stuck with 20 million soon-to-be-democrat voters... the left and the Chosen One cannot wait to enfranchise them (they need not be citizens to vote either).

Talk was cheap about defending America, when the REAL threat was allowed to flood across the border and permeate social pathologies (crime, drugs, gangs, identity fraud, illegitimacy's, tax and welfare fraud, barrio blight, school decimation) like the Black Death.

Finally, Dubya effectively gave us the ObaMessiah, because "change" REALLY meant a repudiation of the failed Presidente Jorge Bush... America did not really intend to embrace more big guvment, but that is what is being foisted upon us.

A reminder
Some TH readers compared the wall-to-wall coverage of Michael Jackson's death and funeral with the lack of coverage of the return of the bodies of American soldiers from the war. Just remember: it was one of yours, Bush 43, who decided that he could run a war with a "let's pretend" that Americans don't get killed policy.

Bush didn't want Americans to see that war has consequences. Jackson wasn't the only person living in 'Neverland.'

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson never did anything to hurt me or my family. Jane Fonda has.

reply to: crosstalk, SJ Doc, et al
re:
"Really, MJ's lupus could have been the primary instigator behind much of what is being considered dysfunctional about him."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Amazing theoretical excuses and rationalizations here... NONE of his M. Deities has mentioned Lupus, etc.

It is ASTONISHING that MJ's appearance could change so much, yet defenders would suggest pathological causes like lupus and vitiligo.

It seems HIGHLY likely that cause of death will be linked to drug overdose. The entire shape of his face changed over time to look more white like... a lady expert plastic surgeon said there could be no question that there was a persistent effort to blanch his skin and radically alter his facial appearance with "conspicuously white features."

If you look at time lapse pictures of him, it is remarkable how much his appearance changed... even one of his good black friends said that he kept thinking that MJ's appearance could not get any weirder-- but then it continually did.

His sisters also had nose and other facial surgery. They all got enough money to try to make themselves whiter.

On that crazy O2 chamber
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Writes crosstalk:

"Also, the lupus could have caused a severe sinusitis which would have made it difficult to breath and hence sing (not to mention he broke it early on) - and hence the nose operations. Maybe that's why he had that crazy O2 chamber also. The breathing problems could have manifested themselves further into an anxiety problem."


Hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) is definitely in the literature as a possible treatment option for addressing Raynaud's phenomenon in connective tissue disorders. Much to my surprise, I found it mentioned as a potentially beneficial approach to the management of acute central retinal artery occlusion (if the patient could be gotten into a hyperbaric chamber within 2 to 12 hours of onset).

Given the probability of lupus in Michael Jackson's history, his use of HBOT wasn't "crazy" at all.

I hadn't considered lupus-related sinus complications as a possible reason for him undergoing rhinoplasty.

ENT surgeons will almost always offer patients with various intranasal and sinus pathologies the option to undergo cosmetic amendment incidental to the performance of necessary surgical interventions.

The way I've heard otorhinolaryngologists talk about it, once you're in there, it doesn't take much time or effort - and very little surgical risk - to add some aesthetic work to the OR time.

If the lupus patient is in remission - and temporary remission can be gotten with the use of DMARD treatment - such surgery can be undertaken successfully.

The problem seems to be that the risks of adverse tissue changes aren't as predictable as the surgeons or the rheumatologists would like to think. Thus the gradual but unmistakable progressive disfigurations that developed in Jackson's case, probably leading to plastic procedures in efforts to improve cosmesis.

Rough damn situation.

SJDoc on MJ and Lupus
I am glad that there is one other person who sees things a little differently. If there was ever anything that truly had two sides of the coin, this would be it.

I have a patch of vitiligo that takes up half my forehead. Also, the lupus could have caused a severe sinusitis which would have made it difficult to breath and hence sing (not to mention he broke it early on) - and hence the nose operations. Maybe that's why he had that crazy O2 chamber also. The breathing problems could have manifested themselves further into an anxiety problem. He had a tough road to hoe health wise. I would like to see less about how Jackson had all the prescriptions and more about how everybody (including doctors) are ignorant about lupus, it's symptoms, and the fact that there is very little available treatment wise.

Maybe his attempt at recreating his childhood was relaxing and stress relieving for him. Jackson could have been telling the truth all along (though I do not agree with some of his behavior). The fact is, in the eyes of the law he is innocent. Really, MJ's lupus could have been the primary instigator behind much of what is being considered dysfunctional about him. The more I learn, the more I feel sorry for him. There really is no whitewashing going on here. Other than his doctors being ignorant about immune disorders, I do not fault them either.

Hussein the Hubshi out of office
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Writes Manuel of removing Barry Soetoro from the Oval Office:

"This scenario would leave us with Biden as president,and Airhead Pelosi as VP. This is hardly an improvement over what we have now."


Nah. If by some chance, *BOTH* Barry and Biden were to suddenly disappear permanently, the Speaker of the House (La Pelosi) would step into the presidency as next in the line of succession. And would that be so bad? At least she has a valid birth certificate, and no hair transplants.

But if Barry Soetoro winds up in a narrow little room in Marion, Ohio (where he belongs), and Joe Biden takes over as POTUS, he gets to select a candidate to fill the office of Vice President, the same way Nixon nominated Jerry Ford, and Jerry Ford nominated Nelson Rockefeller.

Nancy Pelosi doesn't get to be Veep unless Delaware Joe is dumb enough to select her as his choice for back-up.

Not that such couldn't happen. Never underestimate the stupidity of Joe Biden.

But think of what a wonderful kick in the fantail we'd get out of the arrest and conviction of Barry what's-his-name (Dunham? Soetoro? Who knows what's on his real birth certificate?).

The presidency - as an office - has become a pustulent sack of malignancy on the U.S. body politic, a stinking unconstitutional mass of horror that's destroying our nation. Too much power, almost every damn bit of it violating every article and amendment of our charter of federal government, an offense against God and man no matter who finds himself farting into that swivel chair behind the Resolute desk.

Having federal marshals walk into the White House, sweep aside the Secret Service detail, and slap the cuffs on our Magic Mulatto would deliver a brisk kick in the cojones to our imperial presidency, and I don't see Joe Biden -

Gawd. Joe Biden.

Think about it for a minute.

- I don't see Joe Biden restoring the prestige of the Oval Office any time soon.

Do you?

Obama Birth certificate downside
While I would dearly love to see Obama exposed
as the lying weasel,that he is,and certainly
think he should be required to resign from office,due to being constutionally barred from
being Pres. due to NOT being a native born
citizen. This scenario would leave us with
Biden as president,and Airhead pelosi as VP
this is hardly an improvement,over what we have now.

Where's the doggone birth certificate?
--
Writes Andrea:

"People will start calling you a right wing nutjob for not believing that the Obamessiah is a natural born citizen. :)"


I'm not a religious True Believer in any sense, and though it gives me profound bouts of nausea to contemplate the horrible truth, Barry Soetoro is inescapably guilty of such "high crimes and misdemeanors" as are required to get his narrow mocha butt perp-walked out of the White House in handcuffs and ankle chains, leaving that big, comfortable chair behind the gaudy desk in the Oval Office to that hairplugged half-wit, Joe Biden.

Gawd.

Joe Biden.

President of these United States.

Augh! Where's that wastebasket? Gotta spew....

Andrea - Hiding his SLE
--
Writes Andrea:

"While it would not have changed any detractors' minds about the alleged pedophilia, [Jackson acknowledging his lupus] would have explained some of his other odd behaviors. Why allow yourself to be perceived as eccentric and bizarre rather than suffering from a disease not brought on by lifestyle choices?"


Remember that Jackson had had some problems with music promoters who had sustained financial losses as the result of his sudden withdrawal from planned concert appearances.

If those were perceived as episodic manifestations of his "eccentric and bizarre" public persona - which was a carefully cultivated aspect of the Jackson mystique - they didn't (much) impair his earning power.

"That's just wacko Jacko," right?

But if he comes out into the open about having SLE, he admits to a chronic and incurable medical condition that's only going to get worse as time passes, making him less and less reliable as a performer and therefore less and less attractive to the people who book and promote his concerts.

Better for him to flaunt "odd behaviors" than to show up as damaged goods. The former has theatrical value, the latter....

Nothing but downside.

You and I might readily prefer to discuss a guiltlessly acquired medical disorder as an explanation for aspects of behavior adopted as the result of such a condition. Especially if it's not contagious, and doesn't necessarily prevent us from doing what we've dedicated our lives to doing.

You're an NP and I'm a primary care grunt. SLE wouldn't be much fun, but it wouldn't automatically knock either of us out of practice, would it?

For Michael Jackson, however, acknowledging his lupus would probably have been a figurative death sentence. You want that on top of the *LITERAL* death sentence imposed by the disease?

Careful, SJDoc
"In the same court of law that hauls up Barry Soetoro and throws him in the jug on a contempt charge for failing to produce his "long-form" birth certificate instead of that Photoshop-forged JPG of a false Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" document."

People will start calling you a right wing nutjob for not believing that the Obamessiah is a natural born citizen. :)

SJDoc on MJ and Lupus
"And what good would it have done him? Sympathy? From whom? Those who disapproved of his lifestyle wouldn't have been affected, and his fans - who obviously didn't give a damn about the allegations of pedophilia - wouldn't be more supportive."

While it would not have changed any detractors' minds about the alleged pedophilia, it would have explained some of his other odd behaviors. Why allow yourself to be perceived as eccentric and bizarre rather than suffering from a disease not brought on by lifestyle choices?

keith, va
you write "But since you want names, I have heard Deepak Chopra say that he allowed his child to go on Tour with Michael. I know this may come as a shock, but believe it or not, NOTHING happened. Imagine that!!"

really.
so many children, so little time. cant molest them all.
you dont even KNOW that "nothing happened" some things dont get revealed. even if "nothing happened" to one juvenile, what does that tell us about the others? nothing.
like geraldo the slimy stated, we dont even know the claims were true. the litigants were tainted by the appearance of avarice.
what we do know is that he admitted to sleeping with boys, and kept doing it even after having paid off one litigant. so was he a pervert, or was he just an innocent that wanted everyone to think he was a pervert?

On remote diagnosis
Writes oracle1:

"While I cannot argue the wisdom of your long distance medical diagnoses with you, I can surmise that they are wrong... I recall Harvard med school grad Sen. Frist being proven 100% wrong in assessing Terri Schiavo from afar-- her autopsy proved that she was brain dead with a significantly atrophied brain."

Well, Frist is a chest cutter. You know. "Smarter than a rock, but dumber than a tree."

He's also a Republican Party politician, meaning that Evidence-Based Medicine (EBM) criteria take a distant sixth- or seventh-place against political pandering.

I agree with you that my own "long distance diagnosis" is fraught with the potential for error. It's an exercise in deductive logic, predicated upon observed (and verifiable) phenomena interpreted through an appreciation of the pathognomonic features of a set of connective tissue disorders.

But, hell, that's how all diagnosis starts. Diagnostic testing is properly undertaken to CONFIRM a diagnosis already suspected. I don't have to see a positive ANA titer to start thinking about lupus. If I even order a rheumatoid work-up, I'm sniffing SLE or something similar before the Vacutainer starts to fill.

As for the Schiavo case....

I'm all for seeing Senator Frist sued for political malpractice, sure.

In the same court of law that hauls up Barry Soetoro and throws him in the jug on a contempt charge for failing to produce his "long-form" birth certificate instead of that Photoshop-forged JPG of a false Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" document.

Hiding from lupus
Asks Andrea:

"why hide the diagnosis of lupus? This is not the dark ages; he would have garnered much more sympathy by admitting he was ill. The man was just a pitiful figure all around."

I've been giving that some thought. Beyond the obvious psychological elements involved, there's the practical reality of a performing pop star.

Let the world know that you've got a disease that's not only poorly understood by lay people - and lupus erythematosis is not well understood even by most of us primary care providers, much less the average music promoter - and the focus changes from what you do on stage and screen to that dire disease you've got.

Let's say that Michael Jackson was somewhat insecure.

That's a safe assumption, right?

Admitting to the big, wide world that he was suffering from SLE - a disorder that rendered him susceptible to all sorts of pain and dysfunction, and (as we saw in the last decade of his life) at times incapable of fulfilling his contractual obligations as a performer, and he's "damaged goods."

For a guy with the need to get out there and perform (not just to earn money, but for the ego support upon which he definitely seemed to depend), going public with his lupus would have been something he'd rather die than allow.

And what good would it have done him? Sympathy? From whom? Those who disapproved of his lifestyle wouldn't have been affected, and his fans - who obviously didn't give a damn about the allegations of pedophilia - wouldn't be more supportive.

Michael J. Fox has Parkinson's - a palsy impossible to conceal. He's turned his prominence into a bully pulpit, speaking out for advancing research into this neuropathy and similar conditions. Good.

Could Michael Jackson have done the same for lupus?

I doubt it. And I don't blame him for concentrating on living his own life, as best he had the ability to do so.

It is clear that MJ did all he could to
appear white - why didn't someone tell him that all he had to do was register Republican?

SJDoc
As a nurse practitioner, I can understand how you would come to the conclusion that MJ may have had a chronic auto-immune disease from his appearance and certain aspects of his behavior. My father had vitiligo and in the beginning he compulsively applied makeup to hide the non-pigmented spots, but after a number of years there was too much area to cover. He also had to avoid exposure to the sun because those areas of skin would easily burn.

But, if that were true, why hide the diagnosis of lupus? This is not the dark ages; he would have garnered much more sympathy by admitting he was ill. The man was just a pitiful figure all around.


And the big surprise is
His father didn't organize a funeral tour through 50 cities and sell tickets to the extravaganza.

No Broadcaster could say NO!

I'd like to know why EVERY Broadcast Network had
to Air The HomoPed's Funeral? Not ONE of them
had the Gonads to say, "No, We are Not going to
Air this GARBAGE" I almost had respect for NBC
but at the almost last minute they deceided to
broadcast M.J.'s, Verbal and Visual Gas-Letting
Are the broadcasters afraid to execise their
right to say NO, because they are afraid of the influence of Jesse Jerkson, and/or
Al Sharptounge on the public,or Heaven Forbid, yet we KNOW it's true, the Goverment.
From One end to the other, Broadcast Television
Is sinking farther into the pits of perdition.

- Randy.

The Jackson Stamp
Al Sharpton, race-huster with blood on his hands and former Democrat Presidential candidate demands a Michael Jackson stamp.
Great Americans like Bob Hope, Sinatra, James Stewart and John Wayne had to wait years for their stamp.
If Obama and Congress allow the creation of a Michael Jackson stamp, it will prove that we've hit rock-bottom.
But then again Obama's election last November probably already proved that.

Lest you miss the math
White Men are less than White and Black Women who are less than Black Men who may abuse even murder them freely who are less than Dogs.

Welcome to the 21st Commieqr Century and the Quadrenium of The Looter in Chief (how dumb are our fellow dumbcits? Dumb enough to give THEIR CREDIT CARD to a strange black man from the Southside Chicago GangstaHood!) and The BLACK MAN!!!

Mick

The Real buried story here is RACISM
The BLACK racism President Obuttface outed when he told us the gangstasnthehood in the barber shop HATE us. The Black Racism that the coronation of Der Schwarzen Fuehrer seems to have lent a kind of warrant to. Whoopi makes the patently Racist claim that it's OK for her to drop the N bomb on her Dear Friends (DWFs) but not for no honky. Jesse Jackasson refers to his own "people" with the N bomb. What's his uglyface at the BET awards (ah for a WET awards)
outs it ALL by trumpeting that ALL and ANY criticism (read TRUTH TELLING) on the Black Male Liz Taylor (don't believe me, check the photos where they stand together) is simply a White Racist Tearing Down of a BLACK!!!(Black????, Jocko?) MAN!!! (give me a BREAK!)

Bottom line, the election of President B'HO has somehow communicated to the Black Racist Sub-culture in America that they are now safe in venting their utter hatred for the rest of us as often and vilely as possible.

Dere homeboy got a leg over on the honky so they figure they are free and clear to stick theirs in.

Save your ad hominems, take them as read. Rebutt this if you can with cogent argument. I would LOVE to be proved wrong, for the sake of the significant number of Black Men and Women I admire and would follow. I just don't see much chance of you succeeding.

By the way, I invite you to consider the OJ-Vick spectrum of Justice for Black Men. The only way Jocko was going to go down was if he'd dangled a DOG! WHAT does that TELL you?

mick

Dante
Because the Media Moguls value Dear Whoopi Friends (DWFs) and HATE the Military.

Your excuse that they only show us what we want to see is bogus.

They could package Real Combat Heroes in Afghanistan and Iran and they COULD sell it. We WOULD watch. A reality show starring the recipients of America's highest awards for Valor. It would sell ad time, to people worth going after their disposable income.

Do you blame Pavlav's dogs for salivating on cue?

Surely you read "To Irrigate a Wasteland."

mick

FORRRRRGET ABOUT JACKSON
keep your eye on the trainwreck at the whitehouse.when the clintons left the whitehouse the G.A.O.(general accounting office) issued a report showing hillary had spent , in excess, of 40 million taxpayer dollars on 6 spring vacations for chelsea. the 2nd spring thru the 6th spring hillary took chelsea on world tours for her spring vacations. michelle obama evidently vows to break those stats in the first 7 mos of her stay in the whitehouse. forget about jackson. demand that the woman who hates america stop spending our money.

What's Still Bizzare
Brent, what is still bizarre is that seven Americans died on July 6th and you still wrote about Michael Jackson today.

I can’t tell if you do or don't get it. The media you refer to, including the one that pays you, maintains an unstated mission as its only true guiding objective to reach audiences in order to make profit. Michael Jackson in death was bigger than Michael Jackson in life, and bigger than those seven tragically dead American heroes. (Jackson died only once; heroes die every day.)

So, Jackson's story ruled.

What also ruled, obviously, because the media was taking the pulse of its audience quite carefully (full disclosure, I work in market research) is that the eyeballs stayed glued to the celebration of Jackson's talents, not his tragedies and peccadilloes.

The lure of writing for an audience, any audience in fact, is generally too much for most of us with an opinion or microphone . That's really why you wrote what you did today and why I am writing this in response. (I suspect any other commentators read and respond to me will also prove me correct.)

Now what about those seven American heroes?

Dante



M.J. was what he was.
And somehow the word role-model does not come to mind.

THIS JUST IN!!!!!!....
...MICHAEL JACKSON IS STILL DEAD!!!!!!

News at eleven!!!!!

SJGulliti
No thanks, we'll pass on catching-up with the rest of you.

That line for Kool-Aid in Jonestown is moving along just fine without the rest of us -- we'll catch you later at another time and place.

if only that were all...
"This attitude suggests a very dangerous angle to celebrity worship."

Worse that that Brent...this attitude suggests that there are millions of people in this country who lapped up all of the coverage. Excluding teens, that pretty much means that there are millions of people with no path in life, wandering aimlessly in search of another messiah. But then, I guess that's how we got stuck with Obama.

As is usually the case, I read several liberals here once again telling conservatives what we should be doing and how we should be acting and thinking. You folks really should be posting at the KOS where the collective intellect there isn't equal to one conservative poster here. You're wasting your keystrokes.

Children
Jackson is super popular with blacks because he accomplished what many of them want, to be able to buy yourself some white children.

Barking up the Wrong Tree on Jackson
According to the Nielsen organization 31.1 million Americans watched the memorial services for Michael Jackson. The Tax Day Tea Parties garnered no more than 600,000 participants and the 4th of July version of the April 15 extravaganza seems to have lured far fewer as none of the media outlets that were busy touting the Tax Day Tea parties has seen fit to publish the participation numbers for the Independence Day variant.

I liked neither Jackson, his music or his bizarre antics, but the far right is fooling itself if they think there is anything to be gained by maligning a tremendously popular celebrity in a culture that celebrates celebrity, especially if that celebrity is a member of a racial minority.

Those on the far right have to swallow one hard fact and that is that the “culture wars” are over, except perhaps on Fox Cable News or the Rushbo radio show. The rest of the country has moved on and it is time for the right to catch up with the rest of us.

Woody Allen -- child molester?
Leaving aside legalities that Mia Farrow and Woody Allen were not married, her adopted daughter was 22 at a time, when her relationship with Woody Allen started. So, Woody Allen is a 'molester' of a 22-year old 'child'. While no one is going to make him a saint, or call him a model husband because of his movies, we should not throw away the movies because he cheated on Mia Farrow.

No one cares
BO is destroying America and you write about a perverted freak.

Do as I say, not as I do
I once told a friend of mine that the biggest problem the GOP faces isn't their stand on issues, in particular, because in my view very many of those issues are symptomatic of the underlying problem and that is GOPers take pride in being complete and utter jerks.

This Jackson issue for example, conservatives claim that the MSM is somehow dodging talking about the underbelly of Michael Jackson - the allegations of child molestation in particular - while I have seen every outlet covering the story mention that angle endlessly. Yet conservative local AM talkers, AM national talkers, and TV pundits have been absolutely filled with glee over the chance to take a dead man to task over issues that are, in fact, being covered on a daily basis by everyone.

Meanwhile when conservatives feel one of their own, Sarah Palin in particular are getting treated rough they counter that the media is sexist, mean, and elitist among others. When Conservatives cheat on their wives the GOP calls for restraint and a "judge not lest ye be judged first" approach while simultaneously calling the president a socialist, publically calling for him to fail, and even - most alarmingly - damn near hoping Osama Bin Laden detonates a WMD on American soil so that Americans will finally see the light.

The Conservative wing of the GOP is morally bankrupt. The teachings of Christ have no reflection on what conservatives do or how they do it. Their bastardization of the bible and ruthless pandering to religious faithful isn't eerily reminiscent of groups like the Taliban it is exactly the same thing. If as many conservatives had Jesus in their heart as they claim to the GOP wouldn't be such a mess. Hypocrites pure and simple.

The Party of HATE Strikes Again

I wouldn't want my kids hanging around Michael Jackson, but then from what I saw in the movie "Amadaeus", I wouldn't want my kids hanging around with Mozart either.

The way that the Hard Right minority is trying to take a dump all over the mourning of Michael Jackson's tragic death makes me wish that I'd gotten myself a big bullhorn and went running around the funeral parlor yelling "Iran-Contra! Iran-Contra!" while Reagan was being mourned a few years ago. It would have been equally offensive and tasteless.

Re: Wyndle
"Natalie Hollaway, the bimbo ex-playboy bunny that married a millionaire and then died of drug overdose and now dear Michael ties up the airwaves for weeks/months with his self induced expiration, who cares???"

You're confusing Natalie Holloway, a teenager who went missing on a school trip to Aruba, with Anna Nicole Smith, the bimbo ex-playboy bunny, yada yada yada.

That being said, your point is well made.

Who Cares
Natalie Hollaway, the bimbo ex-playboy bunny that married a millionaire and then died of drug overdose and now dear Michael ties up the airwaves for weeks/months with his self induced expiration, who cares???
Heck Michael was not even at the ceremony yet as Anderson Cooper and company started to debate the future of his estate and children.
As well the two black ambulance chasing preachers were both on the scene post haste as usual doing their part to steal as much publicity.
I just turned the crap off.

A heads-up
In one of her few intelligent/sensible decisions ever, Nancy Piglousy decided to bin Sheila Jackson-Lee's proposed resolution to recognise/honour the one-gloved squeaky-voiced wannadabe-caucasian entertainer.

(House and Senate should not be in the business of granting any honours to entertainers)

Agent
Do you think Bill O is a perverted sexual harasser?

Stephen ...
You're kinder than I am. (I'll have to think about that.) You nailed it.

A Drug Addled Pedophile Drops Dead ...
For the love of God people ... his own sister outted him as a pederast.

May he rest in peace and through God's grace I sincerely hope he repented of his sins before he died.

In life he was a pathetic excuse for a human .. a drug addled pedophile.

#2 First from MA
Peter King's Office was inundated with congradulatory e-mail so do not bank on his demise!

He is as entitled to his opinion as you are to yours.

No talent at all

When you hear noise coming from someone who is jumping around, you know they have no talent in either business.

Sinatra, Fred Waring, and all the stars from the '40 to '60s, sang or danced, they knew you can't do both at the same time. And tell me the name of the last tuneful song that has been written.

When you left a movie theater after seeing Oklahoma, Music Man, Sound of Music, etc., the people were singing the songs they just heard. No decent person would be seen or heard mouthing the current crap.

I could not tell you of his so-called ability to entertain. I never listen a moment to any of the horrible noise that passed for music the last couple of decades.

Since Fred Waring died years ago, it is doubt full that any of the Jacksons have even heard any music.

As far as I am concerned, what you hear these days is the "Sewer Sounds of the Garbage Generation."


Well...
Yet another "soldiers died in Afghanistan while the media gave Michael Jackson wall-to-wall coverage" column. Well in the same vein, I offer suggestions for future columns...

- Why do CEOs, athletes, and movie stars make so much money when police, firefighters, teachers and other public servants make a relative pittance?

- Why does so much food go to waste in the U.S. when we have people who go to bed hungry?

- Why do families spend money on vacations when there are so many poor people who could use the money to provide themselves with food and shelter?

What do all these premises have in common? As separate statements they are correct but there is no relationship between the two that justifies a direct copmarison. Michael Jackson didn't push the soldiers' deaths out of the news cycle. Indeed, a cursory review of Bozell's columns indicate that he didn't devote much column space to the soldiers prior to this one.

Bozell's screed almost suggest that showing respect to those who passed is some weird zero sum game...like we cannot honor the soldiers who died if the media is primarily covering Michael Jackson. Is there something mutually exclusive about remembering both teh singer and the soldiers?

A final point to consider: over 4,000 soldiers have died since the War on Terror began. Every one of those lives lost were in the service of our nation. Yet, conservative columnists seem hell-bent on singling out these seven, because they died while the media was covering Michael Jackson's death. So I opine that had Michael Jackson not passed away, these seven heroes would be just as anonymous as most of the remaining $4,000+. What blatant, self-serving hypocrisy.

Fair and Balanced
MJ was an EXCELLENT entertainer.You dont have to like his music to see this.He was KNOWN WORLD WIDE!That is a fact.
What is amazing to me, is the "Thinkers" cant seem to separate MJ the entertainer from MJ the private individual.I don't expect ANYTHING else from entertainers, but to entertain! I don't expect them to be involved in Politics,or world charitable causes, or "Giving Back" to society.I don't expect them to be perfect JUST because they can dance or make tons of money.Some how SOME social conservatives and liberals think that IF an entertainer is in the public "eye" he or she has the obligation to be a role model.I dont expect any of those things. I see MJ with some God Given Talents, that was a flawed human being..like ALL of us. MJ will deal with his alleged "sins" in front of his maker...as we all when our time comes.

As I was reading
the posts and the differing perspectives regarding this pathetic man, I couldn't help thinking what scripture says, "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul." Whether he lost it for eternity is for God to judge, but when among the living he was a lost soul.
He was one of those kids who never really had a chance, and I agree if anyone is to blame for the destruction of Micheal Jackson it was his family, mainly his father. And he's also an example of the cruel exploitation of talented kids in our entertainment crazy culture..it's tantamount to child abuse..how many child actors/music prodigys enter adulthood as whole
people?

MJ product of JJ
Michael Jackson was abused as a child by his father as is widely known. And still this man is trying to cash in on his deceased son. That whole family is so messed up. Why oh why would the court even grant temporary custody to Mrs. Jackson. She didn't protect Michael.

Having said that, it doesn't excuse his pedophilia. I do think that he had mental problems. What a sad figure. You can see he never looked happy and had much self loathing.

He's gone now. He's not an icon or anything else anymore.

His judgment for what he did in life is now in the hands of God.

Stephen:
You are much kinder than I, and I applaud you for it.

Thank you for expressing gentle, compassionate sentiments.

Juanita

Terry #19
Frankly, I was disgusted by the over-the-top coverage of Natalie Holloway. She was sent to Aruba by a negligent mother to party and sc*** with a bunch of other kids that had no adult supervision and she never came home. I thought the stupid mother should have been arrested. I didn't appreciate that waste of time and I would not have appreciated the time wasted on MJ, either. The difference is that I no longer watch FOX News, just as I no longer watch any other television 'news' channel. The terms 'yellow journalism,' lies, deceit, and white wash do not adequately describe the 'work' done by 'journalists.'

Oracle1@ 8:51
Congressman King and O'Reilly were spot on correct--> who would have let their young children be alone with the guy..


Well since there were kids around, obviously a lot of people allowed that to happen. But since you want names, I have heard Deepak Chopra say that he allowed his child to go on Tour with Michael. I know this may come as a shock, but believe it or not, NOTHING happened. Imagine that!!

SJDoc
Cut him all the slack you want, and do all of the remote Dx you can. All I know is what he said. In a 2006 interview I just saw he claimed he NEVER bleached his skin. That the concept was ridiculous. He said he was proud to be a black man during that interview. If lupus was his issue, why didn't he say so? Altho, in fairness, I do remember speculation that he had some sort of skin issue that discolors skin, but he didn't mention that in the interview. Not a word. Had he, he would have come off a lot more credible and a lot less creepy. Well, the 'sharing your bed is the most loving thing you can do' thing was pretty creepy, too, especially when talking about little boys...

You're reaching...really reaching. I stick with my initial Dx: his disease was a textbook case of gross self indulgence which led to a secondary infection of psychotic permanently infantile syndrome, compounded by an overwhelmingly obsessive relationship with extremely reckless Rx therapy, and a house doctor of his very own to keep things legal...or not. Compared to what he did to himself, Doc, lupus would have been a blessing.

Satchmo Is My Star
Why all the adulation for Michael Jackson? It really types me as a senior citizen but the black musician I admired was Louis Armstrong, Satchmo.

Armstrong experienced racism like no other black musician. Some nightclubs refused him entry because of his race but he conquered all, becoming one of the greatest black musicians ever produced by America.

I grew up in the jazz era of Count Basie and Satchmo so I guess I'll never understand why Jackson was worshipped. I don't think Jackson is in the same league.

Troubled Soul
His faults were alleged by people that were more of the same ilk that surrounded him his entire life.

It's unlikely that a reasonable adult would think it normal to have sleep-overs with children. It's equally unreasonable that that same adult would gladly admit such behavior to the world on national television and not comprehend how that could be perceived as despicable.

I'm not sure if he ever molested anyone or even considered such activity. But I am fairly certain that he lived a sheltered life as the golden goose that his family and entourage exploited since he was a small child.

Whatever problems he had, they were only symptomatic of the troubled soul that he was. Searching for answers and help without being able to trust anyone as having an honest thought absent self-aggrandizement.

As far as long distance medical diagnoses, well I've got one; psychological fixation. Imprisoned in an artificial life without material boundaries, yet in emotional solitary confinement. I don't think he ever moved past being a child in his mind.

Michael Jackson is also an iconic case study into the importance of fame and fortune in our culture at the expense of the soul. Contemporary values are on parade and it's a masquerade. The MJ heralders are simply putting lipstick on the net effect of their idolatry.

I'm the same age as MJ and grew up watching his entire life on stage. I wasn't a huge fan, but always felt a connection being from the same generation. More often than not, I felt pity for his way of life and the pressure he must have been under.

He deserves reflection as he exits this world. If for no other reason, than he was almost universally known. His sins are not for me to judge, but his demons are a good lesson for all to consider.

Michael Jackson
I remember as a child when my Mom had invited all the kids next door over to our house. We were in my large bedroom (which had a piano in it) and my Mom and all the kids (boys and girls from early teens down to little kids)were on my bed, leaning against the wall or sprawled out, my Mom in the middle, and we were all signing to my piano playing. Until, of course, the Mom next door came over, became freaked out that "this grown women had these children in a BED with her" and pulled all the kids out. What the heck was anybody doing wrong there?

I'm not saying that I know for a fact that Michael Jackson was innocent (although a jury sure seemed to think so) of the "molestation" of which he was accused, but I tell my story to illustrate that some perspectives are clearly false, and can do great harm.

BRENT, TAKE A NUMBER
Brent Bozell hates Michael Jackson. Join the (very long) line, Brent, because the past two weeks have NOT been " an orgy of praise". Nearly all the time has been devoted to the same stories of alleged child molestation, excessive drug use, plastic surgery, artificial insemination, etc. that you have repeated in this article. MJ has been denounced by Peter King, Maureen Orth, Diane Dimond, Lisa Bloom, Bill O'Reilly, Megyn Kelly, Donny Deutsch, Gretchen Carlson, Geraldo Rivera, et al. Guess what, Brent: Elvis was an upfront child molester and drug user, too. But you never denounced him.

MJ
"The Jackson Whitewash "

I thought it was bleach.

reply to SJ Doc
While I cannot argue the wisdom of your long distance medical diagnoses with you, I can surmise that they are wrong... I recall Harvard med school grad Sen. Frist being proven 100% wrong in assessing Terri Schiavo from afar-- her autopsy proved that she was brain dead with a significantly atrophied brain.

I have also seen several reputable, even renowned, physicians, including plastic surgeons, conclude based upon closer study that Michael had a multitude surgeries and treatments trying to look white, probably because he was beset by self-loathing... he had been taunted as a child about his ugly nose.

His sisters are also known to have had surgeries to look whiter... so much for "Black Pride."

amazing, and sad really
re:
Rev. Al Sharpton came to the memorial, not to preach the gospel of Jesus but to offer all his praises and hosannas to Jackson, praises which turned ridiculous. "There wasn't nothing strange about your daddy," he told Jackson's children, "It was strange what he had to deal with."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It was stunning how Michael suddenly became black again after many years and surgeries trying to become white-- ONLY the blacks could ignore this when given an excuse to wax nostalgic about him, while overlooking his acute weirdness and drug addiction. Only they could use his death to dramatize their race.

Race hustler Revrund Al hyperbolized that Michael had changed race relations, paving the way for America to elect a black guy as POTUS-- HOGWASH!

Congressman King and O'Reilly were spot on correct--> who would have let their young children be alone with the guy?

Great excess.
How could you possibly miss CNN; night and day. Larry King has enough to last him for the next two years. It's lasted him for about the last 5/6 nights.

WP
For once I agree with them. But, after all, even a blind pig finds an acorn sometimes.
Donald W. Bales

Sensationalism
is the word to describe the MSM and the coverage of Jackson's death. The same can be said of Elvis and O.J. ect. I've lived through all of that including the death and burial of John, Robert and Chappaquidick, not to mention Princess Diana (whom I really liked).
Priorites of the right sort seem to elude the MSM.
Being somewhat of a musical life style, I have often wondered why that only a small mention on the backside of a newspaper reported the death of the world's greatest guitarist, Andre Segovia? or Chester Atkins who recorded with the Boston Pops, Les Paul, played Beattle music and country and western.
These along with Tommy Dorsey, Glenn Miller, Bing Crosby were noted for good music not the slam-bam thank you mam, hold on to your crotch wiggles of the pop culture.
To the MSM and other tabloids it is not about honoring musicians of great accomplishment but to promote the glitzy, stobe lighting suggestive dancing and the murder of the guitar with speaker bursting decibles.
America has sold it's soul out to the glitzy. I guess that's the rest of the story and besides it sells news gatherers.

AAAAAGHHHH!
WOULD WE PLEASE CAN THE MICHAEL JACKSON COVERAGE? I am SCREAMING SICK AND TIRED of the attention given to an entertainer's death when there's trouble brewing in China; a reckless, spendthrift Congress; and other matters to cover.

The Obama Whitewash
What about the Obama whitewash? Isn't it just a bit more serious?

OBAMA IS KILLING US, ONE AND ALL

Please see my four posts – the first posts made there today - to Donald Lambro’s “Dems’ Recruitment Failures Hurt Party Brand” and their references and proofs.

Terry
MSM senior staff consist of balding 1960s radicals who would sooner mourn the loss of an executed murderer than our brave military dead. They would put casualty numbers on the front page not to report facts, but to drub public support for W's War on Terror.

So I do not see the same hypocrisy that you do. Just Bozell's implied observation that the public's misplaced attention is terrible for troop morale.

Jackson's naiveté
The7Sticks wrote: "but because Jackson was the naive man-child that he was, he didn't know how to deal with extortion and predatory John Edwards-style trial lawyers."

Is that the same "naive" Jackson who put together those complicated deals to buy important music catalogs?

That doesn't wash.

I'm not being mean by believing that he was a bad person. I'm just being honest.

I enjoy his music. I'm thankful that I can now buy it without enriching him.

Jackson's appearance
--
Writes Juanita:

"Puhleeease. He bleached his skin, straighted his hair and cut his nose off to spite his face -- literally."

Though I don't much like remote diagnosis, it seems that Michael Jackson was suffering from either discoid or subacute lupus erythematosis, a chronic rheumatoid (autoimmune) condition that not only explains a lot of his health problems - including his sudden cardiac death - but also his appearance.

Vitiligo - loss of skin pigmentation in patches - is one of the manifestations of discoid and systemic lupus erythematosis, and apart from make-up to "color in" the depigmented areas, what's the only other option?

Right. Bleaching out the areas that remain pigmented to get some sort of consistency in coloration.

This also explains his aversion to sunlight, including his constant use of umbrellas. UV light does injury to a patient with SLE.

Even his trademark one-glove "fetish" makes sense. Think Reynaud's phenomenon, another manifestation of lupus, and how it can leave one or two fingertips discolored and exquisitely painful. People with Reynaud's commonly Band-Aid those fingertips to protect them, as Jackson was seen to do.

I've begun to look at Michael Jackson as someone suffering from a debilitating and almost invariably fatal disease who did his best to conceal the disfiguring effects of a condition akin to leprosy, experiencing a helluva lot of pain every day (no wonder he was taking all those opiates), facing the prospect of blindness, kidney failure, and every sort of central and peripheral neuropathy in the book.

Michael Jackson was looking death in the eye every minute of every day.

I'm inclined to cut the guy a little slack.

--

First:
WE didn't destroy the guy. HE destroyed himself, and all of you 'great fans' that 'he loved so much' destroyed him, even after his aquittal.

Where were all of these people, crying and mourning and grieving so publicly, when he was in exile from all of you after his aquittal? He was not guilty, but you shunned him still. Now, all of the sudden, he's like this AA icon that united the masses? Puhleeease. He bleached his skin, straighted his hair and cut his nose off to spite his face -- literally. THAT'S an African American icon? He arranged to 'father' white kids - is that AA iconic too? He slept with boys in his bed and thought nothing of it. The biggest indicator is the question that you will not even want to answer: would YOU have allowed any child YOU know to spend the nite with him?

He was a big icon alright. But not for reasons those leeching on his post mortem fame claim with big tears. He had talent - no one denies that. He sure could sing and dance. But along with the real Michael Jackson, there wasn't much of that left when he got done with himself - those rehearsals were tough on him, with all of the self abuse he was inflicting. He was a twisted, warped, pathetically infantile man. NOT some kind of saint. The reason we are still talking is because the ppl who are leeching are still leeching.

Terry...
...Honestly, I don't think you are comparing apples with apples here. Michael Jackson was a talented entertainer with some gargantuan skeletons in and out of his closet/bedroom. I see him as a study in complete self indulgence, much like Elvis and Anna Nicole Smith, to name a few.

Natalie Holloway however COULD have been someone 'we know', and people were looking for her. And logically, news time has to be filled with something. I would much rather see investigative coverage on 20 'someones we don't know' than on one single pitiful man whose life has already been dissected and displayed and dissected and displayed again...and again.

Naturally
"On the night of July 6, ABC, CBS and NBC, paid 20 times more attention to Jackson (more than a week after his death) than to the deaths of seven brave soldiers in Afghanistan."

If the King of Pop hadn't died, some other event would've pushed Afghanistan out of the headlines. Bush is gone, and no one in the subservient press is keen on embarrassing the Messiah with body counts.


Appealing to the fan base
--
De gustibus non disputandum est.

The guy had - still has - a bunch of people who went nuts for the music he created and performed. "King of pop" and all that crap.

Having spent a lifetime indifferent to popular music of any kind - from Frank Sinatra through Green Day - I couldn't care less about Michael Jackson.

But the mainstream media (AKA "the drive-by media") have to grab eyeballs, and there are a helluva lot of eyeballs out there seeking an MJ fix.

Well, hell. There are a lot of people out there who voted for Barry Soetoro, right? Nobody ever lost a dime underestimating the taste - or good sense - of the American public.

There's no use creebing about popular taste. We've seen this before, and we'll see it again.

As we say here in New Jersey whenever we elect a governor:

"Let's just hope the next one is a heterosexual."

--

A Question for Conservatives
I think it is fair to say, that FOX News is preferred by most Conservatives over the others. I think that is fair to say.

So my question is, were any of you folks outraged about the non-stop coverage by FOX on the Natalie Holloway story? Day after day for several months, FOX was continually reporting about a missing teenage girl that none of us knew and of course people go missing every single day in this country. Yet day after day it was another report on Natalie Holloway: Who talked to who, who said what, who believes this that and the other, live interviews with this relative of Natalie Holloway, that relative, a friend of hers here and there, the life story of the boys she was supposedly with...it went on and on and on all day -- every day!

And all those months that FOX was obsessed with Natalie Holloway, did we not have troops dying in Iraq? Weren't there troops coming home in coffins that no one was paying attention to?

But now that the Media has been reporting on Michael Jackson for two weeks, people are outraged about all the Media coverage of a "Pop-Star?" Hell, at least he was a pop-star that was world famous -- not a teenage girl that no one had ever heard of!

I find the coverage of Michael Jackson to just be silly and amusing. But the reaction of the coverage by we Conservatives is downright comedic! Hollering and screaming about troops dying and what-not and demanding the Media move on to more important things and what have you.

But just hold on, it won't be long before someone else that we don't know will be missing, or another man somewhere that we don't know will kill his wife that we don't know -- and the Media will get back to reporting on all those important things like that. While our soldiers are dying in Afghanistan.

Merle
"I had a buddy in Nam who slaughtered 25 unarmed people,...."

Stereotypical B.S.perpetuated by the ignorant.

We're Starting to Act Like Liberals
Brent Bozell is yet another columnist mentioning that troops were killed in Afghanistan and the Media was busy covering Michael Jackson.

Yet, it wasn't all that long ago that the Media wanted to go on and on about every single soldier that was killed in Iraq or Afghanistan. And it was we Conservatives that took the position that casualties are an unfortunate part of war and we don't need to dwell on it -- let's move on. We Conservatives acted astounded and astonished that the Media would want to carry-on so everyday about the death of another soldier.

It was we Conservatives who agreed with the Bush Administration's policy of not displaying the coffins of fallen soldiers when the Media was demanding otherwise. We Conservatives believed, and rightfully so, that we shouldn't make a circus out of the deaths of our soldiers. And we also believed that their burials should be private matters of their families and such. Rightfully so.

But now that the Media is spending so much time on Michael Jackson, we've got folks outraged that there is not enough coverage about the deaths of soldiers in Afghanistan! Poster after poster out here on townhall stating that we should be "memorializing" our soldiers and such, instead of all this coverage on Michael Jackson.

There is nothing newsworthy about soldiers dying in Afghanistan. We hate that they're dying, we feel for their families and sensible people are damned appreciative of their sacrifices. But the fact remains, there is nothing newsworthy about their deaths. We used to understand that.

Townhall is "sick" of MJ
So they write ANOTHER article about him.

Conservative Jealousy
The root of most of the anti-Jackson Conservative backlash is rooted in jealousy and anger that they are no longer a relevant political force in America.

Conservatives focus on the problems, challenges, and difficulties Michael had, are callous to his suffering yet enjoy a perverse belittling his talent as a dancer and a musician and an entertainer and an ambassador of goodwill for American values abroad.

Because Caonservatives have nothing of reedeming value to offer, they seek to destroy a man who has brought joy and delight to people around the world while they plunged our nation into the American Dark Ages of Reagan/Bush.

Even Peter King (R) from NY couldn't help bashing Michael and using slander against him before he was even buried. When we see a second rate politican lambaste a world class artistic genius and then is celebrated by his party as a hero, we gain insight into the Republican Party's values. The rightness of choosing Obama is reaffirmed by the cruelty and callousness of Conservatives beating up on the dead. They even forget that Reagan enjoyed Michael Jackson, thought well of him and invited him to the WH as an honored guest.

Peter King may learn in 2010 that there is a price to pay for bully bashing a great entertainer who was loved by millions was very generous, had compassion for others, and gave America a good image abroad even as Republicans worked tirelessly to discredit our nation.

http://www.actblue.com/page/jacksonfansagainstking

Well,
if you sleep with little boys, whether you accost them sexually or not, what do you expect?

Talk about a whitewash.
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